Monday, October 11, 2010

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Today's topics:

* Favre and Jenn Sterger - 4 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/0e2390b504d040f8?hl=en
* Who is she? - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/c3e2111616fcf15d?hl=en
* Santonio Holmes... a genius? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/15ea2be4f29e2f36?hl=en
* Jenkins actually wants to come back... - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/3e973ce8f59e87e4?hl=en
* The change on Offense... from Cimini... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/5546f83d0beb1d29?hl=en
* Vikings' Defense - 6 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/b82259dba4dd3e14?hl=en
* Vikings vs. Jets - The Hyperbole Bowl - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/2ef6569b98f09ca6?hl=en
* Paladino defends comments, decries behavior at gay pride parade - 1 messages,
1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/ea1b1f05a7155428?hl=en
* Bronx Gang Beats and Tortures Gay Recruit, 2 Others, Cops Say - 1 messages,
1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/0311e7c0707be279?hl=en
* Prediction: Jets go 15-1 this season - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/19604fad8a44b644?hl=en
* Click And Get Instant $1000 To your Paypal . - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/c34f16f7041363a5?hl=en
* Growing trend or imagination ??? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/aacd678921a141a3?hl=en
* A Bad Hair Day For The Patriots - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/55a13873592a26ba?hl=en
* Favre will have a great game - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/08ad998f1c246907?hl=en

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TOPIC: Favre and Jenn Sterger
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/0e2390b504d040f8?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 10 2010 8:36 pm
From: Harlan Lachman


In article <i8sp1j$cjp$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
"Ray O'Hara" <raymond-ohara@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Harlan Lachman" <harlan@eeivt.com> wrote in message
> news:harlan-7DA844.16262309102010@news60.forteinc.com...
> > In article <i8q73o$gl5$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-ohara@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Ron" <ronzzz@yahoooooo.us> wrote in message
> >> news:i8oh3d$k95$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> >> > the bitch is a pig
> >> >
> >>
> >> if she had a pic of Brett's talleywhacker she'd be looking at a good
> >> payoff.
> >> if not she should have shut up.
> >> and the time to speak up was when it happened.
> >
> > Ray, the thing about harrassment is the power aspect of it. Attacking
> > the #1 Qb of the Jets might well end up costing a massage person or a
> > cheerleader her job, especially if there is any "reasonable doubt"
> > (e.g., a pic with no head shot -- at least not the head with a face).
> >
> > Or, either of these women may have let her supervisor know and it may
> > have been swept under the carpet.
> >
> > IOW, we don't have enough information to assert "the time to speak up
> > was when it happened..." The world, especially as regards sexual
> > harrassment, is not so black and white.
> >
> > h
>
>
> if she had pictures of his wernie then she litterally had him by the balls.

Unless it is just a head shot :-)

Then the question of authenticity of the sender cumz into question.

h


== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 11 2010 5:44 am
From: John C TX


On Oct 9, 5:13 pm, "papa.carl44" <papadotc...@nospamverizon.net>
wrote:
> "Harlan Lachman" <har...@eeivt.com> wrote in message
>
> news:harlan-7DA844.16262309102010@news60.forteinc.com...
>
>
>
> > In article <i8q73o$gl...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> "Ron" <ron...@yahoooooo.us> wrote in message
> >>news:i8oh3d$k95$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> >> > the bitch is a pig
>
> >>  if she had a pic of Brett's talleywhacker she'd be looking at a good
> >> payoff.
> >> if not she should have shut up.
> >> and the time to speak up was when it happened.
>
> > Ray, the thing about harrassment is the power aspect of it. Attacking
> > the #1 Qb of the Jets might well end up costing a massage person or a
> > cheerleader her job, especially if there is any "reasonable doubt"
> > (e.g., a pic with no head shot -- at least not the head with a face).
>
> > Or, either of these women may have let her supervisor know and it may
> > have been swept under the carpet.
>
> > IOW, we don't have enough information to assert "the time to speak up
> > was when it happened..." The world, especially as regards sexual
> > harrassment, is not so black and white.
>
> > h
>
> No...I think it's black and white...if Brett were black this would have been
> a huge story.  OMHO, PC

A huge story? Who are you Lily Von Shtupp?

:)


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 11 2010 6:03 am
From: IYM <"S U N risr"@optonline.net>


John C TX wrote:
> On Oct 9, 5:13 pm, "papa.carl44" <papadotc...@nospamverizon.net>
> wrote:
>> "Harlan Lachman" <har...@eeivt.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:harlan-7DA844.16262309102010@news60.forteinc.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>> In article <i8q73o$gl...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>> "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> "Ron" <ron...@yahoooooo.us> wrote in message
>>>> news:i8oh3d$k95$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> the bitch is a pig
>>>> if she had a pic of Brett's talleywhacker she'd be looking at a good
>>>> payoff.
>>>> if not she should have shut up.
>>>> and the time to speak up was when it happened.
>>> Ray, the thing about harrassment is the power aspect of it. Attacking
>>> the #1 Qb of the Jets might well end up costing a massage person or a
>>> cheerleader her job, especially if there is any "reasonable doubt"
>>> (e.g., a pic with no head shot -- at least not the head with a face).
>>> Or, either of these women may have let her supervisor know and it may
>>> have been swept under the carpet.
>>> IOW, we don't have enough information to assert "the time to speak up
>>> was when it happened..." The world, especially as regards sexual
>>> harrassment, is not so black and white.
>>> h
>> No...I think it's black and white...if Brett were black this would have been
>> a huge story. OMHO, PC
>
> A huge story? Who are you Lily Von Shtupp?
>
> :)

dey're oh-ways, coming and go-wing and go-wing and coming....and ah-ways
tooo soooon....

I'm tiyardddd....so tiyarddd of be-innng admi-yaaard...


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 11 2010 7:36 am
From: "Ron"


"admi-yaaard"

LOL

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TOPIC: Who is she?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/c3e2111616fcf15d?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 11 2010 12:43 am
From: nosrah


Lady Aisha (may Allah be pleased with her) is what this humanity
possesses of bright mind, sharp wit, and abundant knowledge.
Additionally, for her effective role in serving the Islamic thought
through relating Prophet Muhammad's (PBUH) Hadiths (narrations);
interpreting a lot of the aspects of the Prophet's (PBUH) life and her
juristic deductions.
She is also a woman who exceeded the boundaries of her role as a woman
to become a teacher for a whole nation that is the Islamic nation.

May Allah be Pleased with her was one of the skilful people in Qur'an,
Hadith and Islamic Jurisprudence, thus Urwah- bin al- Zubair said:'' I
have never seen someone who knows more of the Qur'an and its
commandments, nor al-Hallal (lawfulness), or Haram( sinful deeds), or
poetry, or Arabs oratory or backgrounds than Aisha.''

In this researchable point I have raised three domains in which lady
Aisha (may Allah be Pleased with her) has been distinguished in, and
they are:

1-Her knowledge and teachings.

2-The oratorical interpreter lady.

3-The lady faqiha (Islamic jurist).

I have chosen these domains for their importance and obvious influence
on the Islamic community and thought, Lady Aisha (may Allah be Pleased
with her) with her knowledge and her knowingness contributed in
amending the concepts, and the orientation to follow the Messenger of
Allah's Sunnah (Prophet's tradition), that's why the intellectuals
used to go to her to grasp from her abundant knowledge ,thereby she
became an illuminative source (lamp) that sheds its light on the
people of science and its students .......


http://www.rasoulall...lang=en&doc=249

/source : http://www.rasoulallah.net


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 11 2010 6:17 am
From: Jottland


On Oct 11, 3:43 am, nosrah <nosra...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Lady Aisha (may Allah be pleased with her) is what this humanity
> possesses of bright mind, sharp wit, and abundant knowledge.
> Additionally, for her effective role in serving the Islamic thought
> through relating Prophet Muhammad's (PBUH) Hadiths (narrations);
> interpreting a lot of the aspects of the Prophet's (PBUH) life and her
> juristic deductions.
> She is also a woman who exceeded the boundaries of her role as a woman
> to become a teacher for a whole nation that is the Islamic nation.
>
> May Allah be Pleased with her was one of the skilful people in Qur'an,
> Hadith and Islamic Jurisprudence, thus Urwah- bin al- Zubair said:'' I
> have never seen someone who knows more of the Qur'an and its
> commandments, nor al-Hallal (lawfulness), or Haram( sinful deeds), or
> poetry, or Arabs oratory or backgrounds than Aisha.''
>
> In this researchable point I have raised three domains in which lady
> Aisha (may Allah be Pleased with her) has been distinguished in, and
> they are:
>
> 1-Her knowledge and teachings.
>
> 2-The oratorical interpreter lady.
>
> 3-The lady faqiha (Islamic jurist).
>
> I have chosen these domains for their importance and obvious influence
> on the Islamic community and thought, Lady Aisha (may Allah be Pleased
> with her) with her knowledge and her knowingness contributed in
> amending the concepts, and the orientation to follow the Messenger of
> Allah's Sunnah (Prophet's tradition), that's why the intellectuals
> used to go to her to grasp from her abundant knowledge ,thereby she
> became an illuminative source (lamp) that sheds its light on the
> people of science and its students .......
>
> http://www.rasoulall...lang=en&doc=249
>
> /source :http://www.rasoulallah.net

Did Favre send her a picture too?

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TOPIC: Santonio Holmes... a genius?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/15ea2be4f29e2f36?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 11 2010 5:37 am
From: John C TX


On Oct 8, 3:00 pm, MZ <m...@nospam.void> wrote:
> On 10/7/2010 2:39 PM, Ian wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 7, 4:53 pm, MZ<m...@nospam.void>  wrote:
> >> On 10/7/2010 11:48 AM, buRford wrote:
>
> >>> Ya always hope a guy *gets it,* after making dumb *mistakes.
> >>> Seems like we may be in for some more dumb *mistakes,* with Holmes.
> >>> Even a cat/dog learns from mistakes... at least Braylon says he's learned  ;)
>
> >>> Oct 07, 2010
> >>> Did suspension change Jets' Santonio Holmes? 'Not 1%'
> >>> 10:44 AM
>
> >>> New York Jets WR Santonio Holmes returned to practice on Wednesday for the first time
> >>> since the preseason after completing his four-game suspension for violating terms of the
> >>> NFL's substance-abuse policy.
>
> >>> But Holmes said he did little-to-no introspection and doesn't feel like he owes any
> >>> apologies as he returns to game action on Sunday. The MVP of Super Bowl XLIII, cast away
> >>> by the Steelers in a trade to the Jets for a fifth-round pick, said personal change is not
> >>> something he accomplished during his suspension.
>
> >>> "To look in your eyes and be honest with you, not 1%," Holmes said, via ESPN. "I've been
> >>> the same person since I stepped foot in this NFL, I'll (continue) being the same person
> >>> until I leave."
>
> >>> Holmes followed up his Super Bowl-winning catch with his best season last year. He caught
> >>> 79 passes for 1,248 yards and five TDs.
>
> >>> He was suspended in April, and had a rocky offseason. He was accused of assault by woman
> >>> in Florida who claimed Holmes threw a drink in her face, though Holmes denied the
> >>> accusation. Police questioned him shortly after his April trade to the Jets after a flight
> >>> attendant complained that Holmes was being uncooperative on a flight. No charges were
> >>> filed after police learned Holmes kept the ear buds from his iPod in his ear but did not
> >>> violate flight instructions by leaving the iPod on.
>
> >>> Holmes said he has nothing to apologize for and didn't need the suspension to teach him to
> >>> change his ways.
>
> >>> "I made it to the Super Bowl and won it, didn't I?" Holmes said, via ESPN. "That's all I
> >>> had to do with myself. I didn't have anything to think about. I'm a football player, what
> >>> happens off the field happens off the field, doesn't affect anything I do or what I'm
> >>> capable of doing."
>
> >>> -- Sean Leahy
>
> >> Maybe he doesn't have anything to apologize for?  How certain are we
> >> that the woman's allegations are true?  He still denies them, doesn't
> >> he?  Have we ever gotten the opportunity to hear his side of the story?
>
> > This is Holmes, not Roethlisburger.
>
> I thought his infraction was the night club incident (throwing something
> at a woman?).

There was a nightclub incident where a woman claimed that Holmes threw
a drink glass at her. It was mentioned & then went away.

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TOPIC: Jenkins actually wants to come back...
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/3e973ce8f59e87e4?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 11 2010 5:52 am
From: John C TX


On Oct 8, 5:03 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Oct 2010 12:46:35 -0700 (PDT), John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Oct 8, 2:13 pm, MZ <m...@nospam.void> wrote:
> >> On 10/8/2010 8:43 AM, CaptMyng wrote:
>
> >> > On Oct 7, 10:25 pm, buRford<buRf...@buR.ford.com>  wrote:
> >> >> More power to him... love the guy&  wish him one full year on the field.
> >> >> He actually didn't use a knee brace, no wonder he reinjured it so quickly.
> >> >> Amazing how the ego dumbs down, an intelligent guy like Jenkins... like all of us ;)
>
> >> >> October 7, 2010, 9:55 pm
> >> >> Jets' Jenkins Will Try to Return From Third A.C.L. Tear
> >> >> By GREG BISHOP
>
> >> >> FLORHAM PARK, N.J. --  I've been meeting once a week with Kris Jenkins since he tore his
> >> >> anterior cruciate ligament for a third time, against Baltimore in Week 1. On Thursday,
> >> >> inside an interview room at the Jets' facility, Jenkins ate chicken wings and smiled, as
> >> >> he announced, "I've made a decision. I'm coming back. I have to. You know why? It's my
> >> >> choice. I choose to. I don't need any more money. I don't need anyone's approval. I still
> >> >> want to leave my mark."
>
> >> >> Jenkins underwent his fourth major surgery last week. It marked the third time he had an
> >> >> anterior cruciate ligament repaired, and the second time in 11 months he had his left
> >> >> A.C.L. repaired.
>
> >> >> But in the latest operation, a couple of things lifted Jenkins's spirits. The first was
> >> >> that doctors discovered less meniscus damage than they originally expected. The second was
> >> >> that instead of using a part of his hamstring, like in previous surgeries, they used the
> >> >> patella tendon in his left knee.
>
> >> >> On Thursday, Jenkins said the knee felt stronger at this point than last time. He also
> >> >> said that he will wear a brace this time, which strangely - because of stubbornness, he
> >> >> said - he refused to do after last season's knee injury.
>
> >> >> Jenkins seemed energized by the prospect of returning, although he acknowledged that he
> >> >> expected plenty of doubts.
>
> >> >> The question of where he would play next season remains uncertain. His salary cap number
> >> >> for the Jets (about $4.9 million) could be prohibitive, but he also could restructure his
> >> >> deal. If not, Jenkins said he would attempt a comeback elsewhere.
>
> >> >> "I'm in uncharted waters," he said. "But I'm at the point where I don't care what anybody
> >> >> thinks."
>
> >> > Jenks is a great guy but...
> >> > He's done, he can't stay healthy and the Jet's need to look at
> >> > replacing him.
>
> >> At his price tag, yeah.  We'll see how serious he is about coming back
> >> if he accepts a major pay cut.
>
> >or take an incentive laden contract....
>
> If he wants to stay here, that's what'll be done... lots of incentives if he stays on the
> field... and a million or two guaranteed, for his trouble.
> I'm surprised the Jets didn't insist on a knee brace.  That really seems bizarre to me.

b, funny you should post this. Today an orthopod was on sports radio.
He was saying that there is quite a bit of evidence saying the knee
brace doesn't make a difference. He was saying it was solid research
but he has seen many cases of anecdotal evidence that it helps with
lineman.

I gave up taping & using braces on my ankles years ago when my doc
said it wouldn't help.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 11 2010 3:25 pm
From: Johnny Morongo


On Oct 11, 5:52 am, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 8, 5:03 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Fri, 8 Oct 2010 12:46:35 -0700 (PDT), John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >On Oct 8, 2:13 pm, MZ <m...@nospam.void> wrote:
> > >> On 10/8/2010 8:43 AM, CaptMyng wrote:
>
> > >> > On Oct 7, 10:25 pm, buRford<buRf...@buR.ford.com>  wrote:
> > >> >> More power to him... love the guy&  wish him one full year on the field.
> > >> >> He actually didn't use a knee brace, no wonder he reinjured it so quickly.
> > >> >> Amazing how the ego dumbs down, an intelligent guy like Jenkins... like all of us ;)
>
> > >> >> October 7, 2010, 9:55 pm
> > >> >> Jets' Jenkins Will Try to Return From Third A.C.L. Tear
> > >> >> By GREG BISHOP
>
> > >> >> FLORHAM PARK, N.J. --  I've been meeting once a week with Kris Jenkins since he tore his
> > >> >> anterior cruciate ligament for a third time, against Baltimore in Week 1. On Thursday,
> > >> >> inside an interview room at the Jets' facility, Jenkins ate chicken wings and smiled, as
> > >> >> he announced, "I've made a decision. I'm coming back. I have to. You know why? It's my
> > >> >> choice. I choose to. I don't need any more money. I don't need anyone's approval. I still
> > >> >> want to leave my mark."
>
> > >> >> Jenkins underwent his fourth major surgery last week. It marked the third time he had an
> > >> >> anterior cruciate ligament repaired, and the second time in 11 months he had his left
> > >> >> A.C.L. repaired.
>
> > >> >> But in the latest operation, a couple of things lifted Jenkins's spirits. The first was
> > >> >> that doctors discovered less meniscus damage than they originally expected. The second was
> > >> >> that instead of using a part of his hamstring, like in previous surgeries, they used the
> > >> >> patella tendon in his left knee.
>
> > >> >> On Thursday, Jenkins said the knee felt stronger at this point than last time. He also
> > >> >> said that he will wear a brace this time, which strangely - because of stubbornness, he
> > >> >> said - he refused to do after last season's knee injury.
>
> > >> >> Jenkins seemed energized by the prospect of returning, although he acknowledged that he
> > >> >> expected plenty of doubts.
>
> > >> >> The question of where he would play next season remains uncertain. His salary cap number
> > >> >> for the Jets (about $4.9 million) could be prohibitive, but he also could restructure his
> > >> >> deal. If not, Jenkins said he would attempt a comeback elsewhere.
>
> > >> >> "I'm in uncharted waters," he said. "But I'm at the point where I don't care what anybody
> > >> >> thinks."
>
> > >> > Jenks is a great guy but...
> > >> > He's done, he can't stay healthy and the Jet's need to look at
> > >> > replacing him.
>
> > >> At his price tag, yeah.  We'll see how serious he is about coming back
> > >> if he accepts a major pay cut.
>
> > >or take an incentive laden contract....
>
> > If he wants to stay here, that's what'll be done... lots of incentives if he stays on the
> > field... and a million or two guaranteed, for his trouble.
> > I'm surprised the Jets didn't insist on a knee brace.  That really seems bizarre to me.
>
> b, funny you should post this. Today an orthopod was on sports radio.
> He was saying that there is quite a bit of evidence saying the knee
> brace doesn't make a difference. He was saying it was solid research
> but he has seen many cases of anecdotal evidence that it helps with
> lineman.
>
> I gave up taping & using braces on my ankles years ago when my doc
> said it wouldn't help.

Well taping yer mouth shut would sure help us. ;)

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TOPIC: The change on Offense... from Cimini...
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/5546f83d0beb1d29?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 11 2010 6:36 am
From: Tutor


On Oct 9, 7:53 pm, Antonio Varblespunk <a...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <cmo1b610vus1g150mjek46q04pm0343...@4ax.com>
>
> buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>
> "We don't have to trick anybody," one player said. "We're good enough to just line up and
> beat you."
>
> That's the Jets for ya. Always with the bulletin board material.

If that's bulltein board material, then you are way too sensitive a
person to be rooting for any NFL team. Shouldn't all teams feel this
way and be proud to say so? Get over it, Antoinette.

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TOPIC: Vikings' Defense
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/b82259dba4dd3e14?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 11 2010 7:20 am
From: John C TX


In many ways they resemble the Ravens and statistically they are very
similar with few int's, fumbles & sacks. They had close loss to NO,
MIami, & beat the Lions.

I bet we see a lot of Greene running & LT catching the ball. How good
are their LBers?


== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 11 2010 9:42 am
From: Michael


On Oct 11, 10:20 am, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In many ways they resemble the Ravens and statistically they are very
> similar with few int's, fumbles & sacks.  They had close loss to NO,
> MIami, & beat the Lions.
>
> I bet we see a lot of Greene running & LT catching the ball.  How good
> are their LBers?

if the jets learned anything from their loss to the ravens, i expect
we'll see less of green running and LT catching and more of sanchez
throwing to edwards and santonio...

the jets offense is manned to pass the ball now... very much so...
that is not to say that they should forget about their running game...
only to keep in mind that in order to shread ANY defense including
ravens and vikes, the jets need to have ballance on offense at all
times. that means prove you can throw it all over the field. and
they can


== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 11 2010 11:41 am
From: John C TX


On Oct 11, 11:42 am, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Oct 11, 10:20 am, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In many ways they resemble the Ravens and statistically they are very
> > similar with few int's, fumbles & sacks.  They had close loss to NO,
> > MIami, & beat the Lions.
>
> > I bet we see a lot of Greene running & LT catching the ball.  How good
> > are their LBers?
>
> if the jets learned anything from their loss to the ravens, i expect
> we'll see less of green running and LT catching and more of sanchez
> throwing to edwards and santonio...
>
> the jets offense is manned to pass the ball now... very much so...
> that is not to say that they should forget about their running game...
> only to keep in mind that in order to shread ANY defense including
> ravens and vikes, the jets need to have ballance on offense at all
> times.  that means prove you can throw it all over the field.  and
> they can

I wasn't saying they won't throw it. I was referring to how I think
they will break up the duties.

LT is perfect to run against the 3-4 the way he picks his spots. I
think we will see a lot of Greene, & LT, inside. If they can make it
work it is perfect to set up the play action, short passes & screens
to LT. I wonder if we will see many 3 & 4 receiver sets?


== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 11 2010 12:11 pm
From: Michael


On Oct 11, 2:41 pm, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 11, 11:42 am, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 11, 10:20 am, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > In many ways they resemble the Ravens and statistically they are very
> > > similar with few int's, fumbles & sacks.  They had close loss to NO,
> > > MIami, & beat the Lions.
>
> > > I bet we see a lot of Greene running & LT catching the ball.  How good
> > > are their LBers?
>
> > if the jets learned anything from their loss to the ravens, i expect
> > we'll see less of green running and LT catching and more of sanchez
> > throwing to edwards and santonio...
>
> > the jets offense is manned to pass the ball now... very much so...
> > that is not to say that they should forget about their running game...
> > only to keep in mind that in order to shread ANY defense including
> > ravens and vikes, the jets need to have ballance on offense at all
> > times.  that means prove you can throw it all over the field.  and
> > they can
>
> I wasn't saying they won't throw it. I was referring to how I think
> they will break up the duties.

ahhh.. got ya... i just hope that they dont play it like they played
the ravens. i'd prefer to see a good ballance. not pass happy, but 50
% of the snaps going to the air. for right now it looks to me that
the better teams in the nfl have a ballanced offense and strong
defense. the jets, steelers and ravens are all working on being able
to run and pass well. the teams with passing only like GB & DEN come
complete with instructions written on their helmets "all we can do is
pass"

> LT is perfect to run against the 3-4 the way he picks his spots. I
> think we will see a lot of Greene, & LT, inside. If they can make it
> work it is perfect to set up the play action, short passes & screens
> to LT.  I wonder if we will see many 3 & 4 receiver sets?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

good question about the 3 and 4 wr sets. going back to a few recent
interviews with jet players that i heard on 1050 espn radio... oddly
enough, the hosts were asking the jet players if santonio coming back
could cause problems for the offense by dictating that they change
things in response. sort of strange thinking but i guess some
substance to it... a superbowl mvp joins the team but yet it could be
a negative if they go too far from home. such as regular use of 3
and 4 wr sets. im curious to see what the jets do with this too. my
feeling is that they wont change so much. they will run a lot of the
same stuff, but they will have a more capable wr duo with edwards and
santonio lining up wide... cotch being the guy that will play less of
a role. perhaps we will see cotch in the slot on 3r downs or 2'nd and
more than 6.


== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 11 2010 2:22 pm
From: John C TX


On Oct 11, 2:11 pm, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Oct 11, 2:41 pm, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 11, 11:42 am, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Oct 11, 10:20 am, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > In many ways they resemble the Ravens and statistically they are very
> > > > similar with few int's, fumbles & sacks.  They had close loss to NO,
> > > > MIami, & beat the Lions.
>
> > > > I bet we see a lot of Greene running & LT catching the ball.  How good
> > > > are their LBers?
>
> > > if the jets learned anything from their loss to the ravens, i expect
> > > we'll see less of green running and LT catching and more of sanchez
> > > throwing to edwards and santonio...
>
> > > the jets offense is manned to pass the ball now... very much so...
> > > that is not to say that they should forget about their running game...
> > > only to keep in mind that in order to shread ANY defense including
> > > ravens and vikes, the jets need to have ballance on offense at all
> > > times.  that means prove you can throw it all over the field.  and
> > > they can
>
> > I wasn't saying they won't throw it. I was referring to how I think
> > they will break up the duties.
>
> ahhh.. got ya... i just hope that they dont play it like they played
> the ravens. i'd prefer to see a good ballance.  not pass happy, but 50
> % of the snaps going to the air.  for right now it looks to me that
> the better teams in the nfl have a ballanced offense and strong
> defense.  the jets, steelers and ravens are all working on being able
> to run and pass well.  the teams with passing only like GB & DEN come
> complete with instructions written on their helmets "all we can do is
> pass"
>
> > LT is perfect to run against the 3-4 the way he picks his spots. I
> > think we will see a lot of Greene, & LT, inside. If they can make it
> > work it is perfect to set up the play action, short passes & screens
> > to LT.  I wonder if we will see many 3 & 4 receiver sets?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> good question about the 3 and 4 wr sets.   going back to a few recent
> interviews with jet players that i heard on 1050 espn radio... oddly
> enough, the hosts were asking the jet players if santonio coming back
> could cause problems for the offense by dictating that they change
> things in response.  sort of strange thinking but i guess some
> substance to it... a superbowl mvp joins the team but yet it could be
> a negative if they go too far from home.  such as  regular use of 3
> and 4 wr sets.  im curious to see what the jets do with this too.  my
> feeling is that they wont change so much.  they will run a lot of the
> same stuff, but they will have a more capable wr duo with edwards and
> santonio lining up wide... cotch being the guy that will play less of
> a role. perhaps we will see cotch in the slot on 3r downs or 2'nd and
> more than 6.

Schott said Holmes would be grouped with different players. I would
like to see Edwards & Holmes wide with Cotchery in the slot along with
Keller who could line up as a traditional TE, go in motion, go to the
slot with LT in the backfield.

You could run. LT can pick up the blitz and you have 4 good
receivers.


== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 11 2010 2:27 pm
From: John C TX


On Oct 11, 4:22 pm, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 11, 2:11 pm, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 11, 2:41 pm, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Oct 11, 11:42 am, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > > On Oct 11, 10:20 am, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > In many ways they resemble the Ravens and statistically they are very
> > > > > similar with few int's, fumbles & sacks.  They had close loss to NO,
> > > > > MIami, & beat the Lions.
>
> > > > > I bet we see a lot of Greene running & LT catching the ball.  How good
> > > > > are their LBers?
>
> > > > if the jets learned anything from their loss to the ravens, i expect
> > > > we'll see less of green running and LT catching and more of sanchez
> > > > throwing to edwards and santonio...
>
> > > > the jets offense is manned to pass the ball now... very much so...
> > > > that is not to say that they should forget about their running game...
> > > > only to keep in mind that in order to shread ANY defense including
> > > > ravens and vikes, the jets need to have ballance on offense at all
> > > > times.  that means prove you can throw it all over the field.  and
> > > > they can
>
> > > I wasn't saying they won't throw it. I was referring to how I think
> > > they will break up the duties.
>
> > ahhh.. got ya... i just hope that they dont play it like they played
> > the ravens. i'd prefer to see a good ballance.  not pass happy, but 50
> > % of the snaps going to the air.  for right now it looks to me that
> > the better teams in the nfl have a ballanced offense and strong
> > defense.  the jets, steelers and ravens are all working on being able
> > to run and pass well.  the teams with passing only like GB & DEN come
> > complete with instructions written on their helmets "all we can do is
> > pass"
>
> > > LT is perfect to run against the 3-4 the way he picks his spots. I
> > > think we will see a lot of Greene, & LT, inside. If they can make it
> > > work it is perfect to set up the play action, short passes & screens
> > > to LT.  I wonder if we will see many 3 & 4 receiver sets?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > good question about the 3 and 4 wr sets.   going back to a few recent
> > interviews with jet players that i heard on 1050 espn radio... oddly
> > enough, the hosts were asking the jet players if santonio coming back
> > could cause problems for the offense by dictating that they change
> > things in response.  sort of strange thinking but i guess some
> > substance to it... a superbowl mvp joins the team but yet it could be
> > a negative if they go too far from home.  such as  regular use of 3
> > and 4 wr sets.  im curious to see what the jets do with this too.  my
> > feeling is that they wont change so much.  they will run a lot of the
> > same stuff, but they will have a more capable wr duo with edwards and
> > santonio lining up wide... cotch being the guy that will play less of
> > a role. perhaps we will see cotch in the slot on 3r downs or 2'nd and
> > more than 6.
>
> Schott said Holmes would be grouped with different players. I would
> like to see Edwards & Holmes wide with Cotchery in the slot along with
> Keller who could line up as a traditional TE, go in motion, go to the
> slot with LT in the backfield.
>
> You could run.  LT can pick up the blitz and you have 4 good
> receivers.

btw if we get up 14 points & we can run the ball then I think you will
see that. Favre pressing only helps.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 11 2010 8:41 am
From: mv@rip.ax.lt


(Wall Street Journal) - It's too much for Minnesota to visit the
New York Jets right now. Please call the Vikings and tell them to
pack their purple carry-ons and drive back to the airport. Asking
the NFL's two most preposterously overdiscussed franchises to meet
on the second Monday in October feels like a wedge of German
chocolate cake for breakfast. It's the Hyperbole Bowl. Barring a
tie, one of these controversy magnets is going to win, the other
will lose, and no matter which side you're on, you're never going
to hear the end of it.

The visitor here is Minnesota, which stumbles into the New
Meadowlands Sanitarium dragging an unsightly record of 1-2. Founded
in 1961, the Vikings are one of football's hardest-luck clubs,
having reached four Super Bowls and never won. In recent years,
they have refashioned themselves as a state-of-the-art assisted-
living home, offering seniors the chance to prolong their golden
years through rigorous exercise. Well, at least one senior: Brett
Favre, the craggy, perpetually retiring quarterback who turned 41
on Sunday amid his final (or so he says) Ahab voyage for a second
Vince Lombardi silver.

Mr. Favre is the beet-and-goat-cheese salad of sports: Despite how
many fans claim they're utterly sick of him, they never truly get
enough. He sells the jerseys, packs the house, thrills the
networks. He's the bodily manifestation of the Berra-ism, "Nobody
goes there anymore, it's too crowded." Mr. Favre is hopelessly
contradictory (he's staying, he's going), objectively fun to watch
(would you rather see Jimmy Clausen chuck it around?), and last
year he marched Minnesota within an interception of a Super Bowl,
which is why the Vikings once again shamed themselves and chartered
south to beg his services...

Continued: http://sn.im/VikingsJets


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 11 2010 9:17 am
From: Queers Are Self Made


http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/10/11/new.york.paladino.gays/?hpt=T2

New York (CNN) -- A day after saying homosexuality is not "an equally
valid or successful option," New York gubernatorial candidate Carl
Paladino denied being anti-gay Monday but said it was "disgusting" that
his opponent took his children to a gay pride parade.

"Young children should not be exposed to that at a young age," Paladino
told NBC's "Today." "They don't understand that. It's a very difficult
thing, exposing them to homosexuality, especially at a gay pride parade.

"I don't know if you've ever been to one but they wear these little
Speedos and they grind against each other and it's just a terrible
thing," Paladino said.

Paladino drew fire for a remark he made to an Orthodox Jewish group on
Sunday, in which he said he doesn't want children "to be brainwashed
into thinking that homosexuality is an equally valid or successful
option (compared to heterosexuality) ... it isn't."

Andrew Cuomo, New York attorney general and Paladino's Democratic
opponent, criticized his remarks Sunday, as did an advocate for gay and
lesbians and an organization for gay and lesbian Republicans.

Paladino defended that remark on Monday, telling both "Today" and ABC's
"Good Morning America" that he was referring to the difficult path
homosexuals face because of discrimination.

"It's a very, very ugly experience for those who are discriminated
against," he told "Today," adding that he has a nephew who is homosexual
and also has homosexuals working for him. "It's terrible, and it
shouldn't be. Society should be more accepting of it."

"When I talk about issues such as this, I talk from my heart," he told
NBC, "and I expect that the press will properly interpret my remarks. If
they don't interpret my remarks correctly ... that's wrong."

"My nephew is a wonderful boy and he's gay," he told "Good Morning
America." "I see the difficulty he suffers with every day with
discriminatory people."

Paladino's nephew, Jeffrey Hannon, a member of his campaign staff,
declined comment when contacted by CNN early Monday.

Paladino told "Good Morning America" that he and his wife stumbled on a
gay pride parade a few years ago in Toronto, Canada.

"It wasn't pretty," he said. "It was a bunch of very extreme-type people
in bikini-type outfits grinding at each other and doing these gyrations,
and I certainly wouldn't let my young children see that."

Asked whether he believes being homosexuality is a choice, Paladino
said, "I've had difficulty with that. My nephew tells me he didn't have
that choice, and I believe it's a very, very difficult life for a young
person. I believe that young people should not necessarily be exposed to
that without some really, really mature background first so they can
learn to deal with it. It's a very difficult thing, and I sensitize with
it totally."

He said his Sunday remarks were taken out of context. A prepared version
of his remarks, obtained by CNN from New York affiliate NY1, contained
two lines that Paladino did not deliver. Those lines said, "There is
nothing to be proud of in being a dysfunctional homosexual. That is not
how God created us."

Paladino emphasized in a statement on Sunday night that he did not
include those lines when he delivered his remarks, and he told both
programs on Monday he had crossed it out from his prepared remarks. "I
wouldn't say that," he said.

It was unclear, however, how the lines got into his prepared statements.
Paladino at first suggested to "Today" that the lines were written by
members of the Jewish group he was speaking to, although he later said
he wasn't sure whether it originated with a group member or one of his
staff. He told "Good Morning America" he had dictated in general terms
his remarks to a staffer who put the lines in his remarks.

"I refused to say it," he said, adding that does not represent his
feelings regarding homosexuality.

In the Sunday statement, Paladino said, "Apparently a few reporters
relied upon suggested remarks distributed by my hosts at the synagogue
in Williamsburg after my departure, not the actual statement I made."

The written remarks given to reporters were identical to Paladino's
spoken comments other than the two sentences in question.

Paladino on Monday denied being homophobic. "My feelings on
homosexuality are unequivocal," he told "Today." "I have absolutely no
problem with it whatsoever. My only reservation is marriage. That's the
only reservation I have."

He told NBC he would recruit homosexuals to serve in key roles in his
government if he is elected.

Paladino's remarks came a day after New York police announced the arrest
of an eighth suspect in a series of brutal, anti-gay hate crimes against
four men.

The incident last weekend involved three victims being held against
their will by as many as nine assailants who beat them in a vacant
apartment and sodomized two of them, police said. A fourth victim was
beaten and robbed in connection with the attacks.

"Don't misquote me as wanting to hurt homosexual people in any way,"
Paladino said Sunday. "That would be a dastardly lie -- my approach is
live and let live."

"I just think my children and your children would be much better off and
much more successful getting married and raising a family," he said.

Asked on Monday whether the timing of his remark was poor, given the
incident, Paladino said no. "I think my comments were directed at just
the confusion that people have had over this issue," he said.

Paladino also criticized Cuomo for marching in New York's gay pride
parade in June.

"That's not the example that we should be showing the children and
certainly not in our schools," he said.

Cuomo spokesman Josh Vlasto responded to Paladino's comments Sunday.

"Mr. Paladino's statement displays a stunning homophobia and a glaring
disregard for basic equality," Vlasto said in a statement. "These
comments along with other views he has espoused make it clear that he is
way out of the mainstream and is unfit to represent New York."

Gay rights groups also criticized Paladino's remarks.

"Carl Paladino's comments would matter if they were coming from a
serious political figure. However, they are not," said Christopher
Barron, chairman of the gay conservative group GOProud, in an email to
CNN. "They are instead coming from the imploding campaign of a man with
the personal baggage of John Edwards and all the electability of Alan
Keyes."

The Log Cabin Republicans of New York State also took issue with the
candidate.

"Carl Paladino's statements are unfortunate and show he lacks an
understanding of what it means to be gay," said Gregory T. Angelo,
chairman of the group. "I think gay men and women -- my neighbors and
your neighbors -- would be much better off and much more successful if
they were allowed equal rights and the option of getting married and
raising a family. I don't want New Yorkers to be brainwashed into
thinking that ignorance is an equally valid and successful option. It
isn't."

But Paladino's campaign manager, Michael Caputo, stood by the
gubernatorial candidate's comments on homosexuality.

"Carl Paladino's position on this is exactly equivalent to the Catholic
Church," Caputo told CNN. "And if Andrew Cuomo has a problem with the
Catholic Church's position on abortion and homosexuality, he needs to
take it up with his parish priest."

Paladino was seen on cell phone video by CNN affiliate YNN Albany last
month seemingly threatening New York Post statehouse columnist Fred
Dicker, after he was pressed to back up allegations he'd made that Cuomo
had been unfaithful in his marriage.

"You send another goon to my daughter's house and I'll take you out,
buddy," Paladino said, apparently referring to the Post's coverage of a
daughter the candidate had out of wedlock.

Dicker shot back: "You gonna take me out?"

"Yeah."

"How you gonna do that?"

"Watch," Paladino said before walking off.

Paladino's campaign issued a statement the next day claiming that the
Post sent a photographer to the Buffalo-area house where Paladino's
10-year-old daughter lives.

On October 5, a statement on the candidate's website about his ideas for
economic reform in the state said, "I'm a builder, not a career
politician. I may not always say things in the most delicate or
diplomatic way, but I will always tell you the truth and the truth is
New York State is in a death spiral."

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 11 2010 9:17 am
From: Queers Are Self Made


http://abcnews.go.com/US/bronx-gang-members-beat-tortured-gay-
recruit/story?id=11844460

Eight members of a Bronx gang who allegedly beat and tortured a new
recruit they thought was gay and two other men in separate attacks early
this week have been arrested on numerous charges, including hate crimes,
police said.

The alleged attacks came amid heightened attention nationwide to anti-gay
bullying after a string of suicides last month were attributed to
harassment they had suffered.

The members of the gang, the Latin King Goonies, are being held on charges
of burglary, robbery, assault, menacing, unlawful imprisonment and
criminal sex acts, which are being added as a hate crime, police said. One
other was also being sought in the incident.

New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said the first of the alleged
assaults occurred at about 3:30 a.m. Sunday.

In the first incident, gang members allegedly forced a 17-year-old
potential recruit for the street gang to an empty apartment in the Bronx
that they used for parties and sex, Kelly said.

"He was thrown into a wall, made to strip naked, hit in the head with a
beer can, cut with a box cutter and sodomized with the wooden handle of a
plunger," the commissioner said.

The alleged attackers, apparently angry he was gay, yelled anti-gay
insults and questioned him about his contact with a 30-year-old man,
according to police.

The teen was eventually released by the attackers and instructed not to
tell anyone, police said. He then walked to a hospital where he was
treated, but he reported that his injuries were from a robbery, according
to police.

The gang members then attacked another 17-year-old also thought to have
had a relationship with the 30-year-old and then the older man as well,
police said. They allegedly lured both to the same apartment with a story
that there was a party there.

The second teen was allegedly assaulted at about 8:30 p.m. on Sunday,
according to police.

When the 30-year-old arrived about an hour later, the nine gang members
allegedly stripped him to his underwear and tied him to a chair opposite
the other teen, who they forced to burn the man with cigarettes, police
said.

They allegedly beat the 30-year-old, forced him to drink 10 cans of the
malt beverage Four Loko that he had brought with him, and sodomized him
with a small baseball bat, according to police.

"These suspects employed terrible wolf-pack odds of nine-against-one, odds
which revealed them as predators whose crimes were as cowardly as they
were despicable," Kelly said.

"This was not part of an initiation," he added. "This was a reaction to
the fact that they had engaged in homosexual activity."


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 11 2010 10:00 am
From: "Bruno ~Sex Machine!~ Tiomboni"


Now it looks like the Jets are just beginning to hit their stride.
They are 3-1 (one point away from being 4-0) and this is without a
full-fledged roster. Wait till Revis and Edwards are back and the team
is full strength, they will be blowing away everybody, even the
Patriots! Look for this team to finish 15-1 and be, by far, Super Bowl
favorites this winter.

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== 1 of 1 ==
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 11 2010 12:31 pm
From: Michael


After watching some of the problems that GB, Colts, Saints have had
along with highlights of their games... I'm all but ready to stay that
the entire league spent the off season watching film of the Jets
defense. There has been a lot of "Rexesque" style of pass defense
applied against those teams. Until now, the only teams I have seen
using max blitz along with pressing cb's has been the jets. I've seen
a bunch of it now from other teams. I could be off the mark, but i
think the days of pass happy teams that cant run the ball are
numbered...

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 11 2010 12:53 pm
From: Michael


http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/39618036/ns/sports-nfl/

"Brady had problems with Moss' behavior as a Patriot. It said Brady
told Moss to cut his beard, and Moss told Brady to cut his hair."

lolz...

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 11 2010 3:22 pm
From: "Pete A"


Just heard on Sportscenter that Favre was very emotional in yesterdays team
meeting. I'm guessing he was half in the bag when he sent off those photos
and now he knows he's gonna have to pay the piper. Regardless, I'm sure his
teammates will rally around him and give a supreme effort. Bottom line is
that the Vikings will kick the fuck out of the Jets.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 11 2010 3:57 pm
From: "JKConey"

"Pete A" <PeteA3000@nettwentynine.com> wrote in message
news:i902p1$l5h$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> Just heard on Sportscenter that Favre was very emotional in yesterdays
> team meeting. I'm guessing he was half in the bag when he sent off those
> photos and now he knows he's gonna have to pay the piper. Regardless, I'm
> sure his teammates will rally around him and give a supreme effort.
> Bottom line is that the Vikings will kick the fuck out of the Jets.
>


Been a long time since they got beaten up. They may lose, but this
isn't the SOJ.


--

www.myconeyislandmemories.com

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