Wednesday, October 13, 2010

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* jets-vikes... a few thoughts... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/6e0b99b41deab4ad?hl=en
* Sanchez: the much better and the not so much better. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/3b9dd61b7e75f1f7?hl=en
* My Plead To All: Save Our Country: Vote Republican On November 2nd! - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/f34dc64df5a3b38d?hl=en
* Caprice Bourret Sex Tubes - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/5b48ed70f903ecbc?hl=en
* Live by the blitz, die by the blitz. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/51f4fcabbfab9030?hl=en

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TOPIC: jets-vikes... a few thoughts...
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/6e0b99b41deab4ad?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 12 2010 7:32 pm
From: Harlan Lachman


In article <Xns9E0FD0D08311Blowmejoemammanet@209.197.15.254>,
BicketyBam <Blowme@joemama.net> wrote:

> Harlan Lachman <harlan@eeivt.com> wrote in
> news:harlan-5AADC2.14190312102010@news60.forteinc.com:
>
> > In article
> > <e1c0e68f-f32a-4111-af26-72e3c2a8ca67@z28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
> > Michael <mjd1966@verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Oct 12, 10:53 am, Harlan Lachman <har...@eeivt.com> wrote:
> >> > In article
> >> > <b8c8f394-ad8f-4945-a0c6-bbd75b3f8...
> @j25g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
> >> >
> >> >  Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >> > > 1. too many dropped passes.  this game should not have been this
> >> > > hard.
> >> > > 2. great job by the entire o-line pass protecting including
> >> > > slauson who did impressive work. he's working with brick a lot
> >> > > better now. obviously callahan is doing a good job coaching them
> >> > > up. 3. revis may not be 100 % any time soon.
> >> > > 4. who was responsible for the play calling and clock management
> >> > > in the late 4th quarter ??? how in hell did they decide to call a
> >> > > pass and turn it over to the vikes before the stop for the two
> >> > > minute warning ??? that has to be one of the most inept things
> >> > > i've seen with clock management since herm edwards.
> >> >
> >> > Michael, I loved both passing calls on second down. The first one
> >> > got us a first down to Holmes.
> >>
> >> glenn.. i know schotty wants to be unpredictable, but i just dont
> >> see the passing calls on that drive as being the way to go under
> >> those circumstances.
> >>
> >> > I think the issue with the second was that Sanchez did not let the
> >> > play clock run until the last second before he threw wildly to
> >> > Holmes.
> >>
> >> that was a mistake too... he should know better...
> >>
> >> > The calls on second down were the right ones. We were trying to get
> >> > first downs. If we had made the second one, the Vikes might never
> >> > have gotten the ball back. You saw how they rushed on third down.
> >> > Second down was the time to throw.
> >>
> >> i would have ran it... i think that was the better choice... but...
> >> if they executed the pass, i guess it would have been "a good call"
> >> coulda been, but it wasnt.
> >
> > Michael, they did run it. They ran for negative yardage (average) on
> > the two first down calls. Running the ball would have just given the
> > ball back with less time (but not much and less yardage to make).
> >
> > I think those who run the ball, conceding the first down IMHO, are
> > playing not to lose. I like giving our team two chances to win.
> >
> > Harlan
> >
>
> I loved the pass calls, but as others pointed out, Sanchez snapped the
> ball to soon. I actually said to myself, "Call a pass here and snap it
> with 1 second on the play clock." My thinking was it was a chance to
> pass with no fear of an incompletion because the clock was going to stop
> for the 2 minute warning anyway. I nearly shit myself when he snapped it
> early and threw incomplete.
>
> But the call was the right one (just poorly executed). Parcells used to
> do this on a regular basis. Put the hammer down. Win the game right
> there. I have no problem with that.

Yup to both points!

h

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TOPIC: Sanchez: the much better and the not so much better.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/3b9dd61b7e75f1f7?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 12 2010 7:44 pm
From: Harlan Lachman


In article
<7905c727-ecb0-4d0c-868d-4404c7a8471e@t8g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
Grinch <oldnasty@mindspring.com> wrote:

> Sanchez, huge obvious improvement: 0 picks in 147 attempts. If he
> doesn't throw any over the rest of the year the Jetsies will be in
> contention for the big prize all the way. Heck, he doesn't even have
> to throw 0, just be among the half-dozen or so QBs who throw the
> fewest.
>
> Not so much improvement: Sanchez's completion percentage of 55% is
> 29th in the league, and his average yards per attempt of 6.1 is tied
> for 28th-30th, both about the same as last year.
>
> That's how one gets only 1 TD and 5 FGs in six scoring opportunities.
>
> (And anybody who says "It's Schott's fault!" had better say the 0.00%
> interception rate is Schott's fault too.)
>
> It looks like Rex and Schott have well-taught the kid football rule
> #1: Don't Beat Yourself.
> Now he has to learn #2: How To Beat The Other Guy
>
> But that's definite progress.
>
> FWIW, Footballoutsiders' take on Sanchez after last night's game:
> ~~~~
> http://www.footballoutsiders.com/quick-reads/2010/week-5-quick-reads
>
> Sanchez threw an interception every 18.2 attempts last season. That
> was always going to improve this year, but he's now gone 147 attempts
> without a single interception, which would be remarkable even if
> Sanchez was a particularly accurate quarterback.
>
> Not much else has changed -- he's completing 55.1 percent of his
> passes after hitting 53.8 percent of them a year ago, and his yards
> per attempt have gone from 6.7 a year ago to 6.1 this year. He's
> throwing touchdowns once every 18 attempts as opposed to once every
> 30. His sack rate's improved from 6.7 percent to 4.7 percent. He's a
> little better across the board, but the big change amounts to
> interception luck. While he got some bounces in his favor (as well as
> some drops from his teammates) on Monday night, the picks are coming.
> He won't throw 20 or anything, but they're on their way.

So if I am reading this correctly, while he is only completing 55.1% of
his passes, which is below average, he just about doubled his percent of
passes resulting in touchdowns from last year, reduced his sacks
percentage by almost a third, and eliminated turn overs in the first
five games (both picks and fumbles) after leading the league.

I must be missing something. Even Football Outsiders ranks him the 8th
Qb out of the 39 they rank in DYAR which they use to rank quarterbacks
according to their total value.

If he just doesn't regress we should be fine. If his receivers grow
hands and his accuracy improves a little, he could be dangerous.

Harlan

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TOPIC: My Plead To All: Save Our Country: Vote Republican On November 2nd!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/f34dc64df5a3b38d?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 12 2010 8:33 pm
From: "mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu"


On Oct 12, 11:04 am, "O'Neil's Faggy Prostrate - Save Our Country:
Vote Republican On November 2nd!" <accoun...@rocketmail.com> wrote:

>
> Take Our Country Back! Vote Republican On November 2nd!!!


NOOOO!! If we vote Republican then Mark Sanchez will NEVER be granted
US citizenship!!!!


We need Sanchez to get amnesty!!!

Vote Democrat!!!!

Free citizenship for our illegal QB!!!


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TOPIC: Caprice Bourret Sex Tubes
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Date: Tues, Oct 12 2010 10:16 pm
From: lata


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TOPIC: Live by the blitz, die by the blitz.
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Date: Tues, Oct 12 2010 11:46 pm
From: Hammer


On Oct 12, 5:47 pm, Grinch <oldna...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> But let's not commit suicide by it.
>
> Last night the Jets D was shutting out and totally dominating Minny
> well into the second half until trying two big blitzes on 3rd and long
> that blew up into one-play TDs, putting Minny right back into the game
> and what until then looked like a gimme win at risk.
>
> 3rd and 17: TD!  3rd and 19: TD!
>
> I love Rex's big blitzing schemes, he does it better than anybody I've
> ever seen, and it improved the quality of the D last season by the
> most I've ever seen a D improve in one year.
>
> But somebody tell him that it *is* permissible on 3rd and 17+ when the
> clock is on your side to occasionally play contain.
>
> (Especially when the alternative is leaving Moss in single coverage on
> a fly pattern.)

Agreed...


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