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Patel DG, Karbhari SS, Gulati OD, Gokhale SD.

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4. Marone G, et al, (1987), Inhibition of IgE-mediated release of histamine and peptide leukotriene from human basophiles and mast cells by forskolin, Biochem Pharmacol; 36(1):13-20.

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* ESPN Sources: Jones to become free agent - 13 messages, 6 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/0c7275a190c3d7d2?hl=en
* Potential Busts in 2010 First Round Draft - 5 messages, 3 authors
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* Leon Washington - 4 messages, 3 authors
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TOPIC: ESPN Sources: Jones to become free agent
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/0c7275a190c3d7d2?hl=en
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== 1 of 13 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 1 2010 10:34 am
From: "Remy McSwain"


In news:k-udnX1nC6nDchbWnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@giganews.com,
Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> mused:
> Remy McSwain wrote:
>> "Johnctx" <jc@spamtx.net> wrote in message
>> news:3e2dnexIgIrhQRbWnZ2dnUVZ_vE1AAAA@giganews.com...
>>> Johnny Morongo wrote:
>>>> Did anyone NOT see this coming?
>>>>
>>>> http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4952941
>>>>
>>>> Updated: February 27, 2010, 9:40 PM ET
>>>> By Adam Schefter
>>>> ESPN.com
>>>>
>>>> New York Jets running back Thomas Jones will not restructure
>>>> his contract and will be released this week, sources told
>>>> ESPN on Saturday.
>>>>
>>>> Jones, who will become a free agent on March 5, was slated to
>>>> receive a $3 million roster bonus March 9 and a $2.8 million
>>>> base salary in 2010.
>>>>
>>>> Jones, who has played the last three seasons for the Jets,
>>>> rushed for 1,402 yards and 14 touchdowns on 331 carries last
>>>> season. The Jets reached the AFC Championship game.
>>>>
>>>> Jones has 9,217 career rushing yards in 10 seasons with the
>>>> Jets, Arizona Cardinals, Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Chicago
>>>> Bears.
>>> NO NO NO, please don't do this. Woody you cheap bastard.
>>
>> Theoretically, there's no cap, but the reality is that most
>> teams are operating under the assumption that there will be a
>> cap, and so they don't want to put themselves in a position to
>> be strangled by what they do right now.
>>
>>
>
>
> That makes some sense but we have very few $ allocated toward RB
> as Leon is cheap as is Greene.

Whether the Jets are spending enough on RB isn't any indication of
whether or not they are being cheap. To come to that conclusion,
you'd have to look at total spending.


== 2 of 13 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 1 2010 10:39 am
From: "Remy McSwain"

"Johnctx" <jc@spamtx.net> wrote in message
news:ZrCdnSLWa8EnaRbWnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> Remy McSwain wrote:
>> "Demetrios" <hestiansun@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:71ce1348-e260-4e61-9c18-3719453b4f01@m37g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Feb 27, 10:29 pm, Johnny Morongo
>>> <j.mireh...@harmonicconcordance.com> wrote:
>>>> Did anyone NOT see this coming?
>>>>
>>>> http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4952941
>>>>
>>> Here's my question: does this allow us to sign a UFA to replace
>>> him, or are we only able to replace players who are signed away
>>> from us as UFAs, instead of being cut?
>>> Here's my question: does this allow us to sign a UFA to replace
>>> him, or are we only able to replace players who are signed away
>>> from us as UFAs, instead of being cut?
>>
>> Any team can sign any free agent they wish as long as the total
>> allowable number of players on the roster, or the salary cap, are
>> not exceeded.
>
> The top 4 teams can only replace UFA so the Jets, Saints, Vikings
> & Colts can't sign one until they lose one & only for the amount
> the previous player signed for & not more. Cutting a player
> doesn't help --
> I think. The top 8 or 5-8 are restricted as well.

I stand corrected. Forgot about the new uncapped season rules.

>>> These new nutcrunchers are very confusing.
>>>
>>> If it counts for these purposes, then this may be a move to
>>> allow us an opportunity to sign someone else, or get the space
>>> out to be able to be in the market for a decent UFA. This would
>>> allow us to sign someone for a bit over $6 mil for the first
>>> year, which may be enough to get whoever the Jets are targetting
>>> (although someone like Adalius Thomas, if that's the case, would
>>> I believe be freely available if he were cut).
>>>
>>> It figures this stupid dumb rule that they impose would screw
>>> the Jets as soon as it was out of the gate...
>>
>> I don't know what that means.
>
> see above
>>

== 3 of 13 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 1 2010 10:51 am
From: "Remy McSwain"

"Johnctx" <jc@spamtx.net> wrote in message
news:WdGdnQhtjMFibhbWnZ2dnUVZ_h2dnZ2d@giganews.com...
> Remy McSwain wrote:
>> "Johnctx" <jc@spamtx.net> wrote in message
>> news:CeadnfsPqfbTQxbWnZ2dnUVZ_v2dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>> Yes, it will, but not because of how contracts are structured.
>>>> It'll be nasty because of the perception that the owners are
>>>> making money hand over fist, and not giving the players their
>>>> fair share of it.
>>>
>>> They are making money had over fist.
>>>
>>>
>>> The TV money pays the operations of the club everything. Then
>>> take 10 games x 73,000 x $75.00 = $54.75 MM. Then add in
>>> suites, local sponsorship, parking concessions. Add onto that
>>> the fact pro sports & Hollywood have the greatest tax write offs
>>> (along with silicon valley) & you have a great return.
>>
>> IIRC, the players get at least 60% of the total, pre-tax, gross
>> revenues. As to the "write-offs" to which you refer, what are
>> those, and how do they differ from any other business?
>
> They can expense & then depreciate player's salaries.

All businesses expense salaries.

> They also have preferential treatment on depreciation on the
> purchase of the team.
>
> Here is an older article but it gives you a sense of some of teh
> BS:
>
> http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002911235_ownertaxes05m.html

I agree that there's BS there, but the way that the author keeps
bouncing back and forth among the various issues he raises, I just
wonder how much of it he's got right. Hell, most sports reporters
who follow the NFL have no idea that as long as a team is spending
consistently up to the cap, they can't possibly be accused of being
cheap..

But players take full advantage of whatever tax rules they can as
well.

>>
>> The real issue comes down to what should be included in gross
>> revenue. Should appreciation of the value of NFL franchises be
>> included? Should appreciation of facilities? Clearly, the
>> owners are making money. Clearly, it takes profits to entice
>> that kind of risk capital investment so that everyone can
>> benefit. So how much is too much for the owners, and how much is
>> too much for then players?
>>
>> It makes for an interesting debate.
>
> I am not saying the owner's don't deserve t make a profit. I am
> just saying they are.

I'm not sure that anyone has argued that they do not.


== 4 of 13 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 1 2010 12:09 pm
From: Johnctx


Remy McSwain wrote:
> In news:k-udnX1nC6nDchbWnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@giganews.com,
> Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> mused:
>> Remy McSwain wrote:
>>> "Johnctx" <jc@spamtx.net> wrote in message
>>> news:3e2dnexIgIrhQRbWnZ2dnUVZ_vE1AAAA@giganews.com...
>>>> Johnny Morongo wrote:
>>>>> Did anyone NOT see this coming?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4952941
>>>>>
>>>>> Updated: February 27, 2010, 9:40 PM ET
>>>>> By Adam Schefter
>>>>> ESPN.com
>>>>>
>>>>> New York Jets running back Thomas Jones will not restructure
>>>>> his contract and will be released this week, sources told
>>>>> ESPN on Saturday.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jones, who will become a free agent on March 5, was slated to
>>>>> receive a $3 million roster bonus March 9 and a $2.8 million
>>>>> base salary in 2010.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jones, who has played the last three seasons for the Jets,
>>>>> rushed for 1,402 yards and 14 touchdowns on 331 carries last
>>>>> season. The Jets reached the AFC Championship game.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jones has 9,217 career rushing yards in 10 seasons with the
>>>>> Jets, Arizona Cardinals, Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Chicago
>>>>> Bears.
>>>> NO NO NO, please don't do this. Woody you cheap bastard.
>>> Theoretically, there's no cap, but the reality is that most
>>> teams are operating under the assumption that there will be a
>>> cap, and so they don't want to put themselves in a position to
>>> be strangled by what they do right now.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> That makes some sense but we have very few $ allocated toward RB
>> as Leon is cheap as is Greene.
>
> Whether the Jets are spending enough on RB isn't any indication of
> whether or not they are being cheap. To come to that conclusion,
> you'd have to look at total spending.
>
>

You are the only one anticipating a capped year. When in the history of
union negotiations have things ever gotten done early?

OK, how about this I think the $3MM is a smart insurance policy. Jones
showed little slowdown this year. If, like happened to us in Mangini's
first year when we traded for Barlow & someone desperately needs a RB,
we can always trade him. If not it is no too much to spend to have
three good RB's. Jones has proven himself to be on of our only RB's
--haven't noticed Greeene's ability-- to pick up the blitz.

If they release him I am screaming cheap.


== 5 of 13 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 1 2010 12:23 pm
From: Johnctx


Remy McSwain wrote:
> "Johnctx" <jc@spamtx.net> wrote in message
> news:WdGdnQhtjMFibhbWnZ2dnUVZ_h2dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> Remy McSwain wrote:
>>> "Johnctx" <jc@spamtx.net> wrote in message
>>> news:CeadnfsPqfbTQxbWnZ2dnUVZ_v2dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>> Yes, it will, but not because of how contracts are structured.
>>>>> It'll be nasty because of the perception that the owners are
>>>>> making money hand over fist, and not giving the players their
>>>>> fair share of it.
>>>> They are making money had over fist.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The TV money pays the operations of the club everything. Then
>>>> take 10 games x 73,000 x $75.00 = $54.75 MM. Then add in
>>>> suites, local sponsorship, parking concessions. Add onto that
>>>> the fact pro sports & Hollywood have the greatest tax write offs
>>>> (along with silicon valley) & you have a great return.
>>> IIRC, the players get at least 60% of the total, pre-tax, gross
>>> revenues. As to the "write-offs" to which you refer, what are
>>> those, and how do they differ from any other business?
>> They can expense & then depreciate player's salaries.
>
> All businesses expense salaries.

I can't do both and that was the point.

>
>> They also have preferential treatment on depreciation on the
>> purchase of the team.
>>
>> Here is an older article but it gives you a sense of some of teh
>> BS:
>>
>> http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002911235_ownertaxes05m.html
>
> I agree that there's BS there, but the way that the author keeps
> bouncing back and forth among the various issues he raises, I just
> wonder how much of it he's got right. Hell, most sports reporters
> who follow the NFL have no idea that as long as a team is spending
> consistently up to the cap, they can't possibly be accused of being
> cheap..

The cap is not equal to cash.

Cheap is only when you cut players that would marginally decrease your
profitability and that player could have helped you. If we had crystall
balls we would own teams.

>
> But players take full advantage of whatever tax rules they can as
> well.
>
>>> The real issue comes down to what should be included in gross
>>> revenue. Should appreciation of the value of NFL franchises be
>>> included? Should appreciation of facilities? Clearly, the
>>> owners are making money. Clearly, it takes profits to entice
>>> that kind of risk capital investment so that everyone can
>>> benefit. So how much is too much for the owners, and how much is
>>> too much for then players?
>>>
>>> It makes for an interesting debate.
>> I am not saying the owner's don't deserve t make a profit. I am
>> just saying they are.
>
> I'm not sure that anyone has argued that they do not.
>

I think you started out by saying :

<<Yes, it will, but not because of how contracts are structured.
It'll be nasty because of the perception that the owners are making
money hand over fist, and not giving the players their fair share of
it. >>

The owner's are making money hand over fist. The owner's like
overpaying some rookies because it is cheaper than paying proven
veterans. Fans don't like to lose their stars so losing a Leon
Washington to FA is tougher than overpaying Gholston.


== 6 of 13 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 1 2010 12:45 pm
From: "Remy McSwain"

"Johnctx" <jc@spamtx.net> wrote in message
news:a7KdnaW-6Pd1gxHWnZ2dnUVZ_sydnZ2d@giganews.com...
> Remy McSwain wrote:
>> In news:k-udnX1nC6nDchbWnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@giganews.com,
>> Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> mused:
>>> Remy McSwain wrote:
>>>> "Johnctx" <jc@spamtx.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:3e2dnexIgIrhQRbWnZ2dnUVZ_vE1AAAA@giganews.com...
>>>>> Johnny Morongo wrote:
>>>>>> Did anyone NOT see this coming?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4952941
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Updated: February 27, 2010, 9:40 PM ET
>>>>>> By Adam Schefter
>>>>>> ESPN.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> New York Jets running back Thomas Jones will not restructure
>>>>>> his contract and will be released this week, sources told
>>>>>> ESPN on Saturday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jones, who will become a free agent on March 5, was slated to
>>>>>> receive a $3 million roster bonus March 9 and a $2.8 million
>>>>>> base salary in 2010.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jones, who has played the last three seasons for the Jets,
>>>>>> rushed for 1,402 yards and 14 touchdowns on 331 carries last
>>>>>> season. The Jets reached the AFC Championship game.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jones has 9,217 career rushing yards in 10 seasons with the
>>>>>> Jets, Arizona Cardinals, Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Chicago
>>>>>> Bears.
>>>>> NO NO NO, please don't do this. Woody you cheap bastard.
>>>> Theoretically, there's no cap, but the reality is that most
>>>> teams are operating under the assumption that there will be a
>>>> cap, and so they don't want to put themselves in a position to
>>>> be strangled by what they do right now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> That makes some sense but we have very few $ allocated toward RB
>>> as Leon is cheap as is Greene.
>>
>> Whether the Jets are spending enough on RB isn't any indication
>> of whether or not they are being cheap. To come to that
>> conclusion, you'd have to look at total spending.
>
> You are the only one anticipating a capped year. When in the
> history of union negotiations have things ever gotten done early?

I've given no predictions about whether or not next year will be
capped. I said that I think most teams are thinking that way.

> OK, how about this I think the $3MM is a smart insurance policy.
> Jones showed little slowdown this year. If, like happened to us
> in Mangini's first year when we traded for Barlow & someone
> desperately needs a RB, we can always trade him. If not it is no
> too much to spend to have three good RB's. Jones has proven
> himself to be on of our only RB's --haven't noticed Greeene's
> ability-- to pick up the blitz.
>
> If they release him I am screaming cheap.

IIRC, the $3MM is only the roster bonus. They'd also have to pay
his $2.8MM salary. If the Jets then pocket that money, no matter
what, then I'd agree, but I think it's more likely they think that
$5.8MM would be better spent elsewhere. Maybe they're right, and
maybe not, but that's different than being cheap. Let's wait and
see how much they spend compared to other teams before we go there.


== 7 of 13 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 1 2010 12:55 pm
From: "Remy McSwain"

"Johnctx" <jc@spamtx.net> wrote in message
news:P4KdnfRI3MqrvxHWnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d@giganews.com...
> Remy McSwain wrote:
>> "Johnctx" <jc@spamtx.net> wrote in message
>> news:WdGdnQhtjMFibhbWnZ2dnUVZ_h2dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>> Remy McSwain wrote:
>>>> "Johnctx" <jc@spamtx.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:CeadnfsPqfbTQxbWnZ2dnUVZ_v2dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>>> Yes, it will, but not because of how contracts are
>>>>>> structured. It'll be nasty because of the perception that the
>>>>>> owners are making money hand over fist, and not giving the
>>>>>> players their fair share of it.
>>>>> They are making money had over fist.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The TV money pays the operations of the club everything. Then
>>>>> take 10 games x 73,000 x $75.00 = $54.75 MM. Then add in
>>>>> suites, local sponsorship, parking concessions. Add onto that
>>>>> the fact pro sports & Hollywood have the greatest tax write
>>>>> offs (along with silicon valley) & you have a great return.
>>>> IIRC, the players get at least 60% of the total, pre-tax, gross
>>>> revenues. As to the "write-offs" to which you refer, what are
>>>> those, and how do they differ from any other business?
>>> They can expense & then depreciate player's salaries.
>>
>> All businesses expense salaries.
>
> I can't do both and that was the point.
>
>>
>>> They also have preferential treatment on depreciation on the
>>> purchase of the team.
>>>
>>> Here is an older article but it gives you a sense of some of teh
>>> BS:
>>>
>>> http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002911235_ownertaxes05m.html
>>
>> I agree that there's BS there, but the way that the author keeps
>> bouncing back and forth among the various issues he raises, I
>> just wonder how much of it he's got right. Hell, most sports
>> reporters who follow the NFL have no idea that as long as a team
>> is spending consistently up to the cap, they can't possibly be
>> accused of being cheap..
>
> The cap is not equal to cash.

Ultimately, it is. All money counted against the cap by any given
team in any given year is actually spent, and goes in the player's
pockets. It is true that some money counted against the cap in one
year was actually spent in a previous year, and that some money
spent in a year won't count against the cap until some future year,
but all of that money was, indeed, spent.

> Cheap is only when you cut players that would marginally decrease
> your profitability and that player could have helped you. If we
> had crystall balls we would own teams.

Cheap is when a team doesn't consistently spend up to the cap. When
they do consistently spend up to the cap, then they've spent as much
as they can, and any money saved by cutting one player goes into
another player's pocket.

>> But players take full advantage of whatever tax rules they can as
>> well.
>>
>>>> The real issue comes down to what should be included in gross
>>>> revenue. Should appreciation of the value of NFL franchises be
>>>> included? Should appreciation of facilities? Clearly, the
>>>> owners are making money. Clearly, it takes profits to entice
>>>> that kind of risk capital investment so that everyone can
>>>> benefit. So how much is too much for the owners, and how much
>>>> is too much for then players?
>>>>
>>>> It makes for an interesting debate.
>>> I am not saying the owner's don't deserve t make a profit. I
>>> am just saying they are.
>>
>> I'm not sure that anyone has argued that they do not.
>
> I think you started out by saying :
>
> <<Yes, it will, but not because of how contracts are structured.
> It'll be nasty because of the perception that the owners are
> making
> money hand over fist, and not giving the players their fair share
> of
> it. >>

Yes, that's right. I didn't mean to imply that their perception is
wrong. It might be right, and it might be wrong.

> The owner's are making money hand over fist. The owner's like
> overpaying some rookies because it is cheaper than paying proven
> veterans. Fans don't like to lose their stars so losing a Leon
> Washington to FA is tougher than overpaying Gholston.

Again, as long as the teams are spending virtually all of the cap
money, then how that breaks down between vets and rookies is
irrelevant. Of much more relevance is how much of the total gross
is being paid to the players.


== 8 of 13 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 1 2010 2:12 pm
From: Johnctx


Remy McSwain wrote:
> "Johnctx" <jc@spamtx.net> wrote in message
> news:a7KdnaW-6Pd1gxHWnZ2dnUVZ_sydnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> Remy McSwain wrote:
>>> In news:k-udnX1nC6nDchbWnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@giganews.com,
>>> Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> mused:
>>>> Remy McSwain wrote:
>>>>> "Johnctx" <jc@spamtx.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:3e2dnexIgIrhQRbWnZ2dnUVZ_vE1AAAA@giganews.com...
>>>>>> Johnny Morongo wrote:
>>>>>>> Did anyone NOT see this coming?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4952941
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Updated: February 27, 2010, 9:40 PM ET
>>>>>>> By Adam Schefter
>>>>>>> ESPN.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> New York Jets running back Thomas Jones will not restructure
>>>>>>> his contract and will be released this week, sources told
>>>>>>> ESPN on Saturday.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jones, who will become a free agent on March 5, was slated to
>>>>>>> receive a $3 million roster bonus March 9 and a $2.8 million
>>>>>>> base salary in 2010.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jones, who has played the last three seasons for the Jets,
>>>>>>> rushed for 1,402 yards and 14 touchdowns on 331 carries last
>>>>>>> season. The Jets reached the AFC Championship game.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jones has 9,217 career rushing yards in 10 seasons with the
>>>>>>> Jets, Arizona Cardinals, Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Chicago
>>>>>>> Bears.
>>>>>> NO NO NO, please don't do this. Woody you cheap bastard.
>>>>> Theoretically, there's no cap, but the reality is that most
>>>>> teams are operating under the assumption that there will be a
>>>>> cap, and so they don't want to put themselves in a position to
>>>>> be strangled by what they do right now.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> That makes some sense but we have very few $ allocated toward RB
>>>> as Leon is cheap as is Greene.
>>> Whether the Jets are spending enough on RB isn't any indication
>>> of whether or not they are being cheap. To come to that
>>> conclusion, you'd have to look at total spending.
>> You are the only one anticipating a capped year. When in the
>> history of union negotiations have things ever gotten done early?
>
> I've given no predictions about whether or not next year will be
> capped. I said that I think most teams are thinking that way.

I am saying they are not. Maybe they are taking advantage of the fact
there is no floor either. I don't think they are throwing caution to
the wind & betting the bank there is no cap. I think they are working
under the assumption there will be one again.

Jones doesn't affect the future.

>
>> OK, how about this I think the $3MM is a smart insurance policy.
>> Jones showed little slowdown this year. If, like happened to us
>> in Mangini's first year when we traded for Barlow & someone
>> desperately needs a RB, we can always trade him. If not it is no
>> too much to spend to have three good RB's. Jones has proven
>> himself to be on of our only RB's --haven't noticed Greeene's
>> ability-- to pick up the blitz.
>>
>> If they release him I am screaming cheap.
>
> IIRC, the $3MM is only the roster bonus. They'd also have to pay
> his $2.8MM salary. If the Jets then pocket that money, no matter
> what, then I'd agree, but I think it's more likely they think that
> $5.8MM would be better spent elsewhere. Maybe they're right, and
> maybe not, but that's different than being cheap. Let's wait and
> see how much they spend compared to other teams before we go there.
>
>

When the league commissioner verbalizes that in all likelihood there
will be an uncapped season then I think the hope of a settlemeni is
non-existent. The owners like the current agreement, i.e.no cap. How
many RFA will be affected by this? If it extends to next year twice as
many as most. So the most expensive FA's, those that are 25-27 years
old, & never got a big pay day, are kept way below market.


== 9 of 13 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 1 2010 4:25 pm
From: "papa.carl44"

"Johnctx" <jc@spamtx.net> wrote in message
news:a7KdnaW-6Pd1gxHWnZ2dnUVZ_sydnZ2d@giganews.com...
> Remy McSwain wrote:
>> In news:k-udnX1nC6nDchbWnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@giganews.com,
>> Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> mused:
>>> Remy McSwain wrote:
>>>> "Johnctx" <jc@spamtx.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:3e2dnexIgIrhQRbWnZ2dnUVZ_vE1AAAA@giganews.com...
>>>>> Johnny Morongo wrote:
>>>>>> Did anyone NOT see this coming?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4952941
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Updated: February 27, 2010, 9:40 PM ET
>>>>>> By Adam Schefter
>>>>>> ESPN.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> New York Jets running back Thomas Jones will not restructure
>>>>>> his contract and will be released this week, sources told
>>>>>> ESPN on Saturday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jones, who will become a free agent on March 5, was slated to
>>>>>> receive a $3 million roster bonus March 9 and a $2.8 million
>>>>>> base salary in 2010.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jones, who has played the last three seasons for the Jets,
>>>>>> rushed for 1,402 yards and 14 touchdowns on 331 carries last
>>>>>> season. The Jets reached the AFC Championship game.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jones has 9,217 career rushing yards in 10 seasons with the
>>>>>> Jets, Arizona Cardinals, Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Chicago
>>>>>> Bears.
>>>>> NO NO NO, please don't do this. Woody you cheap bastard.
>>>> Theoretically, there's no cap, but the reality is that most
>>>> teams are operating under the assumption that there will be a
>>>> cap, and so they don't want to put themselves in a position to
>>>> be strangled by what they do right now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> That makes some sense but we have very few $ allocated toward RB
>>> as Leon is cheap as is Greene.
>>
>> Whether the Jets are spending enough on RB isn't any indication of
>> whether or not they are being cheap. To come to that conclusion, you'd
>> have to look at total spending.
>
> You are the only one anticipating a capped year. When in the history of
> union negotiations have things ever gotten done early?
>
> OK, how about this I think the $3MM is a smart insurance policy. Jones
> showed little slowdown this year. If, like happened to us in Mangini's
> first year when we traded for Barlow & someone desperately needs a RB, we
> can always trade him. If not it is no too much to spend to have three
> good RB's. Jones has proven himself to be on of our only RB's --haven't
> noticed Greeene's ability-- to pick up the blitz.
>
> If they release him I am screaming cheap.

And I'm behind you screaming cheap AND STUPID...he picks up the blitz, he
doesn't break after more than a dozen carries and he is consistent. They
have no idea how Washington will be, and Greene did not prove he won't be
one of those guys that spends half a season sidelined. The running game got
them where they went this season, they need to respect that.


== 10 of 13 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 1 2010 6:05 pm
From: "Ray O'Hara"

"Johnctx" <jc@spamtx.net> wrote in message
news:3e2dne1IgIr_QRbWnZ2dnUVZ_vGonZ2d@giganews.com...
> Ray O'Hara wrote:
>> "Johnny Morongo" <j.mirehiel@harmonicconcordance.com> wrote in message
>> news:v5adnV6XE_GMfhTW4p2dnAA@giganews.com...
>>> Did anyone NOT see this coming?
>>>
>>> http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4952941
>>>
>>> Updated: February 27, 2010, 9:40 PM ET
>>> By Adam Schefter
>>> ESPN.com
>>>
>>> New York Jets running back Thomas Jones will not restructure his
>>> contract and will be released this week, sources told ESPN on Saturday.
>>>
>>> Jones, who will become a free agent on March 5, was slated to receive a
>>> $3 million roster bonus March 9 and a $2.8 million base salary in 2010.
>>>
>>> Jones, who has played the last three seasons for the Jets, rushed for
>>> 1,402 yards and 14 touchdowns on 331 carries last season. The Jets
>>> reached the AFC Championship game.
>>>
>>> Jones has 9,217 career rushing yards in 10 seasons with the Jets,
>>> Arizona Cardinals, Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Chicago Bears.
>>
>>
>> it males you wonder why players bother with more than 1 year cotrascts,
>> the teams never honor them.
>> 1400 yards is a good year by any standard yet the team came looking for
>> money back from him.
>> and it's not just the J.E.S.T every team does it.
>>
>> the coming CBA fight will be nasty.
>
> Do agents get paid on the total contract or just what is paid?

knowing agents they probably get paid on the total and up front.


== 11 of 13 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 1 2010 7:35 pm
From: Michael


On Mar 1, 7:25 pm, "papa.carl44" <papadotc...@nospamverizon.net>
wrote:
> "Johnctx" <j...@spamtx.net> wrote in message
>
> news:a7KdnaW-6Pd1gxHWnZ2dnUVZ_sydnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Remy McSwain wrote:
> >> Innews:k-udnX1nC6nDchbWnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@giganews.com,
> >> Johnctx <j...@spamtx.net> mused:
> >>> Remy McSwain wrote:
> >>>> "Johnctx" <j...@spamtx.net> wrote in message
> >>>>news:3e2dnexIgIrhQRbWnZ2dnUVZ_vE1AAAA@giganews.com...
> >>>>> Johnny Morongo wrote:
> >>>>>> Did anyone NOT see this coming?
>
> >>>>>>http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4952941
>
> >>>>>> Updated: February 27, 2010, 9:40 PM ET
> >>>>>> By Adam Schefter
> >>>>>> ESPN.com
>
> >>>>>> New York Jets running back Thomas Jones will not restructure
> >>>>>> his contract and will be released this week, sources told
> >>>>>> ESPN on Saturday.
>
> >>>>>> Jones, who will become a free agent on March 5, was slated to
> >>>>>> receive a $3 million roster bonus March 9 and a $2.8 million
> >>>>>> base salary in 2010.
>
> >>>>>> Jones, who has played the last three seasons for the Jets,
> >>>>>> rushed for 1,402 yards and 14 touchdowns on 331 carries last
> >>>>>> season. The Jets reached the AFC Championship game.
>
> >>>>>> Jones has 9,217 career rushing yards in 10 seasons with the
> >>>>>> Jets, Arizona Cardinals, Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Chicago
> >>>>>> Bears.
> >>>>> NO NO NO, please don't do this.  Woody you cheap bastard.
> >>>> Theoretically, there's no cap, but the reality is that most
> >>>> teams are operating under the assumption that there will be a
> >>>> cap, and so they don't want to put themselves in a position to
> >>>> be strangled by what they do right now.
>
> >>> That makes some sense but we have very few $ allocated toward RB
> >>> as Leon is cheap as is Greene.
>
> >> Whether the Jets are spending enough on RB isn't any indication of
> >> whether or not they are being cheap.  To come to that conclusion, you'd
> >> have to look at total spending.
>
> > You are the only one anticipating a capped year.  When in the history of
> > union negotiations have things ever gotten done early?
>
> > OK, how about this I think the $3MM is a smart insurance policy.  Jones
> > showed little slowdown this year.  If, like happened to us in Mangini's
> > first year when we traded for Barlow & someone desperately needs a RB, we
> > can always trade him.  If not it is no too much to spend to have three
> > good RB's.  Jones has proven himself to be on of our only RB's --haven't
> > noticed Greeene's ability-- to pick up the blitz.
>
> > If they release him I am screaming cheap.
>
> And I'm behind you screaming cheap AND STUPID...he picks up the blitz, he
> doesn't break after more than a dozen carries and he is consistent.  They
> have no idea how Washington will be, and Greene did not prove he won't be
> one of those guys that spends half a season sidelined.  The running game got
> them where they went this season, they need to respect that.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

given what jones has done for the team, it is so stupid and
disrespectful to let him walk, i almost hope they wind up paying for
it. 6 mil for one of the most productive and durable backs in the
league is not too high of a price. give faneca 32 million but run off
jones for 6 million ??? a lot of time times i just dont get where they
are coming from. guess that is why i am not an nfl gm


== 12 of 13 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 1 2010 7:43 pm
From: "papa.carl44"

"Michael" <mjd1966@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:f37ea721-17a3-4f9a-bb93-85434e91fdc5@19g2000yqu.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 1, 7:25 pm, "papa.carl44" <papadotc...@nospamverizon.net>
wrote:
> "Johnctx" <j...@spamtx.net> wrote in message
>
> news:a7KdnaW-6Pd1gxHWnZ2dnUVZ_sydnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Remy McSwain wrote:
> >> Innews:k-udnX1nC6nDchbWnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@giganews.com,
> >> Johnctx <j...@spamtx.net> mused:
> >>> Remy McSwain wrote:
> >>>> "Johnctx" <j...@spamtx.net> wrote in message
> >>>>news:3e2dnexIgIrhQRbWnZ2dnUVZ_vE1AAAA@giganews.com...
> >>>>> Johnny Morongo wrote:
> >>>>>> Did anyone NOT see this coming?
>
> >>>>>>http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4952941
>
> >>>>>> Updated: February 27, 2010, 9:40 PM ET
> >>>>>> By Adam Schefter
> >>>>>> ESPN.com
>
> >>>>>> New York Jets running back Thomas Jones will not restructure
> >>>>>> his contract and will be released this week, sources told
> >>>>>> ESPN on Saturday.
>
> >>>>>> Jones, who will become a free agent on March 5, was slated to
> >>>>>> receive a $3 million roster bonus March 9 and a $2.8 million
> >>>>>> base salary in 2010.
>
> >>>>>> Jones, who has played the last three seasons for the Jets,
> >>>>>> rushed for 1,402 yards and 14 touchdowns on 331 carries last
> >>>>>> season. The Jets reached the AFC Championship game.
>
> >>>>>> Jones has 9,217 career rushing yards in 10 seasons with the
> >>>>>> Jets, Arizona Cardinals, Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Chicago
> >>>>>> Bears.
> >>>>> NO NO NO, please don't do this. Woody you cheap bastard.
> >>>> Theoretically, there's no cap, but the reality is that most
> >>>> teams are operating under the assumption that there will be a
> >>>> cap, and so they don't want to put themselves in a position to
> >>>> be strangled by what they do right now.
>
> >>> That makes some sense but we have very few $ allocated toward RB
> >>> as Leon is cheap as is Greene.
>
> >> Whether the Jets are spending enough on RB isn't any indication of
> >> whether or not they are being cheap. To come to that conclusion, you'd
> >> have to look at total spending.
>
> > You are the only one anticipating a capped year. When in the history of
> > union negotiations have things ever gotten done early?
>
> > OK, how about this I think the $3MM is a smart insurance policy. Jones
> > showed little slowdown this year. If, like happened to us in Mangini's
> > first year when we traded for Barlow & someone desperately needs a RB,
> > we
> > can always trade him. If not it is no too much to spend to have three
> > good RB's. Jones has proven himself to be on of our only RB's --haven't
> > noticed Greeene's ability-- to pick up the blitz.
>
> > If they release him I am screaming cheap.
>
> And I'm behind you screaming cheap AND STUPID...he picks up the blitz, he
> doesn't break after more than a dozen carries and he is consistent. They
> have no idea how Washington will be, and Greene did not prove he won't be
> one of those guys that spends half a season sidelined. The running game
> got
> them where they went this season, they need to respect that.- Hide quoted
> text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

given what jones has done for the team, it is so stupid and
disrespectful to let him walk, i almost hope they wind up paying for
it. 6 mil for one of the most productive and durable backs in the
league is not too high of a price. give faneca 32 million but run off
jones for 6 million ??? a lot of time times i just dont get where they
are coming from. guess that is why i am not an nfl gm

I think the real story is that is why they never get it done....they can't
take the team development to the next level. They always lose key players.
How many times have you watched some team and notice all the ex-Jets playing
like all-pros...and often who did become all-pros? It is way more than it
should be


== 13 of 13 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 1 2010 7:53 pm
From: Johnny Morongo


Michael wrote:
> On Mar 1, 7:25 pm, "papa.carl44" <papadotc...@nospamverizon.net>
> wrote:
>> "Johnctx" <j...@spamtx.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:a7KdnaW-6Pd1gxHWnZ2dnUVZ_sydnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Remy McSwain wrote:
>>>> Innews:k-udnX1nC6nDchbWnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@giganews.com,
>>>> Johnctx <j...@spamtx.net> mused:
>>>>> Remy McSwain wrote:
>>>>>> "Johnctx" <j...@spamtx.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:3e2dnexIgIrhQRbWnZ2dnUVZ_vE1AAAA@giganews.com...
>>>>>>> Johnny Morongo wrote:
>>>>>>>> Did anyone NOT see this coming?
>>>>>>>> http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4952941
>>>>>>>> Updated: February 27, 2010, 9:40 PM ET
>>>>>>>> By Adam Schefter
>>>>>>>> ESPN.com
>>>>>>>> New York Jets running back Thomas Jones will not restructure
>>>>>>>> his contract and will be released this week, sources told
>>>>>>>> ESPN on Saturday.
>>>>>>>> Jones, who will become a free agent on March 5, was slated to
>>>>>>>> receive a $3 million roster bonus March 9 and a $2.8 million
>>>>>>>> base salary in 2010.
>>>>>>>> Jones, who has played the last three seasons for the Jets,
>>>>>>>> rushed for 1,402 yards and 14 touchdowns on 331 carries last
>>>>>>>> season. The Jets reached the AFC Championship game.
>>>>>>>> Jones has 9,217 career rushing yards in 10 seasons with the
>>>>>>>> Jets, Arizona Cardinals, Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Chicago
>>>>>>>> Bears.
>>>>>>> NO NO NO, please don't do this. Woody you cheap bastard.
>>>>>> Theoretically, there's no cap, but the reality is that most
>>>>>> teams are operating under the assumption that there will be a
>>>>>> cap, and so they don't want to put themselves in a position to
>>>>>> be strangled by what they do right now.
>>>>> That makes some sense but we have very few $ allocated toward RB
>>>>> as Leon is cheap as is Greene.
>>>> Whether the Jets are spending enough on RB isn't any indication of
>>>> whether or not they are being cheap. To come to that conclusion, you'd
>>>> have to look at total spending.
>>> You are the only one anticipating a capped year. When in the history of
>>> union negotiations have things ever gotten done early?
>>> OK, how about this I think the $3MM is a smart insurance policy. Jones
>>> showed little slowdown this year. If, like happened to us in Mangini's
>>> first year when we traded for Barlow & someone desperately needs a RB, we
>>> can always trade him. If not it is no too much to spend to have three
>>> good RB's. Jones has proven himself to be on of our only RB's --haven't
>>> noticed Greeene's ability-- to pick up the blitz.
>>> If they release him I am screaming cheap.
>> And I'm behind you screaming cheap AND STUPID...he picks up the blitz, he
>> doesn't break after more than a dozen carries and he is consistent. They
>> have no idea how Washington will be, and Greene did not prove he won't be
>> one of those guys that spends half a season sidelined. The running game got
>> them where they went this season, they need to respect that.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> given what jones has done for the team, it is so stupid and
> disrespectful to let him walk, i almost hope they wind up paying for
> it. 6 mil for one of the most productive and durable backs in the
> league is not too high of a price. give faneca 32 million but run off
> jones for 6 million ??? a lot of time times i just dont get where they
> are coming from. guess that is why i am not an nfl gm

31 teams just breathed a sigh of relief. There is a spot open in
Oakland though.

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Potential Busts in 2010 First Round Draft
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/4c44561b0c104822?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 1 2010 10:57 am
From: Michael


On Mar 1, 10:23 am, Johnctx <j...@spamtx.net> wrote:
> papa.carl44 wrote:
> > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >news:b8817fc1-a249-4664-90aa-2da6f1f75786@d2g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> >> Is there a Gholston in the 2010 draft ??? Thus far, I see two possible
> >> busts.
>
> >> 1. Taylor Mays: Safety, USC.  Physical perfection with massive speed.
> >> Hits like a truck.  Why he could bust... He's not a LB nor can he do
> >> what an NFL safety should do.  I saw a few USC games and I think his
> >> coverage skills absolutely suck. So, you'll have a guy out there in
> >> the box that is not quite a LB and has no hope to deal with
> >> receivers.  He'd be help in the box for sure on running downs, but
> >> he'd be a liability against the pass most of the time.  Care to get
> >> carved up underneath ???
>
> > The thing these type guys can do is play in the seam really well, size
> > matters there big time and it is usually a TE they are matched up with.
>
> >> 2. Golden Tate: WR Notre Dame.  And... Some mocks have the Jets taking
> >> him.  Why he may bust.  I've seen EVERY single ND game this year.
> >> He's physical and has good hands.  Why he may bust...  I never... and
> >> I do mean NEVER seen him get any real separation from the defenders.
> >> And we are talking about college here.  He'll be in big trouble, I
> >> think going against NFL quality cover men.
>
> >> Stay away from these two guys, IMHO
>
> > To me....they are all potential busts...nothing is sure
>
> Papa, truer words have never been spoken and if the NFLPA wasn't
> controlled by the agents-- to me the only explanation-- then the system
> of paying players who have never done a thing would disappear.  That
> guys like Jonathan Sullivan probably made more money than Tedy B & Mike
> Vrabel is why the system is a mess.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

john.. do you think it is possible to change things so guys that have
not gaind a a yard or made a single hit yet in the nfl dont get
bloated deals ???

still... one thing I always think about... if you decide to try to
play pro ball, you are pretty much signing your life over to it and
making a huge sacrafice in time and effort. the ones that make it to
first round in the draft are one in a million literally. like hitting
the lottery i guess... could you deny a one in a million guy that took
such a gamble his big pay off ??? just thinking out loud as usual...


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 1 2010 12:27 pm
From: Johnctx


Michael wrote:
> On Mar 1, 10:23 am, Johnctx <j...@spamtx.net> wrote:
>> papa.carl44 wrote:
>>> "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:b8817fc1-a249-4664-90aa-2da6f1f75786@d2g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Is there a Gholston in the 2010 draft ??? Thus far, I see two possible
>>>> busts.
>>>> 1. Taylor Mays: Safety, USC. Physical perfection with massive speed.
>>>> Hits like a truck. Why he could bust... He's not a LB nor can he do
>>>> what an NFL safety should do. I saw a few USC games and I think his
>>>> coverage skills absolutely suck. So, you'll have a guy out there in
>>>> the box that is not quite a LB and has no hope to deal with
>>>> receivers. He'd be help in the box for sure on running downs, but
>>>> he'd be a liability against the pass most of the time. Care to get
>>>> carved up underneath ???
>>> The thing these type guys can do is play in the seam really well, size
>>> matters there big time and it is usually a TE they are matched up with.
>>>> 2. Golden Tate: WR Notre Dame. And... Some mocks have the Jets taking
>>>> him. Why he may bust. I've seen EVERY single ND game this year.
>>>> He's physical and has good hands. Why he may bust... I never... and
>>>> I do mean NEVER seen him get any real separation from the defenders.
>>>> And we are talking about college here. He'll be in big trouble, I
>>>> think going against NFL quality cover men.
>>>> Stay away from these two guys, IMHO
>>> To me....they are all potential busts...nothing is sure
>> Papa, truer words have never been spoken and if the NFLPA wasn't
>> controlled by the agents-- to me the only explanation-- then the system
>> of paying players who have never done a thing would disappear. That
>> guys like Jonathan Sullivan probably made more money than Tedy B & Mike
>> Vrabel is why the system is a mess.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> john.. do you think it is possible to change things so guys that have
> not gaind a a yard or made a single hit yet in the nfl dont get
> bloated deals ???

I wish. The owner's like this system because it is cheaper & less
painful. I think they fear that the pay off to having a harder rookie
cap would be accelerated FA. cap mangement is much easy.
>
> still... one thing I always think about... if you decide to try to
> play pro ball, you are pretty much signing your life over to it and
> making a huge sacrafice in time and effort. the ones that make it to
> first round in the draft are one in a million literally. like hitting
> the lottery i guess... could you deny a one in a million guy that took
> such a gamble his big pay off ??? just thinking out loud as usual...

I don't begrudge anyone $ whether owners or players. I just want the
best football players on rosters & we don't always get that.


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 1 2010 12:51 pm
From: Michael


On Mar 1, 3:27 pm, Johnctx <j...@spamtx.net> wrote:
> Michael wrote:
> > On Mar 1, 10:23 am, Johnctx <j...@spamtx.net> wrote:
> >> papa.carl44 wrote:
> >>> "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:b8817fc1-a249-4664-90aa-2da6f1f75786@d2g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> >>>> Is there a Gholston in the 2010 draft ??? Thus far, I see two possible
> >>>> busts.
> >>>> 1. Taylor Mays: Safety, USC.  Physical perfection with massive speed.
> >>>> Hits like a truck.  Why he could bust... He's not a LB nor can he do
> >>>> what an NFL safety should do.  I saw a few USC games and I think his
> >>>> coverage skills absolutely suck. So, you'll have a guy out there in
> >>>> the box that is not quite a LB and has no hope to deal with
> >>>> receivers.  He'd be help in the box for sure on running downs, but
> >>>> he'd be a liability against the pass most of the time.  Care to get
> >>>> carved up underneath ???
> >>> The thing these type guys can do is play in the seam really well, size
> >>> matters there big time and it is usually a TE they are matched up with.
> >>>> 2. Golden Tate: WR Notre Dame.  And... Some mocks have the Jets taking
> >>>> him.  Why he may bust.  I've seen EVERY single ND game this year.
> >>>> He's physical and has good hands.  Why he may bust...  I never... and
> >>>> I do mean NEVER seen him get any real separation from the defenders.
> >>>> And we are talking about college here.  He'll be in big trouble, I
> >>>> think going against NFL quality cover men.
> >>>> Stay away from these two guys, IMHO
> >>> To me....they are all potential busts...nothing is sure
> >> Papa, truer words have never been spoken and if the NFLPA wasn't
> >> controlled by the agents-- to me the only explanation-- then the system
> >> of paying players who have never done a thing would disappear.  That
> >> guys like Jonathan Sullivan probably made more money than Tedy B & Mike
> >> Vrabel is why the system is a mess.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > john.. do you think it is possible to change things so guys that have
> > not gaind a a yard or made a single hit yet in the nfl dont get
> > bloated deals ???
>
> I wish.  The owner's like this system because it is cheaper & less
> painful.  I think they fear that the pay off to having a harder rookie
> cap would be accelerated FA.  cap mangement is much easy.
>
>
>
> > still... one thing I always think about... if you decide to try to
> > play pro ball, you are pretty much signing your life over to it and
> > making a huge sacrafice in time and effort.  the ones that make it to
> > first round in the draft are one in a million literally.  like hitting
> > the lottery i guess... could you deny a one in a million guy that took
> > such a gamble his big pay off ??? just thinking out loud as usual...
>
> I don't begrudge anyone $ whether owners or players.  I just want the
> best football players on rosters & we don't always get that.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

what bothers me most about the jets... especially the jets of the
1980's. the jets always did have talented and high paid rosters.
they just always found painful ways to screw up. still ... back to
the original subject... with "cant miss" first round prospects going
bust, and late round guys becoming stars, i can see the problems with
a set market value for the first round guys. i guess you can look at
the draft as a poker game for the owners/gm's.


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 1 2010 1:01 pm
From: "Remy McSwain"

"Johnctx" <jc@spamtx.net> wrote in message
news:ApGdnYy7gfy5vhHWnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> Michael wrote:

>> john.. do you think it is possible to change things so guys that
>> have
>> not gaind a a yard or made a single hit yet in the nfl dont get
>> bloated deals ???
>
> I wish. The owner's like this system because it is cheaper & less
> painful. I think they fear that the pay off to having a harder
> rookie cap would be accelerated FA. cap mangement is much easy.

John, I'm not sure you know how the cap works. Once the NFLPA and
the owners agreed to a cap amount, then if the teams paid more money
to the rookies, there would be that much less money available to the
vets. Frankly, that'd be true even without a cap. Even without
one, teams would spend whatever they decided to spend on players,
and so more to one group would mean less to the others. But anyway,
with a cap, it's most definately true.

>> still... one thing I always think about... if you decide to try
>> to
>> play pro ball, you are pretty much signing your life over to it
>> and
>> making a huge sacrafice in time and effort. the ones that make
>> it to
>> first round in the draft are one in a million literally. like
>> hitting
>> the lottery i guess... could you deny a one in a million guy that
>> took
>> such a gamble his big pay off ??? just thinking out loud as
>> usual...
>
> I don't begrudge anyone $ whether owners or players. I just want
> the best football players on rosters & we don't always get that.

Do you think any really good football player is ever left out of the
NFL if he wanted to play? There's always some team out there
willing to pay anyone what he's worth. It's just that some players
think they're worth more than what the market would bear.


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 1 2010 2:24 pm
From: Johnctx


Remy McSwain wrote:
> "Johnctx" <jc@spamtx.net> wrote in message
> news:ApGdnYy7gfy5vhHWnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> Michael wrote:
>
>>> john.. do you think it is possible to change things so guys that
>>> have
>>> not gaind a a yard or made a single hit yet in the nfl dont get
>>> bloated deals ???
>> I wish. The owner's like this system because it is cheaper & less
>> painful. I think they fear that the pay off to having a harder
>> rookie cap would be accelerated FA. cap mangement is much easy.
>
> John, I'm not sure you know how the cap works. Once the NFLPA and
> the owners agreed to a cap amount, then if the teams paid more money
> to the rookies, there would be that much less money available to the
> vets. Frankly, that'd be true even without a cap. Even without
> one, teams would spend whatever they decided to spend on players,
> and so more to one group would mean less to the others. But anyway,
> with a cap, it's most definately true.

I do understand. What I am saying is that it is cheaper & less
problematic paying the Gholston's of the world than dealing with 4-7
Leon Washingtons every year. It is risk management and by having more
RFA it benefits the owners. Under teh current system underpaid players
that get hurt are cut.

I am suggesting that the obvious trade off with a rookie cap is
accelerated emancipation
>
>>> still... one thing I always think about... if you decide to try
>>> to
>>> play pro ball, you are pretty much signing your life over to it
>>> and
>>> making a huge sacrafice in time and effort. the ones that make
>>> it to
>>> first round in the draft are one in a million literally. like
>>> hitting
>>> the lottery i guess... could you deny a one in a million guy that
>>> took
>>> such a gamble his big pay off ??? just thinking out loud as
>>> usual...
>> I don't begrudge anyone $ whether owners or players. I just want
>> the best football players on rosters & we don't always get that.
>
> Do you think any really good football player is ever left out of the
> NFL if he wanted to play? There's always some team out there
> willing to pay anyone what he's worth. It's just that some players
> think they're worth more than what the market would bear.
>
>

Rookies that are cap issues don't get cut. They keep players out of the
league. What they take out as % of cap space keep good players out of
the league as well.

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Leon Washington
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/1f29129c3434ddc7?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 1 2010 1:04 pm
From: MBD


graybeard <graybeard@invalid.invalid> wrote in
news:lotno5de13ecqtbl1t04mdvrl9vfj0mn6p@4ax.com:

> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:44:01 +0000 (UTC) MBD <MBD@MBD.com> wrote:
>
>>Hey, Bills fan here. I was just curious about the status of Leon
>>Washington. He suffered a compound tib-fib fracture, like the Bills'
>>OL Eric Wood did. And the Jets just tendered Washington at the 2nd
>>round level, meaning he's probably close to being 100%. That would be
>>great news not only for Washington, the Jets, but also Eric Wood's
>>prognosis. Any info would help.
>>
>>MBD
>
> The expectation is that Leon will recover fully. He is already
> "running" in the Jets underwater tank to get some resistance training.
> That is not to say he will be ready for OTA's, but I think that they
> expect him to be able to play sometime this season. I think I read
> somewhere that it takes a full year to completely recover from this
> type of injury. Each position requires different physical skills, so
> that might affect recovery time and whether they can play at the same
> level as they did prior to the injury. Leon will need to get back his
> speed and cutting ability, while Wood will need the leg strength to
> support his own weight and to fight off 300 pound defensive linemen.
> In both cases I would worry about the risk of further injury from a
> blow to the leg, particularly from something like a chop block.

From what I read, Wood suffered a compound fracture of the tib-fib with
clean breaks to both bones and no other structural damage. He had a rod
placed in his tibia for further stabilization, likely given his size.
But cleanly-broken bone almost always heals back to 100%, barring any
complications. If Washington had the same type of injury, he should be
back no problem. Any other structural damage will slow the recovery
time, and bone fragments will as well.

MBD


== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 1 2010 1:13 pm
From: Michael


On Mar 1, 4:04 pm, MBD <M...@MBD.com> wrote:
> graybeard <graybe...@invalid.invalid> wrote innews:lotno5de13ecqtbl1t04mdvrl9vfj0mn6p@4ax.com:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:44:01 +0000 (UTC) MBD <M...@MBD.com> wrote:
>
> >>Hey, Bills fan here.  I was just curious about the status of Leon
> >>Washington.  He suffered a compound tib-fib fracture, like the Bills'
> >>OL Eric Wood did.  And the Jets just tendered Washington at the 2nd
> >>round level, meaning he's probably close to being 100%.  That would be
> >>great news not only for Washington, the Jets, but also Eric Wood's
> >>prognosis.  Any info would help.
>
> >>MBD
>
> > The expectation is that Leon will recover fully. He is already
> > "running" in the Jets underwater tank to get some resistance training.
> > That is not to say he will be ready for OTA's, but I think that they
> > expect him to be able to play sometime this season. I think I read
> > somewhere that it takes a full year to completely recover from this
> > type of injury. Each position requires different physical skills, so
> > that might affect recovery time and whether they can play at the same
> > level as they did prior to the injury. Leon will need to get back his
> > speed and cutting ability, while Wood will need the leg strength to
> > support his own weight and to fight off 300 pound defensive linemen.
> > In both cases I would worry about the risk of further injury from a
> > blow to the leg, particularly from something like a chop block.
>
> From what I read, Wood suffered a compound fracture of the tib-fib with
> clean breaks to both bones and no other structural damage.  He had a rod
> placed in his tibia for further stabilization, likely given his size.  
> But cleanly-broken bone almost always heals back to 100%, barring any
> complications.  If Washington had the same type of injury, he should be
> back no problem.  Any other structural damage will slow the recovery
> time, and bone fragments will as well.
>
> MBD- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

dont you also have muscular and soft tissue issues with this sort of
an injury ??? use it or lose it, no ??? i'd gathet that all your
muscles will suffer if they arent being put through intence work for a
years time.


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 1 2010 2:41 pm
From: MBD


Michael <mjd1966@verizon.net> wrote in
news:9a5c0ada-4ea6-42e0-a23f-c9d344af4ebb@q15g2000yqj.googlegroups.com:

> On Mar 1, 4:04 pm, MBD <M...@MBD.com> wrote:
>> graybeard <graybe...@invalid.invalid> wrote
>> innews:lotno5de13ecqtbl1t04md
> vrl9vfj0mn6p@4ax.com:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:44:01 +0000 (UTC) MBD <M...@MBD.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>Hey, Bills fan here.  I was just curious about the status of Leon
>> >>Washington.  He suffered a compound tib-fib fracture, like the
>> >>Bills' OL Eric Wood did.  And the Jets just tendered Washington at
>> >>the 2nd round level, meaning he's probably close to being 100%.
>> >> That would b
> e
>> >>great news not only for Washington, the Jets, but also Eric Wood's
>> >>prognosis.  Any info would help.
>>
>> >>MBD
>>
>> > The expectation is that Leon will recover fully. He is already
>> > "running" in the Jets underwater tank to get some resistance
>> > training. That is not to say he will be ready for OTA's, but I
>> > think that they expect him to be able to play sometime this season.
>> > I think I read somewhere that it takes a full year to completely
>> > recover from this type of injury. Each position requires different
>> > physical skills, so that might affect recovery time and whether
>> > they can play at the same level as they did prior to the injury.
>> > Leon will need to get back his speed and cutting ability, while
>> > Wood will need the leg strength to support his own weight and to
>> > fight off 300 pound defensive linemen. In both cases I would worry
>> > about the risk of further injury from a blow to the leg,
>> > particularly from something like a chop block.
>>
>> From what I read, Wood suffered a compound fracture of the tib-fib
>> with clean breaks to both bones and no other structural damage.  He
>> had a ro
> d
>> placed in his tibia for further stabilization, likely given his size.
>>   But cleanly-broken bone almost always heals back to 100%, barring
>> any complications.  If Washington had the same type of injury, he
>> should be back no problem.  Any other structural damage will slow the
>> recovery time, and bone fragments will as well.
>>
>> MBD- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> dont you also have muscular and soft tissue issues with this sort of
> an injury ??? use it or lose it, no ??? i'd gathet that all your
> muscles will suffer if they arent being put through intence work for a
> years time.

Muscle atrophy can occur, but can be reversed by quickly going back to
exercise, like it appears Washington is, in a pool.

MBD


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 1 2010 7:48 pm
From: graybeard


On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 21:04:25 +0000 (UTC) MBD <MBD@MBD.com> wrote:

>graybeard <graybeard@invalid.invalid> wrote in
>news:lotno5de13ecqtbl1t04mdvrl9vfj0mn6p@4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:44:01 +0000 (UTC) MBD <MBD@MBD.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Hey, Bills fan here. I was just curious about the status of Leon
>>>Washington. He suffered a compound tib-fib fracture, like the Bills'
>>>OL Eric Wood did. And the Jets just tendered Washington at the 2nd
>>>round level, meaning he's probably close to being 100%. That would be
>>>great news not only for Washington, the Jets, but also Eric Wood's
>>>prognosis. Any info would help.
>>>
>>>MBD
>>
>> The expectation is that Leon will recover fully. He is already
>> "running" in the Jets underwater tank to get some resistance training.
>> That is not to say he will be ready for OTA's, but I think that they
>> expect him to be able to play sometime this season. I think I read
>> somewhere that it takes a full year to completely recover from this
>> type of injury. Each position requires different physical skills, so
>> that might affect recovery time and whether they can play at the same
>> level as they did prior to the injury. Leon will need to get back his
>> speed and cutting ability, while Wood will need the leg strength to
>> support his own weight and to fight off 300 pound defensive linemen.
>> In both cases I would worry about the risk of further injury from a
>> blow to the leg, particularly from something like a chop block.
>
>From what I read, Wood suffered a compound fracture of the tib-fib with
>clean breaks to both bones and no other structural damage. He had a rod
>placed in his tibia for further stabilization, likely given his size.
>But cleanly-broken bone almost always heals back to 100%, barring any
>complications. If Washington had the same type of injury, he should be
>back no problem. Any other structural damage will slow the recovery
>time, and bone fragments will as well.
>
>MBD

Washington also suffered clean breaks and has a rod inserted in the
tibia. There was no damage to any joints to the best of my knowledge.
His injury also happened early in the season, so he has already had
almost 6 months of recovery time and apparently is healing ahead of
schedule.
--
graybeard

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Is there some sort of "I'm The Dumbest Governor of New York EVER"
Contest going on??
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/af191c4074a4a553?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 1 2010 3:42 pm
From: "Nunya Bidnits"


Brian Gaff said:
> I've removed the blind-users group from the list.
> Its all rather off topic for a computer related group. its also
> crossposted as per troll posts
> Brian

And having done that, you still feel compelled to respond to trolling loons.


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 1 2010 3:44 pm
From: "Guy Namechanger"

"Nunya Bidnits" <nunyabidnits@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
news:hmhjbi$p7t$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> Brian Gaff said:
>> I've removed the blind-users group from the list.
>> Its all rather off topic for a computer related group. its also
>> crossposted as per troll posts
>> Brian
>
> And having done that, you still feel compelled to respond to trolling
> loons.
>
>
Yeah!


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 1 2010 5:05 pm
From: Gustavo Wombat


On Mar 1, 3:42 pm, "Nunya Bidnits" <nunyabidn...@eternal-
september.invalid> wrote:
> Brian Gaff said:
>
> > I've removed the blind-users group from the list.
> > Its all rather  off topic for a computer related group. its also
> > crossposted as per troll posts
> > Brian
>
> And having done that, you still feel compelled to respond to trolling loons.

And you feel compelled to respond to the guy responding, but without
restoring the newsgroup that he actually reads...


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