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TOPIC: Cromartie a Jet? ESPN reports
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== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 4 2010 9:33 pm
From: Tutor
On Mar 4, 10:49 pm, Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Filed to ESPN: Chargers traded cornerback Antonio Cromartie to Jets
> for a 2011 third-round pick that could turn to a second.
>
> Why does Rex like this guy so much? There are quotes from Rex in
> Baltimore gushing about his Pro Day. Good cover guy but soft. Ask
> Shonn Greene.
Cromartie didn't fit in a zone. Prefers man. So does Rex. :)
Opposite Revis, he could get a lot of INTs.
PFT:
"To me, I felt like we played too much zone," Cromartie said. "As we
would say, we felt like we had two of the best corners in the NFL, me
and Jammer, and we played too much zone coverage, rather than man
[coverage]."
Miller then asked whether Cromartie is hoping to play in a 3-4 defense
that uses press-man coverage.
"I'd just like to play in a defense that's aggressive, period, to the
point of, let us use our strengths and use our abilities," Cromartie
said. "Ever since I came out, my first two years it was like that. We
had Coach [Wade] Phillips and Coach [Ted] Cottrell [as defensive
coordinators]. My second year, the 2007 and 2006 seasons, that's
exactly how we played. We may have played a cover-4 defense but there
was a lot of press-man that depended on us. We let the front seven do
their thing and we tried to handle everything in the back end."
Rivals.com 2006 scouting report on Cromartie:
Pros:
Cromartie declared for the NFL Draft after missing the 2005 season
following knee surgery. He has the combination of size, speed,
quickness, agility and instincts only the highest blue-chip
cornerbacks possess. He has rare movement skills for a 6-foot-2
athlete and performs positional skills that only 180-pound athletes
can accomplish. He has the hip flexibility and footwork of a much
smaller athlete with the height and reach to matchup with any receiver
in the game. He is the best college corner over the past two decades.
In his back pedal, he is smooth, fluid and is able to break quickly on
the ball. He has exceptional ball skills and competes for the pass on
every attempt. He shows good recognition of plays with the rare
closing burst to make up for mistakes and incredible top-drawer ball
skills. His workouts at both the NFL Combine and Florida State pro day
indicate his knee problems are behind him. His decision to declare for
the draft came as a surprise, but his postseason performance has
opened eyes to his athletic skills.
Cons:
He missed the entire 2005 season with a knee injury sustained in July
2005. His bizarre college career includes only one start. In zone
coverage, he is raw in many respects and needs development. He is not
alert and instinctive to recognize routes and his decision-making is
not as developed as necessary. As a tackler, he is not really
physical.
Numbers:
At the Combine, he ran the 40-yard dash in 4.44 seconds, with a 38"
vertical jump and an 11' broad jump. His 10-yard split was 1.53
seconds, one of the best at the event. At Florida State's pro day, he
ran the 40-yard dash in 4.37 seconds with a time of 3.89 seconds in
the short shuttle and a time of 7.02 seconds in the three-cone drill.
He also had a 42" vertical jump and did 18 reps of the 225-pound bench
press. His overall stats in 2004 include four interceptions and two
touchdowns on an interception and fumble recovery.
== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 5 2010 5:26 am
From: graybeard
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 19:49:28 -0800 (PST) Tutor <dcat4434@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>Filed to ESPN: Chargers traded cornerback Antonio Cromartie to Jets
>for a 2011 third-round pick that could turn to a second.
>
>
>Why does Rex like this guy so much? There are quotes from Rex in
>Baltimore gushing about his Pro Day. Good cover guy but soft. Ask
>Shonn Greene.
I don't like this move. Cromartie has a world of physical talent, but
the maturity of a 14 year old. I can only imagine the kind of trouble he
could get into in New York. And he refuses to tackle. If Cromartie and
Rhodes are both on the team and playing at the same time, Leonhard might
have to lead the league in tackles.
--
graybeard
== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 5 2010 5:50 am
From: CaptMyng
On Mar 4, 11:33 pm, Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mar 4, 10:49 pm, Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Filed to ESPN: Chargers traded cornerback Antonio Cromartie to Jets
> > for a 2011 third-round pick that could turn to a second.
>
> > Why does Rex like this guy so much? There are quotes from Rex in
> > Baltimore gushing about his Pro Day. Good cover guy but soft. Ask
> > Shonn Greene.
>
> Cromartie didn't fit in a zone. Prefers man. So does Rex. :)
> Opposite Revis, he could get a lot of INTs.
Thanks man, I feel better about this now.
== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 5 2010 6:04 am
From: Johnctx
graybeard wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 19:49:28 -0800 (PST) Tutor <dcat4434@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Filed to ESPN: Chargers traded cornerback Antonio Cromartie to Jets
>> for a 2011 third-round pick that could turn to a second.
>>
>>
>> Why does Rex like this guy so much? There are quotes from Rex in
>> Baltimore gushing about his Pro Day. Good cover guy but soft. Ask
>> Shonn Greene.
>
> I don't like this move. Cromartie has a world of physical talent, but
> the maturity of a 14 year old. I can only imagine the kind of trouble he
> could get into in New York. And he refuses to tackle. If Cromartie and
> Rhodes are both on the team and playing at the same time, Leonhard might
> have to lead the league in tackles.
LOL about Leonhard.
== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 5 2010 7:19 am
From: Michael
On Mar 4, 10:49 pm, Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Filed to ESPN: Chargers traded cornerback Antonio Cromartie to Jets
> for a 2011 third-round pick that could turn to a second.
>
> Why does Rex like this guy so much? There are quotes from Rex in
> Baltimore gushing about his Pro Day. Good cover guy but soft. Ask
> Shonn Greene.
i think this is a great move... with the rex system, no bother so much
about cromartie not being a big hitting cb. no bother about him not
being a good zone guy. he's perfect for what the rex system needs. a
cb that can press and play man perfectly during those over load
blitzes. now we have our second "IDEAL" cover cb and are free to
address the d-line in the draft. aweseome, AWESOME move. the jets
defense.. the REX defense badly needed that second cover corner. i
feel a lot better now
== 6 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 5 2010 7:27 am
From: Johnctx
Michael wrote:
> On Mar 4, 10:49 pm, Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Filed to ESPN: Chargers traded cornerback Antonio Cromartie to Jets
>> for a 2011 third-round pick that could turn to a second.
>>
>> Why does Rex like this guy so much? There are quotes from Rex in
>> Baltimore gushing about his Pro Day. Good cover guy but soft. Ask
>> Shonn Greene.
>
> i think this is a great move... with the rex system, no bother so much
> about cromartie not being a big hitting cb. no bother about him not
> being a good zone guy. he's perfect for what the rex system needs. a
> cb that can press and play man perfectly during those over load
> blitzes. now we have our second "IDEAL" cover cb and are free to
> address the d-line in the draft. aweseome, AWESOME move. the jets
> defense.. the REX defense badly needed that second cover corner. i
> feel a lot better now
If he doesn't spend the entire season injured like Strickland & Shepard.
== 7 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 5 2010 8:00 am
From: Coach Lon
On Mar 5, 10:19 am, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Mar 4, 10:49 pm, Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Filed to ESPN: Chargers traded cornerback Antonio Cromartie to Jets
> > for a 2011 third-round pick that could turn to a second.
>
> > Why does Rex like this guy so much? There are quotes from Rex in
> > Baltimore gushing about his Pro Day. Good cover guy but soft. Ask
> > Shonn Greene.
>
> i think this is a great move... with the rex system, no bother so much
> about cromartie not being a big hitting cb. no bother about him not
> being a good zone guy. he's perfect for what the rex system needs. a
> cb that can press and play man perfectly during those over load
> blitzes. now we have our second "IDEAL" cover cb and are free to
> address the d-line in the draft. aweseome, AWESOME move. the jets
> defense.. the REX defense badly needed that second cover corner. i
> feel a lot better now
@ Michael. Exactly. Great post.
== 8 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 5 2010 8:04 am
From: Michael
On Mar 5, 10:27 am, Johnctx <j...@spamtx.net> wrote:
> Michael wrote:
> > On Mar 4, 10:49 pm, Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Filed to ESPN: Chargers traded cornerback Antonio Cromartie to Jets
> >> for a 2011 third-round pick that could turn to a second.
>
> >> Why does Rex like this guy so much? There are quotes from Rex in
> >> Baltimore gushing about his Pro Day. Good cover guy but soft. Ask
> >> Shonn Greene.
>
> > i think this is a great move... with the rex system, no bother so much
> > about cromartie not being a big hitting cb. no bother about him not
> > being a good zone guy. he's perfect for what the rex system needs. a
> > cb that can press and play man perfectly during those over load
> > blitzes. now we have our second "IDEAL" cover cb and are free to
> > address the d-line in the draft. aweseome, AWESOME move. the jets
> > defense.. the REX defense badly needed that second cover corner. i
> > feel a lot better now
>
> If he doesn't spend the entire season injured like Strickland & Shepard.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
you just stepped on my dick
== 9 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 5 2010 8:54 am
From: Johnctx
Michael wrote:
> On Mar 5, 10:27 am, Johnctx <j...@spamtx.net> wrote:
>> Michael wrote:
>>> On Mar 4, 10:49 pm, Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> Filed to ESPN: Chargers traded cornerback Antonio Cromartie to Jets
>>>> for a 2011 third-round pick that could turn to a second.
>>>> Why does Rex like this guy so much? There are quotes from Rex in
>>>> Baltimore gushing about his Pro Day. Good cover guy but soft. Ask
>>>> Shonn Greene.
>>> i think this is a great move... with the rex system, no bother so much
>>> about cromartie not being a big hitting cb. no bother about him not
>>> being a good zone guy. he's perfect for what the rex system needs. a
>>> cb that can press and play man perfectly during those over load
>>> blitzes. now we have our second "IDEAL" cover cb and are free to
>>> address the d-line in the draft. aweseome, AWESOME move. the jets
>>> defense.. the REX defense badly needed that second cover corner. i
>>> feel a lot better now
>> If he doesn't spend the entire season injured like Strickland & Shepard.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> you just stepped on my dick
I am Irish I anticipate the worst to avoid disappointment.
:)
I thought about that the other day. Would the defense have stepped up
sooner if we had a reliable corner at the other spot? Shepard &
Strickland both pulled & bruised their quad. There seems to be a rash
of these in not only football but baseball. Is it the focus on core
muscle fitness?
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TOPIC: You just KNOW he's BLACK, "25, and fathering seven children by five
different women."
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 5 2010 2:09 am
From: None and None
And blacks wonder why people look down on them.
San Diego also had grown tired of Cromartie's maturity issues, with the
former Florida State product fathering seven children by five different
women. If you're one of your team's stars, such behavior might be
overlooked. If you're on a downward trajectory, that's just one more
reason to say goodbye.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/don_banks/03/05/midnight.ma
dness/#ixzz0hIL0dcxT
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TOPIC: Have we seen the last of Leon Washington as a Jet?
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== 1 of 13 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 5 2010 6:00 am
From: Johnctx
buRford wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 12:37:15 -0500, graybeard <graybeard@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> The Jets have tendered Leon at the 2nd round level, which means any team
>> can sign him in exchange for a 2nd round pick, unless the Jets match the
>> contact offer. I have to think that there would be a number of teams who
>> would think he was worth a 2nd rounder if he can pass their physical.
>> The Browns have 11 draft picks. Maybe Eric whispers a few things in
>> Holmgren's ear.
>>
>> Is it possible that the Jets have put themselves in a position where
>> last year's number 1 rushing offense in the NFL is reduced to Shonn
>> Greene, who has a total of 108 carries in his career and more lost
>> fumbles (3) than TD's (2)?
>
>
> At the same time, the Jets tendered Braylon at the 1 & 3.
> Me... I think Leon's more valuable to the team, even with the risk from his injury.
> Braylon still hasn't proven he can play with consistency... or that he can be a team
> player (rather than a *me* guy).
> They gave Brad Smith the same tender as Leon. I actually think Brad's more valuable than
> Braylon.
> Lots of strange evaluations going on in Jetslandistan.
>
>
> From Leberfeld:
>
> The Jets announced all their tenders on Thursday and here they are - Braylon Edwards
> (first and third), Leon Washington (second), Eric Smith (third), Wayne Hunter (third),
> James Ihedigbo (right of first refusal), Brad Smith (second), Drew Coleman (sixth) and
> Kellen Clemens (second). The following players weren't tendered - Marques Murrell, Howard
> Green and Wallace Wright.
>
> I'd have tendered Murrell over Coleman, not that a six is anything much. At this point,
> it looks like Coleman has some compromising pics of Woody, since two coaching regimes have
> kept him around ;)
After they dropped Murrell several times form the game day roster you
knew he wasn't long. I like him & hate Coleman so who knows what that
is about but for the 1st time in 10 years our LBers look like a strength.
As for Washington, someone could wreak havoc with the Jets by
overpaying him & his agent is as your boy Rahm would say, retarded.
:)
Is the #2 this year or next?
== 2 of 13 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 5 2010 6:01 am
From: Johnctx
graybeard wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:36:03 -0500 buRford <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 12:37:15 -0500, graybeard <graybeard@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> The Jets have tendered Leon at the 2nd round level, which means any team
>>> can sign him in exchange for a 2nd round pick, unless the Jets match the
>>> contact offer. I have to think that there would be a number of teams who
>>> would think he was worth a 2nd rounder if he can pass their physical.
>>> The Browns have 11 draft picks. Maybe Eric whispers a few things in
>>> Holmgren's ear.
>>>
>>> Is it possible that the Jets have put themselves in a position where
>>> last year's number 1 rushing offense in the NFL is reduced to Shonn
>>> Greene, who has a total of 108 carries in his career and more lost
>>> fumbles (3) than TD's (2)?
>>
>> At the same time, the Jets tendered Braylon at the 1 & 3.
>> Me... I think Leon's more valuable to the team, even with the risk from his injury.
>> Braylon still hasn't proven he can play with consistency... or that he can be a team
>> player (rather than a *me* guy).
>> They gave Brad Smith the same tender as Leon. I actually think Brad's more valuable than
>> Braylon.
>> Lots of strange evaluations going on in Jetslandistan.
>>
>>
>>From Leberfeld:
>> The Jets announced all their tenders on Thursday and here they are - Braylon Edwards
>> (first and third), Leon Washington (second), Eric Smith (third), Wayne Hunter (third),
>> James Ihedigbo (right of first refusal), Brad Smith (second), Drew Coleman (sixth) and
>> Kellen Clemens (second). The following players weren't tendered - Marques Murrell, Howard
>> Green and Wallace Wright.
>>
>> I'd have tendered Murrell over Coleman, not that a six is anything much. At this point,
>> it looks like Coleman has some compromising pics of Woody, since two coaching regimes have
>> kept him around ;)
>
> I'm baffled as to how Coleman hangs on. I agree that Murrell has more
> upside, and Wright is one of our best ST players.
Wright?
== 3 of 13 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 5 2010 6:31 am
From: graybeard
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 08:01:28 -0600 Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> wrote:
>graybeard wrote:
>>
>> I'm baffled as to how Coleman hangs on. I agree that Murrell has more
>> upside, and Wright is one of our best ST players.
>
>Wright?
I don't understand the question.
--
graybeard
== 4 of 13 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 5 2010 6:36 am
From: graybeard
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 08:00:53 -0600 Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> wrote:
>As for Washington, someone could wreak havoc with the Jets by
>overpaying him & his agent is as your boy Rahm would say, retarded.
>
>:)
>
>Is the #2 this year or next?
I'm pretty sure it's this year. If I am the Eagles, I'm thinking that
Leon could be the perfect replacement for Westbrook.
--
graybeard
== 5 of 13 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 5 2010 7:02 am
From: Johnctx
graybeard wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 08:01:28 -0600 Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> wrote:
>
>> graybeard wrote:
>>> I'm baffled as to how Coleman hangs on. I agree that Murrell has more
>>> upside, and Wright is one of our best ST players.
>> Wright?
>
> I don't understand the question.
One of our best ST?
I guess I haven't seen him stand out. Is he a good tackler?
== 6 of 13 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 5 2010 7:04 am
From: Johnctx
graybeard wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 08:00:53 -0600 Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> wrote:
>
>> As for Washington, someone could wreak havoc with the Jets by
>> overpaying him & his agent is as your boy Rahm would say, retarded.
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Is the #2 this year or next?
>
> I'm pretty sure it's this year. If I am the Eagles, I'm thinking that
> Leon could be the perfect replacement for Westbrook.
I really didn't get that they didn't assign him a #1.
If I am the Pats he is a great choice to replace Faulk but BB has never
put any real $ into RB since he showed up in NE.
== 7 of 13 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 5 2010 7:10 am
From: graybeard
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 09:02:19 -0600 Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> wrote:
>graybeard wrote:
>> On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 08:01:28 -0600 Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> wrote:
>>
>>> graybeard wrote:
>>>> I'm baffled as to how Coleman hangs on. I agree that Murrell has more
>>>> upside, and Wright is one of our best ST players.
>>> Wright?
>>
>> I don't understand the question.
>
>One of our best ST?
>
>I guess I haven't seen him stand out. Is he a good tackler?
Wright is one of the very best coverage men and tacklers on special
teams.
--
graybeard
== 8 of 13 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 5 2010 7:15 am
From: graybeard
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 09:04:12 -0600 Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> wrote:
>graybeard wrote:
>> On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 08:00:53 -0600 Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> wrote:
>>
>>> As for Washington, someone could wreak havoc with the Jets by
>>> overpaying him & his agent is as your boy Rahm would say, retarded.
>>>
>>> :)
>>>
>>> Is the #2 this year or next?
>>
>> I'm pretty sure it's this year. If I am the Eagles, I'm thinking that
>> Leon could be the perfect replacement for Westbrook.
>
>I really didn't get that they didn't assign him a #1.
>
>If I am the Pats he is a great choice to replace Faulk but BB has never
>put any real $ into RB since he showed up in NE.
Then again, the Pats do have *three* 2nd round draft picks this year.
--
graybeard
== 9 of 13 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 5 2010 7:23 am
From: Johnctx
graybeard wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 09:02:19 -0600 Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> wrote:
>
>> graybeard wrote:
>>> On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 08:01:28 -0600 Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> graybeard wrote:
>>>>> I'm baffled as to how Coleman hangs on. I agree that Murrell has more
>>>>> upside, and Wright is one of our best ST players.
>>>> Wright?
>>> I don't understand the question.
>> One of our best ST?
>>
>> I guess I haven't seen him stand out. Is he a good tackler?
>
> Wright is one of the very best coverage men and tacklers on special
> teams.
I will watch more closely.
I have noticed Smith's tackling. Maybe because their numbers are close
I was attributing Wright's efforts to Smith.
== 10 of 13 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 5 2010 8:46 am
From: buRford
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 08:01:28 -0600, Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> wrote:
>graybeard wrote:
>> On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:36:03 -0500 buRford <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 12:37:15 -0500, graybeard <graybeard@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Jets have tendered Leon at the 2nd round level, which means any team
>>>> can sign him in exchange for a 2nd round pick, unless the Jets match the
>>>> contact offer. I have to think that there would be a number of teams who
>>>> would think he was worth a 2nd rounder if he can pass their physical.
>>>> The Browns have 11 draft picks. Maybe Eric whispers a few things in
>>>> Holmgren's ear.
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible that the Jets have put themselves in a position where
>>>> last year's number 1 rushing offense in the NFL is reduced to Shonn
>>>> Greene, who has a total of 108 carries in his career and more lost
>>>> fumbles (3) than TD's (2)?
>>>
>>> At the same time, the Jets tendered Braylon at the 1 & 3.
>>> Me... I think Leon's more valuable to the team, even with the risk from his injury.
>>> Braylon still hasn't proven he can play with consistency... or that he can be a team
>>> player (rather than a *me* guy).
>>> They gave Brad Smith the same tender as Leon. I actually think Brad's more valuable than
>>> Braylon.
>>> Lots of strange evaluations going on in Jetslandistan.
>>>
>>>
>>>From Leberfeld:
>>> The Jets announced all their tenders on Thursday and here they are - Braylon Edwards
>>> (first and third), Leon Washington (second), Eric Smith (third), Wayne Hunter (third),
>>> James Ihedigbo (right of first refusal), Brad Smith (second), Drew Coleman (sixth) and
>>> Kellen Clemens (second). The following players weren't tendered - Marques Murrell, Howard
>>> Green and Wallace Wright.
>>>
>>> I'd have tendered Murrell over Coleman, not that a six is anything much. At this point,
>>> it looks like Coleman has some compromising pics of Woody, since two coaching regimes have
>>> kept him around ;)
>>
>> I'm baffled as to how Coleman hangs on. I agree that Murrell has more
>> upside, and Wright is one of our best ST players.
>
>Wright?
Yup. I 2nd Gray's opinion.
Wright's great on STs.
== 11 of 13 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 5 2010 8:49 am
From: buRford
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 08:00:53 -0600, Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> wrote:
>buRford wrote:
>> On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 12:37:15 -0500, graybeard <graybeard@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> The Jets have tendered Leon at the 2nd round level, which means any team
>>> can sign him in exchange for a 2nd round pick, unless the Jets match the
>>> contact offer. I have to think that there would be a number of teams who
>>> would think he was worth a 2nd rounder if he can pass their physical.
>>> The Browns have 11 draft picks. Maybe Eric whispers a few things in
>>> Holmgren's ear.
>>>
>>> Is it possible that the Jets have put themselves in a position where
>>> last year's number 1 rushing offense in the NFL is reduced to Shonn
>>> Greene, who has a total of 108 carries in his career and more lost
>>> fumbles (3) than TD's (2)?
>>
>>
>> At the same time, the Jets tendered Braylon at the 1 & 3.
>> Me... I think Leon's more valuable to the team, even with the risk from his injury.
>> Braylon still hasn't proven he can play with consistency... or that he can be a team
>> player (rather than a *me* guy).
>> They gave Brad Smith the same tender as Leon. I actually think Brad's more valuable than
>> Braylon.
>> Lots of strange evaluations going on in Jetslandistan.
>>
>>
>> From Leberfeld:
>>
>> The Jets announced all their tenders on Thursday and here they are - Braylon Edwards
>> (first and third), Leon Washington (second), Eric Smith (third), Wayne Hunter (third),
>> James Ihedigbo (right of first refusal), Brad Smith (second), Drew Coleman (sixth) and
>> Kellen Clemens (second). The following players weren't tendered - Marques Murrell, Howard
>> Green and Wallace Wright.
>>
>> I'd have tendered Murrell over Coleman, not that a six is anything much. At this point,
>> it looks like Coleman has some compromising pics of Woody, since two coaching regimes have
>> kept him around ;)
>
>After they dropped Murrell several times form the game day roster you
>knew he wasn't long. I like him & hate Coleman so who knows what that
>is about but for the 1st time in 10 years our LBers look like a strength.
>
>As for Washington, someone could wreak havoc with the Jets by
>overpaying him & his agent is as your boy Rahm would say, retarded.
I don't get what they're doing with Leon. I guess they're willing to gamble that they'll
be able to match.
As for Rahm, didn't like him with Bubba, and that hasn't changed ;)
>
>:)
>
>Is the #2 this year or next?
I'd imagine this year.
== 12 of 13 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 5 2010 8:58 am
From: Johnctx
buRford wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 08:00:53 -0600, Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> wrote:
>
>> buRford wrote:
>>> On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 12:37:15 -0500, graybeard <graybeard@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Jets have tendered Leon at the 2nd round level, which means any team
>>>> can sign him in exchange for a 2nd round pick, unless the Jets match the
>>>> contact offer. I have to think that there would be a number of teams who
>>>> would think he was worth a 2nd rounder if he can pass their physical.
>>>> The Browns have 11 draft picks. Maybe Eric whispers a few things in
>>>> Holmgren's ear.
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible that the Jets have put themselves in a position where
>>>> last year's number 1 rushing offense in the NFL is reduced to Shonn
>>>> Greene, who has a total of 108 carries in his career and more lost
>>>> fumbles (3) than TD's (2)?
>>>
>>> At the same time, the Jets tendered Braylon at the 1 & 3.
>>> Me... I think Leon's more valuable to the team, even with the risk from his injury.
>>> Braylon still hasn't proven he can play with consistency... or that he can be a team
>>> player (rather than a *me* guy).
>>> They gave Brad Smith the same tender as Leon. I actually think Brad's more valuable than
>>> Braylon.
>>> Lots of strange evaluations going on in Jetslandistan.
>>>
>>>
>>> From Leberfeld:
>>>
>>> The Jets announced all their tenders on Thursday and here they are - Braylon Edwards
>>> (first and third), Leon Washington (second), Eric Smith (third), Wayne Hunter (third),
>>> James Ihedigbo (right of first refusal), Brad Smith (second), Drew Coleman (sixth) and
>>> Kellen Clemens (second). The following players weren't tendered - Marques Murrell, Howard
>>> Green and Wallace Wright.
>>>
>>> I'd have tendered Murrell over Coleman, not that a six is anything much. At this point,
>>> it looks like Coleman has some compromising pics of Woody, since two coaching regimes have
>>> kept him around ;)
>> After they dropped Murrell several times form the game day roster you
>> knew he wasn't long. I like him & hate Coleman so who knows what that
>> is about but for the 1st time in 10 years our LBers look like a strength.
>>
>> As for Washington, someone could wreak havoc with the Jets by
>> overpaying him & his agent is as your boy Rahm would say, retarded.
>
> I don't get what they're doing with Leon. I guess they're willing to gamble that they'll
> be able to match.
> As for Rahm, didn't like him with Bubba, and that hasn't changed ;)
a poor man's Cheney... my favorite with Rahm & this isn't partisan issue
but a reflection of how both sides could care less what we think-- is
that a guy with a degree in dance leaves the WH for 2 years enters
investment banking. He makes $16 MM & returns to politics.
>
>> :)
>>
>> Is the #2 this year or next?
>
> I'd imagine this year.
I'd lose Smith & Washington for 2 #2's.
== 13 of 13 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 5 2010 9:29 am
From: buRford
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 10:58:15 -0600, Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> wrote:
>buRford wrote:
>> On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 08:00:53 -0600, Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> wrote:
>>
>>> buRford wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 12:37:15 -0500, graybeard <graybeard@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Jets have tendered Leon at the 2nd round level, which means any team
>>>>> can sign him in exchange for a 2nd round pick, unless the Jets match the
>>>>> contact offer. I have to think that there would be a number of teams who
>>>>> would think he was worth a 2nd rounder if he can pass their physical.
>>>>> The Browns have 11 draft picks. Maybe Eric whispers a few things in
>>>>> Holmgren's ear.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it possible that the Jets have put themselves in a position where
>>>>> last year's number 1 rushing offense in the NFL is reduced to Shonn
>>>>> Greene, who has a total of 108 carries in his career and more lost
>>>>> fumbles (3) than TD's (2)?
>>>>
>>>> At the same time, the Jets tendered Braylon at the 1 & 3.
>>>> Me... I think Leon's more valuable to the team, even with the risk from his injury.
>>>> Braylon still hasn't proven he can play with consistency... or that he can be a team
>>>> player (rather than a *me* guy).
>>>> They gave Brad Smith the same tender as Leon. I actually think Brad's more valuable than
>>>> Braylon.
>>>> Lots of strange evaluations going on in Jetslandistan.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From Leberfeld:
>>>>
>>>> The Jets announced all their tenders on Thursday and here they are - Braylon Edwards
>>>> (first and third), Leon Washington (second), Eric Smith (third), Wayne Hunter (third),
>>>> James Ihedigbo (right of first refusal), Brad Smith (second), Drew Coleman (sixth) and
>>>> Kellen Clemens (second). The following players weren't tendered - Marques Murrell, Howard
>>>> Green and Wallace Wright.
>>>>
>>>> I'd have tendered Murrell over Coleman, not that a six is anything much. At this point,
>>>> it looks like Coleman has some compromising pics of Woody, since two coaching regimes have
>>>> kept him around ;)
>>> After they dropped Murrell several times form the game day roster you
>>> knew he wasn't long. I like him & hate Coleman so who knows what that
>>> is about but for the 1st time in 10 years our LBers look like a strength.
>>>
>>> As for Washington, someone could wreak havoc with the Jets by
>>> overpaying him & his agent is as your boy Rahm would say, retarded.
>>
>> I don't get what they're doing with Leon. I guess they're willing to gamble that they'll
>> be able to match.
>> As for Rahm, didn't like him with Bubba, and that hasn't changed ;)
>
>a poor man's Cheney... my favorite with Rahm & this isn't partisan issue
>but a reflection of how both sides could care less what we think-- is
>that a guy with a degree in dance leaves the WH for 2 years enters
>investment banking. He makes $16 MM & returns to politics.
>>
>>> :)
>>>
>>> Is the #2 this year or next?
>>
>> I'd imagine this year.
>
>I'd lose Smith & Washington for 2 #2's.
I'd keep them both, and find an OC that can maximize their talents ;)
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