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* Dear President Obama, - 1 messages, 1 author
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* If......... - 1 messages, 1 author
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* TurbulenceTraining 25$Off - 1 messages, 1 author
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* How much pork or "incentive" was added to the "HC" bill? - 9 messages, 4
authors
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* I'm Suing This Fucktard!! - 1 messages, 1 author
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* I Went To Get My Free Health Care Today..... - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* Death Panel in action - 6 messages, 5 authors
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* It Was Good being An American While It Lasted... - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* New NFL OT rules - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Commie Canadians Silence Free Speech! - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: Dear President Obama,
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 23 2010 8:57 pm
From: "mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu"
My name is Jilly Langston. I am 8 years old. My Daddy has no job and
my family is sad. Mr. President can you please give my daddy a job? I
want to be a cheerleader, but my school says we need to pay $20 for a
cheerleader outfit. My daddy says we don't have the money. Help us
please.
Office of the President of the United States:
Dear Jilly. I am sorry you have difficulties. As President I also have
many issues that affect me.
It seems to me that your "daddy" needs a job. I would like to help
people get jobs but do you realize that there are people that have no
insurance?
We need to help those that have no insurance first. A job is a luxury.
How can your daddy love you if I can't get you a doctor?
You seem to be a selfish little girl asking for a job!!
If your Daddy votes for me I will give him a census taker job or a
position with ACORN.
With regards, President Barack Obama
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TOPIC: If.........
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 24 2010 2:40 am
From: THE King Patriot
If the patriots draft sergio kindle with the 22nd pick, then move up
between the 33-36 pick in the second round and draft golden tate. I
really don't care what they do the rest of the draft. I will be a very
happy PATS fan!!!!!
What does every one think???
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TOPIC: TurbulenceTraining 25$Off
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 24 2010 7:59 am
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TOPIC: How much pork or "incentive" was added to the "HC" bill?
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== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 24 2010 8:12 am
From: Husky
So far I heard, for his vote, a CT pol got a few hundred million for a
new Hosp.
There were other payoffs for votes. Can anyone add to the list? TIA
== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 24 2010 8:39 am
From: MBD
Husky <cynsguy@gmail.com> wrote in news:d51fbfa7-eb5b-432a-898a-
fa17a11a3f59@z4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:
> So far I heard, for his vote, a CT pol got a few hundred million for a
> new Hosp.
> There were other payoffs for votes. Can anyone add to the list? TIA
Not to worry, you'll be hearing about them from the Republican
Congresspeople soon enough. They vowed to expose those who had their vote
bought well before the November elections.
MBD
== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 24 2010 8:51 am
From: "MWB"
Mike " LUNCH PAIL" Michaud DEM - MAINE held out until the last minute.
I think there will a new road project in Northern MAINE.
I know he got something.
GO RED SOX NATION
Mark
== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 24 2010 12:08 pm
From: DW
On Mar 24, 11:12 am, Husky <cyns...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So far I heard, for his vote, a CT pol got a few hundred million for a
> new Hosp.
> There were other payoffs for votes. Can anyone add to the list? TIA
Don't forget the Billions of dollars the republicans tack onto
defense bills for guns that don't shoot, planes that don't fly, etc.
Yes it could be your son that gets killed through faulty equipment
purchased by the republicans.
== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 24 2010 12:10 pm
From: DW
On Mar 24, 11:39 am, MBD <M...@MBD.com> wrote:
> Husky <cyns...@gmail.com> wrote in news:d51fbfa7-eb5b-432a-898a-
> fa17a11a3...@z4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:
>
> > So far I heard, for his vote, a CT pol got a few hundred million for a
> > new Hosp.
> > There were other payoffs for votes. Can anyone add to the list? TIA
>
> Not to worry, you'll be hearing about them from the Republican
> Congresspeople soon enough. They vowed to expose those who had their vote
> bought well before the November elections.
>
> MBD
of course don't forget that alot of the republicans had their votes
bought and
paid for by big pharm, big medical, and big insurance.
Most of the republicans are owned by big insurance, big medical, and
big pharm..
== 6 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 24 2010 12:58 pm
From: Husky
On Mar 24, 3:08 pm, DW <DrWoodardO...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 24, 11:12 am, Husky <cyns...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > So far I heard, for his vote, a CT pol got a few hundred million for a
> > new Hosp.
> > There were other payoffs for votes. Can anyone add to the list? TIA
>
> Don't forget the Billions of dollars the republicans tack onto
> defense bills for guns that don't shoot, planes that don't fly, etc.
>
> Yes it could be your son that gets killed through faulty equipment
> purchased by the republicans.
What's your point? If it's that pols of both parties are crooks,
FINE. Otherwise, admit that there has been
some spectacular bribery and coercion going around the HC Bill or just
stfu. TIA
== 7 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 24 2010 1:27 pm
From: MBD
DW <DrWoodardOnDS@hotmail.com> wrote in news:d3513215-54f6-4bac-9422-
80a3b483ddf2@z3g2000yqz.googlegroups.com:
> On Mar 24, 11:39�am, MBD <M...@MBD.com> wrote:
>> Husky <cyns...@gmail.com> wrote in news:d51fbfa7-eb5b-432a-898a-
>> fa17a11a3...@z4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > So far I heard, for his vote, a CT pol got a few hundred million for
a
>> > new Hosp.
>> > There were other payoffs for votes. Can anyone add to the list? TIA
>>
>> Not to worry, you'll be hearing about them from the Republican
>> Congresspeople soon enough. �They vowed to expose those who had their
v
> ote
>> bought well before the November elections.
>>
>> MBD
>
> of course don't forget that alot of the republicans had their votes
> bought and
> paid for by big pharm, big medical, and big insurance.
>
> Most of the republicans are owned by big insurance, big medical, and
> big pharm..
While the Dems are owned by the lawyers, AARP, and the unions.
MBD
== 8 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 24 2010 1:45 pm
From: Husky
On Mar 24, 4:27 pm, MBD <M...@MBD.com> wrote:
> DW <DrWoodardO...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:d3513215-54f6-4bac-9422-
> 80a3b483d...@z3g2000yqz.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 24, 11:39 am, MBD <M...@MBD.com> wrote:
> >> Husky <cyns...@gmail.com> wrote in news:d51fbfa7-eb5b-432a-898a-
> >> fa17a11a3...@z4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:
>
> >> > So far I heard, for his vote, a CT pol got a few hundred million for
> a
> >> > new Hosp.
> >> > There were other payoffs for votes. Can anyone add to the list? TIA
>
> >> Not to worry, you'll be hearing about them from the Republican
> >> Congresspeople soon enough. They vowed to expose those who had their
> v
> > ote
> >> bought well before the November elections.
>
> >> MBD
>
> > of course don't forget that alot of the republicans had their votes
> > bought and
> > paid for by big pharm, big medical, and big insurance.
>
> > Most of the republicans are owned by big insurance, big medical, and
> > big pharm..
>
> While the Dems are owned by the lawyers, AARP, and the unions.
>
> MBD
What's your point? If it's that pols of both parties are crooks,
FINE. Otherwise, admit that there has been
some spectacular bribery and coercion going around the HC Bill or just
stfu. TIA
== 9 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 24 2010 2:33 pm
From: MBD
Husky <cynsguy@gmail.com> wrote in
news:fceb083f-56db-41c8-ba83-9fac0cafa56f@j21g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:
> On Mar 24, 4:27 pm, MBD <M...@MBD.com> wrote:
>> DW <DrWoodardO...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:d3513215-54f6-4bac-9422-
>> 80a3b483d...@z3g2000yqz.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Mar 24, 11:39 am, MBD <M...@MBD.com> wrote:
>> >> Husky <cyns...@gmail.com> wrote in news:d51fbfa7-eb5b-432a-898a-
>> >> fa17a11a3...@z4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> >> > So far I heard, for his vote, a CT pol got a few hundred million
>> >> > for
>> a
>> >> > new Hosp.
>> >> > There were other payoffs for votes. Can anyone add to the list?
>> >> > TIA
>>
>> >> Not to worry, you'll be hearing about them from the Republican
>> >> Congresspeople soon enough. They vowed to expose those who had
>> >> their
>> v
>> > ote
>> >> bought well before the November elections.
>>
>> >> MBD
>>
>> > of course don't forget that alot of the republicans had their votes
>> > bought and
>> > paid for by big pharm, big medical, and big insurance.
>>
>> > Most of the republicans are owned by big insurance, big medical,
>> > and big pharm..
>>
>> While the Dems are owned by the lawyers, AARP, and the unions.
>>
>> MBD
>
> What's your point? If it's that pols of both parties are crooks,
> FINE. Otherwise, admit that there has been
> some spectacular bribery and coercion going around the HC Bill or just
> stfu. TIA
Yes both parties are crooks. The difference here is that this health
care bill was not supported by the majority of Americans, yet the Dems
went totally partisan in their attempts to ram it through, using every
arcane method they could to get it done. In other bills that were
passed, the public supported it and/or there was some bipartisanship in
voting for them. Not a single Republican voted for this, and 34 Dems
(13.4%) voted against it.
MBD
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TOPIC: I'm Suing This Fucktard!!
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Date: Wed, Mar 24 2010 9:53 am
From: "MuahMan"
"mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu" <fosterfla@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> User:Mrdude
> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
> Jump to: navigation, search
> A recent representation of Jacob
>
> MrDude (born 1983-11-16 Denver, Colorado) is the pseudonym for Jacob
> Gest, a 22 year old human who currently resides in Springfield,
> Missouri. Jacob Gest uses this moniker on most Internet communities,
> although the use of burningraycob or jakegest is also common
>
> I have been "mr dude" for at least a dozen years!
>
> This kid's going down!!!
>
> mr dude
You don't make $200K in your mom's basement so you won't have to worry about
higher taxes.
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TOPIC: I Went To Get My Free Health Care Today.....
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 24 2010 9:57 am
From: "MuahMan"
"mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu" <fosterfla@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> .....and they told me it wasn't "free" and I would not get it for four
> years!!!!
>
> I mean WTF!!!! My President said "This cannot wait. We need health
> care reform now!"
>
> Further I was told that the government was raising my taxes NOW for
> something I won't get for fucking four years!!
>
> If I bought a car and they told me to start making payments now but I
> can't get the car for four years I would kick the shit out of the auto
> dealer! Whose ass do I need to kick in the government for this??
>
> Also I asked since I am paying more for my "free" health care now that
> I will surely be getting better health care than I am now in four
> years, the nurses laughed me out of the doctor's office.
>
> mr dude (confused)
>
You don't make $200K in your mom's basement so you won't have to worry about
higher taxes.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 24 2010 12:14 pm
From: DW
On Mar 22, 7:56 pm, "mr d...@harvarduniversity.edu"
<foster...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Also I asked since I am paying more for my "free" health care now that
> I will surely be getting better health care than I am now in four
> years, the nurses laughed me out of the doctor's office.
You do realize that prior to signing the bill you were paying more
than
a thousand dollars for the uninsured. And that was before the bill
was
signed yesterday.
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TOPIC: Death Panel in action
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 24 2010 12:56 pm
From: "Ray OHara"
http://www.philly.com/dailynews/columnists/ronnie_polaneczky/78297217.html
LOOKING at Kyler VanNocker, whose fifth birthday was Monday, it's impossible
to fathom that he could die from the disease he's battling.
He's bright-eyed and energetic as he tears around the house he shares in
Edgewater Park, N.J., with his parents, Paul and Maria, and siblings Kaden,
6, and Anelise, 3. He's just as active at pre-school, where he's learning
his numbers and the alphabet.
But the truth is, Kyler has neuroblastoma, a rare and deadly form of
childhood cancer that attacks the nervous system, creating tumors throughout
the body. Diagnosed at 2 1/2, he endured more than a year of treatment at
both St. Christopher's Hospital for Children and at Children's Hospital of
Philadelphia.
His longest hospital stay lasted almost seven months, during which he nearly
died twice from complications that caused kidney failure, as well as heart,
lung and liver disease. Finally, he went into remission in September 2008
and reveled in a healthy year blessed with the mundane miracles of
childhood.
And Paul and Maria allowed themselves to exhale.
Ten weeks ago, routine follow-up tests indicated that Kyler's cancer had
returned. This time, his treatment options are few, since recurrent
neuroblastoma brings with it an entirely different set of medical
considerations than the ones associated with an initial diagnosis.
Kyler's CHOP oncologist, Stephan Grupp, says that Kyler needs a treatment
called MIBG therapy, in which a radioactive drug, delivered intravenously,
travels to tumor sites, slamming them with radiation.
Depending on how Kyler responds, he may need up to three rounds of MIBG to
knock his cancer back into remission.
MIBG is "less toxic than chemotherapy, and is usually tolerated well by
patients," says Grupp, a world expert in neuroblastoma, thanks to CHOP's
status as a national referral center for kids with the rare disease. MIBG
therapy is the only effective treatment available to Kyler at this stage of
his illness. Without it, he won't live to see his sixth birthday.
Unbelievably, Kyler's insurance carrier, Harrisburg-based HealthAmerica, has
denied coverage for the treatment, which it considers
"investigational/experimental" because there is "inadequate evidence in the
peer-reviewed published clinical literature regarding its effectiveness."
The therapy is not approved by the Food and Drug Administration, another
criterion that HealthAmerica requires.
"It's considered experimental because not enough kids with recurring
neuroblastoma live long enough" to become candidates for MIBG, says Paul
VanNocker, 44, a heavy-industrial-equipment salesman (Maria, 37, is a
homemaker). "So, really, all treatment at this stage of Kyler's disease is
considered experimental."
Only about 650 children in the United States are diagnosed each year with
neuroblastoma. Half of them, including Kyler, have the most lethal form of
the disease. So it's tough to study a large enough cohort of patients like
Kyler to yield research results that HealthAmerica might consider valid.
But that doesn't mean MIBG is ineffective.
"It's considered the standard of care in Europe and the United States for
recurrent neuroblastoma," says Grupp. "It's not an unproven treatment with
no basis in medical science. Actually, the results are often very good."
Paul VanNocker appealed HealthAmerica's decision, which once again denied
MIBG.
"They have a plan for Kyler," says Paul angrily. "Their plan is for him to
die."
HealthAmerica spokeswoman Kendall Marcocci told me that she was not
permitted to divulge the amount of money the company has paid so far for
Kyler's treatment, but Paul VanNocker says that the figure is between $1.6
million and $1.8 million. He was not sure what Kyler's MIBG therapy would
cost, since it's unclear how many MIBG treatments Kyler might require, but
Grupp says that the treatment is actually less expensive than other cancer
therapies.
Which seems to support Marcocci's contention that HealthAmerica has declined
Kyler's MIBG therapy not because of its cost, but because of its
experimental nature. Marcocci wouldn't discuss specifics of Kyler's case but
said the company isn't in the business of treating patients; it instead
applies a "medical-based-evidence approach" to determining whether a
requested treatment is a covered benefit. Except that, by denying the only
effective treatment available to Kyler, HealthAmerica has usurped the
opinion of the doctor who knows what Kyler needs to survive.
Sorry, but that absolutely puts the company in the business of treating
patients.
I have to say, when I hear people fret that a public insurance option would
take medical decisions out of doctors' hands and place them in the mitts of
bloodless bureaucrats, I have to scratch my head.
Do they not understand that bloodless bureaucrats are already in control?
And that the "death panels" everyone fears already exist in the insurance
industry?
To deny Kyler coverage is to prescribe his death.
Last week, CHOP agreed to proceed with Kyler's first MIBG procedure,
assuming that Medi-caid will pick up the tab. He withstood the procedure
well and is back at school, happy to be among his playmates again.
If Medicaid doesn't come through, the VanNockers have no savings to pay for
additional MIBG procedures that Kyler might need to stay alive, because the
out-of-pocket costs associated with Kyler's illness have left them bankrupt.
Paul estimates that he and Maria have spent "well over $60,000" of their own
money - exhausting cash savings, IRAs and almost every asset but their home
to pay expenses not covered by insurance.
"If Kyler can't have MIBG, he will have to enter hospice care," says Paul.
"He'll have a good month, and then he will lose the ability to walk. Then he
will become bedridden. And then he will die a slow, agonizing death."
MIBG is the only option to postpone that terrible possibility for as long as
possible.
But the death panel's decision, it seems, is final.
== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 24 2010 12:20 pm
From: Smithee
On Mar 24, 3:56 pm, "Ray OHara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.philly.com/dailynews/columnists/ronnie_polaneczky/78297217...
>
> LOOKING at Kyler VanNocker, whose fifth birthday was Monday, it's impossible
> to fathom that he could die from the disease he's battling.
>
> He's bright-eyed and energetic as he tears around the house he shares in
> Edgewater Park, N.J., with his parents, Paul and Maria, and siblings Kaden,
> 6, and Anelise, 3. He's just as active at pre-school, where he's learning
> his numbers and the alphabet.
>
> But the truth is, Kyler has neuroblastoma, a rare and deadly form of
> childhood cancer that attacks the nervous system, creating tumors throughout
> the body. Diagnosed at 2 1/2, he endured more than a year of treatment at
> both St. Christopher's Hospital for Children and at Children's Hospital of
> Philadelphia.
>
> His longest hospital stay lasted almost seven months, during which he nearly
> died twice from complications that caused kidney failure, as well as heart,
> lung and liver disease. Finally, he went into remission in September 2008
> and reveled in a healthy year blessed with the mundane miracles of
> childhood.
>
> And Paul and Maria allowed themselves to exhale.
>
> Ten weeks ago, routine follow-up tests indicated that Kyler's cancer had
> returned. This time, his treatment options are few, since recurrent
> neuroblastoma brings with it an entirely different set of medical
> considerations than the ones associated with an initial diagnosis.
>
> Kyler's CHOP oncologist, Stephan Grupp, says that Kyler needs a treatment
> called MIBG therapy, in which a radioactive drug, delivered intravenously,
> travels to tumor sites, slamming them with radiation.
>
> Depending on how Kyler responds, he may need up to three rounds of MIBG to
> knock his cancer back into remission.
>
> MIBG is "less toxic than chemotherapy, and is usually tolerated well by
> patients," says Grupp, a world expert in neuroblastoma, thanks to CHOP's
> status as a national referral center for kids with the rare disease. MIBG
> therapy is the only effective treatment available to Kyler at this stage of
> his illness. Without it, he won't live to see his sixth birthday.
>
> Unbelievably, Kyler's insurance carrier, Harrisburg-based HealthAmerica, has
> denied coverage for the treatment, which it considers
> "investigational/experimental" because there is "inadequate evidence in the
> peer-reviewed published clinical literature regarding its effectiveness."
>
> The therapy is not approved by the Food and Drug Administration, another
> criterion that HealthAmerica requires.
>
> "It's considered experimental because not enough kids with recurring
> neuroblastoma live long enough" to become candidates for MIBG, says Paul
> VanNocker, 44, a heavy-industrial-equipment salesman (Maria, 37, is a
> homemaker). "So, really, all treatment at this stage of Kyler's disease is
> considered experimental."
>
> Only about 650 children in the United States are diagnosed each year with
> neuroblastoma. Half of them, including Kyler, have the most lethal form of
> the disease. So it's tough to study a large enough cohort of patients like
> Kyler to yield research results that HealthAmerica might consider valid.
>
> But that doesn't mean MIBG is ineffective.
>
> "It's considered the standard of care in Europe and the United States for
> recurrent neuroblastoma," says Grupp. "It's not an unproven treatment with
> no basis in medical science. Actually, the results are often very good."
>
> Paul VanNocker appealed HealthAmerica's decision, which once again denied
> MIBG.
>
> "They have a plan for Kyler," says Paul angrily. "Their plan is for him to
> die."
>
> HealthAmerica spokeswoman Kendall Marcocci told me that she was not
> permitted to divulge the amount of money the company has paid so far for
> Kyler's treatment, but Paul VanNocker says that the figure is between $1.6
> million and $1.8 million. He was not sure what Kyler's MIBG therapy would
> cost, since it's unclear how many MIBG treatments Kyler might require, but
> Grupp says that the treatment is actually less expensive than other cancer
> therapies.
>
> Which seems to support Marcocci's contention that HealthAmerica has declined
> Kyler's MIBG therapy not because of its cost, but because of its
> experimental nature. Marcocci wouldn't discuss specifics of Kyler's case but
> said the company isn't in the business of treating patients; it instead
> applies a "medical-based-evidence approach" to determining whether a
> requested treatment is a covered benefit. Except that, by denying the only
> effective treatment available to Kyler, HealthAmerica has usurped the
> opinion of the doctor who knows what Kyler needs to survive.
>
> Sorry, but that absolutely puts the company in the business of treating
> patients.
>
> I have to say, when I hear people fret that a public insurance option would
> take medical decisions out of doctors' hands and place them in the mitts of
> bloodless bureaucrats, I have to scratch my head.
>
> Do they not understand that bloodless bureaucrats are already in control?
> And that the "death panels" everyone fears already exist in the insurance
> industry?
>
> To deny Kyler coverage is to prescribe his death.
>
> Last week, CHOP agreed to proceed with Kyler's first MIBG procedure,
> assuming that Medi-caid will pick up the tab. He withstood the procedure
> well and is back at school, happy to be among his playmates again.
>
> If Medicaid doesn't come through, the VanNockers have no savings to pay for
> additional MIBG procedures that Kyler might need to stay alive, because the
> out-of-pocket costs associated with Kyler's illness have left them bankrupt.
> Paul estimates that he and Maria have spent "well over $60,000" of their own
> money - exhausting cash savings, IRAs and almost every asset but their home
> to pay expenses not covered by insurance.
>
> "If Kyler can't have MIBG, he will have to enter hospice care," says Paul.
> "He'll have a good month, and then he will lose the ability to walk. Then he
> will become bedridden. And then he will die a slow, agonizing death."
>
> MIBG is the only option to postpone that terrible possibility for as long as
> possible.
>
> But the death panel's decision, it seems, is final.
Ray, you're just one of those liberals. "Waah!' Waah! My kid is
dying! Waah! Waah!" Liberal whiner! Don't you liberals understand
that what's important is that millionaires like Curt Schilling gets
tax cuts, not that dying children get health care? THAT'S what's
important in America, dammit!
== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 24 2010 3:10 pm
From: Polarhound
Ray OHara wrote:
> The therapy is not approved by the Food and Drug Administration
The truth comes through, albeit ELEVEN paragraphs down, well after the
Chicken Littles like yourself stop reading.
If the FDA hasn't approved it, then neither will your precious
Socialized Medicine clusterfuck cover it.
I do hear they are starting to cover rectalcranial inversions though..
perhaps you should look into that procedure.
== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 24 2010 4:51 pm
From: "mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu"
On Mar 24, 3:56 pm, "Ray OHara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> The therapy is not approved by the Food and Drug Administration, another
> criterion that HealthAmerica requires.
The Imperial Federal government kills another child!!!
Wait till Obama care, kids will be dropping dead of the common
cold!!!!
mr dude
== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 24 2010 8:22 pm
From: "MuahMan"
"mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu" <fosterfla@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e138c3e6-f010-405c-a395-4fac34661473@u9g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 24, 3:56 pm, "Ray OHara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> The therapy is not approved by the Food and Drug Administration, another
>> criterion that HealthAmerica requires.
>
> The Imperial Federal government kills another child!!!
>
> Wait till Obama care, kids will be dropping dead of the common
> cold!!!!
>
> mr dude
>
>
>
You don't make $200K in your mom's basement so you won't have to worry about
higher taxes.
== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 24 2010 8:31 pm
From: "mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu"
On Mar 24, 11:22 pm, "MuahMan" <muah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You don't make $200K in your mom's basement so you won't have to worry about
> higher taxes.
I make over $2000,00 in your Mom's basement.
I swear besides her Meth skills, she is a Super Hooker!!!
mr dude
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TOPIC: It Was Good being An American While It Lasted...
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 24 2010 1:00 pm
From: "Ray OHara"
"Polarhound" <polarhound@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:gL7qn.106644$1n5.94099@newsfe04.iad...
> Ray O'Hara wrote:
>
>> I'm sure you can provide a cite for that claim.
>> why do you wingnuts always resort to lies
>
> Not our fault the truth hurts you so much.
you fucking moron those weren't my posts they are Husky's you fucking moron.
learn to use the usenet
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 24 2010 3:06 pm
From: Polarhound
Ray OHara wrote:
> "Polarhound" <polarhound@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:gL7qn.106644$1n5.94099@newsfe04.iad...
>> Ray O'Hara wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sure you can provide a cite for that claim.
>>> why do you wingnuts always resort to lies
>> Not our fault the truth hurts you so much.
>
> you fucking moron those weren't my posts they are Husky's you fucking moron.
> learn to use the usenet
>
>
The headers say otherwise:
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> "Husky" <cynsguy@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5f8e06c0-934d-41c3-8a6a-4ffa955969fd@d37g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 22, 3:00 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "Husky" <cyns...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:7cbdb477-a5e5-4c39-8389-6107461a7daa@19g2000yqu.googlegroups.com...
>> On Mar 22, 11:58 am, DW <DrWoodardO...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Mar 21, 7:40 pm, "mr d...@harvarduniversity.edu"<foster...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > > The good news, is that abortions will be free provided by you the
>> > > taxpayer
>>
>> > Wrong they aren't covered.
>>
>> > But then if men could get pregnant there would be a constitutional
>> > amendment
>> > guaranteeing a free quick and safe abortion through the nineth month.
>>
>> > > Now you are fucking furious because you know that YOU are paying for
>> > > THEIR health care and you know that they broke the law to enter YOUR
>> > > country illegally!
>>
>> > And this was before health care reform passed.
>>
>> > > Then you hear that your child's grandmother has fallen ill and the
>> > > government won't pay for her operation.
>>
>> > Those are the infamous death panels otherwise known as the
>> > insurance company.
>>
>> This is all percipitated by lawyers. The Pols (Both parties) refused
>> to address Tort reform, over the years, allowing it to grow into the
>> beast it is, today.
>> I'm curious how much "health care" money goes to lawyers.
>>
>> ==================================================================================
>>
>> if it was you or your kid and the doctor screwed up you'd be at the
>> laeyers
>> office in a flash.
>>
>> look up the "pinto memo"http://www.calbaptist.edu/dskubik/pinto.htm
>
> But not asking for a Million for a chipped nail. A lot of this is
> directly connected to Greedy people.
> If you want to talk about ridiculous verdicts, that'll take another
> thread!
>
>
> =====================================================================
>
> I'm sure you can provide a cite for that claim.
> why do you wingnuts always resort to lies
>
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TOPIC: New NFL OT rules
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 24 2010 7:07 pm
From: "Ray OHara"
the new rule will be if the team that wins the toss kicks a field goal the
other team gets the ball.
a TD still ends the game sudden death and after the first possesion an FG
does too.
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TOPIC: Commie Canadians Silence Free Speech!
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 24 2010 8:29 pm
From: "mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu"
Poor Anne Coulter!
It is time America addressed it's "Commie Neighbor To The North"
problem!!!
Time to nuke those fucking Canadian Communists!!
mr dude (fuck Canada)
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