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TOPIC: Ghent Wevelgem
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/a9dee3db9b1564a6?hl=en
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== 1 of 14 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 31 2010 10:39 pm
From: Fredmaster of Brainerd
On Mar 31, 9:56 pm, Magilla Gorilla <m.gori...@sandiegozoo.org> wrote:
>
> Second, how would Benjo know what goes on given that to make such bets is an explicit UCI
> rule violation? That's really fraud. It's the baseball equivalent of Pete Rose betting on
> baseball.
Right, and no rider ever hangs on to a bottle longer
than necessary while taking a bottle from the car
on an uphill. Or drafts cars in the caravan while
returning to the peloton. Because those are rule
violations.
Fredmaster
== 2 of 14 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 1 2010 7:11 am
From: Magilla Gorilla
Fredmaster of Brainerd wrote:
> On Mar 31, 9:56�pm, Magilla Gorilla <m.gori...@sandiegozoo.org> wrote:
> >
> > Second, how would Benjo know what goes on given that to make such bets is an explicit UCI
> > rule violation? �That's really fraud. �It's the baseball equivalent of Pete Rose betting on
> > baseball. �
>
> Right, and no rider ever hangs on to a bottle longer
> than necessary while taking a bottle from the car
> on an uphill. Or drafts cars in the caravan while
> returning to the peloton. Because those are rule
> violations.
>
> Fredmaster
Hey dumbass,
There are rules and then there are rules. Hanging onto a bottle is not a big deal because the
advantage gained is negligible, if any. It's also a violation to wear a wrinkled race number.
But that's not the same thing as testing positive for EPO, now is it?
Stop being a fucking idiot. All rules are not the same. And throwing a race for money is
considered a career ending offense in any sport if you are caught. Holding onto a water bottle
to get back to a neutral position in the peloton is not.
Magilla
== 3 of 14 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 1 2010 7:14 am
From: Mark
On Apr 1, 1:39 am, Fredmaster of Brainerd <bjwei...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 31, 9:56 pm, Magilla Gorilla <m.gori...@sandiegozoo.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Second, how would Benjo know what goes on given that to make such bets is an explicit UCI
> > rule violation? That's really fraud. It's the baseball equivalent of Pete Rose betting on
> > baseball.
>
> Right, and no rider ever hangs on to a bottle longer
> than necessary while taking a bottle from the car
> on an uphill. Or drafts cars in the caravan while
> returning to the peloton. Because those are rule
> violations.
>
> Fredmaster
That's a different magnitude of fraud than throwing the final result
of a race. I get the impression that all sports have no tolerance for
fraud committed in the heat of the battle that directly affects the
final outcome.
== 4 of 14 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 1 2010 7:36 am
From: Fred Flintstein
Mark wrote:
> On Apr 1, 1:39 am, Fredmaster of Brainerd <bjwei...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mar 31, 9:56 pm, Magilla Gorilla <m.gori...@sandiegozoo.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Second, how would Benjo know what goes on given that to make such bets is an explicit UCI
>>> rule violation? That's really fraud. It's the baseball equivalent of Pete Rose betting on
>>> baseball.
>> Right, and no rider ever hangs on to a bottle longer
>> than necessary while taking a bottle from the car
>> on an uphill. Or drafts cars in the caravan while
>> returning to the peloton. Because those are rule
>> violations.
>>
>> Fredmaster
>
> That's a different magnitude of fraud than throwing the final result
> of a race. I get the impression that all sports have no tolerance for
> fraud committed in the heat of the battle that directly affects the
> final outcome.
If that impression is coming from the ape then consider the
source.
If you have a copy of stage 19 of the 2005 Giro, Simoni vs
Savoldelli from the Colle della Finestre to the finish in
Sestriere, that's a good example. The Giro was on the line
and both Simoni and Savoldelli were isolated from teammates.
Each of them engaged in discussions with riders in the lead
group (and old Peugeot teammates Yates and Peiper back in
the team cars).
The description is here:
http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/road/2005//giro05/?id=results/giro0519
The end result was tactically fascinating. Much more
interesting than reading some ape retard yammer away while
typing with one hand.
Fred Flintstein
== 5 of 14 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 1 2010 7:38 am
From: Fred Flintstein
Magilla Gorilla wrote:
> Fredmaster of Brainerd wrote:
>
>> On Mar 31, 9:56 pm, Magilla Gorilla <m.gori...@sandiegozoo.org> wrote:
>>> Second, how would Benjo know what goes on given that to make such bets is an explicit UCI
>>> rule violation? That's really fraud. It's the baseball equivalent of Pete Rose betting on
>>> baseball.
>> Right, and no rider ever hangs on to a bottle longer
>> than necessary while taking a bottle from the car
>> on an uphill. Or drafts cars in the caravan while
>> returning to the peloton. Because those are rule
>> violations.
>>
>> Fredmaster
>
> Hey dumbass,
>
> There are rules and then there are rules. Hanging onto a bottle is not a big deal because the
> advantage gained is negligible, if any. It's also a violation to wear a wrinkled race number.
> But that's not the same thing as testing positive for EPO, now is it?
>
> Stop being a fucking idiot. All rules are not the same. And throwing a race for money is
> considered a career ending offense in any sport if you are caught. Holding onto a water bottle
> to get back to a neutral position in the peloton is not.
>
> Magilla
You know, when I asked whether we are to believe Benjo or you on
this, that was a rhetorical question. Dumbass.
Fred Flintstein
== 6 of 14 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 1 2010 8:44 am
From: Magilla Gorilla
Fred Flintstein wrote:
> Mark wrote:
> > On Apr 1, 1:39 am, Fredmaster of Brainerd <bjwei...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Mar 31, 9:56 pm, Magilla Gorilla <m.gori...@sandiegozoo.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Second, how would Benjo know what goes on given that to make such bets is an explicit UCI
> >>> rule violation? That's really fraud. It's the baseball equivalent of Pete Rose betting on
> >>> baseball.
> >> Right, and no rider ever hangs on to a bottle longer
> >> than necessary while taking a bottle from the car
> >> on an uphill. Or drafts cars in the caravan while
> >> returning to the peloton. Because those are rule
> >> violations.
> >>
> >> Fredmaster
> >
> > That's a different magnitude of fraud than throwing the final result
> > of a race. I get the impression that all sports have no tolerance for
> > fraud committed in the heat of the battle that directly affects the
> > final outcome.
>
> If that impression is coming from the ape then consider the
> source.
>
Hey Dickweed,
In any sport, if you are caught throwing a game, it is grounds for a lifelong suspension and
banishment from the Hall of Fame. Ever heard of Pete Rose? Has nothing to do with my opinion.
It's a fact.
>
> If you have a copy of stage 19 of the 2005 Giro, Simoni vs
> Savoldelli from the Colle della Finestre to the finish in
> Sestriere, that's a good example. The Giro was on the line
> and both Simoni and Savoldelli were isolated from teammates.
> Each of them engaged in discussions with riders in the lead
> group (and old Peugeot teammates Yates and Peiper back in
> the team cars).
>
> The description is here:
> http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/road/2005//giro05/?id=results/giro0519
>
> The end result was tactically fascinating. Much more
> interesting than reading some ape retard yammer away while
> typing with one hand.
>
> Fred Flintstein
And all cyclists in that incident admit that no money was ever exchanged and that nobody threw any
stage. So this example actually disapproves what you say. Or, are you talking about virtual
race fixing?
Thanks,
Magilla
== 7 of 14 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 1 2010 9:00 am
From: curtis@the-md-russells.org
On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 10:11:33 -0400, Magilla Gorilla
<m.gorilla@sandiegozoo.org> wrote:
>And throwing a race for money is
>considered a career ending offense in any sport if you are caught.
The critical issue is whether or not he threw the race. If a rider
surmises he has no chance of winning the sprint, he can't 'throw the
race'. He can only choose to alter the outcome, one way or the other.
That a person in that situation chooses to alter the outcome toward a
friend that may pay it back later in similar circumstances, rather
than give it to someone that gives a rat ass or simply race stupidly
as if he could win when he can't, is hardly a difficult concept to
accept. In fact, giving the race to someone who may pay it back
arguably gives more to the team than a third place on the podium or
just having fourth and being two bike lengths closer.
Given your earlier comments (assuming this is the same chimp) about
places other than first and stupid, vainglorious attempts at places
that are unreachable, I would have expected you to agree with the
logic.
This is entirely different than a sprinter with a chance throwing the
win to a competitor. Hincapie had no chance in a finish with two or
more better close-in sprinters. He took a shot, saw it lost and gave
what he had to someone else. Maybe. Don't really know.
I would also toss out the bone of why is your logic different from
openly discussed stage wins given by the GC competitors. The
illegality of it would not change a hair just because LA may be going
for an overall GC and tossing (depending on who's talking) a stage win
to The Pirate. Really don't need to see you worry that one to death,
why one applies and the other does not. But since that is openly
discussed and no threats of fines tossed about, the UCI apparently
sees some room for flexibility here.
Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
== 8 of 14 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 1 2010 9:37 am
From: Amit Ghosh
On Apr 1, 11:44 am, Magilla Gorilla <m.gori...@sandiegozoo.org> wrote:
> And all cyclists in that incident admit that no money was ever exchanged and that nobody threw any
> stage. So this example actually disapproves what you say. Or, are you talking about virtual
> race fixing?
dumbass,
hincapie didn't throw the race, because he wasn't going to win anyway.
a more plausible scenario would be that eisel (the faster guy) would
sell the race to hincapie (the older richer pro).
i don't know what happens at the protour level, but in lower levels
riders do sell races - usually an amateur or low level pro (who wants
the money) will sell out to a older pro. catching it is almost
impossible. i only know of one case where a 'deal' between riders/
teams was penalized - that was because one of the riders bragged about
it on an internet board.
i've seen all kinds of blatant cheating, so what makes it magic that
taking bribes would be so sacred.
== 9 of 14 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 1 2010 10:16 am
From: Fredmaster of Brainerd
On Apr 1, 7:14 am, Mark <msamb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 1, 1:39 am, Fredmaster of Brainerd <bjwei...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 31, 9:56 pm, Magilla Gorilla <m.gori...@sandiegozoo.org> wrote:
>
> > > Second, how would Benjo know what goes on given that to make such bets is an explicit UCI
> > > rule violation? That's really fraud. It's the baseball equivalent of Pete Rose betting on
> > > baseball.
>
> > Right, and no rider ever hangs on to a bottle longer
> > than necessary while taking a bottle from the car
> > on an uphill. Or drafts cars in the caravan while
> > returning to the peloton. Because those are rule
> > violations.
>
> > Fredmaster
>
> That's a different magnitude of fraud than throwing the final result
> of a race. I get the impression that all sports have no tolerance for
> fraud committed in the heat of the battle that directly affects the
> final outcome.
Do you really think Hincapie could have beaten Eisel
in a straight-up sprint, but sold him the race? Then
join Magilla in the Delusional Georgie Fan Club.
If on the other hand Eisel (or his DS) negotiated a
lead-out from Hincapie, is that really different than
cases where, for example, a team with no obvious
sprinter puts two guys on the front to bring back a
break, or people in a second group help the race
leader chase down an escape with no obvious
benefit to themselves? (IIRC, there was a clear
incident of this in a recent Giro.) It's not fraud, it's
not throwing a race. It may not be pretty, especially
if you harbor the fantasy that the strongest guy always
wins, not the smartest. On the other hand, that's
what makes bike racing interesting. Except to Magilla.
Of course, there is no actual proof that Hincapie
actually deliberately did Eisel a favor.
Fredmaster Ben
== 10 of 14 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 1 2010 10:34 am
From: Mark
On Apr 1, 1:16 pm, Fredmaster of Brainerd <bjwei...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Do you really think Hincapie could have beaten Eisel
> in a straight-up sprint, but sold him the race? Then
> join Magilla in the Delusional Georgie Fan Club.
>
> If on the other hand Eisel (or his DS) negotiated a
> lead-out from Hincapie, is that really different than
> cases where, for example, a team with no obvious
> sprinter puts two guys on the front to bring back a
> break, or people in a second group help the race
> leader chase down an escape with no obvious
> benefit to themselves? (IIRC, there was a clear
> incident of this in a recent Giro.) It's not fraud, it's
> not throwing a race. It may not be pretty, especially
> if you harbor the fantasy that the strongest guy always
> wins, not the smartest. On the other hand, that's
> what makes bike racing interesting. Except to Magilla.
>
> Of course, there is no actual proof that Hincapie
> actually deliberately did Eisel a favor.
>
> Fredmaster Ben
>
Fair enough. If you were in George's cleats after the final selection
with 10 km to go, what would you have done?
== 11 of 14 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 1 2010 11:02 am
From: Michael Press
In article <4BB4A996.EABC5E92@sandiegozoo.org>,
Magilla Gorilla <m.gorilla@sandiegozoo.org> wrote:
> Fredmaster of Brainerd wrote:
>
> > On Mar 31, 9:56 pm, Magilla Gorilla <m.gori...@sandiegozoo.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Second, how would Benjo know what goes on given that to make such bets is an explicit UCI
> > > rule violation? That's really fraud. It's the baseball equivalent of Pete Rose betting on
> > > baseball.
> >
> > Right, and no rider ever hangs on to a bottle longer
> > than necessary while taking a bottle from the car
> > on an uphill. Or drafts cars in the caravan while
> > returning to the peloton. Because those are rule
> > violations.
> >
> > Fredmaster
>
> Hey dumbass,
>
> There are rules and then there are rules. Hanging onto a bottle is not a big deal because the
> advantage gained is negligible, if any. It's also a violation to wear a wrinkled race number.
> But that's not the same thing as testing positive for EPO, now is it?
>
> Stop being a fucking idiot. All rules are not the same. And throwing a race for money is
> considered a career ending offense in any sport if you are caught. Holding onto a water bottle
> to get back to a neutral position in the peloton is not.
You claim that there is no evidence for favors bought
and paid for in a race so it does not happen. Then you
cite UCI rules prohibiting such behavior, with
penalties. Do you see a connection?
--
Michael Press
== 12 of 14 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 1 2010 11:29 am
From: Fred Flintstein
Magilla Gorilla wrote:
> And all cyclists in that incident admit that no money was ever exchanged and that nobody threw any
> stage. So this example actually disapproves what you say. Or, are you talking about virtual
> race fixing?
Retard,
Jesus Fucking Christ. Benjo asked one of them, and was told
the terms. Just like years ago Adri van der Poel told him
how many guilders Liege-Bastogne-Liege was worth.
Fred Flintstein
== 13 of 14 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 1 2010 11:42 am
From: Magilla Gorilla
curtis@the-md-russells.org wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 10:11:33 -0400, Magilla Gorilla
> <m.gorilla@sandiegozoo.org> wrote:
>
> >And throwing a race for money is
> >considered a career ending offense in any sport if you are caught.
>
> The critical issue is whether or not he threw the race. If a rider
> surmises he has no chance of winning the sprint, he can't 'throw the
> race'. He can only choose to alter the outcome, one way or the other.
> That a person in that situation chooses to alter the outcome toward a
> friend that may pay it back later in similar circumstances, rather
> than give it to someone that gives a rat ass or simply race stupidly
> as if he could win when he can't, is hardly a difficult concept to
> accept. In fact, giving the race to someone who may pay it back
> arguably gives more to the team than a third place on the podium or
> just having fourth and being two bike lengths closer.
>
> Given your earlier comments (assuming this is the same chimp) about
> places other than first and stupid, vainglorious attempts at places
> that are unreachable, I would have expected you to agree with the
> logic.
>
> This is entirely different than a sprinter with a chance throwing the
> win to a competitor. Hincapie had no chance in a finish with two or
> more better close-in sprinters. He took a shot, saw it lost and gave
> what he had to someone else. Maybe. Don't really know.
>
> I would also toss out the bone of why is your logic different from
> openly discussed stage wins given by the GC competitors. The
> illegality of it would not change a hair just because LA may be going
> for an overall GC and tossing (depending on who's talking) a stage win
> to The Pirate. Really don't need to see you worry that one to death,
> why one applies and the other does not. But since that is openly
> discussed and no threats of fines tossed about, the UCI apparently
> sees some room for flexibility here.
>
> Curtis L. Russell
> Odenton, MD (USA)
> Just someone on two wheels...
You dumbass,
There's no such thing as "winning" a stage in a stage race. Nobody
throws the GC. Crossing the line first on a stage in a stage race is a
meaningless act unless you are going for GC. It's like winning a point
in tennis and claiming that although you lost the match you "won" 189
points.
In every stage race there needs to be about 37 "winners" in cycling in
order to satisfy the pussified mentality of the people in this sport who
otherwise would not be able to deal with losing so often.
Thanks,
Magilla
== 14 of 14 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 1 2010 11:43 am
From: Magilla Gorilla
Michael Press wrote:
> In article <4BB4A996.EABC5E92@sandiegozoo.org>,
> Magilla Gorilla <m.gorilla@sandiegozoo.org> wrote:
>
> > Fredmaster of Brainerd wrote:
> >
> > > On Mar 31, 9:56 pm, Magilla Gorilla <m.gori...@sandiegozoo.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Second, how would Benjo know what goes on given that to make such bets is an explicit UCI
> > > > rule violation? That's really fraud. It's the baseball equivalent of Pete Rose betting on
> > > > baseball.
> > >
> > > Right, and no rider ever hangs on to a bottle longer
> > > than necessary while taking a bottle from the car
> > > on an uphill. Or drafts cars in the caravan while
> > > returning to the peloton. Because those are rule
> > > violations.
> > >
> > > Fredmaster
> >
> > Hey dumbass,
> >
> > There are rules and then there are rules. Hanging onto a bottle is not a big deal because the
> > advantage gained is negligible, if any. It's also a violation to wear a wrinkled race number.
> > But that's not the same thing as testing positive for EPO, now is it?
> >
> > Stop being a fucking idiot. All rules are not the same. And throwing a race for money is
> > considered a career ending offense in any sport if you are caught. Holding onto a water bottle
> > to get back to a neutral position in the peloton is not.
>
> You claim that there is no evidence for favors bought
> and paid for in a race so it does not happen. Then you
> cite UCI rules prohibiting such behavior, with
> penalties. Do you see a connection?
>
> --
> Michael Press
Not really.
When was the last time that rule was enforced?
Magilla
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TOPIC: WTF, LIVEDRUNK edition
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 1 2010 1:37 am
From: Betty Munro
Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> rbr is so easily tittellated.
Or titrated.
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TOPIC: nice fucking lid
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 1 2010 1:47 am
From: Betty Munro
Jason Spaceman wrote:
> Still sporting his Paul Weller do I see. He must be a fan of dad rock.
<http://www.facebook.com/apps/application.php?id=48316235976>
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TOPIC: Cyclingnews is gay
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 1 2010 4:48 am
From: kirby
On Apr 1, 12:36 am, Magilla Gorilla <m.gori...@sandiegozoo.org> wrote:
> Does anybody know why the cycling websites think it's funny to run these
> April Fool's articles? I don't know of any other reputable news
> publication that does this. And what's really fucking retarded is that
> since one does it the other does it too.
>
> It's like 5th graders are in charge of Velonews and Cyclingnews. Very
> embarrassing.
>
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/glam-gossip-and-generalities
>
> Thanks,
>
> Magilla
curmudgeon. lighten up
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 1 2010 6:11 am
From: "z, fred"
kirby wrote:
> On Apr 1, 12:36 am, Magilla Gorilla <m.gori...@sandiegozoo.org> wrote:
>> Does anybody know why the cycling websites think it's funny to run these
>> April Fool's articles? I don't know of any other reputable news
>> publication that does this. And what's really fucking retarded is that
>> since one does it the other does it too.
>>
>> It's like 5th graders are in charge of Velonews and Cyclingnews. Very
>> embarrassing.
>>
>> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/glam-gossip-and-generalities
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Magilla
>
> curmudgeon. lighten up
Will the 'brothers team' hire Pawel and Kacper Szczepaniak?
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 1 2010 6:25 am
From: "Mexican Low Rider Mafia"
"kirby" <michael.kirby@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:080e318c-2a24-4ae7-ba94-66fca8c1bbf4@g10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 1, 12:36 am, Magilla Gorilla <m.gori...@sandiegozoo.org> wrote:
> Does anybody know why the cycling websites think it's funny to run these
> April Fool's articles? I don't know of any other reputable news
> publication that does this. And what's really fucking retarded is that
> since one does it the other does it too.
>
> It's like 5th graders are in charge of Velonews and Cyclingnews. Very
> embarrassing.
>
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/glam-gossip-and-generalities
>
> Thanks,
>
> Magilla
curmudgeon. lighten up
It takes one to know one.
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 1 2010 7:00 am
From: Magilla Gorilla
kirby wrote:
> On Apr 1, 12:36 am, Magilla Gorilla <m.gori...@sandiegozoo.org> wrote:
> > Does anybody know why the cycling websites think it's funny to run these
> > April Fool's articles? I don't know of any other reputable news
> > publication that does this. And what's really fucking retarded is that
> > since one does it the other does it too.
> >
> > It's like 5th graders are in charge of Velonews and Cyclingnews. Very
> > embarrassing.
> >
> > http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/glam-gossip-and-generalities
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Magilla
>
> curmudgeon. lighten up
You sound like a pothead who watches sitcoms and laughs at them like a studio
audience.
Magilla
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TOPIC: Sheldon rises from the dead
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 1 2010 7:41 am
From: dave a
RIP my friend
http://sheldonbrown.com/cellar.html
- dave a
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TOPIC: Sports headline you know isn't about LANCE
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 1 2010 8:32 am
From: "A. Dumas Fred"
Op 31-03-10 21:37, Robert Fred wrote:
> "Twins player hits mom with foul ball."
Haha!
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TOPIC: Liz Hatch not selected again for World Cup race
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 1 2010 9:06 am
From: curtis@the-md-russells.org
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:34:25 -0700, "GoneBeforeMyTime"
<Fans@EuroFans.com> wrote:
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> "Magilla Gorilla" <m.gorilla@sandiegozoo.org> wrote in message news:4BB41FDA.31CB6538@sandiegozoo.org...
> >What a joke.
>
> >Magilla
>
> I can't recall anything that bad before, and almost the whole friggin USA team.
I can remember a few, some way worse, but most were because of an
officials' call, usually for safety. Screwed up finish layouts, with
stragglers wandering into the fast lane, is a good reason for waving
off half a field or more. First hot day in Texas or Oklahoma can do
it, too.
Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 1 2010 1:01 pm
From: Brad Anders
On Mar 31, 10:34 pm, "GoneBeforeMyTime" <F...@EuroFans.com> wrote:
> "Magilla Gorilla" <m.gori...@sandiegozoo.org> wrote in messagenews:4BB41FDA.31CB6538@sandiegozoo.org...
> >What a joke.
>
> >Magilla
>
> I can't recall anything that bad before, and almost the whole friggin USA team.
I seem to remember a number of World's RR's where we only had one or
two riders finish. Mari had a hell of a streak going for a while in
the RR.
Brad Anders
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 1 2010 12:33 pm
From: Fred Flintstein
I'm at the track, riding a Madison. I'm heading for an
exchange with my partner. My partner is Liz Hatch.
Liz is not an experienced Madison rider, and her exchange
timing is wrong. We are not going to exchange on the
straight like we are supposed to, it'll happen on the
turn. If you do the handsling correctly you transfer
the maximum amount of kinetic energy. The incoming
rider accelerates like they are shot out of a cannon,
the rider coming out instantly drops a load of speed.
If this happens on a turn it can cause problems for the
rider coming out. You don't want to exchange on a turn.
As I approach the exchange point I realize there is
another way to perform a legal Madison exchange. I
zero in on her can, wind up and *WHAP*!!!
I spank her while accelerating in a velodrome turn.
Fred Flintstein
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