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== 1 of 18 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 6 2010 9:37 pm
From: Johnny Morongo


MZ wrote:

>>
>> best pizza... chicago and brooklyn with honorable mention to north
>> NJ. worst pizza: florida and california... they dont have the water
>> for it.
>
> Best corned beef sandwich I ever had was at an irish pub in downtown
> Chicago. I'll try to remember the name. Pizza rules there too.
>
> I'm not native like most of you guys are, so this is probably blasphemy,
> but I'm not too keen on NYC food from what I've had. Got good italian
> last time I was down there, but you can get good italian anywhere. I
> guess the delis are supposed to be good and that sort of thing? And
> magnolia is awesome. But I'll take Chicago or even DC over NY. And
> most of the south has it all over you guys. :)

The South??? Are you kidding? Talk to the hand! What are you bona
fides to speak of the south in the same breath as NYC or Chicago? And
have you ever been to San Francisco? Southern fry this.


== 2 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 7 2010 6:39 am
From: graybeard


On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 23:19:14 -0400 "yoyodog" <NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>"buRford" <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
>news:13snr55tmk1muoc6f1doasqcrpe4cp7m49@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 18:50:59 -0400, "yoyodog" <NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>Reminded you of Katz' deli in NY?
>>>
>>
>> Uh, Katz'... the best. Of course, a Pastrami sandwich there, is close to
>> 20 bucks now.
>
>$14.95 but still about 3 inches thick :-)
>http://tinyurl.com/yb838bd

Plus the tip you give to the slicer to give you the good stuff ;-)

But thanks for posting that menu link. NOT. Now, in addition to the
pastrami (ordered very fatty of course), I have a serious jones for
authentic bagels, a lox and onions omelette, a chocolate egg cream
(preferably made with Fox's U-bet syrup), kishka, a real New York hot
dog, potato latkes, a Dr. Brown's cream soda (never could get into the
Cel-Ray), cheese blintzes... I think I'm about to cry like a little
girl. Good thing I'm going to be on Long Island on Monday and Tuesday of
next week. I've heard that they might have a couple of Jewish style
delis out there too.
--
graybeard


== 3 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 7 2010 7:11 am
From: "yoyodog"

"graybeard" <graybeard@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:l60pr5999ugtlcfdnqvnj36hf2ge0nv2jd@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 23:19:14 -0400 "yoyodog" <NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"buRford" <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
>>news:13snr55tmk1muoc6f1doasqcrpe4cp7m49@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 18:50:59 -0400, "yoyodog" <NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>Reminded you of Katz' deli in NY?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Uh, Katz'... the best. Of course, a Pastrami sandwich there, is close
>>> to
>>> 20 bucks now.
>>
>>$14.95 but still about 3 inches thick :-)
>>http://tinyurl.com/yb838bd
>
> Plus the tip you give to the slicer to give you the good stuff ;-)
>
> But thanks for posting that menu link. NOT. Now, in addition to the
> pastrami (ordered very fatty of course), I have a serious jones for
> authentic bagels, a lox and onions omelette, a chocolate egg cream
> (preferably made with Fox's U-bet syrup), kishka, a real New York hot
> dog, potato latkes, a Dr. Brown's cream soda (never could get into the
> Cel-Ray), cheese blintzes... I think I'm about to cry like a little
> girl. Good thing I'm going to be on Long Island on Monday and Tuesday of
> next week. I've heard that they might have a couple of Jewish style
> delis out there too.
> --
> graybeard

It's my pleasure to tickle your taste buds gray... but that's ALL I tickle!


== 4 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 7 2010 7:21 am
From: "papa.carl44"

"MZ" <mark@nospam.void> wrote in message
news:m7GdnQmBI_6afCbWnZ2dnUVZ_oOsnZ2d@giganews.com...
> Michael wrote:
>> On Apr 6, 6:12 pm, "papa.carl44" <papadotc...@nospamverizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>> "Johnctx" <j...@spamtx.net> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:2Zidndn0AY2GOibWnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Up here in New England, there are things that pass for falafel, and
>>>>> there are things that pass for pastrami. I don't much miss the
>>>>> falafel,
>>>>> but having lived for some years in New York City, I would kill for a
>>>>> genuine hot pastrami on rye with Swiss cheese and deli mustard, not to
>>>>> mention a good half sour pickle on the side.
>>>> Why is that?
>>>> Why does the pastrami & corned beef taste better in NYC?
>>>> Don't get me started on pizza.
>>> It does'nt taste better....it IS better. They know how to make it.
>>> But,
>>> the Pizza in Jersey is the best ! And around the Trenton area...the
>>> Tomato
>>> Pie is awesome.
>>
>> best pizza... chicago and brooklyn with honorable mention to north
>> NJ. worst pizza: florida and california... they dont have the water
>> for it.
>
> Best corned beef sandwich I ever had was at an irish pub in downtown
> Chicago. I'll try to remember the name. Pizza rules there too.
>
> I'm not native like most of you guys are, so this is probably blasphemy,
> but I'm not too keen on NYC food from what I've had. Got good italian
> last time I was down there, but you can get good italian anywhere. I
> guess the delis are supposed to be good and that sort of thing? And
> magnolia is awesome. But I'll take Chicago or even DC over NY. And most
> of the south has it all over you guys. :)

My wife is from North Carolina...we used to go down there and the Pizza was
some bread crap with spaghetti sauce and ground beef on it. Now, they have
a small chain of "Jersey Pizza" stores in town. IF, and if you like certain
Southern food...it's good, I like it when we go visit, but half of my weight
problems came from eating it regularly when she cooks it, and she can cook
it really well. Grits every morning, fried chicken, lots of collard greens,
and mustard greens and kale. But her chicken and dumplings can't be
beat...plus she makes a very good smoked pulled pork...I got into the smoker
thing and she does the rest....but still....NYC food is fantastic, and
Central Jersey thin crust tomato pies ! I can eat Italian and Mediteranean
forever....the Southern stuff gets me sick in a hurry.


== 5 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 7 2010 7:44 am
From: Johnctx

>
> best pizza... chicago and brooklyn with honorable mention to north
> NJ. worst pizza: florida and california... they dont have the water
> for it.

Chicago, ugh, too much f***ing cheese.

I'll have to try NJ next time I am there. I crack up that people from
the Bronx that re in Westchester & Rockland swear they can taste the
difference.

Do I dare start talking about egg creams?

:)


== 6 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 7 2010 7:47 am
From: Johnctx


buRford wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 16:27:55 -0500, Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> wrote:
>
>>> Up here in New England, there are things that pass for falafel, and
>>> there are things that pass for pastrami. I don't much miss the falafel,
>>> but having lived for some years in New York City, I would kill for a
>>> genuine hot pastrami on rye with Swiss cheese and deli mustard, not to
>>> mention a good half sour pickle on the side.
>> Why is that?
>>
>> Why does the pastrami & corned beef taste better in NYC?
>>
>> Don't get me started on pizza.
>
> First signs of senility, Jc... you've forgotten ;)

huh?

:)


== 7 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 7 2010 7:53 am
From: Johnctx


Johnny Morongo wrote:
> MZ wrote:
>
>>>
>>> best pizza... chicago and brooklyn with honorable mention to north
>>> NJ. worst pizza: florida and california... they dont have the water
>>> for it.
>>
>> Best corned beef sandwich I ever had was at an irish pub in downtown
>> Chicago. I'll try to remember the name. Pizza rules there too.
>>
>> I'm not native like most of you guys are, so this is probably
>> blasphemy, but I'm not too keen on NYC food from what I've had. Got
>> good italian last time I was down there, but you can get good italian
>> anywhere. I guess the delis are supposed to be good and that sort of
>> thing? And magnolia is awesome. But I'll take Chicago or even DC
>> over NY. And most of the south has it all over you guys. :)
>
> The South??? Are you kidding? Talk to the hand! What are you bona
> fides to speak of the south in the same breath as NYC or Chicago? And
> have you ever been to San Francisco? Southern fry this.

You mean like New Orleans?

You can get a great meal in most big towns. You have to pay attention
in Florida because most restaurant suck.

Steakhouses piss me off.

While I am at it I have a question. I tip 20% in cheaper restaurants
and bars. The waiter would have to be atrocious not to get 20% from me
because they just don''t make as much. I have a problem at high end
restaurants with similar, often less work, tipping 20% on 250-300 meal
especially if wine = $100 of the bill. Unless I am a regular then I tip
because I know I will get seated.

Thoughts?


== 8 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 7 2010 8:32 am
From: graybeard


On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 09:44:37 -0500 Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> wrote:

>
>>
>> best pizza... chicago and brooklyn with honorable mention to north
>> NJ. worst pizza: florida and california... they dont have the water
>> for it.
>
>Chicago, ugh, too much f***ing cheese.
>
>I'll have to try NJ next time I am there. I crack up that people from
>the Bronx that re in Westchester & Rockland swear they can taste the
>difference.
>
>Do I dare start talking about egg creams?
>
>:)

Or bagels?
--
graybeard


== 9 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 7 2010 8:40 am
From: "yoyodog"

"graybeard" <graybeard@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:q29pr5p769ri8gv2kp4su6opovphtgtfji@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 09:44:37 -0500 Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>>
>>> best pizza... chicago and brooklyn with honorable mention to north
>>> NJ. worst pizza: florida and california... they dont have the water
>>> for it.
>>
>>Chicago, ugh, too much f***ing cheese.
>>
>>I'll have to try NJ next time I am there. I crack up that people from
>>the Bronx that re in Westchester & Rockland swear they can taste the
>>difference.
>>
>>Do I dare start talking about egg creams?
>>
>>:)
>
> Or bagels?
> --
> graybeard

Bagels? Ever been to Montreal? Those are more like a real Eastern European
bagel unlike the very bready NY bagels... Yup, Montreal of all places...
http://tinyurl.com/2l8ws8

== 10 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 7 2010 9:30 am
From: graybeard


On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 09:53:48 -0500 Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> wrote:

>While I am at it I have a question. I tip 20% in cheaper restaurants
>and bars. The waiter would have to be atrocious not to get 20% from me
>because they just don''t make as much. I have a problem at high end
>restaurants with similar, often less work, tipping 20% on 250-300 meal
>especially if wine = $100 of the bill. Unless I am a regular then I tip
>because I know I will get seated.
>
>Thoughts?

I generally tip in the 18-20% range depending on the circumstances,
sometimes a bit more for truly outstanding service. For a low cost meal
the percentage goes out the window, for example, if my breakfast only
comes to $11 and my table service was good, I will leave a $3 tip.
Expensive meals are always a tough call, since you tend to think you are
rewarding the server just because the restaurant has high prices. If
it's a large party, then 20% because obviously the server has to do more
work, but if it is only the 2 of us for $250, then I have no problem
rounding up to 16 or 17%. I rarely leave a substandard tip, and then it
has to be due to the server's attitude, not the quality of the food.
--
graybeard


== 11 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 7 2010 9:36 am
From: "yoyodog"

"graybeard" <graybeard@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:ve9pr5tf0jstjnprptn0rl1qd9n7buh0di@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 09:53:48 -0500 Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> wrote:
>
>>While I am at it I have a question. I tip 20% in cheaper restaurants
>>and bars. The waiter would have to be atrocious not to get 20% from me
>>because they just don''t make as much. I have a problem at high end
>>restaurants with similar, often less work, tipping 20% on 250-300 meal
>>especially if wine = $100 of the bill. Unless I am a regular then I tip
>>because I know I will get seated.
>>
>>Thoughts?
>
> I generally tip in the 18-20% range depending on the circumstances,
> sometimes a bit more for truly outstanding service. For a low cost meal
> the percentage goes out the window, for example, if my breakfast only
> comes to $11 and my table service was good, I will leave a $3 tip.
> Expensive meals are always a tough call, since you tend to think you are
> rewarding the server just because the restaurant has high prices. If
> it's a large party, then 20% because obviously the server has to do more
> work, but if it is only the 2 of us for $250, then I have no problem
> rounding up to 16 or 17%. I rarely leave a substandard tip, and then it
> has to be due to the server's attitude, not the quality of the food.
> --
> graybeard

If you feel 20% is too much, in NYC an easy calc is to double the tax and
round off upwards to the nearest dollar.

A $30.00 dollar lunch bill is $32.48 with tax (@ 8.25%) so that works out to
$2.48 X2 and rounded off to 5 bux. Works out to around 17-18%.


== 12 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 7 2010 9:38 am
From: graybeard


On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 11:40:03 -0400 "yoyodog" <NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>"graybeard" <graybeard@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>news:q29pr5p769ri8gv2kp4su6opovphtgtfji@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 09:44:37 -0500 Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> best pizza... chicago and brooklyn with honorable mention to north
>>>> NJ. worst pizza: florida and california... they dont have the water
>>>> for it.
>>>
>>>Chicago, ugh, too much f***ing cheese.
>>>
>>>I'll have to try NJ next time I am there. I crack up that people from
>>>the Bronx that re in Westchester & Rockland swear they can taste the
>>>difference.
>>>
>>>Do I dare start talking about egg creams?
>>>
>>>:)
>>
>> Or bagels?
>> --
>> graybeard
>
>Bagels? Ever been to Montreal? Those are more like a real Eastern European
>bagel unlike the very bready NY bagels... Yup, Montreal of all places...
>http://tinyurl.com/2l8ws8


Montreal, huh? I wonder if they ship? Actually, I have the New York
Times recipe for home-made bagels which are supposed to be terrific. I
must get around to trying that some day soon.
--
graybeard


== 13 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 7 2010 9:42 am
From: graybeard


On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 12:36:20 -0400 "yoyodog" <NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>"graybeard" <graybeard@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>news:ve9pr5tf0jstjnprptn0rl1qd9n7buh0di@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 09:53:48 -0500 Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> wrote:
>>
>>>While I am at it I have a question. I tip 20% in cheaper restaurants
>>>and bars. The waiter would have to be atrocious not to get 20% from me
>>>because they just don''t make as much. I have a problem at high end
>>>restaurants with similar, often less work, tipping 20% on 250-300 meal
>>>especially if wine = $100 of the bill. Unless I am a regular then I tip
>>>because I know I will get seated.
>>>
>>>Thoughts?
>>
>> I generally tip in the 18-20% range depending on the circumstances,
>> sometimes a bit more for truly outstanding service. For a low cost meal
>> the percentage goes out the window, for example, if my breakfast only
>> comes to $11 and my table service was good, I will leave a $3 tip.
>> Expensive meals are always a tough call, since you tend to think you are
>> rewarding the server just because the restaurant has high prices. If
>> it's a large party, then 20% because obviously the server has to do more
>> work, but if it is only the 2 of us for $250, then I have no problem
>> rounding up to 16 or 17%. I rarely leave a substandard tip, and then it
>> has to be due to the server's attitude, not the quality of the food.
>> --
>> graybeard
>
>If you feel 20% is too much, in NYC an easy calc is to double the tax and
>round off upwards to the nearest dollar.
>
>A $30.00 dollar lunch bill is $32.48 with tax (@ 8.25%) so that works out to
>$2.48 X2 and rounded off to 5 bux. Works out to around 17-18%.

Similarly here. Tax is 5%, so I just triple it and add a bit more.
--
graybeard


== 14 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 7 2010 1:57 pm
From: buRford


On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 09:47:25 -0500, Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> wrote:

>buRford wrote:
>> On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 16:27:55 -0500, Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> Up here in New England, there are things that pass for falafel, and
>>>> there are things that pass for pastrami. I don't much miss the falafel,
>>>> but having lived for some years in New York City, I would kill for a
>>>> genuine hot pastrami on rye with Swiss cheese and deli mustard, not to
>>>> mention a good half sour pickle on the side.
>>> Why is that?
>>>
>>> Why does the pastrami & corned beef taste better in NYC?
>>>
>>> Don't get me started on pizza.
>>
>> First signs of senility, Jc... you've forgotten ;)
>
>huh?
>
>:)

I forgot what I was going to say... oh well ;)


== 15 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 7 2010 1:57 pm
From: buRford


On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 23:11:16 -0400, MZ <mark@nospam.void> wrote:

>buRford wrote:
>> On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:33:58 -0400, MZ <mark@nospam.void> wrote:
>>
>>> Michael wrote:
>>>> On Apr 6, 6:12 pm, "papa.carl44" <papadotc...@nospamverizon.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> "Johnctx" <j...@spamtx.net> wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>> news:2Zidndn0AY2GOibWnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Up here in New England, there are things that pass for falafel, and
>>>>>>> there are things that pass for pastrami. I don't much miss the falafel,
>>>>>>> but having lived for some years in New York City, I would kill for a
>>>>>>> genuine hot pastrami on rye with Swiss cheese and deli mustard, not to
>>>>>>> mention a good half sour pickle on the side.
>>>>>> Why is that?
>>>>>> Why does the pastrami & corned beef taste better in NYC?
>>>>>> Don't get me started on pizza.
>>>>> It does'nt taste better....it IS better. They know how to make it. But,
>>>>> the Pizza in Jersey is the best ! And around the Trenton area...the Tomato
>>>>> Pie is awesome.
>>>> best pizza... chicago and brooklyn with honorable mention to north
>>>> NJ. worst pizza: florida and california... they dont have the water
>>>> for it.
>>> Best corned beef sandwich I ever had was at an irish pub in downtown
>>> Chicago. I'll try to remember the name. Pizza rules there too.
>>>
>>> I'm not native like most of you guys are, so this is probably blasphemy,
>>> but I'm not too keen on NYC food from what I've had. Got good italian
>>> last time I was down there, but you can get good italian anywhere. I
>>> guess the delis are supposed to be good and that sort of thing? And
>>> magnolia is awesome. But I'll take Chicago or even DC over NY. And
>>> most of the south has it all over you guys. :)
>>
>> You must hit the tourist spots, when in NYC.
>> Of course, it all depends on what type of food you want, but for me, and I've travelled
>> all over, NYC has the best food... whether it's pizza, Pastrami, any ethnic food, or
>> healthier cuisine.
>
>What, pizza's not healthy cuisine?

To some ;)


== 16 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 7 2010 2:02 pm
From: buRford


On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 23:19:14 -0400, "yoyodog" <NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>"buRford" <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
>news:13snr55tmk1muoc6f1doasqcrpe4cp7m49@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 18:50:59 -0400, "yoyodog" <NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>Reminded you of Katz' deli in NY?
>>>
>>
>> Uh, Katz'... the best. Of course, a Pastrami sandwich there, is close to
>> 20 bucks now.
>
>$14.95 but still about 3 inches thick :-)
>http://tinyurl.com/yb838bd
>

Wow, I think they've lowered the price. I was there last year, and it was over $16.
But, then again, I always give a tip to the counter guy...
They'll give ya a whole pastrami in a sandwich, with most of the fat trimmed, for a couple
of bucks on the side.
Well, looks like I'll be heading there this weekend ;)


== 17 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 7 2010 2:05 pm
From: buRford


On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 09:39:41 -0400, graybeard <graybeard@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 23:19:14 -0400 "yoyodog" <NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"buRford" <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
>>news:13snr55tmk1muoc6f1doasqcrpe4cp7m49@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 18:50:59 -0400, "yoyodog" <NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>Reminded you of Katz' deli in NY?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Uh, Katz'... the best. Of course, a Pastrami sandwich there, is close to
>>> 20 bucks now.
>>
>>$14.95 but still about 3 inches thick :-)
>>http://tinyurl.com/yb838bd
>
>Plus the tip you give to the slicer to give you the good stuff ;-)

Yup... just posted about that. And of course, just thinking about it... I'm moving some
plans around this weekend, so I can partake ;)

>
>But thanks for posting that menu link. NOT. Now, in addition to the
>pastrami (ordered very fatty of course), I have a serious jones for
>authentic bagels, a lox and onions omelette, a chocolate egg cream
>(preferably made with Fox's U-bet syrup), kishka, a real New York hot
>dog, potato latkes, a Dr. Brown's cream soda (never could get into the
>Cel-Ray), cheese blintzes... I think I'm about to cry like a little
>girl. Good thing I'm going to be on Long Island on Monday and Tuesday of
>next week. I've heard that they might have a couple of Jewish style
>delis out there too.

Gray, I still make egg creams at home, regularly.
I actually was in a Restaurant supply depot, and saw a gallon of u-Bet for about $4.
It's sitting in my fridge ;)


== 18 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 7 2010 2:06 pm
From: buRford


On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 10:11:23 -0400, "yoyodog" <NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>"graybeard" <graybeard@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>news:l60pr5999ugtlcfdnqvnj36hf2ge0nv2jd@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 23:19:14 -0400 "yoyodog" <NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"buRford" <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
>>>news:13snr55tmk1muoc6f1doasqcrpe4cp7m49@4ax.com...
>>>> On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 18:50:59 -0400, "yoyodog" <NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Reminded you of Katz' deli in NY?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Uh, Katz'... the best. Of course, a Pastrami sandwich there, is close
>>>> to
>>>> 20 bucks now.
>>>
>>>$14.95 but still about 3 inches thick :-)
>>>http://tinyurl.com/yb838bd
>>
>> Plus the tip you give to the slicer to give you the good stuff ;-)
>>
>> But thanks for posting that menu link. NOT. Now, in addition to the
>> pastrami (ordered very fatty of course), I have a serious jones for
>> authentic bagels, a lox and onions omelette, a chocolate egg cream
>> (preferably made with Fox's U-bet syrup), kishka, a real New York hot
>> dog, potato latkes, a Dr. Brown's cream soda (never could get into the
>> Cel-Ray), cheese blintzes... I think I'm about to cry like a little
>> girl. Good thing I'm going to be on Long Island on Monday and Tuesday of
>> next week. I've heard that they might have a couple of Jewish style
>> delis out there too.
>> --
>> graybeard
>
>It's my pleasure to tickle your taste buds gray... but that's ALL I tickle!
>


Oh... sorry to interrupt you guys. I'm outta here ;)

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Now Jason Taylor?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/bcd77fff9d283614?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 7 2010 7:19 am
From: Demetrios


John Clayton reports that Jason Taylor is in to visit.

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5063035

Not that I am quite ready to "I told you so", but he mentions in there
the Jets had been planning this eagerly awaiting the loss of a UFA so
they could sign him under the new rules.

If he's got anything left, I gladly trade Jay Feely for Jason Taylor.
As long as the J-E-T-S chant doesn't continue to make him sick...

D.


== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 7 2010 7:47 am
From: Tutor


On Apr 7, 10:19 am, Demetrios <hestian...@gmail.com> wrote:
> John Clayton reports that Jason Taylor is in to visit.
>
> http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5063035
>
> Not that I am quite ready to "I told you so", but he mentions in there
> the Jets had been planning this eagerly awaiting the loss of a UFA so
> they could sign him under the new rules.
>
> If he's got anything left, I gladly trade Jay Feely for Jason Taylor.
> As long as the J-E-T-S chant doesn't continue to make him sick...
>
> D.

I think I just threw up in my mouth. Then after reading the below
quote, I'm just pissed that the jets would even bring in this prick.
It's an insult to jets fans:

According to the New York Post, the Jets have contacted Jason Taylor
to gauge his interest in coming to the Big Apple, but apparently the
free agent defensive end would rather urinate glass than wear green
and white.

"It'd be very, very, very difficult," Taylor said about signing with
the Jets. "At the end of the day, if I couldn't find a job anywhere
else and the Jets called, I guess I'd have to retire or go play."

The Jets reportedly have contacted Taylor, who played 11 seasons for
the Dolphins before joining the Redskins last season.

During his time in Miami, the six-time Pro Bowler ripped the Jets
repeatedly and threw gas on the rivalry between the two teams. The
Patriots also are looking at Taylor, and yesterday Taylor admitted he
has been talking to the Dolphins about a possible return.

"I never said it wouldn't be difficult to play for either, but the
Jets are the Jets," Taylor said. "I've had a lot of history saying bad
things about Jets fans. The fireman hat guy and all of those people in
New York that are Jets fans aren't the ones working on Wall Street.
I've said all of those things, so I've got to leave it at that."

Taylor is referring to comments he made in 2004 before the Jets played
in Miami. He referenced how he expected many Jets fans to be at the
game, "a bunch of them chanting their [dumb-bleep] chant and all that
other stuff, being the ignorant fans they are. I said it. I don't care
if they get mad at me or not. They don't like me anyway. Quite
frankly, I don't care . . . I'm just being real. I'm telling the
truth."

Okay, a simple "no I would not like to play for the Jets" would have
done just fine but all right…


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 7 2010 8:58 am
From: Coach Lon


On Apr 7, 10:47 am, Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 7, 10:19 am, Demetrios <hestian...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > John Clayton reports that Jason Taylor is in to visit.
>
> >http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5063035
>
> > Not that I am quite ready to "I told you so", but he mentions in there
> > the Jets had been planning this eagerly awaiting the loss of a UFA so
> > they could sign him under the new rules.
>
> > If he's got anything left, I gladly trade Jay Feely for Jason Taylor.
> > As long as the J-E-T-S chant doesn't continue to make him sick...
>
> > D.
>
> I think I just threw up in my mouth.  Then after reading the below
> quote, I'm just pissed that the jets would even bring in this prick.
> It's an insult to jets fans:
>
> According to the New York Post, the Jets have contacted Jason Taylor
> to gauge his interest in coming to the Big Apple, but apparently the
> free agent defensive end would rather urinate glass than wear green
> and white.
>
> "It'd be very, very, very difficult," Taylor said about signing with
> the Jets. "At the end of the day, if I couldn't find a job anywhere
> else and the Jets called, I guess I'd have to retire or go play."
>
> The Jets reportedly have contacted Taylor, who played 11 seasons for
> the Dolphins before joining the Redskins last season.
>
> During his time in Miami, the six-time Pro Bowler ripped the Jets
> repeatedly and threw gas on the rivalry between the two teams. The
> Patriots also are looking at Taylor, and yesterday Taylor admitted he
> has been talking to the Dolphins about a possible return.
>
> "I never said it wouldn't be difficult to play for either, but the
> Jets are the Jets," Taylor said. "I've had a lot of history saying bad
> things about Jets fans. The fireman hat guy and all of those people in
> New York that are Jets fans aren't the ones working on Wall Street.
> I've said all of those things, so I've got to leave it at that."
>
> Taylor is referring to comments he made in 2004 before the Jets played
> in Miami. He referenced how he expected many Jets fans to be at the
> game, "a bunch of them chanting their [dumb-bleep] chant and all that
> other stuff, being the ignorant fans they are. I said it. I don't care
> if they get mad at me or not. They don't like me anyway. Quite
> frankly, I don't care . . . I'm just being real. I'm telling the
> truth."
>
> Okay, a simple "no I would not like to play for the Jets" would have
> done just fine but all right…

I fucking hate him. Even if he has gas left in the tank. I've told
him off at the top of my lungs so many times, that it's something I
want the Jets to avoid.


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 7 2010 9:35 am
From: graybeard


On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 07:19:22 -0700 (PDT) Demetrios <hestiansun@gmail.com>
wrote:

>If he's got anything left, I gladly trade Jay Feely for Jason Taylor.

Maybe ten years ago, but not now.
--
graybeard

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Goodbye Feeley
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/bf19f1dadace560d?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 7 2010 7:46 am
From: Johnctx


buRford wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 14:13:35 -0500, Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> wrote:
>
>> graybeard wrote:
>>> On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 12:11:16 -0400 "papa.carl44"
>>> <papadotcarl@nospamverizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Johnctx" <jc@spamtx.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:LoOdnWpn_fjTrSbWnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>> Tutor wrote:
>>>>>> On Apr 2, 5:50 pm, Harlan Lachman <har...@eeivt.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> It is hard to get broken up over losing a kicker. It is not like he was
>>>>>>> someone we invested a lot in, say a Mike Nugent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The challenge is that we can only sign a UFA Kicker who was not cut who
>>>>>>> makes less than Jay or, we can take someone's leavings.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not sure about this move.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Seems like the FO didn't like his play or his mouth. I hope at the end
>>>>>>> of games it was his play.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> h
>>>>>> You don't understand the economics of this move? The Jets are now
>>>>>> free to sign a FA with an average salary the sae as Feely's (I think
>>>>>> new contract.. $2.5 million?) THat's one for starters. Which kicker
>>>>>> blew it in the playoffs? Feely. Feely played well for the Jets but
>>>>>> let's not deify him. Sure, after Nugent, John Hall and some other
>>>>>> very bad kickers, Feely may hae felt like gold, but his kickoffs were
>>>>>> weak, he choked in the biggest of spots. Now the Jets will piut Folk
>>>>>> against Rackers (who had 94% FG accuracy last year plus injuries) and
>>>>>> also be able to sign at least one decent FA under the Final 8 rules.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't get me wrong. I liked Feely. But in no way am I surprised or
>>>>>> disappointed here. Lets see which FA they bring in. Could get a nice
>>>>>> player and certainly a good back up for a position at that price.
>>>>> Tutor if they can get a guy who makes almost all of his kicks inside the
>>>>> 40 I am a happy man. A guy who can make it 40+ like Feely and place it
>>>>> where he wants on KO's would be nice.
>>>>>
>>>>> It could work out but I don't like the gamble.
>>>> Again, I agree with John. Given the history of Jet's kickers, it would have
>>>> been nice to stay with a guy who did it most of the time, seemed to be a
>>>> real team player and competitor. This has become such an important part of
>>>> the game I don't think it they should assume they will find someone. It
>>>> could be a huge gamble.
>>> I just don't understand Tannenbaum's thinking on this, unless he is
>>> under orders from Woody to keep his spending down.
>>>
>>> Both Ryan and Westhoff called Feeley after the season and told him they
>>> wanted him back.
>>>
>>> Feeley was not asking for a big raise, and in fact he signed with
>>> Arizona for about the same salary as he made last year, $1.5 million per
>>> year for 2 years.
>>>
>>> Feeley is known as a good clubhouse presence, a team guy, and a fierce
>>> competitor who actually likes tackling. I can recall several instances
>>> when he saved field position and possibly a score by tackling the
>>> returner.
>>>
>>> I gained a lot of respect for him when he stepped in at the last second
>>> to handle the punting, despite the fact that he had never punted before.
>>> Punting is completely different from place kicking, and if you are not
>>> in condition to do it you can easily pull a groin muscle - I know
>>> because it happened to me. And he actually did a great job of keeping
>>> the Jets out of trouble.
>>>
>>> It's been reported that Tannenbaum actually asked Feeley to take a pay
>>> cut. Huh???
>>>
>>> Despite Tutor's characterization of choking in playoff games, Feeley was
>>> 1 for 1 in the Wild Card game, 1 for 1 in the Divisional game, and 1 for
>>> 3 in the Conference game. The two FG's he missed against the Colts were
>>> not exactly chip shots, one was 44 yards and the other was 52 yards. And
>>> I believe the Jets lost by a lot more than those 6 points.
>>>
>>> I believe Tutor is incorrect on Rackers' status before signing with the
>>> Texans. Rackers was a UFA, just like Feeley, and we can only sign a UFA
>>> for no more than the $1.5 million Feeley got from the Cards. I have to
>>> think that was a factor in being unable to sign Rackers. I also feel
>>> that for that kind of money we will not find a UFA who would give us as
>>> much value as Feeley would have for that amount.
>>>
>>> I sure hope Folk turns it back around, and shows that he can kick in the
>>> hostile NJ winter, but right now I'm very nervous about the place
>>> kicking situation.
>>>
>>> But then, I believe Nugent is still out there ;-)
>> If he could kick off I would bring him in and i am serious. He was
>> perfect inside the 30 & never missed more than 2 /year inside the 40 but
>> his kick offs were high but never out of the end zone. If he was low
>> pick instead of #2 we would not be as harsh on him.
>>
>> With this offense we need to get 3 every time we within the 30. I will
>> always take the sure kicker inside the 40 over the guy who is more
>> likely to shank that kick & make the 55 yarder.
>
> Yeah... but you forget his bad streaks, when he'd go south for a while.
> As a last resort, maybe ;)

Why he can't get any power on his kick off is just weird. If I was a
big strong safety that wasn't good enough to play but was borderline
special teams I would learn to kick.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 7 2010 1:56 pm
From: buRford


On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 09:46:56 -0500, Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> wrote:

>buRford wrote:
>> On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 14:13:35 -0500, Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> wrote:
>>
>>> graybeard wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 12:11:16 -0400 "papa.carl44"
>>>> <papadotcarl@nospamverizon.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Johnctx" <jc@spamtx.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:LoOdnWpn_fjTrSbWnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>>> Tutor wrote:
>>>>>>> On Apr 2, 5:50 pm, Harlan Lachman <har...@eeivt.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> It is hard to get broken up over losing a kicker. It is not like he was
>>>>>>>> someone we invested a lot in, say a Mike Nugent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The challenge is that we can only sign a UFA Kicker who was not cut who
>>>>>>>> makes less than Jay or, we can take someone's leavings.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not sure about this move.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Seems like the FO didn't like his play or his mouth. I hope at the end
>>>>>>>> of games it was his play.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> h
>>>>>>> You don't understand the economics of this move? The Jets are now
>>>>>>> free to sign a FA with an average salary the sae as Feely's (I think
>>>>>>> new contract.. $2.5 million?) THat's one for starters. Which kicker
>>>>>>> blew it in the playoffs? Feely. Feely played well for the Jets but
>>>>>>> let's not deify him. Sure, after Nugent, John Hall and some other
>>>>>>> very bad kickers, Feely may hae felt like gold, but his kickoffs were
>>>>>>> weak, he choked in the biggest of spots. Now the Jets will piut Folk
>>>>>>> against Rackers (who had 94% FG accuracy last year plus injuries) and
>>>>>>> also be able to sign at least one decent FA under the Final 8 rules.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't get me wrong. I liked Feely. But in no way am I surprised or
>>>>>>> disappointed here. Lets see which FA they bring in. Could get a nice
>>>>>>> player and certainly a good back up for a position at that price.
>>>>>> Tutor if they can get a guy who makes almost all of his kicks inside the
>>>>>> 40 I am a happy man. A guy who can make it 40+ like Feely and place it
>>>>>> where he wants on KO's would be nice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It could work out but I don't like the gamble.
>>>>> Again, I agree with John. Given the history of Jet's kickers, it would have
>>>>> been nice to stay with a guy who did it most of the time, seemed to be a
>>>>> real team player and competitor. This has become such an important part of
>>>>> the game I don't think it they should assume they will find someone. It
>>>>> could be a huge gamble.
>>>> I just don't understand Tannenbaum's thinking on this, unless he is
>>>> under orders from Woody to keep his spending down.
>>>>
>>>> Both Ryan and Westhoff called Feeley after the season and told him they
>>>> wanted him back.
>>>>
>>>> Feeley was not asking for a big raise, and in fact he signed with
>>>> Arizona for about the same salary as he made last year, $1.5 million per
>>>> year for 2 years.
>>>>
>>>> Feeley is known as a good clubhouse presence, a team guy, and a fierce
>>>> competitor who actually likes tackling. I can recall several instances
>>>> when he saved field position and possibly a score by tackling the
>>>> returner.
>>>>
>>>> I gained a lot of respect for him when he stepped in at the last second
>>>> to handle the punting, despite the fact that he had never punted before.
>>>> Punting is completely different from place kicking, and if you are not
>>>> in condition to do it you can easily pull a groin muscle - I know
>>>> because it happened to me. And he actually did a great job of keeping
>>>> the Jets out of trouble.
>>>>
>>>> It's been reported that Tannenbaum actually asked Feeley to take a pay
>>>> cut. Huh???
>>>>
>>>> Despite Tutor's characterization of choking in playoff games, Feeley was
>>>> 1 for 1 in the Wild Card game, 1 for 1 in the Divisional game, and 1 for
>>>> 3 in the Conference game. The two FG's he missed against the Colts were
>>>> not exactly chip shots, one was 44 yards and the other was 52 yards. And
>>>> I believe the Jets lost by a lot more than those 6 points.
>>>>
>>>> I believe Tutor is incorrect on Rackers' status before signing with the
>>>> Texans. Rackers was a UFA, just like Feeley, and we can only sign a UFA
>>>> for no more than the $1.5 million Feeley got from the Cards. I have to
>>>> think that was a factor in being unable to sign Rackers. I also feel
>>>> that for that kind of money we will not find a UFA who would give us as
>>>> much value as Feeley would have for that amount.
>>>>
>>>> I sure hope Folk turns it back around, and shows that he can kick in the
>>>> hostile NJ winter, but right now I'm very nervous about the place
>>>> kicking situation.
>>>>
>>>> But then, I believe Nugent is still out there ;-)
>>> If he could kick off I would bring him in and i am serious. He was
>>> perfect inside the 30 & never missed more than 2 /year inside the 40 but
>>> his kick offs were high but never out of the end zone. If he was low
>>> pick instead of #2 we would not be as harsh on him.
>>>
>>> With this offense we need to get 3 every time we within the 30. I will
>>> always take the sure kicker inside the 40 over the guy who is more
>>> likely to shank that kick & make the 55 yarder.
>>
>> Yeah... but you forget his bad streaks, when he'd go south for a while.
>> As a last resort, maybe ;)
>
>Why he can't get any power on his kick off is just weird. If I was a
>big strong safety that wasn't good enough to play but was borderline
>special teams I would learn to kick.

I know you've always liked him, so I'll just leave it as... he's still pretty young, yet
he doesn't have a lot of suitors. He just never was able to make the leap into the NFL,
and remained a coed ;)

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Mickey Shuler
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/b12e6e2248008f16?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 7 2010 8:06 am
From: Johnctx


I have to admit seeing a Shuler on the field would be nice. I haven't
seen Penn State play much.

He didn't do much in college but his pro day times look good.


http://tinyurl.com/yesgq7r

Especially the 3 cone & broad jump......7th rounder but the Pats took
Klecko's kid so they will probably grab this guy.

http://www.newyorkjets.com/blog/posts/1578-college-prospects-visiting-the-jets-complex

College Prospects Visiting the Jets Complex
Published: Tue, April 6, 2010 - 12:05pm ET
Eric Allen
By Eric Allen

Allen is the senior managing editor of newyorkjets.com. He is in his
ninth season with the Jets.

File Under: David Clowney, Penn State, Mickey Shuler Jr.
change font email article

04/06 — Just 16 days before the commencement of the 2010 draft and the
Jets are dotting their i's and crossing their t's as a number of draft
prospects are dropping by Florham Park for a visit this week.

Most of the hay is in the barn at this point, but these visits might
give the Jets a better feel for a player and another chance to review
some critical medical details. We've seen a bunch of the guys walking
the halls here at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center and the list
of invitees this week includes:
Prospect College Prospect College
T Anthony Davis Rutgers DT Corey Peters Kentucky
RB Montario Hardesty Tennessee OL Maurkice Pouncey Florida
CB Kareem Jackson Alabama CB Patrick Robinson Florida State
RB Ryan Matthews Fresno State OLB Ricky Sapp Clemson
CB Devin McCourty Rutgers TE Mickey Shuler Penn State
DL Jared Odrick Penn State S Major Wright Florida

Thirty-two years ago, the Green & White drafted Penn State TE Mickey
Shuler in the third round of the 1978 NFL Draft. Shuler played 12
seasons for the Jets and finished with career totals of 438 receptions
(tied for fifth in franchise annals with Wesley Walker) and 4,819 yards
(seventh). Mickey's son, who impressed pro scouts at PSU's pro day, had
plenty of blocking responsibility under Joe Paterno and finished with 27
career catches.

Each NFL club is permitted to host 30 players, plus prospects who either
attended a college within a 30-mile radius of the team's facility (e.g.,
Rutgers for the Jets) or are currently living within 30 miles of a
franchise's headquarters.

Clowney Jet-Setting to Ghana

Fresh off a humanitarian mission in Haiti, WR David Clowney recently
announced that he's going to Ghana from July 3-10 in an effort to
improve the lives of children in West Africa. His week-long mission will
feature a visit to the Korle Bu Teaching Hospital/Little Angels Trust,
where he will make donation of money and medical supplies.

Clowney is also scheduled to speak to students and make a donation at a
school in Kumasi and he'll make an appearance at a children's home in
Ghana's capital city of Accra. The trip will conclude with an American
football camp.

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TOPIC: Brunell?
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Date: Wed, Apr 7 2010 12:46 pm
From: Demetrios


Heard on XM-Sirius's NFL channel that the Brunell is in town to visit
the Jets.

If nothing else, it shows the Jets are interested in picking up a
suitable backup. The question is, if we sign a FA QB, like a Bulger or
a Brunell, to be a clear, solid backup, who gets cut? Is it reasonable
to think that Clemens gets the boot so we can hold onto a prospect
like Ainge, since we know Clemens has zero value to anyone (us
included)?

D.


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Medarticles Please, I need a paper from Antiviral Research 1987, Sciencedirect

Buzz It
Dear Friends

I need the next paper please:

"On the inhibition of plant virus multiplication by ribavirin"
Burkhard Lerch
Antiviral Research
Volume 7, Issue 5, June 1987, Pages 257-270
DOI: 10.1016/0166-3542(87)90010-6

Link:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6T2H-476KXNP-G7&_user=713869&_coverDate=06/30/1987&_rdoc=2&_fmt=high&_orig=browse&_srch=doc-info(%23toc%234919%231987%23999929994%23361030%23FLP%23display%23Volume)&_cdi=4919&_sort=d&_docanchor=&_ct=4&_acct=C000039900&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=713869&md5=1e3654ab16ee302b5b5f777ed8d233b4

Thanks again

FJ

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