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Journal Rheologica Acta
Publisher Springer Berlin / Heidelberg
ISSN 0035-4511 (Print) 1435-1528 (Online)
Issue Volume 43, Number 4 / August, 2004

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* Cannizzaro reads this NG ;) - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/ad4e54f8cff41ee5?hl=en
* Classic Belichick Quotes on the Draft - 5 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/febf7036472e6cdd?hl=en
* Gholston contract "restructured" - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/6006e3555b80fc7c?hl=en
* Report: Faneca will be cut Monday... - 4 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/6a8bb967bbee0478?hl=en
* Faneca to sign with Arizona - 5 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/8ddf8801aea5d2cd?hl=en
* Faneca upset, but classy... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/49bad415f25aae3e?hl=en
* UFA Tanner, Texas - 3 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/c10ce3397f7f2bbe?hl=en
* ●-●-Discount Brand Top-quality T-shirts-Armani,Adidas,A&F,BBC,Christan
Audigier,Coogi,Ecko,Lacoste,etc.--http://www.fjrjtrade.com - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/0841b9752afc51e1?hl=en
* Classic Buy Authentic Shoes Discount Stock Series Cheap Shoes Business - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/dfd7298f71314f43?hl=en
* Easterbrook on the draft - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/9244054321940c9d?hl=en

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TOPIC: Cannizzaro reads this NG ;)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/ad4e54f8cff41ee5?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 4:20 pm
From: Johnny Morongo


On Apr 27, 10:51 am, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:45:22 -0500, Johnctx <j...@spamtx.net> wrote:
> >> ROTFPIMP.  Can you imagine the fun we'll have at your expense?  Keep
> >> them one worders commin'.
>
> >jerkface!
>
> Thing is, the PIMP part of JM's post, has nothing to do with laughing, but alas, his age
> ;)

You're toast, Buddy. You can Depends on that.


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 4:22 pm
From: Johnny Morongo


On Apr 27, 8:45 am, Johnctx <j...@spamtx.net> wrote:
> > ROTFPIMP.  Can you imagine the fun we'll have at your expense?  Keep
> > them one worders commin'.
>
> jerkface!

If you had even ONE ball, you'd drop everything and come up for the
weekend

pantyman!.


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 7:19 pm
From: buRford


On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:20:03 -0700 (PDT), Johnny Morongo <mirehiel@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Apr 27, 10:51 am, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:45:22 -0500, Johnctx <j...@spamtx.net> wrote:
>> >> ROTFPIMP.  Can you imagine the fun we'll have at your expense?  Keep
>> >> them one worders commin'.
>>
>> >jerkface!
>>
>> Thing is, the PIMP part of JM's post, has nothing to do with laughing, but alas, his age
>> ;)
>
>You're toast, Buddy. You can Depends on that.

Hey, I could've said that PIMP part reflected on yer chosen profession, but as a
gentleman, I felt it best to keep your little secret private.

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TOPIC: Classic Belichick Quotes on the Draft
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/febf7036472e6cdd?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 4:53 pm
From: BoyerG@BOS001428.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me


Glenn Greenstein <lexa695@hotmail.com> writes:

> The reason you are a fan and why you even watch games is to be
> entertained. the draft and all the little things written and said to
> fans by the media and the CS is also done pure and simply for
> entertainment value so it is fair to say that BB is in the
> entertainment business as much as he is in the pro-football business.
> I want to be entertained.

How is this true? Its a coach's job to entertain us with his words? Is
it the player's job to do the same when they are being interviewed as
well?

The thing I want is a very serious football player that is ready to do
whatever it takes to win on Sunday. And then, with that, I'm
entertained. I'm entertained because of the rawness of the
competition, not because Chad ocho cinco does something funny after
catching a ball.

--
Galen Boyer

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== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 4:55 pm
From: "Marc"

"Nunya Bidnits" <nunyabidnits@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
news:hr7e4v$k7f$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> "Tutor" <dcat4434@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:375f708e-8f61-4263-9522-0191266e6687@l6g2000vbo.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 26, 12:21 pm, Julio <hoolio3sanc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "It was fine. When they schedule them we are there. When it's our
>> turn to pick we'll turn them in. I've done them in one day.
>> I've done them in two days. I've done them in three days.
>> Whatever it is it is...We picked ahead of some teams. We
>> picked behind some teams. We'll see how all that comes together."
>>
>> J.
>
> He is such a joy to read and listen to <sarcasm mode>. Really, why do
> sports writers even bother him? When they have loquaciuos guys like
> Herm Edwards, Rex Ryan and so many others that can give them what they
> are looking for. They should just leave BB to his cave.
>
> ---------------------
>
> Herm Edwards is coaching again? Where should I send the sympathy card?
>
> MartyB in KC
>

Personally, I think BB has Asperger's. Think about it. He has an obvious
discomfort in being around the media; his deadpan delivery when speaking; a
general lack of emotional expression; and his complete and total obsession
and perseverence with knowing everything there is to know about one thing.

That being said, I get a kick out of listening to BB talk to the media.
He's a master at stating the obvious.
You can almost hear him infer "Dumbass!" at the end of every sentence. Who
needs animation?

Marc

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 4:56 pm
From: BoyerG@BOS001428.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me


"Marc" <dionne1224@suscom-maine.net> writes:

> "Nunya Bidnits" <nunyabidnits@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
> news:hr7e4v$k7f$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> "Tutor" <dcat4434@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:375f708e-8f61-4263-9522-0191266e6687@l6g2000vbo.googlegroups.com...
>> On Apr 26, 12:21 pm, Julio <hoolio3sanc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> "It was fine. When they schedule them we are there. When it's our
>>> turn to pick we'll turn them in. I've done them in one day.
>>> I've done them in two days. I've done them in three days.
>>> Whatever it is it is...We picked ahead of some teams. We
>>> picked behind some teams. We'll see how all that comes together."
>>>
>>> J.
>>
>> He is such a joy to read and listen to <sarcasm mode>. Really, why do
>> sports writers even bother him? When they have loquaciuos guys like
>> Herm Edwards, Rex Ryan and so many others that can give them what they
>> are looking for. They should just leave BB to his cave.
>>
>> ---------------------
>>
>> Herm Edwards is coaching again? Where should I send the sympathy card?
>>
>> MartyB in KC
>>
>
> Personally, I think BB has Asperger's. Think about it. He has an obvious
> discomfort in being around the media; his deadpan delivery when speaking; a
> general lack of emotional expression; and his complete and total obsession
> and perseverence with knowing everything there is to know about one thing.
>
> That being said, I get a kick out of listening to BB talk to the media.
> He's a master at stating the obvious.
> You can almost hear him infer "Dumbass!" at the end of every sentence. Who
> needs animation?

How about his unbelievably disgusting long groweling snorts?

--
Galen Boyer

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== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 5:02 pm
From: MZ


Marc wrote:
> "Nunya Bidnits" <nunyabidnits@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
> news:hr7e4v$k7f$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> "Tutor" <dcat4434@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:375f708e-8f61-4263-9522-0191266e6687@l6g2000vbo.googlegroups.com...
>> On Apr 26, 12:21 pm, Julio <hoolio3sanc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> "It was fine. When they schedule them we are there. When it's our
>>> turn to pick we'll turn them in. I've done them in one day.
>>> I've done them in two days. I've done them in three days.
>>> Whatever it is it is...We picked ahead of some teams. We
>>> picked behind some teams. We'll see how all that comes together."
>>>
>>> J.
>> He is such a joy to read and listen to <sarcasm mode>. Really, why do
>> sports writers even bother him? When they have loquaciuos guys like
>> Herm Edwards, Rex Ryan and so many others that can give them what they
>> are looking for. They should just leave BB to his cave.
>>
>> ---------------------
>>
>> Herm Edwards is coaching again? Where should I send the sympathy card?
>>
>> MartyB in KC
>>
>
> Personally, I think BB has Asperger's. Think about it. He has an obvious
> discomfort in being around the media; his deadpan delivery when speaking; a
> general lack of emotional expression; and his complete and total obsession
> and perseverence with knowing everything there is to know about one thing.
>
> That being said, I get a kick out of listening to BB talk to the media.
> He's a master at stating the obvious.
> You can almost hear him infer "Dumbass!" at the end of every sentence. Who
> needs animation?

I don't think he has a discomfort around the media. I've seen him give
a pleasant interview many times. And sometimes when he's in the middle
of being cold at a press conference, someone will ask him something
about the history of the game and he goes on for 10 minutes with
excitement. I think he has a disdain for cliche questions more than
anything else.


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 7:22 pm
From: Julio


In article <litbt5l0vtv5qi8liknpgq81vjbl00kki0@4ax.com>
NK wrote:
> I dunno, I find it entertaining to watch him "answer" questions
> while conveying no information at all. I thought "We picked ahead of
> some teams. We picked behind some teams." was pretty funny.

Exactly, that's why I posted it! Didn't know I was going to set
off a long thread. Some people are pretty humorless whenever the
Pats are mentioned though. (Glenn....)


J.


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TOPIC: Gholston contract "restructured"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/6006e3555b80fc7c?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 5:03 pm
From: Harlan Lachman


In article
<ae4854c0-1d86-4f23-8d4d-bc56b1eb7f23@c21g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
Michael <mjd1966@verizon.net> wrote:

> On Apr 26, 11:06 am, Ian <spuorgelg...@ianwhitephoto.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Apr 26, 3:27 pm, Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Apr 26, 9:47 am, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > 1050 ESPN Reports Vernon Gholston has agreed to restructure his
> > > > contract.
> >
> > > > I dont know the details, but I doubt the new deal pays him more :-)
> >
> > > Are they restructuring his passion for the game and ability to learn
> > > too?
> >
> > AIUI, he's dropped the guaranteed portion of contract down to $1.5m,
> > but has the ability to earn *more* than his original contract with
> > incentives and performance targets.
> >
> > Paying him $0 basic and letting him earn $0.5m per sack ought to
> > ignite a little passion.
> >
> > --
> > Ian
>
> i guess a backloaded contract with performance incentives is the best
> thing that they can do in this case... i really hope he can do
> somthing for himself and the jets now

Michael, according to one article, one thing he did is take a little
more in salary and move money to incentives so if we cut him at the end
of this season and there is an upset and a next season, his cap hit will
be lesss.

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TOPIC: Report: Faneca will be cut Monday...
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/6a8bb967bbee0478?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 5:10 pm
From: Harlan Lachman


In article <J7udnWe9PfiSs0vWnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"papa.carl44" <papadotcarl@nospamverizon.net> wrote:

> "Harlan Lachman" <harlan@eeivt.com> wrote in message
> news:harlan-B1721F.19170626042010@news60.forteinc.com...
> > In article <-qadnU8pfaSBL0jWnZ2dnUVZ_uKdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> > Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Harlan Lachman wrote:
> >> > In article <u1r6t55n5rsv7kk1heurbbv77s4i85kfgd@4ax.com>,
> >> > graybeard <graybeard@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 17:57:35 -0400 MZ <mark@nospam.void> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> If they don't, and
> >> >>> they're pinning all their hopes on Ducasse, it's a very risky move.
> >> >> Especially since Dusasse's weakest skill is supposed to be, guess
> >> >> what?
> >> >> PASS BLOCKING!
> >> >
> >> > As a OT out in space. Some posit he will do fine inside at G.
> >> >
> >> > Folks should be worried. OTOH, Rex and Callahan have done pretty well
> >> > so
> >> > far for us.
> >> >
> >> > At least let's wait for the first four games before screaming the sky
> >> > is
> >> > falling.
> >> >
> >> > Given our schedule, we will likely know by then if we be the cream,
> >> > players, or putzes.
> >> >
> >> > h
> >>
> >> Harlan, how many players form 1AA have made the jump to start in the NFL
> >> their 1st year? How many at OL?
> >>
> >> It is a huge risk.
> >
> > Is that a rhetorical question. I have no idea.
> >
> > I assume most 2nd round guard picks play fairly soon.
> >
> > h
>
> My guess is most second round guard picks get cut after being backups for a
> while. How many total guards are in the League?

Probably at least 90. 64 starters and some depth.

h


== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 6:46 pm
From: "papa.carl44"

"Johnctx" <jc@spamtx.net> wrote in message
news:gKidnW8lOodbQUvWnZ2dnUVZ_vkAAAAA@giganews.com...
> papa.carl44 wrote:
>> "Johnctx" <jc@spamtx.net> wrote in message
>> news:-qadnU8pfaSBL0jWnZ2dnUVZ_uKdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>> Harlan Lachman wrote:
>>>> In article <u1r6t55n5rsv7kk1heurbbv77s4i85kfgd@4ax.com>,
>>>> graybeard <graybeard@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 17:57:35 -0400 MZ <mark@nospam.void> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If they don't, and they're pinning all their hopes on Ducasse, it's a
>>>>>> very risky move.
>>>>> Especially since Dusasse's weakest skill is supposed to be, guess
>>>>> what?
>>>>> PASS BLOCKING!
>>>> As a OT out in space. Some posit he will do fine inside at G.
>>>>
>>>> Folks should be worried. OTOH, Rex and Callahan have done pretty well
>>>> so far for us.
>>>>
>>>> At least let's wait for the first four games before screaming the sky
>>>> is falling.
>>>>
>>>> Given our schedule, we will likely know by then if we be the cream,
>>>> players, or putzes.
>>>>
>>>> h
>>> Harlan, how many players form 1AA have made the jump to start in the NFL
>>> their 1st year? How many at OL?
>>>
>>> It is a huge risk.
>>
>> Off the top of my head, the only guy I can think of is Justin Strelzcyk
>> from Maine who played with Pittsburgh for several years and had a very
>> untimely and tragic death. I think that position is absolutely the
>> hardest to make the transition at....there simply are not the types of
>> guys attacking you at Mass that will be there in the NFL...I, IMHO, think
>> this is a HUGE reach. I'm guessing they are going with Slauson or someone
>> they already have or plan to pick up.
>
> Thanks P

I coached a kid in high school who played with Strelzcyk at Maine, the kid
actually lived with us for a while and we went to a Pittsburgh / Jets game
one time and met with Strelzcyk after the game. It was really upsetting to
the guy I know very well when he died. They had been fairly close...or as
my close friend said, as close as anyone could get to him. He was a guy
capable of playing way beyond the caliber of 1AA football, not many of those
I don't think.


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 6:56 pm
From: MZ


Harlan Lachman wrote:
> In article <J7udnWe9PfiSs0vWnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> "papa.carl44" <papadotcarl@nospamverizon.net> wrote:
>
>> "Harlan Lachman" <harlan@eeivt.com> wrote in message
>> news:harlan-B1721F.19170626042010@news60.forteinc.com...
>>> In article <-qadnU8pfaSBL0jWnZ2dnUVZ_uKdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>> Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Harlan Lachman wrote:
>>>>> In article <u1r6t55n5rsv7kk1heurbbv77s4i85kfgd@4ax.com>,
>>>>> graybeard <graybeard@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 17:57:35 -0400 MZ <mark@nospam.void> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If they don't, and
>>>>>>> they're pinning all their hopes on Ducasse, it's a very risky move.
>>>>>> Especially since Dusasse's weakest skill is supposed to be, guess
>>>>>> what?
>>>>>> PASS BLOCKING!
>>>>> As a OT out in space. Some posit he will do fine inside at G.
>>>>>
>>>>> Folks should be worried. OTOH, Rex and Callahan have done pretty well
>>>>> so
>>>>> far for us.
>>>>>
>>>>> At least let's wait for the first four games before screaming the sky
>>>>> is
>>>>> falling.
>>>>>
>>>>> Given our schedule, we will likely know by then if we be the cream,
>>>>> players, or putzes.
>>>>>
>>>>> h
>>>> Harlan, how many players form 1AA have made the jump to start in the NFL
>>>> their 1st year? How many at OL?
>>>>
>>>> It is a huge risk.
>>> Is that a rhetorical question. I have no idea.
>>>
>>> I assume most 2nd round guard picks play fairly soon.
>>>
>>> h
>> My guess is most second round guard picks get cut after being backups for a
>> while. How many total guards are in the League?
>
> Probably at least 90. 64 starters and some depth.

If we count practice squads, probably closer to 150.


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 9:51 pm
From: "papa.carl44"

"MZ" <mark@nospam.void> wrote in message
news:bM2dnaS-c8VSCErWnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@giganews.com...
> Harlan Lachman wrote:
>> In article <J7udnWe9PfiSs0vWnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>> "papa.carl44" <papadotcarl@nospamverizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> "Harlan Lachman" <harlan@eeivt.com> wrote in message
>>> news:harlan-B1721F.19170626042010@news60.forteinc.com...
>>>> In article <-qadnU8pfaSBL0jWnZ2dnUVZ_uKdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>>> Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Harlan Lachman wrote:
>>>>>> In article <u1r6t55n5rsv7kk1heurbbv77s4i85kfgd@4ax.com>,
>>>>>> graybeard <graybeard@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 17:57:35 -0400 MZ <mark@nospam.void> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If they don't, and
>>>>>>>> they're pinning all their hopes on Ducasse, it's a very risky move.
>>>>>>> Especially since Dusasse's weakest skill is supposed to be, guess
>>>>>>> what?
>>>>>>> PASS BLOCKING!
>>>>>> As a OT out in space. Some posit he will do fine inside at G.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Folks should be worried. OTOH, Rex and Callahan have done pretty well
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> far for us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At least let's wait for the first four games before screaming the sky
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> falling.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Given our schedule, we will likely know by then if we be the cream,
>>>>>> players, or putzes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> h
>>>>> Harlan, how many players form 1AA have made the jump to start in the
>>>>> NFL
>>>>> their 1st year? How many at OL?
>>>>>
>>>>> It is a huge risk.
>>>> Is that a rhetorical question. I have no idea.
>>>>
>>>> I assume most 2nd round guard picks play fairly soon.
>>>>
>>>> h
>>> My guess is most second round guard picks get cut after being backups
>>> for a while. How many total guards are in the League?
>>
>> Probably at least 90. 64 starters and some depth.
>
> If we count practice squads, probably closer to 150.

How do we figure out if a second round pick makes it, gets cut...and if they
don't, how soon do they play...on average? I have no clue.

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TOPIC: Faneca to sign with Arizona
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/8ddf8801aea5d2cd?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 5:11 pm
From: Tutor


per Schefter

http://twitter.com/adam_schefter

He gets $2.5 guaranteed from them, bringing him back or just over the
$7.5 the Jets would have paid him. (Now he gets $5.25 + 2.5). He
rejoins someof his old Steelers coaches. Arizona was hot for him
before the jets signed him. It's one of the reasons the jets paid so
much for him was to keep him from going to Arizona then.

Schefter also reporting that Jamarcus Bust-Russel aboout to be
released.

Huge #1 bust, just huge.


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 5:14 pm
From: Tutor


On Apr 27, 8:11 pm, Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> per Schefter
>
> http://twitter.com/adam_schefter
>
> He gets $2.5 guaranteed from them, bringing him back or just over the
> $7.5 the Jets would have paid him.  (Now he gets $5.25 + 2.5).  He
> rejoins someof his old Steelers coaches.  Arizona was hot for him
> before the jets signed him.  It's one of the reasons the jets paid so
> much for him was to keep him from going to Arizona then.
>
> Schefter also reporting that Jamarcus Bust-Russel aboout to be
> released.
>
> Huge #1 bust, just huge.

lots of ex-Jets on Arizona!


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 7:21 pm
From: buRford


On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 17:11:06 -0700 (PDT), Tutor <dcat4434@yahoo.com> wrote:

>per Schefter
>
>http://twitter.com/adam_schefter
>
>He gets $2.5 guaranteed from them, bringing him back or just over the
>$7.5 the Jets would have paid him. (Now he gets $5.25 + 2.5). He
>rejoins someof his old Steelers coaches. Arizona was hot for him
>before the jets signed him. It's one of the reasons the jets paid so
>much for him was to keep him from going to Arizona then.
>

I kinda figured he'd end up with Whisenhunt.
Surprised he signed for more than vet minimum, though.


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 7:21 pm
From: Glenn Greenstein


On Apr 27, 8:11 pm, Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> per Schefter
>
> http://twitter.com/adam_schefter
>
> He gets $2.5 guaranteed from them, bringing him back or just over the
> $7.5 the Jets would have paid him.  (Now he gets $5.25 + 2.5).  He
> rejoins someof his old Steelers coaches.  Arizona was hot for him
> before the jets signed him.  It's one of the reasons the jets paid so
> much for him was to keep him from going to Arizona then.
>
> Schefter also reporting that Jamarcus Bust-Russel aboout to be
> released.
>
> Huge #1 bust, just huge.

That didn't take very long


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 7:21 pm
From: buRford


On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 17:14:52 -0700 (PDT), Tutor <dcat4434@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Apr 27, 8:11�pm, Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> per Schefter
>>
>> http://twitter.com/adam_schefter
>>
>> He gets $2.5 guaranteed from them, bringing him back or just over the
>> $7.5 the Jets would have paid him. �(Now he gets $5.25 + 2.5). �He
>> rejoins someof his old Steelers coaches. �Arizona was hot for him
>> before the jets signed him. �It's one of the reasons the jets paid so
>> much for him was to keep him from going to Arizona then.
>>
>> Schefter also reporting that Jamarcus Bust-Russel aboout to be
>> released.
>>
>> Huge #1 bust, just huge.
>
> lots of ex-Jets on Arizona!

Including their head coach...

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 7:15 pm
From: buRford


On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 14:28:38 -0500, Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> wrote:

>buRford wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 08:25:04 -0500, Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> wrote:
>>
>>> The Jets had little leverage as i thy cut him
>>
>>
>> Read a lot of Bible lately?
>
>No they cut my tongue out & I spell phonetically.

Oh... thought I was seeing the first signs of some kind of god complex...
I guess I thy was wrong ;)

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 7:23 pm
From: buRford


On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 14:51:16 -0500, Johnctx <jc@spamtx.net> wrote:

>A buddy I trust claims this kid from Texas might have some value. He
>was also academic All Big 12 as well. When was the last time we found
>an OL as a UFA?

Jacob Bender... um, never mind ;)


>
>http://www.draftinsider.net/blog/?p=1707
>
>Thus far unheralded offensive lineman Charlie Tanner has turned in a
>terrific workout. Tanner started the day by completing 35 reps on the
>bench, posted a vertical jump of 36 inches then ran his 40 in times as
>fast as 5.06 seconds. His official average times for the two runs will
>be in the range of 5.12 seconds. His ten yard split was 1.72 seconds.
>Tanner's short shuttle time was also a very solid 4.55 seconds.
>
>04/01/2010 - PRO DAY RESULTS: 79 scouts and coaches representing 30
>teams (the Rams and Lions were the only two not represented), including
>three head coaches, came together to watch. G Charlie Tanner (6-3 7/8,
>305) ran 5.20 and 5.12 in the 40. Tanner posted a 36-inch vertical jump,
>a 9-foot, 3-inch broad jump and a 4.38-second short shuttle ??? all
>numbers that would have put him in the top-10 amongst offensive linemen
>at the combine. His vertical jump would have beaten out Oklahoma T Trent
>Williams' top mark of 34 1/2 inches, while his 4.38-second short shuttle
>would have shattered the best mark at the combine ??? a time of 4.51
>second set by Arizona State OL Shawn Lauvao. Combined with a 5.20 and
>5.12 in the 40, Tanner certainly helped his stock Wednesday. - Gil
>Brandt, NFL.com


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 7:24 pm
From: buRford


On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 15:35:18 -0700 (PDT), Michael <mjd1966@verizon.net> wrote:

>On Apr 27, 3:51 pm, Johnctx <j...@spamtx.net> wrote:
>> A buddy I trust claims this kid from Texas might have some value.  He
>> was also academic All Big 12 as well.  When was the last time we found
>> an OL as a UFA?
>>
>> http://www.draftinsider.net/blog/?p=1707
>>
>> Thus far unheralded offensive lineman Charlie Tanner has turned in a
>> terrific workout.  Tanner started the day by completing 35 reps on the
>> bench, posted a vertical jump of 36 inches then ran his 40 in times as
>> fast as 5.06 seconds.  His official average times for the two runs will
>> be in the range of 5.12 seconds.  His ten yard split was 1.72 seconds.
>> Tanner's short shuttle time was also a very solid 4.55 seconds.
>>
>> 04/01/2010 - PRO DAY RESULTS: 79 scouts and coaches representing 30
>> teams (the Rams and Lions were the only two not represented), including
>> three head coaches, came together to watch. G Charlie Tanner (6-3 7/8,
>> 305) ran 5.20 and 5.12 in the 40. Tanner posted a 36-inch vertical jump,
>> a 9-foot, 3-inch broad jump and a 4.38-second short shuttle ??? all
>> numbers that would have put him in the top-10 amongst offensive linemen
>> at the combine. His vertical jump would have beaten out Oklahoma T Trent
>> Williams' top mark of 34 1/2 inches, while his 4.38-second short shuttle
>> would have shattered the best mark at the combine ??? a time of 4.51
>> second set by Arizona State OL Shawn Lauvao. Combined with a 5.20 and
>> 5.12 in the 40, Tanner certainly helped his stock Wednesday. - Gil
>> Brandt, NFL.com
>
>any idea how long his arms are ?

Lot about arms lately, M... whatever happened to the fascination about necks (or lack
thereof)?


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 7:32 pm
From: buRford


On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:13:38 -0700 (PDT), Johnny Morongo <mirehiel@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Apr 27, 12:51 pm, Johnctx <j...@spamtx.net> wrote:
>> A buddy I trust claims this kid from Texas might have some value.  He
>> was also academic All Big 12 as well.  When was the last time we found
>> an OL as a UFA?
>>
>> http://www.draftinsider.net/blog/?p=1707
>>
>> Thus far unheralded offensive lineman Charlie Tanner has turned in a
>> terrific workout.  Tanner started the day by completing 35 reps on the
>> bench, posted a vertical jump of 36 inches then ran his 40 in times as
>> fast as 5.06 seconds.  His official average times for the two runs will
>> be in the range of 5.12 seconds.  His ten yard split was 1.72 seconds.
>> Tanner's short shuttle time was also a very solid 4.55 seconds.
>>
>> 04/01/2010 - PRO DAY RESULTS: 79 scouts and coaches representing 30
>> teams (the Rams and Lions were the only two not represented), including
>> three head coaches, came together to watch. G Charlie Tanner (6-3 7/8,
>> 305) ran 5.20 and 5.12 in the 40. Tanner posted a 36-inch vertical jump,
>> a 9-foot, 3-inch broad jump and a 4.38-second short shuttle ??? all
>> numbers that would have put him in the top-10 amongst offensive linemen
>> at the combine. His vertical jump would have beaten out Oklahoma T Trent
>> Williams' top mark of 34 1/2 inches, while his 4.38-second short shuttle
>> would have shattered the best mark at the combine ??? a time of 4.51
>> second set by Arizona State OL Shawn Lauvao. Combined with a 5.20 and
>> 5.12 in the 40, Tanner certainly helped his stock Wednesday. - Gil
>> Brandt, NFL.com
>
>Nice get, Jughead. How was he as a player? Numbers are nice and
>reflect the athleticism of a player but they don't tell you squat
>about how he actually preformed in his collegiate career.
>
>As a Texan, I assume that you've seen him in action. What did you
>notice *about his play* that would suggest that he might have a chance
>to make this team? At best, he'd be a # 4 on the depth chart and,
>even if he's good, would then be consigned to the PS. Or is he
>really good enough to leapfrog Clausen, Ducasse AND Moore? If not we
>have to stash him as best as we can.
>
>I hear that Burf has a JC routine that he's gonna try out.


Qu'est-ce? Veuillez expliquer?

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 26 2010 8:16 pm
From: "mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu"


On Apr 26, 10:52 am, "Nunya Bidnits" <nunyabidn...@eternal-
september.invalid> wrote:
> "mr d...@harvarduniversity.edu" <foster...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> >It seems pretty cut and dried to me.
>
> Are you referring to your penis, or your brain, or both?

What is up with your fascination with my penis??'

mr dude (calls security)

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 9:56 am
From: MuahMan


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== 1 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 4:09 am
From: "Remy McSwain"


In
news:4fb53041-ff46-4f3f-8486-efbee3466f71@k33g2000yqc.googlegroups.com,
Glenn Greenstein <lexa695@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 26, 3:05 pm, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Innews:375f708e-8f61-4263-9522-0191266e6687@l6g2000vbo.googlegroups.com,
>>
>>
>>
>> Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On Apr 26, 12:21 pm, Julio <hoolio3sanc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> "It was fine. When they schedule them we are there. When it's
>>>> our turn to pick we'll turn them in. I've done them in one
>>>> day. I've done them in two days. I've done them in three days.
>>>> Whatever it is it is...We picked ahead of some teams. We
>>>> picked behind some teams. We'll see how all that comes
>>>> together."
>>
>>>> J.
>>
>>> He is such a joy to read and listen to <sarcasm mode>. Really,
>>> why do sports writers even bother him? When they have
>>> loquaciuos guys like Herm Edwards, Rex Ryan and so many others
>>> that can give them what they are looking for. They should just
>>> leave BB to his cave.
>>
>> I'm not sure why this seems to be such a problem for many fans,
>> especially fans of other teams. I agree that Herm gave the fans
>> what they wanted in terms of animation, but if I were a Jets
>> fan, his loquaciousness would've been most embarrassing to me.
>>
>> I absolutely agree that I would much prefer more informative
>> reactions from BB. However, his MO seems to work well for him,
>> and the team. Hermie is behind a desk, and "so many others' are
>> also long since gone. And RR has only been there for a year.
>>
>> I'm not suggesting that the only way to last is to be much less
>> forth-coming. Walsh was very informative, and we know what his
>> track record was. I'm simply saying that every coach has to do
>> what works for them, and if BBs style works for him, and it
>> means having 3 SB wins, and 4 AFC titles, and being a perennial
>> contending team, then I'll take that over the track record of
>> other teams any day, no matter how loquacious their many
>> coaches have been.
>
> Remy, what BB said is an insult to everyone intelligence. You
> picked before some teams and after others, you also made picks
> when it was your turn and did it in 1, 2 and now 3 days. Wow,
> someone call the press room and hold the back page.

Glenn, anyone with any intelligence, who is also a real fan of the
game, and who also might have a sense of humor instead of just
looking for reasons to personally dislike an opposing coach, would
be amused about the game within the game that BB plays with the
press. And here, I thought NY fans were thick skinned instead of
thin skinned whinners about how opposing coaches are seeking them
out to personally insult them. (Just kidding Glenn. Life's too
short to take any of this personally).


== 2 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 4:15 am
From: Glenn Greenstein


On Apr 27, 7:09 am, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Innews:4fb53041-ff46-4f3f-8486-efbee3466f71@k33g2000yqc.googlegroups.com,
>
>
>
> Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 26, 3:05 pm, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> Innews:375f708e-8f61-4263-9522-0191266e6687@l6g2000vbo.googlegroups.com,
>
> >> Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> On Apr 26, 12:21 pm, Julio <hoolio3sanc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>> "It was fine. When they schedule them we are there. When it's
> >>>> our turn to pick we'll turn them in. I've done them in one
> >>>> day. I've done them in two days. I've done them in three days.
> >>>> Whatever it is it is...We picked ahead of some teams. We
> >>>> picked behind some teams. We'll see how all that comes
> >>>> together."
>
> >>>> J.
>
> >>> He is such a joy to read and listen to <sarcasm mode>. Really,
> >>> why do sports writers even bother him? When they have
> >>> loquaciuos guys like Herm Edwards, Rex Ryan and so many others
> >>> that can give them what they are looking for. They should just
> >>> leave BB to his cave.
>
> >> I'm not sure why this seems to be such a problem for many fans,
> >> especially fans of other teams. I agree that Herm gave the fans
> >> what they wanted in terms of animation, but if I were a Jets
> >> fan, his loquaciousness would've been most embarrassing to me.
>
> >> I absolutely agree that I would much prefer more informative
> >> reactions from BB. However, his MO seems to work well for him,
> >> and the team. Hermie is behind a desk, and "so many others' are
> >> also long since gone. And RR has only been there for a year.
>
> >> I'm not suggesting that the only way to last is to be much less
> >> forth-coming. Walsh was very informative, and we know what his
> >> track record was. I'm simply saying that every coach has to do
> >> what works for them, and if BBs style works for him, and it
> >> means having 3 SB wins, and 4 AFC titles, and being a perennial
> >> contending team, then I'll take that over the track record of
> >> other teams any day, no matter how loquacious their many
> >> coaches have been.
>
> > Remy, what BB said is an insult to everyone intelligence. You
> > picked before some teams and after others, you also made picks
> > when it was your turn and did it in 1, 2 and now 3 days. Wow,
> > someone call the press room and hold the back page.
>
> Glenn, anyone with any intelligence, who is also a real fan of the
> game, and who also might have a sense of humor instead of just
> looking for reasons to personally dislike an opposing coach, would
> be amused about the game within the game that BB plays with the
> press.  And here, I thought NY fans were thick skinned instead of
> thin skinned whinners about how opposing coaches are seeking them
> out to personally insult them.  (Just kidding Glenn.  Life's too
> short to take any of this personally).

The act is getting old Remy


== 3 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 4:32 am
From: "Remy McSwain"


In
news:23df228d-7383-4690-9e47-017b729ff514@f6g2000yqa.googlegroups.com,
Glenn Greenstein <lexa695@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 27, 7:09 am, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Innews:4fb53041-ff46-4f3f-8486-efbee3466f71@k33g2000yqc.googlegroups.com,
>>
>>
>>
>> Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Apr 26, 3:05 pm, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Innews:375f708e-8f61-4263-9522-0191266e6687@l6g2000vbo.googlegroups.com,
>>
>>>> Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 26, 12:21 pm, Julio <hoolio3sanc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "It was fine. When they schedule them we are there. When
>>>>>> it's our turn to pick we'll turn them in. I've done them in
>>>>>> one day. I've done them in two days. I've done them in
>>>>>> three days. Whatever it is it is...We picked ahead of some
>>>>>> teams. We picked behind some teams. We'll see how all that
>>>>>> comes together."
>>
>>>>>> J.
>>
>>>>> He is such a joy to read and listen to <sarcasm mode>.
>>>>> Really, why do sports writers even bother him? When they have
>>>>> loquaciuos guys like Herm Edwards, Rex Ryan and so many
>>>>> others that can give them what they are looking for. They
>>>>> should just leave BB to his cave.
>>
>>>> I'm not sure why this seems to be such a problem for many
>>>> fans, especially fans of other teams. I agree that Herm gave
>>>> the fans what they wanted in terms of animation, but if I
>>>> were a Jets fan, his loquaciousness would've been most
>>>> embarrassing to me.
>>
>>>> I absolutely agree that I would much prefer more informative
>>>> reactions from BB. However, his MO seems to work well for him,
>>>> and the team. Hermie is behind a desk, and "so many others'
>>>> are also long since gone. And RR has only been there for a
>>>> year.
>>
>>>> I'm not suggesting that the only way to last is to be much
>>>> less forth-coming. Walsh was very informative, and we know
>>>> what his track record was. I'm simply saying that every coach
>>>> has to do what works for them, and if BBs style works for
>>>> him, and it means having 3 SB wins, and 4 AFC titles, and
>>>> being a perennial contending team, then I'll take that over
>>>> the track record of other teams any day, no matter how
>>>> loquacious their many coaches have been.
>>
>>> Remy, what BB said is an insult to everyone intelligence. You
>>> picked before some teams and after others, you also made picks
>>> when it was your turn and did it in 1, 2 and now 3 days. Wow,
>>> someone call the press room and hold the back page.
>>
>> Glenn, anyone with any intelligence, who is also a real fan of
>> the game, and who also might have a sense of humor instead of
>> just looking for reasons to personally dislike an opposing
>> coach, would be amused about the game within the game that BB
>> plays with the press. And here, I thought NY fans were thick
>> skinned instead of thin skinned whinners about how opposing
>> coaches are seeking them out to personally insult them. (Just
>> kidding Glenn. Life's too short to take any of this personally).
>
> The act is getting old Remy

That's quite a different matter, Glenn, and I'm not sure has any
real relevance. Did you really expect him to change his spots just
for the sake of it over these years? If Rex has just as much
success and logevity with the Jets as BB has had with the Pats, do
you really expect Rex to change his schtick as well, just to keep
things fresh for the fans? C'mon, Glenn. Lighten up.


== 4 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 7:09 am
From: Ian


On Apr 26, 11:24 pm, Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 26, 5:46 pm, Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 26, 2:40 pm, Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 26, 12:21 pm, Julio <hoolio3sanc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > "It was fine. When they schedule them we are there. When it's our
> > > > turn to pick we'll turn them in. I've done them in one day.
> > > > I've done them in two days. I've done them in three days.
> > > > Whatever it is it is...We picked ahead of some teams. We
> > > > picked behind some teams. We'll see how all that comes together."
>
> > > > J.
>
> > > He is such a joy to read and listen to <sarcasm mode>.  Really, why do
> > > sports writers even bother him?  When they have loquaciuos guys like
> > > Herm Edwards, Rex Ryan and so many others that can give them what they
> > > are looking for.  They should just leave BB to his cave.
>
> > It's a process
>
> POTW
>
> Now there's a sportswriter's worst nightmare....  choosing between
> interviewing Belichick and Mangini.  Make sure all the chambers are
> loaded and just pull the trigger.

Which way do you propose they point the gun?

--
Ian


== 5 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 7:35 am
From: rochrist


NK wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 12:11:20 -0700 (PDT), Tutor <dcat4434@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Don't misunderstand me. I respect Belichick and have no problems with
>> his style of dealing with the media. It's just not entertaining,
>> that's all.
>
> I dunno, I find it entertaining to watch him "answer" questions
> while conveying no information at all. I thought "We picked ahead of
> some teams. We picked behind some teams." was pretty funny.
>

Yeah, agree. I consider some of his press conferences to be high art.


== 6 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 7:35 am
From: rochrist


Glenn Greenstein wrote:
> On Apr 26, 3:05 pm, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Innews:375f708e-8f61-4263-9522-0191266e6687@l6g2000vbo.googlegroups.com,
>>
>>
>>
>> Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On Apr 26, 12:21 pm, Julio <hoolio3sanc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> "It was fine. When they schedule them we are there. When it's
>>>> our turn to pick we'll turn them in. I've done them in one day.
>>>> I've done them in two days. I've done them in three days.
>>>> Whatever it is it is...We picked ahead of some teams. We
>>>> picked behind some teams. We'll see how all that comes
>>>> together."
>>>> J.
>>> He is such a joy to read and listen to <sarcasm mode>. Really,
>>> why do sports writers even bother him? When they have
>>> loquaciuos guys like Herm Edwards, Rex Ryan and so many others
>>> that can give them what they are looking for. They should just
>>> leave BB to his cave.
>> I'm not sure why this seems to be such a problem for many fans,
>> especially fans of other teams. I agree that Herm gave the fans
>> what they wanted in terms of animation, but if I were a Jets fan,
>> his loquaciousness would've been most embarrassing to me.
>>
>> I absolutely agree that I would much prefer more informative
>> reactions from BB. However, his MO seems to work well for him, and
>> the team. Hermie is behind a desk, and "so many others' are also
>> long since gone. And RR has only been there for a year.
>>
>> I'm not suggesting that the only way to last is to be much less
>> forth-coming. Walsh was very informative, and we know what his
>> track record was. I'm simply saying that every coach has to do what
>> works for them, and if BBs style works for him, and it means having
>> 3 SB wins, and 4 AFC titles, and being a perennial contending team,
>> then I'll take that over the track record of other teams any day, no
>> matter how loquacious their many coaches have been.
>
> Remy, what BB said is an insult to everyone intelligence. You picked
> before some teams and after others, you also made picks when it was
> your turn and did it in 1, 2 and now 3 days. Wow, someone call the
> press room and hold the back page.

Lighten up, Francis. We can't all be Tubby Rex.


== 7 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 12:32 pm
From: "Nunya Bidnits"

"Tutor" <dcat4434@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:375f708e-8f61-4263-9522-0191266e6687@l6g2000vbo.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 26, 12:21 pm, Julio <hoolio3sanc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "It was fine. When they schedule them we are there. When it�s our
> turn to pick we�ll turn them in. I�ve done them in one day.
> I�ve done them in two days. I�ve done them in three days.
> Whatever it is it is...We picked ahead of some teams. We
> picked behind some teams. We�ll see how all that comes together."
>
> J.

He is such a joy to read and listen to <sarcasm mode>. Really, why do
sports writers even bother him? When they have loquaciuos guys like
Herm Edwards, Rex Ryan and so many others that can give them what they
are looking for. They should just leave BB to his cave.

---------------------

Herm Edwards is coaching again? Where should I send the sympathy card?

MartyB in KC


== 8 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 12:57 pm
From: Glenn Greenstein


On Apr 27, 7:32 am, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Innews:23df228d-7383-4690-9e47-017b729ff514@f6g2000yqa.googlegroups.com,
>
>
>
> Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 27, 7:09 am, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> Innews:4fb53041-ff46-4f3f-8486-efbee3466f71@k33g2000yqc.googlegroups.com,
>
> >> Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Apr 26, 3:05 pm, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Innews:375f708e-8f61-4263-9522-0191266e6687@l6g2000vbo.googlegroups.com,
>
> >>>> Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Apr 26, 12:21 pm, Julio <hoolio3sanc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> "It was fine. When they schedule them we are there. When
> >>>>>> it's our turn to pick we'll turn them in. I've done them in
> >>>>>> one day. I've done them in two days. I've done them in
> >>>>>> three days. Whatever it is it is...We picked ahead of some
> >>>>>> teams. We picked behind some teams. We'll see how all that
> >>>>>> comes together."
>
> >>>>>> J.
>
> >>>>> He is such a joy to read and listen to <sarcasm mode>.
> >>>>> Really, why do sports writers even bother him? When they have
> >>>>> loquaciuos guys like Herm Edwards, Rex Ryan and so many
> >>>>> others that can give them what they are looking for. They
> >>>>> should just leave BB to his cave.
>
> >>>> I'm not sure why this seems to be such a problem for many
> >>>> fans, especially fans of other teams. I agree that Herm gave
> >>>> the fans what they wanted in terms of animation, but if I
> >>>> were a Jets fan, his loquaciousness would've been most
> >>>> embarrassing to me.
>
> >>>> I absolutely agree that I would much prefer more informative
> >>>> reactions from BB. However, his MO seems to work well for him,
> >>>> and the team. Hermie is behind a desk, and "so many others'
> >>>> are also long since gone. And RR has only been there for a
> >>>> year.
>
> >>>> I'm not suggesting that the only way to last is to be much
> >>>> less forth-coming. Walsh was very informative, and we know
> >>>> what his track record was. I'm simply saying that every coach
> >>>> has to do what works for them, and if BBs style works for
> >>>> him, and it means having 3 SB wins, and 4 AFC titles, and
> >>>> being a perennial contending team, then I'll take that over
> >>>> the track record of other teams any day, no matter how
> >>>> loquacious their many coaches have been.
>
> >>> Remy, what BB said is an insult to everyone intelligence. You
> >>> picked before some teams and after others, you also made picks
> >>> when it was your turn and did it in 1, 2 and now 3 days. Wow,
> >>> someone call the press room and hold the back page.
>
> >> Glenn, anyone with any intelligence, who is also a real fan of
> >> the game, and who also might have a sense of humor instead of
> >> just looking for reasons to personally dislike an opposing
> >> coach, would be amused about the game within the game that BB
> >> plays with the press. And here, I thought NY fans were thick
> >> skinned instead of thin skinned whinners about how opposing
> >> coaches are seeking them out to personally insult them. (Just
> >> kidding Glenn. Life's too short to take any of this personally).
>
> > The act is getting old Remy
>
> That's quite a different matter, Glenn, and I'm not sure has any
> real relevance.  Did you really expect him to change his spots just
> for the sake of it over these years?  If Rex has just as much
> success and logevity with the Jets as BB has had with the Pats, do
> you really expect Rex to change his schtick as well, just to keep
> things fresh for the fans?  C'mon, Glenn.  Lighten up.

Honestly this is how I feel.
The reason you are a fan and why you even watch games is to be
entertained. the draft and all the little things written and said to
fans by the media and the CS is also done pure and simply for
entertainment value so it is fair to say that BB is in the
entertainment business as much as he is in the pro-football business.
I want to be entertained. This is basically also the reason I don't
care that Cromartie has 7 kids with 6 wives in 5 states. If it does
not interfere with what he does on Sundays 16 or more weeks a year, he
can have another 20 kids with 10 more wives in 2 countries, it really
doesn't matter to me what he does until it effects me personally and
what would effect me is if he doesn't entertain me on Sundays.
BB was entertaining at one time but now I don't see it. Maybe it is
from suffering with Mangini and having a loose cannon like Rex in the
fold, who knows but it is how I feel.


== 9 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 1:36 pm
From: "Remy McSwain"


In
news:1b274216-4270-44b4-878f-a57b7b005787@u31g2000yqb.googlegroups.com,
Glenn Greenstein <lexa695@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 27, 7:32 am, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Innews:23df228d-7383-4690-9e47-017b729ff514@f6g2000yqa.googlegroups.com,
>>
>>
>>
>> Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Apr 27, 7:09 am, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Innews:4fb53041-ff46-4f3f-8486-efbee3466f71@k33g2000yqc.googlegroups.com,
>>
>>>> Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 26, 3:05 pm, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Innews:375f708e-8f61-4263-9522-0191266e6687@l6g2000vbo.googlegroups.com,
>>
>>>>>> Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Apr 26, 12:21 pm, Julio <hoolio3sanc...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> "It was fine. When they schedule them we are there. When
>>>>>>>> it's our turn to pick we'll turn them in. I've done them
>>>>>>>> in one day. I've done them in two days. I've done them in
>>>>>>>> three days. Whatever it is it is...We picked ahead of some
>>>>>>>> teams. We picked behind some teams. We'll see how all that
>>>>>>>> comes together."
>>
>>>>>>>> J.
>>
>>>>>>> He is such a joy to read and listen to <sarcasm mode>.
>>>>>>> Really, why do sports writers even bother him? When they
>>>>>>> have loquaciuos guys like Herm Edwards, Rex Ryan and so
>>>>>>> many others that can give them what they are looking for.
>>>>>>> They should just leave BB to his cave.
>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure why this seems to be such a problem for many
>>>>>> fans, especially fans of other teams. I agree that Herm gave
>>>>>> the fans what they wanted in terms of animation, but if I
>>>>>> were a Jets fan, his loquaciousness would've been most
>>>>>> embarrassing to me.
>>
>>>>>> I absolutely agree that I would much prefer more informative
>>>>>> reactions from BB. However, his MO seems to work well for
>>>>>> him, and the team. Hermie is behind a desk, and "so many
>>>>>> others' are also long since gone. And RR has only been
>>>>>> there for a year.
>>
>>>>>> I'm not suggesting that the only way to last is to be much
>>>>>> less forth-coming. Walsh was very informative, and we know
>>>>>> what his track record was. I'm simply saying that every
>>>>>> coach has to do what works for them, and if BBs style works
>>>>>> for him, and it means having 3 SB wins, and 4 AFC titles,
>>>>>> and being a perennial contending team, then I'll take that
>>>>>> over the track record of other teams any day, no matter how
>>>>>> loquacious their many coaches have been.
>>
>>>>> Remy, what BB said is an insult to everyone intelligence. You
>>>>> picked before some teams and after others, you also made
>>>>> picks when it was your turn and did it in 1, 2 and now 3
>>>>> days. Wow, someone call the press room and hold the back
>>>>> page.
>>
>>>> Glenn, anyone with any intelligence, who is also a real fan of
>>>> the game, and who also might have a sense of humor instead of
>>>> just looking for reasons to personally dislike an opposing
>>>> coach, would be amused about the game within the game that BB
>>>> plays with the press. And here, I thought NY fans were thick
>>>> skinned instead of thin skinned whinners about how opposing
>>>> coaches are seeking them out to personally insult them. (Just
>>>> kidding Glenn. Life's too short to take any of this
>>>> personally).
>>
>>> The act is getting old Remy
>>
>> That's quite a different matter, Glenn, and I'm not sure has any
>> real relevance. Did you really expect him to change his spots
>> just for the sake of it over these years? If Rex has just as
>> much success and logevity with the Jets as BB has had with the
>> Pats, do you really expect Rex to change his schtick as well,
>> just to keep things fresh for the fans? C'mon, Glenn. Lighten
>> up.
>
> Honestly this is how I feel.
> The reason you are a fan and why you even watch games is to be
> entertained. the draft and all the little things written and
> said to fans by the media and the CS is also done pure and
> simply for entertainment value so it is fair to say that BB is
> in the entertainment business as much as he is in the
> pro-football business. I want to be entertained. This is
> basically also the reason I don't care that Cromartie has 7 kids
> with 6 wives in 5 states. If it does not interfere with what he
> does on Sundays 16 or more weeks a year, he can have another 20
> kids with 10 more wives in 2 countries, it really doesn't matter
> to me what he does until it effects me personally and what would
> effect me is if he doesn't entertain me on Sundays.
> BB was entertaining at one time but now I don't see it. Maybe it
> is from suffering with Mangini and having a loose cannon like
> Rex in the fold, who knows but it is how I feel.

Glenn, I think your train of thought that lead you to believe that
it's somehow BB's job to 'entertain' you with his press conferences
is terribly flawed. Certainly, the NFL is in the entertainment
business. But does that mean that the commissioner should've told
jokes or sung a tune with every announcement? After all, that's the
natural extension of your logic.

The primary point of the NFL is the entertainment value of the
games. The fact that it's so entertaining and intriguing that it
stirs conversation, speculation, and curiosity that so many more
aspects of the enterprise can also be entertaining is the bonus
plan. The fact that the NFL can make a whole lot of money on these
ancillary benefits is also a bonus for everyone. But to conclude
that the owners, coaches, players, refs, and others owe it to you to
provide you with additional entertainment in addition to what they
do to put a great product on the field is quite a stretch, at best.

That's like saying that a director 'owes' it to you to do any more
than direct great films. Certainly, it's great when they provide
more. But to be a valid reason for complaint when they don't giver
it to you? Not so much, me thinks.

However, you're entitled to your expectations, and entitled to
complain when they're not met. IMO, I just don't think your reasons
have very much merit, is all.


== 10 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 4:53 pm
From: BoyerG@BOS001428.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me


Glenn Greenstein <lexa695@hotmail.com> writes:

> The reason you are a fan and why you even watch games is to be
> entertained. the draft and all the little things written and said to
> fans by the media and the CS is also done pure and simply for
> entertainment value so it is fair to say that BB is in the
> entertainment business as much as he is in the pro-football business.
> I want to be entertained.

How is this true? Its a coach's job to entertain us with his words? Is
it the player's job to do the same when they are being interviewed as
well?

The thing I want is a very serious football player that is ready to do
whatever it takes to win on Sunday. And then, with that, I'm
entertained. I'm entertained because of the rawness of the
competition, not because Chad ocho cinco does something funny after
catching a ball.

--
Galen Boyer

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== 11 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 4:55 pm
From: "Marc"

"Nunya Bidnits" <nunyabidnits@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
news:hr7e4v$k7f$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> "Tutor" <dcat4434@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:375f708e-8f61-4263-9522-0191266e6687@l6g2000vbo.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 26, 12:21 pm, Julio <hoolio3sanc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "It was fine. When they schedule them we are there. When it's our
>> turn to pick we'll turn them in. I've done them in one day.
>> I've done them in two days. I've done them in three days.
>> Whatever it is it is...We picked ahead of some teams. We
>> picked behind some teams. We'll see how all that comes together."
>>
>> J.
>
> He is such a joy to read and listen to <sarcasm mode>. Really, why do
> sports writers even bother him? When they have loquaciuos guys like
> Herm Edwards, Rex Ryan and so many others that can give them what they
> are looking for. They should just leave BB to his cave.
>
> ---------------------
>
> Herm Edwards is coaching again? Where should I send the sympathy card?
>
> MartyB in KC
>

Personally, I think BB has Asperger's. Think about it. He has an obvious
discomfort in being around the media; his deadpan delivery when speaking; a
general lack of emotional expression; and his complete and total obsession
and perseverence with knowing everything there is to know about one thing.

That being said, I get a kick out of listening to BB talk to the media.
He's a master at stating the obvious.
You can almost hear him infer "Dumbass!" at the end of every sentence. Who
needs animation?

Marc

== 12 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 4:56 pm
From: BoyerG@BOS001428.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me


"Marc" <dionne1224@suscom-maine.net> writes:

> "Nunya Bidnits" <nunyabidnits@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
> news:hr7e4v$k7f$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> "Tutor" <dcat4434@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:375f708e-8f61-4263-9522-0191266e6687@l6g2000vbo.googlegroups.com...
>> On Apr 26, 12:21 pm, Julio <hoolio3sanc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> "It was fine. When they schedule them we are there. When it's our
>>> turn to pick we'll turn them in. I've done them in one day.
>>> I've done them in two days. I've done them in three days.
>>> Whatever it is it is...We picked ahead of some teams. We
>>> picked behind some teams. We'll see how all that comes together."
>>>
>>> J.
>>
>> He is such a joy to read and listen to <sarcasm mode>. Really, why do
>> sports writers even bother him? When they have loquaciuos guys like
>> Herm Edwards, Rex Ryan and so many others that can give them what they
>> are looking for. They should just leave BB to his cave.
>>
>> ---------------------
>>
>> Herm Edwards is coaching again? Where should I send the sympathy card?
>>
>> MartyB in KC
>>
>
> Personally, I think BB has Asperger's. Think about it. He has an obvious
> discomfort in being around the media; his deadpan delivery when speaking; a
> general lack of emotional expression; and his complete and total obsession
> and perseverence with knowing everything there is to know about one thing.
>
> That being said, I get a kick out of listening to BB talk to the media.
> He's a master at stating the obvious.
> You can almost hear him infer "Dumbass!" at the end of every sentence. Who
> needs animation?

How about his unbelievably disgusting long groweling snorts?

--
Galen Boyer

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== 13 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 5:02 pm
From: MZ


Marc wrote:
> "Nunya Bidnits" <nunyabidnits@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
> news:hr7e4v$k7f$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> "Tutor" <dcat4434@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:375f708e-8f61-4263-9522-0191266e6687@l6g2000vbo.googlegroups.com...
>> On Apr 26, 12:21 pm, Julio <hoolio3sanc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> "It was fine. When they schedule them we are there. When it's our
>>> turn to pick we'll turn them in. I've done them in one day.
>>> I've done them in two days. I've done them in three days.
>>> Whatever it is it is...We picked ahead of some teams. We
>>> picked behind some teams. We'll see how all that comes together."
>>>
>>> J.
>> He is such a joy to read and listen to <sarcasm mode>. Really, why do
>> sports writers even bother him? When they have loquaciuos guys like
>> Herm Edwards, Rex Ryan and so many others that can give them what they
>> are looking for. They should just leave BB to his cave.
>>
>> ---------------------
>>
>> Herm Edwards is coaching again? Where should I send the sympathy card?
>>
>> MartyB in KC
>>
>
> Personally, I think BB has Asperger's. Think about it. He has an obvious
> discomfort in being around the media; his deadpan delivery when speaking; a
> general lack of emotional expression; and his complete and total obsession
> and perseverence with knowing everything there is to know about one thing.
>
> That being said, I get a kick out of listening to BB talk to the media.
> He's a master at stating the obvious.
> You can almost hear him infer "Dumbass!" at the end of every sentence. Who
> needs animation?

I don't think he has a discomfort around the media. I've seen him give
a pleasant interview many times. And sometimes when he's in the middle
of being cold at a press conference, someone will ask him something
about the history of the game and he goes on for 10 minutes with
excitement. I think he has a disdain for cliche questions more than
anything else.


== 14 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 7:22 pm
From: Julio


In article <litbt5l0vtv5qi8liknpgq81vjbl00kki0@4ax.com>
NK wrote:
> I dunno, I find it entertaining to watch him "answer" questions
> while conveying no information at all. I thought "We picked ahead of
> some teams. We picked behind some teams." was pretty funny.

Exactly, that's why I posted it! Didn't know I was going to set
off a long thread. Some people are pretty humorless whenever the
Pats are mentioned though. (Glenn....)


J.


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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 10:48 am
From: "Ray OHara"

"Remy McSwain" <Paradis70080@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jPidnQwzCL1sfEjWnZ2dnUVZ_rudnZ2d@giganews.com...
> In news:hr4dir$24d$1@news.eternal-september.org,
> Ray OHara <raymond-ohara@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70080@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:aLGdnZHw3t9UOUjWnZ2dnUVZ_uKdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>> In
>>> news:51a4ee0f-f8f9-41e5-9b43-00151cff9538@g11g2000yqe.googlegroups.com,
>>> Smithee <ssmith2010@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/13115/belichick-is-nfls-master-draft-pickpocket
>>>>
>>>> Bill Belichick seems like the kind of schemer who'll find a way
>>>> to win somebody else's solitaire game.
>>>
>>> He might be adept at improving the Pats draft position, but
>>> then he blows it with mediocre drafting, at best. I'd rather
>>> have a guy who simply stands pat, and does a great job of
>>> drafting.
>>
>>
>> the Pats haven't been successful enough for you?
>
> Most certainly they have been. Why do you ask?
>

I'd say his players selection works out fine.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 11:25 am
From: "Remy McSwain"


In news:hr781e$5ta$1@news.eternal-september.org,
Ray OHara <raymond-ohara@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70080@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:jPidnQwzCL1sfEjWnZ2dnUVZ_rudnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> In news:hr4dir$24d$1@news.eternal-september.org,
>> Ray OHara <raymond-ohara@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70080@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:aLGdnZHw3t9UOUjWnZ2dnUVZ_uKdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>> In
>>>> news:51a4ee0f-f8f9-41e5-9b43-00151cff9538@g11g2000yqe.googlegroups.com,
>>>> Smithee <ssmith2010@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/13115/belichick-is-nfls-master-draft-pickpocket
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill Belichick seems like the kind of schemer who'll find a
>>>>> way to win somebody else's solitaire game.
>>>>
>>>> He might be adept at improving the Pats draft position, but
>>>> then he blows it with mediocre drafting, at best. I'd rather
>>>> have a guy who simply stands pat, and does a great job of
>>>> drafting.
>>>
>>>
>>> the Pats haven't been successful enough for you?
>>
>> Most certainly they have been. Why do you ask?
>>
>
> I'd say his players selection works out fine.

That's fine, but I disagree. I think that BB has his pluses, and
has his minuses too. I know that it's heresy to say so in some
quarters, but I'll take that chance. My point is that while I think
BB is near genius at game planning, and at getting his players to
understand not only the game specific plan, but also the overall
team approach to football, I also think that after the first couple
of yeas at the Pats, and for whatever reason both the Pats drafts,
and their free agent signings (a la Thomas), have been mediocre, at
best. Moreover, I think the slide in the teams fortunes despite
always having very many draft picks, is evidence of that point.

Ray, I think the notion that as long as the team is winning, the
fans should keep their specific concerns and criticisms to
themselves is a bit silly. There might well be a very compelling
argument that I'm wrong here. But I've yet to see it.

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TOPIC: OT Illegals
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 7:01 pm
From: ZZH770@yahoo.com


I've got a sure fire cure for the illegal allien problem:

Toss every employer who hires an
illegal alien in jail.


== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 7:11 pm
From: "Ray OHara"

<ZZH770@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vm5ft5p22onovpm8a946rh9f16fpnb1q97@4ax.com...
> I've got a sure fire cure for the illegal allien problem:
>
> Toss every employer who hires an
> illegal alien in jail.


Wall Street will never let that happen.


== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 7:17 pm
From: cloud dreamer


On 4/27/2010 11:31 PM, ZZH770@yahoo.com wrote:
> I've got a sure fire cure for the illegal allien problem:
>
> Toss every employer who hires an
> illegal alien in jail.


And you'd be the first one to complain when you find you have to spend
$15 a pint for strawberries.

..


== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 7:27 pm
From: "mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu"


On Apr 27, 10:01 pm, ZZH...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I've got a sure fire cure for the illegal allien problem:
>
> Toss every employer who hires an
> illegal alien in jail.

But then the poor people who "only came here to feed their families"
will starve to death!

Why do you hate children????

Myths about the Arizona Law:

Police will ask people "for their papers" - wrong the law states that
after "lawful contact" (meaning they have been arrested or are
suspects of illegal activity) then the police have the option to view
their citizen status

Myth: All "illegals" in this country are Mexican. Wrong!! Our country
is full of illegals from hundreds of countries

Myth: This is unconstitutional!! Truth the US Constitution covers
American citizens and NOT illegal breaking laws entering our country.

Myth: Mothers will be grabbed away from their children! Truth: What
kind of mother would leave her child in the US? Only an abusive crack
whore would do that. A good mother will take the child back to their
home country.

Myth: We will have to pay $5 for an apple . Truth: If you pay someone
$5 an hour to pick 1000 apples per hour, the cost per apple is 5 cents
per apple. If you pay someone $20 per apple the cost raises just 4
cents per apple. Plus these legal apple pickers will pay taxes and not
clog emergency rooms!

Immigration Counters, a website that collects data on the cost of
illegal immigration to the United States, provides everything we need
to know. Cost of social services for illegal aliens since 1996: $397
billion. Cost of illegal aliens in public schools since 1996: $14
billion. Cost of incarcerations of illegal aliens since 2008: $24
billion.

Myth: Illegals are harmless friendly people looking to escape poverty.
Fact: Mexico is a nice country that has a LOWER unemployment rate than
the US (look it up)! There is no massive starvation in Mexico or other
countries that our illegals come from.

So why do illegals come here?? To exploit our social services and
"live off the largess" of tax paying Americans!

mr dude (I never lie)

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 7:35 pm
From: "mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu"


On Apr 27, 10:27 pm, "mr d...@harvarduniversity.edu"
<foster...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> mr dude (I never lie)

I forgot another HUGE myth:

The illegals are doing jobs that Americans won't do!

The position of garbage collector is obviously not a "fun" or "good"
job yet you don't see ads in the paper all time advertising for "trash
collectors".

Surely, this is not a job an "American won't do"???

The truth is that Americans WILL do any job at the right pay rate.
Illegals artificially lower wages, cheat on taxes and depress the US
job market. Legal Americans take jobs with benefits and stability.

mr dude

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 7:46 pm
From: "mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu"


On Apr 27, 10:17 pm, cloud dreamer <Climate.is.chang...@much.too.fast>
wrote:
> On 4/27/2010 11:31 PM, ZZH...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > I've got a sure fire cure for the illegal allien problem:
>
> > Toss every employer who hires an
> > illegal alien in jail.
>
> And you'd be the first one to complain when you find you have to spend
> $15 a pint for strawberries.
>
>   ..

Awwww, the ginormously fucktarded "$15 a pint for strawberries"
douche bag post!!!

Let's say you pay an illegal $5 per hour to pick 500 pints of
strawberries. That's 10 cents a pint.

Now pay a legal worker $20 per hour to pick 500 pints. That makes the
pint cost four cents more a pint!

Yet Cloud Drugger wants you to think that you are paying $15 a
pint????

Drugs are bad m'kay????

mr dude (why do we allow such stewpid morons to own computers???)

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TOPIC: Toys Cause Obesity! WTG Libs In CA!
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 27 2010 7:05 pm
From: "mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu"


Citing Obesity of Children, County Bans Fast-Food Toys
By JESSE McKINLEY
Published: April 27, 2010

SAN FRANCISCO — It was not a happy day for the Happy Meal.

mr dude (warning to all: do not let your kids eat toys)

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