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Re: Medarticles Current Medical Diagnosis and Treatment (CMDT) 2010

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:2518 Rescuing girls from sex slavery

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http://edition.cnn.com/2010/LIVING/04/29/cnnheroes.koirala.nepal/

By Ebonne Ruffins, CNN
April 30, 2010 -- Updated 2130 GMT (0530 HKT)

Kathmandu, Nepal (CNN) -- Geeta was 9 when she began wearing makeup,
staying up until 2 a.m. and having sex with as many as 60 men a day.

"I used to be really sad and frustrated with what was happening in my
life," she said.

The daughter of Nepalese peasant farmers, Geeta -- now 26 -- had been
sold to a brothel in India by a member of her extended family. The
family member had duped Geeta's visually impaired mother into
believing her daughter would get work at a clothing company in Nepal.

"The brothel where I was ... there [were] many customers coming in
every day. The owner used to verbally abuse us, and if we didn't
comply, [she] would start beating us with wires, rods and hot spoons."

It was not until Geeta was 14 that a police officer rescued her and
brought her to a safe house compound run by Anuradha Koirala. The 61-
year-old woman and her group, Maiti Nepal, have been fighting for more
than 16 years to rescue and rehabilitate thousands of Nepal's sex
trafficking victims.

"Families are tricked all the time," said Koirala. "The trafficking of
the girls is done by people who are basically known to the girls, who
can lure them from the village by telling them they are getting a nice
job. It's a lucrative business."

By raiding brothels, patrolling the India-Nepal border and providing
safe shelter and support services, Koirala and Maiti Nepal have helped
rescue and rehabilitate more than 12,000 Nepali women and girls since
1993.

Do you know someone who should be a CNN Hero? Nominations are open now

According to the U.S. State Department, some 10,000 to 15,000 women
and girls from Nepal are trafficked to India and then sexually
exploited each year.

Koirala's own history in an abusive relationship led her to her
crusade. For most of her young adulthood, she taught primary school
English in Nepal. But when her relationship took a violent turn, her
life's "purpose and responsibility completely changed," she said.

"Every day, there was battering. And then I had three miscarriages
that I think [were] from the beating. It was very difficult because I
didn't know in those days where to go and report [it], who to ... talk
to."
After the relationship ended, Koirala used a portion of her $100
monthly salary to start a small retail shop to employ and support
displaced victims of sex trafficking and domestic violence.
By the early 1990s, an increasing demand for help and persistent cases
of violence against women compelled Koirala to do more. Maiti Nepal
was her brainchild for giving voice, legal defense and rehabilitation
to victims of sex trafficking.

Roughly translated, Maiti means "Mother's Home." The group has
facilities throughout Nepal and India, but most of the rehabilitation
work takes place at its main campus in Kathmandu, Nepal.
Koirala said girls from the brothels arrive empty-handed, sick, in
many cases pregnant or with small children, and "psychologically
broken."

"When the girl first comes to Maiti Nepal, we never, never ask them a
question. We just let them [be] for as long as they need. We let them
play, dance, walk, talk to a friend," Koirala said. "They are afraid
at first, but eventually they will talk to us on their own."

The group also takes in rape and domestic violence survivors, as well
as abandoned children.
"I cannot say no to anybody," Koirala said. "Everybody comes to Maiti
Nepal."

Accommodating its population of close to 400 women and children
requires a large staff of teachers, counselors and medical personnel
-- and dozens of bunk beds. Many of the staff are sex trafficking
survivors now committed to helping rehabilitate other girls. The work
is funded by grants and donations from around the world.

Post-rescue recovery is comprehensive. Maiti Nepal provides medical
treatment, psychological and legal counseling, formal court filings
and criminal prosecution, all for free.

While some of the girls are able to return to their families, many of
them -- particularly those with HIV/AIDS and other sexually
transmitted diseases -- become socially stigmatized and are no longer
welcome in their home communities. For these girls, Maiti Nepal
becomes their new, and possibly last, home. A hospice on the
compound's grounds houses terminally ill patients.

"The hardest part for me is to see a girl dying or coming back with
different diseases at an [age] when she should be out frolicking,"
Koirala said. "That's what fuels me to work harder."

The group's ultimate goal is to help girls become economically
independent and reintegrated into society.

"We try to give them whatever work they want to do, whatever training
they want to do, because when you're economically empowered, people
forget everything. People even forget [she is] HIV-positive or was
trafficked," Koirala said.

Koirala and at least 50 trafficking survivors also participate in what
she calls social preventive work outside the campus. Their community
awareness camps educate families in rural villages and city slums
about the dangers of sex trafficking, and a daily patrol at crossing
points along the India-Nepal border successfully rescues an average of
four Nepali girls a day.

"Our girls are border guards who have been trafficked themselves. They
easily recognize a girl that is being trafficked or will be
trafficked," Koirala said. "The girls need no motivation from me. They
know the horrors of the brothel, and they are here to save their
sisters."

Some girls who are trafficked choose to remain prostitutes for life
because their home villages will not accept them. But Koirala says
that among those rescued by Maiti Nepal, there isn't a single case
when a girl has returned back to the streets.

Geeta's recovery is one of the group's success stories. Today, she
works at Maiti Nepal as a peer educator and also helps with the
group's awareness camps. She credits Koirala and Maiti Nepal for the
strength to keep living and the confidence to join the fight against
sex trafficking.

"Anuradha is a hero. ... She's courageous," Geeta said. "She gave me
my faith back. ... If Maiti Nepal wasn't there for me, I would be dead
by now."

Want to get involved? Check out the Maiti Nepal website and see how to
help.

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:2516 Debate on indigenous peoples and forests among highlights of annual UN forum

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Indigenous boomerangs in the rain forest of Australia

30 April 2010 – The relationship between indigenous peoples and
forests was among the major issues discussed during a two-week forum
at United Nations Headquarters that wrapped up today, with
participants voicing concern about the impact on lives and livelihoods
of deforestation, extraction activities and large-scale building
projects.

The UN Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues is "still very much
concerned about the continuing eviction of indigenous peoples from
their forests," said Victoria Tauli-Corpuz, a member of the Forum
since 2005 and former chairperson.

"This issue is really a very emotional issue for indigenous peoples,
especially indigenous peoples in tropical rainforest countries."

Ms. Tauli-Corpuz, an indigenous activist belonging to the Kankana-ey
Igorot peoples of the Philippines, told a news conference that
evictions were taking place in many indigenous communities due to the
expansion of bio-fuel plantations, conservation programmes such as
national parks, wildlife reserves and biosphere reserves, and the
expansion of extractive industry operations.

Next year is the International Year of Forests, and the Permanent
Forum has to play a very active role to present cases from around the
world, said Ms. Tauli-Corpuz, who has been appointed by the Forum to
prepare a special report on indigenous peoples and forests.

Carlos Mamani, the Chairperson of the Permanent Forum, said the 16-
member body will be adopting recommendations on the issue of
indigenous peoples and forests which it will then forward to next
year's session of the UN Forum on Forests.

"The forests of indigenous peoples have suffered nefarious
consequences due to extraction activities but also because of
colonialism," he noted.

At its current session, the Forum also voiced its grave concern about
the increasing expansion of the building of mega-hydroelectric dams.

"We call on States to implement the World Commission on Dams report,
which contains many of the standards that we think States should
adhere to, in particular that the free, prior and informed consent of
indigenous peoples should be obtained before any dam project is
designed or brought into their communities," said Ms. Tauli-Corpuz.

New Zealand's announcement on the opening day last week that it is
reversing its decision and supporting the UN Declaration on the Rights
of the Indigenous Peoples was another highlight of the current
session.

The landmark document outlines the rights of the world's estimated 370
million indigenous people in areas such as culture, identity,
language, employment, health and education, and outlaws discrimination
against them.

New Zealand was one of four countries – the others being Australia,
Canada and the United States – that voted against the declaration in
2007. Australia reversed its decision last year.

Mr. Mamani said the Permanent Forum welcomed in particular the
announcement by the United States that it will begin the process of
reviewing the declaration with a view to supporting it, as well as a
statement from Canada along the same lines.

Some 2,000 indigenous representatives convened in New York to take
part in the Permanent Forum's ninth session, which focused on the
theme of "Development with Culture and Identity."

The Permanent Forum comprises 16 independent experts, who function in
their personal capacities and serve for a term of three years. Eight
of the members are nominated by governments and eight are nominated
directly by indigenous organizations in their regions.

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:2516 UN chief calls on all nations to join International Criminal Court

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International Criminal Court Headquarters in The Hague

30 April 2010 – Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon today called on every
nation to become a party to the Rome Statute that set up the
International Criminal Court (ICC), stressing the vital role played by
the institution in ending impunity for war crimes, crimes against
humanity and genocide.

"Only once every State has ratified the Rome Statute, and taken the
necessary steps to make it enforceable at the national level, will
there truly be no safe haven for those responsible for the most
egregious crimes that can be committed against the core values of
humankind," Mr. Ban said in remarks at a panel discussion held at UN
Headquarters.

"The ICC is the centrepiece of our system of international criminal
justice," he added. "To be successful, this system requires full
support from the international community."

Mr. Ban noted that universal ratification of the Rome Statute is one
of the main challenges faced by the ICC, an independent, permanent
court based in The Hague.

In this connection, he commended Slovakia on the role it is playing as
facilitator for the plan of action for achieving universality and full
implementation of the Rome Statute, as well as ICC President Judge
Song Sang-Hyun for his outreach campaign.

With last month's ratification of the Rome Statute by Bangladesh, this
effort is now bearing fruit, the Secretary-General noted.

Mr. Ban said he will echo his call for universal ratification of the
Rome Statute next month in Kampala, Uganda, when States parties meet
to take stock of the Court's achievements and to reflect on its
future.

He pledged to do everything in his power to help the Review Conference
produce a meaningful outcome, noting that the UN's efforts to promote
peace, development and human rights are closely linked to the work of
the ICC.

"We need and want the Court to succeed," he stated. "Our partnership
is expanding, for example in the pursuit of justice in post-conflict
societies. I am determined to push forward further still in our common
fight to end impunity and strengthen accountability."

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* Sorry but this is not the Nadal of the old days - 19 new
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* Could Nadal become No.1 after FO by his own efforts? - 11 new
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* It is not just Federer losing... - 8 new
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* Really suspicious - 8 new
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* Feddy loses again... - 5 new
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It is not just Federer losing... - 8 new
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...Damn whisper if I didn't know any better I would think you hated Federer.
However, that can be truth because I read on numerous occasions had you were a
Federer fan. Shit with fans like you who need hater; never seen a fan that
hate their icon / person they supposedly root for spit so much detestation. -
Fri, Apr 30 2010 12:38 pm
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Suspicious - 3 new
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I think by now there is NO doubt about it. You don't go for getting regular
beatdowns(starting on clay in Madrid) for 11 months to suddenly he shows up at
Monte Carlo and he's a Raging Bull. Only 'roids is the explanation. Of course
in Spain they have lots of "doctors" who will put all the masking agents so
that ITF doping never - Fri, Apr 30 2010 12:39 pm
3 messages , 3 authors
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Really suspicious - 8 new
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...He might be! - Fri, Apr 30 2010 12:39 pm
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Nando/Pics semi - 1 new
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Vamos! - Fri, Apr 30 2010 12:46 pm
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Sorry but this is not the Nadal of the old days - 19 new
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...++ :)))))))) Rafa looks strong and sure of himself again... P - Fri, Apr 30
2010 12:51 pm
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Feddy loses again... - 5 new
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today in doubles. - Fri, Apr 30 2010 12:52 pm
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rafa up next - 1 new
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for gulbis...lets see if he has enough left in the tank after beating the goat
in the 1st round - Fri, Apr 30 2010 1:27 pm
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Is Nadal looking more buffed up again, or it just me ? - 2 new
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On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 11:41:30 -0700 (PDT), missy <helenah...@googlemail.com>
wrote: ...the magic fish are biting again? - Fri, Apr 30 2010 2:47 pm
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battle of mental midgets... - 1 new
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...r u gay? - Fri, Apr 30 2010 2:59 pm
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Tiger misses the by a lot! - 1 new
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Federer text message to Tiger: "So hey Tiger now you know what it's like to
have an early exit. Tootles, your BFF Roger XXXX 16 > 14" - Fri, Apr 30 2010 3:
14 pm
1 message, 1 author
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The GOD has arrived on court! - 5 new
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...Has Estoril started already? - Fri, Apr 30 2010 3:42 pm
5 messages , 4 authors
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Stan gets 5 games. how many games will that other Swiss player get vs. Rafa on
clay? - 1 new
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discuss! - Fri, Apr 30 2010 3:49 pm
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Stan at his best - still only 5 games - 2 new
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...sorry, missed your thread before posting. (Jaros?) - Fri, Apr 30 2010 3:50
pm
2 messages , 2 authors
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how come Murray doesn't do better on clay? - 4 new
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...nice post. However, it still is hard to accept that there are many players
better than the world #5, one of the few people who can beat Roger or Rafa in
an ATP match. - Fri, Apr 30 2010 4:50 pm
4 messages , 3 authors
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Give it up to Nadal. Lets just move on to the grass already - 5 new
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Nobody can compete with Nadal this year. Hes playing better than ever on clay
and is hungry. The one player who could - Del Potro with his height and huge
flat hitting - may be a no show. Theres nothing to see. Lets jus move on folks.
- Fri, Apr 30 2010 5:14 pm
5 messages , 5 authors
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Just looked at Estoril draw - 2 new
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hehe the toughest competition is Clownfils/Ljube. Easy title. If Roger doesn't
win this, then it's time to press the PANIC button. - Fri, Apr 30 2010 6:07 pm

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"'If Fed loses early in the French, what does THAT even mean? I mean, why
should we "worry"? Are we afraid he's not going to win 34 Slams or something -
2 new
-----
?" - Fri, Apr 30 2010 6:15 pm
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discuss - 1 new
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~~ - Fri, Apr 30 2010 6:16 pm
1 message, 1 author
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Andy Murray back on track after blaming mental exhaustion for worst losing
streak - 1 new
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And he insists he has recovered from a bout of mental fatigue and is back on
track. "Everyone's panicking saying 'what's your problem?'," he said. "I
played a couple of bad tournaments - it happens sometimes. "Roger's had a
couple of bad weeks, it happens to everybody. "I went away, worked hard and
got my mind right - I think mentally I was a bit - Fri, Apr 30 2010 6:20 pm
1 message, 1 author
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Roger Federer is Dead - Long Live Roger Federer - 1 new
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Roger Federer's surprising slump reached a new low in Rome." Japan Times "He
is suffering something of a wobble." Daily Mail "Changing of the guard? Not
quite. Shifting of the guard? Absolutely." ESPN.com The rug was pulled out
from under Rome and all of tennis yesterday when Roger Federer dumped out to
Ernests 'practice is for losers' - Fri, Apr 30 2010 6:22 pm
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Could Nadal become No.1 after FO by his own efforts? - 11 new
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...Whether you 'grudge' anything is completely irrelevant. Facts are Rafa is
the better player. ...er, none of these guys beat Rafa in a slam final. Rafa
beat Fed in 5 slam finals on all 3 surfaces. Don't be dumber than absolutely
necessary. - Fri, Apr 30 2010 6:23 pm
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Roger is taller than Nadal - 5 new
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federer's 6'1 and nadal's 6'0 - Fri, Apr 30 2010 6:31 pm
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If Nadal played right-handed... - 3 new
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*** Warning!!! Controversial Post *** OK time to liven things up here a bit.
This place is becoming like deadsville. If Nadal played right-handed he would
be half the player he is today. Similarly, if Federer played left-handed he
would be twice the player he is today (scary). Of course the two couldn't
happen at the same time or they would - Fri, Apr 30 2010 7:14 pm
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OT: Proof that I am an insightful music fan as well - 3 new
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I alway used to say to my friends Bruce Dickinson's (of Iron Maiden) voice and
style of singing was a mix of Ian Gillan (of Deep Purple) and Peter Hammill (
Van der Graaf Generator). See, what a genius I am... [link] - Let's talk a bit
about your influences. I think, you were influenced - Fri, Apr 30 2010 7:16 pm

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Del Potro: Redux....enigma... - 1 new
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Wtf is going on. This new article came out today...I don't speak Spanish, but
the translation seems to suggest that he has psychological problems? The whole
thing smacks a lot of bullshoit. I'm wondering if something has happened...
like wasn't he caught in some nightclub earlier in the year with some tramp or
other? Conceivable that he has taken some banned substance and - Fri, Apr 30
2010 7:23 pm
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All this ... - 1 new
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"Nadal is better than Fed because he beat Fed in some Slam finals ..." reminds
me of the story that happens in every family: Younger brother always loses to
older brother, but one day he beat him so he goes to father and says "Dad, I
beat him today. I'm better than him!". Fed fans: Let's deign them this "
triumph". ;-) - Fri, Apr 30 2010 7:42 pm
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Nadal vs. Gulbis - 1 new
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Let's see how Nadal does against the man that sent Rogi packing... - Fri, Apr
30 2010 10:11 pm
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Like the Bushes still don;t have enough $$$ so they have to lie ? - 1 new
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
German hotel hits back at Laura Bush 'poison' theory [link] Perhaps GW needs a
new bicycle ? - Fri, Apr 30 2010 10:14 pm
1 message, 1 author
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ElBaradei Says Sanctions on Iran Will Fail - 1 new
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Double standards: Israel is allowed to have a zillion nukes. Iran gets nuked
if they get close to having even one. That's a peace formula doomed to fail !
ElBaradei Says Sanctions on Iran Will Fail Saturday 30 April 2011 by: C. M.
Sennott | GlobalPost Medford, Mass. — Mohamed ElBaradei, former head of the
United Nations nuclear - Fri, Apr 30 2010 10:32 pm
1 message, 1 author
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WORST PERFORMANCE OF CAREER: Tiger Woods misses cut... - 1 new
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[link] - Fri, Apr 30 2010 11:30 pm
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* With this pick, the Denver Broncos select, the next Jamarcus Russell - 3
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* I am Drewfus.... hear me WHINE! - 3 messages, 3 authors
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* Classic Belichick Quotes on the Draft - 11 messages, 3 authors
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* OT drill baby drill - 1 messages, 1 author
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 29 2010 11:07 pm
From: "Ray OHara"

"SEC Soft Scheduler" <lightweights@sec.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9D69E03E7231ART709@94.75.214.90...
> Tebow.
>
> Another NFL experiment, another failure from the SEC.
>

we'll see.
to equate Russel with Tebow says you know squat about either player.


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 30 2010 10:47 am
From: Cleatarrior


On 4/29/2010 10:02 PM, SEC Soft Scheduler wrote:
> Tebow.
>
> Another NFL experiment, another failure from the SEC.
>
Even that "failure" Grossman got the Bears into the SB.


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 30 2010 12:03 pm
From: "Nunya Bidnits"

"Cleatarrior" <cleatarrior@foot.invaild> wrote in message
news:hrf52u$pd6$4@news.datemas.de...
> On 4/29/2010 10:02 PM, SEC Soft Scheduler wrote:
>> Tebow.
>>
>> Another NFL experiment, another failure from the SEC.
>>
> Even that "failure" Grossman got the Bears into the SB.

Did you really mean to imply that Tebow might be Ronald McDaniels answer to
making a Superbowl?

Personally, I hope he puts Tebow under center right away. However I doubt
the rest of the AFCW will be that lucky.

Let's see... Orton is the best QB on the roster, which means it's time to
trade him away, making Tebow the understudy to Brady Quinn.

MartyB in KC


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TOPIC: I am Drewfus.... hear me WHINE!
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 30 2010 3:06 am
From: "droobee's nightmare"


:-D

Poor Drewfus....

Turning over his entire life over to an obcession
has gotten out of hand.

It is my understanding that he is losing both
sleep and weight. Medication MAY be the answer,
and maybe some talk therapy too.

Or maybe it's like that old Seinfeld epsiode featuring a
painting entitled "The Kramer," in which Kramer's portrait
was painted and hung in a gallery. An elderly couple was
then seen to be viewing it and the man says to his wife,
"It disgusting... it's vile... it's revolting...
... AND YET I CAN'T LOOK AWAY!"

Maybe it just that...

RävNstärd® ~ Drew JUST CAN'T LOOK AWAY!

:-D

> Drew ~ RävNstärd ® "...I'm can't help it! *Strickland* is in my head
> and my ass!" - April 15, 2009
>
> "...I guess I really crave *Rocky* nuts... Stroking my own doesn't
> work... I've got a limp dick!" - Feb 23, 2010

> Drew ~ RävNstärd® "Talk is cheap... lets go play" - John Unitas


Unitas was overrated.

12/18/60
49ers 34
Colts 10
Unitas throws 3 interceptions in this game,
24 interceptions during 1960 season.

12/9/61
Rams 34
Colts 17
Johnny U throws 1 interception in this game,
24 interceptions during 1961 season.

12/1/62
Lions 21
Colts 14
Johnny U throws 2 interceptions in this game,
23 interceptions during 1962 season.

11/3/63
Bears 17
Colts 7
Unitas throws 1 interception in this game,
12 interceptions during 1963 season.

12/27/64
Browns 27
Colts 0
Unitas throws 2 interceptions in NFL Championship Game.

12/26/65
Packers 13
Colts 10
Johnny U throws 12 interceptions during 1965 season.

11/27/66
Rams 23
Colts 7
Unitas throws 24 interceptions during 1966 season.

12/17/67
Rams 34
Colts 10
Unitas throws 16 interceptions during the 1967 season.

1/12/69
Jets 16
Colts 7
Unitas throws 1 interception in Super Bowl III.

11/22/70
Dolphins 34
Colts 17
Unitas throws 2 interceptions in this game,
18 interceptions during 1970 season.

9/24/72
Jets 44
Colts 34
Unitas throws 6 interceptions in 8 games played
during 1972 season.

Meanwhile, Steelers win 6 Super Bowls.
http://tinyurl.com/nlstgp

The NFL team owner Baltimore can't match.
http://tinyurl.com/2avxol8

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 30 2010 5:20 pm
From: "Farrel McFarrel"


This post by RävNsfän ® is gay, but not happy gay.

"RävNsfän ®" <rustylombardi@ravens2010.org> wrote in message
news:4bda65d5$0$2345$b42602f9@news.qis.net...
> "droobee" drew_is_my_master@gay_browns_fan_in_ne_ohio.com wrote in message
> news:steelerssuck$brownsswallow$h$3@newssteveois.eternally-queer.org...
>
> How much more deeply could any one person be in both your ass and mind? I
> have fucked your skull so thoroughly over the years that you can no longer
> control your bodily functions. You have dedicated every stinky breath
> filled
> moment of your life to me to demonstrate for me that I am your hero.
>
> Your worship and obvious respect for my mastery over you all these many
> years is echoed in your dedication and continued refusal to sleep, bathe
> and
> eat, preferring to remain awake like every drug addict does, diligently
> searching Google for lyrics, posting links never clicked on and dedicating
> your songs all in my honor to acknowledge my mastery over your spineless
> being.. As the next sun rises you are still jonesing for my attention and
> approval as you remain hard at work searching Google and posting links
> with
> bloodshot eyes, hoping against hope that your efforts draw even one
> response
> from me, regardless of how minor or how abusive. You earned that much so
> enjoy this small treat. It should fuel you well beyond 2012, if the Mayan
> calendar proves wrong.
>
> Drew ~
> RävNsfän ®
>
> "...I'm sending him (RävNsfän ®) to the kill file,
> I suggest the rest of you do the same".
> *Strickland* - April 15, 2009
>
> "...I guess I'll go back to my previous habit
> of just ignoring your (RävNsfän ®) posts..."
> *Rocky* (the nutless squirrel) - Feb 23, 2010
>
>
>
>
>


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 30 2010 6:56 pm
From: Ernie


On Apr 30, 8:20 pm, "Farrel McFarrel" <farrelMcFar...@ion.net> wrote:
> This post by RävNsfän ® is gay, but not happy gay.
>
> "RävNsfän ®" <rustylomba...@ravens2010.org> wrote in message
>
> news:4bda65d5$0$2345$b42602f9@news.qis.net...
>
>
>
> > "droobee" drew_is_my_master@gay_browns_fan_in_ne_ohio.com wrote in message
> >news:steelerssuck$brownsswallow$h$3@newssteveois.eternally-queer.org...
>
> > How much more deeply could any one person be in both your ass and mind? I
> > have fucked your skull so thoroughly over the years that you can no longer
> > control your bodily functions. You have dedicated every stinky breath
> > filled
> > moment of your life to me to demonstrate for me that I am your hero.
>
> > Your worship and obvious respect for my mastery over you all these many
> > years is echoed in your dedication and continued refusal to sleep, bathe
> > and
> > eat, preferring to remain awake like every drug addict does, diligently
> > searching Google for lyrics, posting links never clicked on and dedicating
> > your songs all in my honor to acknowledge my mastery over your spineless
> > being.. As the next sun rises you are still jonesing for my attention and
> > approval as you remain hard at work searching Google and posting links
> > with
> > bloodshot eyes, hoping against hope that your efforts draw even one
> > response
> > from me, regardless of how minor or how abusive. You earned that much so
> > enjoy this small treat. It should fuel you well beyond 2012, if the Mayan
> > calendar proves wrong.
>
> >     Drew     ~
> >     RävNsfän ®
>
> >     "...I'm sending him (RävNsfän ®) to the kill file,
> >          I suggest the rest of you do the same".
> >                  *Strickland* - April 15, 2009
>
> >     "...I guess I'll go back to my previous habit
> >     of just ignoring your (RävNsfän ®) posts..."
> >   *Rocky* (the nutless squirrel) - Feb 23, 2010- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The old pussy and asshole farrel is an expert on all things gay. Ernie

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 30 2010 3:28 am
From: "droobee's nightmare"


Except for your wifey fucking the UPS guy while you're away,
you imagined the rest.

Your obsession has overwhelmed you.

Now go see a urologist for your limp dick.

You may yet get wifey back.

> Drew ~ RävNstärd ® "...I'm can't help it! *Strickland* is in my head
> and my ass!" - April 15, 2009
>
> Drew ~ RävNstärd ®
> "...I guess I really crave *Rocky* nuts... Stroking my own doesn't work...
> I've got a limp dick!" - Feb 23, 2010
>
> Drew ~ RävNstärd ®
> "Talk is cheap... lets go gay" - #19 Johnny Cocksucker

Drew ~ RävNstärd® whining at old Baltimore Memorial Stadium.
http://tinyurl.com/2dxvgld

Robert Irsay says he's tired of whiners like Drew.
http://tinyurl.com/2wg6qdy

Colts leave Baltimore in the middle of the night.
http://tinyurl.com/284n4f8

Meanwhile, Steelers win 6 Super Bowls.
http://tinyurl.com/nlstgp

Baltimore achieves recognition as crime-infested city.
http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2010/tables/10s0298.pdf

The book RävNstärd ® won't dare read.
(Ignorance is Bliss!)
http://tinyurl.com/2avxol8


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== 1 of 11 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 30 2010 4:09 am
From: "Remy McSwain"


In news:hrddak$coc$1@news.eternal-september.org,
PatsSox <PatsSox@NErawks.com> wrote:
> "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70080@gmail.com> wrote in message ...
>> In Glenn Greenstein <lexa695@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Apr 27, 7:53 pm,
>>> Boy...@BOS001428.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--
>>> so-tickle-me wrote:
>>>> Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> writes:
>>>>> The reason you are a fan and why you even watch games is to
>>>>> be entertained. the draft and all the little things written
>>>>> and said to fans by the media and the CS is also done pure
>>>>> and simply for entertainment value so it is fair to say that
>>>>> BB is in the entertainment business as much as he is in the
>>>>> pro-football business. I want to be entertained.
>>>>
>>>> How is this true? Its a coach's job to entertain us with his
>>>> words? Is it the player's job to do the same when they are
>>>> being interviewed as well?
>>>>
>>>> The thing I want is a very serious football player that is
>>>> ready to do whatever it takes to win on Sunday. And then, with
>>>> that, I'm entertained. I'm entertained because of the rawness
>>>> of the competition, not because Chad ocho cinco does something
>>>> funny after catching a ball.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Galen Boyer
>>>>
>>>> --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints:
>>>> n...@netfront.net ---
>>>
>>> And what you just described is entertaining and I personally am
>>> entertained by that, not when a HC thinks he is so far above
>>> everyone in an ivory tower that he answers a question in a way
>>> that makes you think he thinks everyone in the audience and in
>>> the room are so far beneath him that he can throw you any kind
>>> of crumbs and you will say "Thank you sir, may I have another".
>>
>> WOW! I have a feeling that you're very easily offended. The
>> fact that he doesn't want the public to know more than he does
>> may well be for many different reasons. Why would you assume
>> that it's because he thinks he's above everyone else?
>
>
> People should read, "The Education of a Coach" by David
> Halberstam. Great book that explains a lot about why Belichick
> has little use for the inane questions asked by the press.
> Anyone in New England who has seen Belichick on Patriots
> All Access knows the man has a sense of humor. Anyone who
> doubts the man can be entertaining.... when it is appropriate...
> has never seen this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzbMP7pLRkA
> Saying nothing to the press has worked thus far.... I love
> that he answers questions without answering them... and that he
> has taught his players that the less they say the better off
> they'll all be.

I fully agree. Thanks for the added insight.


== 2 of 11 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 30 2010 6:30 am
From: Glenn Greenstein


On Apr 28, 4:27 pm, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Innews:6919f352-1657-45d4-bedc-62a3877a6c77@i10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com,
>
>
>
> Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 27, 7:53 pm,
> > Boy...@BOS001428.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address-- so-tickle-me
> > wrote:
> >> Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> writes:
> >>> The reason you are a fan and why you even watch games is to be
> >>> entertained. the draft and all the little things written and
> >>> said to fans by the media and the CS is also done pure and
> >>> simply for entertainment value so it is fair to say that BB is
> >>> in the entertainment business as much as he is in the
> >>> pro-football business. I want to be entertained.
>
> >> How is this true? Its a coach's job to entertain us with his
> >> words? Is it the player's job to do the same when they are
> >> being interviewed as well?
>
> >> The thing I want is a very serious football player that is
> >> ready to do whatever it takes to win on Sunday. And then, with
> >> that, I'm entertained. I'm entertained because of the rawness
> >> of the competition, not because Chad ocho cinco does something
> >> funny after catching a ball.
>
> >> --
> >> Galen Boyer
>
> >> --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints:
> >> n...@netfront.net ---
>
> > And what you just described is entertaining and I personally am
> > entertained by that, not when a HC thinks he is so far above
> > everyone in an ivory tower that he answers a question in a way
> > that makes you think he thinks everyone in the audience and in
> > the room are so far beneath him that he can throw you any kind
> > of crumbs and you will say "Thank you sir, may I have another".
>
> WOW!  I have a feeling that you're very easily offended.  The fact
> that he doesn't want the public to know more than he does may well
> be for many different reasons.  Why would you assume that it's
> because he thinks he's above everyone else?

Actually Remy, I think you have been immersed in BB's shit so long
that you can't tell when he is being rude or not. There are ways of
telling you something without belittling someone. Stating the obvious
when you answer a question is rude unless you think you are speaking
to a moron. When BB was asked how the draft went, what would have been
wrong with answering like this.
"It was fine. As you all know the draft takes a few years to realize
how you did but we made what we felt were the best choices for the
team".
See what I mean. That is also stating the obvious and give zero
insight to what the Pats were thinking going in and how they did but
without stating the obvious.


== 3 of 11 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 30 2010 6:33 am
From: Glenn Greenstein


On Apr 29, 9:55 pm, "PatsSox" <Pats...@NErawks.com> wrote:
> "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com> wrote in message ...
> > In  Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Apr 27, 7:53 pm,
> >> Boy...@BOS001428.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address-- so-tickle-me
> >> wrote:
> >>> Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> writes:
> >>>> The reason you are a fan and why you even watch games is to be
> >>>> entertained. the draft and all the little things written and
> >>>> said to fans by the media and the CS is also done pure and
> >>>> simply for entertainment value so it is fair to say that BB is
> >>>> in the entertainment business as much as he is in the
> >>>> pro-football business. I want to be entertained.
>
> >>> How is this true? Its a coach's job to entertain us with his
> >>> words? Is it the player's job to do the same when they are
> >>> being interviewed as well?
>
> >>> The thing I want is a very serious football player that is
> >>> ready to do whatever it takes to win on Sunday. And then, with
> >>> that, I'm entertained. I'm entertained because of the rawness
> >>> of the competition, not because Chad ocho cinco does something
> >>> funny after catching a ball.
>
> >>> --
> >>> Galen Boyer
>
> >>> --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints:
> >>> n...@netfront.net ---
>
> >> And what you just described is entertaining and I personally am
> >> entertained by that, not when a HC thinks he is so far above
> >> everyone in an ivory tower that he answers a question in a way
> >> that makes you think he thinks everyone in the audience and in
> >> the room are so far beneath him that he can throw you any kind
> >> of crumbs and you will say "Thank you sir, may I have another".
>
> > WOW!  I have a feeling that you're very easily offended.  The fact that he
> > doesn't want the public to know more than he does may well be for many
> > different reasons.  Why would you assume that it's because he thinks he's
> > above everyone else?
>
>        People should read, "The Education of a Coach" by David Halberstam.
> Great book that explains a lot about why Belichick has little use for the
> inane questions asked by the press.
>        Anyone in New England who has seen Belichick on Patriots All Access
> knows the man has a sense of humor.    Anyone who doubts the man can be
> entertaining.... when it is appropriate... has never seen this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzbMP7pLRkA
>        Saying nothing to the press has worked thus far.... I love that he
> answers questions without answering them... and that he has taught his
> players that the less they say the better off they'll all be.

I haven't read the book nor will I but I do have this comment.
I have seen that clip before and I will say it was a great thing BB
did to be part of such a good cause and event but the only reason that
would seem like he has a sense of humor is because otherwise he is
such a troll. I mean other than actually going up on stage and singing
the words dead or alive during the chorus, what made him so
entertaining? He clapped his hands after Weiss started, I'll give him
that.


== 4 of 11 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 30 2010 7:08 am
From: MZ


Glenn Greenstein wrote:
> On Apr 29, 9:55 pm, "PatsSox" <Pats...@NErawks.com> wrote:
>> "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com> wrote in message ...
>>> In Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Apr 27, 7:53 pm,
>>>> Boy...@BOS001428.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address-- so-tickle-me
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> writes:
>>>>>> The reason you are a fan and why you even watch games is to be
>>>>>> entertained. the draft and all the little things written and
>>>>>> said to fans by the media and the CS is also done pure and
>>>>>> simply for entertainment value so it is fair to say that BB is
>>>>>> in the entertainment business as much as he is in the
>>>>>> pro-football business. I want to be entertained.
>>>>> How is this true? Its a coach's job to entertain us with his
>>>>> words? Is it the player's job to do the same when they are
>>>>> being interviewed as well?
>>>>> The thing I want is a very serious football player that is
>>>>> ready to do whatever it takes to win on Sunday. And then, with
>>>>> that, I'm entertained. I'm entertained because of the rawness
>>>>> of the competition, not because Chad ocho cinco does something
>>>>> funny after catching a ball.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Galen Boyer
>>>>> --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints:
>>>>> n...@netfront.net ---
>>>> And what you just described is entertaining and I personally am
>>>> entertained by that, not when a HC thinks he is so far above
>>>> everyone in an ivory tower that he answers a question in a way
>>>> that makes you think he thinks everyone in the audience and in
>>>> the room are so far beneath him that he can throw you any kind
>>>> of crumbs and you will say "Thank you sir, may I have another".
>>> WOW! I have a feeling that you're very easily offended. The fact that he
>>> doesn't want the public to know more than he does may well be for many
>>> different reasons. Why would you assume that it's because he thinks he's
>>> above everyone else?
>> People should read, "The Education of a Coach" by David Halberstam.
>> Great book that explains a lot about why Belichick has little use for the
>> inane questions asked by the press.
>> Anyone in New England who has seen Belichick on Patriots All Access
>> knows the man has a sense of humor. Anyone who doubts the man can be
>> entertaining.... when it is appropriate... has never seen this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzbMP7pLRkA
>> Saying nothing to the press has worked thus far.... I love that he
>> answers questions without answering them... and that he has taught his
>> players that the less they say the better off they'll all be.
>
> I haven't read the book nor will I but I do have this comment.
> I have seen that clip before and I will say it was a great thing BB
> did to be part of such a good cause and event but the only reason that
> would seem like he has a sense of humor is because otherwise he is
> such a troll. I mean other than actually going up on stage and singing
> the words dead or alive during the chorus, what made him so
> entertaining? He clapped his hands after Weiss started, I'll give him
> that.

Yeah, that's more like a "how to look like a tard in public" moment.

I think he gives good interviews when he wants to though. His pre-draft
interview was really good. I remember his Letterman interview after the
first super bowl too. I really think his issue is that he thinks the
questions being asked are stupid and cliche and he responds in kind.


== 5 of 11 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 30 2010 8:06 am
From: "Remy McSwain"


In
news:40cd0c03-f228-4c45-99fb-c22e0df7a321@i10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com,
Glenn Greenstein <lexa695@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 28, 4:27 pm, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Innews:6919f352-1657-45d4-bedc-62a3877a6c77@i10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com,
>>
>>
>>
>> Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Apr 27, 7:53 pm,
>>> Boy...@BOS001428.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--
>>> so-tickle-me wrote:
>>>> Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> writes:
>>>>> The reason you are a fan and why you even watch games is to
>>>>> be entertained. the draft and all the little things written
>>>>> and said to fans by the media and the CS is also done pure
>>>>> and simply for entertainment value so it is fair to say that
>>>>> BB is in the entertainment business as much as he is in the
>>>>> pro-football business. I want to be entertained.
>>
>>>> How is this true? Its a coach's job to entertain us with his
>>>> words? Is it the player's job to do the same when they are
>>>> being interviewed as well?
>>
>>>> The thing I want is a very serious football player that is
>>>> ready to do whatever it takes to win on Sunday. And then, with
>>>> that, I'm entertained. I'm entertained because of the rawness
>>>> of the competition, not because Chad ocho cinco does something
>>>> funny after catching a ball.
>>
>>>> --
>>>> Galen Boyer
>>
>>>> --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints:
>>>> n...@netfront.net ---
>>
>>> And what you just described is entertaining and I personally am
>>> entertained by that, not when a HC thinks he is so far above
>>> everyone in an ivory tower that he answers a question in a way
>>> that makes you think he thinks everyone in the audience and in
>>> the room are so far beneath him that he can throw you any kind
>>> of crumbs and you will say "Thank you sir, may I have another".
>>
>> WOW! I have a feeling that you're very easily offended. The fact
>> that he doesn't want the public to know more than he does may
>> well be for many different reasons. Why would you assume that
>> it's because he thinks he's above everyone else?
>
> Actually Remy, I think you have been immersed in BB's shit so
> long that you can't tell when he is being rude or not. There are
> ways of telling you something without belittling someone.
> Stating the obvious when you answer a question is rude unless
> you think you are speaking to a moron. When BB was asked how the
> draft went, what would have been wrong with answering like this.
> "It was fine. As you all know the draft takes a few years to
> realize how you did but we made what we felt were the best
> choices for the team".
> See what I mean. That is also stating the obvious and give zero
> insight to what the Pats were thinking going in and how they did
> but without stating the obvious.

OK, Glenn. I frankly don't see how your wording would've been any
less insulting by your own standards. Either stating the obvious is
rude because it assumes that the audience is too ignorant to see
that it's a non-answer in disguise, or it's not. Therefore, I could
make just as good a case that your wording is just as insulting.

Anyway, I'm done beating this one around. As Galen said, when you
take the whole body of the guys work on EEI, and on All Patriots
Access, and in other forums, he comes off as anything but
condescending. He's entertaining, humorous, and very informative.

But if passionate fans of arch-rival teams who envy the three SB
rings he's earned partially at their team's expense, while it's been
forever since their own team has even gotten to the game where they
can win one for themselves, want to see him as condescending, then I
guess they can find a way to do it. :-)


== 6 of 11 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 30 2010 9:40 am
From: Glenn Greenstein


On Apr 30, 11:06 am, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Innews:40cd0c03-f228-4c45-99fb-c22e0df7a321@i10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com,
>
>
>
> Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 28, 4:27 pm, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> Innews:6919f352-1657-45d4-bedc-62a3877a6c77@i10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com,
>
> >> Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Apr 27, 7:53 pm,
> >>> Boy...@BOS001428.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--
> >>> so-tickle-me wrote:
> >>>> Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> writes:
> >>>>> The reason you are a fan and why you even watch games is to
> >>>>> be entertained. the draft and all the little things written
> >>>>> and said to fans by the media and the CS is also done pure
> >>>>> and simply for entertainment value so it is fair to say that
> >>>>> BB is in the entertainment business as much as he is in the
> >>>>> pro-football business. I want to be entertained.
>
> >>>> How is this true? Its a coach's job to entertain us with his
> >>>> words? Is it the player's job to do the same when they are
> >>>> being interviewed as well?
>
> >>>> The thing I want is a very serious football player that is
> >>>> ready to do whatever it takes to win on Sunday. And then, with
> >>>> that, I'm entertained. I'm entertained because of the rawness
> >>>> of the competition, not because Chad ocho cinco does something
> >>>> funny after catching a ball.
>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Galen Boyer
>
> >>>> --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints:
> >>>> n...@netfront.net ---
>
> >>> And what you just described is entertaining and I personally am
> >>> entertained by that, not when a HC thinks he is so far above
> >>> everyone in an ivory tower that he answers a question in a way
> >>> that makes you think he thinks everyone in the audience and in
> >>> the room are so far beneath him that he can throw you any kind
> >>> of crumbs and you will say "Thank you sir, may I have another".
>
> >> WOW! I have a feeling that you're very easily offended. The fact
> >> that he doesn't want the public to know more than he does may
> >> well be for many different reasons. Why would you assume that
> >> it's because he thinks he's above everyone else?
>
> > Actually Remy, I think you have been immersed in BB's shit so
> > long that you can't tell when he is being rude or not. There are
> > ways of telling you something without belittling someone.
> > Stating the obvious when you answer a question is rude unless
> > you think you are speaking to a moron. When BB was asked how the
> > draft went, what would have been wrong with answering like this.
> > "It was fine. As you all know the draft takes a few years to
> > realize how you did but we made what we felt were the best
> > choices for the team".
> > See what I mean. That is also stating the obvious and give zero
> > insight to what the Pats were thinking going in and how they did
> > but without stating the obvious.
>
> OK, Glenn.  I frankly don't see how your wording would've been any
> less insulting by your own standards.  Either stating the obvious is
> rude because it assumes that the audience is too ignorant to see
> that it's a non-answer in disguise, or it's not.  Therefore, I could
> make just as good a case that your wording is just as insulting.
>
> Anyway, I'm done beating this one around.  As Galen said, when you
> take the whole body of the guys work on EEI, and on All Patriots
> Access, and in other forums, he comes off as anything but
> condescending.  He's entertaining, humorous, and very informative.
>
> But if passionate fans of arch-rival teams who envy the three SB
> rings he's earned partially at their team's expense, while it's been
> forever since their own team has even gotten to the game where they
> can win one for themselves, want to see him as condescending, then I
> guess they can find a way to do it.  :-)

Oh, I just love it when you Pat fans play the jealousy card. I should
be telling you that is getting old as well. How long has it been since
your team won a playoff game let alone a SB?


== 7 of 11 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 30 2010 10:27 am
From: "Remy McSwain"


Glenn Greenstein wrote:
> On Apr 30, 11:06 am, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Innews:40cd0c03-f228-4c45-99fb-c22e0df7a321@i10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com,
>>
>>
>>
>> Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Apr 28, 4:27 pm, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Innews:6919f352-1657-45d4-bedc-62a3877a6c77@i10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com,
>>
>>>> Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 27, 7:53 pm,
>>>>> Boy...@BOS001428.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--
>>>>> so-tickle-me wrote:
>>>>>> Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> writes:
>>>>>>> The reason you are a fan and why you even watch games is to
>>>>>>> be entertained. the draft and all the little things written
>>>>>>> and said to fans by the media and the CS is also done pure
>>>>>>> and simply for entertainment value so it is fair to say that
>>>>>>> BB is in the entertainment business as much as he is in the
>>>>>>> pro-football business. I want to be entertained.
>>
>>>>>> How is this true? Its a coach's job to entertain us with his
>>>>>> words? Is it the player's job to do the same when they are
>>>>>> being interviewed as well?
>>
>>>>>> The thing I want is a very serious football player that is
>>>>>> ready to do whatever it takes to win on Sunday. And then, with
>>>>>> that, I'm entertained. I'm entertained because of the rawness
>>>>>> of the competition, not because Chad ocho cinco does something
>>>>>> funny after catching a ball.
>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Galen Boyer
>>
>>>>>> --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints:
>>>>>> n...@netfront.net ---
>>
>>>>> And what you just described is entertaining and I personally am
>>>>> entertained by that, not when a HC thinks he is so far above
>>>>> everyone in an ivory tower that he answers a question in a way
>>>>> that makes you think he thinks everyone in the audience and in
>>>>> the room are so far beneath him that he can throw you any kind
>>>>> of crumbs and you will say "Thank you sir, may I have another".
>>
>>>> WOW! I have a feeling that you're very easily offended. The fact
>>>> that he doesn't want the public to know more than he does may
>>>> well be for many different reasons. Why would you assume that
>>>> it's because he thinks he's above everyone else?
>>
>>> Actually Remy, I think you have been immersed in BB's shit so
>>> long that you can't tell when he is being rude or not. There are
>>> ways of telling you something without belittling someone.
>>> Stating the obvious when you answer a question is rude unless
>>> you think you are speaking to a moron. When BB was asked how the
>>> draft went, what would have been wrong with answering like this.
>>> "It was fine. As you all know the draft takes a few years to
>>> realize how you did but we made what we felt were the best
>>> choices for the team".
>>> See what I mean. That is also stating the obvious and give zero
>>> insight to what the Pats were thinking going in and how they did
>>> but without stating the obvious.
>>
>> OK, Glenn. I frankly don't see how your wording would've been any
>> less insulting by your own standards. Either stating the obvious is
>> rude because it assumes that the audience is too ignorant to see
>> that it's a non-answer in disguise, or it's not. Therefore, I could
>> make just as good a case that your wording is just as insulting.
>>
>> Anyway, I'm done beating this one around. As Galen said, when you
>> take the whole body of the guys work on EEI, and on All Patriots
>> Access, and in other forums, he comes off as anything but
>> condescending. He's entertaining, humorous, and very informative.
>>
>> But if passionate fans of arch-rival teams who envy the three SB
>> rings he's earned partially at their team's expense, while it's been
>> forever since their own team has even gotten to the game where they
>> can win one for themselves, want to see him as condescending, then I
>> guess they can find a way to do it. :-)
>
> Oh, I just love it when you Pat fans play the jealousy card. I should
> be telling you that is getting old as well. How long has it been since
> your team won a playoff game let alone a SB?

You must be a hoot at parties. Lighten up, Glenn. This is all about
"entertainment", remember? It's not about health care, education, or war.
Sheeeeeeeeeeeesh!


== 8 of 11 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 30 2010 1:17 pm
From: Glenn Greenstein


On Apr 30, 1:27 pm, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Glenn Greenstein wrote:
> > On Apr 30, 11:06 am, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Innews:40cd0c03-f228-4c45-99fb-c22e0df7a321@i10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com,
>
> >> Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Apr 28, 4:27 pm, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Innews:6919f352-1657-45d4-bedc-62a3877a6c77@i10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com,
>
> >>>> Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Apr 27, 7:53 pm,
> >>>>> Boy...@BOS001428.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--
> >>>>> so-tickle-me wrote:
> >>>>>> Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> writes:
> >>>>>>> The reason you are a fan and why you even watch games is to
> >>>>>>> be entertained. the draft and all the little things written
> >>>>>>> and said to fans by the media and the CS is also done pure
> >>>>>>> and simply for entertainment value so it is fair to say that
> >>>>>>> BB is in the entertainment business as much as he is in the
> >>>>>>> pro-football business. I want to be entertained.
>
> >>>>>> How is this true? Its a coach's job to entertain us with his
> >>>>>> words? Is it the player's job to do the same when they are
> >>>>>> being interviewed as well?
>
> >>>>>> The thing I want is a very serious football player that is
> >>>>>> ready to do whatever it takes to win on Sunday. And then, with
> >>>>>> that, I'm entertained. I'm entertained because of the rawness
> >>>>>> of the competition, not because Chad ocho cinco does something
> >>>>>> funny after catching a ball.
>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Galen Boyer
>
> >>>>>> --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints:
> >>>>>> n...@netfront.net ---
>
> >>>>> And what you just described is entertaining and I personally am
> >>>>> entertained by that, not when a HC thinks he is so far above
> >>>>> everyone in an ivory tower that he answers a question in a way
> >>>>> that makes you think he thinks everyone in the audience and in
> >>>>> the room are so far beneath him that he can throw you any kind
> >>>>> of crumbs and you will say "Thank you sir, may I have another".
>
> >>>> WOW! I have a feeling that you're very easily offended. The fact
> >>>> that he doesn't want the public to know more than he does may
> >>>> well be for many different reasons. Why would you assume that
> >>>> it's because he thinks he's above everyone else?
>
> >>> Actually Remy, I think you have been immersed in BB's shit so
> >>> long that you can't tell when he is being rude or not. There are
> >>> ways of telling you something without belittling someone.
> >>> Stating the obvious when you answer a question is rude unless
> >>> you think you are speaking to a moron. When BB was asked how the
> >>> draft went, what would have been wrong with answering like this.
> >>> "It was fine. As you all know the draft takes a few years to
> >>> realize how you did but we made what we felt were the best
> >>> choices for the team".
> >>> See what I mean. That is also stating the obvious and give zero
> >>> insight to what the Pats were thinking going in and how they did
> >>> but without stating the obvious.
>
> >> OK, Glenn. I frankly don't see how your wording would've been any
> >> less insulting by your own standards. Either stating the obvious is
> >> rude because it assumes that the audience is too ignorant to see
> >> that it's a non-answer in disguise, or it's not. Therefore, I could
> >> make just as good a case that your wording is just as insulting.
>
> >> Anyway, I'm done beating this one around. As Galen said, when you
> >> take the whole body of the guys work on EEI, and on All Patriots
> >> Access, and in other forums, he comes off as anything but
> >> condescending. He's entertaining, humorous, and very informative.
>
> >> But if passionate fans of arch-rival teams who envy the three SB
> >> rings he's earned partially at their team's expense, while it's been
> >> forever since their own team has even gotten to the game where they
> >> can win one for themselves, want to see him as condescending, then I
> >> guess they can find a way to do it. :-)
>
> > Oh, I just love it when you Pat fans play the jealousy card. I should
> > be telling you that is getting old as well. How long has it been since
> > your team won a playoff game let alone a SB?
>
> You must be a hoot at parties.  Lighten up, Glenn.  This is all about
> "entertainment", remember?    It's not about health care, education, or war.
> Sheeeeeeeeeeeesh!

Yeah, you accuse me of having ring envy and I should lighten up.


== 9 of 11 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 30 2010 2:11 pm
From: "Remy McSwain"


In
news:3a544f75-cece-4f82-8128-a6c17ab93557@y36g2000yqm.googlegroups.com,
Glenn Greenstein <lexa695@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 30, 1:27 pm, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Glenn Greenstein wrote:
>>> On Apr 30, 11:06 am, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Innews:40cd0c03-f228-4c45-99fb-c22e0df7a321@i10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com,
>>
>>>> Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 28, 4:27 pm, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Innews:6919f352-1657-45d4-bedc-62a3877a6c77@i10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com,
>>
>>>>>> Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 7:53 pm,
>>>>>>> Boy...@BOS001428.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--
>>>>>>> so-tickle-me wrote:
>>>>>>>> Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> writes:
>>>>>>>>> The reason you are a fan and why you even watch games is
>>>>>>>>> to be entertained. the draft and all the little things
>>>>>>>>> written and said to fans by the media and the CS is also
>>>>>>>>> done pure and simply for entertainment value so it is
>>>>>>>>> fair to say that BB is in the entertainment business as
>>>>>>>>> much as he is in the pro-football business. I want to be
>>>>>>>>> entertained.
>>
>>>>>>>> How is this true? Its a coach's job to entertain us with
>>>>>>>> his words? Is it the player's job to do the same when
>>>>>>>> they are being interviewed as well?
>>
>>>>>>>> The thing I want is a very serious football player that is
>>>>>>>> ready to do whatever it takes to win on Sunday. And then,
>>>>>>>> with that, I'm entertained. I'm entertained because of
>>>>>>>> the rawness of the competition, not because Chad ocho
>>>>>>>> cinco does something funny after catching a ball.
>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Galen Boyer
>>
>>>>>>>> --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints:
>>>>>>>> n...@netfront.net ---
>>
>>>>>>> And what you just described is entertaining and I
>>>>>>> personally am entertained by that, not when a HC thinks he
>>>>>>> is so far above everyone in an ivory tower that he answers
>>>>>>> a question in a way that makes you think he thinks
>>>>>>> everyone in the audience and in the room are so far
>>>>>>> beneath him that he can throw you any kind of crumbs and
>>>>>>> you will say "Thank you sir, may I have another".
>>
>>>>>> WOW! I have a feeling that you're very easily offended. The
>>>>>> fact that he doesn't want the public to know more than he
>>>>>> does may well be for many different reasons. Why would you
>>>>>> assume that it's because he thinks he's above everyone else?
>>
>>>>> Actually Remy, I think you have been immersed in BB's shit so
>>>>> long that you can't tell when he is being rude or not. There
>>>>> are ways of telling you something without belittling someone.
>>>>> Stating the obvious when you answer a question is rude unless
>>>>> you think you are speaking to a moron. When BB was asked how
>>>>> the draft went, what would have been wrong with answering
>>>>> like this. "It was fine. As you all know the draft takes a
>>>>> few years to realize how you did but we made what we felt
>>>>> were the best choices for the team".
>>>>> See what I mean. That is also stating the obvious and give
>>>>> zero insight to what the Pats were thinking going in and how
>>>>> they did but without stating the obvious.
>>
>>>> OK, Glenn. I frankly don't see how your wording would've been
>>>> any less insulting by your own standards. Either stating the
>>>> obvious is rude because it assumes that the audience is too
>>>> ignorant to see that it's a non-answer in disguise, or it's
>>>> not. Therefore, I could make just as good a case that your
>>>> wording is just as insulting.
>>
>>>> Anyway, I'm done beating this one around. As Galen said, when
>>>> you take the whole body of the guys work on EEI, and on All
>>>> Patriots Access, and in other forums, he comes off as
>>>> anything but condescending. He's entertaining, humorous, and
>>>> very informative.
>>
>>>> But if passionate fans of arch-rival teams who envy the three
>>>> SB rings he's earned partially at their team's expense, while
>>>> it's been forever since their own team has even gotten to the
>>>> game where they can win one for themselves, want to see him
>>>> as condescending, then I guess they can find a way to do it.
>>>> :-)
>>
>>> Oh, I just love it when you Pat fans play the jealousy card. I
>>> should be telling you that is getting old as well. How long
>>> has it been since your team won a playoff game let alone a SB?
>>
>> You must be a hoot at parties. Lighten up, Glenn. This is all
>> about "entertainment", remember? It's not about health care,
>> education, or war. Sheeeeeeeeeeeesh!
>
> Yeah, you accuse me of having ring envy and I should lighten up.

Glenn, I didn't 'accuse' you of anything. I suggested some aspect
of human nature in a very lighthearted way. Maybe you should stop
thinking that everyone is out to insult or attack you in some way.
BB wasn't insulting you by refusing to answer questions that he
either thinks are silly, or because he doesn't want to divulge
certain information. I wasn't "accusing" you of anything at all
except to boast a little bit about the Pats 3 rings, and that maybe
your view of BB would be skewed a little by the fact that the 3 X SB
winning Pats are an arch-rival of the Jets. It's just human nature,
and even then, I said it all in the spirit of the fun that people
have with "entertaining" sports.

If that offended you, then I'm not really sorry. Instead, maybe you
should just realize that the whole "my team is better than your
team" is just a good natured part of the "entertainment" value of
sports. After all, I didn't say nothin about yo Momma, did I?
REally, Glenn. Accused? Really?


== 10 of 11 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 30 2010 2:47 pm
From: Glenn Greenstein


On Apr 30, 5:11 pm, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Innews:3a544f75-cece-4f82-8128-a6c17ab93557@y36g2000yqm.googlegroups.com,
>
>
>
> Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 30, 1:27 pm, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> Glenn Greenstein wrote:
> >>> On Apr 30, 11:06 am, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Innews:40cd0c03-f228-4c45-99fb-c22e0df7a321@i10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com,
>
> >>>> Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Apr 28, 4:27 pm, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> Innews:6919f352-1657-45d4-bedc-62a3877a6c77@i10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com,
>
> >>>>>> Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Apr 27, 7:53 pm,
> >>>>>>> Boy...@BOS001428.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--
> >>>>>>> so-tickle-me wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> writes:
> >>>>>>>>> The reason you are a fan and why you even watch games is
> >>>>>>>>> to be entertained. the draft and all the little things
> >>>>>>>>> written and said to fans by the media and the CS is also
> >>>>>>>>> done pure and simply for entertainment value so it is
> >>>>>>>>> fair to say that BB is in the entertainment business as
> >>>>>>>>> much as he is in the pro-football business. I want to be
> >>>>>>>>> entertained.
>
> >>>>>>>> How is this true? Its a coach's job to entertain us with
> >>>>>>>> his words? Is it the player's job to do the same when
> >>>>>>>> they are being interviewed as well?
>
> >>>>>>>> The thing I want is a very serious football player that is
> >>>>>>>> ready to do whatever it takes to win on Sunday. And then,
> >>>>>>>> with that, I'm entertained. I'm entertained because of
> >>>>>>>> the rawness of the competition, not because Chad ocho
> >>>>>>>> cinco does something funny after catching a ball.
>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Galen Boyer
>
> >>>>>>>> --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints:
> >>>>>>>> n...@netfront.net ---
>
> >>>>>>> And what you just described is entertaining and I
> >>>>>>> personally am entertained by that, not when a HC thinks he
> >>>>>>> is so far above everyone in an ivory tower that he answers
> >>>>>>> a question in a way that makes you think he thinks
> >>>>>>> everyone in the audience and in the room are so far
> >>>>>>> beneath him that he can throw you any kind of crumbs and
> >>>>>>> you will say "Thank you sir, may I have another".
>
> >>>>>> WOW! I have a feeling that you're very easily offended. The
> >>>>>> fact that he doesn't want the public to know more than he
> >>>>>> does may well be for many different reasons. Why would you
> >>>>>> assume that it's because he thinks he's above everyone else?
>
> >>>>> Actually Remy, I think you have been immersed in BB's shit so
> >>>>> long that you can't tell when he is being rude or not. There
> >>>>> are ways of telling you something without belittling someone.
> >>>>> Stating the obvious when you answer a question is rude unless
> >>>>> you think you are speaking to a moron. When BB was asked how
> >>>>> the draft went, what would have been wrong with answering
> >>>>> like this. "It was fine. As you all know the draft takes a
> >>>>> few years to realize how you did but we made what we felt
> >>>>> were the best choices for the team".
> >>>>> See what I mean. That is also stating the obvious and give
> >>>>> zero insight to what the Pats were thinking going in and how
> >>>>> they did but without stating the obvious.
>
> >>>> OK, Glenn. I frankly don't see how your wording would've been
> >>>> any less insulting by your own standards. Either stating the
> >>>> obvious is rude because it assumes that the audience is too
> >>>> ignorant to see that it's a non-answer in disguise, or it's
> >>>> not. Therefore, I could make just as good a case that your
> >>>> wording is just as insulting.
>
> >>>> Anyway, I'm done beating this one around. As Galen said, when
> >>>> you take the whole body of the guys work on EEI, and on All
> >>>> Patriots Access, and in other forums, he comes off as
> >>>> anything but condescending. He's entertaining, humorous, and
> >>>> very informative.
>
> >>>> But if passionate fans of arch-rival teams who envy the three
> >>>> SB rings he's earned partially at their team's expense, while
> >>>> it's been forever since their own team has even gotten to the
> >>>> game where they can win one for themselves, want to see him
> >>>> as condescending, then I guess they can find a way to do it.
> >>>> :-)
>
> >>> Oh, I just love it when you Pat fans play the jealousy card. I
> >>> should be telling you that is getting old as well. How long
> >>> has it been since your team won a playoff game let alone a SB?
>
> >> You must be a hoot at parties. Lighten up, Glenn. This is all
> >> about "entertainment", remember? It's not about health care,
> >> education, or war. Sheeeeeeeeeeeesh!
>
> > Yeah, you accuse me of having ring envy and I should lighten up.
>
> Glenn, I didn't 'accuse' you of anything.  I suggested some aspect
> of human nature in a very lighthearted way.  Maybe you should stop
> thinking that everyone is out to insult or attack you in some way.
> BB wasn't insulting you by refusing to answer questions that he
> either thinks are silly, or because he doesn't want to divulge
> certain information.  I wasn't "accusing" you of anything at all
> except to boast a little bit about the Pats 3 rings, and that maybe
> your view of BB would be skewed a little by the fact that the 3 X SB
> winning Pats are an arch-rival of the Jets.  It's just human nature,
> and even then, I said it all in the spirit of the fun that people
> have with "entertaining" sports.
>
> If that offended you, then I'm not really sorry.  Instead, maybe you
> should just realize that the whole "my team is better than your
> team" is just a good natured part of the "entertainment" value of
> sports.  After all, I didn't say nothin about yo Momma, did I?
> REally, Glenn.  Accused?  Really?

Remey, I'm going to give you a pass here. You are new to this place
and probably don't know the majority of Pat fans that come here are
assholes who make boasts of how great the Pats are and how the Jets
are just a bunch of slugs. We even have a nice contingent that bash NY
itself, one in particular that says he doesn't even consider NY part
of the USA.
If you are going to be a good contributing poster, then I welcome you
and hope to have a lot of good give and take with you as I do with
MZ.
Sorry if I misjudged you, it's just I'm a rude fucking NYer ;-)
Oh, and I still think BB is a conceded ass :-p


== 11 of 11 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 30 2010 7:52 pm
From: "Remy McSwain"


Glenn Greenstein wrote:
> On Apr 30, 5:11 pm, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Innews:3a544f75-cece-4f82-8128-a6c17ab93557@y36g2000yqm.googlegroups.com,
>>
>>
>>
>> Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Apr 30, 1:27 pm, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Glenn Greenstein wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 30, 11:06 am, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Innews:40cd0c03-f228-4c45-99fb-c22e0df7a321@i10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com,
>>
>>>>>> Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Apr 28, 4:27 pm, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Innews:6919f352-1657-45d4-bedc-62a3877a6c77@i10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com,
>>
>>>>>>>> Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 7:53 pm,
>>>>>>>>> Boy...@BOS001428.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--
>>>>>>>>> so-tickle-me wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>> The reason you are a fan and why you even watch games is
>>>>>>>>>>> to be entertained. the draft and all the little things
>>>>>>>>>>> written and said to fans by the media and the CS is also
>>>>>>>>>>> done pure and simply for entertainment value so it is
>>>>>>>>>>> fair to say that BB is in the entertainment business as
>>>>>>>>>>> much as he is in the pro-football business. I want to be
>>>>>>>>>>> entertained.
>>
>>>>>>>>>> How is this true? Its a coach's job to entertain us with
>>>>>>>>>> his words? Is it the player's job to do the same when
>>>>>>>>>> they are being interviewed as well?
>>
>>>>>>>>>> The thing I want is a very serious football player that is
>>>>>>>>>> ready to do whatever it takes to win on Sunday. And then,
>>>>>>>>>> with that, I'm entertained. I'm entertained because of
>>>>>>>>>> the rawness of the competition, not because Chad ocho
>>>>>>>>>> cinco does something funny after catching a ball.
>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Galen Boyer
>>
>>>>>>>>>> --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints:
>>>>>>>>>> n...@netfront.net ---
>>
>>>>>>>>> And what you just described is entertaining and I
>>>>>>>>> personally am entertained by that, not when a HC thinks he
>>>>>>>>> is so far above everyone in an ivory tower that he answers
>>>>>>>>> a question in a way that makes you think he thinks
>>>>>>>>> everyone in the audience and in the room are so far
>>>>>>>>> beneath him that he can throw you any kind of crumbs and
>>>>>>>>> you will say "Thank you sir, may I have another".
>>
>>>>>>>> WOW! I have a feeling that you're very easily offended. The
>>>>>>>> fact that he doesn't want the public to know more than he
>>>>>>>> does may well be for many different reasons. Why would you
>>>>>>>> assume that it's because he thinks he's above everyone else?
>>
>>>>>>> Actually Remy, I think you have been immersed in BB's shit so
>>>>>>> long that you can't tell when he is being rude or not. There
>>>>>>> are ways of telling you something without belittling someone.
>>>>>>> Stating the obvious when you answer a question is rude unless
>>>>>>> you think you are speaking to a moron. When BB was asked how
>>>>>>> the draft went, what would have been wrong with answering
>>>>>>> like this. "It was fine. As you all know the draft takes a
>>>>>>> few years to realize how you did but we made what we felt
>>>>>>> were the best choices for the team".
>>>>>>> See what I mean. That is also stating the obvious and give
>>>>>>> zero insight to what the Pats were thinking going in and how
>>>>>>> they did but without stating the obvious.
>>
>>>>>> OK, Glenn. I frankly don't see how your wording would've been
>>>>>> any less insulting by your own standards. Either stating the
>>>>>> obvious is rude because it assumes that the audience is too
>>>>>> ignorant to see that it's a non-answer in disguise, or it's
>>>>>> not. Therefore, I could make just as good a case that your
>>>>>> wording is just as insulting.
>>
>>>>>> Anyway, I'm done beating this one around. As Galen said, when
>>>>>> you take the whole body of the guys work on EEI, and on All
>>>>>> Patriots Access, and in other forums, he comes off as
>>>>>> anything but condescending. He's entertaining, humorous, and
>>>>>> very informative.
>>
>>>>>> But if passionate fans of arch-rival teams who envy the three
>>>>>> SB rings he's earned partially at their team's expense, while
>>>>>> it's been forever since their own team has even gotten to the
>>>>>> game where they can win one for themselves, want to see him
>>>>>> as condescending, then I guess they can find a way to do it.
>>>>>> :-)
>>
>>>>> Oh, I just love it when you Pat fans play the jealousy card. I
>>>>> should be telling you that is getting old as well. How long
>>>>> has it been since your team won a playoff game let alone a SB?
>>
>>>> You must be a hoot at parties. Lighten up, Glenn. This is all
>>>> about "entertainment", remember? It's not about health care,
>>>> education, or war. Sheeeeeeeeeeeesh!
>>
>>> Yeah, you accuse me of having ring envy and I should lighten up.
>>
>> Glenn, I didn't 'accuse' you of anything. I suggested some aspect
>> of human nature in a very lighthearted way. Maybe you should stop
>> thinking that everyone is out to insult or attack you in some way.
>> BB wasn't insulting you by refusing to answer questions that he
>> either thinks are silly, or because he doesn't want to divulge
>> certain information. I wasn't "accusing" you of anything at all
>> except to boast a little bit about the Pats 3 rings, and that maybe
>> your view of BB would be skewed a little by the fact that the 3 X SB
>> winning Pats are an arch-rival of the Jets. It's just human nature,
>> and even then, I said it all in the spirit of the fun that people
>> have with "entertaining" sports.
>>
>> If that offended you, then I'm not really sorry. Instead, maybe you
>> should just realize that the whole "my team is better than your
>> team" is just a good natured part of the "entertainment" value of
>> sports. After all, I didn't say nothin about yo Momma, did I?
>> REally, Glenn. Accused? Really?
>
> Remey, I'm going to give you a pass here.

That's a rather condecending comment from someone who claims to abhore it,
and so thanks, Glenn, but I'll pass on the pass.

> You are new to this place
> and probably don't know the majority of Pat fans that come here are
> assholes who make boasts of how great the Pats are and how the Jets
> are just a bunch of slugs. We even have a nice contingent that bash NY
> itself, one in particular that says he doesn't even consider NY part
> of the USA.
> If you are going to be a good contributing poster, then I welcome you
> and hope to have a lot of good give and take with you as I do with
> MZ.
> Sorry if I misjudged you, it's just I'm a rude fucking NYer ;-)
> Oh, and I still think BB is a conceded ass :-p

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Date: Fri, Apr 30 2010 10:30 am
From: A1247@gmail.com


In light of the disaster in the Gulf of Mexico it's time shut down the
oil industry until they step up to the plate when it comes to cleaning
up spills.

Even with record profits the oil companies have proven they
can't handle spills.


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