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Today's topics:
* Bloodbath and a Cleansing - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/3d02b6977bd089f6?hl=en
* Is Lemond the only successful cyclist that wasn't a doper? - 6 messages, 5
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/6f6290e3194b29d8?hl=en
* Vuelta snubs Ratshack - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/7534d2e483553aa4?hl=en
* LA's Big F*$king Deal - 5 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/c1a1eed745739fa4?hl=en
* Need source for presta valve extenders - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/4673c5e794f74fb1?hl=en
* Sweater Meat - 5 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/107acd5389d77061?hl=en
* Road ID - Stupidiest idea ever ? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/01935f5ba3d2fa3e?hl=en
* TDF 2010 prospective winners - TdS on Thursay and Sunday... - 3 messages, 2
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/3b5893ae469217fd?hl=en
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TOPIC: Bloodbath and a Cleansing
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/3d02b6977bd089f6?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jun 16 2010 10:50 pm
From: Fred on a stick
On 6/16/2010 5:19 PM, Brad Anders wrote:
>> I think you mean Ted Kaczynski.
>
> Oh, you did mean Ted Streleski, I forgot all about him!
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Streleski
>
> I guess either Ted would apply....
Both were mathematicians in the Bay Area and I briefly considered
Kaczynski but his anger was diffuse while Streleski's was singularly
focused on one individual. I think that fits Lemond better.
I try never to make fun of students' shoes.
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TOPIC: Is Lemond the only successful cyclist that wasn't a doper?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/6f6290e3194b29d8?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 17 2010 1:45 am
From: S Perryman
Anton Berlin wrote:
> On Jun 16, 3:38 pm, S Perryman <a...@a.net> wrote:
>>Anton Berlin wrote:
>>>I tried to give my girlfriend a little history of the problem and
>>>couldn't find think of a rider that wasn't caught or later confessed -
>>>I could only think of Lemond.
>>Hinault ?? Fignon ?? Roche ?? Hampsten ?? Indurain ??
> Roche - we know
AFAIK, during his second stint at Carrera (1993) the whole team was
implicated. And I meant Mr Conconi, not Mr Ferrari (oops) .
During the time of his 1987 triumphs, debatable.
> Indurain - we damn well know
Know what ??
It helps to state what you "know" : clean or doper.
I recall there was an alleged steroid detected in a blood test in the
early 1990s, with implications via Pedro Delgado and the 1988 TdF incident
(Delgado and Indurain being long-serving riders in the same Reynolds/
Banesto team setups) .
> Hampsten
As clean as driven snow ??
> Fignon - admitted doper
Yes.
> Hinault - unsure but close enough with lemond to boost
Hinault is by far the first worst of the lot - genetically splicing
himself with animal DNA (look at his face : the Brundle-blaireau) ...
Regards,
Steven Perryman
== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 17 2010 6:17 am
From: --D-y
On Jun 17, 3:45 am, S Perryman <a...@a.net> wrote:
> Anton Berlin wrote:
> > On Jun 16, 3:38 pm, S Perryman <a...@a.net> wrote:
> >>Anton Berlin wrote:
> >>>I tried to give my girlfriend a little history of the problem and
> >>>couldn't find think of a rider that wasn't caught or later confessed -
> >>>I could only think of Lemond.
> >>Hinault ?? Fignon ?? Roche ?? Hampsten ?? Indurain ??
> > Roche - we know
>
> AFAIK, during his second stint at Carrera (1993) the whole team was
> implicated. And I meant Mr Conconi, not Mr Ferrari (oops) .
>
> During the time of his 1987 triumphs, debatable.
>
> > Indurain - we damn well know
>
> Know what ??
> It helps to state what you "know" : clean or doper.
>
> I recall there was an alleged steroid detected in a blood test in the
> early 1990s, with implications via Pedro Delgado and the 1988 TdF incident
> (Delgado and Indurain being long-serving riders in the same Reynolds/
> Banesto team setups) .
>
> > Hampsten
>
> As clean as driven snow ??
>
> > Fignon - admitted doper
>
> Yes.
>
> > Hinault - unsure but close enough with lemond to boost
>
> Hinault is by far the first worst of the lot - genetically splicing
> himself with animal DNA (look at his face : the Brundle-blaireau) ...
>
> Regards,
> Steven Perryman
Masking agent, Delgado.
--D-y
== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 17 2010 7:29 am
From: S Perryman
--D-y wrote:
> Masking agent, Delgado.
Wasn't the claim that the detected "material" got into his body by
taking normal prescription (for mortals) medicine ??
But yes, as I stated this is an implication linkage to Indurain.
Regards,
Steven Perryman
== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 17 2010 7:30 am
From: Anton Berlin
On Jun 17, 3:45 am, S Perryman <a...@a.net> wrote:
> Anton Berlin wrote:
> > On Jun 16, 3:38 pm, S Perryman <a...@a.net> wrote:
> >>Anton Berlin wrote:
> >>>I tried to give my girlfriend a little history of the problem and
> >>>couldn't find think of a rider that wasn't caught or later confessed -
> >>>I could only think of Lemond.
> >>Hinault ?? Fignon ?? Roche ?? Hampsten ?? Indurain ??
> > Roche - we know
>
> AFAIK, during his second stint at Carrera (1993) the whole team was
> implicated. And I meant Mr Conconi, not Mr Ferrari (oops) .
>
> During the time of his 1987 triumphs, debatable.
>
> > Indurain - we damn well know
>
> Know what ??
> It helps to state what you "know" : clean or doper.
>
> I recall there was an alleged steroid detected in a blood test in the
> early 1990s, with implications via Pedro Delgado and the 1988 TdF incident
> (Delgado and Indurain being long-serving riders in the same Reynolds/
> Banesto team setups) .
>
> > Hampsten
>
> As clean as driven snow ??
>
> > Fignon - admitted doper
>
> Yes.
>
> > Hinault - unsure but close enough with lemond to boost
>
> Hinault is by far the first worst of the lot - genetically splicing
> himself with animal DNA (look at his face : the Brundle-blaireau) ...
>
> Regards,
> Steven Perryman
Run a distribution on the height and weight of every successful
cyclist and then consider the chance that a guy that size could win in
the mountains of the TdF against smaller men also juiced on EPO.
And yes Hinault isn't guilty of just knowing Greg.
And Coggan, there is a spirit to the rules as well as the letter. I
recall but can't be sure there was a general caveat since Montreal
that medical procedures to assist performance were a violation. But
like most things only if someone elses catches you in the act.
Like BP this is the first time they've spilled large amounts of oil in
the ocean, just the first time we noticed. (ok this time it's
massive)
== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 17 2010 7:47 am
From: Fred Flintstein
On 6/17/2010 9:29 AM, S Perryman wrote:
> --D-y wrote:
>
>> Masking agent, Delgado.
>
> Wasn't the claim that the detected "material" got into his body by
> taking normal prescription (for mortals) medicine ??
That was only because he didn't think to blame it on his dog.
Fred Flintstein
== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 17 2010 11:31 am
From: Frederick the Great
In article
<12c01b5c-10fe-46c9-8613-2cb81205325d@t26g2000prt.googlegroups.com>,
Anton Berlin <truth_88888@yahoo.com> wrote:
> And Coggan, there is a spirit to the rules as well as the letter. I
> recall but can't be sure there was a general caveat since Montreal
> that medical procedures to assist performance were a violation. But
> like most things only if someone elses catches you in the act.
Everything a professional rider does is to boost his performance,
including visits to his physician. Perhaps we should keep riders
in pens the way we do rodeo bulls, and only let them out to ride.
--
Old Fritz
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TOPIC: Vuelta snubs Ratshack
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/7534d2e483553aa4?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 17 2010 1:54 am
From: S Perryman
hargow20@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Jun 16, 1:34 pm, S Perryman <a...@a.net> wrote:
>>Does the team current UCI ranking allow for such treatment ??
>>1. Difficult IMHO to turn away a top 10 team from a grand tour unless there
>>is an 'Astana 2007' situation involved etc.
>>2. Turning away the #20 team, with no big name rider etc, in favour of
>>others (local interests etc) , is hardly an issue.
>>If #2 applies, more fool Bruyneel for not building/running a team that
>>gets the ranking points in a season or rides sufficiently well in certain
>>races to be noted/worthy for invitation to a grand tour.
> Part of the problem is that Radioshack is a new team with a lot of top
> riders with few stars that are winning big races with the exception of
> the Dauphine-Libre.
The issue AFAIK is that at best the rider rankings are on a 12 month
rolling calculation. So if all these "top riders" are doing nothing since
say the 2009 TdF, their points totals are dwindling away.
I tried a quick search on the UCI rankings, and one source stated that
of April 2010, Radioshack were #15. As of last week, are they better/
same/worse ??
Regards,
Steven Perryman
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 17 2010 6:16 am
From: Keith
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 21:58:05 -0700, Frederick the Great
<lostit@the.movies> wrote:
>In article
><259f420d-2a3c-4fa8-8bc9-04ef0359c7d1@e5g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
> Brad Anders <pbanders@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jun 14, 6:57Êpm, "derFah...@gmail.com" <derfah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Jun 14, 9:29Êpm, Keith <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > That's a good one :http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bruyneel-speechless-after-vuelta-snub...
>> > > Hard to feel sorry for Bruyneel, LA's conman but hard to explain all
>> > > the same...they must know something we don't in Spain.
>> >
>> > the (apparently unrecognized) irony in your Schadenfreude is that had
>> > LA been on the roster they likely would have been in.
>>
>> That's how I read the organizer's response, too. They'd have been
>> insane not to have invited RatShack if LA was riding. Like any
>> business, the Vuelta organizers want to maximize their profits, having
>> LA there would have been a huge boost.
>
>Why won't Armstrong ride the Vuelta?
>Does he have something else planned?
Brings back bad memories of promising to go there to help Heras win
it...
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 17 2010 6:17 am
From: Keith
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 21:34:35 +0100, S Perryman <a@a.net> wrote:
>Does the team current UCI ranking allow for such treatment ??
>
>1. Difficult IMHO to turn away a top 10 team from a grand tour unless there
>is an 'Astana 2007' situation involved etc.
>
>2. Turning away the #20 team, with no big name rider etc, in favour of
>others (local interests etc) , is hardly an issue.
Yes and now we're finding that neither Leppy or Kloden were going to
race after all, another lie by Bruynel when he was being a cry baby
earlier this week.
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TOPIC: LA's Big F*$king Deal
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/c1a1eed745739fa4?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 17 2010 3:32 am
From: "B. Lafferty"
On 6/17/2010 1:22 AM, Scott wrote:
> On Jun 16, 6:53 pm, "B. Lafferty"<b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> On 6/16/2010 8:30 PM, TheCoz wrote:>http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/post/Lance-Armstrong-rips-magazine-for-...
>>> What comes around, goes around. Maybe Outside Mag is jumping the gun.
>>> Landis/Lemond underground printing press release?
>>> Coz
>>
>> It's amazing they would raise the question on the cover they way they
>> do. He also doesn't look well in the photo. It may just be the camera
>> angle, but his cheeks look rather sunken in.
>
> D'uh, he always looks like that when he's at fighting, er... racing
> weight. Tough to have puffy cheeks when you're around 4, maybe 5%
> body fat.
I understand all that. It's subjective, but his face looks particularly
sunken. Perhaps it's also part of aging. I recall a photo of Hinault
climbing in a TdF where he looked like a 40 year old even though he was
in his twenties.
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 17 2010 3:41 am
From: "z, fred"
B. Lafferty wrote:
> On 6/17/2010 1:22 AM, Scott wrote:
>> On Jun 16, 6:53 pm, "B. Lafferty"<b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> On 6/16/2010 8:30 PM, TheCoz
>>> wrote:>http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/post/Lance-Armstrong-rips-magazine-for-...
>>>
>>>> What comes around, goes around. Maybe Outside Mag is jumping the gun.
>>>> Landis/Lemond underground printing press release?
>>>> Coz
>>>
>>> It's amazing they would raise the question on the cover they way they
>>> do. He also doesn't look well in the photo. It may just be the camera
>>> angle, but his cheeks look rather sunken in.
>>
>> D'uh, he always looks like that when he's at fighting, er... racing
>> weight. Tough to have puffy cheeks when you're around 4, maybe 5%
>> body fat.
> I understand all that. It's subjective, but his face looks particularly
> sunken. Perhaps it's also part of aging. I recall a photo of Hinault
> climbing in a TdF where he looked like a 40 year old even though he was
> in his twenties.
I had presumed his appearance was intentionally meant to look as
(naturally) old as possible. It works with the story.
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 17 2010 7:51 am
From: Andy Coggan
On Jun 16, 7:30 pm, TheCoz <cycled...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/post/Lance-Armstrong-rips-magazine-for-...
> What comes around, goes around. Maybe Outside Mag is jumping the gun.
> Landis/Lemond underground printing press release?
> Coz
Apparently the journalistic ethics of Outside Magazine are no higher
than those of Perez Hilton:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/showbiz/2010/06/16/behar.miley.photo.panel.cnn?hpt=T2
Andy Coggan
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 17 2010 8:55 am
From: "B. Lafferty"
On 6/17/2010 10:51 AM, Andy Coggan wrote:
> On Jun 16, 7:30 pm, TheCoz<cycled...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/post/Lance-Armstrong-rips-magazine-for-...
>> What comes around, goes around. Maybe Outside Mag is jumping the gun.
>> Landis/Lemond underground printing press release?
>> Coz
>
> Apparently the journalistic ethics of Outside Magazine are no higher
> than those of Perez Hilton:
>
> http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/showbiz/2010/06/16/behar.miley.photo.panel.cnn?hpt=T2
>
> Andy Coggan
Outside Magazine has a pretty good reputation for hard-nosed reporting.
IIRC, they printed and article or excerpt fro the Dan Coyle's book on
Armstrong which Armstrong found less than flattering. I think Coyle
said at the time that he didn't expect to be on Armstrong's Christmas
card list.
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 17 2010 11:25 am
From: "Kurgan. presented by Gringioni."
On Jun 17, 8:55 am, "B. Lafferty" <b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On 6/17/2010 10:51 AM, Andy Coggan wrote:> On Jun 16, 7:30 pm, TheCoz<cycled...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/post/Lance-Armstrong-rips-magazine-for-...
> >> What comes around, goes around. Maybe Outside Mag is jumping the gun.
> >> Landis/Lemond underground printing press release?
> >> Coz
>
> > Apparently the journalistic ethics of Outside Magazine are no higher
> > than those of Perez Hilton:
>
> >http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/showbiz/2010/06/16/behar.miley.photo...
>
> > Andy Coggan
>
> Outside Magazine has a pretty good reputation for hard-nosed reporting.
Dumbass -
The piece that Krakauer did for Outside on the 1996 Everest disaster
was one of the biggest pieces of shit I've ever read. Soooooo biased
and, IMO, wrong too. Krakauer blamed Fisher's company for everything,
singling out Anatoli Boukreev and neglecting to place any blame on Rob
Hall. Lame because Boukreev is the only one who saved anyone, Fisher's
company didn't lose and clients and Hall's company lost a number of
clients. From what I could tell, Krakauer pointed those fingers simply
because he didn't like Boukreev.
I read both Krakauer and Boukreev's books. Krakauer's account doesn't
add up when you look at who made it and who didn't.
thanks,
Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.
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TOPIC: Need source for presta valve extenders
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/4673c5e794f74fb1?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 17 2010 6:05 am
From: Joe Big
On Jun 16, 7:23 pm, "z, fred" <N...@not.ca> wrote:
> Looking for ones long enough for a 90 mm deep rim and where you take the
> valve core out of the tire valve and thread it into the exposed (after
> mounting on rim) end of the extender.
Try TOPEAK. They make a 78 mm presta valve extender.
http://www.topeak.com/products/Floor-Pumps/PrestaValveExtenderXL
http://www.topeak.com/products/Floor-Pumps/PrestaValveExtender
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TOPIC: Sweater Meat
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/107acd5389d77061?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 17 2010 6:37 am
From: Keith
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 23:21:39 -0700 (PDT), Joe Big
<carmellatheroachkiller@hotmail.com> wrote:
>http://tinyurl.com/24eux4u
Nice
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 17 2010 7:25 am
From: "Colonel John Matrix"
"Keith" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:u79k16lggotm7alaotvafe3ubph9bkhspd@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 23:21:39 -0700 (PDT), Joe Big
> <carmellatheroachkiller@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>http://tinyurl.com/24eux4u
>
> Nice
Face looks a bit haggard in that photo but you cannot argue with her
funbags.
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 17 2010 7:36 am
From: Anton Berlin
You douchebags, she looks like every other cheap whore I saw in
Bratislava shortly after the wall came down. Only guys that couldn't
score in Prague went searching for gash in Slovakia and the really
desperate ended up in Bulgaria where the women were easy but hard to
beat at arm wrestling.
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 17 2010 8:47 am
From: RicodJour
On Jun 17, 10:36 am, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> You douchebags, she looks like every other cheap whore I saw in
> Bratislava shortly after the wall came down. Only guys that couldn't
> score in Prague went searching for gash in Slovakia and the really
> desperate ended up in Bulgaria where the women were easy but hard to
> beat at arm wrestling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNVit7cesj8
R
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 17 2010 10:25 am
From: Anton Berlin
On Jun 17, 10:47 am, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 17, 10:36 am, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > You douchebags, she looks like every other cheap whore I saw in
> > Bratislava shortly after the wall came down. Only guys that couldn't
> > score in Prague went searching for gash in Slovakia and the really
> > desperate ended up in Bulgaria where the women were easy but hard to
> > beat at arm wrestling.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNVit7cesj8
>
> R
The RBR theme song !
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TOPIC: Road ID - Stupidiest idea ever ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/01935f5ba3d2fa3e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 17 2010 9:28 am
From: Ryan Cousineau
On Jun 15, 8:23 pm, "z, fred" <N...@not.ca> wrote:
> Dear Crabby wrote:
> > On 6/15/10 9:40 AM, in article
> > 842316d4-09d6-4adc-b0dd-ddad2601f...@11g2000prv.googlegroups.com, "Ryan
> > Cousineau" <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> On Jun 14, 12:37 pm, kirby <michael.ki...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Jun 13, 3:20 pm, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> I don't have a RoadID, but I usually ride with my wallet, or at least
> >> a phone with an ICE number in it. Not perfect, but I think carrying
> >> emergency contact info is prudent.
>
> > What does ICE have to do with this? Are you an illegal..
>
> Yeah! Go back to Canada!
Maybe I was a snowback, maybe I wasn't. But I couldn't abide your
ridiculous anti-monarchist attitudes, so I came home.
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TOPIC: TDF 2010 prospective winners - TdS on Thursay and Sunday...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/3b5893ae469217fd?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 17 2010 10:04 am
From: Brad Anders
On Jun 14, 4:33 pm, Keith <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >> > Sure it is. He wasn't the only one who took it easy. You don't think
> >> > he's trying to win TdS, do you?
>
> >> > I can't count how many times I've seen guys who were flying in
> >> > Criterium who were miles OTB in the TdF. I suspect Contador will be a
> >> > different guy next month.
>
> >> > Brad Anders
>
> >If it were a longer TT where the time gaps between 1st and 40th was
> >somewhere on the order of 4 or 5 minutes, I'd be inclined to accept
> >your point. For a short, prologue-ish TT of less than 8km, given that
> >he's only 29 seconds back in a race he's not specifically trying to
> >win, I'm not inclined to agree with your point at all. LA's results
> >in the 'stage 1' TT mean nothing.
>
> Correct, let's see what happens on Thursday
> (http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/tour-de-suisse-upt/stage-6) and
> Sunday (http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/tour-de-suisse-upt/stage-9) -
> assuming he hasn't fallen off his bike again or that his brake hasn't
> started rubbing...or whatever the next excuse happens to be...
Well, it's Thursday, and LA got 5th on the stage and dropped Andy
Schleck and Leipheimer on the climb. Looked pretty damn good, like
he's coming into stronger form.
You've complained about LA's excuses, what's your rationalization for
him doing better than you predicted this time?
Brad Anders
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 17 2010 10:19 am
From: RicodJour
On Jun 17, 1:04 pm, Brad Anders <pband...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 14, 4:33 pm, Keith <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> > >> > Sure it is. He wasn't the only one who took it easy. You don't think
> > >> > he's trying to win TdS, do you?
>
> > >> > I can't count how many times I've seen guys who were flying in
> > >> > Criterium who were miles OTB in the TdF. I suspect Contador will be a
> > >> > different guy next month.
>
>
> > >If it were a longer TT where the time gaps between 1st and 40th was
> > >somewhere on the order of 4 or 5 minutes, I'd be inclined to accept
> > >your point. For a short, prologue-ish TT of less than 8km, given that
> > >he's only 29 seconds back in a race he's not specifically trying to
> > >win, I'm not inclined to agree with your point at all. LA's results
> > >in the 'stage 1' TT mean nothing.
>
> > Correct, let's see what happens on Thursday
> > (http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/tour-de-suisse-upt/stage-6) and
> > Sunday (http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/tour-de-suisse-upt/stage-9) -
> > assuming he hasn't fallen off his bike again or that his brake hasn't
> > started rubbing...or whatever the next excuse happens to be...
>
> Well, it's Thursday, and LA got 5th on the stage and dropped Andy
> Schleck and Leipheimer on the climb. Looked pretty damn good, like
> he's coming into stronger form.
>
> You've complained about LA's excuses, what's your rationalization for
> him doing better than you predicted this time?
Oooh! Oooh! Me! I know - he's doping!
I'm referring to Keith.
R
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 17 2010 11:09 am
From: Brad Anders
On Jun 17, 10:19 am, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 17, 1:04 pm, Brad Anders <pband...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 14, 4:33 pm, Keith <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> > > >> > Sure it is. He wasn't the only one who took it easy. You don't think
> > > >> > he's trying to win TdS, do you?
>
> > > >> > I can't count how many times I've seen guys who were flying in
> > > >> > Criterium who were miles OTB in the TdF. I suspect Contador will be a
> > > >> > different guy next month.
>
> > > >If it were a longer TT where the time gaps between 1st and 40th was
> > > >somewhere on the order of 4 or 5 minutes, I'd be inclined to accept
> > > >your point. For a short, prologue-ish TT of less than 8km, given that
> > > >he's only 29 seconds back in a race he's not specifically trying to
> > > >win, I'm not inclined to agree with your point at all. LA's results
> > > >in the 'stage 1' TT mean nothing.
>
> > > Correct, let's see what happens on Thursday
> > > (http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/tour-de-suisse-upt/stage-6) and
> > > Sunday (http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/tour-de-suisse-upt/stage-9) -
> > > assuming he hasn't fallen off his bike again or that his brake hasn't
> > > started rubbing...or whatever the next excuse happens to be...
>
> > Well, it's Thursday, and LA got 5th on the stage and dropped Andy
> > Schleck and Leipheimer on the climb. Looked pretty damn good, like
> > he's coming into stronger form.
>
> > You've complained about LA's excuses, what's your rationalization for
> > him doing better than you predicted this time?
>
> Oooh! Oooh! Me! I know - he's doping!
>
> I'm referring to Keith.
>
> R
Thanks for the channeling!
I'm not a big fan of LA, I just don't think the piling-on is
justified. For a guy his age who burns the candle at both ends and in
the middle, I think he's doing surprisingly well on the bike. If
anyone wants to pick on someone, how about the guys who finished
behind him today?
Brad Anders
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