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By Alex Frazer-Harrison, For Neighbours June 24, 2010
From making our national anthem accessible to more people, to fighting
stigmas about sexuality, Calgary's seniors continue to impress with
the depth of their contributions.
Nowhere was this more apparent than during two recent award
ceremonies.
The 2010 Outstanding Calgary Seniors Awards recognized dozens of
nominees in six categories, with one from each category receiving full
honours.
All accomplishments had to take place after nominees turned 65.
Ella O'Donnell was honoured in the volunteerism category for her work
with the Royal Canadian Legion Auxiliary, Rosedale Hospice, Col.
Belcher Care Centre, Tom Baker Cancer Centre and other organizations.
She has also offered her services at H1N1 flu clinics.
"It's all part of giving back," she says.
"I'm a cancer survivor, so I figure I got a second chance at life. I
wouldn't trade the opportunity for all the money in the bank."
Shamsher Singh Sandhu says he didn't start learning to write poetry
until after he turned 65.
"I learned after 65 how to type on the computer -- how to publish
books, yourself -- and I did all the selling of my books, myself,"
says the recipient of the arts category honour.
He's self-published six collections of his works so far, with a
seventh in preparation. But he is most proud of his work in
translating Alberta's Song and O Canada into Punjabi, with his O
Canada translation now in Library and Archives Canada's collection.
"Just being in Canada is not enough," says Sandhu. "The most important
thing is to have a sense of belonging. I wanted to get a message to
people who came from Punjab and (elsewhere in) India that if you've
adopted this country and this country has adopted you, this is your
national anthem."
The awards honoured self-sacrifice and caring for others in the
Caregiving category.
Gerda Wlodarczak was recognized for her untiring devotion in taking
care of her adult son, Joachim.
"My son had a lack of oxygen at birth and was supposed to be in an
institution," says Wlodarczak, who came to Canada from Germany in
1955. "After my husband passed away, I relocated to Calgary and
started a completely new life, and I had my son with me."
Dalut Janmohamed won the general category for her work as a volunteer
case manager with the Quality of Life Improvement Program, which aids
families dealing with poverty and other life challenges.
She also has volunteered with the Taradale Co-op Food Bank Drive and
helps students at Chris Akkerman School.
"This is to be a role model -- spread the word and tell others: 'You
go for it'," she says of the importance of these awards.
Janmohamed, whose husband, Sadrudin, was a nominee in the leadership
category this year, says she enjoys being able to help others, such as
a refugee family from Afghanistan she assisted through the Quality of
Life program.
Marilyn Truscott was recognized in the active living category for work
that includes paddling with the Dragonhearts, hiking the Chilkoot
Trail, kayaking Pacific Rim National Park and cycling on behalf of the
B.C. Lung Association.
"I think as a senior you have more time to do these leisure
activities, which is a bonus," she says. "I've always been interested
in sports, and I like to sing -- there are always so many things to
do."
George Hopkins took home the leadership category award for his work
with projects such as Seniors A GOGO (Growing Older, Getting it On),
which partnered with the Foundation Lab and Calgary Sexual Health
Centre to promote open discussion of sexuality issues in seniors.
"It's a series of monologues that we do," says Hopkins, a founding
member of the Seniors Action Group.
"So many people think sexuality is just sex, but when you get to be a
senior, sex is a small part of sexuality. It's how you feel about
yourself and how you feel about other people."
Seniors have a tendency to not be acknowledged as much as they should
be, says Glenn Skimming, incoming president of the Calgary Chapter
Alberta Association on Gerontology, which has organized and co-
sponsored the awards since 2005.
"To be able to honour them really brings to attention the work seniors
do as they age. They may have been just as busy when they were
younger, but they're continuing to be involved in the community."
The awards' planning committee, as well as the program's judges, are
each seniors themselves.
This year, one member of the committee was herself honoured at the
Minister's Seniors Service Awards, which were presented at Government
House in Edmonton a few days before the Calgary celebration.
Mary Bereziuk was honoured for her work with the Ukrainian Assumption
Seniors Club, where she's been president for 21 years, and for
assisting seniors whose first language isn't English. Her work with
the Alberta Association on Gerontology was also recognized.
"Most of our members came to Canada after the war," she says.
"They had labourer jobs and their recreation was things like working
on their gardens. When we formed the club, we started weekly bingos,
trips, wine and cheese parties, and New Year's Eve parties."
Bereziuk, who received an Outstanding Calgary Seniors Award last year,
says her club also supports important causes, such as the food bank
and War Amps, and donated $500 for Haitian earthquake relief efforts.
Anne Hartley of Okotoks, a longtime Kerby Centre volunteer with more
than 20,000 hours of service, was honoured by the province for her
work with Kerby and for raising awareness of financial abuse of
seniors.
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24/06/2010
The FINANCIAL -- Over 125 Ministers and other high-level Government
officials attending a Ministerial Session in conjunction with the
third UN Global Compact Leaders Summit on June 23 made a strong call
for corporate responsibility.
"High-level representatives of more than 40 Governments issued a
Ministerial Statement recognizing the crucial role of Governments in
promoting corporate responsibility and engaging the private sector in
achieving the Millennium Development Goals - eight global objectives,
ranging from halving extreme poverty to halting the spread of HIV/AIDS
and providing universal primary education, all by the target date of
2015," Global Compact reported.
The Government representatives encouraged the private sector to
contribute to sustainability and development through market based
approaches that further economic, social and environmental progress.
Governments can support this by creating an enabling environment,
highlighting best practice, raising awareness, providing technical
assistance and supporting development of tools and capacity.
Importance of partnerships and multi-stakeholder initiatives
The Government representatives committed to partnering with business
and cooperating with multi-stakeholder initiatives to achieve
development, promote innovation, enable business environment and
advance scalable solutions in ways that have the potential to go
beyond what each stakeholder could deliver on their own.
Session participants also acknowledged voluntary initiatives, such as
the Global Compact, as powerful complements to regulation, while
recognizing that voluntary initiatives can never be a substitute for
effective regulation.
"The Ministerial Statement will break new ground," said Arun Maira,
Member of the Planning Commission of India. "Based on the experience
made and lessons learned, the Statement spells out how best
Governments can advance the role of business in support of sustainable
development. The Statement gives full recognition to the critical role
the private sector has in shaping the future."
"It is crucial that governments take action in this field, and I hope
that this Statement will inspire Governments all over the world," said
Mr. Brian Mikkelsen, Minister for Economic and Business Affairs of
Denmark, one of the lead initiators of the Statement. "Denmark is
actively supporting the UN Global Compact and the UN-supported
Principles for Responsible Investments - because they're globally
recognized and allow companies and investors to work with corporate
responsibility in a business driven way."
At the Ministerial Session, a background report was launched on the
role of Governments in promoting corporate responsibility and private
engagement in development. In this report Botswana, China, Denmark,
Germany and Mexico are mentioned as innovative examples of both public
policy for corporate responsibility and private engagement in
development.
The report, Role of Governments in Promoting Corporate Responsibility
and Private Sector Engagement in Development, was prepared by the UN
Global Compact in collaboration with the Bertelsmann Foundation.
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Today's topics:
* Coincidence ? - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/4c1b4958eb3b0adf?hl=en
* Lance Armstrong pulls out of the Tour de France !!! - 9 messages, 6 authors
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* Before you get into it with DA74... - 3 messages, 2 authors
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* The French Surrender Again - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* News Flash! - 6 messages, 5 authors
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* Giro De Feminin - 1 messages, 1 author
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* AFLD banned on TdF- Ricco back on big team... - 2 messages, 2 authors
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TOPIC: Coincidence ?
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 24 2010 7:10 am
From: Anton Berlin
On Jun 24, 8:55 am, Brad Anders <pband...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 24, 6:38 am, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Brad,
>
> > Kunich is missed but thankfully you raised your game to become the
> > reigning village idiot in his absense.
>
> BTW, after you call someone a village idiot, it's bad form to
> immediately misspell a common word...
>
> Brad Anders
Only fags look at typos.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 24 2010 7:27 am
From: Brad Anders
On Jun 24, 7:10 am, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 24, 8:55 am, Brad Anders <pband...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 24, 6:38 am, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Brad,
>
> > > Kunich is missed but thankfully you raised your game to become the
> > > reigning village idiot in his absense.
>
> > BTW, after you call someone a village idiot, it's bad form to
> > immediately misspell a common word...
>
> > Brad Anders
>
> Only fags look at typos.
Only true village idiots try to pass misspellings off as typos.
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TOPIC: Lance Armstrong pulls out of the Tour de France !!!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/5d66ff7f333de45a?hl=en
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== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 24 2010 7:10 am
From: "z, fred"
Anton Berlin wrote:
> On Jun 23, 5:15 pm, Fred Flintstein <bob.schwa...@sbcREMOVEglobal.net>
> wrote:
>> On 6/23/2010 5:08 PM, Brad Anders wrote:
>>
>>> On Jun 23, 2:36 pm, "B. Lafferty"<b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>> Festina was wake up call to teams wanting to win at any cost--except
>>>> getting caught.
>>> Festina was sloppy and they got caught. I think the "wake up call" was
>>> to tell teams and individuals that they needed to be more careful.
>>> Landis' assertions seem to support this view.
>>> The UCI has been trumpeting how that the peloton is getting "cleaner"
>>> because there are fewer positive tests. The alternate explanation is
>>> that teams and individuals have refined their methods to the point
>>> where the chance of being detected is quite low. Pick which ever
>>> viewpoint fits your fancy.
>> I wish cycling did things the way soccer does. They never have
>> these problems. All those sides in countries where anyone can
>> walk into the pharmacy and buy medicine for their horse, they're
>> all clean as can be. That's how cycling should do it.
>>
>> Fred Flintstein
>
> For fucks sake, soccer (because of the money and the supemodels) is
> probably worse than cycling.
>
> Tour de France winners jack off to photos of benched soccer player's
> girlfriends.
Nobody is jacking off to this:
http://i44.tinypic.com/ak8xaa.jpg
== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 24 2010 7:13 am
From: Anton Berlin
On Jun 24, 9:09 am, "z, fred" <N...@not.ca> wrote:
> Anton Berlin wrote:
> > On Jun 23, 5:15 pm, Fred Flintstein <bob.schwa...@sbcREMOVEglobal.net>
> > wrote:
> >> On 6/23/2010 5:08 PM, Brad Anders wrote:
>
> >>> On Jun 23, 2:36 pm, "B. Lafferty"<b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >>>> Festina was wake up call to teams wanting to win at any cost--except
> >>>> getting caught.
> >>> Festina was sloppy and they got caught. I think the "wake up call" was
> >>> to tell teams and individuals that they needed to be more careful.
> >>> Landis' assertions seem to support this view.
> >>> The UCI has been trumpeting how that the peloton is getting "cleaner"
> >>> because there are fewer positive tests. The alternate explanation is
> >>> that teams and individuals have refined their methods to the point
> >>> where the chance of being detected is quite low. Pick which ever
> >>> viewpoint fits your fancy.
> >> I wish cycling did things the way soccer does. They never have
> >> these problems. All those sides in countries where anyone can
> >> walk into the pharmacy and buy medicine for their horse, they're
> >> all clean as can be. That's how cycling should do it.
>
> >> Fred Flintstein
>
> > For fucks sake, soccer (because of the money and the supemodels) is
> > probably worse than cycling.
>
> > Tour de France winners jack off to photos of benched soccer player's
> > girlfriends.
>
> Hey village idiot: it's players, not player's.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
We have a new village idiot on standby....!
If you're going to correct someone at least be right about it.
Player's girlfriends - as in the girlfriends of the players.
== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 24 2010 7:15 am
From: "z, fred"
Anton Berlin wrote:
> On Jun 24, 9:09 am, "z, fred" <N...@not.ca> wrote:
>> Anton Berlin wrote:
>>> On Jun 23, 5:15 pm, Fred Flintstein <bob.schwa...@sbcREMOVEglobal.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 6/23/2010 5:08 PM, Brad Anders wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 23, 2:36 pm, "B. Lafferty"<b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Festina was wake up call to teams wanting to win at any cost--except
>>>>>> getting caught.
>>>>> Festina was sloppy and they got caught. I think the "wake up call" was
>>>>> to tell teams and individuals that they needed to be more careful.
>>>>> Landis' assertions seem to support this view.
>>>>> The UCI has been trumpeting how that the peloton is getting "cleaner"
>>>>> because there are fewer positive tests. The alternate explanation is
>>>>> that teams and individuals have refined their methods to the point
>>>>> where the chance of being detected is quite low. Pick which ever
>>>>> viewpoint fits your fancy.
>>>> I wish cycling did things the way soccer does. They never have
>>>> these problems. All those sides in countries where anyone can
>>>> walk into the pharmacy and buy medicine for their horse, they're
>>>> all clean as can be. That's how cycling should do it.
>>>> Fred Flintstein
>>> For fucks sake, soccer (because of the money and the supemodels) is
>>> probably worse than cycling.
>>> Tour de France winners jack off to photos of benched soccer player's
>>> girlfriends.
>> Hey village idiot: it's players, not player's.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> We have a new village idiot on standby....!
>
> If you're going to correct someone at least be right about it.
> Player's girlfriends - as in the girlfriends of the players.
Only fag's [sic] look at typos.
== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 24 2010 7:24 am
From: RicodJour
On Jun 24, 10:13 am, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 24, 9:09 am, "z, fred" <N...@not.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Anton Berlin wrote:
> > > On Jun 23, 5:15 pm, Fred Flintstein <bob.schwa...@sbcREMOVEglobal.net>
> > > wrote:
> > >> On 6/23/2010 5:08 PM, Brad Anders wrote:
>
> > >>> On Jun 23, 2:36 pm, "B. Lafferty"<b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> > >>>> Festina was wake up call to teams wanting to win at any cost--except
> > >>>> getting caught.
> > >>> Festina was sloppy and they got caught. I think the "wake up call" was
> > >>> to tell teams and individuals that they needed to be more careful.
> > >>> Landis' assertions seem to support this view.
> > >>> The UCI has been trumpeting how that the peloton is getting "cleaner"
> > >>> because there are fewer positive tests. The alternate explanation is
> > >>> that teams and individuals have refined their methods to the point
> > >>> where the chance of being detected is quite low. Pick which ever
> > >>> viewpoint fits your fancy.
> > >> I wish cycling did things the way soccer does. They never have
> > >> these problems. All those sides in countries where anyone can
> > >> walk into the pharmacy and buy medicine for their horse, they're
> > >> all clean as can be. That's how cycling should do it.
>
> > >> Fred Flintstein
>
> > > For fucks sake, soccer (because of the money and the supemodels) is
> > > probably worse than cycling.
>
> > > Tour de France winners jack off to photos of benched soccer player's
> > > girlfriends.
>
> > Hey village idiot: it's players, not player's.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> We have a new village idiot on standby....!
>
> If you're going to correct someone at least be right about it.
> Player's girlfriends - as in the girlfriends of the players.
Odd - I always thought it was players', you know, because it is.
Why don't you parse out the permutations as an exercise?
R
== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 24 2010 7:38 am
From: Zeno
On Jun 22, 3:42 pm, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Wouldn't he have to ?
>
> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/cycling/wires/06/22/2080.ap.cyc...
Anton --
Many thanks for taking time off from wanking to post this. OTH, I
guess it's not really time off.
Never mind
Zeno
== 6 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 24 2010 8:43 am
From: thirty-six
On 24 June, 06:01, DA74 <davidasto...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 23, 7:47 pm, "H. Fred Kveck" <YOURhow...@h-SHOESbomb.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > In article <9bfd1465-81ad-4250-81d5-b8e365b23...@g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > DA74 <davidasto...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Jun 23, 6:22 pm, thirty-six <thirty-...@live.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > Stimulants are not needed when "shit to enhance recovery" is used. If
> > > > you feel in need of stimulants when using "shit to enhance recovery"
> > > > then er, you havn't recovered and so need more rest or more "shit to
> > > > enhance recovery". You can take "shit to enhance recovery" on
> > > > alternate days, doubling up and this lessens the negative effect on
> > > > the immune response. BTW, there are better ways than using "shit to
> > > > enhance recovery" but requires tailoring to the individual which may
> > > > take some time.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Can you please tell this to Schwartz? He's telling people on the
> > > internets that pros pair stimulants with "shit to enhance recovery" so
> > > they can train harder. I keep asking him to inform the masses about
> > > this secret doping protocol that the pros are using but he won't
> > > oblige. It must be a remarkable doping protocol. A Belgian pro told
> > > him about it. Well, told a friend who told Bob, you know how it is...
>
> > If I saw that a position I was taking was agreed with by thirty-six, I'd be
> > rethinking my position. Just sayin'.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Whatchoo talkin' bout Willis? Trevor is a bro. Anyone who wants to
> scrub a new tyre and thinks of acetone, hypochlorite or petroleum
> product along with a powered scrubbing disc or using a scraper is A-OK
> in my book.
Those tyres still havn't seen any rain, or positions, so praying for
good weather would have been enough.
>
> And in case you're wondering, I know this because a Belgian Pro told
> my friend this is how the pros do it.
>
> Thanks,
> delta alpha 7^2 + 5^2
== 7 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 24 2010 10:38 am
From: Frederick the Great
In article <UvydneFnAf7IZr_RnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
"Mike Jacoubowsky" <MikeJ@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
> "AlphaAlpha8^2+3" <pennforyourthoughts@nowhere.calm> wrote in message
> news:4c22f65f$1@x-privat.org...
> >
> > "Mike Jacoubowsky" <MikeJ@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
> >>"DA74" <davidastor74@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:74629d7a-9d79-4435-bdad-846c62d5f8f8@j4g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> >>On Jun 23, 2:02 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com>
> >>wrote:
> >>> "DA74" <davidasto...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>
> >>> news:d0386b65-99ca-4722-8094-dc6c50014701@z10g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> >>> On Jun 23, 11:55 am, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > "DA74" <davidasto...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>
> >>> >news:b9c4f8cb-7c40-4c90-b7a2-b7a689a47d8e@t10g2000yqg.googlegroups.com...
> >>> > On Jun 23, 8:38 am, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com>
> >>> > wrote:> Lance has nothing to worry about. Others may; some young
> >>> > > idiot is going to see an opportunity to take advantage of a
> >>> > > possibly-clean
> >>> > > pointy end of the pack and do something stupid, thinking he
> >>might get
> >>> > > away
> >>> > > with it. But it won't be Lance, or any other of the "usual
> >>> > > suspects."
> >>>
> >>> > ============
> >>> > Listen up Big Jacobowski, you are fucking delusional to even
> >>> > mention
> >>> > the words "possibly-clean" at the pointy end of the peloton. You
> >>have
> >>> > no clue what goes on there. It's not your world even though you
> >>think
> >>> > it is. You're a fanboy and a low level industry retailer. You
> >>don't
> >>> > know jack.
> >>>
> >>> > And while we're at it let's get something else straight - Your
> >>Trek
> >>> > dealership has benefitted greatly from doping at the pointy end
> >>of the
> >>> > pack. Maybe you're trying to justify something to yourself here
> >>but
> >>> > the fact remains: you have blood money on your hands.
> >>>
> >>> > You're Welcome,
> >>> > DA74
> >>> > =============
> >>>
> >>> > I can't tell whether you woke up on the wrong side of the bed
> >>or forgot
> >>> > to
> >>> > feed & water your brain this week.
> >>>
> >>> > I said that some riders might want to take advantage of a
> >>> > "possibly"
> >>
> >>> > clean
> >>> > front of the pack. I didn't say it was clean. Get a clue, read
> >>before
> >>> > you
> >>> > leap. People look for competitive advantages, and if someone
> >>> > thinks
> >>that
> >>> > people are running "cleaner" then there's more advantage to doing
> >>> > something
> >>> > "big" and maybe getting away with it. The more WADA and UCI and
> >>whomever
> >>> > squeeze, and they ARE squeezing (although I'm sure you're going
> >>to claim
> >>> > you're privy to knowing that it's actually worse now than ever
> >>before,
> >>> > let's
> >>> > seem some evidence on the table), the greater the incentive for
> >>someone
> >>> > stupid to go overboard.
> >>>
> >>> > But you won't come back with an articulate response to that. Just
> >>sayin.
> >>>
> >>> > Regarding Trek and others deriving great benefit from doping,
> >>please
> >>> > explain
> >>> > exactly how this is so? People don't buy bikes because someone
> >>is 3 kph
> >>> > faster this year than 20 years ago. It's the spectacle, and other
> >>than
> >>> > cases
> >>> > like Simpson, how does doping enhance the spectacle?
> >>>
> >>> > Fanboy? Maybe, not sure. I love the spectacle of the 'Tour,
> >>> > everything
> >>> > about
> >>> > it, the people who come out of the villages to watch, the roads
> >>taken
> >>> > over
> >>> > by cyclists, watching the best riders in the world suffer on a
> >>climb I
> >>> > rode
> >>> > up a few hours prior. If I'm a real "fan" of any rider in
> >>> > particular
> >>
> >>> > it's
> >>> > Chris Horner. So now you're going to foam at the mouth about what
> >>it
> >>> > took
> >>> > for Chris to dominate the national scene here? I'd tell you to
> >>talk to
> >>> > the
> >>> > hand, but the hand doesn't care.
> >>>
> >>> > --Mike Jacoubowsky
> >>> > Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReaction.com
> >>> > Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
> >>>
> >>> ==========
> >>> Jacko,
> >>> Again, you are fucking delusional to mention the words "possibly
> >>> clean" and the pointy end of the peloton. Do you seriously think
> >>these
> >>> "young idiots" get on CyclingNews and read that WADA is serious
> >>and
> >>> that maybe the top stars are clean or cleaner so they figure that
> >>> maybe they can ride dirtier and win? You are so fucking off base
> >>it's
> >>> almost endearing.
> >>>
> >>> Trek and blood money? You seriously don't think you've benefitted
> >>from
> >>> doping? You're fucking delusional all over again. You've seen Treks
> >>> ads capitalizing on all the TdF wins all these years. They're still
> >>at
> >>> it:
> >>>
> >>> "Greatness Is Built Into Our DNA. The nine yellow jerseys in our
> >>> trophy case didn't come easily"
> >>>
> >>> You also know that around a half dozen former US Postal riders were
> >>> doping from either admissions or positives. And I'm not even
> >>> including
> >>> your sacred cow. Wake up bro. You're living off dirty blood money.
> >>> It's a fact.
> >>> -DA74
> >>> ==========
> >>>
> >>> So Lance and his team are dirty and nobody else? Some great change
> >>came to
> >>> cycling after Festina, such that lo and behold, all teams but the
> >>> soon-to-be-born US Postal got religion and rode clean, and decided
> >>to just
> >>> let Postal get away with it. What do you ascribe this to, Euro-guilt
> >>for
> >>> the
> >>> sins of WWII or something?
> >>>
> >>> Yep, that's it. Thanks for the helping me see the light.
> >>>
> >>> --Mike Jacoubowsky
> >>> Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReaction.com
> >>> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA- Hide quoted text -
> >>>
> >>> - Show quoted text -
> >>=============
> >>Jacotard,
> >>I'm not referring to any other teams here. I'm specifically talking
> >>about the Trek sponsored USPS team. Just off the top of my head we've
> >>got Heras, Hamilton, Landis, Andreu, Vaughters and Joachim. (And your
> >>sacred cow tested positive in retro tests dating to '99 samples but
> >>we
> >>won't include those yet.)
> >>
> >>The fact remains that you've made blood money. You have benefitted
> >>from doping. THAT'S A FACT JAC.
> >>
> >>You just need to come to terms with it. Like Chang correctly said,
> >>it's the way of the world. I'm just astounded that you haven't put
> >>this together yet...or maybe you have and you're playing coy to
> >>protect the innocents.
> >>
> >>(And by the way, the Festina affair simply reduced the openness of
> >>the
> >>culture - but that's another thread bro).
> >>DA74
> >>==============
> >>
> >>I don't argue that doping was, and maybe is, rampant (but I do argue
> >>that
> >>there's evidence it's on the decline). What I have said several times
> >>is
> >>that if it's as pervasive as you and many others say, then Lance
> >>didn't
> >>have
> >>an advantage over his peers. Some selection occurred, since few feel
> >>that
> >>*everybody* doped, but for the most part, you envision a fairly level
> >>
> >>playing field. With me so far?
> >>
> >>So my association with anything to do with competitive cycling, and
> >>anyone
> >>else's as well, is thus tainted?
> >>
> >>I don't get that. As I said before, a 3 kph difference in speed
> >>between
> >>
> >>racing clean vs dirty (and it will actually be less than that) isn't
> >>going
> >>to make the race any less exciting to watch.
> >>
> >>So what is it about this blood money stuff you think I'm associated
> >>with? Do
> >>you think I have some secret knowledge of what goes on, and that I
> >>hide it
> >>because it would be bad for sales? Let me tell you something you
> >>aren't
> >>
> >>going to believe. If it came out that Lance clearly doped, even if
> >>he
> >>confessed to it, it would have little if any impact on my bicycle
> >>sales.
> >>People would say yeah, sports, they all do it. Everybody cheats. The
> >>biggest
> >>loser if that were to happen would be to his Livestrong followers,
> >>the
> >>hundreds of thousands with cancer who have looked up to him and have
> >>
> >>benefitted from his organization. That would be sad. But that's not
> >>my
> >>business.
> >>
> >>And you know what? I've got a 17 year old son who rides, and I talk
> >>to him
> >>about this stuff. What would it mean if it turned out that Lance was
> >>
> >>cheating. How would that make him feel about what he does himself.
> >>Because
> >>as a parent, sure, you worry about the influences popular figures
> >>have. But
> >>he's his own person and that would really have no effect on him, other
> >>than
> >>a bit of resignation.
> >>
> >>Going after Lance & Trek and even me over this may be populist but
> >>
> >>deceptive. It's the entire cycling industry that's gotten wrapped
> >>up in
> >>sponsorship of your tainted peloton. Everybody's guilty. Or nobody.
> >>I'm
> >>leaning toward it being one of those things about a society in which
> >>
> >>cheating to get ahead isn't seen as being the evil thing it once was,
> >>using
> >>corporate greed (Enron) as an example of its acceptance. That's really
> >>sad.
> >>It's a powerful force to try and stop, and I think we sometimes expect
> >>too
> >>much from WADA and UCI. You can legislate actions, but not thoughts.
> >>
> >>--Mike Jacoubowsky
> >>Chain Reaction Bicycles
> >>www.ChainReaction.com
> >>Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
> >>
> >
> > That is quite a bit of protestation my friend. Did he hurt you bro?
> > Alpha^2
>
> DA74 helped me work through a few things. I'm still not sure where
> DA74's coming from though. He's either an extraordinarily-repentent
> sinner (not likely), is attempting to suppress a high level of guilt
> over the fact that he's a continuing doper, or just another rbr guy
> making it all up as he goes along.
>
> It's funny that doping didn't bother me at all when I was racing, and it
> was going on all around me at the time. I never considered it anything
> more than an extension of their recreational drug use (typically
> uppers/amphetamines, nothing terribly sophisticated). And the ultimate
> irony that, even back then (mid-70s) guys were using inhalers that
> didn't need them, and there I was, terminal allergies, couldn't breathe
> worth a darn (worse now on a cool day) and never considered it. Did I
> lose races to some of those guys? Yeah, sometimes, but I never once
> thought it was because they were doping, and I still don't. But that was
> then, this is now. Doping of that era carried both up & down sides
> (uppers caused problems on hot days, for example). Current doping
> appears to be highly tuned to the individual and, done "properly"
> doesn't appear to have an obvious downside during the event.
So people are getting better medical advice,
and you treat it as if it is _bad_ thing.
--
Old Fritz
== 8 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 24 2010 10:43 am
From: Frederick the Great
In article <3oqbf7-k24.ln1@donald.homeip.net>,
Betty <none@mailinator.com> wrote:
> AlphaAlpha8^2+3 wrote:
>
> I think I prefer h^^2.
= h^h
--
Old Fritz
== 9 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 24 2010 10:49 am
From: Frederick the Great
In article
<034a1472-da1e-4295-9067-68916e00f6c1@z8g2000yqz.googlegroups.com>,
Anton Berlin <truth_88888@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 23, 5:15 pm, Fred Flintstein <bob.schwa...@sbcREMOVEglobal.net>
> wrote:
> > On 6/23/2010 5:08 PM, Brad Anders wrote:
> >
> > > On Jun 23, 2:36 pm, "B. Lafferty"<b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> Festina was wake up call to teams wanting to win at any cost--except
> > >> getting caught.
> >
> > > Festina was sloppy and they got caught. I think the "wake up call" was
> > > to tell teams and individuals that they needed to be more careful.
> > > Landis' assertions seem to support this view.
> >
> > > The UCI has been trumpeting how that the peloton is getting "cleaner"
> > > because there are fewer positive tests. The alternate explanation is
> > > that teams and individuals have refined their methods to the point
> > > where the chance of being detected is quite low. Pick which ever
> > > viewpoint fits your fancy.
> >
> > I wish cycling did things the way soccer does. They never have
> > these problems. All those sides in countries where anyone can
> > walk into the pharmacy and buy medicine for their horse, they're
> > all clean as can be. That's how cycling should do it.
>
> For fucks sake, soccer (because of the money and the supemodels) is
> probably worse than cycling.
Yes, we know this.
> Tour de France winners jack off to photos of benched soccer player's
> girlfriends.
We do not want to know this.
--
Old Fritz
==============================================================================
TOPIC: Before you get into it with DA74...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/15ae3f4549698d31?hl=en
==============================================================================
== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 24 2010 7:19 am
From: Fred Flintstein
Dumbasses,
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/af6094280d726db0
"If someone posted a billion times, Tom was
programmed to post a billion + 1 followups. When
presented with a conclusive counter argument, it was
easier to just code him to ignore it."
You can download the code for his core functionality from
SourceForge. Just keep that in mind before you dump a lot
of time into a response to something from him.
Fred Flintstein
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 24 2010 8:24 am
From: DA74
On Jun 24, 7:19 am, Fred Flintstein <bob.schwa...@sbcREMOVEglobal.net>
wrote:
> Dumbasses,
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/af6094280d726db0
>
> "If someone posted a billion times, Tom was
> programmed to post a billion + 1 followups. When
> presented with a conclusive counter argument, it was
> easier to just code him to ignore it."
>
> You can download the code for his core functionality from
> SourceForge. Just keep that in mind before you dump a lot
> of time into a response to something from him.
>
> Fred Flintstein
That is rich. You are proudly quoting yourself from big shining rbr
moment. Congrats again on that post bro.
Anyway, I am waiting not just for a conclusive counter argument from
you, but merely a simple answer to a question I had about a post of
yours. And I'm going to proudly quote you here: Please do tell, what
"shit to enhance recovery" does one pair with stimulants to "ramp up
their training volume"?
If you forgot the post here it is to refresh your memory (feel free to
quote yourself):
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/4ac1f2906c3c242b?hl=en
Thanks again,
DeltaAlpha7^2+5^2
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 24 2010 11:14 am
From: Fred Flintstein
On 6/24/2010 10:24 AM, DA74 wrote:
> ...You ... yourself ...
> you, ...
> yours. ...proudly quote you here...
> you ... your ... yourself
Just to be clear, I am not responsible for the man-crush
subsystem. I have my suspicions about who wrote that, but
it wasn't me.
Fred Flintstein
==============================================================================
TOPIC: The French Surrender Again
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/4b837ae7abe0cd17?hl=en
==============================================================================
== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 24 2010 7:25 am
From: RicodJour
On Jun 23, 5:09 pm, Fred Flintstein <bob.schwa...@sbcREMOVEglobal.net>
wrote:
>
> OK, first the US side lands in one of the weakest groups.
> Then to advance they have to beat one of the lowest ranked
> sides (Algeria=FIFA #30).
>
> Thanks to the Aussies they face Ghana (FIFA #32) rather
> than the much stronger Serbian (FIFA #15) squad. It looks
> highly likely that the Ghanaians will be the lowest ranked
> side in the Knockout round except for South Korea.
>
> If the US survives that they will face either Uruguay (FIFA
> #16) or the Koreans (FIFA #47!!). So it is possible that they
> could advance to the 4 finalists facing only one more highly
> ranked side, 8th ranked England whom they defeated 1-1.
>
> No one has an easier path to the finals, that's for sure.
Having referees disallow valid goals in close games is an easy path?
R
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 24 2010 7:31 am
From: Fred Flintstein
On 6/24/2010 9:25 AM, RicodJour wrote:
> On Jun 23, 5:09 pm, Fred Flintstein<bob.schwa...@sbcREMOVEglobal.net>
> wrote:
>>
>> OK, first the US side lands in one of the weakest groups.
>> Then to advance they have to beat one of the lowest ranked
>> sides (Algeria=FIFA #30).
>>
>> Thanks to the Aussies they face Ghana (FIFA #32) rather
>> than the much stronger Serbian (FIFA #15) squad. It looks
>> highly likely that the Ghanaians will be the lowest ranked
>> side in the Knockout round except for South Korea.
>>
>> If the US survives that they will face either Uruguay (FIFA
>> #16) or the Koreans (FIFA #47!!). So it is possible that they
>> could advance to the 4 finalists facing only one more highly
>> ranked side, 8th ranked England whom they defeated 1-1.
>>
>> No one has an easier path to the finals, that's for sure.
>
> Having referees disallow valid goals in close games is an easy path?
>
> R
Easier than playing Brazil or Argentina straight up.
Fred Flintstein
==============================================================================
TOPIC: News Flash!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/8c86d929f2fee18e?hl=en
==============================================================================
== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 24 2010 7:38 am
From: Tom_A
On Jun 24, 6:35 am, Keith <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 06:00:07 -0700 (PDT), Scott
>
> <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Longo wins French National TT championship.
>
> Aged 51, her 57th title and 3rd ITT in a row...
And second place is 40 yrs old...are you sure this wasn't the French
Women's Masters ITT? If not, what's up with the younger French women?
== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 24 2010 8:17 am
From: Betty
Tom_A wrote:
> And second place is 40 yrs old...are you sure this wasn't the French
> Women's Masters ITT? If not, what's up with the younger French women?
They've got big breasts ?
== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 24 2010 9:30 am
From: Brad Anders
On Jun 24, 6:35 am, Keith <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 06:00:07 -0700 (PDT), Scott
>
> <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Longo wins French National TT championship.
>
> Aged 51, her 57th title and 3rd ITT in a row...
24.7 km in 34:51, 42.52 km/hr (26.4 mph). Pretty goddamn fast,
regardless of age. Impressive.
Brad Anders
== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 24 2010 9:51 am
From: "GoneBeforeMyTime"
Tom_A wrote:
> If not, what's up with the younger French women?
Nothing, Longo is still as good at 51 as she was 25 years ago. Unlike
others, her body has lasted, as well as her spirit to race and win. Longo
always goes to win, nothing else matters to her.
== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 24 2010 10:24 am
From: "GoneBeforeMyTime"
GoneBeforeMyTime wrote:
> Tom_A wrote:
>
>> If not, what's up with the younger French women?
>
> Nothing, Longo is still as good at 51 as she was 25 years ago. Unlike
> others, her body has lasted, as well as her spirit to race and win.
> Longo always goes to win, nothing else matters to her.
First thing that came to my mind without checking was if Pitel and Bruneau
would be on the podium or close on the results. Sure enough, 2nd and 3rd. So
the French girls are good, those are two solid riders, it's just Longo is
better. The ridculous stigma that somehow the French women suck because
Longo beat them has been beaten to death for years. The fact is, Longo is
still the best, period.
http://courses.femininesassociees.over-blog.com/
== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 24 2010 11:17 am
From: thirty-six
On 24 June, 17:51, "GoneBeforeMyTime" <F...@EuroForums.com> wrote:
> Tom_A wrote:
> > If not, what's up with the younger French women?
>
> Nothing, Longo is still as good at 51 as she was 25 years ago. Unlike
> others, her body has lasted,
Some one who didn't take "shit to enhance recovery". You see in
reality "shit to enhance recovery", doesn't, it just prevents the
damage from interfering with continued training. The only real ways
to enhance recovery involve attention to diet, rest and activity.
It's a 24 hour job being a world class athlete. Short cuts do not pay
dividends in the long term. Now how are those BP shares doing?
> as well as her spirit to race and win. Longo
> always goes to win, nothing else matters to her.
==============================================================================
TOPIC: Giro De Feminin
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/5fa45ee37e29e4db?hl=en
==============================================================================
== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 24 2010 9:53 am
From: "GoneBeforeMyTime"
http://www.procyclingwomen.com/Giro-Donne-2010/Giro-Donne.html
The Giro Donne offical site workup on the race has maps and profiles that
are largely unreadable and in Italian. I bascially redid it in English so
it's also readable with better details.
List of teams and riders might pop up on Cicloweb soon, I would keep an eye
on them. On the race, they stacked the three mountain stages at the end,
with the last stage being a clone like TDF party stage I guess, but if it's
close, anything can happen on the last day. It's pretty flat all the way
until they hit stage 7, and then it hurts, and it really hurts for stages 8
and 9 as well. I see this as a climbers tour, and that's not so bad cause I
had hoped the Giro Donne might one day do a selective tour for the climbers.
It's been many years since the women's tours were selective, noting even
here in America like HP Challenge and Redlands Oak Glen, although Gila has
the Monster and Toona has Blue Knob this year. In Europe the Grande Boucle
died and you have to go back to 2003 to find a selective tour for the
climbers.
Flavia O. is out with a testing violation, so she won't be there. She is
good climber, but probably Tiffany Cromwell will be there and she is good in
the mountains. However I see them as the B climbers. The A climbers are Emma
and Mara, possible Edita Pucinskaite, but Brandli and Luperini retired, so
two great climbers are gone. If HTC and Celvelo doesn't wear Mara out with
her National Team and both riders appear healthy and haven't crashed out by
the stage 7, then I expect this to be the Emma and Mara show, clearly, all
the way. No one else has the pedigree to hang with them in the mountains. I
don't believe Stevens can hang with those two girls. Mara would of won last
year if she hadn't of held back for Arndt on Monte Serra, so she could of
won if she wasn't actually pulling and holding back for Arndt. It depends on
how strong the national team is, Mara can't really do it all alone, but
Pooley has said the same thing. Team work is going to be important.
That bothers me a little, since it would be a good spectacle if it was a
fair fight. Celvelo got better cards to play, but even if Emma gets ahead on
the GC, I am still looking forward to who the best climber is on the
Stelvio. I don't see Vos, Cooke or Pucinskaite winning this tour, although
anything is possible. This is the longest and hardest tour of the year for
pro women, and all it really needs to please is solid TV coverage. Amber
Neben might figure into the tour if she's riding well, wait and see. Also
riders to watch are Arndt, Cantele and Guderzo. Hausler will be in the
fight, and since she won last year, it will interesting to see how things
get sorted out between her and Pooley. Worrack and Bronzini will be looking
for stage wins as will Teutenberg. Kind of reminds me of when the first part
of the TDF is over for the sprinters, and then the mountains take center
stage. I am not even sure if all these riders will even be in this tour, but
it's a good guess that they would be. I'm hearing that Cooke probably will
not ride, but wait and see.
On the Giro for women, still the dark ages like most women's races. The
World Championships and the Olympics are televised worldwide, but not most
pro women's road classics. However, I am pretty sure RAI-3 will do at least
10 to 30 minutes daily coverage with hour or more wrap-ups on weekends.
Otherwise it won't be on Versus, Universal Sports or Eurosport. At least I
am pretty sure it won't be on anywhere except RAI-3. On the Internet, it
probably won't even be on any sort of Internet TV. The Giro De Feminin is
difficult to follow by the press because of the transfers. That's why most
of the guys I know who work the races over them avoid the women's Giro.
However CJ will probably cover it cause that's what she does. She is paid to
cover world cup and UCI races, that's what she does. However she will only
have photos and race reports, and the photos are not too hot in my opinion.
Mostly became they are so small and laced with copyright and watermarks.
If Ronconi goes, he will get some great photos and post them on Piscasso.
Other then that, Cicloweb will also go to some stages and post photos on
Piscasso. The official site will also post photos plus videos on Youtube.
Those are usually fun to watch, although fairly short. Aside from that there
are a few freelance guys who also post photos and homemade videos. I expect
Ciclismoinrosa to take photos and post a few videos. Bart Hazen covers a lot
of races but I am betting he won't be there because of the amount of trouble
involved to cover that race. I think William Meertans sort of retired or got
married. It seems both of those women's cycling magazines have gone belly up
in less then a year. One from America, one from Europe, so I can't say the
sport on the women's side has really improved that much. However, this
year's edition of the Giro De Feminin is a good one, and there is a fair
amount of interest to see it play out between Pooley and Abbott.
==============================================================================
TOPIC: AFLD banned on TdF- Ricco back on big team...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/676e6f1f793a2a1d?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 24 2010 12:00 pm
From: "Fred Gringioni"
"B. Lafferty" <bl@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:WcSdnTEc07nNwb7RnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@giganews.com...
: On 6/24/2010 9:02 AM, Cicero Venatio wrote:
: >
: >> cycling business as usual !
: >>
: > ----------
: > you're right and Lance also just got the green light.
:
: It's difficult to race while you're in the little room being interrogated.
Dumbass -
Your wet dream ain't gonna happen.
Ever tried getting a hard-on for something else?
thanks,
Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 24 2010 11:14 am
From: "B. Lafferty"
On 6/24/2010 3:00 PM, Fred Gringioni wrote:
>
> "B. Lafferty"<bl@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:WcSdnTEc07nNwb7RnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> : On 6/24/2010 9:02 AM, Cicero Venatio wrote:
> :>
> :>> cycling business as usual !
> :>>
> :> ----------
> :> you're right and Lance also just got the green light.
> :
> : It's difficult to race while you're in the little room being interrogated.
>
>
>
>
> Dumbass -
>
> Your wet dream ain't gonna happen.
>
> Ever tried getting a hard-on for something else?
>
> thanks,
>
> Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.
>
Maybe not. Time will tell.
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