Monday, July 19, 2010

[socialactionfoundationforequity:3663 A reported news item: 108 FASTER THAN 911

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"This same 108 service, the way it has developed in Gujarat, if it had happened in some other country, our people would have written books about it."

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The Times of India
Fri, Jul 16, 2010
108 FASTER THAN 911

Study Says India's Emergency Service Has Outpaced The US Version With Its Expansion Model And Innovation
Parth Shastri &
Kumar Manish |
TNN

Ahmedabad: Ten years ago, when it came to emergency  healthcare services, India was nowhere on the world map. However, the scenario changed rapidly once three magic figures 108 entered the scene. It soon became a household name in several states of India, including Gujarat.

A research published under the title 'Innovation's Holy Grail' in a recent issue of Harvard Business Review delineates how 108 is an exemplary effort. Carried out by  management gurus CK Prahalad and RA Mashelkar, the study shows how 108 emergency service is an innovation that synthesizes research and te chnology.

According to the study, GVK Emergency Medical Research Institute (EMRI)-led 108 emergency service is fast emerging as a leading organization in emergency health sector worldwide owing to its cost-effective method and public- private partnership model. This has lent it an impeccable base where it is reaching out to 366 million persons in Gujarat, Uttarakhand, Goa, Chennai, Rajasthan, Karnataka and Assam, making it the world's largest emergency management entity in just few years. The paper states that 108 services has outpaced the US' 911 service with  its huge expansion model and innovation. 'EMRI spent only 50 cents per person treated to build the infrastructure in India, compared to $100 in the US. The expense per ambulance visit is less than $15, visa- vis $600 to $800 in the US,' states the paper.

'As the only emergency responder in the world with a research institute, EMRI is at the forefront of identifying ways to improve knowledge and practices. It archives all calls and analyses data to compile regional public health profiles. For the first time in India, data on the timing and nature of medical emergencies is available,' states the study.

Babu Thomas, head of HRD of Gujarat GVK EMRI, told TOI that Gujarat has a share in the success story. "With an emergency management centre opening in Kathwada this month, Gujarat has become one of the states with exemplary speed, scale and cost-effective measures. The state also contributes to continuous research that we undertake to study the patterns of emergency and most vulnerable groups," he said.

The Gujarat model was also presented by Subodh Satyawadi, COO of Gujarat chapter in US last month in front of representatives of World Bank, United Nations Population Fund, United States Agency for International Development.



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rec.bicycles.racing - 25 new messages in 13 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* Put this into your German translater bitches! - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/9d20460197121a9c?hl=en
* Whatever - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/8be48d47a9b8ed23?hl=en
* What's the ruckus? - 4 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/7e07a0e3d28fd96c?hl=en
* Pretty bad when your ethics pale to Vino's. Hey AC ? - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/f173d92d8b163526?hl=en
* Two observations - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/d9c3e765d998886a?hl=en
* The RBR Survey - some funny data in there now that Landis has confessed. - 2
messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/5b5d9cd9cc6ed281?hl=en
* backstage at the tour - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/511f73d8934e4de0?hl=en
* Paging Dr Coggan... Paging Dr. Coggan - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/32f68d9d51a2e492?hl=en
* Lance and Greg - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/6bc23606505927cf?hl=en
* Lance Armstrong is am inspiration to all those suffering from cancer ! How
dare you smite him?!!! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/4ac505e4fc01aa93?hl=en
* Is this dude crazy? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/399982bce7c774ec?hl=en
* Greg LeMond interviewed by Jeff Novitzky - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/99e7e8ea191e620b?hl=en
* Andy Schmuck's Strategy ??? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/83b6c5b72bf22b4b?hl=en

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TOPIC: Put this into your German translater bitches!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/9d20460197121a9c?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 6:43 pm
From: "B. Lafferty"


On 7/19/2010 8:53 PM, Superfly TNT wrote:
> http://sueddeutsche.de/sport/radsport-schweigen-zahlen-es-ist-fast-wie-bei-der-mafia-1.976244
>
>
Thanks for the link.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 7:09 pm
From: Davey Crockett


Superfly TNT a écrit profondement:

| http://sueddeutsche.de/sport/radsport-schweigen-zahlen-es-ist-fast-wie-bei-der-mafia-1.976244
>
>
Very Interesting

Thanks

--
The European Union has announced its intention to encourage even more
Third World immigrants to enter Europe as the news emerged that at
least 51,000 Romanians have sought work in Britain in the last six
months alone.


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 7:47 pm
From: Anton Berlin


On Jul 19, 7:53 pm, Superfly TNT <superfly-...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> http://sueddeutsche.de/sport/radsport-schweigen-zahlen-es-ist-fast-wi...

Something about a limit of five schnitzle gruben and the rest was all
jibberish to me

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=ke5Mr5eCF2U&feature=related


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TOPIC: Whatever
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/8be48d47a9b8ed23?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 6:47 pm
From: "B. Lafferty"


On 7/19/2010 8:50 PM, Superfly TNT wrote:
> http://cozybeehive.blogspot.com/2010/07/cycling-shorts-18-july-2010.html
>
The Lance Armstrong Foundation (LAF), founded by the champion bicyclist
and cancer survivor of the same name, is celebrating its 10-year
anniversary this year. Wouldn't you think a charity that receives
massive publicity for having one of the most popular causes and most
admired celebrities as the face of the organization would be able to
easily raise lots of money? Unfortunately this is not the case. LAF
spent as much as $45 to raise each $100, exceeding AIP's 35% recommended
fundraising ceiling by a significant margin. While LAF had difficulty
raising contributions efficiently, it did prove to be a savvy
merchandise marketer. LAF sold over $24 million in merchandise,
including the ubiquitous yellow "LIVESTRONG" wristband, as well as
clothing, sports gear and even dog leashes. Yet after spending $10
million in solicitation costs, the group brought in only $22 million in
contributions, according to AIP's analysis of LAF's 2005 financial
statements.


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 7:21 pm
From: RicodJour


On Jul 19, 9:47 pm, "B. Lafferty" <b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On 7/19/2010 8:50 PM, Superfly TNT wrote:>http://cozybeehive.blogspot.com/2010/07/cycling-shorts-18-july-2010.html
>
> The Lance Armstrong Foundation (LAF), founded by the champion bicyclist
> and cancer survivor of the same name, is celebrating its 10-year
> anniversary this year. Wouldn't you think a charity that receives
> massive publicity for having one of the most popular causes and most
> admired celebrities as the face of the organization would be able to
> easily raise lots of money? Unfortunately this is not the case. LAF
> spent as much as $45 to raise each $100, exceeding AIP's 35% recommended
> fundraising ceiling by a significant margin. While LAF had difficulty
> raising contributions efficiently, it did prove to be a savvy
> merchandise marketer. LAF sold over $24 million in merchandise,
> including the ubiquitous yellow "LIVESTRONG" wristband, as well as
> clothing, sports gear and even dog leashes. Yet after spending $10
> million in solicitation costs, the group brought in only $22 million in
> contributions, according to AIP's analysis of LAF's 2005 financial
> statements.

Man, the hard-on you've got for LANCE is draining your brain. You
only post the part about LANCE's charity, and conveniently neglect to
post the stuff about the other cancer charities which are in similar
efficiency situations. LAF actually is marginally better than some
other biggies. What could that mean? Right - of course! LANCE doped
and bribed the other charities.

http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=6570#rated
They give LAF three stars, which means, "Good Exceeds or meets
industry standards and performs as well as or better than most
charities in its Cause." Man, that's fooking horribl...oh, wait.
That's not bad, is it? Good isn't bad, right?

Look at the Revenue/Expenses graph on the right. Hmmm. That's odd,
too. Their revenue is going up, and their bringing their expenses
down in a fairly straight line over the last few reported years. How
could they fooking do that?! Oh, wait. That's good, isn't it?

This is you "helping" the world. Pissing on something that does
thousands of people good because you don't like someone because of
something totally unrelated to the charity. Yep, keep tossing out
that bath water - there are too many babies anyway. Wot a maroon.

Just accept it, Brian, you're a twit and you get wood whenever LANCE
is mentioned. I'll help you out here. Go get some hand lotion and
some Kleenex and I'll meet you back here after the break.

{ahem, la de dah, la de dah, sigh, burp)

You're back? Good. Okay stroke on!

LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE
LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE
LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE
LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE
LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE
LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE
LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE
LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE
LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE
LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE
LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE
LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE
LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE LANCE
LANCE

What? You're not done yet? Man it must suck to get old, be an old
closeted homo AND have ED.

R


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 7:52 pm
From: Anton Berlin


Livestrongs top exec makes about 12x percentage wise of the American
Cancer Society's head exec. Livestrong is a grift and those made in
china bracelets have cadnium in them and cause cancer.

Suck it ballgarglers.

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TOPIC: What's the ruckus?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/7e07a0e3d28fd96c?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 7:42 pm
From: Frederick the Great


In article
<48d28d5f-32c9-433c-8a43-2e3b7c538b66@f6g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
Anton Berlin <truth_88888@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Jul 19, 5:20 pm, Frederick the Great <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > Schleck attacked.
> > Contador counter-attacked.
> > Schleck came unhooked.
> >
> > Somebody punches you in the mouth,
> > then says, "Stop. Neutralize this.
> > I cut my knuckle on your broken tooth."
> >
> > I never heard such a load of feel-good
> > codswallop since I quit the folk-singing business.
>
> That's not what happened and everyone knows it.

Except I who saw Schleck four bike lengths
in front of Contador working full out.
That is an attack. At the moment the announcers
said Schleck attacked. Later they abandoned that.

> AS had a mechanical
> then AC attacked.

Wrong. Contador was counter-attacking
before Schleck threw a chain.

Schleck attacked.
Contador counter-attacked.

> Then AC 2nd thought it and let Sanchez and Menchov
> do his dirty work.

You have the cleanest mind in Christendom.

--
Old Fritz


== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 7:53 pm
From: raamman


On Jul 19, 6:20 pm, Frederick the Great <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Schleck attacked.
> Contador counter-attacked.
> Schleck came unhooked.
>
> Somebody punches you in the mouth,
> then says, "Stop. Neutralize this.
> I cut my knuckle on your broken tooth."
>
> I never heard such a load of feel-good
> codswallop since I quit the folk-singing business.
>
> --
> Old Fritz

it's about sportsmanship; shouldn't have to explain it - but I guess
you're the type to sucker-punch your opponent after the bell. although
in yellow, AC could have proved he is a worthy champion by not taking
advantage of a temporary mechanical mishap, but instead choose to
demonstrate he has no class- I read that he was booed by the crowd
during the ceremony- they got it, I'm sure he got it too.


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 8:04 pm
From: raamman


On Jul 19, 9:19 pm, TheCoz <cycled...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 19, 6:34 pm, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 19, 5:20 pm, Frederick the Great <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > > Schleck attacked.
> > > Contador counter-attacked.
> > > Schleck came unhooked.
>
> > > Somebody punches you in the mouth,
> > > then says, "Stop. Neutralize this.
> > > I cut my knuckle on your broken tooth."
>
> > > I never heard such a load of feel-good
> > > codswallop since I quit the folk-singing business.
>
> > > --
> > > Old Fritz
>
> > That's not what happened and everyone knows it.  AS had a mechanical
> > then AC attacked.  Then AC 2nd thought it and let Sanchez and Menchov
> > do his dirty work.
>
> > Even doping scum Armstrong didn't pull this kind of shit.
>
> LA also admits AC did the right thing. I truly believe AC saw what was
> going on, his bike has brakes just like all the others. He could have
> pulled up, and Sanchez and Manchov surly would have took respect and
> done the same.
> Coz- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

LA is wrong, he is forgetting that Jan & co waited for him when he was
taken down by a spectator and then had problems clipping back in; AC
could've soft peddaled until Andy caught back on; with Menchov and
Sanchez 2:30 down AC had no reason to fear losing such time to them by
giving Andy a fair shake.


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 8:16 pm
From: Anton Berlin


On Jul 19, 9:42 pm, Frederick the Great <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> In article
> <48d28d5f-32c9-433c-8a43-2e3b7c538...@f6g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
>  Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 19, 5:20 pm, Frederick the Great <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > > Schleck attacked.
> > > Contador counter-attacked.
> > > Schleck came unhooked.
>
> > > Somebody punches you in the mouth,
> > > then says, "Stop. Neutralize this.
> > > I cut my knuckle on your broken tooth."
>
> > > I never heard such a load of feel-good
> > > codswallop since I quit the folk-singing business.
>
> > That's not what happened and everyone knows it.  
>
> Except I who saw Schleck four bike lengths
> in front of Contador working full out.
> That is an attack. At the moment the announcers
> said Schleck attacked. Later they abandoned that.
>
> > AS had a mechanical
> > then AC attacked.  
>
> Wrong. Contador was counter-attacking
> before Schleck threw a chain.
>
> Schleck attacked.
> Contador counter-attacked.
>
> > Then AC 2nd thought it and let Sanchez and Menchov
> > do his dirty work.
>
> You have the cleanest mind in Christendom.
>
> --
> Old Fritz

Your mind is on the Fritz - first you said the Coen brothers are from
Texas and now you're saying that Contrador was countering? Bullshit.

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TOPIC: Pretty bad when your ethics pale to Vino's. Hey AC ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/f173d92d8b163526?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 7:46 pm
From: Frederick the Great


In article
<3d80a94d-0d33-43b2-b428-7c7b8766384c@w12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
Anton Berlin <truth_88888@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Jul 19, 5:22 pm, Frederick the Great <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <c5eea7c1-c543-4d63-8eb6-0c6aef715...@i31g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> >  Choppy Warburton <choppywarbur...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm talking about, hell Leo, I'm not embarrassed to say the word...
> > > ethics.
> >
> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXQ940YSD2A
> >
> > When you cannot trust a fixed fight,
> > what can you trust? Were back with anarchy.
>
> There's a saying in Texas - if you can't trust a fixed election....

Coincidentally, or not, the Coen brothers are from Texas.

--
Old Fritz


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 7:49 pm
From: Anton Berlin


On Jul 19, 9:46 pm, Frederick the Great <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> In article
> <3d80a94d-0d33-43b2-b428-7c7b87663...@w12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
>  Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 19, 5:22 pm, Frederick the Great <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <c5eea7c1-c543-4d63-8eb6-0c6aef715...@i31g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> > >  Choppy Warburton <choppywarbur...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I'm talking about, hell Leo, I'm not embarrassed to say the word...
> > > > ethics.
>
> > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXQ940YSD2A
>
> > > When you cannot trust a fixed fight,
> > > what can you trust? Were back with anarchy.
>
> > There's a saying in Texas - if you can't trust a fixed election....
>
> Coincidentally, or not, the Coen brothers are from Texas.
>
> --
> Old Fritz

I know it seems like that with all of that Blood Simple and No Country
for Old Men but they are from Minnesota and live in New York.


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 8:18 pm
From: "Kurgan Gringioni"

"Anton Berlin" <truth_88888@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:f5648360-1faf-469b-bd99-54ad3f17ffec@z10g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...

>
> Coincidentally, or not, the Coen brothers are from Texas.
>
> --
> Old Fritz

:: I know it seems like that with all of that Blood Simple and No Country
:: for Old Men but they are from Minnesota and live in New York.

Dumbass -

Fargo.

thanks,

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.


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TOPIC: Two observations
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/d9c3e765d998886a?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 7:47 pm
From: Frederick the Great


In article <i20om8$phe$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
"Kurgan Gringioni" <soulinthemachine@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Frederick the Great" <rubrum@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:rubrum-FC70BB.00191218072010@news.albasani.net...
> : In article <i1tcu8$ilk$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
> : "Kurgan Gringioni" <soulinthemachine@gmail.com> wrote:
> :
> : > "Frederick the Great" <rubrum@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> : > news:rubrum-AF8628.01082817072010@news.albasani.net...
> : > : In article <i1r9v0$pa8$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
> : > : "Kurgan Gringioni" <soulinthemachine@gmail.com> wrote:
> : > :
> : > : > "Frederick the Great" <rubrum@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> : > : > news:rubrum-45D3C9.14115916072010@news.albasani.net...
> : > : > :
> : > : > : Possibly not. The green jersey is often won by the
> : > : > : fastest sprinter. The mountains jersey is never won by
> : > : > : the strongest climber.
> : > : >
> : > : > Dumbass -
> : > : >
> : > : > Sometimes it is.
> : > :
> : > : Recently?
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : > Dumbass -
> : >
> : > You wrote 'never'.
> :
> : I know.
> :
> : Recently?
>
>
>
> Dumbass -
>
> Michael Rasmussen. 2005 & 2006.

Thanks. I am wrong about that.

--
Old Fritz

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TOPIC: The RBR Survey - some funny data in there now that Landis has confessed.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/5b5d9cd9cc6ed281?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 7:52 pm
From: Ryan Cousineau


On Jul 18, 12:41 pm, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Recall last year - I did an RBR survey and posted the results in
> here.
>
> Funny now to see that there were still many holdouts with 29% either
> unsure, or unlikely that Landis was a doper.
>
> Others as not doping?  (unsure or unlikely)  51% for Big Mig 50% for
> Lance, 47% for Contrador and only 16% of Tyler Hamilton
>
> Here's the entire survey again.  Just wait for the 20 seconds to
> elapse then hit the download now.  Requires Adobe
>
> http://www.4shared.com/document/w3pCPQFL/RBR_Survey.html

Intractable sample size problem?


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 8:11 pm
From: Anton Berlin


almost 100 is a pretty good sample especially considering the
lurkers. Less than 100 post in this room each week (it seems)

Here's cozy beehive for those 50% -Lance is clean unsure and likely's

http://cozybeehive.blogspot.com/2009/11/8-things-on-lance-armstrong-from-other.html


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TOPIC: backstage at the tour
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 7:55 pm
From: Ben Trovato


My translation of an article from Le Temps about daily setup at the
TdF.

Tour de France vendredi16 juillet 2010
Les hommes de main
Texte: Ariane Pellaton

Each morning, beginning at the crack of dawn, the installation of the
finish zone is both a challenge and an adventure. Reportage from Les
Rousses, at the heart of a peloton of the night.

It's a pale early morning on the Tour. It could be Spa, Morzine, or
Bourg-lès-Valence. At five a.m. the Grande Boucle is still merely
notional when Jean-Louis Pagès, an ASO manager, draws a chalk finish
line, breaking the silence. Like so many iron behemoths, dozens of
tractor-trailers park themselves within a centimeter's leeway of the
spots they've been assigned by a finely-detailed plan, France
Televisions's control bus being the cornerstone of the edifice which
constitutes a finish area. It takes around ten men to arrange the big
elements. Under their hands, the trucks unfold into a press box, VIP
bleachers, podium. It's something like a clockwork origami.

No fewer than 150 trucks will take their places, eight containing
security barriers, twenty from France Télévisions, a veritable lung
pumping out the news. As supervisor of the technical zone, Jean-
Claude Cabo reviews the heights of buildings and the tree canopy to
determine if the antennas will function. The pruners, subject to
daily mobilization, won't be required. "One of the challenges comes
from the presence of houses and street blocks. It's the sort of
finish that's a red zone."

6:30 am. The first technicians appear. The ground is strewn with
cables, a tangle that would measure thirty-five kilometers if
stretched out. Beyond the finish line, the giant screen has risen up;
at their windows, the residents peep through their curtains. Jean-
Louis Pagès, who serves as the stage manager for a space of seven
hectares [~ 20 acres], takes care to greet one by one all the
forgotten actors of the Tour, who appear in his field of view
according to an unstated schedule, like well-oiled clockwork in which
everyone plays their role in a visible complexity. "We're all
responsible for one another. The day we no longer have time to shake
hands, it's over. We're all under pressure. You have to understand
that. My job is to manage people's effort over the long term. So
they can hold up." Contagiously upbeat, he covers kilometers. "Keep
in mind the sidewalks when you set up the barriers," he reminds the
young folks marking out the access paths to the line. "And here,
we'll have to create an exit so the residents who have to go buy their
bread can get out." The signage wranglers appear. Jean-Louis Pagès
has eyes everywhere. "There aren't enough directional arrows at the
highway exit."

The Tour de France has gotten dressed. The truck containers have
mutated into flowered terraces and windowed cabins, the grills of the
barriers into fields of color. Everything had been gray. Now it all
pulsates to the background sound system. 8:30 am at a Tour de France
under development: three blasts of a horn resound. A hundred people
converge on the finish line for the scheduled daily meeting, a
ritual. "Watch yourselves", Jean-Louis Pagès concludes. Eyes have
bags under them. The manager of the technical area, Jean-Claude Cabo,
has only had two hours of sleep. "I have to watch out for the
drivers' fatigue," he comments. "This isn't individual work. We all
think of each other, because everyone grafts on someone else's work."
The morning's first arrivals go off.

Backstage slavehands, these men live the Tour de France both
completely bound up with the event, and yet at a remove. They never
really see the race. "Now and then, I watch the stage back at the
hotel, but we usually try to get some sleep during the afternoons,"
says Alain Verpalese, of the technical zone. "I look at the results
of my work. If we're not ready, there's no Tour de France. Every day,
it's a city on the move. The worst are the mountain stages. We go up
at night with the trucks, and every year, we're scared there's going
to be some incident with people partying by the road. Some nights, we
don't sleep, we just grab some rest in half-hour stretches."

Henri Terreaux, the event manager with Orange-France Telecom tasked
with coordinating the installation of 500 communication lines in just
two hours, doesn't say it much differently. "Don't ask me who won
yesterday!" What do they perceive of the Tour de France? "We don't
see the scenery. We could arrive by the shore, and we'll never
glimpse the sea. We have the smell of the fresh air, the lavender,
in Rotterdam the spray . The chirping of the crickets. That's our
journey. The different culinary idioms, as well."

If the setup of the Tour de France is a veritable challenge, rough
patches don't seem to exist. Here, fatigue forms a bond. "It's
enormously enriching, because the values of solidarity and friendship
are paramount, " continues Henri Terreaux. "It like putting up a big
tent. When we separate that evening on the Champs-Elysées, everyone
goes off, careful not to say goodbye. A year later, we come together
as if we'd never parted and the race hadn't stopped. It's very
strange. Every morning we hug, heartfelt, it grabs your guts. That's
why it all holds together. We're not in the phony part of the race.
We're in the human part. Where it's real. So people feel extremely
attached."

Bright morning on the Tour. It's ten o'clock. The line's drawn in
white on the pavement. Above it, they're positioning the last camera
cabling with the help of a pole. The set up of the Tour comes to a
close, in a symbiosis with the days when racers sped night and day
along the roads of France with a lamp attached to their handlebars.

c. Le Temps SA

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 8:03 pm
From: Anton Berlin


What the fuck Ben? Not one god damn sentence in there about Lance,
Lemond or Contrador's slimy tactics.

For fucks sake mate !


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 8:16 pm
From: Ben Trovato


On Jul 19, 8:03 pm, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> What the fuck Ben?  Not one god damn sentence in there about Lance,
> Lemond or Contrador's slimy tactics.
>
> For fucks sake mate !

Me fais pas chier avec ton Fortinbas, CitronD et patati. Et puis, le
comptable, merde, il prouve qu'il sait bien compter.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 7:57 pm
From: Anton Berlin

5. Power calculation from Tour stages : Frédéric Portoleau has a page
put up where he has power estimates of various top riders from this
year's Tour. According to him, Andy Schleck climbed the ascent to
Avoriaz in 33min 12s, expending some 417W of power. That gives a power/
weight ratio of 6.1 W/kg. Alberto put down 415W of power, making his
power to weight ratio some 6.8 W/kg. Certainly seems way off the
charts, so I'm not sure how reliable all this data is.

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cyclismag.com%2Farticle.php%3Fsid%3D5950&sl=auto&tl=en


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TOPIC: Lance and Greg
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/6bc23606505927cf?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 7:58 pm
From: DirtRoadie


On Jul 19, 7:20 pm, Superfly TNT <superfly-...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/23qdhgl

OK, I'll admit, I was expecting another lame xtranormal video.
Their novelty wore off a long time ago.

I would guess that's not a recent photo.

DR

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TOPIC: Lance Armstrong is am inspiration to all those suffering from cancer !
How dare you smite him?!!!
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 8:01 pm
From: Anton Berlin


Lance has unselfishly committed to donating a dime from every $40 case
of his energy drink FRS that you ballgarglers buy. And as a devoted
teabagger Lance actually dips his ball into 1 out of every 10,000 cans
but be careful... don't expect to pass your next piss test if you're
one of the lucky few to get a teabagged raspberry fizzfuck.

http://www.frs.com/pdf/FRS-Team-LIVESTRONG-Release-5-12-10.pdf


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TOPIC: Is this dude crazy?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/399982bce7c774ec?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 8:02 pm
From: DirtRoadie


On Jul 19, 6:52 pm, Superfly TNT <superfly-...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/2f95rsc

Which one?

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TOPIC: Greg LeMond interviewed by Jeff Novitzky
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 8:04 pm
From: Michael Press


In article
<eb290cfe-03dd-4cca-9925-aa13a97ab951@d16g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
Anton Berlin <truth_88888@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Some of the most intelligent people I know talk in this flighty
> disconnected way. I've always wondered if their brains are processing
> faster than they are able to verbalize.
>
> Essentially, I think Lemond is right but I think he learned a few
> tricks from Eddy. (we all did) wink wink

It is not a sign of intelligence to lose track
of one's narrative. Get a clear idea; make it
clear to one's audience. That is intelligent.

--
Michael Press

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TOPIC: Andy Schmuck's Strategy ???
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/83b6c5b72bf22b4b?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 8:17 pm
From: Frederick the Great


In article
<1482631e-ac09-4a68-86df-d701257ad6d0@w15g2000pro.googlegroups.com>,
Zeno <zwarbirdmail@zenoswarbirdvideos.com> wrote:

> On Jul 19, 12:35 pm, Amit Ghosh <amit.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jul 19, 12:14 pm, "Kurgan Gringioni" <soulinthemach...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Dumbass -
> >
> > > Someone has to fuck up in a crash too.
> >
> > > Etiquitte is a soft rule, but it does exist.
> >
> > dumbass,
> >
> > etiquette in cycling works like this: if there is nothing at stake or
> > nothing to gain there is unwritten etiquette, if there is something to
> > gain then there in no consideration for etiquette.
> >
> > when schleck's gruber failed the attacks were already underway.
>
> The idea that unwritten etiquette only matters when it doesn't matter
> is clueless.
>
> After the race, AC justified not waiting for Andy by saying that when
> Andy had his mechanical, he (AC) had already started "an attack" and
> he just continued it That is of course pure, unadulterated B.S. It
> was Andy who was attacking AC, and he had put some space on him. AC
> was playing catch up along with the others. When they passed the
> yellow jersey, he was in the middle of the road trying to put his
> chain back on.
>
> Does AC think nobody saw what happened and he can pass along any lame
> excuse? He panicked, took advantage, and then he lied about what
> happened. That just tells me that AC quickly realized that not waiting
> for Andy, though perfectly legal, made him look like an immature,
> classless opportunist, rather than a great champion.
>
> If AC had waited for Andy, he would have added to his legend, glory,
> and honor --- and would still clobber Andy in the time trial anyway

I do not care about Contador as a great champion.
That is for wankers who have nothing better to do
on cold winter nights.

I care about Contador putting in the boot after
he matched Schleck's attack. Next winter I will
not think about it unless people are still arguing
about sportsmanship here.

I am beginning to think Magilla is right;
though that will change when he shows up.

In Contador's place after the stage,
Armstrong would have laughed.

--
Old Fritz


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[socialactionfoundationforequity:3663 Assam law to regulate mobile theatre

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Assam law to regulate mobile theatre
http://igovernment.in/site/assam-law-regulate-mobile-theatre-38014

It is aimed at protecting cultural standards and artistes involved in
mobile theatre
Published on 07/19/2010

Guwahati: Assam government is all set to enact a law to regulate the
growth of mobile theatres which has been one of the most popular forms
of entertainment in the state.

The government will table the Assam Mobile Theatre (regulation and
artistes' Welfare Fund) Bill, 2010 in the Monsoon Session of State
Assembly that envisages protecting cultural standards and artistes
with mobile theatres.

The Bill makes it mandatory for all mobile theatre groups to register
themselves with the state cultural department, pay a fee, renew the
registration and follow certain norms to keep up its rich cultural
standards. The state Cultural Affairs Minister Bharat Chandra Narah
said the new Bill once passed by the Assembly will come handy to
regulate the state's distinctive mobile theatres and to check
haphazard growth of the theatres and their sudden disappearance
leaving the artistes and workers in the lurch.

Mobile theatres had started way back in the 60's in rural Assam and
soon grew into the most popular medium of entertainment in not just
the rural areas but in the urban and the city as well. The mobile
theatres carry their sets, lighting and technical equipments and
artists from place to place and stage plays. It is not just a mode of
entertainment; the mobile theatres have acted as a medium for
awareness on various social issues.

There are about an estimated 30 mobile theatres but apart from just
handful, the rest have stay for a temporary period and vanish into the
thin air. About 4000 artists, technicians and non-technical people are
associated in the business.

The Bill also plans to set up an Artist Welfare Fund and the fund
collected from the theatre companies as registration fees, renewal
fees and as fine and other donation will form the fund.

The Bill says, "Mobile theatres in the recent years have faced a
situation of midway closures, leaving the workers and artistes in the
lurch. The haphazard growth of the mobile theatres has also affected
the viability of the existing established players. Object of the Bill
is also to make provisions so as to facilitate the maintenance of
cultural standards of mobile theatres in Assam".

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:3663 Soon, file FIRs online in Punjab

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Soon, file FIRs online in Punjab
http://igovernment.in/site/soon-file-firs-online-punjab-38015

The system will bring transparency in police functioning and help the
complainants to keep a track on their complaints and the progress made
on them
Published on 07/19/2010 - 1
By Hemant Singh

Chandigarh: Now residents of Punjab need not go to police stations to
file their complaints as they can do it from their personal computers
or laptops. The Punjab Police is all set to introduce an online
delivery system within a month that will allow the submission and
verification of complaints at a click of the computer's mouse.

For those who don't have any access to the Internet, the state will
establish kiosks at its community policing centres as well as at
public places so that they can also avail the benefits of the online
system.

"All the complaints would be processed at the police headquarters,
which will act as a centralised complaint receipt centre. Linkages
will be established between the headquarters and the police stations
at the district, subdivision and police station levels so that
complaints could be dispatched to the police station concerned,"
Punjab Governance Reforms System Chairman Pramod Kumar said.

The online system will help the complainants to keep a track on their
complaints and the progress made on them.

"They can check on the Internet whether their FIRs have been
registered or not, how far the investigation has headed, and if a
challan has been presented in the relevant court or not," Kumar added.

According to a Reforms Commission report, on an average every year,
against two lakh complaints received by the police only 58,000 cases
are registered. Out of these, investigation was conducted only in 65
per cent of the cases and charge-sheets finally presented in only
30,000 odd cases.

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:3661 Srilanka: If this isn't GENOCIDE, WAR CRIME, Then What on Earth is?

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Please Sign: Srilanka: If this isn't GENOCIDE, WAR CRIME, Then What on
Earth is?

www.gopetition.com/petitions/justice-and-reconciliation-for-tamils.html

http://www.change.org/petitions/view/srilanka_if_this_isnt_genocide_war_crime_then_what_on_earth_is

People from across the globe are condemning the Human rights
violations of Srilankan government. And civilized society is fighting
hard to establish the justice to the tamils. Killing of nearly
1,40,000 innocents, war crimes, ongoing slaughter on the journalists,
moderates, reformists, artists and having opposition leader behind the
bars make the Srilanka as a criminal and a failed state.

List of few Evidences :

People's Permanent Tribunal found Srilanka guilty of war crimes and
Genocide.

UN's Human Rights Chief is critical of Lankan government Human rights
records.

US human rights report accused Lankan rulers for the Human Rights
violations.

For your reference i am attaching the supporting evidences for war
crimes and Genocide

Internally displaced persons (IDPs)

Internal Colonialism of Sri Lanka!

http://vkr1976.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/IC.pdf

IDP's Let the people go

http://vkr1976.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Status-of-detained-Tamils-in-concentration-camps-Revision-4.pdf

Dublin Tribunal finds against Sri Lanka on charges of War Crimes

http://www.ifpsl.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=24&Itemid=1

Experts to advise Ban Ki Moon on Sri Lanka 's alleged war-crimes

http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=31310

Permanent People's Tribunal report

http://www.ifpsl.org/images/files/peoples_tribunal_on_srilanka.pdf

Authenticated Video Recording of an Extra-judicial Execution of
Unarmed Prisoners

http://www.tamilnet.com/img/publish/2010/01/TAG-PPT-Extra-judicial_Executions-V3.pdf

Satellite Imagery Evidence Showing Sri Lanka Military "Purposely or
Intentionally" Targeted PTK Hospital

http://www.tamilsagainstgenocide.org/Docs/DublinTribunal/TAG-PPT-PTK-Hospital-Satellite-Final.pdf

Colombo 's cluster bomb attack on civilians in Vanni challenges
international norms

http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=27625

www.warwithoutwitness.com

http://genocidesrilanka.blogspot.com/

http://warwithoutwitness.com/index.php?option=com_phocagallery&view=category&id=3:20th-march-2009&Itemid=54

http://www.warwithoutwitness.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=34&Itemid=55

Chemical Bomb

http://www.uktamilnews.com/?p=13034

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/sri-lankan-army-used-chemical-weapons-tamils-war-zones

http://www.stoptamilsgenocide.org/?p=151

Rape of Tamil Women: Sri Lankan Army's Weapon of War

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/rape-tamil-women-sri-lankan-armys-weapon-war

http://www.blackjuly83.com/EventsofBlackJuly.htm

Sri Lanka video 'appears authentic' By Jonathan Miller - Channel 4
News

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/world/asia_pacific/sri+lanka+video+aposappears+authenticapos/3491637

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/world/asia_pacific/sri+lanka+video+un+considers+violations/3493047

Sri Lanka execution video 'Not Fake'

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/politics/international_politics/sri+lanka+execution+video+aposnot+fakeapos/346415

2

Child Without Head

http://esocialbytes.blogspot.com/2009/04/light-hearted-do-not-see-tamils-in.html

Arunthathi Roy's article about Srilanka

http://esocialbytes.blogspot.com/2009/04/silent-horror-of-war-in-srilanka.html

LTTE not a terrorist organisation - Karen Parker

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/ltte-not-terrorist-organisation-karen-parker

India upset with China over Sri Lanka crisis - Chellaney

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India-upset-with-China-over-Sri-Lanka-crisis/articleshow/4449209.cms

How Cuba and the ABLA Let Down Tamils

Genocide in Sri Lanka

By RON RIDENOUR

http://www.counterpunch.org/ridenour11162009.html

The Historic Right to Nationhood Tamil Eelam

By RON RIDENOUR

http://www.counterpunch.org/ridenour11182009.html

INTERNATIONAL CRISIS GROUP (ICG)'s Report on War Crimes in Sri Lanka

http://www.crisisgroup.org/en/regions/asia/south-asia/sri-lanka/191-war-crimes-in-sri-lanka.aspx

Srilankan Tamil Killings "Ordered from the Top" - Senior Srilankan
Army Commander - By Jonathan Miller - Channel 4 News

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/politics/international_politics/sri+lanka+option/3652687

Sri Lanka: New Evidence of Wartime Abuses - Human Rights Watch
http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2010/05/20/sri-lanka-new-evidence-wartime-abuses

Using Food and Medicine as a Weapon of War

http://www.humanrights-server.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=26%3Alebensmittel-und-medizin-als-krie

gswaffe&catid=7%3Akriegsverbrechen&Itemid=8&lang=en

Prisoners in Secret Camps

http://www.humanrights-server.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4%3Agefangene&catid=7%3Akriegsverb

rechen&Itemid=8&lang=en

Ex-Sri Lankan Forces: Top Commanders Ordered Killings of Tamil
Prisoners

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/5/25/headlines/ex_sri_lankan_forces_top_commanders_ordered_killings_of_tamil_prisoners

PUCL calls for UN military intervention and war crimes trials of Sri
Lankan leaders

http://www.pucl.org/Topics/International/2009/lanka_crisis.html

Rajapaksa extremism cannot be changed: Lee Kuan Yew. Singapore's
Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew

http://www.allvoices.com/news/5947796-sri-lanka-rajapaksa-extremism-cannot-be-changed-lee-kuan-yew

Muthamizh
Chennai
India

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:3661 Please Sign: Srilanka: If this isn't GENOCIDE, WAR CRIME, Then What on Earth is?

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Please Sign: Srilanka: If this isn't GENOCIDE, WAR CRIME, Then What on
Earth is?

www.gopetition.com/petitions/justice-and-reconciliation-for-tamils.html

http://www.change.org/petitions/view/srilanka_if_this_isnt_genocide_war_crime_then_what_on_earth_is

People from across the globe are condemning the Human rights
violations of Srilankan government. And civilized society is fighting
hard to establish the justice to the tamils. Killing of nearly
1,40,000 innocents, war crimes, ongoing slaughter on the journalists,
moderates, reformists, artists and having opposition leader behind the
bars make the Srilanka as a criminal and a failed state.

List of few Evidences :

People's Permanent Tribunal found Srilanka guilty of war crimes and
Genocide.

UN's Human Rights Chief is critical of Lankan government Human rights
records.

US human rights report accused Lankan rulers for the Human Rights
violations.

For your reference i am attaching the supporting evidences for war
crimes and Genocide

Internally displaced persons (IDPs)

Internal Colonialism of Sri Lanka!

http://vkr1976.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/IC.pdf

IDP's Let the people go

http://vkr1976.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Status-of-detained-Tamils-in-concentration-camps-Revision-4.pdf

Dublin Tribunal finds against Sri Lanka on charges of War Crimes

http://www.ifpsl.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=24&Itemid=1

Experts to advise Ban Ki Moon on Sri Lanka 's alleged war-crimes

http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=31310

Permanent People's Tribunal report

http://www.ifpsl.org/images/files/peoples_tribunal_on_srilanka.pdf

Authenticated Video Recording of an Extra-judicial Execution of
Unarmed Prisoners

http://www.tamilnet.com/img/publish/2010/01/TAG-PPT-Extra-judicial_Executions-V3.pdf

Satellite Imagery Evidence Showing Sri Lanka Military "Purposely or
Intentionally" Targeted PTK Hospital

http://www.tamilsagainstgenocide.org/Docs/DublinTribunal/TAG-PPT-PTK-Hospital-Satellite-Final.pdf

Colombo 's cluster bomb attack on civilians in Vanni challenges
international norms

http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=27625

www.warwithoutwitness.com

http://genocidesrilanka.blogspot.com/

http://warwithoutwitness.com/index.php?option=com_phocagallery&view=category&id=3:20th-march-2009&Itemid=54

http://www.warwithoutwitness.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=34&Itemid=55

Chemical Bomb

http://www.uktamilnews.com/?p=13034

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/sri-lankan-army-used-chemical-weapons-tamils-war-zones

http://www.stoptamilsgenocide.org/?p=151

Rape of Tamil Women: Sri Lankan Army's Weapon of War

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/rape-tamil-women-sri-lankan-armys-weapon-war

http://www.blackjuly83.com/EventsofBlackJuly.htm

Sri Lanka video 'appears authentic' By Jonathan Miller - Channel 4
News

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/world/asia_pacific/sri+lanka+video+aposappears+authenticapos/3491637

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/world/asia_pacific/sri+lanka+video+un+considers+violations/3493047

Sri Lanka execution video 'Not Fake'

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/politics/international_politics/sri+lanka+execution+video+aposnot+fakeapos/346415

2

Child Without Head

http://esocialbytes.blogspot.com/2009/04/light-hearted-do-not-see-tamils-in.html

Arunthathi Roy's article about Srilanka

http://esocialbytes.blogspot.com/2009/04/silent-horror-of-war-in-srilanka.html

LTTE not a terrorist organisation - Karen Parker

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/ltte-not-terrorist-organisation-karen-parker

India upset with China over Sri Lanka crisis - Chellaney

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India-upset-with-China-over-Sri-Lanka-crisis/articleshow/4449209.cms

How Cuba and the ABLA Let Down Tamils

Genocide in Sri Lanka

By RON RIDENOUR

http://www.counterpunch.org/ridenour11162009.html

The Historic Right to Nationhood Tamil Eelam

By RON RIDENOUR

http://www.counterpunch.org/ridenour11182009.html

INTERNATIONAL CRISIS GROUP (ICG)'s Report on War Crimes in Sri Lanka

http://www.crisisgroup.org/en/regions/asia/south-asia/sri-lanka/191-war-crimes-in-sri-lanka.aspx

Srilankan Tamil Killings "Ordered from the Top" - Senior Srilankan
Army Commander - By Jonathan Miller - Channel 4 News

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/politics/international_politics/sri+lanka+option/3652687

Sri Lanka: New Evidence of Wartime Abuses - Human Rights Watch
http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2010/05/20/sri-lanka-new-evidence-wartime-abuses

Using Food and Medicine as a Weapon of War

http://www.humanrights-server.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=26%3Alebensmittel-und-medizin-als-krie

gswaffe&catid=7%3Akriegsverbrechen&Itemid=8&lang=en

Prisoners in Secret Camps

http://www.humanrights-server.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4%3Agefangene&catid=7%3Akriegsverb

rechen&Itemid=8&lang=en

Ex-Sri Lankan Forces: Top Commanders Ordered Killings of Tamil
Prisoners

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/5/25/headlines/ex_sri_lankan_forces_top_commanders_ordered_killings_of_tamil_prisoners

PUCL calls for UN military intervention and war crimes trials of Sri
Lankan leaders

http://www.pucl.org/Topics/International/2009/lanka_crisis.html

Rajapaksa extremism cannot be changed: Lee Kuan Yew. Singapore's
Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew

http://www.allvoices.com/news/5947796-sri-lanka-rajapaksa-extremism-cannot-be-changed-lee-kuan-yew

Muthamizh
Chennai
India

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* Andy Schmuck's Strategy ??? - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/83b6c5b72bf22b4b?hl=en
* If this is clean cycling... Let me the first to say - 6 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/aea3975ed1765345?hl=en
* Anyone else sick of hearing these British announcers gush over riders - 3
messages, 3 authors
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* What's the ruckus? - 5 messages, 5 authors
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* Greg LeMond interviewed by Jeff Novitzky - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Pretty bad when your ethics pale to Vino's. Hey AC ? - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/f173d92d8b163526?hl=en
* Who's Choppy Warburton and why you should give a rats ass. - 1 messages, 1
author
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* Whatever - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Is this dude crazy? - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Put this into your German translater bitches! - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* Lance and Greg - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: Andy Schmuck's Strategy ???
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 2:56 pm
From: Zeno


On Jul 19, 12:35 pm, Amit Ghosh <amit.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 19, 12:14 pm, "Kurgan Gringioni" <soulinthemach...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Dumbass -
>
> > Someone has to fuck up in a crash too.
>
> > Etiquitte is a soft rule, but it does exist.
>
> dumbass,
>
> etiquette in cycling works like this: if there is nothing at stake or
> nothing to gain there is unwritten etiquette, if there is something to
> gain then there in no consideration for etiquette.
>
> when schleck's gruber failed the attacks were already underway.

The idea that unwritten etiquette only matters when it doesn't matter
is clueless.

After the race, AC justified not waiting for Andy by saying that when
Andy had his mechanical, he (AC) had already started "an attack" and
he just continued it That is of course pure, unadulterated B.S. It
was Andy who was attacking AC, and he had put some space on him. AC
was playing catch up along with the others. When they passed the
yellow jersey, he was in the middle of the road trying to put his
chain back on.

Does AC think nobody saw what happened and he can pass along any lame
excuse? He panicked, took advantage, and then he lied about what
happened. That just tells me that AC quickly realized that not waiting
for Andy, though perfectly legal, made him look like an immature,
classless opportunist, rather than a great champion.

If AC had waited for Andy, he would have added to his legend, glory,
and honor --- and would still clobber Andy in the time trial anyway


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 4:29 pm
From: Anton Berlin


On Jul 19, 10:25 am, "Kurgan Gringioni" <soulinthemach...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> "Anton Berlin" <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:8bbd6057-e6fc-432b-8aac-787649eb7596@d37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 19, 12:53 am, "Kurgan Gringioni" <soulinthemach...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Anton Berlin" <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:19c2df88-18e1-4770-8c8f-3916a7aaab48@t10g2000yqg.googlegroups.com...
> > : Unless he's got a deal with Menchov and Sanchez to put Contrador on
> > : the ropes for him by threatening GC.
> > :
> > : Then thinks he can take them in the cols and TT today was fucking a
> > : joke.
> > :
> > : He needed to take more time out of AC and playing rope a dope was not
> > : a good strategy IMHO.
> > :
> > : Anyone else?
>
> > Dumbass -
>
> > Schleck is waiting for a better climb. Today's was too short. Contador is
> > better on than Schleck at that. Schleck's more suited to a longer climb.
>
> > He'll try attacking Contador in the longer Pyrenean climbs. May not work.
> > I''m just explaining the Saxo Bank thinking.
>
> > thanks,
>
> > Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.
>
> :: yeah yeah
> ::
> ::http://www.steephill.tv/players/eurosport/v1/?title=Schleck%3A%20I%20...
> ::
> ::http://www.steephill.tv/players/eurosport/v1/?title=Riis%3A%20Schleck...
>
> Dumbass -
>
> As usual, I was right. Schleck attacked today.
>
> thanks,
>
> Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.

Tilford (and Riis) have an interesting take -

I've never raced the Tour. But, I've race a ton of long stage races.
I'm not sure if the riders are cognoscente of the live media coverage
or what. But, explain what was going on today? I mean between Schleck
and Contador?

All these people are raving about these "psychological battles", "mind
games" and the mental pressure of the stage. Stupidity. That is the
only thing I can come up with here. Obviously, Andy Schleck wanted to
ride behind Contador on all the climbs. Especially the final climb. He
was worried that if he got ahead of Contador, Contador would jump him
and he wouldn't be able to match the acceleration and loose more time.
So when Contador decides to call him on it, they both coast off the
back of the "field". I understand it up to that point.

What I don't understand is why they never finished it. They never
jumped. If you take someone off the back in bike racing, or get taken
off the back, and except that is what is happening, then you recognize
that you've been challenged or are challenging the rider you are with.
In that case, it is settled by one rider trying to bridge back up the
the group without the other. One of them needed to jump. But, no. We
don't get to see what should of happened. By should, I mean, that both
riders knew what was up here.

I guess Andy Schleck blinked and told Alberto that he would pull back
up. What was that? They just gave 3rd and 4th on CG time and didn't do
anything but ride stupidly. The time was kind of meaningless. Some
call it a truce. If it is a truce, then they should of called the
truce before they were 20 seconds behind and just ridden to the finish
with Menchov and Sanchez. I don't get it. It must be something for TV.
Schleck needs time. If he wasn't planning on getting any today then he
should of stayed with the lead group and kept his guard up for an
attack by Contador. Their posturing didn't do anything for me. To me
it was like watching a okay movie that had an abrupt finish that
pronounces a sequel. Maybe I missed something.

Here it is a few hours after I posted this and saw this quote from
Bjarne Riis (Team director Saxo Bank) - "I think it was stupid for
both (to stop attacking). I don't support those actions. When they are
in the middle of it, I don't interfere (with tactics)," Riis said. I
was surprised to see he used the same adjective (stupid) as me. (And,
when they are in the middle of it, I don't interfere with tactics
either.)

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TOPIC: If this is clean cycling... Let me the first to say
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/aea3975ed1765345?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 3:01 pm
From: "B. Lafferty"


On 7/19/2010 5:43 PM, Rik Van Slick wrote:
> On Jul 19, 5:26 pm, "B. Lafferty"<b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> "B. Lafferty"<b...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>> news:_Z6dnb0wH8-f0dnRnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
>
>> Analyze Indurain if you like. For all I know he has been. Tell us the
>> wattage he put our on various climbs and then tell us your "thoughts" on
>> the Olano/Indurain one two in Colombia.
>
>
> That was some awesome spectacle! That's why the sport needs doping -
> we want to see giant Euros powering up Colombian climbs faster than
> those scrawny locals. Anything else is sooo regular.

It's one of my favorite videos. Some of the expressions on the
Colombian faces are priceless. I think it was Lucho Herrara who said he
knew it was time to retire when he was being passed on the climbs by fat
assed Europeans.
>
> Watching Vino hammer away at the front yesterday like some sort beast
> made me think: Golly, there is a guy who has returned from his two
> year suspension clean as a whistle. Riding right up at the same level
> as before that nasty two year layoff. Just like the Chicken, Basso,
> Landis, and to a lesser extent, Rico.
>

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 3:02 pm
From: "B. Lafferty"


On 7/19/2010 5:46 PM, Uncle Dave wrote:
> On Jul 19, 5:35 pm, "B. Lafferty"<b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> On 7/19/2010 9:26 AM, Scott wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 19, 6:58 am, "B. Lafferty"<b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>> On 7/19/2010 8:36 AM, Scott wrote:
>>
>>>>> On Jul 18, 9:43 am, Anton Berlin<truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> BRING BACK THE FUCKING DOPE !!!! I about fell asleep during today's
>>>>>> stage.
>>
>>>>>> Let these mother fuckers use every possible drug and procedure known
>>>>>> to mankind.
>>
>>>>>> I miss the days of Ricco, Ullrich, Pantani, an Armstrong that
>>>>>> mattered, and a linebacker like Indurain climbing like a mountain goat.
>>
>>>>> For the record, you can stop referring to Indurain in any way to imply
>>>>> he's a big man. For years I thought he was big, too, based on all the
>>>>> comments from Phil/Paul, etc... but... he was in CO for awhile one
>>>>> year in the late 90's (whatever year that was that the WC was in South
>>>>> America and a lot of pros came to CO for altitude training). There
>>>>> was a race at the Air Force Academy and they were all there. The
>>>>> crowd was all gaga over his presence, so of course I had to see for
>>>>> myself. Big??? nah, nothing to him. Bordering on tiny, actually,
>>>>> just a little taller than the others, but not big. The typical 15
>>>>> y.o. kid at track nationals is bigger than Indurain.
>>
>>>> The year the World RR was held in Colombia (1995), Mig was there and he
>>>> appeared to be a giant compared to the Colombian climbers who all got
>>>> blown away by----------the Euro dopers. A non-juiced Mig would not have
>>>> done what he did in Columbia. Olano, Mig, Pantani. Watch the video again.
>>
>>> Giant? What did I say... he is not big. Tall, perhaps, but not big,
>>> and certainly not so tall that he couldn't develop his strength/weight
>>> ratio to appropriate levels w/out doping. Your sister could take him
>>> in a bar fight.
>>
>> Compared to the Colombians, Indurain looks like a giant (as does Olano).
>> Try not to be too literal. You'll enjoy life more as a
>> non-literalist.
>
> Literally? As in "Armstrong just literally exploded on that climb"?
>
> UD
Yeah. He went soooooooooo hard that he blew himself up. :-)


== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 4:08 pm
From: Scott


On Jul 19, 7:36 am, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 19, 7:36 am, Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 18, 9:43 am, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > BRING BACK THE FUCKING DOPE !!!!    I about fell asleep during today's
> > > stage.
>
> > >  Let these mother fuckers use every possible drug and procedure known
> > > to mankind.
>
> > > I miss the days of Ricco, Ullrich, Pantani, an Armstrong that
> > > mattered, and a linebacker like Indurain climbing like a mountain goat.
>
> > For the record, you can stop referring to Indurain in any way to imply
> > he's a big man.  For years I thought he was big, too, based on all the
> > comments from Phil/Paul, etc...  but... he was in CO for awhile one
> > year in the late 90's (whatever year that was that the WC was in South
> > America and a lot of pros came to CO for altitude training).  There
> > was a race at the Air Force Academy and they were all there.   The
> > crowd was all gaga over his presence, so of course I had to see for
> > myself.  Big??? nah, nothing to him.  Bordering on tiny, actually,
> > just a little taller than the others, but not big.  The typical 15
> > y.o. kid at track nationals is bigger than Indurain.
>
> 6"2 180-190 is big for a tour cyclist and giant for one that is
> winning.

I don't know where you're finding your stats on Indurain, but I can
guarantee you this: the man I stood next to that day in Colorado
Springs didn't weigh anywhere near 180lbs.


== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 4:10 pm
From: Scott


On Jul 19, 10:35 am, "B. Lafferty" <b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On 7/19/2010 9:26 AM, Scott wrote:
>
> > On Jul 19, 6:58 am, "B. Lafferty"<b...@nowhere.com>  wrote:
> >> On 7/19/2010 8:36 AM, Scott wrote:
>
> >>> On Jul 18, 9:43 am, Anton Berlin<truth_88...@yahoo.com>    wrote:
> >>>> BRING BACK THE FUCKING DOPE !!!!    I about fell asleep during today's
> >>>> stage.
>
> >>>>    Let these mother fuckers use every possible drug and procedure known
> >>>> to mankind.
>
> >>>> I miss the days of Ricco, Ullrich, Pantani, an Armstrong that
> >>>> mattered, and a linebacker like Indurain climbing like a mountain goat.
>
> >>> For the record, you can stop referring to Indurain in any way to imply
> >>> he's a big man.  For years I thought he was big, too, based on all the
> >>> comments from Phil/Paul, etc...  but... he was in CO for awhile one
> >>> year in the late 90's (whatever year that was that the WC was in South
> >>> America and a lot of pros came to CO for altitude training).  There
> >>> was a race at the Air Force Academy and they were all there.   The
> >>> crowd was all gaga over his presence, so of course I had to see for
> >>> myself.  Big??? nah, nothing to him.  Bordering on tiny, actually,
> >>> just a little taller than the others, but not big.  The typical 15
> >>> y.o. kid at track nationals is bigger than Indurain.
>
> >> The year the World RR was held in Colombia (1995), Mig was there and he
> >> appeared to be a giant compared to the Colombian climbers who all got
> >> blown away by----------the Euro dopers.  A non-juiced Mig would not have
> >> done what he did in Columbia. Olano, Mig, Pantani.  Watch the video again.
>
> > Giant?  What did I say... he is not big.  Tall, perhaps, but not big,
> > and certainly not so tall that he couldn't develop his strength/weight
> > ratio to appropriate levels w/out doping.  Your sister could take him
> > in a bar fight.
>
> Compared to the Colombians, Indurain looks like a giant (as does Olano).
>   Try not to be too literal.  You'll enjoy life more as a
> non-literalist.  Now go look at the video of 1995 to see what the big
> guys on dope did to the little Colombian climbers.

It's not a function of me being literal, I'm merely pointing out that
you shouldn't think of Indurain as being a giant, nor so large that he
could only have accomplished what he did by doping. He was not THAT
big.


== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 4:15 pm
From: thirty-six


On 19 July, 22:45, Uncle Dave <davidco...@t-online.de> wrote:
> On Jul 18, 4:43 pm, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > BRING BACK THE FUCKING DOPE !!!!    I about fell asleep during today's
> > stage.
>
> >  Let these mother fuckers use every possible drug and procedure known
> > to mankind.
>
> > I miss the days of Ricco, Ullrich, Pantani, an Armstrong that
> > mattered, and a linebacker like Indurain climbing like a mountain goat.
>
> Lungs.  He had BIG lungs.  Lungs as big as an elephant's ears by all
> accounts.  Or was it an elephant's arse, I don't remember.  That's how
> he was able to beat everybody out of sight.  Lungs.  Nothing to do
> with drugs, and the fact that he turned to shit overnight when a
> viable EPOS test came along well, that was just coincidence.  His
> lungs must have collapsed or something.  It was the lungs.  See, say
> it often enough and it becomes true.  Oh, and during the Indurain
> years, just as in the Armstrong years, the Tour was as boring as
> boring can be.  Indurain virtually destroyed the Tour as a spectacle
> and Armstrong picked up the boredom baton and ran with it, so stop
> complaining.  Lungs win you races.  Lungs, not legs.
>
> UD

Nicely put. Wonder where pigeon-chested Simpsom tucked his awaqy.


== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 4:21 pm
From: Anton Berlin


On Jul 19, 6:10 pm, Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 19, 10:35 am, "B. Lafferty" <b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 7/19/2010 9:26 AM, Scott wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 19, 6:58 am, "B. Lafferty"<b...@nowhere.com>  wrote:
> > >> On 7/19/2010 8:36 AM, Scott wrote:
>
> > >>> On Jul 18, 9:43 am, Anton Berlin<truth_88...@yahoo.com>    wrote:
> > >>>> BRING BACK THE FUCKING DOPE !!!!    I about fell asleep during today's
> > >>>> stage.
>
> > >>>>    Let these mother fuckers use every possible drug and procedure known
> > >>>> to mankind.
>
> > >>>> I miss the days of Ricco, Ullrich, Pantani, an Armstrong that
> > >>>> mattered, and a linebacker like Indurain climbing like a mountain goat.
>
> > >>> For the record, you can stop referring to Indurain in any way to imply
> > >>> he's a big man.  For years I thought he was big, too, based on all the
> > >>> comments from Phil/Paul, etc...  but... he was in CO for awhile one
> > >>> year in the late 90's (whatever year that was that the WC was in South
> > >>> America and a lot of pros came to CO for altitude training).  There
> > >>> was a race at the Air Force Academy and they were all there.   The
> > >>> crowd was all gaga over his presence, so of course I had to see for
> > >>> myself.  Big??? nah, nothing to him.  Bordering on tiny, actually,
> > >>> just a little taller than the others, but not big.  The typical 15
> > >>> y.o. kid at track nationals is bigger than Indurain.
>
> > >> The year the World RR was held in Colombia (1995), Mig was there and he
> > >> appeared to be a giant compared to the Colombian climbers who all got
> > >> blown away by----------the Euro dopers.  A non-juiced Mig would not have
> > >> done what he did in Columbia. Olano, Mig, Pantani.  Watch the video again.
>
> > > Giant?  What did I say... he is not big.  Tall, perhaps, but not big,
> > > and certainly not so tall that he couldn't develop his strength/weight
> > > ratio to appropriate levels w/out doping.  Your sister could take him
> > > in a bar fight.
>
> > Compared to the Colombians, Indurain looks like a giant (as does Olano).
> >   Try not to be too literal.  You'll enjoy life more as a
> > non-literalist.  Now go look at the video of 1995 to see what the big
> > guys on dope did to the little Colombian climbers.
>
> It's not a function of me being literal, I'm merely pointing out that
> you shouldn't think of Indurain as being a giant, nor so large that he
> could only have accomplished what he did by doping.  He was not THAT
> big.

6-2 175 according to this 5 lbs is a rounding error - take a big
dump - sweat for a few hours

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/a-giant-in-the-saddle-profile-miguel-indurain-1588209.html


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TOPIC: Anyone else sick of hearing these British announcers gush over riders
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 3:16 pm
From: Fred on a stick


On 7/19/2010 8:07 PM, Bob Martin wrote:
> in 322914 20100719 125712 Fred on a stick<anonymous.coward@address.invalid> wrote:
>> On 7/19/2010 11:58 AM, A. Dumas wrote:
>>> Uncle Dave wrote:
>>>> Do they still do that on
>>>> Eurosport in Europe - have several languages available? Probably
>>>> not.
>>>
>>> Sure: German, French, Dutch that I know of at least.
>>
>> Could be worse. French Eurosport used to have (don't know if they still
>> do -- I've been watching France 2/3) Richard Fucking Virenque.
>
> French ES had Richard Virenque and Jackie Durand yesterday.

I sort of like Jacky Durand but not enough to bear listening to Virenque.


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 4:24 pm
From: bar


On Jul 19, 6:16 pm, Fred on a stick <anonymous.cow...@address.invalid>
wrote:
> On 7/19/2010 8:07 PM, Bob Martin wrote:
>
> > in 322914 20100719 125712 Fred on a stick<anonymous.cow...@address.invalid>  wrote:
> >> On 7/19/2010 11:58 AM, A. Dumas wrote:
> >>> Uncle Dave wrote:
> >>>> Do they still do that on
> >>>> Eurosport in Europe - have several languages available? Probably
> >>>> not.
>
> >>> Sure: German, French, Dutch that I know of at least.
>
> >> Could be worse. French Eurosport used to have (don't know if they still
> >> do -- I've been watching France 2/3) Richard Fucking Virenque.
>
> > French ES had Richard Virenque and Jackie Durand yesterday.
>
> I sort of like Jacky Durand but not enough to bear listening to Virenque.

Lay off RFV bro. Honestly, I'd rather listen to a pack of monkeys
hammered on jack daniels than put up with the alzheimer's fueled
bullshit that phil & paul put out these days. I, for one, love the
eurosport mofos ... and thank god for them everyday.

-b-


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 4:31 pm
From: Anton Berlin


On Jul 19, 6:24 pm, bar <barbari...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 19, 6:16 pm, Fred on a stick <anonymous.cow...@address.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 7/19/2010 8:07 PM, Bob Martin wrote:
>
> > > in 322914 20100719 125712 Fred on a stick<anonymous.cow...@address.invalid>  wrote:
> > >> On 7/19/2010 11:58 AM, A. Dumas wrote:
> > >>> Uncle Dave wrote:
> > >>>> Do they still do that on
> > >>>> Eurosport in Europe - have several languages available? Probably
> > >>>> not.
>
> > >>> Sure: German, French, Dutch that I know of at least.
>
> > >> Could be worse. French Eurosport used to have (don't know if they still
> > >> do -- I've been watching France 2/3) Richard Fucking Virenque.
>
> > > French ES had Richard Virenque and Jackie Durand yesterday.
>
> > I sort of like Jacky Durand but not enough to bear listening to Virenque.
>
> Lay off RFV bro. Honestly, I'd rather listen to a pack of monkeys
> hammered on jack daniels than put up with the alzheimer's fueled
> bullshit that phil & paul put out these days. I, for one, love the
> eurosport mofos ... and thank god for them everyday.
>
> -b-

Without a doubt - Eurosport is way better than Versus. Even when it
is about Wiggins.

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TOPIC: What's the ruckus?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/7e07a0e3d28fd96c?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 3:20 pm
From: Frederick the Great


Schleck attacked.
Contador counter-attacked.
Schleck came unhooked.

Somebody punches you in the mouth,
then says, "Stop. Neutralize this.
I cut my knuckle on your broken tooth."

I never heard such a load of feel-good
codswallop since I quit the folk-singing business.

--
Old Fritz


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 4:34 pm
From: Anton Berlin


On Jul 19, 5:20 pm, Frederick the Great <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Schleck attacked.
> Contador counter-attacked.
> Schleck came unhooked.
>
> Somebody punches you in the mouth,
> then says, "Stop. Neutralize this.
> I cut my knuckle on your broken tooth."
>
> I never heard such a load of feel-good
> codswallop since I quit the folk-singing business.
>
> --
> Old Fritz

That's not what happened and everyone knows it. AS had a mechanical
then AC attacked. Then AC 2nd thought it and let Sanchez and Menchov
do his dirty work.

Even doping scum Armstrong didn't pull this kind of shit.


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 5:54 pm
From: thirty-six


On 20 July, 00:34, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 19, 5:20 pm, Frederick the Great <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > Schleck attacked.
> > Contador counter-attacked.
> > Schleck came unhooked.
>
> > Somebody punches you in the mouth,
> > then says, "Stop. Neutralize this.
> > I cut my knuckle on your broken tooth."
>
> > I never heard such a load of feel-good
> > codswallop since I quit the folk-singing business.
>
> > --
> > Old Fritz
>
> That's not what happened and everyone knows it.  AS had a mechanical
> then AC attacked.  Then AC 2nd thought it and let Sanchez and Menchov
> do his dirty work.
>
> Even doping scum Armstrong didn't pull this kind of shit.

I think THe Tour would prefer the Luxemburger to win than the funny
looking fellow from overseas. I mean Schleck has the looks of a tour
"champion" and idols of days gone by. He is made for the part.


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 6:00 pm
From: --D-y


On Jul 19, 6:34 pm, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 19, 5:20 pm, Frederick the Great <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > Schleck attacked.
> > Contador counter-attacked.
> > Schleck came unhooked.
>
> > Somebody punches you in the mouth,
> > then says, "Stop. Neutralize this.
> > I cut my knuckle on your broken tooth."
>
> > I never heard such a load of feel-good
> > codswallop since I quit the folk-singing business.
>
> > --
> > Old Fritz
>
> That's not what happened and everyone knows it.  AS had a mechanical
> then AC attacked.  Then AC 2nd thought it and let Sanchez and Menchov
> do his dirty work.
>
> Even doping scum Armstrong didn't pull this kind of shit.

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passage_du_Gois>

As I remember, he rode at the front due to the crash that was bound to
happen on the slippery racing surface.
--D-y


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 6:19 pm
From: TheCoz


On Jul 19, 6:34 pm, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 19, 5:20 pm, Frederick the Great <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > Schleck attacked.
> > Contador counter-attacked.
> > Schleck came unhooked.
>
> > Somebody punches you in the mouth,
> > then says, "Stop. Neutralize this.
> > I cut my knuckle on your broken tooth."
>
> > I never heard such a load of feel-good
> > codswallop since I quit the folk-singing business.
>
> > --
> > Old Fritz
>
> That's not what happened and everyone knows it.  AS had a mechanical
> then AC attacked.  Then AC 2nd thought it and let Sanchez and Menchov
> do his dirty work.
>
> Even doping scum Armstrong didn't pull this kind of shit.

LA also admits AC did the right thing. I truly believe AC saw what was
going on, his bike has brakes just like all the others. He could have
pulled up, and Sanchez and Manchov surly would have took respect and
done the same.
Coz

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TOPIC: Greg LeMond interviewed by Jeff Novitzky
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/99e7e8ea191e620b?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 3:21 pm
From: Anton Berlin


Some of the most intelligent people I know talk in this flighty
disconnected way. I've always wondered if their brains are processing
faster than they are able to verbalize.

Essentially, I think Lemond is right but I think he learned a few
tricks from Eddy. (we all did) wink wink

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TOPIC: Pretty bad when your ethics pale to Vino's. Hey AC ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/f173d92d8b163526?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 3:22 pm
From: Frederick the Great


In article
<c5eea7c1-c543-4d63-8eb6-0c6aef715a9c@i31g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Choppy Warburton <choppywarburton@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I'm talking about, hell Leo, I'm not embarrassed to say the word...
> ethics.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXQ940YSD2A

When you cannot trust a fixed fight,
what can you trust? Were back with anarchy.

--
Old Fritz


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 4:14 pm
From: Anton Berlin


On Jul 19, 5:22 pm, Frederick the Great <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> In article
> <c5eea7c1-c543-4d63-8eb6-0c6aef715...@i31g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
>  Choppy Warburton <choppywarbur...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm talking about, hell Leo, I'm not embarrassed to say the word...
> > ethics.
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXQ940YSD2A
>
> When you cannot trust a fixed fight,
> what can you trust? Were back with anarchy.
>
> --
> Old Fritz

There's a saying in Texas - if you can't trust a fixed election....

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TOPIC: Who's Choppy Warburton and why you should give a rats ass.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/603c9d883332032d?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 3:33 pm
From: Michael Press


In article
<e68bdd43-066e-4cca-8a8f-522ba8952105@d37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Choppy Warburton <choppywarburton@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Armstrong, Indurain, LeMond, Hinault, Merckx, Antequil, Coppi - every
> cyclist you've ever heard of,
>
> They all owe their success to me and my paving the way in the early
> days for the sport of cycling.
>
> "Choppy has been firmly identified as the instigator of drug-taking in
> the sport in the 19th century"
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choppy_Warburton
>
> Choppy lives my friends. Choppy lives.
>
> Only a sterling silver Gruber driven straight into my heart could kill
> me.

There was no instigator. Athletes always look
for a competitive advantage.

--
Michael Press

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TOPIC: Whatever
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/8be48d47a9b8ed23?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 5:50 pm
From: Superfly TNT


http://cozybeehive.blogspot.com/2010/07/cycling-shorts-18-july-2010.html


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TOPIC: Is this dude crazy?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/399982bce7c774ec?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 5:52 pm
From: Superfly TNT


http://tinyurl.com/2f95rsc

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TOPIC: Put this into your German translater bitches!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/9d20460197121a9c?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 5:53 pm
From: Superfly TNT


http://sueddeutsche.de/sport/radsport-schweigen-zahlen-es-ist-fast-wie-bei-der-mafia-1.976244


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 6:43 pm
From: "B. Lafferty"


On 7/19/2010 8:53 PM, Superfly TNT wrote:
> http://sueddeutsche.de/sport/radsport-schweigen-zahlen-es-ist-fast-wie-bei-der-mafia-1.976244
>
>
Thanks for the link.


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TOPIC: Lance and Greg
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/6bc23606505927cf?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 6:20 pm
From: Superfly TNT


http://tinyurl.com/23qdhgl


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