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[socialactionfoundationforequity:4612 Former Illinois governor guilty of lying

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:4612 Pak faces second death-wave: UN

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:4612 17 MNS workers held for rioting

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:4612 Civil Nuclear Liability report tabled in Parliament

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:4612 In memory of the peacekeepers

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:4612 Eight injured, one killed in Rajasthan

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:4612 PDP chief Maudany Bangalore police custody till Aug 26

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:4612 Par panel for supplier liability in nuclear mishaps

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:4612 36 arrested for Bareilly riots

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:4612 Tributes paid in Delhi to Kannada journalist Sridhar Achar

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:4612 Emancipated scavengers visit parliament

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:4612 Naxal top gun offers Centre 3-month truce

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:4612 Aircraft violates Air Force One airspace

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CMOS cantilever sensor systems: atomic force microscopy and gas sensing ...

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A review of upper respiratory tract inhalation pathology

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:4612 Department heads questioned over flood disaster management | iGoa

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:4612 River Princess case to be heard on Aug 24 | iGoa

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:4612 BJP seeks details on student representation in GU councils | iGoa

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:4612 MPT’s vision is to become preferred Port of Call: Agarwal | iGoa

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:4612 International Travel Mart to promote Goa tourism

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:4612 China to sign agreement with IAEA on nuclear safety |

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:4611 This is a biggy! Scathing Congress report slams Obama's 'covert, criminal activity' ... President charged with illegally using taxpayer money to manipulate public!! Finally!

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:4609 How Emergency Records Went Missing

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Published on: August 17, 2010 - 23:26
More in: Opinion
BY KULDIP NAYAR

IT is a coincidence but not insignificant that a plucky journalist
reported on the eve of August 15 that the Congress 'destroyed' all
papers relating to our second independence in January 1977.

If history could indeed be so easily rewritten, Hitler would have
blotted out from the world's memory all the atrocities and excesses he
and his Nazi Party had committed.

Imagine the first Independence led by Mahatma Gandhi to usher in on
August 15 a democratic polity and imagine Indira Gandhi, his follower,
destroying all democratic institutions by imposing the Emergency some
28 years later on June 25, 1975. Nonetheless, the nation celebrated
the second independence when she was routed at the polls in January
1977.

Secretive ways of Congress

Typical of Congress' furtive ways to cover up its misdeeds - for
example effacing the Bofors guns scam - the Home Ministry claims it
does not have the proclamation issued by the then President Fakhruddin
Ali Ahmed to declare the Emergency. Nor does it have any record of the
decisions taken on the arrests of thousands which were made on false
allegations, appointment of certain people to key posts and the manner
in which the statutory provisions governing detentions were breached.
This means that anyone aged 30 or younger will find it difficult to
obtain any hard information about what happened during those dark
days. Many of us remember the courage and leadership of Jayaprakash
Narayan, who defiantly challenged Indira Gandhi's misrule, and the
pain he suffered when he was subsequently imprisoned. M G Devasahayam,
who was then the district magistrate of Chandigarh where JP was
detained, drew the authorities' attention to JP's deteriorating
health. As Devasahayam writes in his book, the reply came from the
then defence minister, Bansi Lal, who said: "Susrey ko marney do" (Let
the swine die).

I am surprised that there was no furore in Parliament on the
disclosure made on the disappearance of papers on the Emergency.
Neither Mr Mulayam Singh nor Mr Lalu Prasad Yadav, not even the
Bharatiya Janata Party leaders who were part of the JP movement raised
the topic to put the government on the mat. The Home Ministry has
conveniently put the responsibility of the missing records on the
National Archives of India, saying that it is the "repository of non-
current records." In turn, the National Archives has responded that it
does not have any records because nothing was transferred to its safe-
keeping. This is surprising because the Shah Commission, which went
into the misdeeds committed during the Emergency, said on the last day
of its proceedings that it was depositing all the records with the
National Archives. The Shah Commission held 100 meetings, examined
48,000 papers and issued two interim reports.

Corrosion of democratic values

When the Janata government was still in power, I checked with the
Archives and was assured that the records of the Commission's verbatim
proceedings were intact. Apparently, the process of destroying
evidence started after Indira Gandhi returned to power in 1980. I
recall that the copies of Shah Commission report disappeared even from
the shop where official publications were available. The report by the
National Police Commission, which made praiseworthy recommendations to
free the force from the pressure of politicians, was shelved because
it had been constituted by the Janata government. Indira Gandhi walked
out of a ceremony for distributing medals to top policemen when R K
Dhawan, her
aide, told her that the medals were for their work exposing the
Emergency excesses.

By hiding the records of Indira's bad deeds the Congress cannot
rehabilitate her. The party has to face the fact of her authoritarian
governance. No doubt, she did great things in her life and her fervour
of nationalism held the country's head high, but she also had her
limitations. She was responsible for ousting morality from politics
and effaced the thin line that separated good from bad, moral from
immoral. We are still paying for the hangover of those days. With her
extra-constitutional authority exercised by her son Sanjay Gandhi, she
effectively smothered dissent and corroded India's democratic values.
High-handed and arbitrary actions were carried out with impunity. It's
a pity that the press caved in and went out of the way to conform to
the dictates of the government. Mr L K Advani was quite right when he
chided the press after the Emergency: "You were asked to bend but you
began to crawl."

Heeding Shah Commission's advice

The reason why the system which got derailed during Emergency has not
been able to get back to its moorings so far is the unaccountability
of bureaucrats and politicians. None found guilty by the Shah
Commission has been punished. In fact, those who indulged in excesses
were rewarded through out-of-turn promotions and appointments to key
posts. The rulers should heed the advice the Shah Commission gave: "It
would serve some useful purpose if the views of the government about
the functioning of civil servants were set out unequivocally. The
government's primary responsibility is to guarantee protection to
those officials who refused to deviate from the code of conduct which
should be accepted not only by the officials but also by the political
authorities."

I am not surprised that Chief Information Commissioner, Mr Wajahat
Habibullah has remained silent over the missing records. He is too
close and beholden to the dynasty to be considered independent when it
comes to releasing embarrassing information about it. Yet, he has done
laudatory work in expanding the contours of the Right To Information
Act. Regarding the proclamation to impose the Emergency, Indira Gandhi
did not even consult the cabinet before asking the President to sign
it. The cabinet was called the following morning to retrospectively
endorse what she did. It's understandable that the Home Ministry
cannot explain this without blaming Indira personally. She even wanted
to close down the courts, but did not do so because she was assured
that the judges would fall in line. This happened because there was
hardly any High Court, which gave an adverse judgment on what she had
done during the Emergency. The Supreme Court even went to the extent
of upholding 5-1, the imposition of the Emergency.

True, it is all history. But the Congress cannot rewrite it. The
failings of the government and its leaders should never be fudged
because what is at stake is the nation's conscience. Generations to
come should know how and where the country's institutions were
compromised and democracy derailed. It is only by laying out the truth
in black and white that future Emergencies and the associated
authoritarian rule can be avoided.

And I hope the dawn of our second independence is never overtaken by
the twilight made up of brutalities and excesses that shame us.

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:4609 Sex racket busted at Pernem, two rescued

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Published on: August 18, 2010 - 00:30
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MAPUSA: In a joint operation, Pernem police led by PI Mr Uttam Raut
Dessai and Anjuna PI Mr Manjunath Dessai and staff of SP North on
Tuesday evening busted a major prostitution racket that was going on
in major parts of the state and even in neighbouring Banda of
Maharashtra.

Three agents were arrested and two girls, aged between 20 and 25, who
were to be supplied to customers, were rescued. The arrested persons
were identified as Gopal Kumar, 49, from Kerala; Durgesh Bhelpuri, 31,
a native of Uttar Pradesh and Raj, 55, from Tamil Nadu but staying at
Calangute.

According to Mr Manjunath Dessai the accused Raj was active in the
coastal region including Calangute and was instrumental in bringing
customers. "His modus operandi was to attract customers and after
careful verification supply them with the girls at any pre-determined
site," he informed.

These sites included several prominent places in Goa including Malpem
in Pernem, Banda in Maharashtra and even in Mapusa. The police on
getting a tip off launched a massive operation and cracked the racket
at Malpem in Pernem.

Incidentally, in the absence of Mapusa PI Mr Rajeshkumar, who is away
on an official leave, Mr Manjunath Dessai is also holding charge of
Mapusa. Pernem PI Mr Uttam Raut is investigating the case.

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:4607 Hospital Supplies Market Outlook In India To 2016 - Disposable Hospital Supplies, Sterilization And Disinfectant Equipment, Syringes And Needles And Others - New Market Report Published

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New report provides detailed analysis of the Healthcare and Medical
market Published on August 18, 2010

by Press Office

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Hospital Supplies Market Outlook in India to 2016 - Disposable
Hospital Supplies, Sterilization and Disinfectant Equipment, Syringes
and Needles and Others

Hospital Supplies Market Outlook in India to 2016 - Disposable
Hospital Supplies, Sterilization and Disinfectant Equipment, Syringes
and Needles and Others provides key market data on the India Hospital
Supplies market. The report provides value (USD million), volume
(units) and average price (USD) data for each segment and sub-segment
within five market categories - Disposable Hospital Supplies, Patient
Examination Devices, Mobility Aids and Transportation Equipment,
Sterilization and Disinfectant Equipment and Syringes and Needles.
Segments include Procedure Kits and Trays, Gowns and Drapes,
Thermometer, Wheelchairs, Physical Sterilization, Specialized Syringes
and Others. The report also provides company shares and distribution
shares data for each of the aforementioned market categories. The
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- Annualized market revenues (USD million), volume (units) and average
price (USD) data for each of the segments and sub-segments within five
market categories. Data from 2002 to 2009, forecast forward for 7
years to 2016. Segments include Procedure Kits and Trays, Gowns and
Drapes, Thermometer, Wheelchairs, Physical Sterilization, Specialized
Syringes and Others.
- 2009 company shares and distribution shares data for each of the
five market categories.
- Global corporate-level profiles of key companies operating within
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[socialactionfoundationforequity:4607 CBSE to award best CCE school and mentor

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CBSE to award best CCE school and mentor
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Best CCE school

The Central Board of Secondary Education (CBSE) will soon be
instituting two awards for schools all over India so as to encourage
the implementation of the Continuous and Comprehensive Evaluation
(CCE) as well as the Mentoring and Monitoring System.

CBSE has instituted the awards for all 11,044 schools that are
affiliated to it across the country. The factors that will be taken
into consideration for awarding the schools would include awareness of
the evaluation system, its implementation, record keeping, teaching
aids used, advocacy programme for parents and training for teachers,
format of report card and lesson planning.

Chairman of CBSE Vineet Joshi informed that every CCE award would
include a certificate as well as a cash prize worth Rs.21,000. The
school principals who will be awarded the Mentor prize will be given a
certificate as well as a cash prize worth Rs.10,000.

"The winners for both awards will be decided on the basis of seven
criteria for CCE schools and four for the Mentor award that we will be
setting up soon," said Joshi.

Read more: http://news.icbse.com/cbse-award-cce-school-mentor-558#ixzz0wyYacpuG

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:4608 CBSE to award best CCE school and mentor

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CBSE to award best CCE school and mentor
http://news.icbse.com/cbse-award-cce-school-mentor-558

Best CCE school

The Central Board of Secondary Education (CBSE) will soon be
instituting two awards for schools all over India so as to encourage
the implementation of the Continuous and Comprehensive Evaluation
(CCE) as well as the Mentoring and Monitoring System.

CBSE has instituted the awards for all 11,044 schools that are
affiliated to it across the country. The factors that will be taken
into consideration for awarding the schools would include awareness of
the evaluation system, its implementation, record keeping, teaching
aids used, advocacy programme for parents and training for teachers,
format of report card and lesson planning.

Chairman of CBSE Vineet Joshi informed that every CCE award would
include a certificate as well as a cash prize worth Rs.21,000. The
school principals who will be awarded the Mentor prize will be given a
certificate as well as a cash prize worth Rs.10,000.

"The winners for both awards will be decided on the basis of seven
criteria for CCE schools and four for the Mentor award that we will be
setting up soon," said Joshi.

Read more: http://news.icbse.com/cbse-award-cce-school-mentor-558#ixzz0wyYacpuG

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:4605 Sonia Gandhi

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From: Jai Krishna, Greenpeace India <Greenpeace.india@mailing.greenpeace.org>
Subject: Sonia Gandhi
To: avnishjolly@yahoo.com
Date: Wednesday, 18 August, 2010, 13:16

Click to sign the open letter to Sonia Gandhi
Dear

Bt Brinjal could be back. The Biotechnology Regulatory Authority of India (BRAI) bill has been approved by the Cabinet and will be tabled in the Parliament soon.

The BRAI bill will clear genetically modified (GM) crops overriding the concerns raised by the general public and state governments against GM food. The Cabinet cleared this bill in a hurried and hushed fashion, denying people a chance to voice their opinion.

But there is a way to change this bill. Sonia Gandhi, Chairperson of the National Advisory Council (NAC) can force the Government to re-draft the bill with suggestions from the public. It has been done before and can happen again if the opposition to the bill in its current form is known.

Can you sign the open letter to Sonia Gandhi asking the NAC to make the Government consult people before tabling the bill?

http://greenpeace.in/safefood/change-brai-bill-stop-gm-food-india

The NAC had earlier made the Government re-draft the Communal Violence bill and the National Food Security bill. A large number of people asking for change will help convince them about the need for one in this case as well.

If passed, this bill will also allow BRAI to escape the purview of Right to Information. The public will be unable to stop genetic contamination of rice or 56 other crops whose GM versions are in the pipeline.

Time is short. The bill can be tabled in the Parliament any day. Sign the open letter now to save your food from contamination:

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Thanks a billion!

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Medarticles please help with article

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Dear Sir
Do you have access to the full article. Can you please mail me the
full article if possible...
Sincerely
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J Surg Oncol. 2010 May 1;101(6):527-33.

Methods of esophagogastric anastomoses following esophagectomy for
cancer: A systematic review.

Kim RH, Takabe K.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jso.21510/abstract;jsessionid=C9DE5BAC3AB103A535E80CE1E2B60011.d03t01

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:4604 MCI mulls e-Classes to meet faculty shortage

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An All India Medical College Tele-Medicine Network is under the
consideration of the Health Ministry for the purpose
Published on 08/18/2010

New Delhi: As the faculty crunch in medical colleges becomes a major
issue of concern, the Medical Council of India (MCI) is now mulling
conducting tele-classes for students.

An All India Medical College Tele-Medicine Network is under the
consideration of the Health Ministry, a member of the MCI's Board of
Governors, Sita Naik, said.

"We are seriously considering using distant education through tele-
medicine for things like classroom lectures," she said, reports IANS.

"We have a shortage of faculty, so if we can share it through web
based programmes, it will solve the problem to some extent," she
said.

Looking towards modernising medical education and training facilities,
the MCI is also considering setting up more regional training centres
for training medical teachers.

"We are looking ahead for setting up at least five more centres,
focusing specially on the regions which lack them," Naik said.

Increasing the number of seats as well as courses at the post-graduate
level is another major issue being looked into by the council.

"Presently we have a rocket shape structure — more undergraduate
students and lesser post-graduates. We want it to be cylindrical,"
Board of Governors' Head SK Sarin said.

To meet the aim, the council has proposed easing of norms and
increasing the number of post graduate seats as well as introducing
new post-graduate courses.

"We have already received 1,300 applications from medical colleges for
starting the new courses proposed by the council," Board Member RN
Salhan said.

The council is also looking ahead to setting up special skill labs
across the country to give targeted skill training to the students.

"In most developed countries, learning on live patients is considered
unethical. There are dummies available in international market on
which the training can be done. We are looking ahead to start skill
labs across the country which will train students without using live
patients," Naik added.

Meanwhile, the MCI said that the dates for receiving applications for
registering new medical colleges have been extended to September 30,
from the earlier deadline of August 30.

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:4604 Migrant Resource Centre set up in Haryana

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Migrant Resource Centre set up in Haryana
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It will disseminate information about legal migration to Europe and
the risks involved in illegal migration
Published on 08/18/2010 -

Chandigarh: The Haryana government has set up a Migrant Resource
Centre (MRC) in Panchkula near here to disseminate information about
legal migration to Europe and the risks involved in illegal
migration.

This is the first MRC in the north India and third in the country
after Kerala and Andhra Pradesh. It has been set up in collaboration
with the ministry of Overseas Indian Affairs and International
Organisation for Migration (IOM).

Labour Minister Mahender Partap Singh said here on Wednesday the MRC
at the Overseas Placement Bureau will educate prospective migrants
about the various opportunities available in the European Union
countries and about the requirements and conditions that they need to
fulfill.

"There is a telephonic helpline and anyone can walk in for counseling
at the centre. People can contact from any place in India at the toll
free number 18001802038," Singh said, reports IANS.

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Today's topics:

* Dungy on Rex Ryan and his mouth... - 9 messages, 7 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/6aaeef8ffe3e54f3?hl=en
* Click the Russian Grial Allbamm at 18to25 age Russian Giral charting and
citizenship Jobs details - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/c46de6abb4241d0c?hl=en
* Soooo, after the first preseason game, whatchya think? - 13 messages, 4
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/e7c0a577d9726426?hl=en
* 18 game season - guaranteed contracts - 2 messages, 2 authors
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TOPIC: Dungy on Rex Ryan and his mouth...
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== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 17 2010 11:59 pm
From: Ritchie


On Aug 17, 11:50 pm, JetsLife <JetsL...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Aug 17, 7:52 pm, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:

> Dungy is a Christian fundamentalist nut-job. That's all you need to
> know.
>
> This said I have nothing against Christianity. I love all religions
> provided they don't go overboard.- Hide quoted text -


Very well said and I agree!


== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 5:44 am
From: Deadmeat


On 8/17/2010 7:52 PM, Michael wrote:
> http://www.myfoxny.com/dpps/sports/ex-colts-boss-tony-dungy-says-he-would-not-hire-rex-ryan-dpgonc-20100816-fc_9205299
>
> (The New York Post) - "Former Indianapolis Colts head coach Tony Dungy
> said Monday he would not consider hiring New York Jets head coach Rex
> Ryan due to the latter's penchant for foul language, the New York Post
> reported.
>
> "I would not. I personally don't want my players to be around that. I
> don't want to be around that," Dungy said on "The Dan Patrick Show."
>
> "It's hard for me to be around that, and if I were in charge, no, I
> wouldn't hire someone like that."
>
> "Now, I've been around 'F' bombs, so it's not like it's new. But I
> just don't think that has to be part of your every-minute, everyday
> vocabulary to get your points across," Dungy said."
>
> ************************************************************************************************************************************
> OK... I don't get it. Dungy will lobby for a sadistic felon that
> participated in profound animal abuse and a whole host of additional
> felonies, but he cant abide Rex due to his use of profanity that was
> seen on a show that is billed for its candor ???
>
> Are you listening Tony ???
>
> FUCK YOU !!!
>
> Hypocrite POS


I heard this story, but I'm not following it closely. Did Dungy go to
the commissioner to try and get him to do something?


== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 6:47 am
From: John C TX


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On Aug 17, 11:15 pm, "papa.carl44" <papadotc...@nospamverizon.net>
wrote:
> "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> news:ae4fdf07-5615-467a-b3a3-b3c3cf93bec6@k13g2000vbq.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> >http://www.myfoxny.com/dpps/sports/ex-colts-boss-tony-dungy-says-he-w...
>
> > (The New York Post) - "Former Indianapolis Colts head coach Tony Dungy
> > said Monday he would not consider hiring New York Jets head coach Rex
> > Ryan due to the latter's penchant for foul language, the New York Post
> > reported.
>
> > "I would not. I personally don't want my players to be around that. I
> > don't want to be around that," Dungy said on "The Dan Patrick Show."
>
> > "It's hard for me to be around that, and if I were in charge, no, I
> > wouldn't hire someone like that."
>
> > "Now, I've been around 'F' bombs, so it's not like it's new. But I
> > just don't think that has to be part of your every-minute, everyday
> > vocabulary to get your points across," Dungy said."
>
> > ************************************************************************************************************************************
> > OK... I don't get it.  Dungy will lobby for a sadistic felon that
> > participated in profound animal abuse and a whole host of additional
> > felonies, but he cant abide Rex due to his use of profanity that was
> > seen on a show that is billed for its candor ???
>
> > Are you listening Tony ???
>
> > FUCK YOU !!!
>
> > Hypocrite POS
>
> This doesn't surprise me at all.  He views the "player" as the man-child he
> needs to save, whereas he sees the fat white coach as evil and someone he
> needs to be far away from.  It fits perfectly with his personality I think.
> I was around several "Fellowship of Christian Athletes" type guys when I
> played and coached.  I just could never see any connection between football
> and Jesus.  I was always quite sure "He" wasn't interested at all in what we
> were doing.  I coached at a Catholic school too...and felt even moreso.
> Ending a Hail Mary with "Our Lady Queen of Victory, Pray for Us"  never
> grabbed me as being right.  I didn't swear a lot when I coached, don't think
> I talked much at all when I played.  I was not the hollering type of player
> at all.  It always worked better for me when I kept it inside and let it out
> by executing.  Coaching became fun when I gave up all the emotional crap and
> just started teaching and focusing on strategy.  I was around guys who
> constantly used F bombs...never bothered me.  Now, old and retired I find
> myself having a hard time not saying it...every time I look at TV, sports or
> news...some idiot brings it out in me :-)

Papa, you know my background & I am with you 100%. If God is paying
attention to football it explains the state of the world.

I have no problem with kids screaming after a prayer, and maybe it
plants a seed for future spiritual development, but it has NOTHING to
do with spirituality. It has everything to do with get your F***ing
head in the game.

:)


== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 6:53 am
From: "papa.carl44"

"John C TX" <johnctxjets@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5b63ac49-c65f-4614-9958-eaf5fe2b062e@p7g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
X-No-Archive: Yes
On Aug 17, 11:15 pm, "papa.carl44" <papadotc...@nospamverizon.net>
wrote:
> "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> news:ae4fdf07-5615-467a-b3a3-b3c3cf93bec6@k13g2000vbq.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> >http://www.myfoxny.com/dpps/sports/ex-colts-boss-tony-dungy-says-he-w...
>
> > (The New York Post) - "Former Indianapolis Colts head coach Tony Dungy
> > said Monday he would not consider hiring New York Jets head coach Rex
> > Ryan due to the latter's penchant for foul language, the New York Post
> > reported.
>
> > "I would not. I personally don't want my players to be around that. I
> > don't want to be around that," Dungy said on "The Dan Patrick Show."
>
> > "It's hard for me to be around that, and if I were in charge, no, I
> > wouldn't hire someone like that."
>
> > "Now, I've been around 'F' bombs, so it's not like it's new. But I
> > just don't think that has to be part of your every-minute, everyday
> > vocabulary to get your points across," Dungy said."
>
> > ************************************************************************************************************************************
> > OK... I don't get it. Dungy will lobby for a sadistic felon that
> > participated in profound animal abuse and a whole host of additional
> > felonies, but he cant abide Rex due to his use of profanity that was
> > seen on a show that is billed for its candor ???
>
> > Are you listening Tony ???
>
> > FUCK YOU !!!
>
> > Hypocrite POS
>
> This doesn't surprise me at all. He views the "player" as the man-child he
> needs to save, whereas he sees the fat white coach as evil and someone he
> needs to be far away from. It fits perfectly with his personality I think.
> I was around several "Fellowship of Christian Athletes" type guys when I
> played and coached. I just could never see any connection between football
> and Jesus. I was always quite sure "He" wasn't interested at all in what
> we
> were doing. I coached at a Catholic school too...and felt even moreso.
> Ending a Hail Mary with "Our Lady Queen of Victory, Pray for Us" never
> grabbed me as being right. I didn't swear a lot when I coached, don't
> think
> I talked much at all when I played. I was not the hollering type of player
> at all. It always worked better for me when I kept it inside and let it
> out
> by executing. Coaching became fun when I gave up all the emotional crap
> and
> just started teaching and focusing on strategy. I was around guys who
> constantly used F bombs...never bothered me. Now, old and retired I find
> myself having a hard time not saying it...every time I look at TV, sports
> or
> news...some idiot brings it out in me :-)

Papa, you know my background & I am with you 100%. If God is paying
attention to football it explains the state of the world.

I have no problem with kids screaming after a prayer, and maybe it
plants a seed for future spiritual development, but it has NOTHING to
do with spirituality. It has everything to do with get your F***ing
head in the game.

:)

It just bothers me that someone actually believes "God" is on their side in
a freakin football game. Sal Palantonio wrote a good book about this type
stuff, "Football In America"....it explains a lot of the ways football was
promoted and how it adopted techniques desirable to reach desired
ends...like playing with pain, God is always on our side, sacrifice for the
team, watch what you say...some of it's ok even good, but some of the stuff
promoted is off base. You are right......the Higher Power expects us to do
some things on our own, like get our F'ing heads in the F'ing game. :-)


== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 7:05 am
From: Michael


On Aug 18, 9:47 am, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> X-No-Archive: Yes
> On Aug 17, 11:15 pm, "papa.carl44" <papadotc...@nospamverizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:ae4fdf07-5615-467a-b3a3-b3c3cf93bec6@k13g2000vbq.googlegroups.com...
>
> > >http://www.myfoxny.com/dpps/sports/ex-colts-boss-tony-dungy-says-he-w...
>
> > > (The New York Post) - "Former Indianapolis Colts head coach Tony Dungy
> > > said Monday he would not consider hiring New York Jets head coach Rex
> > > Ryan due to the latter's penchant for foul language, the New York Post
> > > reported.
>
> > > "I would not. I personally don't want my players to be around that. I
> > > don't want to be around that," Dungy said on "The Dan Patrick Show."
>
> > > "It's hard for me to be around that, and if I were in charge, no, I
> > > wouldn't hire someone like that."
>
> > > "Now, I've been around 'F' bombs, so it's not like it's new. But I
> > > just don't think that has to be part of your every-minute, everyday
> > > vocabulary to get your points across," Dungy said."
>
> > > ***************************************************************************­*********************************************************
> > > OK... I don't get it.  Dungy will lobby for a sadistic felon that
> > > participated in profound animal abuse and a whole host of additional
> > > felonies, but he cant abide Rex due to his use of profanity that was
> > > seen on a show that is billed for its candor ???
>
> > > Are you listening Tony ???
>
> > > FUCK YOU !!!
>
> > > Hypocrite POS
>
> > This doesn't surprise me at all.  He views the "player" as the man-child he
> > needs to save, whereas he sees the fat white coach as evil and someone he
> > needs to be far away from.  It fits perfectly with his personality I think.
> > I was around several "Fellowship of Christian Athletes" type guys when I
> > played and coached.  I just could never see any connection between football
> > and Jesus.  I was always quite sure "He" wasn't interested at all in what we
> > were doing.  I coached at a Catholic school too...and felt even moreso.
> > Ending a Hail Mary with "Our Lady Queen of Victory, Pray for Us"  never
> > grabbed me as being right.  I didn't swear a lot when I coached, don't think
> > I talked much at all when I played.  I was not the hollering type of player
> > at all.  It always worked better for me when I kept it inside and let it out
> > by executing.  Coaching became fun when I gave up all the emotional crap and
> > just started teaching and focusing on strategy.  I was around guys who
> > constantly used F bombs...never bothered me.  Now, old and retired I find
> > myself having a hard time not saying it...every time I look at TV, sports or
> > news...some idiot brings it out in me :-)
>
> Papa, you know my background & I am with you 100%.  If God is paying
> attention to football it explains the state of the world.

Just playing a bit of the devil's advocate... Say for instance, a
farmer prays for good weather so he can raise a crop and feed his
family. Most people could relate to that and would consider that god
plays a part in that. If a player who has been disadvantaged all his
life prays that he has a good game, is that not more than just
football ??? Since his performance in the game means the difference
for him between possible big money (for him and his family) and
possibly being thrown to the curb... It is more than just a game
right ??? Just an odd thought.


== 6 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 7:24 am
From: Harlan Lachman


In article
<5b63ac49-c65f-4614-9958-eaf5fe2b062e@p7g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
John C TX <johnctxjets@gmail.com> wrote:

> X-No-Archive: Yes
> On Aug 17, 11:15 pm, "papa.carl44" <papadotc...@nospamverizon.net>
> wrote:
> > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >
> > news:ae4fdf07-5615-467a-b3a3-b3c3cf93bec6@k13g2000vbq.googlegroups.com...
> >
> >
> >
> > >http://www.myfoxny.com/dpps/sports/ex-colts-boss-tony-dungy-says-he-w...
> >
> > > (The New York Post) - "Former Indianapolis Colts head coach Tony Dungy
> > > said Monday he would not consider hiring New York Jets head coach Rex
> > > Ryan due to the latter's penchant for foul language, the New York Post
> > > reported.
> >
> > > "I would not. I personally don't want my players to be around that. I
> > > don't want to be around that," Dungy said on "The Dan Patrick Show."
> >
> > > "It's hard for me to be around that, and if I were in charge, no, I
> > > wouldn't hire someone like that."
> >
> > > "Now, I've been around 'F' bombs, so it's not like it's new. But I
> > > just don't think that has to be part of your every-minute, everyday
> > > vocabulary to get your points across," Dungy said."
> >
> > > **************************************************************************
> > > **********************************************************
> > > OK... I don't get it.  Dungy will lobby for a sadistic felon that
> > > participated in profound animal abuse and a whole host of additional
> > > felonies, but he cant abide Rex due to his use of profanity that was
> > > seen on a show that is billed for its candor ???
> >
> > > Are you listening Tony ???
> >
> > > FUCK YOU !!!
> >
> > > Hypocrite POS
> >
> > This doesn't surprise me at all.  He views the "player" as the man-child he
> > needs to save, whereas he sees the fat white coach as evil and someone he
> > needs to be far away from.  It fits perfectly with his personality I think.
> > I was around several "Fellowship of Christian Athletes" type guys when I
> > played and coached.  I just could never see any connection between football
> > and Jesus.  I was always quite sure "He" wasn't interested at all in what
> > we
> > were doing.  I coached at a Catholic school too...and felt even moreso.
> > Ending a Hail Mary with "Our Lady Queen of Victory, Pray for Us"  never
> > grabbed me as being right.  I didn't swear a lot when I coached, don't
> > think
> > I talked much at all when I played.  I was not the hollering type of player
> > at all.  It always worked better for me when I kept it inside and let it
> > out
> > by executing.  Coaching became fun when I gave up all the emotional crap
> > and
> > just started teaching and focusing on strategy.  I was around guys who
> > constantly used F bombs...never bothered me.  Now, old and retired I find
> > myself having a hard time not saying it...every time I look at TV, sports
> > or
> > news...some idiot brings it out in me :-)
>
> Papa, you know my background & I am with you 100%. If God is paying
> attention to football it explains the state of the world.
>
> I have no problem with kids screaming after a prayer, and maybe it
> plants a seed for future spiritual development, but it has NOTHING to
> do with spirituality. It has everything to do with get your F***ing
> head in the game.
>
> :)

John, don't you get it. The winners were all part of God's plan and the
losers were damned by God for not being humble, prayerful, and/or
religious enough.

H


== 7 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 7:29 am
From: Harlan Lachman


In article
<76a31b6a-047c-47fb-a175-d08f463df151@p7g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
Ritchie <ritchie1965@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Aug 17, 7:52 pm, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > http://www.myfoxny.com/dpps/sports/ex-colts-boss-tony-dungy-says-he-w...
> >
> > (The New York Post) - "Former Indianapolis Colts head coach Tony Dungy
> > said Monday he would not consider hiring New York Jets head coach Rex
> > Ryan due to the latter's penchant for foul language, the New York Post
> > reported.
> >
> > "I would not. I personally don't want my players to be around that. I
> > don't want to be around that," Dungy said on "The Dan Patrick Show."
> >
> > "It's hard for me to be around that, and if I were in charge, no, I
> > wouldn't hire someone like that."
> >
> > "Now, I've been around 'F' bombs, so it's not like it's new. But I
> > just don't think that has to be part of your every-minute, everyday
> > vocabulary to get your points across," Dungy said."
> >
> > ***************************************************************************­
> > *********************************************************
> > OK... I don't get it.  Dungy will lobby for a sadistic felon that
> > participated in profound animal abuse and a whole host of additional
> > felonies, but he cant abide Rex due to his use of profanity that was
> > seen on a show that is billed for its candor ???
> >
> > Are you listening Tony ???
> >
> > FUCK YOU !!!
> >
> > Hypocrite POS
>
> Dungy is a moron and the Colts won a SB despite him, not because of
> him.

And only one.

I used to have a system for evaluating college basketball coaches: how
many NBA all stars did they have on their teams and how many
championships did those teams win.

By my standard, Dean Smith was garbage. Rollie M was a genius (not a
one). Calipari would not even get an honorable mention.

It is easier to take the most talented players and win than just a bunch
of guys. While Wooden got a pass with the best players (no one looking
at the payoffs used to get them), at least he won with them.

Dungy had the best Qb of all time. Freeney and Sanders are not slouches
either. But he had little to show for it except usually being a good
loser.

harlan


== 8 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 8:16 am
From: "Ray O'Hara"

"Harlan Lachman" <harlan@eeivt.com> wrote in message
news:harlan-EEFB61.10291518082010@news60.forteinc.com...
> In article
> <76a31b6a-047c-47fb-a175-d08f463df151@p7g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
> Ritchie <ritchie1965@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Aug 17, 7:52 pm, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> > http://www.myfoxny.com/dpps/sports/ex-colts-boss-tony-dungy-says-he-w...
>> >
>> > (The New York Post) - "Former Indianapolis Colts head coach Tony Dungy
>> > said Monday he would not consider hiring New York Jets head coach Rex
>> > Ryan due to the latter's penchant for foul language, the New York Post
>> > reported.
>> >
>> > "I would not. I personally don't want my players to be around that. I
>> > don't want to be around that," Dungy said on "The Dan Patrick Show."
>> >
>> > "It's hard for me to be around that, and if I were in charge, no, I
>> > wouldn't hire someone like that."
>> >
>> > "Now, I've been around 'F' bombs, so it's not like it's new. But I
>> > just don't think that has to be part of your every-minute, everyday
>> > vocabulary to get your points across," Dungy said."
>> >
>> > ***************************************************************************­
>> > *********************************************************
>> > OK... I don't get it. Dungy will lobby for a sadistic felon that
>> > participated in profound animal abuse and a whole host of additional
>> > felonies, but he cant abide Rex due to his use of profanity that was
>> > seen on a show that is billed for its candor ???
>> >
>> > Are you listening Tony ???
>> >
>> > FUCK YOU !!!
>> >
>> > Hypocrite POS
>>
>> Dungy is a moron and the Colts won a SB despite him, not because of
>> him.
>
> And only one.
>
> I used to have a system for evaluating college basketball coaches: how
> many NBA all stars did they have on their teams and how many
> championships did those teams win.
>
> By my standard, Dean Smith was garbage. Rollie M was a genius (not a
> one). Calipari would not even get an honorable mention.
>
> It is easier to take the most talented players and win than just a bunch
> of guys. While Wooden got a pass with the best players (no one looking
> at the payoffs used to get them), at least he won with them.
>
> Dungy had the best Qb of all time. Freeney and Sanders are not slouches
> either. But he had little to show for it except usually being a good
> loser.
>
> harlan


a good coach would have won multiple SBs with that team.


== 9 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 8:26 am
From: "Ray O'Hara"

"Harlan Lachman" <harlan@eeivt.com> wrote in message
news:harlan-85C3E1.10240618082010@news60.forteinc.com...
> In article
> <5b63ac49-c65f-4614-9958-eaf5fe2b062e@p7g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
> John C TX <johnctxjets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> X-No-Archive: Yes
>> On Aug 17, 11:15 pm, "papa.carl44" <papadotc...@nospamverizon.net>
>> wrote:
>> > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> >
>> > news:ae4fdf07-5615-467a-b3a3-b3c3cf93bec6@k13g2000vbq.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > >http://www.myfoxny.com/dpps/sports/ex-colts-boss-tony-dungy-says-he-w...
>> >
>> > > (The New York Post) - "Former Indianapolis Colts head coach Tony
>> > > Dungy
>> > > said Monday he would not consider hiring New York Jets head coach Rex
>> > > Ryan due to the latter's penchant for foul language, the New York
>> > > Post
>> > > reported.
>> >
>> > > "I would not. I personally don't want my players to be around that. I
>> > > don't want to be around that," Dungy said on "The Dan Patrick Show."
>> >
>> > > "It's hard for me to be around that, and if I were in charge, no, I
>> > > wouldn't hire someone like that."
>> >
>> > > "Now, I've been around 'F' bombs, so it's not like it's new. But I
>> > > just don't think that has to be part of your every-minute, everyday
>> > > vocabulary to get your points across," Dungy said."
>> >
>> > > **************************************************************************
>> > > **********************************************************
>> > > OK... I don't get it. Dungy will lobby for a sadistic felon that
>> > > participated in profound animal abuse and a whole host of additional
>> > > felonies, but he cant abide Rex due to his use of profanity that was
>> > > seen on a show that is billed for its candor ???
>> >
>> > > Are you listening Tony ???
>> >
>> > > FUCK YOU !!!
>> >
>> > > Hypocrite POS
>> >
>> > This doesn't surprise me at all. He views the "player" as the man-child
>> > he
>> > needs to save, whereas he sees the fat white coach as evil and someone
>> > he
>> > needs to be far away from. It fits perfectly with his personality I
>> > think.
>> > I was around several "Fellowship of Christian Athletes" type guys when
>> > I
>> > played and coached. I just could never see any connection between
>> > football
>> > and Jesus. I was always quite sure "He" wasn't interested at all in
>> > what
>> > we
>> > were doing. I coached at a Catholic school too...and felt even moreso.
>> > Ending a Hail Mary with "Our Lady Queen of Victory, Pray for Us" never
>> > grabbed me as being right. I didn't swear a lot when I coached, don't
>> > think
>> > I talked much at all when I played. I was not the hollering type of
>> > player
>> > at all. It always worked better for me when I kept it inside and let it
>> > out
>> > by executing. Coaching became fun when I gave up all the emotional crap
>> > and
>> > just started teaching and focusing on strategy. I was around guys who
>> > constantly used F bombs...never bothered me. Now, old and retired I
>> > find
>> > myself having a hard time not saying it...every time I look at TV,
>> > sports
>> > or
>> > news...some idiot brings it out in me :-)
>>
>> Papa, you know my background & I am with you 100%. If God is paying
>> attention to football it explains the state of the world.
>>
>> I have no problem with kids screaming after a prayer, and maybe it
>> plants a seed for future spiritual development, but it has NOTHING to
>> do with spirituality. It has everything to do with get your F***ing
>> head in the game.
>>
>> :)
>
> John, don't you get it. The winners were all part of God's plan and the
> losers were damned by God for not being humble, prayerful, and/or
> religious enough.
>
> H

the Jerry Faust theory of victory.

"Jesus doesn't give a fuck about Hoosier basketball"
Bobby Knight addressing players praying at halftime.

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== 1 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 6:26 am
From: John C TX


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> How did the new FB look?

They kept talking about him. We use him for blocking. I don't know
where you keep him & Richardson.

== 2 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 6:34 am
From: John C TX


X-No-Archive: Yes
On Aug 17, 2:35 pm, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Aug 17, 3:11 pm, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > X-No-Archive: Yes
>
> > > 5. ducasse and slauson BOTH looked fantastic in general.  ducasse has
> > > massive power , but still looks raw with his footwork. his feet are
> > > fast, but confused.  he also seems that he does not rotate much in the
> > > hips to push blockers asside.  even hunter did some good work.  i'm
> > > beginning to give callahan more and more credit for the play of the
> > > lets offensive line.  despite all the changes in who plays where
> > > over , the entire line played well as a unit.
>
> > Michael, stop defending your book when it comes to getting rid of
> > Faneca. For whatever his flaws on pass blocking, today he is better
> > than both our LG's today. I jut watched the Jets 1st scoring drive
> > again. Here is what I saw.
>
> > Slauson is not fast enough to get outside on some of the screens we
> > run which is important when one of your backs likes to catch the
> > ball.  He didn't get "blown up" like Faneca, a DT ran around him on a
> > pass play. At least Faneca, when beaten, slowed the rusher down. He
> > did OK on run blocking but is not the road grader you talked about. I
> > also remember a play later in the 1st or 2nd Q when he tried to pull &
> > looked like drunk leaving a saloon. Granted he played without Mangold
> > but Turner may be the better choice there. I hop eyou are right nut
> > you didn't see it in yesterday's game.
>
> John... I was at the game yesteday and did a lot of watching as far as
> the line goes.  The only guy I saw that got beat badly was Woody by
> the Giants new edge guy.  I also saw Slauson pull out to the right
> several times.  He did not look slow to me.  On a few of the Green
> carries, Slauson mauled the DT.  I have to go back and watch the game
> to pick out the things you saw.

Watch the first drive.

>
> > As for Callahan, I think he is a step up from what we had.
> > I hate that we got rid of Feeley, Faneca & Washington. It ruined our
> > offs season and could bite us in the ass.
>
> I can understand the Washington deal, but I dont get the Feeley
> thing.  That IMHO was their biggest blunder.  Folk looks shakey and it
> wasnt like Feeley was costing them much.   As far as defending my book
> on Faneca... I dont have to.  I've got the Cards fans to do it for me
> now.  He's getting smoked in drills by Docket and he'll be getting
> smoked in games as well.  I would not be surprised if a QB there gets
> injured  because of it.  He's one of the best guards ever to play the
> game, but now he's a liability.  Not to mention one more time... How
> much the Jets paid to bring in a guy that was washed  up.

Feeley = Jason Taylor

They had to have someone get taken through FA to take Taylor.

As for Cardinal fans, wow, guys who read about a player getting beat
in a one on one drill & deciding Faneca is done. The last time I
watched a game I saw11 guys on the field. Faneca would still be our
best option at LG this year and if Slaussson or Ducasse work out but
for $1MM in cash you don't take that risk. as for getting QB's hurt
watch the 1st TD drive.

== 3 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 6:38 am
From: John C TX


On Aug 17, 3:13 pm, Johnny Morongo
<j.mireh...@harmonicconcordance.com> wrote:
> On Aug 17, 12:18 pm, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 17, 10:45 am, Johnny Morongo
>
> > <j.mireh...@harmonicconcordance.com> wrote:
> > > On Aug 17, 7:42 am, Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > My take:
>
> > > > 1. Sanchez:  The awful INT on his first pass was a terrible decision
> > > > and throw by him.  He didn't see the coverage and threw it right into
> > > > the thick of it.  Someone above said it was a fluke!  I disagree.  It
> > > > resembled a lot of his INTs from last season.  No fluke.  As the
> > > > announcers pointed out, Sanchez seems to have field vision problems to
> > > > his left.  The vast majority of his INTs last season were to the
> > > > left.  This needs to be worked on consistently and immediately.  After
> > > > the INT, Sanchez recovered very nicely and performed quite well in the
> > > > face of a pretty intense pass rush all throughout the 1st half.  He
> > > > made smart decisions, was much better at checking down and I was
> > > > impressed.  He seems to be picking up right where he left off.  No
> > > > doubt, there will be ups and downs through 2010... 2 steps forward...
> > > > one step back sort of thing.  But as long as the movement is positive
> > > > overall, things will be fine.  Sanchez was pretty good overall last
> > > > night and the Giants 1st string defense was playing well.  I am
> > > > cautiously optimistic.  Let's not forget how young he is and how
> > > > little college experience he had.
>
> > > > 2. Running game:  Even with Mangold on the sidelines, I was happy with
> > > > the performance of the line in blocking.  Turner did a good job and
> > > > the holding call on him on the LT TD was questionable.  LT does not
> > > > have the burst he once had, that much is clear.  But he looked very
> > > > good nonetheless, especially running outside and catching the ball.
> > > > His TD catch and sprint was a nifty piece of running. Too bad it got
> > > > called back.  T. Jones couldn't catch.  LT can.  Therein lies the
> > > > difference for the Jets in 2010.  LT will be used a lot as a check
> > > > down option for Sanchez.  Heck... even Shonn Greene caught a pass last
> > > > night.  That was nice to see.  What LT doesn't do well anymore is run
> > > > between the tackles.  That's what Shonn Greene is for. Greene's
> > > > running is exciting to watch.  He is the bruising back that I had
> > > > hoped Thomas Jones would be, but never was.  He is one tough mofo to
> > > > bring down and if he stays healthy, he will be a force to be reckoned
> > > > with.  Liked what I saw of him yesterday!  As for the pathetic
> > > > bakups... Woodhead looked fine I guess and should make the squad only
> > > > because McKnight is no where close to being ready.  He is so far
> > > > removed from being ready for the NFL that I question the wisdom of the
> > > > pick.  He really looked bad at moments.  Not happy with him at all.
> > > > Overall, I'm not sure that the running game will be as productive and
> > > > produce as lofty numbers as last year, but it will be good.
>
> > > > 3. WRs:  Cotch very reliable as usual.  Thank goodness for JCO.
> > > > Braylon Edwards is an enigma.  He can make the most ridiculous
> > > > difficult catches (one last night was simply spectacular), which shows
> > > > he has amazing hands. It is mind boggling when he loses concentration
> > > > and drops easy ones (did not happen last night).  His size and build
> > > > remind me of Rob Moore, Keyshawn and Toon a bit.  I expect big plays
> > > > from him this year.  Holmes is one of the best route runners I have
> > > > ever seen.  In a split second, he separates from what looks like
> > > > blanket tight coverage.  The man is a play maker and the most exciting
> > > > WR on the team.  It is so frustrating that he won't see the field
> > > > until week 5.  But then again, the suspension had a lot to do with his
> > > > low cost from the Steelers.  As a WR trio, Edwards, Cotch and Holmes
> > > > are among the best in the NFL.  Tanny has given Sanchez a nice set of
> > > > weapons, including the pass catching LT and Keller and the rookie TE
> > > > Cummings? who seems to be able to catch anything.  Give credit to the
> > > > FO for giving Sanchez the tools he needs to succeed.  I hve not been
> > > > this excited about Jets WRs since Keyshawn-Chrebet-Ward in 1998, and
> > > > the trio now is a lot better, IMO.  I sure hope the FO finds a way to
> > > > keep JCO, BE and SH for years to come.
>
> > > > 4. On the DL, I think Gholston will be cut in the last round of cuts.
> > > > If not, he should be.  He is flat out awful.  He almost made one play
> > > > but couldn't finish it.  He has no intensity at all and I thought I
> > > > saw him quit on more than one play.  Rex has to let him go despite the
> > > > huge signing bonus he got.  There can be no more excuses or tolerance
> > > > for his paly.  This of course makes the DL as thin as can be (but not
> > > > NE thin quite yet).  Maybe the Jets FO can troll the waiver wire for
> > > > cuts and bring another player or two in because if Ellis goes down,
> > > > the DL is in big trouble.  BLT (now #58) looked decent out there last
> > > > night.  I was mildly surprised to see his energy and him making a huge
> > > > effort.  As for Jason Taylor, what can I say.  Seeing him in Jets
> > > > green is just weird.  They showed the video of him from last season
> > > > throwing the ball into the Jets logo on the wall behind the endzone
> > > > after running it in following a Shonn Green fumble and then taunting
> > > > the crowd, telling us we had nothing several times.  I despise him.
> > > > Maybe that will change when he starts pressuring opposing QBs and
> > > > getting some sacks.  Let's see him knock Henne out down in Florida.
> > > > But I am thankful he is here because we got nothing in Gholston.
> > > > Nothing.
>
> > > > 5. Cromartie is incredibly athletic.  I thought I saw him quit early
> > > > on a couple of plays (recollect Shonn Greene's TD run against the
> > > > Chargers last year).  But the man can cover!.  I just don't want to
> > > > see any Kerry Rhodes-like aversion to physical contact, and I thought
> > > > Isaw some of that last night, particularly on the Bradshaw 58 yard
> > > > catch and run (although Leonard attempt to tackle him was laughable
> > > > too).  With Revis holding out, I am glad we have the Cromartian
> > > > there.  I liked what I saw of Wilson last night.  What a steal so late
> > > > in the draft.  Sure tackler.  Damn, if Revis gets back, the corners on
> > > > this team look match up well with the WR trio.  Did anyone watch
> > > > Poole?  I didn't have my eye on him so I can't comment.  Why did
> > > > Lowery look so damned bad in the second half?  Has he regressed?
>
> > > > 6. Folk makes me nervous.  One of his FGs from less than 40 squeaked
> > > > through and I think he missed a 40+ in the second half.  I hate
> > > > feeling like we have an iffy kicker, but I fear that we do.
>
> > > > 7. Pass protection:  Woody showing his age on letting  ookie Pierre-
> > > > Paul (Rupaul?)  fly by him and get to Sanchez or was it just a lack of
> > > > effort?  Otherwise the line held up well against a consistent pass
> > > > rush.  Giants seemed to blitz more than usual.
>
> > > > 8. Loved watching Eli bleed all over (sorry, but I can't help it)
>
> > > > 9. Please lets not start with the Schott shit yet.  Dammit it is
> > > > preseason and you are only going to see vanilla right now.  You guys
> > > > can't wait to pounce.  Give it a rest at least until after the Ravens
> > > > and Pats games.  Kill the pre conceived agenda and give this a shot
> > > > (no pun intended).  If after the Ravens and the Pats his play calling
> > > > sucks, then I'll chime in with you, but you are not going to be able
> > > > to make a valid judgment (nor should you be) from what you see of his
> > > > play calling in pre season.  That's just the way it is.  Same is true
> > > > for any NFL team. I did like some of the plays that allowed Edwards to
> > > > get wide open.  Very nice.  But for pete's sake, dont judge by
> > > > preseason palycalling.  That's just stupid.
>
> > > > biggest takeaways:  Sanchez on the right path.  WRs looking good.  DL
> > > > not so hot on pass rush yet but not much blitzing in a vanilla schele
> > > > yesterday.  Gholston needs to pack his bags and be logged in as one of
> > > > the worst Jets draft picks of all time.  Right there with, or worse
> > > > than, Johnny Lam Jones, Blair Thomas and many others.  Running game
> > > > will be very good.
>
> > > Thanks for the detailed post, Tut, which I agree with for the most
> > > part.  I still don't like Schott's play calling.  When I can tell what
> > > plays are coming (in the first half, which is all that I really
> > > watched) I have to think that his tendencies are very apparent.  You
> > > may have something about Sanchez and his passes to the left side.
> > > Good observation.  But the kid still needs a hit in the head with a
> > > ball bat for repeated stupidity. Green is great.  McNight was at a
> > > disadvantage though, having to make a gazillion runs into the tackle
> > > holes.  He just can't do it.  I wonder if it was Rex who wanted to see
> > > what he had in him or if it was Schott's brain dead calls.  1st team D
> > > is very good & will be great when Mevis is back.  Liked Slauson's
> > > play.  Didn't see much of Holmes though, if at all.  Wonder how this
> > > game will play on Hard Knocks.
>
> > Johnny I haven't re watched the entire 1st half but what about that
> > first TD drive did you not like?  We then settled for FG's on the next
> > two & the last one a sack made it tough.
>
> I don't think I said anything about that first (er, second) drive,
> John.  The plays that I didn't like were the repeated inside calls for
> McKnight.  That smacked of his old mule hardheadedness when he gave us
> a steady diet of up the gut runs featuring TJ the last two years.  Or
> don't you remember my nausea at this element of his game planning?
> The two FG attempts didn't bother me.  I
> ...
>
> read more »

Johnny if you read what I wrote you will see I wrote 1st TD drive,
stupid.

:)

OK, you are talking about the 2nd half. Maybe the want to get
McKnight some carries or run the plays the reserves would see if
pulled up or maybe Schott sucks biut that would be unfair to reach
that conclusion from watching the 2ndhalf of a pre-season game.

== 4 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 6:49 am
From: Michael


On Aug 18, 12:17 am, "papa.carl44" <papadotc...@nospamverizon.net>
wrote:
> "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> news:52f089d9-9632-4e8e-b1c7-a46efa7520b8@x21g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 17, 3:39 pm, "papa.carl44" <papadotc...@nospamverizon.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Yup....big time. Especially Feeley and Faneca....I did not see any great
> > line play from the new gang at all. I'll wait and see what the new RB's
> > do.
>
> You did not see any good line play ??? For a line that did not have
> their center, who is one of the best in the NFL, I think they did a
> very good job.  I saw a lot of good no frills holes pop open on the
> interior of the line. They also gave Sanchez excellent protection.  He
> had a lot of time to throw the ball.
>
> Oh boy....once again, go read what I wrote.  There is a signifcant
> difference between "Great" and "Good"......I wanted to see a marked
> improvement.  Clauson has a very hard time pulling and getting out in
> front...in that offense that skill is absolutely critical, period.

Papa... I know you have some real first hand experience with football,
but I'm questioning this here in my ignorance. The Jets ran better
behind Moore last year than they did behind Faneca. Moore is not a
pulling guard. He blows open no frills holes. One and done. Faneca
did run out down field a lot and throw blocks, but he could not move
the pile. I think the Jets want to move the pile. They can get WR's
to throw blocks downfield. All of their power running plays were
right handed last year because Faneca got smoked on the line. Now,
they can run "gut" plays to the right side too. So as far as your
argument that their type of offense needs a pulling specialist at
LG... The way I see it, they had to go with what they had last year.
Meaning a LG that could not blast the type of holes that a ground and
pound "all weather offense" likes to see.


== 5 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 6:59 am
From: MZ


Michael wrote:
> All of their power running plays were
> right handed last year because Faneca got smoked on the line.

Or because Faneca could move and Moore can't.


== 6 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 7:09 am
From: Harlan Lachman


In article <hnvl661pj97400mg5omhhij7ki39692q8u@4ax.com>,
graybeard <graybeard@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 13:13:03 -0700 (PDT) Johnny Morongo
> <j.mirehiel@harmonicconcordance.com> wrote:
>
> >I don't think I said anything about that first (er, second) drive,
> >John. The plays that I didn't like were the repeated inside calls for
> >McKnight. That smacked of his old mule hardheadedness when he gave us
> >a steady diet of up the gut runs featuring TJ the last two years.
>
> Johnny, your first instinct was correct. Rex was quoted several times
> this week about how McKnight was gaining all his yards in practice by
> running wide, and Rex wanted to see him running inside the tackles so he
> wouldn't be one dimensional. I personally feel that if they wanted a
> runner who could bust through the line and break off a 50 yard run, then
> they should have kept Leon.

Which one Gray? The Leon before the injury or the one with a rod in his
leg who is still not practicing or playing fully.

Both had unreasonable salary demands.

It may be Leon comes back stronger, a metal man. OTOH, maybe he never
comes back.

But, as much as the morons who say just pay Revis annoy me, at least
Revis is perhaps an indispensable part of the team. The just pay Leon
folks really pissed me off.

I am glad we are not dealing with his agent, his wife, and his
unreasonable demands.

harlan


== 7 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 7:15 am
From: John C TX


On Aug 18, 8:59 am, MZ <m...@nospam.void> wrote:
> Michael wrote:
> > All of their power running plays were
> > right handed last year because Faneca got smoked on the line.
>
> Or because Faneca could move and Moore can't.

or the TE was on the right or the RB's favor the right or that Sanchez
is right handed or..........


== 8 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 7:16 am
From: Harlan Lachman


In article <Cuedne-fSrcYePfRnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"papa.carl44" <papadotcarl@nospamverizon.net> wrote:

> "John C TX" <johnctxjets@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:103dc269-2cdd-4e85-b4c3-a3d17ecb6399@z28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> X-No-Archive: Yes
>
> > 5. ducasse and slauson BOTH looked fantastic in general. ducasse has
> > massive power , but still looks raw with his footwork. his feet are
> > fast, but confused. he also seems that he does not rotate much in the
> > hips to push blockers asside. even hunter did some good work. i'm
> > beginning to give callahan more and more credit for the play of the
> > lets offensive line. despite all the changes in who plays where
> > over , the entire line played well as a unit.
>
> Michael, stop defending your book when it comes to getting rid of
> Faneca. For whatever his flaws on pass blocking, today he is better
> than both our LG's today. I jut watched the Jets 1st scoring drive
> again. Here is what I saw.
>
> Slauson is not fast enough to get outside on some of the screens we
> run which is important when one of your backs likes to catch the
> ball. He didn't get "blown up" like Faneca, a DT ran around him on a
> pass play. At least Faneca, when beaten, slowed the rusher down. He
> did OK on run blocking but is not the road grader you talked about. I
> also remember a play later in the 1st or 2nd Q when he tried to pull &
> looked like drunk leaving a saloon. Granted he played without Mangold
> but Turner may be the better choice there. I hop eyou are right nut
> you didn't see it in yesterday's game.
>
> As for Callahan, I think he is a step up from what we had.
>
> I hate that we got rid of Feeley, Faneca & Washington. It ruined our
> offs season and could bite us in the ass.
>
> Yup....big time. Especially Feeley and Faneca....I did not see any great
> line play from the new gang at all. I'll wait and see what the new RB's do.

None of these departures, nor James Dearth, bother me. If Revis was not
one of the most selfish players in the league, the only one with a
contract, much less one with three years on it, sitting out of camp,
they would be footnotes.

Our FG unit may suck. I understand the gamble to let a FG kicker who
missed two in the AFC championship game go in order to sign Taylor. I
understand the decision to let Dearth, a guy with only one skill go.
Faneca may be better than Slauson or Ducasse; if he is, it means we
cannot draft or coach up OL because faneca was not great at pass
blocking or straight ahead blocking.

As I posted in another thread, Leon's salary demands were unreasonable
before he got a rod inserted in his leg. He has not fully practiced or
played yet. There is no assurance he ever comes fully back but we got
rid of his agent, his catty wife, and his unreasonable demands.

Our offseason will not be the reason we don't do better than last year.

harlan


== 9 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 7:21 am
From: Harlan Lachman


In article <X8udnVL2u7n9evbRnZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@giganews.com>,
MZ <mark@nospam.void> wrote:

> Michael wrote:
> > All of their power running plays were
> > right handed last year because Faneca got smoked on the line.
>
> Or because Faneca could move and Moore can't.

or to make sure Michael gets it:

Faneca pulled as well as anyone. Moore does not. Moore was the better
straight ahead blocker. That meant are best point of attack was having
Faneca pull and support Moore and Woodie.

Even if Faneca did get smoked on straight ahead blocking, had Moore
tried to pull, all he would do was provide comic relief to our opponent.

I sure hope Slauson or Ducasse can pull or we will have no running with
a pulling guard this season.

h


== 10 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 7:21 am
From: John C TX


X-No-Archive: Yes

> It may be Leon comes back stronger, a metal man. OTOH, maybe he never
> comes back.
>
> But, as much as the morons who say just pay Revis annoy me, at least
> Revis is perhaps an indispensable part of the team. The just pay Leon
> folks really pissed me off.
>
> I am glad we are not dealing with his agent, his wife, and his
> unreasonable demands.
>
> harlan

H, we had him cheap this year. To me a 4th rounder, especially when
the 4th rounder is McKnight makes little sense. If we took another
player, maybe, but I would be happy to have him right now.

http://blog.seahawks.com/2010/08/11/wednesday-in-hawkville-25/

== 11 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 8:07 am
From: Michael


On Aug 18, 9:59 am, MZ <m...@nospam.void> wrote:
> Michael wrote:
> > All of their power running plays were
> > right handed last year because Faneca got smoked on the line.
>
> Or because Faneca could move and Moore can't.

not a very good point you are making... keller can move better than
both moore and faneca, but i dont think you'd want to plug him in to
the lg spot. faneca is gone because he could not do his job any
longer. i'll say it again... we have wr's to throw blocks down
field. what you need a lg to be able to do is stand up under a pass
rush and move the pile. you dont disregard the absolute importance of
those abilities just because a guy that CANT do EITHER of them any
longer is still willing and able to do the blocking job a wr should
do.

It bothers you because I said faneca was not worth the money and i was
exactly just right. if you and who ever else is in love with the guy,
get his poster and hang it up some place. right now he's exactly in
the right place that is best for the jets. on another team...


== 12 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 8:25 am
From: MZ


Michael wrote:
> On Aug 18, 9:59 am, MZ <m...@nospam.void> wrote:
>> Michael wrote:
>>> All of their power running plays were
>>> right handed last year because Faneca got smoked on the line.
>> Or because Faneca could move and Moore can't.
>
> not a very good point you are making... keller can move better than
> both moore and faneca, but i dont think you'd want to plug him in to
> the lg spot.

Keller doesn't block on the move better than Faneca.


> faneca is gone because he could not do his job any
> longer. i'll say it again... we have wr's to throw blocks down
> field.

On ILBs?


> what you need a lg to be able to do is stand up under a pass
> rush and move the pile.

And block at the second level. And pull. And do lots of other things.


> It bothers you because I said faneca was not worth the money and i was
> exactly just right. if you and who ever else is in love with the guy,
> get his poster and hang it up some place. right now he's exactly in
> the right place that is best for the jets. on another team...

I'm really starting to wonder why you're so interested in fattening
Woody's wallet.


== 13 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 8:50 am
From: Michael


On Aug 18, 11:25 am, MZ <m...@nospam.void> wrote:
> Michael wrote:
> > On Aug 18, 9:59 am, MZ <m...@nospam.void> wrote:
> >> Michael wrote:
> >>> All of their power running plays were
> >>> right handed last year because Faneca got smoked on the line.
> >> Or because Faneca could move and Moore can't.
>
> >  not a very good point you are making... keller can move better than
> > both moore and faneca, but i dont think you'd want to plug him in to
> > the lg spot.
>
> Keller doesn't block on the move better than Faneca.
>
> > faneca is gone because he could not do his job any
> > longer.  i'll say it again... we have wr's to throw blocks down
> > field.
>
> On ILBs?
>
> >  what you need a lg to be able to do is stand up under a pass
> > rush and move the pile.
>
> And block at the second level.  And pull.  And do lots of other things.
>
> > It bothers you because I said faneca was not worth the money and i was
> > exactly just right.  if you and who ever else is in love with the guy,
> > get his poster and hang it up some place.  right now he's exactly in
> > the right place that is best for the jets.  on another team...
>
> I'm really starting to wonder why you're so interested in fattening
> Woody's wallet.

mark... i dont understand why you are discounting the point im
making. it is ideal if you have a guard that can pull like faneca IF
he can also do a decent job on the line with pass blocking and hole
blasting. it is fatal to start a guy that cant do those things so
well even if he can still flatten ray lewis in open field with a head
of steam. i was tired of watching him get smoked. he was the worst
pass blocking line guy i have seen the jets dress since the days of
clement and clarke. he was arguably the worst pass blocking G in the
NFL last year.

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 7:31 am
From: Harlan Lachman


In article <i4f9mv$lb0$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
"Ray O'Hara" <raymond-ohara@hotmail.com> wrote:

> 18 game seasons will be coming, it will be an owners want in the next
> collective bargaining contract.
> the players want guaranteed contracts. they wantthemt bad. this will be the
> biggest point of contention
> I fear we'll see a lock-out/strike.
>
> when things about the CBC show up in the sports pages it's usually from the
> owners
> and they seemed very determined.
> the players union seems very disorganized in comparison.
>
> everybody is kind of ignoring it but after this season ends it's going to
> get ugly.
>
>
> .
> .

Ray, the players will not strike; NFL players careers are too short to
gamble with.

The owners with their slave mentality and their egos will lock the
players out.

The owners can get a rookie cap and more games. But I think they will be
pigs.

No way does the NFL go to guaranteed contracts for everyone.

h


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 7:53 am
From: Polarhound


On 8/18/2010 10:31 AM, Harlan Lachman wrote:

> The owners can get a rookie cap and more games. But I think they will be
> pigs.

News flash, numbnuts: The PLAYERS want a rookie cap.

Oh, and you forgot to put "capitalist" before "pigs" like a good commie.


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