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Today's topics:
* Great moments in triathlism - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/45a2bf2b9e32e0b3?hl=en
* What exactly did Landis confess to? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/8cffc57732250f79?hl=en
* I hope someone breaks a bat over this cunt's head - Stephanie Mcilvain - 2
messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/23d29bce0d6d2ee0?hl=en
* 100% without a doubt - Lance Armstrong commits perjury in SCA Deposition - 4
messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/922541491e2ecdd5?hl=en
* Lance Armstrong, "I don't recall." - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/49144e36d79c0dfc?hl=en
* "Hi Betsy, it's Stephanie...." - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/6f0f1e57d0bfa788?hl=en
* Brooke Miller is a Liz Hatch - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/d48cb079edcca1bf?hl=en
* Novitzky is going to tear Armstrong apart - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/40bb98d44bc3e5e9?hl=en
* Eddy Merckx is a god damn cocksucker - 5 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/08024423fbc43188?hl=en
* a superficial message from the G5 - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/f88e8c5d7d44f998?hl=en
* Rationale behing "Luxembourg" team - ousting Riis ? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/1030fd2bf5bd7d8f?hl=en
* Vuelta a Espana, stage 21 summary - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/fb76b7bc0c407cdd?hl=en
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TOPIC: Great moments in triathlism
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/45a2bf2b9e32e0b3?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2010 12:00 am
From: Fredmaster of Brainerd
On Sep 19, 11:39 pm, William Fred <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote in news:a3ba3814-f556-4931-
> 952a-8d1518a3b...@z34g2000pro.googlegroups.com:
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRKajY5GlyI&feature=player_embedded
>
> > Elite women triathletes trying to get on bicycles. Apparently this is
> > a skill that is difficult to master.
Adri van der Poel wept.
> Did that lone yellow shoe at the end have a foot in it?
Did it wash up in Vancouver? If not, probably not. This
is certainly giving me second thoughts about the
run-bike-swim-last triathlon, on humanitarian grounds.
On the other hand, this video does suggest a new variant
on cyclocross race, possibly even more awesome than
Halloween costume races: fixed-shoe dismounts. We
bolt the shoes to the pedals like for track cyclists, and
at each barrier the CX racers have to get their feet out
of the shoes, run, and remount and get their muddy feet
back into the shoes. Bunnyhoppers will be heckled,
ostracized, and have to do a penalty loop through the
beer tent.
God, I wish LANCE would go to jail already so we could
get on with cyclocross season.
Fredshoeducttaper Ben
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2010 9:15 am
From: Ryan Cousineau
On Sep 20, 12:00 am, Fredmaster of Brainerd <bjwei...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Sep 19, 11:39 pm, William Fred <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote in news:a3ba3814-f556-4931-
> > 952a-8d1518a3b...@z34g2000pro.googlegroups.com:
>
> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRKajY5GlyI&feature=player_embedded
>
> > > Elite women triathletes trying to get on bicycles. Apparently this is
> > > a skill that is difficult to master.
>
> Adri van der Poel wept.
>
> > Did that lone yellow shoe at the end have a foot in it?
>
> Did it wash up in Vancouver? If not, probably not. This
> is certainly giving me second thoughts about the
> run-bike-swim-last triathlon, on humanitarian grounds.
>
> On the other hand, this video does suggest a new variant
> on cyclocross race, possibly even more awesome than
> Halloween costume races: fixed-shoe dismounts. We
> bolt the shoes to the pedals like for track cyclists, and
> at each barrier the CX racers have to get their feet out
> of the shoes, run, and remount and get their muddy feet
> back into the shoes. Bunnyhoppers will be heckled,
> ostracized, and have to do a penalty loop through the
> beer tent.
>
> God, I wish LANCE would go to jail already so we could
> get on with cyclocross season.
>
> Fredshoeducttaper Ben
Some of us have. I saw Mourey put on a school in work-minimization at
Starcrossed. He drafted Trebon for most of the race, making this crazy-
looking Mutt and Jeff duo that was far ahead of the third rider, and
squirted by him in the last 200m or so.
Katerina Nash was solidly dominant, though Wendy Simms gapped everyone
else to cruise home in second.
In fairness to the triathletes, there were some spectacular crashes in
both the Elite men and women races. In an early lap, one brighteyes
tried to use the (concrete, painted) velodrome to arc into a tight
corner. In the rain, this tactic failed spectacularly, and he slid on
his ass at speed for 15 feet or so on the ashphalte apron, going right
under the bar tape.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2010 9:52 am
From: Uncle Dave
On Sep 20, 7:31 am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRKajY5GlyI&feature=player_embedded
>
> Elite women triathletes trying to get on bicycles. Apparently this is
> a skill that is difficult to master.
ROTFL, but then I'm easily amused.
UD
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TOPIC: What exactly did Landis confess to?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/8cffc57732250f79?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2010 1:34 am
From: "Beloved Fred No. 1"
Phil H wrote:
> "We believed, for example, that Newtonian mechanics was true until
> well into the 20th
> century when Einstein proved it to be false."
>
> It wasn't proven false, Einstein came up with a more inclusive theory
> for extremely high velocities. Example, how many of us
> stir the theory of relativity into our TT speeds or is distance over
> time still good enough?
Some FM's have enough mass to distort space-time during their TT.
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TOPIC: I hope someone breaks a bat over this cunt's head - Stephanie Mcilvain
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/23d29bce0d6d2ee0?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2010 1:35 am
From: "Beloved Fred No. 1"
BLafferty wrote:
> Yeah, I wish Lemond would stop causing earthquakes and tsunamis, too.
I thought it was all LANCE's fault. Or LANCE and Obama's fault.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2010 8:30 am
From: Magilla Gorilla
Phil H wrote:
> On Sep 19, 9:41 am, Amit Ghosh <amit.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sep 19, 12:14 pm, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I had a little sympathy for this lying whore until I read her
> > > delusional rant and threats in the NY Daily News but now realize that
> > > Stephanie Mcilvain is no different than every other self serving cunt
> > > that wants her way and her happiness and success no matter what the
> > > cost is to her morality or ability to look straight in a mirror.
> >
> > dumbass,
> >
> > she is a wreck because she is was intimidated my Armstrongto lie in
> > the SCA testimny and Lemond has her on tape admitting the lie and also
> > implicating Hincapie. Now she faces the difficult prospect of
> > testifying in a federal case.
> >
> > her drunk and vaguely threatening voicemails are pretty entertaining
> > though.
>
> And how again do we know which is the lie? To be more accurate, her
> stories are inconsistent.
> Phil H
Please pay attention.
Thanks,
Magilla
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TOPIC: 100% without a doubt - Lance Armstrong commits perjury in SCA
Deposition
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/922541491e2ecdd5?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2010 5:28 am
From: Anton Berlin
> Are you & Jute Andre the same person? Not that there's anything wrong
> with that.
>
> --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com
Mike - AJ is a slimy prick and I don't spend enough time on these
boards to even have the faintest idea why you'd suggest such a thing.
It was I that put the post up that Jute would stone women if he wasn't
putting up all of this helmet bullshit.
But why you don't stay focused on two critical facts. We know
Armstrong has doped. Anyone that's paid any attention and has any
sense of an honest dialogue with their inner being knows that for a
fact.
And here we have 5 + occasions of him committing outright perjury.
Where do you stand on these facts?
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2010 7:44 am
From: Magilla Gorilla
Anton Berlin wrote:
> And on page 35
>
> Well, if I've never taken
> 20 performance-enhancing drugs, I never would have told a
> 21 doctor that I took performance-enhancing drugs,
> 22 therefore, they never would have written down in any
> 23 records that I'd taken performance-enhancing drugs.
It's common knowledge in the medical community that doctors do not write
down things like this in medical records because it has no purpose in
treatment. And in fact, doctors purposely leave stuff like this out of
the records.
It's like asking a skateboarder if he had permission to skate on the
property where he did a trick and broke his arm. Why would a doctor
give a fuck about about that information - is it going to change the way
he treats the patient? No.
Second, it seems pretty obvious that the people who asked Lance this
question were student doctors-in-training (he was at a teaching
hospital) and this question was just one of out curiosity's sake. Lance
answered it honestly, thinking that everyone in the room was part of his
doping team.
Wait until Ferrari comes out with a tell-all book about doping when he's
70. Lance will claim Ferrari is senile.
Magilla
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2010 7:46 am
From: Anton Berlin
>
> Wait until Ferrari comes out with a tell-all book about doping when he's
> 70. Lance will claim Ferrari is senile.
>
> Magilla
We won't have to wait that long. This will all be settled in the next
two years or so,
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2010 9:51 am
From: raamman
On Sep 20, 1:57 am, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> and on page 87
>
> 1
> A.
> I think so. I've never had an A sample
> 2 positive.
> 3
> Q.
> Okay. That was my first question, was --
> 4
> A.
> So I don't know.
> 5
> Q.
>
> You -- I appreciate your answer. Let me ask
> 6 this so I have the question. Have you ever had a
> 7 positive A sample --
> 8
> A.
> No.
> 9
> Q.
> -- in any test you've ever taken that you
> 10 recall?
> 11
> A.
> No.
yep. you found it.
how the fuck did the judge and jury miss that ???
oh, wait, I got it- they're on the payroll too !
now be careful, I'm sure you are now a marked man.
you brain-dead dolt.
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TOPIC: Lance Armstrong, "I don't recall."
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/49144e36d79c0dfc?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2010 5:48 am
From: Anton Berlin
Mike -
Your untenable position is starting to make you look like a god damn
fool.
Lance isn't sharp by any measure - he has 4 basic tactics and for the
most part will only find himself in DEEPER and DEEPER shit when he
sits across the table from Novitzky.
1. Outright lies - commits perjury - as the 'foundation' of his
innocence. - Just more fat for the fire when it comes to prison
time.
2. "I don't recall" or "can't remember" - JN will help him remember
with all of the critical and collaborative testimony.
3. Dances around by selective recollection - again JN will help clear
these things up for all.
4. Asks "are we done with this?" - JN will pound away in those areas
until Lance either lies or breaks down.
Your boy is fucked. And I am going to - at the very least - send
Magilla and JN a bottle of vintage champagne the day that "Mellow
Johnny" becomes "Outraged Orange" and trades in a yellow jersey for an
orange jumpsuit.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2010 9:23 am
From: "Mike Jacoubowsky"
Lance's "4 basic tactics" have served him well enough so far. You guys
have been saying the same things for years, and he's still out there
making big $$$ while you guys waste your testosterone, what little you
have left, waiting on Lance's fall. Instead of what, I don't know. Maybe
you have nothing better to do than toss in gratuitous swearing and
slander women whose shoes you've never walked in.
And just what *is* my "untenable position" anyway? What is it you think
I've said that's so foolish? I've been commenting on the process, on the
lack of physical evidence. Trying to move it away from a he-said
she-said thing. Nobody ever comments regarding the lack of physical
evidence. How are these people so smart that they can cover the physical
tracks so well? How is it that no rider decided, for insurance, to take
some photos or document a financial trail? And maybe some did! In which
case Novitsky might dig it up. But it raises more questions, like why
did it take until now for this to happen?
And then there's Floyd. You guys want to put him up on a pedestal now,
saying see, we were right, Floyd says so! Well Floyd is still making
stories up even know (I documented one of them, regarding his ridiculous
notion about riding inferior bikes, but you probably didn't care because
all you care about is the idea of Lance crashing down).
Open your eyes and watch the process. It's an amazing thing to behold.
The truth is out there, and it won't be pretty. And it might be what you
dream at night, or it could be a variation, or it could blow you away.
Who knows. I'm voting on option #2 myself (making some assumptions about
what you dream & drool over, which doesn't exactly take a shrink to do).
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
"Anton Berlin" <truth_88888@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e54d5835-26fe-4d3d-8a31-5f465207709f@e20g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
> Mike -
>
> Your untenable position is starting to make you look like a god damn
> fool.
>
> Lance isn't sharp by any measure - he has 4 basic tactics and for the
> most part will only find himself in DEEPER and DEEPER shit when he
> sits across the table from Novitzky.
>
> 1. Outright lies - commits perjury - as the 'foundation' of his
> innocence. - Just more fat for the fire when it comes to prison
> time.
>
> 2. "I don't recall" or "can't remember" - JN will help him remember
> with all of the critical and collaborative testimony.
>
> 3. Dances around by selective recollection - again JN will help clear
> these things up for all.
>
> 4. Asks "are we done with this?" - JN will pound away in those areas
> until Lance either lies or breaks down.
>
> Your boy is fucked. And I am going to - at the very least - send
> Magilla and JN a bottle of vintage champagne the day that "Mellow
> Johnny" becomes "Outraged Orange" and trades in a yellow jersey for an
> orange jumpsuit.
>
>
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TOPIC: "Hi Betsy, it's Stephanie...."
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/6f0f1e57d0bfa788?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2010 6:45 am
From: Fred Flintstein
On 9/19/2010 9:54 PM, LawBoy01 wrote:
> On Sep 18, 2:09 pm, Amit Ghosh<amit.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sep 18, 2:05 pm, Magilla Gorilla<m.gori...@sandiegozoo.org> wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more_sports/2010/09/18/2010-09-18_a...
>>
>> Ah ha ha ha!
>>
>> What a fucking headcase.
>
> Agreed. But where's the transcript that proves Betsy was right and
> telling the truth?
Betsy has no credibility as long as she is an apologist for
an admitted doper.
Fred "Doesn't believe Frankie's involvement was minimal" Flintstein
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TOPIC: Brooke Miller is a Liz Hatch
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/d48cb079edcca1bf?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2010 7:39 am
From: Magilla Gorilla
http://www.podiuminsight.com/2010/08/30/brooke-miller-says-goodbye/
Brooke Miller is everything that is wrong with women's cycling.
She's still lying to herself about why she retired. The real reason she
retired is because she is not competitive in the sport, and she knows
she will never qualify, let alone win the Olympics. So rather than have
reality show that to the world, she chose to preempt it, retire, and
then claim publicly she "doesn't really want to go to the Olympics
anymore" because she doesn't want to make the necessary "sacrifice."
So she concocted this backdated prescription that "I don't really want
to go any more because I miss going white water rafting and on hikes."
Can somebody please explain to me how being a female pro cyclist who
trains maybe 150 miles/week means you can't go hiking and white water
rafting? I mean, Lance Pharmstrong goes surfing in fucking Hawaii and
hangs out at strip clubs and bars in Austin. And since Brooke skips
every major stage race since she can't climb....that would seem to give
her a lot of free time, no?
She also talks about how she's not willing to be "4 months on the road
away from her boyfriend"...oh my God, the sheer horror of its mere
mention sends chills down my spine. This is how a 13 year old talks.
This girl is another form of Liz Hatch. She has created her own
fantasia in the sport and thinks that everyone else is obligated to buy
into it.
Magilla
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TOPIC: Novitzky is going to tear Armstrong apart
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/40bb98d44bc3e5e9?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2010 7:47 am
From: Magilla Gorilla
Anton Berlin wrote:
> Reading this SCA deposition - Lance is able to do a C- level at
> keeping his ass out of hot water other than the perjuries I've already
> indicated.
>
> But the problem for Lance now is that there is much more information
> available and Novitzky is way more thorough.
>
> It's going to be great. Can't wait to see the transcript and the
> racking up of perjury charges (new and old)
>
> You're dead meat cocksucker Lance - dead fucking meat.
Well, the big difference between SCA case and Novitzky is Lance and his
country bumpkins think it's a game to lie in a civil hearing. But when
they go to federal grand jury to testify under oath and are cognizant
that the feds are not afraid to charge sports people with perjury....now
Lance needs a a criminal defense attorney and a PR machine to do his
lying for them.
Everybody knows Lance is a bigtime doper in this sport.
Magilla
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2010 7:55 am
From: Anton Berlin
> Well, the big difference between SCA case and Novitzky is Lance and his
> country bumpkins think it's a game to lie in a civil hearing. But when
> they go to federal grand jury to testify under oath and are cognizant
> that the feds are not afraid to charge sports people with perjury....now
> Lance needs a a criminal defense attorney and a PR machine to do his
> lying for them.
>
> Everybody knows Lance is a bigtime doper in this sport.
>
> Magilla
JT (SCA dep) made it pretty clear that Lance was under oath and
perjury charges are possible. The question is why didn't they pursue
it further?
They rolled over (or am I just being hindsite biased) as there is much
more informationa nd those willing to come forward now?
However, the line of questioning leads me to believe that they knew
(somewhat) the facts surrounding what we know to be true today.
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TOPIC: Eddy Merckx is a god damn cocksucker
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/08024423fbc43188?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2010 7:52 am
From: Anton Berlin
Reading the SCA testimony leaves no doubt in my mind that Eddy is
another cheating motherfucker that likes to surround himself with like
ilk.
Fuck you Eddy - you're a god damn cunt. You're poison to other people
- to truth, to fair play.
I don't believe in anything you've done.
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2010 8:16 am
From: Magilla Gorilla
Anton Berlin wrote:
> Reading the SCA testimony leaves no doubt in my mind that Eddy is
> another cheating motherfucker that likes to surround himself with like
> ilk.
>
> Fuck you Eddy - you're a god damn cunt. You're poison to other people
> - to truth, to fair play.
>
> I don't believe in anything you've done.
Eddy Merckx has to go to Interbike every year and loiter on the expo
floor with people half his age wearing one of those Euro-ID necklaces to
make sure everyone knows who he is. He's afraid people will forget he
was a guy who beat factory workers back in the 1960's when a 2:25
marathon would win you any men's marathon in the world.
One day I'm going to crack that glass case that holds his bike in the
Belgian subway and pour acid all over it.
Thanks,
Magilla
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2010 8:20 am
From: Anton Berlin
I am going back to the Tour of Flanders museum and piss on his
'winning' TdF bike they have down in the basement. No glass breaking
required.
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2010 8:30 am
From: Fred Flintstein
On 9/20/2010 10:20 AM, Anton Berlin wrote:
> I am going back to the Tour of Flanders museum and piss on his
> 'winning' TdF bike they have down in the basement. No glass breaking
> required.
Dumbass,
Every bike in the place was ridden by a doper. Be sure to drink
a lot of tea before you go.
Fred Flintstein
PS Eddy tested positive at least three times. Will you at least
try to keep up?
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2010 8:58 am
From: Magilla Gorilla
Anton Berlin wrote:
> I am going back to the Tour of Flanders museum and piss on his
> 'winning' TdF bike they have down in the basement. No glass breaking
> required.
Ich bin ein Berliner.
Magilla F. Gorilla
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TOPIC: a superficial message from the G5
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/f88e8c5d7d44f998?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2010 8:04 am
From: Magilla Gorilla
There's no way he's marrying this chick. At least not until she learns
to drop some coin at the Max Factor counter at Macys.
That is all.
Magilla
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZWZGLojKBM&feature=related
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2010 8:27 am
From: Anton Berlin
http://www.youtube.com/user/AntonBerlin1
She looks like she'll visit him in prison often. He probably uses
that in his flow process to makes mate choices at this point.
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TOPIC: Rationale behing "Luxembourg" team - ousting Riis ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/1030fd2bf5bd7d8f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2010 8:23 am
From: Amit Ghosh
On Sep 20, 1:04 am, "Kurgan Gringioni" <soulinthemach...@gmail.com>
> OK, but if there wasn't a personality conflict, why didn't the Schlecks just
> bring Riis along to their new team?
>
> They took his lieutenants instead.
dumbass,
because riis now has contador.
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TOPIC: Vuelta a Espana, stage 21 summary
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/fb76b7bc0c407cdd?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2010 9:19 am
From: Ryan Cousineau
On Sep 19, 11:07 am, Bob Martin <bob.mar...@excite.com> wrote:
> Stage 21 : Sep 19, San Sebastian de los Reyes - Madrid, 85 km
Does this GC result seem like a pile of odd names to anyone else? It's
weird to see guys like Menchov and Schleck down the listings. I know
this wasn't their goal race, but who here had the Nibali-Mosquera-
Velits podium? This race seems, er, undercontested.
> Top 10 and favourites GC standings (previous stage in parens) :
> 1 Vincenzo Nibali 87:18:31 (unchanged)
> 2 Ezequiel Mosquera 0:43 (was 2nd at 0:41)
> 3 Peter Velits 3:04 (was 3rd at 3:02)
> 4 Joaquin Rodriguez 4:22 (was 4th at 4:20)
> 5 Frank Schleck 4:45 (was 5th at 4:43)
> 6 Xavier Tondo 4:54 (was 6th at 4:52)
> 7 Nicholas Roche 5:05 (was 7th at 5:03)
> 8 Carlos Sastre 6:08 (was 8th at 6:06)
> 9 Tom Danielson 6:18 (was 9th at 6:09)
> 10 Luis-Leon Sanchez 7:44 (was 10th at 7:35)
> .....
> 16 Ruben Plaza 16:42 (was 16th at 16:40)
> .....
> 25 David Arroyo 35:29 (was 25th at 35:27)
> .....
> 28 Roman Kreuziger 38:45 (was 26th at 36:28)
> .....
> 41 Denis Menchov 1:13:44 (was 41st at 1:12:42)
> .....
> 59 Christian Vande Velde 1:52:49 (was 58th at 1:51:55)
> .....
> 76 Allan Davis 2:13:16 (was 77th at 2:13:26)
>
> Top 10 on Points table with previous in parens:
> 1 Mark Cavendish 156 (was 1st with 136 points)
> 2 Tyler Farrar 149 (was 2nd with 124 points)
> 3 Vincenzo Nibali 120 (was 3rd with 119 points)
> 4 Joaquin Rodriguez 110 (unchanged)
> 5 Philippe Gilbert 104 (unchanged)
> 6 Ezequiel Mosquera 97 (unchanged)
> 7 Peter Velits 88 (unchanged)
I'd also say that seeing the entire GC podium in the top 7 on points
suggests how shallow this contest was. Cav and Farrar showed up to
beat on each other, and that was it. In fairness, it's not like the
Vuelta points were ever something anyone took seriously, but this is a
GT!
> (This report can also be seen athttp://homepage.ntlworld.com/rvmartin2)
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