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Today's topics:
* Lance: the spurned bitch version - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/050880d49e5c50a8?hl=en
* Elisa Basso Gettin' All Liz Hatch - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/8f6b6d3c690d8013?hl=en
* They can't let Stephanie walk - 8 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/2a9dd27544347ea6?hl=en
* Cipollini critiques Bettini Worlds selection - 4 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/380440749a24010b?hl=en
* Pissing Off the US Attorney - 4 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/3d236ddd953f3a01?hl=en
* wise move by mini-phinney - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/20a1012d8aa3cf8a?hl=en
* Cease and Desist - 4 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/a6ac2b454b7174c1?hl=en
* Why to convict masturbation in Vatican ?-Jeff Coward.GOP - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/43964cc68122b46b?hl=en
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TOPIC: Lance: the spurned bitch version
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/050880d49e5c50a8?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 23 2010 10:28 pm
From: Uncle Dave
On Sep 23, 1:00 am, DA74 <davidasto...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> From CN:
>
> Despite his excitement for the future, Phinney is sad to be leaving
> behind the relationships he made at Trek-Livestrong over the last two
> years, including his friendship with Armstrong, who Phinney revealed,
> had broken off all communication ever since Ochowicz made his first
> offer.
>
> "I formed some really good bonds at Trek-Livestrong with the team and
> Lance and the riders - they were my family.
>
> "However, we had a chat with Lance, Bart Knaggs and Johan [Bruyneel]
> just to let them know that Jim had put in an offer and Lance had to
> leave half way because I think Senator Kerry was on the other line.
> I've tried to call, email and text and I've not really heard anything.
> I've talked to Bart Knaggs, who is at CSE (Capital Sports &
> Entertainment), and I'm sad that I've had to leave but I think they
> understand where I'm coming from.
That's the problem right there. He's not coming from anything, he's
*going to*, no wonder they're confused...
UD
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 4:21 pm
From: RicodJour
On Sep 23, 12:29 am, Ben Trovato <benn.trov...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Especially
> when you've already got 4 kids, a high-maintenance girlfriend, an ex-
> wife, and the 2nd worst shit-storm of your life barreling towards
> you...
Gee, when you put it that way, I'm almost glad I'm not him. Unless
he's banging both of the Olsen twins, and then I still want to be
him. Twins...
R
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TOPIC: Elisa Basso Gettin' All Liz Hatch
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/8f6b6d3c690d8013?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 1:56 am
From: "Beloved Fred No. 1"
Anton Berlin wrote:
>> nothing says whore louder than fake breasts
William Fred wrote:
> I think "You wanna suckeefuckee? Number 1 boom-boom $20." says it a lot
> louder than fake breasts.
Climatology conference in Wanking ?
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TOPIC: They can't let Stephanie walk
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/2a9dd27544347ea6?hl=en
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 6:10 am
From: Fred Flintstein
On 9/24/2010 12:16 AM, Keith wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:52:31 -0700, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
> <MikeJ@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
>
>> =======
>> "Bienert said McIlvain "testified truthfully. Most of what she was
>> asked about was between five and 14 years old, so she didn't have the
>> greatest recall. But she confirmed she had no personal knowledge of
>> Lance Armstrong using or taking performance-enhancing drugs.""
>
> Sounds like they're playing on words and going for a "technicality",
> i.e. hearing someone say they took drugs might not qualify according
> to them as "personal knowledge", unlike "I saw lab certified doping
> results that he had doped". I doubt they were amused...
Dumbass,
She can say anything she wants, they can't prove she's lying.
Fred Flintstein
== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 6:14 am
From: Fred Flintstein
On 9/23/2010 11:33 PM, Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> How long do you think it would be before perjury charges would be
> brought up? For best effect, I think it would have to be fairly soon.
The phone messages prove she lied to someone about something. It
doesn't prove to whom. If there are perjury charges it'll just
be for harassment.
Fred Flintstein
== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 12:44 pm
From: Brad Anders
On Sep 23, 9:33 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com>
wrote:
> How long do you think it would be before perjury charges would be
> brought up? For best effect, I think it would have to be fairly soon.
IMO, wasting time charging and prosecuring her isn't a priority for
the "get Lance!" team. Why waste ammo on small fry when you've got the
prize in your sights?
Brad Anders
== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 7:01 pm
From: "Mike Jacoubowsky"
"Brad Anders" <pbanders@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:66c7a341-0b2c-4ec8-aa42-f9f0ecb4b838@q40g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 23, 9:33 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com>
wrote:
> How long do you think it would be before perjury charges would be
> brought up? For best effect, I think it would have to be fairly soon.
========
IMO, wasting time charging and prosecuring her isn't a priority for
the "get Lance!" team. Why waste ammo on small fry when you've got the
prize in your sights?
Brad Anders
========
Brad: The issue with Stephanie is that it's the best publicly-documented
he-said she-said thing out there. Everybody knows about it, and in the
absence of any hard physical evidence, the entire case is going to hinge on
he-said she-said stuff. It has been assumed that people would be coerced to
testify (I say "coerced" because if they'd wanted to talk about this stuff
previously, they would have) due to the legal ramifications of denying that
you know something that the prosecutor thinks you do. So they offer
immunity. But immunity is not such a huge deal if the bear has no teeth, and
if the bear doesn't go after Stephanie...
If I were Novitsky, I'd be throwing everything at Stephanie. No way would I
let her walk away claiming she doesn't recall, or she has no recollection of
any conversation in which Lance said he had taken PEDs. That's not the sort
of conversation you'd forget. If you don't go after her, you're giving
credibility to her version of the story, and letting everyone else know they
can say or not say whatever they want.
Her testimony cannot go unchallenged. Novitsky's no dummy, so I suspect
something will come of this.
--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 7:17 pm
From: Fred
On Sep 24, 8:01 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com>
wrote:
> "Brad Anders" <pband...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:66c7a341-0b2c-4ec8-aa42-f9f0ecb4b838@q40g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 23, 9:33 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com>
> wrote:
>
> > How long do you think it would be before perjury charges would be
> > brought up? For best effect, I think it would have to be fairly soon.
>
> ========
> IMO, wasting time charging and prosecuring her isn't a priority for
> the "get Lance!" team. Why waste ammo on small fry when you've got the
> prize in your sights?
>
> Brad Anders
> ========
>
> Brad: The issue with Stephanie is that it's the best publicly-documented
> he-said she-said thing out there. Everybody knows about it, and in the
> absence of any hard physical evidence, the entire case is going to hinge on
> he-said she-said stuff. It has been assumed that people would be coerced to
> testify (I say "coerced" because if they'd wanted to talk about this stuff
> previously, they would have) due to the legal ramifications of denying that
> you know something that the prosecutor thinks you do. So they offer
> immunity. But immunity is not such a huge deal if the bear has no teeth, and
> if the bear doesn't go after Stephanie...
>
> If I were Novitsky, I'd be throwing everything at Stephanie. No way would I
> let her walk away claiming she doesn't recall, or she has no recollection of
> any conversation in which Lance said he had taken PEDs. That's not the sort
> of conversation you'd forget. If you don't go after her, you're giving
> credibility to her version of the story, and letting everyone else know they
> can say or not say whatever they want.
>
> Her testimony cannot go unchallenged. Novitsky's no dummy, so I suspect
> something will come of this.
>
> --Mike Jacoubowsky
> Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReaction.com
> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
You're right, Novitsky is no dummy, which is why he won't go after
her. She's previously testified under oath that she had no direct
knowledge of LA taking PEDs. She's now testified under oath that she
has no direct knowledge of LA using PEDs. She gave a perfectly
believable, albeit lame, excuse for why she told others she heard LA
talk about taking PEDs when in fact she had not direct knowledge of
him taking PEDs. None of her conversations re: knowing that LA used
PEDs were under oath, and if she claims now that she was just BS'ing
all along, that's not exactly illegal.
So, unless Novitsky has definitive proof she DID have direct knowledge
of LA using PEDs, how can he possibly prove perjury? AND, if he has
definitive proof that she has direct knowledge of LA using PEDs, this
whole thing would be over 'cause he'd have proof of LA using PEDs.
If he can not at this time prove LA used PEDs, how could he possibly
prove that she knew about him using PEDs?
The only way she gets charged for perjury is if they eventually prove
LA used PEDs AND during the course of the remainder of the
investigation it becomes clear she knew, then he goes after her.
Fred
== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 7:57 pm
From: Fredmaster of Brainerd
On Sep 24, 7:01 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com>
wrote:
>
> Brad: The issue with Stephanie is that it's the best publicly-documented
> he-said she-said thing out there. Everybody knows about it, and in the
> absence of any hard physical evidence, the entire case is going to hinge on
> he-said she-said stuff. It has been assumed that people would be coerced to
> testify (I say "coerced" because if they'd wanted to talk about this stuff
> previously, they would have) due to the legal ramifications of denying that
> you know something that the prosecutor thinks you do. So they offer
> immunity. But immunity is not such a huge deal if the bear has no teeth, and
> if the bear doesn't go after Stephanie...
>
> If I were Novitsky, I'd be throwing everything at Stephanie. No way would I
> let her walk away claiming she doesn't recall, or she has no recollection of
> any conversation in which Lance said he had taken PEDs. That's not the sort
> of conversation you'd forget. If you don't go after her, you're giving
> credibility to her version of the story, and letting everyone else know they
> can say or not say whatever they want.
>
> Her testimony cannot go unchallenged. Novitsky's no dummy, so I suspect
> something will come of this.
Novitsky is an investigator. He is not the prosecutor.
I assume he works closely with the prosecutors, but
Novitsky will not make decisions about whom to
indict. (The tendency to personify the investigation and
prosecution as all-Novitsky makes me think he really does
have a good press agent.) A prosecutor will make those
decisions and it probably will be based largely on whether
the prosecutor thinks the case can be won. Indictments
can be tactical, but in general, prosecutors don't bring
cases if they don't think they can win - losing makes them
look bad and gives their bosses a bad impression.
Indictments are likely to be based on gathering most
or all of the grand jury testimony and seeing what can
support a case; I kind of doubt that you will see the
prosecutors turn around and indict McIlvain now,
right away.
If you think back to the Scooter Libby case, there was a
long investigation, lots of testimony, and all sorts of
overheated speculation about who would be indicted
before Patrick Fitzgerald finally returned indictments
against Libby. Liberals speculated Rove would be
indicted (Fitzgerald didn't think he could prove that in the
end) and conservatives speculated Joe Wilson would be
indicted (Yes, this really was speculated).
Fredmaster Ben
== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 8:01 pm
From: Fredmaster of Brainerd
On Sep 23, 9:33 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com>
wrote:
>
> Whatever she did, she did with the advice of very-well-paid legal
> counsel; it was not a decision she made on her own. In you're into
> conspiracies (I'm suggesting that's a question and not a statement of
> fact???) then your next move is to suggest that she's being promised the
> moon by Oakley to protect Lance, basically taking the bullet for the
> team. A high-stakes gamble that could either derail the entire process
> (no perjury charges brought to bear on her, emboldening others to "not
> recall" thing) or, if that fails, put her away for a while (with a
> promise of significant compensation for her, er, work).
>
> It could work.
I doubt that any responsible legal counsel for Oakley
would touch that with a hundred-foot pole. They could
easily arrange for her to have as good legal advice as
they can afford, but any quid pro quo for testimony
risks sending all of upper management within the
blast radius to jail.
Fredmaster Ben
== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 9:56 pm
From: "Mike Jacoubowsky"
"Fredmaster of Brainerd" <bjweiner@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:24fcf06c-1a1f-43b7-9220-e7fb69f5e5f7@g6g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 23, 9:33 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com>
wrote:
>
> Whatever she did, she did with the advice of very-well-paid legal
> counsel; it was not a decision she made on her own. In you're into
> conspiracies (I'm suggesting that's a question and not a statement of
> fact???) then your next move is to suggest that she's being promised
> the
> moon by Oakley to protect Lance, basically taking the bullet for the
> team. A high-stakes gamble that could either derail the entire process
> (no perjury charges brought to bear on her, emboldening others to "not
> recall" thing) or, if that fails, put her away for a while (with a
> promise of significant compensation for her, er, work).
>
> It could work.
=========
I doubt that any responsible legal counsel for Oakley
would touch that with a hundred-foot pole. They could
easily arrange for her to have as good legal advice as
they can afford, but any quid pro quo for testimony
risks sending all of upper management within the
blast radius to jail.
Fredmaster Ben
=========
You're not into conspiracies like some. Relax your standards a bit. It
makes the normal mundane day-to-day stuff more interesting.
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
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TOPIC: Cipollini critiques Bettini Worlds selection
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/380440749a24010b?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 7:59 am
From: TheCoz
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bettini-rejects-cipollinis-worlds-criticism
I think Bettini's section is good. Could anyone else pick a more
suitable sprinter?
I'm unsure how he knows Cav won't make it threw. Besides, I think
Cavendish is not mature enough to carry the Rainbow strips for now.
Maybe in a few more years he can represent them with a better
attitude.
Coz
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 9:13 am
From: LawBoy01
On Sep 24, 9:59 am, TheCoz <cycled...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bettini-rejects-cipollinis-worlds-cri...
>
> I think Bettini's section is good. Could anyone else pick a more
> suitable sprinter?
> I'm unsure how he knows Cav won't make it threw. Besides, I think
> Cavendish is not mature enough to carry the Rainbow strips for now.
> Maybe in a few more years he can represent them with a better
> attitude.
> Coz
There seems to be a disagreement whether this race is more akin to
Amstel Gold than Milan-San Remo. Some teams are ditching sprinters
for all-rounders out of fear that the number of climbs over the number
of laps will wear out a sprinter. I personally am convinced that this
race will be won out of a bunch sprint. We'll see.
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 9:17 am
From: Fred
On Sep 24, 8:59 am, TheCoz <cycled...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bettini-rejects-cipollinis-worlds-cri...
>
> I think Bettini's section is good. Could anyone else pick a more
> suitable sprinter?
> I'm unsure how he knows Cav won't make it threw. Besides, I think
> Cavendish is not mature enough to carry the Rainbow strips for now.
> Maybe in a few more years he can represent them with a better
> attitude.
> Coz
Well, he was an incredibly successful classics rider who has ridden
the course, so if he thinks Cav can't make it to the end, I'd say his
opinion is probably pretty valid.
Fred
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 9:27 am
From: Fred Flintstein
On 9/24/2010 11:17 AM, Fred wrote:
> On Sep 24, 8:59 am, TheCoz<cycled...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bettini-rejects-cipollinis-worlds-cri...
>>
>> I think Bettini's section is good. Could anyone else pick a more
>> suitable sprinter?
>> I'm unsure how he knows Cav won't make it threw. Besides, I think
>> Cavendish is not mature enough to carry the Rainbow strips for now.
>> Maybe in a few more years he can represent them with a better
>> attitude.
>> Coz
>
> Well, he was an incredibly successful classics rider who has ridden
> the course, so if he thinks Cav can't make it to the end, I'd say his
> opinion is probably pretty valid.
>
> Fred
It's also true that if Cav makes it to the end he doesn't have anyone
to compete with him. So part of that assessment is a realization that
he has to do what he can to make sure that Cav is not at the front
at the end.
Fred Flintstein
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TOPIC: Pissing Off the US Attorney
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/3d236ddd953f3a01?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 9:24 am
From: BLafferty
On 9/23/2010 11:17 PM, LawBoy01 wrote:
> On Sep 23, 10:40 am, BLafferty<Br...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> On 9/23/2010 8:46 AM, LawBoy01 wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 23, 6:09 am, BLafferty<Br...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>> Well, according to McIlvain's lawyer, she told the grand jury she never
>>>> heard what Betsy and Frankie heard Lance say. Her lawyer's explanation
>>>> that she was just gossiping with friends like Greg, Betsy, and Staart
>>>> doesn't sound very plausible. IMO, she's made a foolish decision to
>>>> circle her wagon with Lance and friends. Look for a perjury indictment
>>>> down the road. Note to Lance, Stephanie just gave the US Attorney a
>>>> really good hard on for you. Better lube up. Tell Fabio to make a drug
>>>> store run.
>>
>>> Hey stupid ass Lafferty:
>>
>>> You may be right about the perjury stuff, but McIllvain's testimony
>>> has jack shit to do with USPS-Tailwind.
>>
>>> Go choke on a dick and die,
>>
>>> Philip
>>
>> You are quite the silver tongued counsel, aren't you? You're also an
>> asshole. But, you knew that.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Laffsoncock,
>
> Have you ever considered that I just don't like you? Sometimes I'm an
> asshole to people that I don't like, and you're just one of those
> people. Your views on Lance really aren't that different from
> Anton's, and I get along with him just fine. My issues with you are
> that you find one thing to talk about all the time, and that you act
> as though your opinions are indisputable facts held together with
> irrebutable reasoning. When coupled with your tendency to wear the
> robe of the judge, the badge of the jury foreman, and the hood of the
> executioner, those issues lead me to believe that you are an asshole,
> which is why I'm always pissing on your leg when I'm not kicking you
> in the ass.
>
> F.O.D.,
>
> Philip
A FuckWit plus an asshole by admission. LOL!!
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 9:40 am
From: LawBoy01
On Sep 24, 11:24 am, BLafferty <Br...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On 9/23/2010 11:17 PM, LawBoy01 wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 23, 10:40 am, BLafferty<Br...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >> On 9/23/2010 8:46 AM, LawBoy01 wrote:
>
> >>> On Sep 23, 6:09 am, BLafferty<Br...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >>>> Well, according to McIlvain's lawyer, she told the grand jury she never
> >>>> heard what Betsy and Frankie heard Lance say. Her lawyer's explanation
> >>>> that she was just gossiping with friends like Greg, Betsy, and Staart
> >>>> doesn't sound very plausible. IMO, she's made a foolish decision to
> >>>> circle her wagon with Lance and friends. Look for a perjury indictment
> >>>> down the road. Note to Lance, Stephanie just gave the US Attorney a
> >>>> really good hard on for you. Better lube up. Tell Fabio to make a drug
> >>>> store run.
>
> >>> Hey stupid ass Lafferty:
>
> >>> You may be right about the perjury stuff, but McIllvain's testimony
> >>> has jack shit to do with USPS-Tailwind.
>
> >>> Go choke on a dick and die,
>
> >>> Philip
>
> >> You are quite the silver tongued counsel, aren't you? You're also an
> >> asshole. But, you knew that.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Laffsoncock,
>
> > Have you ever considered that I just don't like you? Sometimes I'm an
> > asshole to people that I don't like, and you're just one of those
> > people. Your views on Lance really aren't that different from
> > Anton's, and I get along with him just fine. My issues with you are
> > that you find one thing to talk about all the time, and that you act
> > as though your opinions are indisputable facts held together with
> > irrebutable reasoning. When coupled with your tendency to wear the
> > robe of the judge, the badge of the jury foreman, and the hood of the
> > executioner, those issues lead me to believe that you are an asshole,
> > which is why I'm always pissing on your leg when I'm not kicking you
> > in the ass.
>
> > F.O.D.,
>
> > Philip
>
> A FuckWit plus an asshole by admission. LOL!!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
FuckWit maybe, no asshole by admission.
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 4:17 pm
From: RicodJour
On Sep 24, 12:24 pm, BLafferty <Br...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
> A FuckWit plus an asshole by admission. LOL!!
Right. You're not an asshole or a FuckWit because you don't admit
it. LOL!!
Barry, you aren't even one-dimensional. You're the singularity of all
that is asshole. Bask in it.
I'll stay out of this table tennis thread...sorry for intruding. Just
wanted to point something out.
R
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 8:11 pm
From: 01BoyLaw
On Sep 24, 4:17 pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 24, 12:24 pm, BLafferty <Br...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > A FuckWit plus an asshole by admission. LOL!!
>
> Right. You're not an asshole or a FuckWit because you don't admit
> it. LOL!!
>
> Barry, you aren't even one-dimensional. You're the singularity of all
> that is asshole. Bask in it.
>
> I'll stay out of this table tennis thread...sorry for intruding. Just
> wanted to point something out.
>
> R
I hate Laughurty.
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TOPIC: wise move by mini-phinney
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/20a1012d8aa3cf8a?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 11:43 am
From: --D-y
On Sep 24, 12:11 am, Keith <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:12:08 -0700 (PDT), --D-y <dustoyev...@mac.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Sep 22, 2:31Êpm, BLafferty <Br...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >> On 9/22/2010 2:23 PM, bar wrote:>http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/phinney-explains-decision-to-sign-wit...
>
> >> > get as far away from LANCE as you can ...
>
> >> > -b-
>
> >> > p.s. LANCE is a dick
>
> >> Very smart decision.
>
> >Now he's in with Hincapie and Ochowitz.
>
> >Doesn't sound like very many degrees of separation, here.
> >--D-y
>
> Not to mention John Lelangue and the Phonak dude, Rijs ? The guys who
> let Landis play with fire.
Son of Robt. Lelangue who worked with and for Merckx. And you know
what that means...
Well, at least we're getting our Pecking Order of Evil sorted out to
some extent here.
--D-y
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TOPIC: Cease and Desist
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/a6ac2b454b7174c1?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 8:15 pm
From: 01BoyLaw
I hate everyone in here who isn't like me. So, if you're not like me,
get out and never come back. What should I do to make people be more
like me so I'll have more friends? I have friends but not as many as
I'd like. By the way, if you're not an attorney, then don't respond.
With All My Love,
01BoyLaw
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 8:26 pm
From: DirtRoadie
On Sep 24, 9:15 pm, 01BoyLaw <law.bo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I hate everyone in here who isn't like me. So, if you're not like me,
> get out and never come back. What should I do to make people be more
> like me so I'll have more friends? I have friends but not as many as
> I'd like. By the way, if you're not an attorney, then don't respond.
>
> With All My Love,
> 01BoyLaw
Brian-
You probably should avoid using a name for posting that is likely to
cause confusion with a poster that already uses a distinctive name. It
could get you in trouble.
See 15 USC 1125.
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 8:33 pm
From: Fred
On Sep 24, 9:26 pm, DirtRoadie <DirtRoa...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Sep 24, 9:15 pm, 01BoyLaw <law.bo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I hate everyone in here who isn't like me. So, if you're not like me,
> > get out and never come back. What should I do to make people be more
> > like me so I'll have more friends? I have friends but not as many as
> > I'd like. By the way, if you're not an attorney, then don't respond.
>
> > With All My Love,
> > 01BoyLaw
>
> Brian-
> You probably should avoid using a name for posting that is likely to
> cause confusion with a poster that already uses a distinctive name. It
> could get you in trouble.
> See 15 USC 1125.
Oh, gee, what are all the Freds gonna do?
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 9:29 pm
From: DirtRoadie
On Sep 24, 9:33 pm, Fred <fred.gar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sep 24, 9:26 pm, DirtRoadie <DirtRoa...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sep 24, 9:15 pm, 01BoyLaw <law.bo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I hate everyone in here who isn't like me. So, if you're not like me,
> > > get out and never come back. What should I do to make people be more
> > > like me so I'll have more friends? I have friends but not as many as
> > > I'd like. By the way, if you're not an attorney, then don't respond.
>
> > > With All My Love,
> > > 01BoyLaw
>
> > Brian-
> > You probably should avoid using a name for posting that is likely to
> > cause confusion with a poster that already uses a distinctive name. It
> > could get you in trouble.
> > See 15 USC 1125.
>
> Oh, gee, what are all the Freds gonna do?
No worries. That's a "generic" term.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark#Distinctive_character
DR
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Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 10:51 pm
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Why to convict masturbation in Vatican ?-Jeff Coward.GOP
Of course, only for promoting paedophilia,
making other singles, as future priests !
making other victims, which will spend psyco-medicine,
other sicks, which will give money to Catholics Hospitals !
Why promoting the original sin Idea, by Rabbis ?
Only for catching devotees : a simple commercial invention, for making
money !!!
Thanks to your offers to Vatican, they will can buy other condoms, for
paedophiles, avoinding dangerous infections to children !!!!
Very philanthropic intentions !!!!!
Please avoiding any publicity about this sexual our activity since
Costantinus Imperator, with millions of chindren loved by us: go and fuck
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Top Secret
Your Archbishop
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Don't vote for Jews and Catholics, to parliament !!!!
Israel already collapsed 2 WTC towers by bombs
and struck Pentagon by missile, only for making money, much money !!!
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Is GOP-Israel Lodge making jobles, Jeff Coward???or Killer ?
Not only Coward, but also Chief, Cheat, Tainter !
Jeff Moseley, is your SATANIC MOSSAD'S LODGE,
making jobless on the US ???
Jeff and Cody, do you spread infections and lethal ticks
on the Americans inventors, for making Jobless ?
Are your SATANIC Lodge Under LONDON-MOSSAD's AntiChrist,
come up from Hell ?
MOSSAD's Satanic Lodge in Houston - TX !!!
Is Bish on the hands of Antichrists ?
ISRAEL-GOP plan, against US ?
Israeli Satanic Lodge with Cody Sutton & C. ?
http://www.houston.org/greater-houston-partnership/about-us/staff.asp
What can you say, Jeff Moseley ?
Who is the responsible of MOSSAD, you have as boss ?
Zionists plan, pro-Israel, in ACCORD WITH a Secret GOP-Lodge
of Satanists VIP from Houston - Texas !:
NASA must rob any invention, worldwide, and use any invention by MOSSAD
agents, BLOCKING ANY EFFECTIVE INDUSTRIAL UTILIZATION.
How ?
The phisycian Cody Sutton (or Coward SATAN ?) by SATAN-LODGE,
is charged to kill or paralyse anyn inventor, by
means of bacteriua or ticks, thanks to escorts or prostitutes.
Sutton infected the Eng. Romano De Simone by some effective paralyzing
ticks.
Very very very intelligent system !!!!!!!!!!..... effective for
PARALYZING OVER 30 AMERICAN INDUSTRIAL FIELDS OF THE SPALIC
TECHNOLOGY .
In detail :
NASA have an office in Russia, by an idea of Bush-Cheny pair, where hide
the good technologies, AVAILABLE FOR the ECONOMICAL GROWTH OF US.
NASA's diverted Lodge ( pro-Israel - RUSSIA . The russian jews in Israel
are about 500.000 people)
must rob any invention, and block, fighing the poor inventors. How and
Why ?
1) Because the inventor is the SPRING of technology and the SPRING of
American Prosperity.
(How ?:
A Criminal Phisician as boss of Industrals Association of HOUSTON : Cody
Sutton.
Decided by NASA-MOSSAD_RUSSIA association !!!
In accord with Bush and Cheney !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
2) Without prosperity is impossible to have a good army.
3) Without a good army, will win the great Banking Treasure : ISRAEL,
the GREAT ISRAEL !!!
Hurrahhhh for ISRAEL, fame over the GLOBE.
4) Without a good army, is impossible, TO BOMB ISRAEL !!!
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The first steps of the PLAN :
A) The 9/11 attacks, by 3000 bombs into the 3 towers (3 is the
perfect number of jewishes).
and by a missile against Pentagon, from a Dolphine Israeli Submarine.
B) The spreading of SubPrime Loans, in all US.
C) The withdrawl of 500 billions $ from the US banks , at 9/18 of 2008,
sparking of the GLOBAL ECONOMICAL CRISIS.
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1° Step of a good plot)
About September 13-15 2001, in Rome, Romano De Simone was talking with
Vittorio Halfon, High Level Jew of international influence, agent of
Israel.
"Your opinion was correct, Romano, were the our AGENTS in NYC
(The WTC's Authors). They are geniuses. Few thousands of dead, for
making many millions dollars, accusing Arabs. Wall Street collapses,
but they it rayse up again."
2° Step of a good plot)
Spreading in hole US the Subprime Loans, and ROBBING the inventions,
this is the SPRINGS OF THE prosperity of America, inclusive SPALIC of
Romano De Simone (www.spalic.com), having dozens utilizations,
from the sanitary until spatial fields.
3° Step of a good plot)
Withdrawing of 500 billion dollars from the US's banks during 2 hours,
at September, 18 2008, for sparking off a global economical crisis
against American Workers, and dominating worldwide.
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With the 11 September 2001, for the first time in the history, a
militar attack BY A LOT OF BOMB, had become a film.
How all the world it has been able to see, the tele-camera to take back the
scene, did'nt be trotting, as when it happens an unexpected event, but
were
well supported on the ground, waiting to arrival of the airplanes, of which
were AWARE only the organizers of the attack, and no-one else on the
world.
But who were these art directors, very very special?
On signaling of a lady, that had seen three men shooting the scene, very
happy
and smiling and for nothing shocked, from a white van, of which she had
taken the plate, the police has verified that:
1) The van was property of an Israeli company : the "Urban Moving System".
2) After detained the van many hours after, had halted the police five mens
among the 22 and the 27 years, which one had in pocket 4700 dollars, that
were able be only the remuneration of the film.
3) The driver of the van was such Sivan Kurzberg, and the other were Paul
Kurzberg, Yaron Samuel, Oded Ellner and Omer Marmari, who resulted all
Israeli citizens.
4) The Jewish daily paper of New York has brought that two mens of them, in
accordance with the FBI, were agents of the Israeli intelligence.
The URBAN MOVING SYSTEM company, owner of the van, it is resulted of
ownership of the Israel state.
The administrator of the URBAN MOVING SYSTEM company, Dominick Otto Suter,
year 1970, whose Social Security Number is 129-78-0926, he escaped in Israel
the same day 11-September-2001.
Three months after the attack at two towers, a troupe of the television net
ABC has shot inside the offices of the URBAN MOVING SYSTEM
company: they appeared deserted in a great hurry, even with objects of
ownership of the customers of company.
The URBAN MOVING SYSTEM company were missing.
It's possible to conclude saying that the responsibility of the attacks at
two towers are not of the Israel government ?.
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THE COINCIDENCES:
The two falling towers, have been filmed exclusively by hebrews from Israel.
The boss of this group has escaped in Israel, the same day 11 septembers
2001.
The two towers belong to an Hebrew, that had to it demolish, for cause of
asbestos that there was contained.
The unique world organizations, which having the fit structures to organize
this attack, are the freemasonries, which are by exclusively control of
hebrews.
The americans, Jewish and not, at this stage, have the investigating duty,
the going out from the generic and unproved accusations, of terrorism from
Arabic matrix.
A Bin Laden that himself accused, it shows absolutely nothing : he has been
paid to do it.
He has been paid to do spread a planetary war, of America against the arabs,
that serves only to ISRAEL, as the Iraq war.
STRUCK ROMANO DE SIMONE , only because they want STRUCKING any
inventor working for AMERICA = THEY WANT CLOSE ALLLLL SPRINGS of
technolgy and PROSPERITY OF AMERICA.
THEY WANT THE REIGN OF ZIONIST DREAM OVER THE GLOBE.
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QUESTIONS
How to be possible you believe to a Bin Laden, only because himself accuses,
while the organizers are able to be only the Israeli ART-DIRECTORS
fortuitously discovered, by the police, or their friends ?
Nobody can exclude that Bin Laden is one of this friends of Israel !
NOBODY CAN EXCLUDE BIN LADEN IS UNDER THE MOSSAD'S STRATEGY !!!!!!
Why nobody have the valor to asking the necessary investigating
on Israel and his friends ?
How to be possible it you mines two towers, with thousands of kilos of
explosive, without the helping of owner of two towers ?
WHY THE HALTED ISRAELIS WERE AS HAPPY,
WHILE THEY WERE SEING TO EXPLODE AND COLLAPSE
THE W-T-C TWO TOWERS ?
It needs verify if such they happiness, documented by they-self,
with the photos that they same have done, was connected to the
fact that THEIR WORK HAD MADE VERY WELL, as from same excellent engineers.
PERHAPS TRANSPORTING THE EXPLOSIVE MATERIAL WITH THEIR MINIBUS:
what heavy work !!!!.
In such case they deserves the engineering degree, "ONORIS CAUSA".
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But they can ever demonstrate that all these technical conclusions
are false,
and the clear truth is all other things, THE DEAR BOYS !!!
THE ISRAELI BOYS SURELY WILL GIVE AMPLE EXPLICATIONS,
ABOUT THEIR COMPLETE INNOCENCE !!!
Dr. Eng. Romano De Simone,
Consultant of Appeal Court of ROME and
INVENTOR of SPALIC ( www.spalic.com )
SPALIC, COPIED BY
Bionomic Industries Inc, from NJ
FBI, where are you ?
Italian Mechanical Engineer of 64 - ROME - ITALY
+39-339-6109258
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Israel, Cancer in US Prosperity ?
Israel and Vatican, secret alliance,
is THIS the very CANCER in US Prosperity ?
The incredible PLOT of Israel, made also by attracting the strategic
companies,
into Tel Aviv TAX HAVEN,
where died the AMERICAN DREAM, of ISRAELI CANCER.
American Jews, please make a step back towards Helping Israel.
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Cheney, no to AntiChrists from Israel !
No to Catholic persons, while reigns a secret AntiChtist Alliance
Vatican-Israel !
Boy, Girl, don't vote Jews or Catholic priests, or persons close or united
them !
Jews and Catholic person are working making JOBless ?
Sure !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Missile on Pentagon ? BOMB ISRAEL !!!!
From which army has arrived the missile of the Pentagon ?
Is a ISRELI-Jewish Dolphin submarine where they flung the missile from
?
Israel continues avoiding any ANSWER, to do MILITARY CLEARNESS.
On Tel Aviv, 6 ISRAELI VIPersons ARE OWNER OF 90%
OF RUSSIAN INDUSTRIES AND MINES,
thanks to money helping of America, and Lord Rotschild, who must
be paid back, or not ?.
Lord ROTSCHILD is the BOSS of ISRAEL ?
ISRAEL is the BOSS of AMERICA ?
Thanks to the ECONOMICAL CRISIS, the answer is : YES !!!!
CRISIS OF BUSH ?
NO !!!
CRISIS OF ISRAEL !!!!
America needs TO BOMB ISRAEL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by
BOMBS type WTC and MISSILE type PENTAGON
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VATICAN & ISRAEL = a Satanic Union ?
VATICAN & ISRAEL, united in a SATANIC UNION (+ Russia ?), for
CONQUERING the GLOBE ?
The greatest DREAM of ZIONISTS from RUSSIA ?
Two or Three Agents, united for only One GLOBAL CRISIS ?
For robbing to America the Center of New Technologies : The INVENTION
and the INVENTORS, in any legal system and by means of the ALL
DISLOYAL SYSTEMS.
An example : The SPALIC Process (System Putification Air (and gases)
for Lavage In Compression, of an US company from Florida (GOOD FOR
30 UTILIZATIONS), is utilized without an authentic Patent (and BLOCKED
FOR 29 UTILIZATIONS), by the Bionomic Industries Inc from NJ, by
paying fraudulent royalties to an Italian company in Milan, by Mario
Scaramella,
partner of Berlusconi,
thanks to Israel and Vatican FRAUDS ?.
Why 5 Jews did be arrested, in NYC, at September, 11 2001 ?
Why the airplane against Pentagone was without wings ?
Why at September, 18 2008 Israel and Vatican Banks did withdraw
500 billions dollars in US banks, within 2 hours ?
What does do Bildeberg Group ? (Israel + Vatican + Russia ?)
What does do Rotay Club ? (US)
What does do Lions Club ? (US)
What does do AIPAC ? (US)
What does do the Knights of Malta ? (Great Britain)
Why the Jews Lobby in the US, controls the 75 % of the US Senators
?
Where is the freedom of the US citizens ?
Why IS IS BLOCKED THE MILITARY CHANGE BY OBAMA ?
Till WHEN, the US workers, WILL MUST SUFFER the GLOBAL POWER
OF THE SATANIC UNION ISRAEL-VATICAN ?
(Vatican = not only paedophilia, but also technology, espionage and
much money and strategy power, by means of over 10.000 hospitals in
whole world).
(Israel = not only 3.000 bombs for WTC of NYC and missile for
Pentagon, but also Coffins (Afghanistan and Iraq), Rubbles
(Palestinians), Blackmails & Murders by Infections of viruses and
Parasites (Inventors & NASA), Fires (California), Blacke Tides (Louisiana
and others), Technologies with Espionage and much money and strategy
power.
Is IRAN also, a good strategic argument for HIDING THE TRUTH
????????!!!!!!!!!!
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Obama's and Bernanke, (and the honest Jews of America) efforts
can't SOLVE THE ECONOMICAL TRAP
BUILT BY ISRAEL & VATICAN SATANIC ACCORD !!!!!............
ONE ONLY IS THE SOLUTION FOR THE ECONOMICAL CRISIS :
1) Eliminating the most danger for the FREEDOM OF THE WHOLE
WORLD.
2) UNBLOCKING THE ECONOMICAL CRISIS AND THE MILITARY CHANGE BY
OBAMA.
I were a very very very catholic men....
DEFRAUDED BY VATICAN AND ISRAEL RUSSIAN MAFIA
Each Catholic person needs a NEW RELIGION.
Aki
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Don't Vote 4 Jews & Christians !-SAVE Springs !
Since 1950 until 2000 were the inventions and the Patents from NASA,
the very first horse of the National Prosperity of the US,
and the locomotor of the train of the global economy
Now this horse and this locomotor are without water, of inventions and
patents !
Who is the GREAT ROBBER ????
Who is the KILLER OF THE US-PROSPERITY AND THE GLOBAL ECONOMY ?
Are Jews and Priests the robbers of INVENTIONS, that is the
TECHNICAL SPRINGs of the US - Industrial Welfare : NASA.
They are ROBBING THE PROSPERITY ABD THE PROGRESS.
Americans, don't vote for candidate with Relatives, or Partners, as
Jews or Catholic
Priests !!!!
Americans, LET REFUSE THE JEWISH and Catholic POWER ON THE SENATE
!!!
Americans, ONLY in this way, YOUR NEXT CLEAN VOTE, done by you,
CAN
RESOLVE THE ECONOMICAL CRISIS !!!
The SATANIC BOSS OF ROBBERS IS ON ISRAEL AND VATICAN, UNITED !!!!
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THE SATANIC UNION BETWEEN ISRAEL AND VATICAN IS RESPONSIBLE OF
CRISIS.?
WHI NOT ?
CICERUS
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CRISIS ? Is solution to BOMB Israel ?!
The only country which is in financial wellness, is ISRAEL
(near its secret allied RUSSIAN MAFFIA),
the VERY RESPONSIBLE of the worldwide bad economy,
TODAY author of the US-BIGGEST CRACK !!!
Is in the hands of Israel (and Russian MAFFFIA)
the TECH SPRING of the US - Industrial Welfare : NASA.
A SATANIC, secret International Vatican-ISRAELI-(Russian) LODGE,
is blocking this prosperity SPRING ????????!!! .
Any prosperity STREAM from the SPRING PLACE is DIVERTED into
ISRAEL !!!!
Millions of unemployed have economiccal tragedies in family, on the US
and in the whole world:
Of course: If Israelis men are holding the US's economy SPRING of
NASA ORGANIZATION,
, who IS the
UNIQUE RESPONSIBLE of the ECONOMIC CRACK of US ?
Remember that 6 VIP of Israel
are owners of 90% of Russia, in mines and factories.
Have interest, the 6 VIP, in helping RUSSIA, or US ?
Did do the 6 VIP, any process to 5 Israelis men,
arrested by FBI, at 11 September on NYC, while they was laughing,
as proved by their photos, where are laughing as crazies,
on the backgroung of WTC collapsing ?
Did have interest, the 6 VIP of ISRAEL, on flinging a missile
against
Pentagon ?
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ANY NASA CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION TROPHY ?
- ON 2005 YEAR TOSHIBA WAS divulged a new to newspapers
on the distribution for selling of a FACTORY OF COLD FUSION
BATTERY on the US.
- AFTER FEW DAYS THEY KILLED THE BOSS OF THE STAFF,
by a GUNSHOT.
- SO THEY CLOSED ANY EXPECTATION OF the
NOT-OIL ENERGY FUTURE !!
ON THIS WAY THE PRO-ISRAELI OIL MAGNATE are warming the GLOBE,
SCATTERING Death of Animals, Plants, and Persons,
and DAMAGING Unites States of America !
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Where are coffins and blood, is there also Israel ?
Is ISRAEL the strongest allied of United States ?
Is ISRAEL the SHAME allied of United States, which despices the human
rights ?
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Missile on Pentagon ? BOMB ISRAEL !!!!
From which army has arrived the missile of the Pentagon ?
Is a ISRELI-Jewish Dolphin submarine where they flung the missile from
?
Israel continues avoiding any ANSWER, to do MILITARY CLEARNESS.
On Tel Aviv, 6 ISRAELI VIPersons ARE OWNER OF 90%
OF RUSSIAN INDUSTRIES AND MINES,
thanks to money helping of America, and Lord Rotschild, who must
be paid back, or not ?.
Lord ROTSCHILD is the BOSS of ISRAEL ?
ISRAEL is the BOSS of AMERICA ?
Thanks to the ECONOMICAL CRISIS, the answer is : YES !!!!
CRISIS OF BUSH ?
NO !!!
CRISIS OF ISRAEL !!!!
America needs TO BOMB ISRAEL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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McCain, Jewish is the Missile on Pentagon ?
Oh ! : Very religious weapons !
As Atomic "experience" of Hiroshima ?
As The second worldwide war ?
As the prime worldwide war ?
As the persecution of Christians in the Antique Rome ?
As the fire of Rome, under the Queen Jew Poppea ?
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DO YOU LIKE, AIPAC, ISRAEL state as the greatest IMPERIUM on
the globe ?
DON'T YOU SEE, AIPAC, the IMPERIAL SHAMES of Israel on the
HUMAN RIGHTS ?
DID YOU FORGET, AIPAC, the massacre of 3000 people of WTC -
September 11, 2001 ?
3000 murdered by 5 ISRAELIS from TEL AVIV !!!
Why Jewish Lobby is KEEPING the AMERICAN SENATE, against to
uncover the truth ?
Why Jewish Lobby and VATICAN are keeping the ISRAELI AND RUSSIAN
MAFIA, hidden at the TECHNOLOGICAL SPRING OF THE WELFARE :
NASA OF HOUSTON !
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DO YOU KNOW, AMERICA, THAT ISRAELI MAFIA IS
ALSO WELL SAFE ON NEW YORK,
and not only WELL PROTECTED ON ISRAEL ?
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MUST each HONEST Jew of America to do a step back,
untill AMERICA WILL SOLVE THE ECONOMICAL CRISIS !!!!
HOW ? by BOMBING Israel !!!!
and by MAKING CLEAR ANY SHADE ON THIS SHAME
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Is the crisis solution, DISSOLVING ISRAEL ?
ISRAEL, which continues robbing the US Technologies, spring of the
Prosperity ???
By what RIGHT, do Israel rob the USA Inventions ????
By wah RIGHT, do Israel corrupt NASA ???
Why the Inventors denounced ISRAEL on the Supreme Court of US ?
IS THE HOUR OF RETURNING TO ISRAEL THE 3,000 BOMBS USED ON WTC,
at 9/11, and the Missile used against Pentagon ????
SURE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PALIN, some Prophecies by Dresden Nun...
..... ABOUT OUR AGE....,
and about Masonic Lodges too ?
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The Dresden NUN, were born at 1680 on Dresden (Germany) and died at
1706 in a convent of Dresden at 22 years old, not far away from the Elba
river.
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"A time will reach, in which the voice will fly. And the men will speak
between themselves, among the seas and the mounts. A time still
will reach in which the images will fly. And the men will be able to look
at themselves among the seas and mounts. This will be a time of great
pains and of large torments. The images will fly like angels, but they
will not carry the light of angels".
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Is it on the Anti-Christ ? :
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"Between 1940 and 2010 Lucifer will transfer on the Earth
his duke. And on the Earth it will dominate the satanic hierarchy, guided
by a dèmon, that will speak the Attila's language, but will wear the
clothes of Cesar.
The court of Satan will be formed by six light-flee members
and the duke Weigore (weihe = ordination - German -; gore - English).
The court of the marked duke will dominate triumphally on
the Earth during 6,666 days.
The reign of the great pestilence will be this. The forest
of iniquity will be this. But finally all the satanic
court will be precipitated into the fire, and of the last ones
demons, only will remain the toxic ash".
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Attila only speaks making war. Cesar has the sovereign power on the Earth.
The light-flee to hide the light.
6,666 days are eighteen years and three months.
This period of time must be after the fall dwon of Sovietic Union.
6.666 are also the number of devils under the commando of satan, under
the medieval demonological tradition.
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