Tuesday, September 28, 2010

rec.bicycles.racing - 25 new messages in 4 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* Who is Cav talking about here? - 16 messages, 11 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/05d8120a068c5fe0?hl=en
* SRO - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/a5eff0574031ce1d?hl=en
* Armstrong went nuts and shot up the UT campus - the pressure was too much -
2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/803659c5fd60fdf6?hl=en
* Done loss his fool mind... - 6 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/10d721c1550896e2?hl=en

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TOPIC: Who is Cav talking about here?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/05d8120a068c5fe0?hl=en
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== 1 of 16 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 27 2010 11:12 pm
From: Ryan Cousineau


"They openly complain about every single thing and they openly admit
it," Cavendish said. "I've spoken to guys in that team and say 'why do
you do it?' and they said 'we've got to find a way to beat you'.
That's not fair, and that's not sporting."

Cavendish's claimed that one specific team manager "tries to f**k with
me at every possible opportunity, which is ironic considering he was a
sprinter and I actually looked up to him. But now I have no respect
for him."

The situation has got so bad, Cavendish claimed that it's affecting
the way he sprints. Though he insisted he will not play similar mind
games with his rivals.

This is in cyclingnews,

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cavendish-warns-his-world-championship-rivals

I can't figure out which manager or team he's referring to.


== 2 of 16 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 3:22 am
From: bar


On Sep 28, 2:12 am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "They openly complain about every single thing and they openly admit
> it," Cavendish said. "I've spoken to guys in that team and say 'why do
> you do it?' and they said 'we've got to find a way to beat you'.
> That's not fair, and that's not sporting."
>
> Cavendish's claimed that one specific team manager "tries to f**k with
> me at every possible opportunity, which is ironic considering he was a
> sprinter and I actually looked up to him. But now I have no respect
> for him."
>
> The situation has got so bad, Cavendish claimed that it's affecting
> the way he sprints. Though he insisted he will not play similar mind
> games with his rivals.
>
> This is in cyclingnews,
>
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cavendish-warns-his-world-championshi...
>
> I can't figure out which manager or team he's referring to.

cervelo? we all know thor is a whiny bitch ... and after that chop job
cavendish laid on haussler early this year ... well, it almost has to
be them, right?


== 3 of 16 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 5:18 am
From: "A. Dumas"


bar wrote:
> On Sep 28, 2:12 am, Ryan Cousineau wrote:
>> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cavendish-warns-his-world-championship-rivals
>> I can't figure out which manager or team he's referring to.
>
> cervelo? we all know thor is a whiny bitch ... and after that chop job
> cavendish laid on haussler early this year ... well, it almost has to
> be them, right?

Certainly no love lost between Cavendish & Haussler. And DS Jean-Paul
van Poppel was a famous sprinter at who Cavendish might have looked up.

Hushovd a whiny bitch? I don't know. But then again, he can't do
anything wrong with me ever since I gargled his semen, I mean, since he
waved hello to me on the road in Monaco. Top feller.


== 4 of 16 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 6:42 am
From: Fred


On Sep 28, 12:12 am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "They openly complain about every single thing and they openly admit
> it," Cavendish said. "I've spoken to guys in that team and say 'why do
> you do it?' and they said 'we've got to find a way to beat you'.
> That's not fair, and that's not sporting."
>
> Cavendish's claimed that one specific team manager "tries to f**k with
> me at every possible opportunity, which is ironic considering he was a
> sprinter and I actually looked up to him. But now I have no respect
> for him."
>
> The situation has got so bad, Cavendish claimed that it's affecting
> the way he sprints. Though he insisted he will not play similar mind
> games with his rivals.
>
> This is in cyclingnews,
>
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cavendish-warns-his-world-championshi...
>
> I can't figure out which manager or team he's referring to.

So, who's been filing protests? There's your clue.


== 5 of 16 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 6:46 am
From: TheCoz


On Sep 28, 1:12 am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "They openly complain about every single thing and they openly admit
> it," Cavendish said. "I've spoken to guys in that team and say 'why do
> you do it?' and they said 'we've got to find a way to beat you'.
> That's not fair, and that's not sporting."
>
> Cavendish's claimed that one specific team manager "tries to f**k with
> me at every possible opportunity, which is ironic considering he was a
> sprinter and I actually looked up to him. But now I have no respect
> for him."
>
> The situation has got so bad, Cavendish claimed that it's affecting
> the way he sprints. Though he insisted he will not play similar mind
> games with his rivals.
>
> This is in cyclingnews,
>
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cavendish-warns-his-world-championshi...
>
> I can't figure out which manager or team he's referring to.

I had guessed Tyler Farrar? Go figure
Coz


== 6 of 16 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 6:48 am
From: Fred


On Sep 28, 7:46 am, TheCoz <cycled...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 28, 1:12 am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "They openly complain about every single thing and they openly admit
> > it," Cavendish said. "I've spoken to guys in that team and say 'why do
> > you do it?' and they said 'we've got to find a way to beat you'.
> > That's not fair, and that's not sporting."
>
> > Cavendish's claimed that one specific team manager "tries to f**k with
> > me at every possible opportunity, which is ironic considering he was a
> > sprinter and I actually looked up to him. But now I have no respect
> > for him."
>
> > The situation has got so bad, Cavendish claimed that it's affecting
> > the way he sprints. Though he insisted he will not play similar mind
> > games with his rivals.
>
> > This is in cyclingnews,
>
> >http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cavendish-warns-his-world-championshi...
>
> > I can't figure out which manager or team he's referring to.
>
> I had guessed Tyler Farrar? Go figure
> Coz

Tyler and Cav seem to be too quick to praise one another and too
respectful for it to be Garmin doing this. Besides, which of their
directors was ever a sprinter?

Cervelo the more likely culprit.


== 7 of 16 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 7:16 am
From: "A. Dumas"


Fred wrote:
>> On Sep 28, 1:12 am, Ryan Cousineau wrote:
>>> Cavendish's claimed that one specific team manager "tries to f**k with
>>> me at every possible opportunity, which is ironic considering he was a
>>> sprinter and I actually looked up to him. But now I have no respect
>>> for him."
>
> Tyler and Cav seem to be too quick to praise one another and too
> respectful for it to be Garmin doing this. Besides, which of their
> directors was ever a sprinter?

Matt White? Meh.

> Cervelo the more likely culprit.


== 8 of 16 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 10:04 am
From: Ronko


In article <9fa46df1-56eb-4f79-a180-
4c82e9370723@d17g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
fred.garvin@yahoo.com says...
>
>
>On Sep 28, 7:46 am, TheCoz <cycled...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sep 28, 1:12 am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > "They openly complain about every single thing and they openly
admit
>> > it," Cavendish said. "I've spoken to guys in that team and say 'why
do
>> > you do it?' and they said 'we've got to find a way to beat you'.
>> > That's not fair, and that's not sporting."
>>
>> > Cavendish's claimed that one specific team manager "tries to f**k
with
>> > me at every possible opportunity, which is ironic considering he
was a
>> > sprinter and I actually looked up to him. But now I have no respect
>> > for him."
>>
>> > The situation has got so bad, Cavendish claimed that it's affecting
>> > the way he sprints. Though he insisted he will not play similar mind
>> > games with his rivals.
>>
>> > This is in cyclingnews,
>>
>> >http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cavendish-warns-his-world-
championshi...
>>
>> > I can't figure out which manager or team he's referring to.
>>
>> I had guessed Tyler Farrar? Go figure
>> Coz
>
>Tyler and Cav seem to be too quick to praise one another and too
>respectful for it to be Garmin doing this. Besides, which of their
>directors was ever a sprinter?
>
>Cervelo the more likely culprit.
Eric Zabel, former world class sprinter, is coaching for Garmin and Farrar.

== 9 of 16 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 10:26 am
From: Fred


On Sep 28, 11:04 am, Ronko <ronkreu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <9fa46df1-56eb-4f79-a180-
> 4c82e9370...@d17g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> fred.gar...@yahoo.com says...
>
>
>
> >On Sep 28, 7:46 am, TheCoz <cycled...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Sep 28, 1:12 am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > "They openly complain about every single thing and they openly
> admit
> >> > it," Cavendish said. "I've spoken to guys in that team and say 'why
> do
> >> > you do it?' and they said 'we've got to find a way to beat you'.
> >> > That's not fair, and that's not sporting."
>
> >> > Cavendish's claimed that one specific team manager "tries to f**k
> with
> >> > me at every possible opportunity, which is ironic considering he
> was a
> >> > sprinter and I actually looked up to him. But now I have no respect
> >> > for him."
>
> >> > The situation has got so bad, Cavendish claimed that it's affecting
> >> > the way he sprints. Though he insisted he will not play similar mind
> >> > games with his rivals.
>
> >> > This is in cyclingnews,
>
> >> >http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cavendish-warns-his-world-
> championshi...
>
> >> > I can't figure out which manager or team he's referring to.
>
> >> I had guessed Tyler Farrar? Go figure
> >> Coz
>
> >Tyler and Cav seem to be too quick to praise one another and too
> >respectful for it to be Garmin doing this.  Besides, which of their
> >directors was ever a sprinter?
>
> >Cervelo the more likely culprit.
>
> Eric Zabel, former world class sprinter, is coaching for Garmin and Farrar.

D'uh, isn't Zabel also the guy who mentored Cav, and in some large
part responsible for his M-S-R win? I don't believe for a minute that
Zabel would stoop to such trickery against Cav.


== 10 of 16 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 11:16 am
From: Fredmaster of Brainerd


On Sep 28, 5:18 am, "A. Dumas" <alexan...@dumas.fr> wrote:
> bar wrote:
> > On Sep 28, 2:12 am, Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> >>http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cavendish-warns-his-world-championshi...
> >> I can't figure out which manager or team he's referring to.
>
> > cervelo? we all know thor is a whiny bitch ... and after that chop job
> > cavendish laid on haussler early this year ... well, it almost has to
> > be them, right?
>
> Certainly no love lost between Cavendish & Haussler. And DS Jean-Paul
> van Poppel was a famous sprinter at who Cavendish might have looked up.
>
> Hushovd a whiny bitch? I don't know. But then again, he can't do
> anything wrong with me ever since I gargled his semen, I mean, since he
> waved hello to me on the road in Monaco. Top feller.

Hushovd complained and got Cavendish relegated
in the 2009 Tour ... somehow Cav does not strike me
as the forgive and forget type.

Don't know what Cavendish's policy is on waving to Freds.

Fredmaster Ben


== 11 of 16 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 12:11 pm
From: bar


On Sep 28, 8:18 am, "A. Dumas" <alexan...@dumas.fr> wrote:
> bar wrote:
> > On Sep 28, 2:12 am, Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> >>http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cavendish-warns-his-world-championshi...
> >> I can't figure out which manager or team he's referring to.
>
> > cervelo? we all know thor is a whiny bitch ... and after that chop job
> > cavendish laid on haussler early this year ... well, it almost has to
> > be them, right?
>
> Certainly no love lost between Cavendish & Haussler. And DS Jean-Paul
> van Poppel was a famous sprinter at who Cavendish might have looked up.
>
> Hushovd a whiny bitch?

http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/photos/2006/tour06/index.php?id=/photos/2006/tour06/tour062/S-McEWEN3asTOUR0194

== 12 of 16 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 1:00 pm
From: Jim Feeley

On 9/28/10 6:48 AM, in article
9fa46df1-56eb-4f79-a180-4c82e9370723@d17g2000yqm.googlegroups.com, "Fred"
<fred.garvin@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Sep 28, 7:46 am, TheCoz <cycled...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sep 28, 1:12 am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> "They openly complain about every single thing and they openly admit
>>> it," Cavendish said. "I've spoken to guys in that team and say 'why do
>>> you do it?' and they said 'we've got to find a way to beat you'.
>>> That's not fair, and that's not sporting."
>>
>>> Cavendish¹s claimed that one specific team manager "tries to f**k with
>>> me at every possible opportunity, which is ironic considering he was a
>>> sprinter and I actually looked up to him. But now I have no respect
>>> for him."
>>
>>> The situation has got so bad, Cavendish claimed that it's affecting
>>> the way he sprints. Though he insisted he will not play similar mind
>>> games with his rivals.
>>
>>> This is in cyclingnews,
>>
>>> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cavendish-warns-his-world-championshi...
>>
>>> I can't figure out which manager or team he's referring to.
>>
>> I had guessed Tyler Farrar? Go figure
>> Coz
>
> Tyler and Cav seem to be too quick to praise one another and too
> respectful for it to be Garmin doing this. Besides, which of their
> directors was ever a sprinter?
>
> Cervelo the more likely culprit.


Cav is right about all this. Remember when Haussler, Boonen, and Ciolek
ganged up on him in stage 4 of the Tour de Suisse?

http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/watch?v=-RNAYR3KPIg

Jim

== 13 of 16 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 1:06 pm
From: "Kurgan Gringioni"

"Fred" <fred.garvin@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5be36169-2521-4efa-98aa-dee4955c2be9@l6g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...

>
> Eric Zabel, former world class sprinter, is coaching for Garmin and
> Farrar.

:: D'uh, isn't Zabel also the guy who mentored Cav, and in some large
:: part responsible for his M-S-R win? I don't believe for a minute that
:: Zabel would stoop to such trickery against Cav.

Dumbass -

Zabel's working for Garmin???

I thought he was Cav's mentor.

thanks,

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.

== 14 of 16 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 1:28 pm
From: Fred Flintstein


On 9/28/2010 12:04 PM, Ronko wrote:
> Eric Zabel, former world class sprinter, is coaching for Garmin and Farrar.
>

I guess that explains all the 2nd place finishes!

Fred Flintstein


== 15 of 16 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 2:37 pm
From: TheCoz


On Sep 28, 3:06 pm, "Kurgan Gringioni" <soulinthemach...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> "Fred" <fred.gar...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:5be36169-2521-4efa-98aa-dee4955c2be9@l6g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Eric Zabel, former world class sprinter, is coaching for Garmin and
> > Farrar.
>
> :: D'uh, isn't Zabel also the guy who mentored Cav, and in some large
> :: part responsible for his M-S-R win?  I don't believe for a minute that
> :: Zabel would stoop to such trickery against Cav.
>
> Dumbass -
>
> Zabel's working for Garmin???
>
> I thought he was Cav's mentor.
>
> thanks,
>
> Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.

Zabel is HTC sprint coach.
Coz


== 16 of 16 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 3:00 pm
From: "Mike Jacoubowsky"


"bar" <barbaricia@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:dbf19a1a-22ac-4c17-b5be-d1574058f313@e14g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 28, 8:18 am, "A. Dumas" <alexan...@dumas.fr> wrote:
> bar wrote:
> > On Sep 28, 2:12 am, Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> >>http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cavendish-warns-his-world-championshi...
> >> I can't figure out which manager or team he's referring to.
>
> > cervelo? we all know thor is a whiny bitch ... and after that chop job
> > cavendish laid on haussler early this year ... well, it almost has to
> > be them, right?
>
> Certainly no love lost between Cavendish & Haussler. And DS Jean-Paul
> van Poppel was a famous sprinter at who Cavendish might have looked up.
>
> Hushovd a whiny bitch?

http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/photos/2006/tour06/index.php?id=/photos/2006/tour06/tour062/S-McEWEN3asTOUR0194

From the story-
http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/road/2006/tour06/?id=results/tour062
On his reaction at the finish line, Hushovd said: "When you sprint you enjoy
all the adrenaline... when the incident happened, I got scared and
afterwards that turned into anger. That was my first reaction; when I saw
the video, I understood it wasn't his [McEwen's] fault.

"Sprints are sometimes really dangerous, like yesterday. Nobody made
mistakes. Robbie, just like other sprinters sometimes, makes some dangerous
manoeuvres, but he didn't make mistakes [today]. I can't blame him today; I
can blame myself a bit."
Thor Hushovd (Credit Agricole)

Asked if there was any bad blood between the two, McEwen replied: "I've
already spoken with Thor since the finish. Thor and I watched to the video
together. Thor came with his front wheel against my left foot. We're still
friends, no worries."

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA


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TOPIC: SRO
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/a5eff0574031ce1d?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 6:47 am
From: Fred


from cyclingsnooze.com:

"Speaking during a 90-minute panel session in front of a reported
audience of just 30 people at the New Pathways for Pro Cycling
conference in Geelong, Landis said he hoped his own confession can
play a part in resolving cycling's problems."

Wow, 30 people!!!

Fred

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TOPIC: Armstrong went nuts and shot up the UT campus - the pressure was too
much
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/803659c5fd60fdf6?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 11:06 am
From: Anton Berlin


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100928/ap_on_re_us/us_ut_gunman

http://growabrain.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/armstrong.jpg


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 7:57 pm
From: LawBoy01


On Sep 28, 1:06 pm, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100928/ap_on_re_us/us_ut_gunman
>
> http://growabrain.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/armstrong.jpg

Dorkstrong

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TOPIC: Done loss his fool mind...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/10d721c1550896e2?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 11:25 am
From: Fred


Dat's rite, that goofy Riis done went nuts! He didn't renew Julich's
contract for next year.

Dat fool crazy!


== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 2:04 pm
From: raamman


On Sep 28, 2:25 pm, Fred <fred.gar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dat's rite, that goofy Riis done went nuts!  He didn't renew Julich's
> contract for next year.
>
> Dat fool crazy!

I guess booby wanted the team to pay for his training wheels


== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 3:50 pm
From: Fred


On Sep 28, 3:04 pm, raamman <raam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 28, 2:25 pm, Fred <fred.gar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Dat's rite, that goofy Riis done went nuts!  He didn't renew Julich's
> > contract for next year.
>
> > Dat fool crazy!
>
> I guess booby wanted the team to pay for his training wheels

Dumbass, he wasn't a rider, but part of the staff. You did know that,
right?


== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 5:07 pm
From: Keith


On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 11:25:47 -0700 (PDT), Fred <fred.garvin@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Dat's rite, that goofy Riis done went nuts! He didn't renew Julich's
>contract for next year.
>
>Dat fool crazy!

Dunno but it's hard to understand what happened while reading this
(badly written) article about it
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/julich-leaves-saxo-bank-management?cid=OTC-RSS&attr=news_headlines

Looks like he got "canned", but then Riis says '"t was difficult",
hum...

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 5:46 pm
From: Fred Flintstein


Fred wrote:
> Dat's rite, that goofy Riis done went nuts! He didn't renew Julich's
> contract for next year.
>
> Dat fool crazy!

He's turning over staff as well as riders. It'll be a different squad
when Alberto gets there. Maybe that's the point. We'll have to see
who Alberto brings with him. He and Alberto might have come to an
understanding on a few personnel issues before he signed the contract.

Fred Flintstein


== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 6:30 pm
From: Brad Anders


On Sep 28, 5:46 pm, Fred Flintstein <bob.schwa...@sbcREMOVEglobal.net>
wrote:
> Fred wrote:
> > Dat's rite, that goofy Riis done went nuts!  He didn't renew Julich's
> > contract for next year.
>
> > Dat fool crazy!
>
> He's turning over staff as well as riders. It'll be a different squad
> when Alberto gets there. Maybe that's the point. We'll have to see
> who Alberto brings with him. He and Alberto might have come to an
> understanding on a few personnel issues before he signed the contract.
>
> Fred Flintstein

Pro cycling is looking more and more like scavengers scrabbling for
scraps of meat left on a week-old bone.

Brad Anders


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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/6584e56ac6104fcf?hl=en
* TV Viewing recommendations in NY/CT area. - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* Pats D: How Bad Is It? - 6 messages, 5 authors
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* Vote Sanchez player of the week... - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: Washington & Faneca
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/01fd3b6b0969e5ad?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 1:47 pm
From: John C TX

btw someone mentioned Singletary. A friend went to Baylor at the same
time. Baylor took attendance & Singletary showed up for every class
in a shirt & tie and a briefcase. He knew why he was there.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 7:00 pm
From: Michael


On Sep 28, 4:47 pm, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> btw someone mentioned Singletary. A friend went to Baylor at the same
> time.  Baylor took attendance & Singletary showed up for every class
> in a shirt & tie and a briefcase.  He knew why he was there.

he was also a hof quality player. i'm not so sure how he'll make out
as hc. the defensive effort his team gave against the saints was
fantastic. and then they look horrible. it appears to be coaching
issues...

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TOPIC: Chauncey stolen from Practice Squad...
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/fffa6518b2c3213e?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 1:48 pm
From: Johnny Morongo


On Sep 28, 1:35 pm, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 28, 3:02 pm, Johnny Morongo
>
>
>
> <j.mireh...@harmonicconcordance.com> wrote:
> > On Sep 28, 12:12 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>
> > > The Rams signed him off our PS.
>
> > > This one pisses me off.  We keep the spot for McKnight, and lose Chauncey Washington, who
> > > really impressed me in preseason, with his tough running.  The ramifications of the Leon
> > > trade, keep on ticking.
> > > Greene better stay healthy.
>
> > Bummer.  Chauncy was lost as the price for Connor.  Simple as that.
> > They chose a banger over a runner.  This one is on Rex.
>
> > And Green better stay healthy enough to force the CS to play him, by
> > dint of his production, as the full time 1st and 2nd down RB, thereby
> > using LT in the perfect 3rd down role for him enhancing the chance to
> > preserve him for the whole run to the Super Bowl.  I'm concerned by
> > his rather excessive, if often brilliant, number of early season
> > runs.  But - the clock is the clock.  He IS in his thirties and has
> > many miles on him.  Using him so often, so early, does not, IMHO, bode
> > well for his season long availability.  He hasn't had a full year of
> > play in three years.  Green NEEDS to step up and Schott has to get him
> > on the field more often.  If not, I would feel fairly safe to suggest
> > that "LTGramps" won't make it through the year.   That would not be
> > good, especially since Chauncy is in KC.  McKnight better be keeping
> > on his toes.  The way things stand now, if LT does go down, for
> > however long, he'll be up, faux back that he is.
>
> They also could have paid him full salary like The Pats did with that
> guard a few years ago. This is really pissing  me off.

This is on the team of Rex & Tannenbaum.


== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 2:07 pm
From: graybeard


On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 13:30:57 -0700 (PDT) John C TX
<johnctxjets@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sep 28, 3:02 pm, Johnny Morongo
><j.mireh...@harmonicconcordance.com> wrote:
>> On Sep 28, 12:12 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>>
>> > The Rams signed him off our PS.
>>
>> > This one pisses me off.  We keep the spot for McKnight, and lose Chauncey Washington, who
>> > really impressed me in preseason, with his tough running.  The ramifications of the Leon
>> > trade, keep on ticking.
>> > Greene better stay healthy.
>>
>> Bummer.  Chauncy was lost as the price for Connor.  Simple as that.
>> They chose a banger over a runner.  This one is on Rex.
>>
>> And Green better stay healthy enough to force the CS to play him, by
>> dint of his production, as the full time 1st and 2nd down RB, thereby
>> using LT in the perfect 3rd down role for him enhancing the chance to
>> preserve him for the whole run to the Super Bowl.  I'm concerned by
>> his rather excessive, if often brilliant, number of early season
>> runs.  But - the clock is the clock.  He IS in his thirties and has
>> many miles on him.  Using him so often, so early, does not, IMHO, bode
>> well for his season long availability.  He hasn't had a full year of
>> play in three years.  Green NEEDS to step up and Schott has to get him
>> on the field more often.  If not, I would feel fairly safe to suggest
>> that "LTGramps" won't make it through the year.   That would not be
>> good, especially since Chauncy is in KC.  McKnight better be keeping
>> on his toes.  The way things stand now, if LT does go down, for
>> however long, he'll be up, faux back that he is.
>
>It is why coaches can screw up when they fall in love with a player.
>
>Hell we can always sign another guy named Washington.

Or just kept the one we had.
--
graybeard


== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 6:07 pm
From: buRford


On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 13:48:24 -0700 (PDT), Johnny Morongo
<j.mirehiel@harmonicconcordance.com> wrote:

>On Sep 28, 1:35 pm, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sep 28, 3:02 pm, Johnny Morongo
>>
>>
>>
>> <j.mireh...@harmonicconcordance.com> wrote:
>> > On Sep 28, 12:12 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > The Rams signed him off our PS.
>>
>> > > This one pisses me off.  We keep the spot for McKnight, and lose Chauncey Washington, who
>> > > really impressed me in preseason, with his tough running.  The ramifications of the Leon
>> > > trade, keep on ticking.
>> > > Greene better stay healthy.
>>
>> > Bummer.  Chauncy was lost as the price for Connor.  Simple as that.
>> > They chose a banger over a runner.  This one is on Rex.
>>
>> > And Green better stay healthy enough to force the CS to play him, by
>> > dint of his production, as the full time 1st and 2nd down RB, thereby
>> > using LT in the perfect 3rd down role for him enhancing the chance to
>> > preserve him for the whole run to the Super Bowl.  I'm concerned by
>> > his rather excessive, if often brilliant, number of early season
>> > runs.  But - the clock is the clock.  He IS in his thirties and has
>> > many miles on him.  Using him so often, so early, does not, IMHO, bode
>> > well for his season long availability.  He hasn't had a full year of
>> > play in three years.  Green NEEDS to step up and Schott has to get him
>> > on the field more often.  If not, I would feel fairly safe to suggest
>> > that "LTGramps" won't make it through the year.   That would not be
>> > good, especially since Chauncy is in KC.  McKnight better be keeping
>> > on his toes.  The way things stand now, if LT does go down, for
>> > however long, he'll be up, faux back that he is.
>>
>> They also could have paid him full salary like The Pats did with that
>> guard a few years ago. This is really pissing  me off.
>
>This is on the team of Rex & Tannenbaum.

So are the good moves.
I hated the move... I still hate the move, I'm seriously pissed, but every management team
makes mistakes.
All we can do at this point, is hope McKnight becomes productive.
I have a candle lit for this very purpose ;)


== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 7:11 pm
From: Michael


On Sep 28, 3:12 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> The Rams signed him off our PS.
>
> This one pisses me off.  We keep the spot for McKnight, and lose Chauncey Washington, who
> really impressed me in preseason, with his tough running.  The ramifications of the Leon
> trade, keep on ticking.
> Greene better stay healthy.

i liked chauncey. i dont know why they did not keep him. may be he
did not look so good agaisnt first linde defenders ??? he looked to be
a driven player to me. as much hope as i held for mcnight, he's not
looking like much at all and i'd have kept chanucey instead.


== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 7:22 pm
From: "papa.carl44"

"buRford" <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
news:a7f4a6ds37c87danbslk0iaak1dnl07aga@4ax.com...
> The Rams signed him off our PS.
>
> This one pisses me off. We keep the spot for McKnight, and lose Chauncey
> Washington, who
> really impressed me in preseason, with his tough running. The
> ramifications of the Leon
> trade, keep on ticking.
> Greene better stay healthy.

This really sucks...big time....McKnight is going to be a wast of time...how
can they do crap like this?


== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 7:44 pm
From: Harlan Lachman


In article <a7f4a6ds37c87danbslk0iaak1dnl07aga@4ax.com>,
buRford <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote:

> The Rams signed him off our PS.
>
> This one pisses me off. We keep the spot for McKnight, and lose Chauncey
> Washington, who
> really impressed me in preseason, with his tough running. The ramifications
> of the Leon
> trade, keep on ticking.
> Greene better stay healthy.

Actually, I don't mind keeping McNothing. Signing Clowney pissed me off.
IMHO, he is the guy who cost us Woodhead and Chauncey.

I am not worried either will become a star (as I used to mistakenly
worry about Lamont J). But I could imagine that either could have filled
in if Shonn's injury lingers or something untoward happened to LT.

harlan

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TOPIC: The Jets really are Green...
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/7f63f9cd56b752bb?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 1:50 pm
From: John C TX


On Sep 28, 1:54 pm, Johnny Morongo
<j.mireh...@harmonicconcordance.com> wrote:
> On Sep 28, 10:01 am, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Kudos to Woody for this... of course, due to the stupidity of our Govt, over the past 30
> > years, the Jets had to use a Chinese Company.
>
> > Press Release
> > New York Jets and Yingli Solar Announce Completion of NFL's Largest Solar Power System at
> > Team...
> > 09.28.10, 6:21 AM ET
>
> > BAODING, China and FLORHAM PARK, N.J., Sept. 28 /PRNewswire-Asia-FirstCall/ -- Yingli
> > Green Energy Holding Company Limited (NYSE: YGE), a leading solar energy company and one
> > of the world's largest vertically integrated photovoltaic manufacturers, which holds the
> > brand "Yingli Solar," and The New York Jets today announced the completion of a solar
> > power system at the Jets' team headquarters and training center in Florham Park, NJ. This
> > is the largest photovoltaic (PV) installation at a NFL team headquarters, utilizing over
> > 3,000 Yingli Solar panels. Syncarpha Capital, the system owner, selected SunDurance
> > Energy, LLC for the turnkey design and construction of the project, and partnered with
> > Evolution Energies, LLC as the project developer. All of the power generated by the system
> > will be sold to The New York Jets under a long-term Power Purchase Agreement (PPA).
>
> > (Photo:http://photos.prnewswire.com/pb-large/EN/2010/09/28/10/20100928100949...
> > )
> > "The New York Jets are excited to be at the forefront of incorporating solar energy into
> > the NFL. When we decided to add solar energy to the Atlantic Health Training Center, going
> > green was the catalyst," said Thad Sheely, New York Jets' Executive Vice President of
> > Finance and Stadium Development. "This project is the first of many green initiatives on
> > behalf of the team, and we are proud to be green in color and also in deed. We chose the
> > right partners and are thrilled about what this installation will do for our organization,
> > our community, and hopefully for inspiring the entire league."
>
> > "We are excited to have formed a long-term partnership with the New York Jets, and to
> > align our brand with the most popular sport in America," said Robert Petrina, Managing
> > Director of Yingli Green Energy Americas. "We commend the Jets for their commitment to
> > renewable energy, as well as the dedication of Syncarpha Capital and SunDurance Energy to
> > make this project a reality - it's truly a winning combination."
>
> > The Atlantic Health Training Center solar installation also marks another prominent solar
> > success for the state of New Jersey, which is currently a U.S. leader in solar energy,
> > second only to California. Designed to generate over 750,000 kilowatt-hours of electricity
> > for the building each year, the project will reduce CO2 emissions by 540 metric tons each
> > year, which is equivalent to taking over 100 cars off the road. By utilizing a power
> > purchase agreement, the team will also save tens of thousands of dollars each year in
> > electricity expenses with no capital outlay.
>
> > "Syncarpha Capital welcomes the opportunity to partner with the New York Jets, a visionary
> > sports franchise and role model of corporate sustainability, as its long term provider of
> > zero carbon power. Today's announcement is evidence of our exemplary partnership and
> > ideally provides direction for all other professional sports franchises," commented Cliff
> > Chapman, Co-Managing Partner and Co-Founder of Syncarpha Capital.
>
> > Work began at the Training Center in late June, and the project was generating power
> > approximately eight weeks later.
>
> > "We're proud to have finished this project on-budget, and on-schedule, just in time for
> > the NFL season," said SunDurance Energy CEO, Al Bucknam. "Designing and building a solar
> > project that will stand the test of time requires the same commitment to execution
> > excellence that is required for success in the NFL. The New York Jets demand the very best
> > from themselves and from their partners, and we appreciate the opportunity to be a part of
> > this stellar team."
>
> > Additionally, Nautilus Solar Energy, LLC, a privately owned independent power producer
> > headquartered in Summit, New Jersey, will provide ongoing asset management services.
>
> > About Yingli Green Energy
>
> > Yingli Green Energy Holding Company Limited (NYSE: YGE), which markets its products under
> > the brand "Yingli Solar", is a leading solar energy company and one of the world's largest
> > vertically integrated photovoltaic manufacturers. Yingli Green Energy's manufacturing
> > covers the entire photovoltaic value chain, from the production of polysilicon through
> > ingot casting and wafering, to solar cell production and module assembly. Currently,
> > Yingli Green Energy maintains a balanced production capacity of over 600 MW per year. Two
> > capacity expansion projects of 300 MW and 100 MW located in Baoding and Hainan,
> > respectively, have both started initial production in early July 2010, and are expected to
> > bring Yingli Green Energy's total capacity to 1 GW by the end of the third quarter of
> > 2010. In addition, Yingli Green Energy's in-house polysilicon plant, Fine Silicon, which
> > has a designed annual production capacity of 3,000 metric tons, has successfully started
> > commercial operation in early August 2010. Yingli Green Energy distributes its
> > photovoltaic modules to a wide range of markets, including Germany, Spain, Italy, Greece,
> > France, South Korea, China and the United States. Headquartered in Baoding, China, Yingli
> > Green Energy has more than 7,000 employees and more than 10 subsidiaries and branch
> > offices worldwide. Yingli Green Energy is publicly listed on the New York Stock Exchange
> > (NYSE: YGE). For more information, please visithttp://www.yinglisolar.com.
>
> > About Syncarpha Capital
>
> > Syncarpha Capital is an investment company that develops or acquires, owns and operates
> > rooftop or ground mounted solar power plants in the United States and Canada under
> > long-term contracts with creditworthy counterparties. Headquartered in New York, Syncarpha
> > provides solar PPAs that immediately reduce electricity bills without any capital
> > investment or maintenance costs for commercial/industrial companies, municipalities,
> > schools and utilities. For more information, please visithttp://www.syncarpha.com.
>
> > About Evolution Energies, LLC
>
> > Evolution Energies is a renewable energy company focused on the development, financing,
> > acquisition and ownership of commercial and utility scale solar energy facilities.
> > Evolution Energies aims to develop a diverse portfolio of solar energy assets that are
> > designed, installed, operated and maintained to ensure sustainability and profitability.
> > For more information, please visithttp://www.EvolutionEnergies.com.
>
> > About SunDurance Energy, LLC
>
> > SunDurance Energy, LLC is a solar energy company that develops, designs, builds and
> > operates megawatt-scale solar power solutions for the commercial & industrial, federal &
> > government, and utility-scale markets. An affiliate of The Conti Group, SunDurance Energy
> > is a leading solar provider with high-profile projects at Rutgers University, William
> > Patterson University, the NY Jets training facility, and much more. For more information
> > please visithttp://www.SunDuranceEnergy.com.
>
> > About Nautilus Solar Energy, LLC
>
> > Founded in 2006, Nautilus Solar is a leading independent solar power producer
> > headquartered in Summit, New Jersey. Nautilus Solar develops, constructs, finances, owns
> > and operates distributed generation and utility-scale solar electric systems. The company
> > sells its generated electricity through long term power purchase agreements. Nautilus
> > Solar is majority-owned by an investment affiliate of Starwood Energy Group Global, LLC,
> > based in Greenwich, Connecticut. Nautilus Solar is in the process of completing the
> > largest solar energy facility at a university in the U.S. with the commissioning of the
> > 3.5MW solar facility at William Paterson University in Wayne, New Jersey. For more
> > information, please visit the website athttp://www.nautilussolar.com.
>
> > Safe Harbor Statement
>
> > This press release contains forward-looking statements. These statements constitute
> > "forward-looking" statements within the meaning of Section 21E of the Securities Exchange
> > Act of 1934, as amended, and as defined in the U.S. Private Securities Litigation Reform
> > Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements can be identified by terminology such as
> > "will," "expects," "anticipates," "future," "intends," "plans," "believes," "estimates,"
> > "target" and similar statements. Such statements are based upon management's current
> > expectations and current market and operating conditions, and relate to events that
> > involve known or unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors, all of which are
> > difficult to predict and many of which are beyond Yingli Green Energy's control, which may
> > cause Yingli Green Energy's actual results, performance or achievements to differ
> > materially from those in the forward- looking statements. Further information regarding
> > these and other risks, uncertainties or factors is included in Yingli Green Energy's
> > filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. Yingli Green Energy does not
> > undertake any obligation to update any forward-looking statement as a result of new
> > information, future events or otherwise, except as required under applicable law.
>
> GREAT get, Bman.  Scanning this, it sounds like a right-minded idea.
> Very wise of them to do so, and to get something in place as this new
> venture at The New Meadowlands takes off shows that someone in the
> organization has his/her head screwed on straight and saw the multiple
> benefits of going solar from the get go.  It's also a good model that
> other businesses might investigate.  Tip o' the hat to 'em.

In commercial RE green buildings fetch higher rents and fill faster.
The problem there is green & BS green.

The good news for us is that many in the Sustainability movement
aren't idiots like some of the Luddites that ran with the Green
Party. They realize that to affect change you need to be near those
with power.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 6:02 pm
From: buRford


On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 13:04:52 -0700 (PDT), Johnny Morongo
<j.mirehiel@harmonicconcordance.com> wrote:

>On Sep 28, 12:14 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 11:54:17 -0700 (PDT), Johnny Morongo
>>
>> <j.mireh...@harmonicconcordance.com> wrote:
>> >On Sep 28, 10:01 am, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>> >> Kudos to Woody for this... of course, due to the stupidity of our Govt, over the past 30
>> >> years, the Jets had to use a Chinese Company.
>>
>> >> Press Release
>> >> New York Jets and Yingli Solar Announce Completion of NFL's Largest Solar Power System at
>> >> Team...
>> >> 09.28.10, 6:21 AM ET
>>
>> >> BAODING, China and FLORHAM PARK, N.J., Sept. 28 /PRNewswire-Asia-FirstCall/ -- Yingli
>> >> Green Energy Holding Company Limited (NYSE: YGE), a leading solar energy company and one
>> >> of the world's largest vertically integrated photovoltaic manufacturers, which holds the
>> >> brand "Yingli Solar," and The New York Jets today announced the completion of a solar
>> >> power system at the Jets' team headquarters and training center in Florham Park, NJ. This
>> >> is the largest photovoltaic (PV) installation at a NFL team headquarters, utilizing over
>> >> 3,000 Yingli Solar panels. Syncarpha Capital, the system owner, selected SunDurance
>> >> Energy, LLC for the turnkey design and construction of the project, and partnered with
>> >> Evolution Energies, LLC as the project developer. All of the power generated by the system
>> >> will be sold to The New York Jets under a long-term Power Purchase Agreement (PPA).
>>
>> >> (Photo:http://photos.prnewswire.com/pb-large/EN/2010/09/28/10/20100928100949...
>> >> )
>> >> "The New York Jets are excited to be at the forefront of incorporating solar energy into
>> >> the NFL. When we decided to add solar energy to the Atlantic Health Training Center, going
>> >> green was the catalyst," said Thad Sheely, New York Jets' Executive Vice President of
>> >> Finance and Stadium Development. "This project is the first of many green initiatives on
>> >> behalf of the team, and we are proud to be green in color and also in deed. We chose the
>> >> right partners and are thrilled about what this installation will do for our organization,
>> >> our community, and hopefully for inspiring the entire league."
>>
>> >> "We are excited to have formed a long-term partnership with the New York Jets, and to
>> >> align our brand with the most popular sport in America," said Robert Petrina, Managing
>> >> Director of Yingli Green Energy Americas. "We commend the Jets for their commitment to
>> >> renewable energy, as well as the dedication of Syncarpha Capital and SunDurance Energy to
>> >> make this project a reality - it's truly a winning combination."
>>
>> >> The Atlantic Health Training Center solar installation also marks another prominent solar
>> >> success for the state of New Jersey, which is currently a U.S. leader in solar energy,
>> >> second only to California. Designed to generate over 750,000 kilowatt-hours of electricity
>> >> for the building each year, the project will reduce CO2 emissions by 540 metric tons each
>> >> year, which is equivalent to taking over 100 cars off the road. By utilizing a power
>> >> purchase agreement, the team will also save tens of thousands of dollars each year in
>> >> electricity expenses with no capital outlay.
>>
>> >> "Syncarpha Capital welcomes the opportunity to partner with the New York Jets, a visionary
>> >> sports franchise and role model of corporate sustainability, as its long term provider of
>> >> zero carbon power. Today's announcement is evidence of our exemplary partnership and
>> >> ideally provides direction for all other professional sports franchises," commented Cliff
>> >> Chapman, Co-Managing Partner and Co-Founder of Syncarpha Capital.
>>
>> >> Work began at the Training Center in late June, and the project was generating power
>> >> approximately eight weeks later.
>>
>> >> "We're proud to have finished this project on-budget, and on-schedule, just in time for
>> >> the NFL season," said SunDurance Energy CEO, Al Bucknam. "Designing and building a solar
>> >> project that will stand the test of time requires the same commitment to execution
>> >> excellence that is required for success in the NFL. The New York Jets demand the very best
>> >> from themselves and from their partners, and we appreciate the opportunity to be a part of
>> >> this stellar team."
>>
>> >> Additionally, Nautilus Solar Energy, LLC, a privately owned independent power producer
>> >> headquartered in Summit, New Jersey, will provide ongoing asset management services.
>>
>> >> About Yingli Green Energy
>>
>> >> Yingli Green Energy Holding Company Limited (NYSE: YGE), which markets its products under
>> >> the brand "Yingli Solar", is a leading solar energy company and one of the world's largest
>> >> vertically integrated photovoltaic manufacturers. Yingli Green Energy's manufacturing
>> >> covers the entire photovoltaic value chain, from the production of polysilicon through
>> >> ingot casting and wafering, to solar cell production and module assembly. Currently,
>> >> Yingli Green Energy maintains a balanced production capacity of over 600 MW per year. Two
>> >> capacity expansion projects of 300 MW and 100 MW located in Baoding and Hainan,
>> >> respectively, have both started initial production in early July 2010, and are expected to
>> >> bring Yingli Green Energy's total capacity to 1 GW by the end of the third quarter of
>> >> 2010. In addition, Yingli Green Energy's in-house polysilicon plant, Fine Silicon, which
>> >> has a designed annual production capacity of 3,000 metric tons, has successfully started
>> >> commercial operation in early August 2010. Yingli Green Energy distributes its
>> >> photovoltaic modules to a wide range of markets, including Germany, Spain, Italy, Greece,
>> >> France, South Korea, China and the United States. Headquartered in Baoding, China, Yingli
>> >> Green Energy has more than 7,000 employees and more than 10 subsidiaries and branch
>> >> offices worldwide. Yingli Green Energy is publicly listed on the New York Stock Exchange
>> >> (NYSE: YGE). For more information, please visithttp://www.yinglisolar.com.
>>
>> >> About Syncarpha Capital
>>
>> >> Syncarpha Capital is an investment company that develops or acquires, owns and operates
>> >> rooftop or ground mounted solar power plants in the United States and Canada under
>> >> long-term contracts with creditworthy counterparties. Headquartered in New York, Syncarpha
>> >> provides solar PPAs that immediately reduce electricity bills without any capital
>> >> investment or maintenance costs for commercial/industrial companies, municipalities,
>> >> schools and utilities. For more information, please visithttp://www.syncarpha.com.
>>
>> >> About Evolution Energies, LLC
>>
>> >> Evolution Energies is a renewable energy company focused on the development, financing,
>> >> acquisition and ownership of commercial and utility scale solar energy facilities.
>> >> Evolution Energies aims to develop a diverse portfolio of solar energy assets that are
>> >> designed, installed, operated and maintained to ensure sustainability and profitability.
>> >> For more information, please visithttp://www.EvolutionEnergies.com.
>>
>> >> About SunDurance Energy, LLC
>>
>> >> SunDurance Energy, LLC is a solar energy company that develops, designs, builds and
>> >> operates megawatt-scale solar power solutions for the commercial & industrial, federal &
>> >> government, and utility-scale markets. An affiliate of The Conti Group, SunDurance Energy
>> >> is a leading solar provider with high-profile projects at Rutgers University, William
>> >> Patterson University, the NY Jets training facility, and much more. For more information
>> >> please visithttp://www.SunDuranceEnergy.com.
>>
>> >> About Nautilus Solar Energy, LLC
>>
>> >> Founded in 2006, Nautilus Solar is a leading independent solar power producer
>> >> headquartered in Summit, New Jersey. Nautilus Solar develops, constructs, finances, owns
>> >> and operates distributed generation and utility-scale solar electric systems. The company
>> >> sells its generated electricity through long term power purchase agreements. Nautilus
>> >> Solar is majority-owned by an investment affiliate of Starwood Energy Group Global, LLC,
>> >> based in Greenwich, Connecticut. Nautilus Solar is in the process of completing the
>> >> largest solar energy facility at a university in the U.S. with the commissioning of the
>> >> 3.5MW solar facility at William Paterson University in Wayne, New Jersey. For more
>> >> information, please visit the website athttp://www.nautilussolar.com.
>>
>> >> Safe Harbor Statement
>>
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>> >> Act of 1934, as amended, and as defined in the U.S. Private Securities Litigation Reform
>> >> Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements can be identified by terminology such as
>> >> "will," "expects," "anticipates," "future," "intends," "plans," "believes," "estimates,"
>> >> "target" and similar statements. Such statements are based upon management's current
>> >> expectations and current market and operating conditions, and relate to events that
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>> >> difficult to predict and many of which are beyond Yingli Green Energy's control, which may
>> >> cause Yingli Green Energy's actual results, performance or achievements to differ
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>> >> filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. Yingli Green Energy does not
>> >> undertake any obligation to update any forward-looking statement as a result of new
>> >> information, future events or otherwise, except as required under applicable law.
>>
>> >GREAT get, Bman.  Scanning this, it sounds like a right-minded idea.
>> >Very wise of them to do so, and to get something in place as this new
>> >venture at The New Meadowlands takes off shows that someone in the
>> >organization has his/her head screwed on straight and saw the multiple
>> >benefits of going solar from the get go.  It's also a good model that
>> >other businesses might investigate.  Tip o' the hat to 'em.
>>
>> And it looks like economically, it's a shrewd move.
>> The China part, though, just pisses me off.  But, the season has started, so I'm holdin'
>> my political tongue  ;)
>
>You, a political tongue? DMML

No, I HAVE a political tongue! FYT ;)

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TOPIC: Sanchez
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/460441b0325476f4?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 1:51 pm
From: John C TX


On Sep 28, 8:06 am, graybeard <graybe...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 07:29:37 -0400 buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>
> >Also watch the 2ndary play.  Leonard was terrible on Sun nite.  Wilson scares me more
> >watching a 2nd time.  He really looks in waaaaaay over his head.  I hope it's just
> >inexperience, because he looks totally lost.
>
> Pool OTOH had a terrific game. He personally saved the game on the
> Dolphins' last drive when he twice prevented Miami from scoring a TD -
> first by hustling across the field to push Marshall out of bounds at the
> 11 yard line, and then by knocking the ball away on the 4th down pass.
> --
> graybeard

That he was in there at the end is proof that coaches realize it as
well.

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TOPIC: Pace return?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/0d1841febb1a4155?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 1:52 pm
From: Michael


On Sep 28, 4:39 pm, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 28, 3:21 pm, Johnny Morongo
>
>
>
>
>
> <j.mireh...@harmonicconcordance.com> wrote:
> > On Sep 28, 12:59 pm, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Sep 28, 12:31 pm, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > We could use Pace this weekend to give Taylor and Thomas some rest so
> > > > it is good news he is almost ready.  If Revis can return the following
> > > > weekend for Favre that would help.
>
> > > > When does Pool get to start?
>
> > > i'd rather not rush pace... they should be able to get past the bills
> > > with taylor and blt.  if revis is not back for the vikings game, i'd
> > > start to wonder about "strained" vs. "pulled" hammy.  it was reported
> > > to be "strained".  could it be worse and not reported ??
>
> > Good question.
>
> There are varying degrees of pulled hamstrings but like groin pulls,
> abdominal pulls, they are very tricky.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

there are four on each leg, no ???


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 1:56 pm
From: Michael


On Sep 28, 4:52 pm, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Sep 28, 4:39 pm, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 28, 3:21 pm, Johnny Morongo
>
> > <j.mireh...@harmonicconcordance.com> wrote:
> > > On Sep 28, 12:59 pm, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > > On Sep 28, 12:31 pm, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > We could use Pace this weekend to give Taylor and Thomas some rest so
> > > > > it is good news he is almost ready.  If Revis can return the following
> > > > > weekend for Favre that would help.
>
> > > > > When does Pool get to start?
>
> > > > i'd rather not rush pace... they should be able to get past the bills
> > > > with taylor and blt.  if revis is not back for the vikings game, i'd
> > > > start to wonder about "strained" vs. "pulled" hammy.  it was reported
> > > > to be "strained".  could it be worse and not reported ??
>
> > > Good question.
>
> > There are varying degrees of pulled hamstrings but like groin pulls,
> > abdominal pulls, they are very tricky.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> there are four on each leg, no ???- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

i mean four places where it can happen...

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TOPIC: Leon runs 2 KO's back for TD's in Seahawks win.
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 2:02 pm
From: graybeard


On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 21:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Tutor <dcat4434@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Sep 27, 12:12 pm, graybeard <graybe...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 06:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sep 26, 7:56 pm, graybeard <graybe...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> >> Including one that was a Seattle record for longest KO return. Nope,
>> >> he'll never recover from that injury, right Harlan? How's that McKnight
>> >> pick working out by the way?
>> >> --
>> >> graybeard
>>
>> >First, let me say that I am delighted Leon is doing well.  Lee is one
>> >of my favorite all time Jets and I wish him nothing but success.  The
>> >issue was the salary Leon was demanding combined with the risk from
>> >the injury.  I wish we could have kept him, but in the end, if Leon
>> >was able to perform, there was no way the Jets could meet what would
>> >have been his salary demands at the end of the 2010 season.
>>
>> Funny, that didn't seem to be an issue with the other players we signed
>> who are going to be looking for big contracts next year if they have
>> good seasons.
>>
>> >Thus the
>> >painful choice of sending him to Pete Carroll for just a 4th round
>> >pick.
>>
>> It was a 5th round pick, and I believe we sent them a 7th rounder along
>> with Leon for it.
>> --
>> graybeard
>
>ouch. that makes it worse. But I still understand it and don't have
>a problem with it. Maybe they knew they were going to get LT to
>compliment Greene. I wish Washington well.

Tutor, several of your statements above lead me to believe that a number
of supporters of this trade are basing their opinion on a faulty memory
of events.

3/14 - Jets sign Tomlinson to a 2 year contract
4/15 - Leon signs 1 year contract
4/24 (NFL Draft) - Jets trade 4th & 6th Round picks for Carolina's 4th
to draft Joe McKnight
4/24 (NFL Draft) - Jets trade Leon + 7th Round pick to Seattle for 5th
Round pick

So you see, they had already signed LT more than a month before they
traded Washington away. In addition, Tannenbaum was quoted as saying
that it was "a fair assumption" that they would not have traded Leon if
McKnight had not been available.

In other words, instead of the current personnel being:

Shonn
LT
McKnight
1st, 2nd, 4th, and 5th Round draft picks

It could have been:

Shonn
LT
Leon
1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th Round picks
--
graybeard


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 2:21 pm
From: graybeard


On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 17:02:16 -0400 graybeard <graybeard@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>In other words, instead of the current personnel being:
>
>Shonn
>LT
>McKnight
>1st, 2nd, 4th, and 5th Round draft picks
>
>It could have been:
>
>Shonn
>LT
>Leon
>1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th Round picks
>--

Must learn to proofread before sending. Should have read that it could
have been:

Shonn
LT
Leon
1st, 2nd, 4th, 6th, and 7th round picks.

Could have still drafted Connor with the later 4th rounder and kept Leon
plus 2 additional picks instead of the useless McKnight.
--
graybeard


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 7:01 pm
From: MZ


On 9/28/2010 5:02 PM, graybeard wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 21:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Tutor<dcat4434@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sep 27, 12:12 pm, graybeard<graybe...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 06:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Tutor<dcat4...@yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sep 26, 7:56 pm, graybeard<graybe...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> Including one that was a Seattle record for longest KO return. Nope,
>>>>> he'll never recover from that injury, right Harlan? How's that McKnight
>>>>> pick working out by the way?
>>>>> --
>>>>> graybeard
>>>
>>>> First, let me say that I am delighted Leon is doing well. Lee is one
>>>> of my favorite all time Jets and I wish him nothing but success. The
>>>> issue was the salary Leon was demanding combined with the risk from
>>>> the injury. I wish we could have kept him, but in the end, if Leon
>>>> was able to perform, there was no way the Jets could meet what would
>>>> have been his salary demands at the end of the 2010 season.
>>>
>>> Funny, that didn't seem to be an issue with the other players we signed
>>> who are going to be looking for big contracts next year if they have
>>> good seasons.
>>>
>>>> Thus the
>>>> painful choice of sending him to Pete Carroll for just a 4th round
>>>> pick.
>>>
>>> It was a 5th round pick, and I believe we sent them a 7th rounder along
>>> with Leon for it.
>>> --
>>> graybeard
>>
>> ouch. that makes it worse. But I still understand it and don't have
>> a problem with it. Maybe they knew they were going to get LT to
>> compliment Greene. I wish Washington well.
>
> Tutor, several of your statements above lead me to believe that a number
> of supporters of this trade are basing their opinion on a faulty memory
> of events.
>
> 3/14 - Jets sign Tomlinson to a 2 year contract
> 4/15 - Leon signs 1 year contract
> 4/24 (NFL Draft) - Jets trade 4th& 6th Round picks for Carolina's 4th
> to draft Joe McKnight
> 4/24 (NFL Draft) - Jets trade Leon + 7th Round pick to Seattle for 5th
> Round pick
>
> So you see, they had already signed LT more than a month before they
> traded Washington away. In addition, Tannenbaum was quoted as saying
> that it was "a fair assumption" that they would not have traded Leon if
> McKnight had not been available.
>
> In other words, instead of the current personnel being:
>
> Shonn
> LT
> McKnight
> 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 5th Round draft picks
>
> It could have been:
>
> Shonn
> LT
> Leon
> 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th Round picks

Are you sure that he signed is tender? If so, then that means he wasn't
going to hold out. Jackson and Mankins never signed their tenders, and
therefore aren't under contract. This is why they're holding out
without penalty.

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TOPIC: TV Viewing recommendations in NY/CT area.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/2636bdf1f3617b9a?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 2:48 pm
From: Glenn Greenstein


On Sep 28, 4:10 pm, Ian <spuorgelg...@ianwhitephoto.co.uk> wrote:
> Ok, so I've finally got my SlingBox installed ...
>
> What's the best channels/times/days to watch in the NY/CT area to :-
>
> catch up on NYJ football?
> catch upon football in general (NFL and college)
>
> Any other viewing recommendations?
>
> Cheers
>
> --
> Ian

What channels can you get? ESPN Sports center is pretty good recap in
30 minutes and is shown a million times a day. NFL network is 24 hour
a day football Pro


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 5:56 pm
From: buRford


On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 13:10:52 -0700 (PDT), Ian <spuorgelgoog@ianwhitephoto.co.uk> wrote:

>Ok, so I've finally got my SlingBox installed ...
>
>What's the best channels/times/days to watch in the NY/CT area to :-
>
>catch up on NYJ football?
>catch upon football in general (NFL and college)
>
>Any other viewing recommendations?
>
>Cheers

Go to http://web.sny.tv/teams/index.jsp?oid=36122 . Or for their schedule...
http://web.sny.tv/schedule/index.jsp
They have the most TV coverage on the Jets.
They do a full post-game with the full player pressers, and have daily shows & pressers.
Also, if ya just want to listen ever, 1050-ESPN radio in NY, covers the Jets. You can
stream it online.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/radio/story?page=new-york/listenlive
There's a couple of hours pregame, and usually at least 3 hours post game. Also, Mondays
around 5pm (local - probably 23 hrs your time) Rex is on live, Sanchez is on Tuesdays, and
Namath on Thursdays.
As for Jets games themselves, CBS-Ch2 covers most of their games (they cover the AFC).
Sundays at 11:30am (local), they have a half-hour, "Jets Flight Plan" program on the
upcoming game.
On the Jets website, the team schedule has what channel a game will be on.

Other than that, it's just general sports programming in NY.
Hope this helps ya, hombre...

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TOPIC: Pats D: How Bad Is It?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/1134943a98a05971?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 5:29 pm
From: Copp


From the Boston Globe:

"This is how bad the Patriots pass defense is going to be this year.
Ryan Fitzpatrick -- who has completed 58 percent of his passes
historically -- went on a 14-of-18 streak for 178 yards to end
the game. And it wasn't in mopup time, either, as only four of
the passes came while the Bills were down by more than eight points.
The Patriots were able to turn two of Fitzpatrick's incompletions
into interceptions, but if Ryan Fitzpatrick and the Bills offensive
line can move the ball comfortably on you..."


Right now they are giving up 27.3 pts a game. To match last year's
17.8 pts/gm, they will have to give up an average of 15.6 pts/game
from here on out. Can they do it? Will they even get to a
mediocre 20 pts/game this season? Is there a better chance that
they will end up as the all time worst defense? Will we even be able to boil
their stinkitude down to a single number? Discuss.

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 6:10 pm
From: buRford


On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 02:29:37 +0200 (CEST), Copp <cr79879@gmail.com> wrote:

>From the Boston Globe:
>
>"This is how bad the Patriots pass defense is going to be this year.
>Ryan Fitzpatrick -- who has completed 58 percent of his passes
>historically -- went on a 14-of-18 streak for 178 yards to end
>the game. And it wasn't in mopup time, either, as only four of
>the passes came while the Bills were down by more than eight points.
>The Patriots were able to turn two of Fitzpatrick's incompletions
>into interceptions, but if Ryan Fitzpatrick and the Bills offensive
>line can move the ball comfortably on you..."
>
>
>Right now they are giving up 27.3 pts a game. To match last year's
>17.8 pts/gm, they will have to give up an average of 15.6 pts/game
>from here on out. Can they do it? Will they even get to a
>mediocre 20 pts/game this season? Is there a better chance that
>they will end up as the all time worst defense? Will we even be able to boil
>their stinkitude down to a single number? Discuss.


This is the Jets NG. As long as the Jets take care of their business the rest of the
season, who gives a shat about the Pats.


== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 6:55 pm
From: MZ


On 9/28/2010 8:29 PM, Copp wrote:
> From the Boston Globe:
>
> "This is how bad the Patriots pass defense is going to be this year.
> Ryan Fitzpatrick -- who has completed 58 percent of his passes
> historically -- went on a 14-of-18 streak for 178 yards to end
> the game. And it wasn't in mopup time, either, as only four of
> the passes came while the Bills were down by more than eight points.
> The Patriots were able to turn two of Fitzpatrick's incompletions
> into interceptions, but if Ryan Fitzpatrick and the Bills offensive
> line can move the ball comfortably on you..."
>
>
> Right now they are giving up 27.3 pts a game.

No, I think it's 25 point something. Not a whole lot better. But it's
worth pointing out that their #1 ranked offense dominated two of their
three games, and the 2nd half prevent defense gave up some scores.
Maybe their prevent defense is a worry -- maybe one of these times a
team will actually be able to come back from a deficit (hasn't happened
yet). But so far, the reports of New England's D struggles are
overblown. If the officials hadn't given Buffalo a free TD last week,
then the Pats D would have given up a whopping 16 points. This is what
the Boston Globe is getting their panties in a twist about?

And why is this crossposted to the Jets NG??


== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 7:09 pm
From: Michael


On Sep 28, 9:55 pm, MZ <m...@nospam.void> wrote:
> On 9/28/2010 8:29 PM, Copp wrote:
>
> >  From the Boston Globe:
>
> > "This is how bad the Patriots pass defense is going to be this year.
> > Ryan Fitzpatrick -- who has completed 58 percent of his passes
> > historically -- went on a 14-of-18 streak for 178 yards to end
> > the game. And it wasn't in mopup time, either, as only four of
> > the passes came while the Bills were down by more than eight points.
> > The Patriots were able to turn two of Fitzpatrick's incompletions
> > into interceptions, but if Ryan Fitzpatrick and the Bills offensive
> > line can move the ball comfortably on you..."
>
> > Right now they are giving up 27.3 pts a game.
>
> No, I think it's 25 point something.  Not a whole lot better.  But it's
> worth pointing out that their #1 ranked offense dominated two of their
> three games, and the 2nd half prevent defense gave up some scores.
> Maybe their prevent defense is a worry -- maybe one of these times a
> team will actually be able to come back from a deficit (hasn't happened
> yet).  But so far, the reports of New England's D struggles are
> overblown.  If the officials hadn't given Buffalo a free TD last week,
> then the Pats D would have given up a whopping 16 points.  This is what
> the Boston Globe is getting their panties in a twist about?
>
> And why is this crossposted to the Jets NG??

the pats can still outscore 2/3 of the teams in the nfl. if they wan
to get back up to top five status, they need edge rushers and have to
fix the problems with the db's. injuries were costly there. still...
im beginning to think as are a lot of fans that bb feels he can throw
anything out there and still win with it no matter how inexperienced
or mediocre the talent.


== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 7:24 pm
From: MZ


On 9/28/2010 10:09 PM, Michael wrote:
> On Sep 28, 9:55 pm, MZ<m...@nospam.void> wrote:
>> On 9/28/2010 8:29 PM, Copp wrote:
>>
>>> From the Boston Globe:
>>
>>> "This is how bad the Patriots pass defense is going to be this year.
>>> Ryan Fitzpatrick -- who has completed 58 percent of his passes
>>> historically -- went on a 14-of-18 streak for 178 yards to end
>>> the game. And it wasn't in mopup time, either, as only four of
>>> the passes came while the Bills were down by more than eight points.
>>> The Patriots were able to turn two of Fitzpatrick's incompletions
>>> into interceptions, but if Ryan Fitzpatrick and the Bills offensive
>>> line can move the ball comfortably on you..."
>>
>>> Right now they are giving up 27.3 pts a game.
>>
>> No, I think it's 25 point something. Not a whole lot better. But it's
>> worth pointing out that their #1 ranked offense dominated two of their
>> three games, and the 2nd half prevent defense gave up some scores.
>> Maybe their prevent defense is a worry -- maybe one of these times a
>> team will actually be able to come back from a deficit (hasn't happened
>> yet). But so far, the reports of New England's D struggles are
>> overblown. If the officials hadn't given Buffalo a free TD last week,
>> then the Pats D would have given up a whopping 16 points. This is what
>> the Boston Globe is getting their panties in a twist about?
>>
>> And why is this crossposted to the Jets NG??
>
> the pats can still outscore 2/3 of the teams in the nfl. if they wan
> to get back up to top five status, they need edge rushers and have to
> fix the problems with the db's. injuries were costly there. still...
> im beginning to think as are a lot of fans that bb feels he can throw
> anything out there and still win with it no matter how inexperienced
> or mediocre the talent.

I think he's also overrated as a defensive coach. He's a terrific
offensive mind, but there's not much evidence that he can produce
results on defense in today's NFL. Sure, once upon a time, in a land
far far away, he coached an excellent defense. He hasn't done anything
on defense in 20 years, unless we want to count what Romeo Crennel did
for him between '01 and '04. Surprise surprise, '05 (when Mangini took
over as DC) was the first year the Pats D became pedestrian. Mangini's
different -- he just doesn't know much about defense. How he's still an
NFL coach is mind boggling. Belichick does know about defense, but he
can't produce. He's incapable of molding his defensive philosophy to
fit the personnel he has.

Meanwhile, Crennel is coaching a defense that's currently presently
ranked in the top 3. Quick, name a Chiefs defensive player! Exactly.

Pats D will remain middle of the road. They won't become the debacle
that everyone's saying, but they also won't win games for the team
either. The question is, and always has been, whether or not Brady and
co. can dominate. With Faulk gone, I'm beginning to have my doubts.


== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 7:39 pm
From: "mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu"


On Sep 28, 10:24 pm, MZ <m...@nospam.void> wrote:

>
> Pats D will remain middle of the road.  They won't become the debacle
> that everyone's saying, but they also won't win games for the team
> either.  The question is, and always has been, whether or not Brady and
> co. can dominate.  With Faulk gone, I'm beginning to have my doubts.

Faulks gone. Maroney was traded.

Moss is as old as Blanda and is being a bitch begging for more money.

Mankins told Belichick to go fuck himself.

Brady won't throw a long pass because he is afraid it will mess up his
hair.

This is a team in turmoil.

Just like Belichick caused the Browns to move, the new Patriots will
be the L.A. Patriots!!!

mr dude (never wrong)


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 7:45 pm
From: buRford


Tell yer friends, family, coworkers, enemies, pets, etc

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