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TOPIC: Why the Jet's schedule is even harder than it looks
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== 1 of 12 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 11 2010 11:07 am
From: Keith Keller
On 2010-11-11, Michael <mjd1966@verizon.net> wrote:
> If you consider the "side stories", the Jet schedule is probably one
> of the hardest that any team has to face.
[schedule snipped]
You might be right, but don't the other AFC East teams play almost the
exact same schedule? The only real differences are the ones specific to
the Jets (Ryan's old team, Favre's new team, Mangini's new team).
And if you think about it, it's not like Pittsburgh's schedule is all
that much easier, with their own tough division, tough AFC East games,
and Atlanta and New Orleans from the NFC South.
--keith
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== 2 of 12 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 11 2010 11:15 am
From: Glenn Greenstein
On Nov 11, 1:16 pm, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Nov 11, 1:06 pm, Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 11, 12:17 pm, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 11, 12:10 pm, Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Nov 11, 9:53 am, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > If you consider the "side stories", the Jet schedule is probably one
> > > > > of the hardest that any team has to face.
>
> > > > > 1. Ravens: Rex's old team. Unquestionably, the Ravens wanted to show
> > > > > Rex and the Jets that they "had it" even without Rex.
>
> > > > > 2. Patriots: No explanation needed.
>
> > > > > 3. Fish: All sorts of trash talk to add to the standard div rivalry.
> > > > > No question that the Fish were jacked up to the full
>
> > > > > 4. Buff: Not playing at a high level, but still a div rival.
>
> > > > > 5. Vikes. Fava Bean back in town. The Favre factor added in to
> > > > > things. Not just another game. Lots of energy and emotion.
>
> > > > > 6. Denver. Always tuff at home, and they badly needed a win. They
> > > > > came loaded to bare and wanted this game.
>
> > > > > 7. Packers. Also badly needed a win and were focused on getting back
> > > > > on track.
>
> > > > > 8. Lions. They knew they had a chance to make a statement by beatign
> > > > > the Jets. Lots of trash talk about how many points they would score.
> > > > > Detroit clearly WANTED this game and were primed to take a step up.
> > > > > Not just another game. Not at all.
>
> > > > > 9. Browns. My goodness... This one looked easy at the beginning of
> > > > > the year and now it is a tuff one. Mangini WANTS the game and the
> > > > > Browns are jacked up. They just beat the Pats. A cake walk now
> > > > > turned ito a dog fight.
>
> > > > > 10. Texans. Yay !!!! They have no real reason to want to kill the
> > > > > Jets. I expect the Jets take this one easy.
>
> > > > > 11. Bengals. They want revenge.
>
> > > > > 12. Pats. BB and Brady at home. Oh no !
>
> > > > > 13. Fish. Fish will be jacked up of course. Long history of trash
> > > > > talk... "Sweep" and so on... And... Now... Chadwick is back.
>
> > > > > 14. Squeelers. Jets have to face the Squeelers AND the league
> > > > > officials. I expect the Jets to out play them, but still lose due to
> > > > > "phantom" calls against them and "no calls" against the Squeelers.
>
> > > > > 15. Chicago. Wow... Another game that does not have any added
> > > > > gusto.
>
> > > > > 16. Buff. Another rest but still a div rival.
>
> > > > > So... You see... The Jets have a brutal time of it. Not just 16
> > > > > games here. Only The Bears and the Texans dont have any extra added
> > > > > reason to want to KO the "fuckin' Jets".
>
> > > > The way I see it, they line up 11 and so do we. Team that makes more
> > > > plays wins, all the rest of this garbage is non sense. Just because we
> > > > trash talk or have a rivalry for whatever reason does not enable the
> > > > RB to break more tackles or the WR's to catch more passes.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > football is the most emotional of all the sports... no matter what
> > > they say about a game just being another game. that is why a ravens
> > > vs steelers or oakland vs KC or vikes vs gb are so often such wild
> > > hard hitting games...- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Based on what Michael? Do you think for a second the Yankees don't
> > want to beat the shit out of the Red Sox or the Mets don't want to
> > stomp the life out of Philly. Doesn't every team in the NBA want to
> > shit on Miami? Some of the most bitter rivalries I can remember are
> > actually basketball between the Knicks and Miami Heat of the 80's and
> > 90's and too a lesser extent Indiana. Those teams really hated each
> > other to the point of bench clearing brawls and constant fights and
> > this was basketball which is thought to be a non contact sport. I
> > don't think the Knicks hating the Heat or the Sox hating the Yankees
> > ever won a game for anyone just like the fact that the Jets have hated
> > the Pats for about the last 5 years ever won them any more games.
> > BTW, it's the Broncos that the Raiders hate, not KC. That's just a
> > division game to them.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> huh ??? the raiders may hate the broncos too there is no love between
> them and kc. i dont agree with what you say above... football is not
> played in a vacuum. especially not football... there are lots of
> examples of a lesser team "wanting it more" and then going out and
> pulling off an upset. you cant play football unless you have the
> right mind set. you also need emotional leaders on your team.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Right, wanting it more is what wins games. The team that want's it
more makes the extra effort to make the play. I never said effort
didn't matter, what I am saying is this revenge thing you are thinking
that is going to give the Bengals an edge is BS. Also, emotion is not
a good thing in any situation. More times than not the guy that can
control his emotions is the guy that performs better.
== 3 of 12 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 11 2010 12:27 pm
From: Michael
On Nov 11, 2:15 pm, Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 11, 1:16 pm, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 11, 1:06 pm, Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 11, 12:17 pm, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > > On Nov 11, 12:10 pm, Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Nov 11, 9:53 am, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > If you consider the "side stories", the Jet schedule is probably one
> > > > > > of the hardest that any team has to face.
>
> > > > > > 1. Ravens: Rex's old team. Unquestionably, the Ravens wanted to show
> > > > > > Rex and the Jets that they "had it" even without Rex.
>
> > > > > > 2. Patriots: No explanation needed.
>
> > > > > > 3. Fish: All sorts of trash talk to add to the standard div rivalry.
> > > > > > No question that the Fish were jacked up to the full
>
> > > > > > 4. Buff: Not playing at a high level, but still a div rival.
>
> > > > > > 5. Vikes. Fava Bean back in town. The Favre factor added in to
> > > > > > things. Not just another game. Lots of energy and emotion.
>
> > > > > > 6. Denver. Always tuff at home, and they badly needed a win. They
> > > > > > came loaded to bare and wanted this game.
>
> > > > > > 7. Packers. Also badly needed a win and were focused on getting back
> > > > > > on track.
>
> > > > > > 8. Lions. They knew they had a chance to make a statement by beatign
> > > > > > the Jets. Lots of trash talk about how many points they would score.
> > > > > > Detroit clearly WANTED this game and were primed to take a step up.
> > > > > > Not just another game. Not at all.
>
> > > > > > 9. Browns. My goodness... This one looked easy at the beginning of
> > > > > > the year and now it is a tuff one. Mangini WANTS the game and the
> > > > > > Browns are jacked up. They just beat the Pats. A cake walk now
> > > > > > turned ito a dog fight.
>
> > > > > > 10. Texans. Yay !!!! They have no real reason to want to kill the
> > > > > > Jets. I expect the Jets take this one easy.
>
> > > > > > 11. Bengals. They want revenge.
>
> > > > > > 12. Pats. BB and Brady at home. Oh no !
>
> > > > > > 13. Fish. Fish will be jacked up of course. Long history of trash
> > > > > > talk... "Sweep" and so on... And... Now... Chadwick is back.
>
> > > > > > 14. Squeelers. Jets have to face the Squeelers AND the league
> > > > > > officials. I expect the Jets to out play them, but still lose due to
> > > > > > "phantom" calls against them and "no calls" against the Squeelers.
>
> > > > > > 15. Chicago. Wow... Another game that does not have any added
> > > > > > gusto.
>
> > > > > > 16. Buff. Another rest but still a div rival.
>
> > > > > > So... You see... The Jets have a brutal time of it. Not just 16
> > > > > > games here. Only The Bears and the Texans dont have any extra added
> > > > > > reason to want to KO the "fuckin' Jets".
>
> > > > > The way I see it, they line up 11 and so do we. Team that makes more
> > > > > plays wins, all the rest of this garbage is non sense. Just because we
> > > > > trash talk or have a rivalry for whatever reason does not enable the
> > > > > RB to break more tackles or the WR's to catch more passes.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > football is the most emotional of all the sports... no matter what
> > > > they say about a game just being another game. that is why a ravens
> > > > vs steelers or oakland vs KC or vikes vs gb are so often such wild
> > > > hard hitting games...- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Based on what Michael? Do you think for a second the Yankees don't
> > > want to beat the shit out of the Red Sox or the Mets don't want to
> > > stomp the life out of Philly. Doesn't every team in the NBA want to
> > > shit on Miami? Some of the most bitter rivalries I can remember are
> > > actually basketball between the Knicks and Miami Heat of the 80's and
> > > 90's and too a lesser extent Indiana. Those teams really hated each
> > > other to the point of bench clearing brawls and constant fights and
> > > this was basketball which is thought to be a non contact sport. I
> > > don't think the Knicks hating the Heat or the Sox hating the Yankees
> > > ever won a game for anyone just like the fact that the Jets have hated
> > > the Pats for about the last 5 years ever won them any more games.
> > > BTW, it's the Broncos that the Raiders hate, not KC. That's just a
> > > division game to them.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > huh ??? the raiders may hate the broncos too there is no love between
> > them and kc. i dont agree with what you say above... football is not
> > played in a vacuum. especially not football... there are lots of
> > examples of a lesser team "wanting it more" and then going out and
> > pulling off an upset. you cant play football unless you have the
> > right mind set. you also need emotional leaders on your team.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Right, wanting it more is what wins games. The team that want's it
> more makes the extra effort to make the play. I never said effort
> didn't matter, what I am saying is this revenge thing you are thinking
> that is going to give the Bengals an edge is BS. Also, emotion is not
> a good thing in any situation. More times than not the guy that can
> control his emotions is the guy that performs better.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
huh ??? emotion is everything as far as the human condition goes. in
all matters. having emotion does not mean you are out of control. do
players get "psyched" before games or do they put on some of
Schubert's chamber music and sit on the couch to calm down a bit ???
== 4 of 12 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 11 2010 12:34 pm
From: Glenn Greenstein
On Nov 11, 3:27 pm, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Nov 11, 2:15 pm, Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 11, 1:16 pm, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 11, 1:06 pm, Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Nov 11, 12:17 pm, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Nov 11, 12:10 pm, Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Nov 11, 9:53 am, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > If you consider the "side stories", the Jet schedule is probably one
> > > > > > > of the hardest that any team has to face.
>
> > > > > > > 1. Ravens: Rex's old team. Unquestionably, the Ravens wanted to show
> > > > > > > Rex and the Jets that they "had it" even without Rex.
>
> > > > > > > 2. Patriots: No explanation needed.
>
> > > > > > > 3. Fish: All sorts of trash talk to add to the standard div rivalry.
> > > > > > > No question that the Fish were jacked up to the full
>
> > > > > > > 4. Buff: Not playing at a high level, but still a div rival.
>
> > > > > > > 5. Vikes. Fava Bean back in town. The Favre factor added in to
> > > > > > > things. Not just another game. Lots of energy and emotion.
>
> > > > > > > 6. Denver. Always tuff at home, and they badly needed a win. They
> > > > > > > came loaded to bare and wanted this game.
>
> > > > > > > 7. Packers. Also badly needed a win and were focused on getting back
> > > > > > > on track.
>
> > > > > > > 8. Lions. They knew they had a chance to make a statement by beatign
> > > > > > > the Jets. Lots of trash talk about how many points they would score.
> > > > > > > Detroit clearly WANTED this game and were primed to take a step up.
> > > > > > > Not just another game. Not at all.
>
> > > > > > > 9. Browns. My goodness... This one looked easy at the beginning of
> > > > > > > the year and now it is a tuff one. Mangini WANTS the game and the
> > > > > > > Browns are jacked up. They just beat the Pats. A cake walk now
> > > > > > > turned ito a dog fight.
>
> > > > > > > 10. Texans. Yay !!!! They have no real reason to want to kill the
> > > > > > > Jets. I expect the Jets take this one easy.
>
> > > > > > > 11. Bengals. They want revenge.
>
> > > > > > > 12. Pats. BB and Brady at home. Oh no !
>
> > > > > > > 13. Fish. Fish will be jacked up of course. Long history of trash
> > > > > > > talk... "Sweep" and so on... And... Now... Chadwick is back.
>
> > > > > > > 14. Squeelers. Jets have to face the Squeelers AND the league
> > > > > > > officials. I expect the Jets to out play them, but still lose due to
> > > > > > > "phantom" calls against them and "no calls" against the Squeelers.
>
> > > > > > > 15. Chicago. Wow... Another game that does not have any added
> > > > > > > gusto.
>
> > > > > > > 16. Buff. Another rest but still a div rival.
>
> > > > > > > So... You see... The Jets have a brutal time of it. Not just 16
> > > > > > > games here. Only The Bears and the Texans dont have any extra added
> > > > > > > reason to want to KO the "fuckin' Jets".
>
> > > > > > The way I see it, they line up 11 and so do we. Team that makes more
> > > > > > plays wins, all the rest of this garbage is non sense. Just because we
> > > > > > trash talk or have a rivalry for whatever reason does not enable the
> > > > > > RB to break more tackles or the WR's to catch more passes.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > > football is the most emotional of all the sports... no matter what
> > > > > they say about a game just being another game. that is why a ravens
> > > > > vs steelers or oakland vs KC or vikes vs gb are so often such wild
> > > > > hard hitting games...- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > Based on what Michael? Do you think for a second the Yankees don't
> > > > want to beat the shit out of the Red Sox or the Mets don't want to
> > > > stomp the life out of Philly. Doesn't every team in the NBA want to
> > > > shit on Miami? Some of the most bitter rivalries I can remember are
> > > > actually basketball between the Knicks and Miami Heat of the 80's and
> > > > 90's and too a lesser extent Indiana. Those teams really hated each
> > > > other to the point of bench clearing brawls and constant fights and
> > > > this was basketball which is thought to be a non contact sport. I
> > > > don't think the Knicks hating the Heat or the Sox hating the Yankees
> > > > ever won a game for anyone just like the fact that the Jets have hated
> > > > the Pats for about the last 5 years ever won them any more games.
> > > > BTW, it's the Broncos that the Raiders hate, not KC. That's just a
> > > > division game to them.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > huh ??? the raiders may hate the broncos too there is no love between
> > > them and kc. i dont agree with what you say above... football is not
> > > played in a vacuum. especially not football... there are lots of
> > > examples of a lesser team "wanting it more" and then going out and
> > > pulling off an upset. you cant play football unless you have the
> > > right mind set. you also need emotional leaders on your team.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Right, wanting it more is what wins games. The team that want's it
> > more makes the extra effort to make the play. I never said effort
> > didn't matter, what I am saying is this revenge thing you are thinking
> > that is going to give the Bengals an edge is BS. Also, emotion is not
> > a good thing in any situation. More times than not the guy that can
> > control his emotions is the guy that performs better.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> huh ??? emotion is everything as far as the human condition goes. in
> all matters. having emotion does not mean you are out of control. do
> players get "psyched" before games or do they put on some of
> Schubert's chamber music and sit on the couch to calm down a bit ???- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Yeah, emotion is good, just like when Scott threw that guy from
Detroit off the pile and got a 15 yard penalty. Don't want be calm and
collected in that situation.
== 5 of 12 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 11 2010 12:44 pm
From: Michael
On Nov 11, 3:34 pm, Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 11, 3:27 pm, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 11, 2:15 pm, Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 11, 1:16 pm, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > > On Nov 11, 1:06 pm, Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Nov 11, 12:17 pm, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Nov 11, 12:10 pm, Glenn Greenstein <lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Nov 11, 9:53 am, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > If you consider the "side stories", the Jet schedule is probably one
> > > > > > > > of the hardest that any team has to face.
>
> > > > > > > > 1. Ravens: Rex's old team. Unquestionably, the Ravens wanted to show
> > > > > > > > Rex and the Jets that they "had it" even without Rex.
>
> > > > > > > > 2. Patriots: No explanation needed.
>
> > > > > > > > 3. Fish: All sorts of trash talk to add to the standard div rivalry.
> > > > > > > > No question that the Fish were jacked up to the full
>
> > > > > > > > 4. Buff: Not playing at a high level, but still a div rival.
>
> > > > > > > > 5. Vikes. Fava Bean back in town. The Favre factor added in to
> > > > > > > > things. Not just another game. Lots of energy and emotion.
>
> > > > > > > > 6. Denver. Always tuff at home, and they badly needed a win. They
> > > > > > > > came loaded to bare and wanted this game.
>
> > > > > > > > 7. Packers. Also badly needed a win and were focused on getting back
> > > > > > > > on track.
>
> > > > > > > > 8. Lions. They knew they had a chance to make a statement by beatign
> > > > > > > > the Jets. Lots of trash talk about how many points they would score.
> > > > > > > > Detroit clearly WANTED this game and were primed to take a step up.
> > > > > > > > Not just another game. Not at all.
>
> > > > > > > > 9. Browns. My goodness... This one looked easy at the beginning of
> > > > > > > > the year and now it is a tuff one. Mangini WANTS the game and the
> > > > > > > > Browns are jacked up. They just beat the Pats. A cake walk now
> > > > > > > > turned ito a dog fight.
>
> > > > > > > > 10. Texans. Yay !!!! They have no real reason to want to kill the
> > > > > > > > Jets. I expect the Jets take this one easy.
>
> > > > > > > > 11. Bengals. They want revenge.
>
> > > > > > > > 12. Pats. BB and Brady at home. Oh no !
>
> > > > > > > > 13. Fish. Fish will be jacked up of course. Long history of trash
> > > > > > > > talk... "Sweep" and so on... And... Now... Chadwick is back.
>
> > > > > > > > 14. Squeelers. Jets have to face the Squeelers AND the league
> > > > > > > > officials. I expect the Jets to out play them, but still lose due to
> > > > > > > > "phantom" calls against them and "no calls" against the Squeelers.
>
> > > > > > > > 15. Chicago. Wow... Another game that does not have any added
> > > > > > > > gusto.
>
> > > > > > > > 16. Buff. Another rest but still a div rival.
>
> > > > > > > > So... You see... The Jets have a brutal time of it. Not just 16
> > > > > > > > games here. Only The Bears and the Texans dont have any extra added
> > > > > > > > reason to want to KO the "fuckin' Jets".
>
> > > > > > > The way I see it, they line up 11 and so do we. Team that makes more
> > > > > > > plays wins, all the rest of this garbage is non sense. Just because we
> > > > > > > trash talk or have a rivalry for whatever reason does not enable the
> > > > > > > RB to break more tackles or the WR's to catch more passes.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > > > football is the most emotional of all the sports... no matter what
> > > > > > they say about a game just being another game. that is why a ravens
> > > > > > vs steelers or oakland vs KC or vikes vs gb are so often such wild
> > > > > > hard hitting games...- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > > Based on what Michael? Do you think for a second the Yankees don't
> > > > > want to beat the shit out of the Red Sox or the Mets don't want to
> > > > > stomp the life out of Philly. Doesn't every team in the NBA want to
> > > > > shit on Miami? Some of the most bitter rivalries I can remember are
> > > > > actually basketball between the Knicks and Miami Heat of the 80's and
> > > > > 90's and too a lesser extent Indiana. Those teams really hated each
> > > > > other to the point of bench clearing brawls and constant fights and
> > > > > this was basketball which is thought to be a non contact sport. I
> > > > > don't think the Knicks hating the Heat or the Sox hating the Yankees
> > > > > ever won a game for anyone just like the fact that the Jets have hated
> > > > > the Pats for about the last 5 years ever won them any more games.
> > > > > BTW, it's the Broncos that the Raiders hate, not KC. That's just a
> > > > > division game to them.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > huh ??? the raiders may hate the broncos too there is no love between
> > > > them and kc. i dont agree with what you say above... football is not
> > > > played in a vacuum. especially not football... there are lots of
> > > > examples of a lesser team "wanting it more" and then going out and
> > > > pulling off an upset. you cant play football unless you have the
> > > > right mind set. you also need emotional leaders on your team.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Right, wanting it more is what wins games. The team that want's it
> > > more makes the extra effort to make the play. I never said effort
> > > didn't matter, what I am saying is this revenge thing you are thinking
> > > that is going to give the Bengals an edge is BS. Also, emotion is not
> > > a good thing in any situation. More times than not the guy that can
> > > control his emotions is the guy that performs better.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > huh ??? emotion is everything as far as the human condition goes. in
> > all matters. having emotion does not mean you are out of control. do
> > players get "psyched" before games or do they put on some of
> > Schubert's chamber music and sit on the couch to calm down a bit ???- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Yeah, emotion is good, just like when Scott threw that guy from
> Detroit off the pile and got a 15 yard penalty. Don't want be calm and
> collected in that situation.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
scott lost it... again... as far as emotion and sports go... no need
to throw the baby out with the bath water... emotion is good. loss if
control is not.
== 6 of 12 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 11 2010 1:01 pm
From: Deadmeat
On 11/11/2010 3:27 PM, Michael wrote:
> On Nov 11, 2:15 pm, Glenn Greenstein<lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 11, 1:16 pm, Michael<mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 11, 1:06 pm, Glenn Greenstein<lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> On Nov 11, 12:17 pm, Michael<mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>> On Nov 11, 12:10 pm, Glenn Greenstein<lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> On Nov 11, 9:53 am, Michael<mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> If you consider the "side stories", the Jet schedule is probably one
>>>>>>> of the hardest that any team has to face.
>>
>>>>>>> 1. Ravens: Rex's old team. Unquestionably, the Ravens wanted to show
>>>>>>> Rex and the Jets that they "had it" even without Rex.
>>
>>>>>>> 2. Patriots: No explanation needed.
>>
>>>>>>> 3. Fish: All sorts of trash talk to add to the standard div rivalry.
>>>>>>> No question that the Fish were jacked up to the full
>>
>>>>>>> 4. Buff: Not playing at a high level, but still a div rival.
>>
>>>>>>> 5. Vikes. Fava Bean back in town. The Favre factor added in to
>>>>>>> things. Not just another game. Lots of energy and emotion.
>>
>>>>>>> 6. Denver. Always tuff at home, and they badly needed a win. They
>>>>>>> came loaded to bare and wanted this game.
>>
>>>>>>> 7. Packers. Also badly needed a win and were focused on getting back
>>>>>>> on track.
>>
>>>>>>> 8. Lions. They knew they had a chance to make a statement by beatign
>>>>>>> the Jets. Lots of trash talk about how many points they would score.
>>>>>>> Detroit clearly WANTED this game and were primed to take a step up.
>>>>>>> Not just another game. Not at all.
>>
>>>>>>> 9. Browns. My goodness... This one looked easy at the beginning of
>>>>>>> the year and now it is a tuff one. Mangini WANTS the game and the
>>>>>>> Browns are jacked up. They just beat the Pats. A cake walk now
>>>>>>> turned ito a dog fight.
>>
>>>>>>> 10. Texans. Yay !!!! They have no real reason to want to kill the
>>>>>>> Jets. I expect the Jets take this one easy.
>>
>>>>>>> 11. Bengals. They want revenge.
>>
>>>>>>> 12. Pats. BB and Brady at home. Oh no !
>>
>>>>>>> 13. Fish. Fish will be jacked up of course. Long history of trash
>>>>>>> talk... "Sweep" and so on... And... Now... Chadwick is back.
>>
>>>>>>> 14. Squeelers. Jets have to face the Squeelers AND the league
>>>>>>> officials. I expect the Jets to out play them, but still lose due to
>>>>>>> "phantom" calls against them and "no calls" against the Squeelers.
>>
>>>>>>> 15. Chicago. Wow... Another game that does not have any added
>>>>>>> gusto.
>>
>>>>>>> 16. Buff. Another rest but still a div rival.
>>
>>>>>>> So... You see... The Jets have a brutal time of it. Not just 16
>>>>>>> games here. Only The Bears and the Texans dont have any extra added
>>>>>>> reason to want to KO the "fuckin' Jets".
>>
>>>>>> The way I see it, they line up 11 and so do we. Team that makes more
>>>>>> plays wins, all the rest of this garbage is non sense. Just because we
>>>>>> trash talk or have a rivalry for whatever reason does not enable the
>>>>>> RB to break more tackles or the WR's to catch more passes.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>>>> football is the most emotional of all the sports... no matter what
>>>>> they say about a game just being another game. that is why a ravens
>>>>> vs steelers or oakland vs KC or vikes vs gb are so often such wild
>>>>> hard hitting games...- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>>> Based on what Michael? Do you think for a second the Yankees don't
>>>> want to beat the shit out of the Red Sox or the Mets don't want to
>>>> stomp the life out of Philly. Doesn't every team in the NBA want to
>>>> shit on Miami? Some of the most bitter rivalries I can remember are
>>>> actually basketball between the Knicks and Miami Heat of the 80's and
>>>> 90's and too a lesser extent Indiana. Those teams really hated each
>>>> other to the point of bench clearing brawls and constant fights and
>>>> this was basketball which is thought to be a non contact sport. I
>>>> don't think the Knicks hating the Heat or the Sox hating the Yankees
>>>> ever won a game for anyone just like the fact that the Jets have hated
>>>> the Pats for about the last 5 years ever won them any more games.
>>>> BTW, it's the Broncos that the Raiders hate, not KC. That's just a
>>>> division game to them.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>> huh ??? the raiders may hate the broncos too there is no love between
>>> them and kc. i dont agree with what you say above... football is not
>>> played in a vacuum. especially not football... there are lots of
>>> examples of a lesser team "wanting it more" and then going out and
>>> pulling off an upset. you cant play football unless you have the
>>> right mind set. you also need emotional leaders on your team.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> Right, wanting it more is what wins games. The team that want's it
>> more makes the extra effort to make the play. I never said effort
>> didn't matter, what I am saying is this revenge thing you are thinking
>> that is going to give the Bengals an edge is BS. Also, emotion is not
>> a good thing in any situation. More times than not the guy that can
>> control his emotions is the guy that performs better.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> huh ??? emotion is everything as far as the human condition goes. in
> all matters. having emotion does not mean you are out of control. do
> players get "psyched" before games or do they put on some of
> Schubert's chamber music and sit on the couch to calm down a bit ???
They do both, genius.
== 7 of 12 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 11 2010 1:28 pm
From: Michael
On Nov 11, 4:01 pm, Deadmeat <no...@home.com> wrote:
> On 11/11/2010 3:27 PM, Michael wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 11, 2:15 pm, Glenn Greenstein<lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Nov 11, 1:16 pm, Michael<mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >>> On Nov 11, 1:06 pm, Glenn Greenstein<lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> On Nov 11, 12:17 pm, Michael<mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>> On Nov 11, 12:10 pm, Glenn Greenstein<lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> On Nov 11, 9:53 am, Michael<mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> If you consider the "side stories", the Jet schedule is probably one
> >>>>>>> of the hardest that any team has to face.
>
> >>>>>>> 1. Ravens: Rex's old team. Unquestionably, the Ravens wanted to show
> >>>>>>> Rex and the Jets that they "had it" even without Rex.
>
> >>>>>>> 2. Patriots: No explanation needed.
>
> >>>>>>> 3. Fish: All sorts of trash talk to add to the standard div rivalry.
> >>>>>>> No question that the Fish were jacked up to the full
>
> >>>>>>> 4. Buff: Not playing at a high level, but still a div rival.
>
> >>>>>>> 5. Vikes. Fava Bean back in town. The Favre factor added in to
> >>>>>>> things. Not just another game. Lots of energy and emotion.
>
> >>>>>>> 6. Denver. Always tuff at home, and they badly needed a win. They
> >>>>>>> came loaded to bare and wanted this game.
>
> >>>>>>> 7. Packers. Also badly needed a win and were focused on getting back
> >>>>>>> on track.
>
> >>>>>>> 8. Lions. They knew they had a chance to make a statement by beatign
> >>>>>>> the Jets. Lots of trash talk about how many points they would score.
> >>>>>>> Detroit clearly WANTED this game and were primed to take a step up.
> >>>>>>> Not just another game. Not at all.
>
> >>>>>>> 9. Browns. My goodness... This one looked easy at the beginning of
> >>>>>>> the year and now it is a tuff one. Mangini WANTS the game and the
> >>>>>>> Browns are jacked up. They just beat the Pats. A cake walk now
> >>>>>>> turned ito a dog fight.
>
> >>>>>>> 10. Texans. Yay !!!! They have no real reason to want to kill the
> >>>>>>> Jets. I expect the Jets take this one easy.
>
> >>>>>>> 11. Bengals. They want revenge.
>
> >>>>>>> 12. Pats. BB and Brady at home. Oh no !
>
> >>>>>>> 13. Fish. Fish will be jacked up of course. Long history of trash
> >>>>>>> talk... "Sweep" and so on... And... Now... Chadwick is back.
>
> >>>>>>> 14. Squeelers. Jets have to face the Squeelers AND the league
> >>>>>>> officials. I expect the Jets to out play them, but still lose due to
> >>>>>>> "phantom" calls against them and "no calls" against the Squeelers.
>
> >>>>>>> 15. Chicago. Wow... Another game that does not have any added
> >>>>>>> gusto.
>
> >>>>>>> 16. Buff. Another rest but still a div rival.
>
> >>>>>>> So... You see... The Jets have a brutal time of it. Not just 16
> >>>>>>> games here. Only The Bears and the Texans dont have any extra added
> >>>>>>> reason to want to KO the "fuckin' Jets".
>
> >>>>>> The way I see it, they line up 11 and so do we. Team that makes more
> >>>>>> plays wins, all the rest of this garbage is non sense. Just because we
> >>>>>> trash talk or have a rivalry for whatever reason does not enable the
> >>>>>> RB to break more tackles or the WR's to catch more passes.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>
> >>>>> football is the most emotional of all the sports... no matter what
> >>>>> they say about a game just being another game. that is why a ravens
> >>>>> vs steelers or oakland vs KC or vikes vs gb are so often such wild
> >>>>> hard hitting games...- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>>>> - Show quoted text -
>
> >>>> Based on what Michael? Do you think for a second the Yankees don't
> >>>> want to beat the shit out of the Red Sox or the Mets don't want to
> >>>> stomp the life out of Philly. Doesn't every team in the NBA want to
> >>>> shit on Miami? Some of the most bitter rivalries I can remember are
> >>>> actually basketball between the Knicks and Miami Heat of the 80's and
> >>>> 90's and too a lesser extent Indiana. Those teams really hated each
> >>>> other to the point of bench clearing brawls and constant fights and
> >>>> this was basketball which is thought to be a non contact sport. I
> >>>> don't think the Knicks hating the Heat or the Sox hating the Yankees
> >>>> ever won a game for anyone just like the fact that the Jets have hated
> >>>> the Pats for about the last 5 years ever won them any more games.
> >>>> BTW, it's the Broncos that the Raiders hate, not KC. That's just a
> >>>> division game to them.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>>> - Show quoted text -
>
> >>> huh ??? the raiders may hate the broncos too there is no love between
> >>> them and kc. i dont agree with what you say above... football is not
> >>> played in a vacuum. especially not football... there are lots of
> >>> examples of a lesser team "wanting it more" and then going out and
> >>> pulling off an upset. you cant play football unless you have the
> >>> right mind set. you also need emotional leaders on your team.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>> - Show quoted text -
>
> >> Right, wanting it more is what wins games. The team that want's it
> >> more makes the extra effort to make the play. I never said effort
> >> didn't matter, what I am saying is this revenge thing you are thinking
> >> that is going to give the Bengals an edge is BS. Also, emotion is not
> >> a good thing in any situation. More times than not the guy that can
> >> control his emotions is the guy that performs better.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > huh ??? emotion is everything as far as the human condition goes. in
> > all matters. having emotion does not mean you are out of control. do
> > players get "psyched" before games or do they put on some of
> > Schubert's chamber music and sit on the couch to calm down a bit ???
>
> They do both, genius.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
no need to get pissy... just because your team sucks
they listen to chamber music on the sidelines just before the game
starts ??? i see them do everything BUT relax and mellow out. i can
understand that they dont want to peak and burn up energy hours before
the game... but not minutes before it.
== 8 of 12 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 11 2010 2:23 pm
From: Deadmeat
On 11/11/2010 4:28 PM, Michael wrote:
> On Nov 11, 4:01 pm, Deadmeat<no...@home.com> wrote:
>> On 11/11/2010 3:27 PM, Michael wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 11, 2:15 pm, Glenn Greenstein<lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Nov 11, 1:16 pm, Michael<mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>> On Nov 11, 1:06 pm, Glenn Greenstein<lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> On Nov 11, 12:17 pm, Michael<mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 11, 12:10 pm, Glenn Greenstein<lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 11, 9:53 am, Michael<mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>> If you consider the "side stories", the Jet schedule is probably one
>>>>>>>>> of the hardest that any team has to face.
>>
>>>>>>>>> 1. Ravens: Rex's old team. Unquestionably, the Ravens wanted to show
>>>>>>>>> Rex and the Jets that they "had it" even without Rex.
>>
>>>>>>>>> 2. Patriots: No explanation needed.
>>
>>>>>>>>> 3. Fish: All sorts of trash talk to add to the standard div rivalry.
>>>>>>>>> No question that the Fish were jacked up to the full
>>
>>>>>>>>> 4. Buff: Not playing at a high level, but still a div rival.
>>
>>>>>>>>> 5. Vikes. Fava Bean back in town. The Favre factor added in to
>>>>>>>>> things. Not just another game. Lots of energy and emotion.
>>
>>>>>>>>> 6. Denver. Always tuff at home, and they badly needed a win. They
>>>>>>>>> came loaded to bare and wanted this game.
>>
>>>>>>>>> 7. Packers. Also badly needed a win and were focused on getting back
>>>>>>>>> on track.
>>
>>>>>>>>> 8. Lions. They knew they had a chance to make a statement by beatign
>>>>>>>>> the Jets. Lots of trash talk about how many points they would score.
>>>>>>>>> Detroit clearly WANTED this game and were primed to take a step up.
>>>>>>>>> Not just another game. Not at all.
>>
>>>>>>>>> 9. Browns. My goodness... This one looked easy at the beginning of
>>>>>>>>> the year and now it is a tuff one. Mangini WANTS the game and the
>>>>>>>>> Browns are jacked up. They just beat the Pats. A cake walk now
>>>>>>>>> turned ito a dog fight.
>>
>>>>>>>>> 10. Texans. Yay !!!! They have no real reason to want to kill the
>>>>>>>>> Jets. I expect the Jets take this one easy.
>>
>>>>>>>>> 11. Bengals. They want revenge.
>>
>>>>>>>>> 12. Pats. BB and Brady at home. Oh no !
>>
>>>>>>>>> 13. Fish. Fish will be jacked up of course. Long history of trash
>>>>>>>>> talk... "Sweep" and so on... And... Now... Chadwick is back.
>>
>>>>>>>>> 14. Squeelers. Jets have to face the Squeelers AND the league
>>>>>>>>> officials. I expect the Jets to out play them, but still lose due to
>>>>>>>>> "phantom" calls against them and "no calls" against the Squeelers.
>>
>>>>>>>>> 15. Chicago. Wow... Another game that does not have any added
>>>>>>>>> gusto.
>>
>>>>>>>>> 16. Buff. Another rest but still a div rival.
>>
>>>>>>>>> So... You see... The Jets have a brutal time of it. Not just 16
>>>>>>>>> games here. Only The Bears and the Texans dont have any extra added
>>>>>>>>> reason to want to KO the "fuckin' Jets".
>>
>>>>>>>> The way I see it, they line up 11 and so do we. Team that makes more
>>>>>>>> plays wins, all the rest of this garbage is non sense. Just because we
>>>>>>>> trash talk or have a rivalry for whatever reason does not enable the
>>>>>>>> RB to break more tackles or the WR's to catch more passes.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>>>>>> football is the most emotional of all the sports... no matter what
>>>>>>> they say about a game just being another game. that is why a ravens
>>>>>>> vs steelers or oakland vs KC or vikes vs gb are so often such wild
>>>>>>> hard hitting games...- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>>>>> Based on what Michael? Do you think for a second the Yankees don't
>>>>>> want to beat the shit out of the Red Sox or the Mets don't want to
>>>>>> stomp the life out of Philly. Doesn't every team in the NBA want to
>>>>>> shit on Miami? Some of the most bitter rivalries I can remember are
>>>>>> actually basketball between the Knicks and Miami Heat of the 80's and
>>>>>> 90's and too a lesser extent Indiana. Those teams really hated each
>>>>>> other to the point of bench clearing brawls and constant fights and
>>>>>> this was basketball which is thought to be a non contact sport. I
>>>>>> don't think the Knicks hating the Heat or the Sox hating the Yankees
>>>>>> ever won a game for anyone just like the fact that the Jets have hated
>>>>>> the Pats for about the last 5 years ever won them any more games.
>>>>>> BTW, it's the Broncos that the Raiders hate, not KC. That's just a
>>>>>> division game to them.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>>>> huh ??? the raiders may hate the broncos too there is no love between
>>>>> them and kc. i dont agree with what you say above... football is not
>>>>> played in a vacuum. especially not football... there are lots of
>>>>> examples of a lesser team "wanting it more" and then going out and
>>>>> pulling off an upset. you cant play football unless you have the
>>>>> right mind set. you also need emotional leaders on your team.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>>> Right, wanting it more is what wins games. The team that want's it
>>>> more makes the extra effort to make the play. I never said effort
>>>> didn't matter, what I am saying is this revenge thing you are thinking
>>>> that is going to give the Bengals an edge is BS. Also, emotion is not
>>>> a good thing in any situation. More times than not the guy that can
>>>> control his emotions is the guy that performs better.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>> huh ??? emotion is everything as far as the human condition goes. in
>>> all matters. having emotion does not mean you are out of control. do
>>> players get "psyched" before games or do they put on some of
>>> Schubert's chamber music and sit on the couch to calm down a bit ???
>>
>> They do both, genius.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> no need to get pissy... just because your team sucks
>
> they listen to chamber music on the sidelines just before the game
> starts ??? i see them do everything BUT relax and mellow out. i can
> understand that they dont want to peak and burn up energy hours before
> the game... but not minutes before it.
>
You didn't say anything about being on the sidelines, where there aren't
any couches. Do you beep when you back up like that?
== 9 of 12 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 11 2010 5:02 pm
From: Michael
On Nov 11, 5:23 pm, Deadmeat <no...@home.com> wrote:
> On 11/11/2010 4:28 PM, Michael wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 11, 4:01 pm, Deadmeat<no...@home.com> wrote:
> >> On 11/11/2010 3:27 PM, Michael wrote:
>
> >>> On Nov 11, 2:15 pm, Glenn Greenstein<lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Nov 11, 1:16 pm, Michael<mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>> On Nov 11, 1:06 pm, Glenn Greenstein<lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> On Nov 11, 12:17 pm, Michael<mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> On Nov 11, 12:10 pm, Glenn Greenstein<lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>> On Nov 11, 9:53 am, Michael<mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>> If you consider the "side stories", the Jet schedule is probably one
> >>>>>>>>> of the hardest that any team has to face.
>
> >>>>>>>>> 1. Ravens: Rex's old team. Unquestionably, the Ravens wanted to show
> >>>>>>>>> Rex and the Jets that they "had it" even without Rex.
>
> >>>>>>>>> 2. Patriots: No explanation needed.
>
> >>>>>>>>> 3. Fish: All sorts of trash talk to add to the standard div rivalry.
> >>>>>>>>> No question that the Fish were jacked up to the full
>
> >>>>>>>>> 4. Buff: Not playing at a high level, but still a div rival.
>
> >>>>>>>>> 5. Vikes. Fava Bean back in town. The Favre factor added in to
> >>>>>>>>> things. Not just another game. Lots of energy and emotion.
>
> >>>>>>>>> 6. Denver. Always tuff at home, and they badly needed a win. They
> >>>>>>>>> came loaded to bare and wanted this game.
>
> >>>>>>>>> 7. Packers. Also badly needed a win and were focused on getting back
> >>>>>>>>> on track.
>
> >>>>>>>>> 8. Lions. They knew they had a chance to make a statement by beatign
> >>>>>>>>> the Jets. Lots of trash talk about how many points they would score.
> >>>>>>>>> Detroit clearly WANTED this game and were primed to take a step up.
> >>>>>>>>> Not just another game. Not at all.
>
> >>>>>>>>> 9. Browns. My goodness... This one looked easy at the beginning of
> >>>>>>>>> the year and now it is a tuff one. Mangini WANTS the game and the
> >>>>>>>>> Browns are jacked up. They just beat the Pats. A cake walk now
> >>>>>>>>> turned ito a dog fight.
>
> >>>>>>>>> 10. Texans. Yay !!!! They have no real reason to want to kill the
> >>>>>>>>> Jets. I expect the Jets take this one easy.
>
> >>>>>>>>> 11. Bengals. They want revenge.
>
> >>>>>>>>> 12. Pats. BB and Brady at home. Oh no !
>
> >>>>>>>>> 13. Fish. Fish will be jacked up of course. Long history of trash
> >>>>>>>>> talk... "Sweep" and so on... And... Now... Chadwick is back.
>
> >>>>>>>>> 14. Squeelers. Jets have to face the Squeelers AND the league
> >>>>>>>>> officials. I expect the Jets to out play them, but still lose due to
> >>>>>>>>> "phantom" calls against them and "no calls" against the Squeelers.
>
> >>>>>>>>> 15. Chicago. Wow... Another game that does not have any added
> >>>>>>>>> gusto.
>
> >>>>>>>>> 16. Buff. Another rest but still a div rival.
>
> >>>>>>>>> So... You see... The Jets have a brutal time of it. Not just 16
> >>>>>>>>> games here. Only The Bears and the Texans dont have any extra added
> >>>>>>>>> reason to want to KO the "fuckin' Jets".
>
> >>>>>>>> The way I see it, they line up 11 and so do we. Team that makes more
> >>>>>>>> plays wins, all the rest of this garbage is non sense. Just because we
> >>>>>>>> trash talk or have a rivalry for whatever reason does not enable the
> >>>>>>>> RB to break more tackles or the WR's to catch more passes.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>
> >>>>>>> football is the most emotional of all the sports... no matter what
> >>>>>>> they say about a game just being another game. that is why a ravens
> >>>>>>> vs steelers or oakland vs KC or vikes vs gb are so often such wild
> >>>>>>> hard hitting games...- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>
> >>>>>> Based on what Michael? Do you think for a second the Yankees don't
> >>>>>> want to beat the shit out of the Red Sox or the Mets don't want to
> >>>>>> stomp the life out of Philly. Doesn't every team in the NBA want to
> >>>>>> shit on Miami? Some of the most bitter rivalries I can remember are
> >>>>>> actually basketball between the Knicks and Miami Heat of the 80's and
> >>>>>> 90's and too a lesser extent Indiana. Those teams really hated each
> >>>>>> other to the point of bench clearing brawls and constant fights and
> >>>>>> this was basketball which is thought to be a non contact sport. I
> >>>>>> don't think the Knicks hating the Heat or the Sox hating the Yankees
> >>>>>> ever won a game for anyone just like the fact that the Jets have hated
> >>>>>> the Pats for about the last 5 years ever won them any more games.
> >>>>>> BTW, it's the Broncos that the Raiders hate, not KC. That's just a
> >>>>>> division game to them.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>
> >>>>> huh ??? the raiders may hate the broncos too there is no love between
> >>>>> them and kc. i dont agree with what you say above... football is not
> >>>>> played in a vacuum. especially not football... there are lots of
> >>>>> examples of a lesser team "wanting it more" and then going out and
> >>>>> pulling off an upset. you cant play football unless you have the
> >>>>> right mind set. you also need emotional leaders on your team.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>>>> - Show quoted text -
>
> >>>> Right, wanting it more is what wins games. The team that want's it
> >>>> more makes the extra effort to make the play. I never said effort
> >>>> didn't matter, what I am saying is this revenge thing you are thinking
> >>>> that is going to give the Bengals an edge is BS. Also, emotion is not
> >>>> a good thing in any situation. More times than not the guy that can
> >>>> control his emotions is the guy that performs better.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>>> - Show quoted text -
>
> >>> huh ??? emotion is everything as far as the human condition goes. in
> >>> all matters. having emotion does not mean you are out of control. do
> >>> players get "psyched" before games or do they put on some of
> >>> Schubert's chamber music and sit on the couch to calm down a bit ???
>
> >> They do both, genius.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > no need to get pissy... just because your team sucks
>
> > they listen to chamber music on the sidelines just before the game
> > starts ??? i see them do everything BUT relax and mellow out. i can
> > understand that they dont want to peak and burn up energy hours before
> > the game... but not minutes before it.
>
> You didn't say anything about being on the sidelines, where there aren't
> any couches. Do you beep when you back up like that?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
you are too quick on your feet for me
== 10 of 12 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 11 2010 5:41 pm
From: Copp
In article <7b404efa-aef3-4d5d-b1cf-c9e99398ad2c@f16g2000prj.googlegroups.com>
Michael <mjd1966@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> If you consider the "side stories", the Jet schedule is probably one
> of the hardest that any team has to face.
>
> 1. Ravens: Rex's old team. Unquestionably, the Ravens wanted to show
There isn't any team there the Jets can't beat. The difficulty
is playing at a really high level when you have a string of
the best teams to play. So what if the Jets drop a couple
(Houston, could be a trap game if the Jets beat Cleveland
easily, or an easy win if they don't beat Cleveland) they'll
still be 12-4.
== 11 of 12 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 11 2010 5:48 pm
From: buRford
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 09:10:38 -0800 (PST), Glenn Greenstein <lexa695@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Nov 11, 9:53�am, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> If you consider the "side stories", the Jet schedule is probably one
>> of the hardest that any team has to face.
>>
>> 1. Ravens: Rex's old team. Unquestionably, the Ravens wanted to show
>> Rex and the Jets that they "had it" even without Rex.
>>
>> 2. Patriots: No explanation needed.
>>
>> 3. Fish: All sorts of trash talk to add to the standard div rivalry.
>> No question that the Fish were jacked up to the full
>>
>> 4. Buff: Not playing at a high level, but still a div rival.
>>
>> 5. Vikes. �Fava Bean back in town. �The Favre factor added in to
>> things. �Not just another game. �Lots of energy and emotion.
>>
>> 6. Denver. �Always tuff at home, and they badly needed a win. �They
>> came loaded to bare and wanted this game.
>>
>> 7. Packers. �Also badly needed a win and were focused on getting back
>> on track.
>>
>> 8. Lions. �They knew they had a chance to make a statement by beatign
>> the Jets. �Lots of trash talk about how many points they would score.
>> Detroit clearly WANTED this game and were primed to take a step up.
>> Not just another game. �Not at all.
>>
>> 9. Browns. �My goodness... This one looked easy at the beginning of
>> the year and now it is a tuff one. �Mangini WANTS the game and the
>> Browns are jacked up. �They just beat the Pats. �A cake walk now
>> turned ito a dog fight.
>>
>> 10. �Texans. �Yay !!!! �They have no real reason to want to kill the
>> Jets. �I expect the Jets take this one easy.
>>
>> 11. Bengals. �They want revenge.
>>
>> 12. Pats. �BB and Brady at home. �Oh no !
>>
>> 13. Fish. �Fish will be jacked up of course. �Long history of trash
>> talk... "Sweep" and so on... And... Now... Chadwick is back.
>>
>> 14. Squeelers. �Jets have to face the Squeelers AND the league
>> officials. �I expect the Jets to out play them, but still lose due to
>> "phantom" calls against them and "no calls" against the Squeelers.
>>
>> 15. Chicago. �Wow... Another game that does not have any added
>> gusto.
>>
>> 16. Buff. �Another rest but still a div rival.
>>
>> So... You see... �The Jets have a brutal time of it. �Not just 16
>> games here. �Only The Bears and the Texans dont have any extra added
>> reason to want to KO the "fuckin' Jets".
>
>The way I see it, they line up 11 and so do we. Team that makes more
>plays wins, all the rest of this garbage is non sense. Just because we
>trash talk or have a rivalry for whatever reason does not enable the
>RB to break more tackles or the WR's to catch more passes.
Glenn, I luv ya, but watching the game, really isn't the same as playing it.
Any slight bit of extra motivation, or emotion, can make the difference between you being
the *hitter,* rather than the *hittee.*
It's like the *playing shape* argument... if you haven't played, you'll never really know
how real that concept is.
== 12 of 12 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 11 2010 5:49 pm
From: buRford
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:23:52 -0500, Deadmeat <noone@home.com> wrote:
>On 11/11/2010 4:28 PM, Michael wrote:
>> On Nov 11, 4:01 pm, Deadmeat<no...@home.com> wrote:
>>> On 11/11/2010 3:27 PM, Michael wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Nov 11, 2:15 pm, Glenn Greenstein<lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Nov 11, 1:16 pm, Michael<mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 11, 1:06 pm, Glenn Greenstein<lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 11, 12:17 pm, Michael<mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 11, 12:10 pm, Glenn Greenstein<lexa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 11, 9:53 am, Michael<mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you consider the "side stories", the Jet schedule is probably one
>>>>>>>>>> of the hardest that any team has to face.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1. Ravens: Rex's old team. Unquestionably, the Ravens wanted to show
>>>>>>>>>> Rex and the Jets that they "had it" even without Rex.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2. Patriots: No explanation needed.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 3. Fish: All sorts of trash talk to add to the standard div rivalry.
>>>>>>>>>> No question that the Fish were jacked up to the full
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 4. Buff: Not playing at a high level, but still a div rival.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 5. Vikes. Fava Bean back in town. The Favre factor added in to
>>>>>>>>>> things. Not just another game. Lots of energy and emotion.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 6. Denver. Always tuff at home, and they badly needed a win. They
>>>>>>>>>> came loaded to bare and wanted this game.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 7. Packers. Also badly needed a win and were focused on getting back
>>>>>>>>>> on track.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 8. Lions. They knew they had a chance to make a statement by beatign
>>>>>>>>>> the Jets. Lots of trash talk about how many points they would score.
>>>>>>>>>> Detroit clearly WANTED this game and were primed to take a step up.
>>>>>>>>>> Not just another game. Not at all.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 9. Browns. My goodness... This one looked easy at the beginning of
>>>>>>>>>> the year and now it is a tuff one. Mangini WANTS the game and the
>>>>>>>>>> Browns are jacked up. They just beat the Pats. A cake walk now
>>>>>>>>>> turned ito a dog fight.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 10. Texans. Yay !!!! They have no real reason to want to kill the
>>>>>>>>>> Jets. I expect the Jets take this one easy.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 11. Bengals. They want revenge.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 12. Pats. BB and Brady at home. Oh no !
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 13. Fish. Fish will be jacked up of course. Long history of trash
>>>>>>>>>> talk... "Sweep" and so on... And... Now... Chadwick is back.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 14. Squeelers. Jets have to face the Squeelers AND the league
>>>>>>>>>> officials. I expect the Jets to out play them, but still lose due to
>>>>>>>>>> "phantom" calls against them and "no calls" against the Squeelers.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 15. Chicago. Wow... Another game that does not have any added
>>>>>>>>>> gusto.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 16. Buff. Another rest but still a div rival.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So... You see... The Jets have a brutal time of it. Not just 16
>>>>>>>>>> games here. Only The Bears and the Texans dont have any extra added
>>>>>>>>>> reason to want to KO the "fuckin' Jets".
>>>
>>>>>>>>> The way I see it, they line up 11 and so do we. Team that makes more
>>>>>>>>> plays wins, all the rest of this garbage is non sense. Just because we
>>>>>>>>> trash talk or have a rivalry for whatever reason does not enable the
>>>>>>>>> RB to break more tackles or the WR's to catch more passes.- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>
>>>>>>>> football is the most emotional of all the sports... no matter what
>>>>>>>> they say about a game just being another game. that is why a ravens
>>>>>>>> vs steelers or oakland vs KC or vikes vs gb are so often such wild
>>>>>>>> hard hitting games...- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>
>>>>>>> Based on what Michael? Do you think for a second the Yankees don't
>>>>>>> want to beat the shit out of the Red Sox or the Mets don't want to
>>>>>>> stomp the life out of Philly. Doesn't every team in the NBA want to
>>>>>>> shit on Miami? Some of the most bitter rivalries I can remember are
>>>>>>> actually basketball between the Knicks and Miami Heat of the 80's and
>>>>>>> 90's and too a lesser extent Indiana. Those teams really hated each
>>>>>>> other to the point of bench clearing brawls and constant fights and
>>>>>>> this was basketball which is thought to be a non contact sport. I
>>>>>>> don't think the Knicks hating the Heat or the Sox hating the Yankees
>>>>>>> ever won a game for anyone just like the fact that the Jets have hated
>>>>>>> the Pats for about the last 5 years ever won them any more games.
>>>>>>> BTW, it's the Broncos that the Raiders hate, not KC. That's just a
>>>>>>> division game to them.- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>
>>>>>> huh ??? the raiders may hate the broncos too there is no love between
>>>>>> them and kc. i dont agree with what you say above... football is not
>>>>>> played in a vacuum. especially not football... there are lots of
>>>>>> examples of a lesser team "wanting it more" and then going out and
>>>>>> pulling off an upset. you cant play football unless you have the
>>>>>> right mind set. you also need emotional leaders on your team.- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>
>>>>> Right, wanting it more is what wins games. The team that want's it
>>>>> more makes the extra effort to make the play. I never said effort
>>>>> didn't matter, what I am saying is this revenge thing you are thinking
>>>>> that is going to give the Bengals an edge is BS. Also, emotion is not
>>>>> a good thing in any situation. More times than not the guy that can
>>>>> control his emotions is the guy that performs better.- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>
>>>> huh ??? emotion is everything as far as the human condition goes. in
>>>> all matters. having emotion does not mean you are out of control. do
>>>> players get "psyched" before games or do they put on some of
>>>> Schubert's chamber music and sit on the couch to calm down a bit ???
>>>
>>> They do both, genius.- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> no need to get pissy... just because your team sucks
>>
>> they listen to chamber music on the sidelines just before the game
>> starts ??? i see them do everything BUT relax and mellow out. i can
>> understand that they dont want to peak and burn up energy hours before
>> the game... but not minutes before it.
>>
>
>
>You didn't say anything about being on the sidelines, where there aren't
>any couches. Do you beep when you back up like that?
Hmmm, what, no mention of 1982??
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TOPIC: Mangini
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/816b53a2f591d08b?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 11 2010 11:18 am
From: Michael
On Nov 11, 1:48 pm, JetsLife <JetsL...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Nov 10, 11:11 pm, MZ <m...@nospam.void> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 11/10/2010 11:03 PM, Michael wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 10, 10:30 pm, John C TX<johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> I hated that they hired him. I drank the coolaid year one and hoped
> > >> that he was a coach. There was no hope.
>
> > >>http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/14274691/in-a-sea-of-subplots-mang...
>
> > >> In the link above this guy is goofy.
>
> > >> Here is a clip.
>
> > >> "I'd be lying to you if I told you I don't have any emotions tied to
> > >> this game," Mangini said. "It was a big part of my personal and
> > >> professional life. It's not often that you prepare for an opponent
> > >> where you get to see how young guys you brought together are doing.
> > >> That's pretty unique.
>
> > >> OK what young guys?
>
> > >> On O there are 3& on defense 3 that were drafted while he was there.
> > >> How about Vilma that couldn't play in his 3-4 but can play in Gregg
> > >> Williams 3-4? I hope we beat him> He isn't that good..
>
> > > nothing to sneez at though.... mangold, revis, keller, harris... all
> > > can be considered to be the best at their respective positions in the
> > > entire league. i think mangini has the right idea building on
> > > character and appears to make good choices in the draft. when he was
> > > with the jets he was over his head as far as being an in game coach.
> > > i cant say how much he has learned between then and now... i dont
> > > expect the browns will win sunday.
>
> > How do we know that Mangini was responsible for those picks? Not
> > Tannenbaum and the scouts? Has it ever been revealed how much of a role
> > Mangini played in picking the groceries?
>
> As an aside: you often stated Mangini was incompetent as DC and HC. He
> looked pretty damn competent last Sunday v. you guys. Browns are
> playing good ball at the moment.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
i remember that bb had to bail mangini out when he was the dc with the
pata. at that time, mangini was incompetent. he was also incompetent
when he was with the jets with a lot of capitol decisions. after
jenkins broke down, mangini still stuck with the same defense. that
was incompetent. IMHO, it cost him his job because he could not adapt
or improvise. we all have our favorite dish to cook, but if you dont
have the ingrediants you gotta make something else. may be he has the
ability to learn and has done so.
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TOPIC: OT Investigations
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/0b9b7371a438a11a?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 11 2010 1:43 pm
From: "papa.carl44"
<A1247@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:vbfod6t7qt8c7faanfa4lrvvse3qs1m605@4ax.com...
> There is so much opposition to Obama Care that 75% of voters suppoprt
> Obama Care.
I love it when one of my neighbors tells me how terrible Obamacare is...and
then tell me how we need things like eliminating pre-existing conditions and
a way for people to buy affordable insurance. The Fox News Party did such a
good job of telling lies that most people who are against it can not come up
with a reason, and when pressed fall back on the pork or how it was pushed
through etc...and that would be true of almost all legislation in this
country.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 11 2010 5:38 pm
From: buRford
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 08:24:33 -0800, Johnny Morongo <j.mirehiel@harmonicconcordance.com>
wrote:
>buRford wrote:
>> On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 16:32:05 -0800, Johnny Morongo <j.mirehiel@harmonicconcordance.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> O'Neil's Faggy Prostate - Precedent Lame Duck. wrote:
>>>> On Nov 10, 4:02 pm, DW <DrWoodardO...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Darrell Issa: "I want seven hearings a week times 40 weeks,"
>>>>>
>>>>> Great idea. Lets start with a president who got us into an
>>>>> illegal war in Iraq, Illegally warterboarded people,
>>>>> froze up on 9/11, failed to heed warnings about 9/11,
>>>>> let thousands die in Katrina, failed to capture Bin Laden
>>>>> even though he promised to, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> We could have thousands of hearings just on the abuses under
>>>>> Bush.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, the republicans won eight days ago, so where are the jobs?
>>>>> We should impeach the republicans for failing to deliver on their
>>>>> promises to create jobs.
>>>> "Be patient" As Confucious Say. Notice some great things have happened
>>>> since the Republicans took control of the U.S. eight days ago:
>>> Like other Republican idiots, your understanding of what happened eight
>>> days ago is seriously flawed. You took control of the House of
>>> Representatives, numbnutz. A far cry from taking control of the country.
>>
>>
>> Pretty good take on things below...
>>
>> A Recipe for Fascism
>>
>> by Chris Hedges
>>
>> American politics, as the midterm elections demonstrated, have descended into the
>> irrational.
><snip>
>
>Saw this on TD a few days ago. Hedges is one of the best of the Libs
>still standing. Pretty much tells it like it is. That's why the idiots
>in here just now won't read him all the way through. They can't handle
>the truth.
Sometimes it's difficult for people to see themselves in the mirror, or be pegged, as
Hedges pegs them. And I suspect most, if not all of them, aren't making the $250k... so
they'll be paying for the *tax cuts* they're so much in favor of giving, to their
puppetmasters ;)
What I really like about the piece, is that he's tougher on the Libs, than any Con could
imagine to be, because it's all true. Whereas, what the Cons always say about Libs is
imaginary projections. He's actually more sympathetic to the Cons, and how they're so
willing to be conned.
Divide and conquer... have the electorate fight amongst themselves, while everything is
the Country is being taken away from them.
Too bad the Cons will never realize that the Libs were on their side... fighting for them
too ;)
The saddest thing, on this whole tax cut thing... if they'd just let all the cuts expire,
that in itself would put the Country on a firm ground. And we all remember how bad the
economy & the Middle-Class did, back in the 90s ;)
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 11 2010 5:41 pm
From: buRford
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 16:43:40 -0500, "papa.carl44" <papadotcarl@nospamverizon.net> wrote:
>
><A1247@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:vbfod6t7qt8c7faanfa4lrvvse3qs1m605@4ax.com...
>
>
>> There is so much opposition to Obama Care that 75% of voters suppoprt
>> Obama Care.
>
>I love it when one of my neighbors tells me how terrible Obamacare is...and
>then tell me how we need things like eliminating pre-existing conditions and
>a way for people to buy affordable insurance. The Fox News Party did such a
>good job of telling lies that most people who are against it can not come up
>with a reason, and when pressed fall back on the pork or how it was pushed
>through etc...and that would be true of almost all legislation in this
>country.
>
Even the allegedly non-partisan Budget Committee (the two leaders are both Cons), said
having a Public Option would save tons of money.
Too many followers... too little education in this Country.
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TOPIC: Pennington named Miami starter
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/74f51bad8cfe6450?hl=en
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 11 2010 2:07 pm
From: Deadmeat
On 11/10/2010 3:57 PM, Glenn Greenstein wrote:
> On Nov 10, 2:58 pm, Deadmeat<no...@home.com> wrote:
>> On 11/10/2010 1:49 PM, Tutor wrote:
>>
>>> Chad to play while the other Chad gets benched.
>>
>>> Dolphins fans would like to hang both Chads. Hanging Chads..
>>> courtesy Jeb Bush.
>>
>>> Dolphins and their fans suck. They deserve Chad and Chad.
>>
>> Right, Miami fans suck. How about the idiot jet fans?
>>
>> Win the off season (what does that mean anyway) and you're SB champs.
>> Lose one game and the QB sucks, the OC sucks, and lardass sucks.
>>
>> Win one, and it's SB champs again.
>>
>> Wash rinse repeat until the season ends.
>>
>> How many years has that been going on? At least since 1982.
>
> Actually that's not correct. Most fans here think the Jets suck win or
> lose.
Well, you know better than I Glenn.
== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 11 2010 2:21 pm
From: Deadmeat
On 11/11/2010 2:08 AM, Tutor wrote:
> On Nov 10, 2:58 pm, Deadmeat<no...@home.com> wrote:
>> On 11/10/2010 1:49 PM, Tutor wrote:
>>
>>> Chad to play while the other Chad gets benched.
>>
>>> Dolphins fans would like to hang both Chads. Hanging Chads..
>>> courtesy Jeb Bush.
>>
>>> Dolphins and their fans suck. They deserve Chad and Chad.
>>
>> Right, Miami fans suck. How about the idiot jet fans?
>>
>> Win the off season (what does that mean anyway) and you're SB champs.
>> Lose one game and the QB sucks, the OC sucks, and lardass sucks.
>>
>> Win one, and it's SB champs again.
>>
>> Wash rinse repeat until the season ends.
>>
>> How many years has that been going on? At least since 1982.
>
> Hmmm... now that you are here there is something I have always meant
> to ask: Why are there so many inbred Dolphin fans?
Really? Is that the best you can do? That sounds like something Mr. Dud
would come up with. I'll just pretend you never said it, so I won't
lose any (more) respect for you. I'll give you a do over.
== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 11 2010 3:48 pm
From: Grinch
On Nov 10, 1:49 pm, Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Chad to play while the other Chad gets benched.
>
> Dolphins fans would like to hang both Chads. Hanging Chads..
> courtesy Jeb Bush.
>
> Dolphins and their fans suck. They deserve Chad and Chad.
If Chad shows on Sunday that he can still throw a bowl overarm he'll
have earned his niche in the Sports Medicine Hall of Fame.
== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 11 2010 3:51 pm
From: Grinch
On Nov 11, 10:22 am, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Nov 10, 9:30 pm, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 10, 1:27 pm, Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 10, 2:06 pm, Harlan Lachman <har...@eeivt.com> wrote:
>
> > > > In article
> > > > <618a217f-840e-4770-a8dc-8b5875dab...@d8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > > Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > Chad to play while the other Chad gets benched.
>
> > > > > Dolphins fans would like to hang both Chads. Hanging Chads..
> > > > > courtesy Jeb Bush.
>
> > > > > Dolphins and their fans suck. They deserve Chad and Chad.
>
> > > > I think this is a great move. A week later it might have been too late.
>
> > > > If the Jets or Pats continue their sloppy, get lucky ways, the Fish,
> > > > unfortunately, may well be back in the mix.
>
> > > > I was much happier with Henne.
>
> > > > harlan
>
> > > Also, it's a great move, why exactly? There is no future for the
> > > Dolphins with Pennington. Even if he can pull their collective heads
> > > out of their asses and get them to the playoffs, which is unlikely,
> > > what does that do for them for the long haul? I think it's a very
> > > poor management decision by the the Dolphins. Unless they are
> > > officially closing the book on the Henne experiment. After all,
> > > Parcells clearly felt that Henne was NOT the future for the Dolphins.
>
> > Dave, they may not be closing the door on a QB.
>
> > Remember Staubach & Morton getting benched. Did that destroy
> > Staubach? Morton rallied & ultimately played in a Super Bowl.
>
> > They may be saving a young QB. btw Pennington is better than 60% of
> > the QB's in the league when healthy.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> i think chad p. might have the best completion percentage of any qb in
> the nfl right now. he may also have one of the top five completion
> percentages of all time.
He's got the #1 all-time completion percentage right now.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_cmp_perc_career.htm
== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 11 2010 4:07 pm
From: "papa.carl44"
"Grinch" <oldnasty@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:1eb60f4f-c32f-45ec-b53f-42f5de8c3ccc@35g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 11, 10:22 am, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Nov 10, 9:30 pm, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 10, 1:27 pm, Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 10, 2:06 pm, Harlan Lachman <har...@eeivt.com> wrote:
>
> > > > In article
> > > > <618a217f-840e-4770-a8dc-8b5875dab...@d8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > > Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > Chad to play while the other Chad gets benched.
>
> > > > > Dolphins fans would like to hang both Chads. Hanging Chads..
> > > > > courtesy Jeb Bush.
>
> > > > > Dolphins and their fans suck. They deserve Chad and Chad.
>
> > > > I think this is a great move. A week later it might have been too
> > > > late.
>
> > > > If the Jets or Pats continue their sloppy, get lucky ways, the Fish,
> > > > unfortunately, may well be back in the mix.
>
> > > > I was much happier with Henne.
>
> > > > harlan
>
> > > Also, it's a great move, why exactly? There is no future for the
> > > Dolphins with Pennington. Even if he can pull their collective heads
> > > out of their asses and get them to the playoffs, which is unlikely,
> > > what does that do for them for the long haul? I think it's a very
> > > poor management decision by the the Dolphins. Unless they are
> > > officially closing the book on the Henne experiment. After all,
> > > Parcells clearly felt that Henne was NOT the future for the Dolphins.
>
> > Dave, they may not be closing the door on a QB.
>
> > Remember Staubach & Morton getting benched. Did that destroy
> > Staubach? Morton rallied & ultimately played in a Super Bowl.
>
> > They may be saving a young QB. btw Pennington is better than 60% of
> > the QB's in the league when healthy.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> i think chad p. might have the best completion percentage of any qb in
> the nfl right now. he may also have one of the top five completion
> percentages of all time.
He's got the #1 all-time completion percentage right now.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_cmp_perc_career.htm
On top of that, I would bet that the majority of ANY of his interceptions
came from his sometimes lack of arm stregnth.....I used to say he was not
the guy who would take the Jets to a SB...I still believe that, but not
because I don't really like him. He was and is a victim of a body that did
not cooperate with what the NFL demands of a QB. I can only imagine how he
may be now if he was never injured. I also know that Henning has a
tremendous amount of respect for him and that means a lot.
== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 11 2010 4:19 pm
From: Grinch
On Nov 10, 9:30 pm, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 10, 1:27 pm, Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 10, 2:06 pm, Harlan Lachman <har...@eeivt.com> wrote:
>
> > > In article
> > > <618a217f-840e-4770-a8dc-8b5875dab...@d8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > Chad to play while the other Chad gets benched.
>
> > > > Dolphins fans would like to hang both Chads. Hanging Chads..
> > > > courtesy Jeb Bush.
>
> > > > Dolphins and their fans suck. They deserve Chad and Chad.
>
> > > I think this is a great move. A week later it might have been too late.
>
> > > If the Jets or Pats continue their sloppy, get lucky ways, the Fish,
> > > unfortunately, may well be back in the mix.
>
> > > I was much happier with Henne.
>
> > > harlan
>
> > Also, it's a great move, why exactly? There is no future for the
> > Dolphins with Pennington. Even if he can pull their collective heads
> > out of their asses and get them to the playoffs, which is unlikely,
> > what does that do for them for the long haul? I think it's a very
> > poor management decision by the the Dolphins. Unless they are
> > officially closing the book on the Henne experiment. After all,
> > Parcells clearly felt that Henne was NOT the future for the Dolphins.
>
> Dave, they may not be closing the door on a QB.
>
> Remember Staubach & Morton getting benched. Did that destroy
> Staubach? Morton rallied & ultimately played in a Super Bowl.
>
> They may be saving a young QB. btw Pennington is better than 60% of
> the QB's in the league when healthy.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
That's today. People forget how very good he was before he had any of
his injuries, and was playing on a team with some talent.
Chad's first season as a starter was one of the handful of the best of
any QB of the last 20 years.
His passing rating that year has been topped by Peyton only once and
Brady only once in their careers -- those are two great HoF QBs who've
played on hugely more talented teams with hugely better coaching for
22 seasons between them. And that was when he was a novice beginner.
If Chad had had a better HC than Herm, and better OC than Hacket, and
the front office had been able to maintain the talent level inherited
from Tuna instead of having it plunge to 4-12 quality, and hadn't had
the three shoulder surgeries....
If, if, if, if, if ....
== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 11 2010 4:27 pm
From: Deadmeat
On 11/11/2010 7:07 PM, papa.carl44 wrote:
> "Grinch"<oldnasty@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:1eb60f4f-c32f-45ec-b53f-42f5de8c3ccc@35g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 11, 10:22 am, Michael<mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> On Nov 10, 9:30 pm, John C TX<johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 10, 1:27 pm, Tutor<dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> On Nov 10, 2:06 pm, Harlan Lachman<har...@eeivt.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> In article
>>>>> <618a217f-840e-4770-a8dc-8b5875dab...@d8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
>>
>>>>> Tutor<dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Chad to play while the other Chad gets benched.
>>
>>>>>> Dolphins fans would like to hang both Chads. Hanging Chads..
>>>>>> courtesy Jeb Bush.
>>
>>>>>> Dolphins and their fans suck. They deserve Chad and Chad.
>>
>>>>> I think this is a great move. A week later it might have been too
>>>>> late.
>>
>>>>> If the Jets or Pats continue their sloppy, get lucky ways, the Fish,
>>>>> unfortunately, may well be back in the mix.
>>
>>>>> I was much happier with Henne.
>>
>>>>> harlan
>>
>>>> Also, it's a great move, why exactly? There is no future for the
>>>> Dolphins with Pennington. Even if he can pull their collective heads
>>>> out of their asses and get them to the playoffs, which is unlikely,
>>>> what does that do for them for the long haul? I think it's a very
>>>> poor management decision by the the Dolphins. Unless they are
>>>> officially closing the book on the Henne experiment. After all,
>>>> Parcells clearly felt that Henne was NOT the future for the Dolphins.
>>
>>> Dave, they may not be closing the door on a QB.
>>
>>> Remember Staubach& Morton getting benched. Did that destroy
>>> Staubach? Morton rallied& ultimately played in a Super Bowl.
>>
>>> They may be saving a young QB. btw Pennington is better than 60% of
>>> the QB's in the league when healthy.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> i think chad p. might have the best completion percentage of any qb in
>> the nfl right now. he may also have one of the top five completion
>> percentages of all time.
>
> He's got the #1 all-time completion percentage right now.
>
> http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_cmp_perc_career.htm
>
> On top of that, I would bet that the majority of ANY of his interceptions
> came from his sometimes lack of arm stregnth.....I used to say he was not
> the guy who would take the Jets to a SB...I still believe that, but not
> because I don't really like him. He was and is a victim of a body that did
> not cooperate with what the NFL demands of a QB. I can only imagine how he
> may be now if he was never injured. I also know that Henning has a
> tremendous amount of respect for him and that means a lot.
>
>
During the preseason this year, Henning said that with Henne, he had to
watch everything the kid did. With Pennington, he said he could take a
nap. Unfortunately for Dolphin fans it appears Henning has been taking
a nap all year.
== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 11 2010 5:15 pm
From: Michael
On Nov 11, 5:21 pm, Deadmeat <no...@home.com> wrote:
> On 11/11/2010 2:08 AM, Tutor wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 10, 2:58 pm, Deadmeat<no...@home.com> wrote:
> >> On 11/10/2010 1:49 PM, Tutor wrote:
>
> >>> Chad to play while the other Chad gets benched.
>
> >>> Dolphins fans would like to hang both Chads. Hanging Chads..
> >>> courtesy Jeb Bush.
>
> >>> Dolphins and their fans suck. They deserve Chad and Chad.
>
> >> Right, Miami fans suck. How about the idiot jet fans?
>
> >> Win the off season (what does that mean anyway) and you're SB champs.
> >> Lose one game and the QB sucks, the OC sucks, and lardass sucks.
>
> >> Win one, and it's SB champs again.
>
> >> Wash rinse repeat until the season ends.
>
> >> How many years has that been going on? At least since 1982.
>
> > Hmmm... now that you are here there is something I have always meant
> > to ask: Why are there so many inbred Dolphin fans?
>
> Really? Is that the best you can do? That sounds like something Mr. Dud
> would come up with. I'll just pretend you never said it, so I won't
> lose any (more) respect for you. I'll give you a do over.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
fuck off
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TOPIC: Week 9 Ratings
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 11 2010 4:49 pm
From: Julio
As usual, a 100 point difference means the higher rated
teams wins 62.5% of the time; 200 pts: 75%; 300 pts: 85%;
400 pts: 95%.
Rankings for week 9 2010-11 Season
Average rating is 1598.661
Rank Team Rating
1 Jets 1996
2 Atlanta 1890
3 Baltimore 1822
4 Pittsburgh 1801
5 Indianapolis 1792
6 New England 1785
7 Tampa Bay 1706
8 Philadelphia 1700
9 Giants 1695
10 Tennessee 1688
11 Cleveland 1678
12 New Orleans 1674
13 Green Bay 1671
14 Miami 1639
15 Oakland 1636
16 Chicago 1635
17 Kansas City 1581
18 San Diego 1567
19 Seattle 1566
20 Washington 1537
21 Minnesota 1530
22 Jacksonville 1523
23 Denver 1517
24 Houston 1516
25 St. Louis 1513
26 Cincinatti 1475
27 Arizona 1470
28 Detroit 1411
29 San Francisco 1383
30 Dallas 1337
31 Carolina 1293
32 Buffalo 1133
J.
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