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Today's topics:
* Will Laff do this when Novitsky strikes out against LANCE? - 7 messages, 6
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/c1e8249c0351df8e?hl=en
* Motorpacing - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/3295f120eb3017de?hl=en
* Contador's closing in on Greg - 5 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/84b40874f0a9a8c0?hl=en
* Flyover construction - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/60dbd46b4e29d3ec?hl=en
* AUSA and Team to Paris - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/e8a645fe4f853e48?hl=en
* Quantitative Easing Explained - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/1ee5f8e131817d39?hl=en
* Hyperinflation Bitches - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/daa0897cc5a35557?hl=en
* Blood Boosting at 1984 Olympics - the rest of the story - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/838ae03ed1a5613f?hl=en
* Transvestite? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/cdb9782d80a36f5f?hl=en
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TOPIC: Will Laff do this when Novitsky strikes out against LANCE?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/c1e8249c0351df8e?hl=en
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 18 2010 7:44 am
From: "Beloved Fred No. 1"
drmofe wrote:
> Is there no end to these rhetorical questions?
> Seriously, dude, other than me getting laid with two hookers and a
> Japanese schoolgirl at New Year's, what's going to happen in January?
I bet the Japanese schoolgirls brother swore she was a virgin.
== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 18 2010 9:31 am
From: Fredmaster of Brainerd
On Nov 18, 5:05 am, BLafferty <b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On 11/18/2010 4:16 AM, Frederick the Great wrote:
>
>
>
> > In article
> > <a3fb2202-d874-4b8b-a25d-ab03d7012...@32g2000yqz.googlegroups.com>,
> > DirtRoadie<DirtRoa...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >> On Nov 17, 5:20 pm, BLafferty<b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >>> On 11/17/2010 6:37 PM, Carl Sundquist wrote:
>
> >>>> On Nov 17, 12:14 pm, BLafferty<b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On 11/17/2010 11:58 AM, Fred Flintstein wrote:
>
> >>>>>>http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/108684844.html
>
> >>>>>> Fred Flintstein
>
> >>>>> ROTFL!! My, how desperate you're becoming. Come January, be sure
> >>>>> you're wearing Depends(tm) every day. You'll need them. ;-)
>
> >>>> What is going to happen in January?
>
> >>> Been on vacation in Fiji for a few months?
>
> >> You think you're being informative by posting links that anyone could
> >> locate and then dodge when someone asks you a straight question?
> >> What's up with that?
>
> > Rhetorical question, eh? There's a word for it:
> > somebody who beats around the bush and never
> > makes a categorical statement. Sweetheart?
>
> Dear FuckTards and Alzheimer Cycling Association Members,
>
> The likelihood of a January indictment was discussed here in relation to
> the following article in the NY Times.
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/30/sports/cycling/30armstrong.html?_r=...
>
> Carry on,
> BL
Oh ho, the January deadline is set by ... the statute of
limitations expiration date!
But I thought you had explained that every time
Dopestrong denies doping, that's part of continuing
the conspiracy and extends the statute of limitations?
Fredmaster Ben
== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 18 2010 9:39 am
From: DirtRoadie
On Nov 18, 5:05 am, BLafferty <b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> Dear [FELLOW] FuckTards and Alzheimer Cycling Association Members,
There, the grand poobah of fucktards forgot to include himself.
> The likelihood of a January indictment was discussed here in relation to
> the following article in the NY Times.
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/30/sports/cycling/30armstrong.html?_r=...
Wouldn't it have been much easier to have said "Come January, when
grand jury indictments, if any, should occur ..." in the first place?
That way we might know you weren't just offering a veiled threat that
none of your detractors will be invited your birthday party in
January.
DR
== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 18 2010 9:51 am
From: Fred Flintstein
On 11/18/2010 11:39 AM, DirtRoadie wrote:
> That way we might know you weren't just offering a veiled threat that
> none of your detractors will be invited your birthday party in
> January.
If he hires Japanese schoolgirls like drmofe he might have something.
Fred Flintstein
== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 18 2010 10:25 am
From: BLafferty
On 11/18/2010 12:31 PM, Fredmaster of Brainerd wrote:
> On Nov 18, 5:05 am, BLafferty<b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> On 11/18/2010 4:16 AM, Frederick the Great wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> In article
>>> <a3fb2202-d874-4b8b-a25d-ab03d7012...@32g2000yqz.googlegroups.com>,
>>> DirtRoadie<DirtRoa...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> On Nov 17, 5:20 pm, BLafferty<b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 11/17/2010 6:37 PM, Carl Sundquist wrote:
>>
>>>>>> On Nov 17, 12:14 pm, BLafferty<b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/17/2010 11:58 AM, Fred Flintstein wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/108684844.html
>>
>>>>>>>> Fred Flintstein
>>
>>>>>>> ROTFL!! My, how desperate you're becoming. Come January, be sure
>>>>>>> you're wearing Depends(tm) every day. You'll need them. ;-)
>>
>>>>>> What is going to happen in January?
>>
>>>>> Been on vacation in Fiji for a few months?
>>
>>>> You think you're being informative by posting links that anyone could
>>>> locate and then dodge when someone asks you a straight question?
>>>> What's up with that?
>>
>>> Rhetorical question, eh? There's a word for it:
>>> somebody who beats around the bush and never
>>> makes a categorical statement. Sweetheart?
>>
>> Dear FuckTards and Alzheimer Cycling Association Members,
>>
>> The likelihood of a January indictment was discussed here in relation to
>> the following article in the NY Times.
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/30/sports/cycling/30armstrong.html?_r=...
>>
>> Carry on,
>> BL
>
> Oh ho, the January deadline is set by ... the statute of
> limitations expiration date!
>
> But I thought you had explained that every time
> Dopestrong denies doping, that's part of continuing
> the conspiracy and extends the statute of limitations?
>
> Fredmaster Ben
This may be difficult for you to follow, so re-read this several times
before you type anything. The media have stated that they have been told
that the SL runs in January. However, the SL for conspiracy does not
toll if the conspirators are still taking steps to conceal and make
successful the conspiracy. Let's wait to see what the indictment
alleges. Maybe they found some nice, recent cover up conversations
between Lance, Popo, Johan and some others.
Lastly, consider this. Teams of federal investigators and Assistant US
Attorneys do not get a trip to Europe unless there's clearly fire
beneath the smoke. Lance is burnt toast, FuckWit.
== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 18 2010 12:44 pm
From: "Beloved Fred No. 1"
DirtRoadie wrote:
>> That way we might know you weren't just offering a veiled threat that
>> none of your detractors will be invited your birthday party in
>> January.
Fred Flintstein wrote:
> If he hires Japanese schoolgirls like drmofe he might have something.
First the Japanese schoolgirl would have to figure out how to look like
an oriental version of LANCE's mom.
== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 18 2010 3:39 pm
From: Anton Berlin
> Lastly, consider this. Teams of federal investigators and Assistant US
> Attorneys do not get a trip to Europe unless there's clearly fire
> beneath the smoke. Lance is burnt toast, FuckWit.
Great point. In this economy it would be nearly impossible to
convince a bureaucrat that doing this (yet alone so open and public)
is worth it.
Even more so - they may be doing this openly just to increase the
chatter and it's certain that many of those that gave depositions are
having monitored communications.
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TOPIC: Motorpacing
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/3295f120eb3017de?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 18 2010 9:27 am
From: Fredmaster of Brainerd
On Nov 17, 11:53 pm, Amit Ghosh <amit.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 17, 11:15 pm, Carl Sundquist <carl.sundqu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > But I am thinking of it where the motor is supplementing the rider
> > pedaling (or vice versa). If the rider puts out 200 watts and the e-
> > rig can put out 300, 500 watts of forward motion should make for a
> > substantial motorpace vehicle.
>
> dumbass,
>
> somehow a 500W e-bike is not as fast as a bike rider that makes 500W.
Commercial e-bikes almost all have a very upright riding
position.
Time for the Gruber Assist. The only problem with a
Gruber for Carl is that he can't take full advantage of
it without local group rides, since half the point of a
Gruber would be to stealthily destroy one's fellow
Masters on weekend rides.
Fredmaster Ben
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 18 2010 12:08 pm
From: Carl Sundquist
On Nov 18, 9:41 am, "Beloved Fred No. 1" <n...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> William Fred wrote:
> >> I thought Arkansas was a cruel mistress, and that's not the same thing as a
> >> bitch.
> drmofe wrote:
> > Arkansas is hot.
>
> But she's dry.
Nah, usually she's sweaty.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 18 2010 12:09 pm
From: Ryan Cousineau
On Nov 17, 8:15 pm, Carl Sundquist <carl.sundqu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 17, 6:21 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 16, 10:55 am, Carl Sundquist <carl.sundqu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I know this isn't the time of year for it, but has anyone tried using
> > > using an e-bike wheel for motorpacing? Where I live there is a
> > > distinct lack of riders so consequently a lack speed training. It's
> > > even harder to find someone to drive a motor.
>
> > > With an e-bike wheel, it seems like you could alternate the wheel
> > > between bikes so that the group can self-motorpace and change
> > > "drivers" periodically, like every 30-45-60 minutes. The driver
> > > wouldn't be passive, just using the motor as a supplement. It's also
> > > less likely to get hassled by law enforcement than pacing off a
> > > motorcycle or scooter.
>
> > >http://www.electric-bikes.com/bikes/kits.html
>
> > > Thoughts?
>
> > It's a lot of money to get into motorpacing, but...
>
> > I've driven an electric scooter as a motorpace vehicle. It really
> > wasn't an e-bike: we removed the pedals.
>
> > In most cases, I think you're underestimating range and speed
> > considerations. Legalities aside, to get a e-bike to be fast enough
> > and have enough range to use this way, you'll need to spend. Because
> > you're starting with a bicycle (not an electric scooter), you're
> > limiting your battery weight and size, so you may need to go Lithium.
>
> But I am thinking of it where the motor is supplementing the rider
> pedaling (or vice versa). If the rider puts out 200 watts and the e-
> rig can put out 300, 500 watts of forward motion should make for a
> substantial motorpace vehicle.
Possibly that will be ok. I'd be very sure you get a good idea of how
long you can ride assisted, though, since that will be the limit on
this idea.
I mean, as a cost-no-object theory, I am totally ok with the idea of
using two assisted bikes to do back-and-forth motorpace training.
Smarter people than I will comment on whether using a single assisted
bike is functionally the same as motorpacing, since you get the same
combo of higher speeds and reduced wattage. You could "self-pace"
using an HRM or a crank powermeter, so that you knew you were giving
an honest effort for the speed in question.
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TOPIC: Contador's closing in on Greg
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/84b40874f0a9a8c0?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 18 2010 11:16 am
From: DirtRoadie
On Nov 17, 1:35 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com>
wrote:
> I retract my initial statement that Contador would likely get three months
> and lose his title. Alberto's going for broke, and is going to lose
> everything. The title and two years. The positive side is that gives him *3*
> virtual wins without having to compete in two of them. Plus another virtual
> win when Astana wasn't allowed in the 'Tour. He's closing in fast on Greg.
Is there a category for "unearned" wins? Pereiro and perhaps Schleck?
Maybe even Jan will be able to join the club.
DR
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 18 2010 12:50 pm
From: Brad Anders
On Nov 18, 2:58 am, "Beloved Fred No. 1" <n...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> Anton Berlin wrote:
> > It's rumored there are chickens in Benelux with higher VO2s then
> > Lemond.
>
> Pigeons actually.
If you're looking for birds with a really high VO2max, you've got to
go with the hummingbird, > 500 ml/kg/min.
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 18 2010 12:59 pm
From: "A. Dumas"
Brad Anders wrote:
> On Nov 18, 2:58 am, "Beloved Fred No. 1" wrote:
>> Anton Berlin wrote:
>>> It's rumored there are chickens in Benelux with higher VO2s then
>>> Lemond.
>> Pigeons actually.
>
> If you're looking for birds with a really high VO2max, you've got to
> go with the hummingbird, > 500 ml/kg/min.
Or Emma Pooley.
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 18 2010 1:02 pm
From: "Beloved Fred No. 1"
Anton Berlin wrote:
>>> It's rumored there are chickens in Benelux with higher VO2s then
>>> Lemond.
Beloved Fred No. 1 wrote:
>> Pigeons actually.
Brad Anders wrote:
> If you're looking for birds with a really high VO2max, you've got to
> go with the hummingbird,> 500 ml/kg/min.
But they're clean just like Lemond. The Belgian pigeons however are on
some good shit. In fact Contador should have claimed he ate some Belgian
pigeon instead of Spanish beef.
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 18 2010 7:34 pm
From: Carl Sundquist
On Nov 18, 3:02 pm, "Beloved Fred No. 1" <n...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> Anton Berlin wrote:
> >>> It's rumored there are chickens in Benelux with higher VO2s then
> >>> Lemond.
>
> Beloved Fred No. 1 wrote:
>
> >> Pigeons actually.
> Brad Anders wrote:
> > If you're looking for birds with a really high VO2max, you've got to
> > go with the hummingbird,> 500 ml/kg/min.
>
> But they're clean just like Lemond. The Belgian pigeons however are on
> some good shit. In fact Contador should have claimed he ate some Belgian
> pigeon instead of Spanish beef.
Van der Poel already tried that one. http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/15.01/dopingexcuses.html
What about Peruvian candies? Nah, too ludicrous.
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TOPIC: Flyover construction
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/60dbd46b4e29d3ec?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 18 2010 12:28 pm
From: Fred Flintstein
Is it possible to construct a reliable flyover using scaffolding
and plywood or some other ramp system? Something that you could
move around in a truck and assemble at a race site?
Is anyone doing this?
Fred Flintstein
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 18 2010 1:06 pm
From: "A. Dumas"
Fred Flintstein wrote:
> Is it possible to construct a reliable flyover using scaffolding
> and plywood or some other ramp system? Something that you could
> move around in a truck and assemble at a race site?
>
> Is anyone doing this?
EVERYONE in Belgium is doing that. So, yes.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 18 2010 2:23 pm
From: Fred Flintstein
On 11/18/2010 3:06 PM, A. Dumas wrote:
> Fred Flintstein wrote:
>> Is it possible to construct a reliable flyover using scaffolding
>> and plywood or some other ramp system? Something that you could
>> move around in a truck and assemble at a race site?
>>
>> Is anyone doing this?
>
> EVERYONE in Belgium is doing that. So, yes.
In doing the google and it appears that everyone in the US is
making their flyovers out of lumber as a fixed feature of the
course. We must be dumbasses in addition to having an irony
grokking deficiency.
Never mind. The next step is to talk to a scaffolding supplier.
Fred Flintstein
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TOPIC: AUSA and Team to Paris
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/e8a645fe4f853e48?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 18 2010 12:54 pm
From: Brad Anders
On Nov 17, 3:02 pm, BLafferty <b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> I would not be surprise if the Electronic Crimes Task Force
> of the US Secret Service is also involved.
Yeah, maybe they'll get to Lance after they finish convicting Fraud
for his computer crimes.
Brad Anders
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 18 2010 4:28 pm
From: Michael Press
In article
<d523469d-3c46-497e-acee-d8992024de0b@o34g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
Anton Berlin <truth_88888@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Your intellectual acuity is beginning to marginally impress us - well
> done teabag voter.
What are you talking about?
--
Michael Press
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TOPIC: Quantitative Easing Explained
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/1ee5f8e131817d39?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 18 2010 3:49 pm
From: Anton Berlin
I take back everything bad I ever said about you.
Great post.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 18 2010 4:31 pm
From: Andre
On Nov 18, 6:49 pm, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I take back everything bad I ever said about you.
>
> Great post.
Thanks
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TOPIC: Hyperinflation Bitches
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/daa0897cc5a35557?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 18 2010 3:54 pm
From: Anton Berlin
Follow up to Andre's post
Read the hyperinflation series - and the rest - especially the
comments
http://gonzalolira.blogspot.com/2010/08/how-hyperinflation-will-happen.html
http://gonzalolira.blogspot.com/2010/08/hyperinflation-part-ii-what-it-will.html
http://gonzalolira.blogspot.com/2010/11/two-more-nails-in-dollars-coffinthe.html
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TOPIC: Blood Boosting at 1984 Olympics - the rest of the story
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/838ae03ed1a5613f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 18 2010 7:05 pm
From: Fred Fredburger
On 11/17/2010 8:23 PM, Anton Berlin wrote:
> Laff - that true? You think Lemond was clean?
>
I was hoping he'd respond.
He still claims that Lemond was clean. He's done this as recently as
last July. The July claim was noteworthy because YOU argued against him
then:
http://tinyurl.com/27ooskk
This version is classic Lafferty, good for laughs:
http://tinyurl.com/29vgjoo
The full, unequivocal, non-candyassed argument:
http://tinyurl.com/24eolq2
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TOPIC: Transvestite?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/cdb9782d80a36f5f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 18 2010 7:37 pm
From: Carl Sundquist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N6tOa2tcYE
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