Wednesday, December 8, 2010

[socialactionfoundationforequity:10689 US falls to average in education ranking

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US falls to average in education ranking
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[socialactionfoundationforequity:10689 Wikileaks unethical, wrong, anti-peace: Tharoor

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Wikileaks unethical, wrong, anti-peace: Tharoor
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Wikileaks-unethical-wrong-anti-peace-Tharoor/articleshow/7066619.cms

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:10689 China increases pressure on India to miss Nobel Peace Prize ceremony

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China increases pressure on India to miss Nobel Peace Prize ceremony
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/China-increases-pressure-on-India-to-miss-Nobel-Peace-Prize-ceremony/articleshow/7060823.cms

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:10689 Varanasi blast: Dr Shahnawaz, Bhatkal brothers emerge as main suspects after mail traced to Vashi

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Varanasi blast: Dr Shahnawaz, Bhatkal brothers emerge as main suspects
after mail traced to Vashi
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[socialactionfoundationforequity:10689 Unable to marry his lady love, man burns 3 sisters-in-law

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Unable to marry his lady love, man burns 3 sisters-in-law
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Unable-to-marry-his-lady-love-man-burns-3-sisters-in-law/articleshow/7059066.cms

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:10689 Riyaz and Iqbal |Bhatkal brothers of IM behind Varanasi Bomb blast

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Riyaz and Iqbal |Bhatkal brothers of IM behind Varanasi Bomb blast
http://www.planet6oclock.com/planet6oclock/content/riyaz-and-iqbal-bhatkal-brothers-im-behind-varanasi-bomb-blast

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:10689 Demand for JPC has led to longest shutdown in Parliament: Govt

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Demand for JPC has led to longest shutdown in Parliament: Govt
http://www.zeenews.com/news673268.html

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:10689 ‘Bhatkal brothers orchestrated Varanasi blast from Pak’

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'Bhatkal brothers orchestrated Varanasi blast from Pak'
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[socialactionfoundationforequity:10689 Cairo international film festival 34

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Cairo international film festival 34
http://www.cairofilmfest.org/

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:10689 India, China should have common perception about LAC: Kaur

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India, China should have common perception about LAC: Kaur
http://www.zeenews.com/news673253.html

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:10689 UNU-WIDER : WIDER Annual Lecture 14

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UNU-WIDER : WIDER Annual Lecture 14
http://www.wider.unu.edu/events/annual-lecture/en_GB/09-12-2010/

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:10689 $100 Bill: The Fed Has a $110 Billion Problem with New Benjamins

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$100 Bill: The Fed Has a $110 Billion Problem with New Benjamins
http://www.cnbc.com/id/40521684

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:10689 Cigarette, bidi cos win a year's reprieve on warnings

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Cigarette, bidi cos win a year's reprieve on warnings
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/cons-products/tobacco/Cigarette-bidi-cos-win-a-years-reprieve-on-warnings/articleshow/7063245.cms


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[socialactionfoundationforequity:10689 Skeptical Environmentalist: Danish economist Bjorn Lomborg sayswe're attacking global warming in the wrong way

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Skeptical Environmentalist: Danish economist Bjorn Lomborg sayswe're
attacking global warming in the wrong way
http://www.canada.com/Skeptical+Environmentalist+Danish+economist+Bjorn+Lomborg+says+attacking+global+warming+wrong/3866730/story.html

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:10689 Official seeks root causes of HIV-AIDS

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Official seeks root causes of HIV-AIDS
http://www.leaderpost.com/health/Official+seeks+root+causes+AIDS/3914797/story.html

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:10689 International Day of Persons with Disabilities

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International Day of Persons with Disabilities
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[socialactionfoundationforequity:10689 International Disable Day On 3rd Dec - Breaking Pakistan News, National, World, Business, Cricket, Education, Health and Pakistan Politics Online

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International Disable Day On 3rd Dec - Breaking Pakistan News,
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http://www.onepakistan.com/news/national/76119-international-disable-day-on-3rd-dec.html

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:10689 The International Solar Energy Society

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The International Solar Energy Society
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[socialactionfoundationforequity:10672 2010 Lecture Series: Asian Decent Work Agenda under Global Job Crisis - Programs - Tokyo Development Learning Center

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2010 Lecture Series: Asian Decent Work Agenda under Global Job Crisis
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http://www.jointokyo.org/en/programs/catalogue/2010_lecture_ILO/

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Re: Medarticles need articles

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2010/11/28 Fernanda (Fê) Reetz de Paiva <fereetz@gmail.com>
Please, does anyone have these articles?
 
1) A Nationwide Population-Based Study of Migraine in Brazil Cephalalgia June 2009 29: 642-649, doi: 10.1111/j.1468-2982.2008.01782.x
 
2) An Epidemiological Study of Headache in Florianopolis, Brazil Cephalalgia February 2006 26: 122-127, doi: 10.1111/j.1468-2982.2005.00998.x
 
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[socialactionfoundationforequity:10672 Erasmus Observatory on Health Law - Health Care Rationing, 9-10 December 2010

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Erasmus Observatory on Health Law - Health Care Rationing, 9-10
December 2010
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[socialactionfoundationforequity:10672 UNESCO World Heritage Centre - Calendar

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UNESCO World Heritage Centre - Calendar
http://whc.unesco.org/en/events/date=2010-12-9&mode=day

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:10672 Terror attack in Varanasi: In pictures

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Terror attack in Varanasi: In pictures
http://news.in.msn.com/gallery.aspx?cp-documentid=4670826

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:10672 'Freshers have zero practical exposure' - Institutes

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'Freshers have zero practical exposure' - Institutes
http://education.in.msn.com/careers/article.aspx?cp-documentid=4672805&page=0

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:10672 Fire in crowded Chile prison kills 81 inmates

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Fire in crowded Chile prison kills 81 inmates
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[socialactionfoundationforequity:10672 Science film festival in Chennai next month

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Science film festival in Chennai next month
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[socialactionfoundationforequity:10672 Lieutenant General censured for sexual harassment

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Lieutenant General censured for sexual harassment
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[socialactionfoundationforequity:10672 Assange backers in cyber retaliation over arrest | Reuters

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Assange backers in cyber retaliation over arrest | Reuters
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[socialactionfoundationforequity:10672 AFP: Palestinians back regional firefighting force

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AFP: Palestinians back regional firefighting force
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[socialactionfoundationforequity:10672 Events Calendar | Amnesty International

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Events Calendar | Amnesty International
http://www.amnesty.org/en/activism-center/calendar?page=2

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:10672 Inside Justice - International Law Conferences 2009 / 2010 - Symposiums, Legal Meetings, Events

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Inside Justice - International Law Conferences 2009 / 2010 -
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 7 2010 7:30 pm
From: Copp


In article <1eb7c49f-b759-451b-ad7c-e851aa121f07@r19g2000prm.googlegroups.com>
Tutor <dcat4434@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> 2. This team will NEVER win a championship under the current
> management structure. And, more importantly, it will NEVER win a
> championship under Rex Ryan. blah blah blah


You guys are too much. I like seeing the Jets get stomped as
much as anyone, but the Pats went into Cleveland, made some
mistakes and it was 10-0, then it just steamrolled and they
lost big. Belichick should have resigned!

This is just one game. The loss itself is big because of the
potential playoff implications, but you really need to see
how your team does against Pitt and Chicago before you blow
up the team. Do you think Chicago or GB can beat the Pats?

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 8 2010 7:41 am
From: Harlan Lachman


In article
<1eb7c49f-b759-451b-ad7c-e851aa121f07@r19g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
Tutor <dcat4434@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From a former contributor to this group, one whose opinion I have
> always highly valued. I can't disagree with anything he writes. This
> about says it all:
>
> "I thought I would be angrier than this.

Sorry about the late reply David. I was too angry about this post to
respond in a timely fashion. I had work to do.
>
> But I�m not. I fully expected something like this, though not this
> bad. I was telling friends the Jets would lose 31-14 or 34-17, in that
> range. I knew the Patriots would put up 30 and I knew, especially
> after hearing all week about how �statistically bad� the Patriots D
> was, that the Jets would struggle to put up 20. And no, I�m not
> claiming to be some sort of football Nostradamus, but I can tell you a
> couple of things:
>
> 1. The Jets, if they make the playoffs - that�s right, �if� they
> manage to hold off San Diego and get in at 11-5 or 10-6, because they
> are not beating Pittsburgh or Chicago, and could easily lose to Miami
> or Buffalo at home � will either meekly shut out the lights at Kansas
> City or San Diego or Jacksonville or Indy, or will tease us with a bad-
> lookiong win against one of these mediocre teams, before being
> annihilated in Pittsburgh or New England.
>
> 2. This team will NEVER win a championship under the current
> management structure. And, more importantly, it will NEVER win a
> championship under Rex Ryan.

That is a pretty easy statement to make. In the last twenty one years,
16 head coaches out of 123 (13%) in the league won a super bowl. [BTW,
in the last 21 years, only 14 teams were winners). Going through the
list of head coaches revealed some pretty decent choices, some who came
pretty close, in some cases a yard or two, to getting their name on the
list of winners -- but who did not.

IOW, this long time sufferer has an 87% of getting it right just by
throwing darts. Very daring call. I will be more impressed if he
identifies the next 16 winning HC.

>
> Look at it from the top. Everything Woody Johnson does in setting the
> tone for this franchise is bottom-line based. It�s about making a big
> splash, getting in the papers, in the national conversation, and
> ultimately selling tickets. Nothing wrong with that � it is a
> business, after all. But going after Brett Favre, chasing the Namath
> echo in Mark Sanchez, appearing on �Hard Knocks� etc., seem to be
> geared more toward hype than on-field performance. It�s OK to sell
> tickets and make money, but if the performance seems secondary to the
> selling, then it�s trouble.

This is where the analysis completely fails. While I hated the Brett
Favre move and thought it counter productive, many folks had rated
Sanchez a top Qb. Most folks with would think Holmes worth a 5th round
pick and that LT is at least worth one TJ at a huge discount. The draft
picks have been good, at least compare to the SB winning Patriots in the
same time frame. Some trades like Cromartie really need more time to
evaluate but I think we have a much better team than we did and it has
been upgraded by both draft picks, UDFA, and trades.

Most folks would admit the Jets talent is better than most teams in the
league, if not good enough to win it all. Tannenbaum replaced Bradway
in 2006 after Bradway and Herm had gutted the team. The talent level is
substantially better than it was.
>
> Following that strategy, Tannenbaum�s moves as a GM make sense. It is
> absolutely a short-range plan, with the Jets filling holes with near-
> done veterans and putting all their draft eggs in a small basket.
> People rag on hmhertz for wanting to collect draft picks, but when
> your strategy is to pick just four guys a year, if you miss on half of
> them, you are cutting way down your chances for success, and
> absolutely mortgaging the future. New England went through a dry spell
> for a bit but never wavered from the strategy, and now it is paying
> off with a ton of good young players (like half of whom I spent
> watching as Florida Gators) plus a ton of draft picks in the future.
> Because of the Jets short-term strategy, if they don�t catch the
> Patriots now � and they didn�t � they will never catch them.

If Brady gets a career ending injury, after next year's draft, unless
the Pats trade up to get Luck, so much for this fear. Does the author
believe the Jets or someone else won't beat a Brady less Pats.

Brady has been the difference for this team much as Big Ben and Polamalu
have been for the Steelers, Peyton and Sanders have been for the Colts.
If I cared about the NFC at all, I might be able to cite more examples
have just a couple of key players have dominated their division when
healthy making life miserable for fans of other teams in their divisions.

I bet Bellichek would trade Brady's continued good health for all those
picks.
>
> The Woodhead decision is a perfect example of this. If Woodhead was a
> guy who would be riding the pine for the Jets, but who is an intergral
> part of the best offense in football, what does that say about either
> (1) the GM and coaching staff's evaluative skills or (2) the overall
> organizational strategy? Nothing good about either. Denial of
> Woodhead�s abilities just sounds silly now � is there anyone who would
> like to trade Woodhead�s future production for Tomlinson�s coming 3.2
> ypc now?

First of all, the fan suffers memory lapse. We lost Woodhead for
Clowney. Now that was stupid. One could even argue we lost Woodhead for
McKnight, that the Jets refused to give up on McNothing and decided to
risk losing Woodhead rather than McNothing. Was Bellichek brilliant or
desperate and lucky like he was thanks to Mo Lewis. Faulk got hurt or
Woodhead would not be playing. Also, someone would need an accurate
watch to know if Bellichek knew Woodhead was available when he let
Maroney go or if Rex knew Maroney had been traded when he gambled on
trying to hide Woodhead for a week. Bad Joss.

>
> And it�s most definitely the coaching as well. I posted a couple of
> weeks ago that I feel like the Jets will be the Oilers to New
> England�s Steelers � good but never good enough. I like Rex Ryan, but
> he is not going to get the Jets over the hump. Period. The ownership/
> management goals work against him, but there is the on the field stuff
> and last night exemplified it:

There are a lot of teams that will never get over the hump if there are
only 16 winning coaches and 14 winning teams in more than two decades.
>
> The team, as always after a layoff, was woefully unprepared. Bad time
> outs, delay of games, etc but the thing that is really stunning is
> this is a guy who is supposed to be a defensive genius, and yet the
> Patriots did nothing innovative or unexpected on offense and the Jets
> had no answers whatsoever. It�s clearly a paper tiger, and when you
> aren�t playing against bad QBs like Carson Palmer, from whom you can
> depend on a bunch of bad decisions, the defense looks like the
> undermanned, large-talking, ill-prepared unit that it is.
>
> And we don�t need to speak about Ryan�s long trend of ineptitude with
> the challenge flag � he makes Herm look like Patek Philippe with his
> clock issues. Add to that flat out stupid decisions � ask a shaky
> kicker to try a 58-yarder in a windy, and the kind of loud-mouthed
> bluster that gets referees� flag pulling fingers itchy, and you have a
> coach who can get you close but never all the way. I guess the one
> positive from last night was that the Jets weren�t called for their
> usual stupid drive-extending late hit or unnecessary roughness
> penalties. Then again, the Patriots didn�t need any help extending
> their drives.
>
> Anyway, let�s spending the week criticizing Folk, or Sanchez, or
> Schottenheimer, or the OL allowing sacks from a three-man rush or
> Curtis Martin, or whatever you like, but the disease is running
> through the entire organization. Our near-term future is littered with
> hopes of near-wildcard berths and early playoff flameouts on hostile
> turf, and the grim specter of watching New England or Pittsburgh or
> Baltimore � better teams, with better coaching and management
> strategies, advance."

The last two paragraphs seem like fairer criticism to me. The question
is whether Rex learns from his stupidity (and the signs are not great
about that) or gets lucky and loses Shott and gets a powerful OC to
replace him who gets the most out of the available talent.

But, while for some of us it has been 40+ years of suffering and time is
running out on our every being able to celebrate with the rest of you,
the Jets roster is better and Rex is better than any recent coach except
Parcells.

harlan


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 8 2010 7:49 am
From: Harlan Lachman


In article
<140e53c3-0f7b-48d5-a315-5163e8e0bfdf@f21g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
Grinch <oldnasty@mindspring.com> wrote:

>
> The honeymoon is ending for Rex, eh?
>
> The first serious "It's Rex's fault!" sighting.
>
> Well, that's what a mere 20-11 record with just one trip to the
> conference championship game in 1.75 seasons gets you!

Grinch, and how many Jets' head coaches have winning records? Out of how
many coaches?

[Hint it is only 2 of 17 and not many would guess the two correctly.
And, as of today, guess which HC has the best regular season winning
percentage?]

harlan


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 8 2010 7:51 am
From: "papa.carl44"

"Harlan Lachman" <harlan@eeivt.com> wrote in message
news:harlan-DDF296.10410908122010@news60.forteinc.com...
> In article
> <1eb7c49f-b759-451b-ad7c-e851aa121f07@r19g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
> Tutor <dcat4434@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> From a former contributor to this group, one whose opinion I have
>> always highly valued. I can't disagree with anything he writes. This
>> about says it all:
>>
>> "I thought I would be angrier than this.
>
> Sorry about the late reply David. I was too angry about this post to
> respond in a timely fashion. I had work to do.
>>
>> But I�m not. I fully expected something like this, though not this
>> bad. I was telling friends the Jets would lose 31-14 or 34-17, in that
>> range. I knew the Patriots would put up 30 and I knew, especially
>> after hearing all week about how �statistically bad� the Patriots D
>> was, that the Jets would struggle to put up 20. And no, I�m not
>> claiming to be some sort of football Nostradamus, but I can tell you a
>> couple of things:
>>
>> 1. The Jets, if they make the playoffs - that�s right, �if� they
>> manage to hold off San Diego and get in at 11-5 or 10-6, because they
>> are not beating Pittsburgh or Chicago, and could easily lose to Miami
>> or Buffalo at home � will either meekly shut out the lights at Kansas
>> City or San Diego or Jacksonville or Indy, or will tease us with a bad-
>> lookiong win against one of these mediocre teams, before being
>> annihilated in Pittsburgh or New England.
>>
>> 2. This team will NEVER win a championship under the current
>> management structure. And, more importantly, it will NEVER win a
>> championship under Rex Ryan.
>
> That is a pretty easy statement to make. In the last twenty one years,
> 16 head coaches out of 123 (13%) in the league won a super bowl. [BTW,
> in the last 21 years, only 14 teams were winners). Going through the
> list of head coaches revealed some pretty decent choices, some who came
> pretty close, in some cases a yard or two, to getting their name on the
> list of winners -- but who did not.
>
> IOW, this long time sufferer has an 87% of getting it right just by
> throwing darts. Very daring call. I will be more impressed if he
> identifies the next 16 winning HC.
>
>>
>> Look at it from the top. Everything Woody Johnson does in setting the
>> tone for this franchise is bottom-line based. It�s about making a big
>> splash, getting in the papers, in the national conversation, and
>> ultimately selling tickets. Nothing wrong with that � it is a
>> business, after all. But going after Brett Favre, chasing the Namath
>> echo in Mark Sanchez, appearing on �Hard Knocks� etc., seem to be
>> geared more toward hype than on-field performance. It�s OK to sell
>> tickets and make money, but if the performance seems secondary to the
>> selling, then it�s trouble.
>
> This is where the analysis completely fails. While I hated the Brett
> Favre move and thought it counter productive, many folks had rated
> Sanchez a top Qb. Most folks with would think Holmes worth a 5th round
> pick and that LT is at least worth one TJ at a huge discount. The draft
> picks have been good, at least compare to the SB winning Patriots in the
> same time frame. Some trades like Cromartie really need more time to
> evaluate but I think we have a much better team than we did and it has
> been upgraded by both draft picks, UDFA, and trades.
>
> Most folks would admit the Jets talent is better than most teams in the
> league, if not good enough to win it all. Tannenbaum replaced Bradway
> in 2006 after Bradway and Herm had gutted the team. The talent level is
> substantially better than it was.
>>
>> Following that strategy, Tannenbaum�s moves as a GM make sense. It is
>> absolutely a short-range plan, with the Jets filling holes with near-
>> done veterans and putting all their draft eggs in a small basket.
>> People rag on hmhertz for wanting to collect draft picks, but when
>> your strategy is to pick just four guys a year, if you miss on half of
>> them, you are cutting way down your chances for success, and
>> absolutely mortgaging the future. New England went through a dry spell
>> for a bit but never wavered from the strategy, and now it is paying
>> off with a ton of good young players (like half of whom I spent
>> watching as Florida Gators) plus a ton of draft picks in the future.
>> Because of the Jets short-term strategy, if they don�t catch the
>> Patriots now � and they didn�t � they will never catch them.
>
> If Brady gets a career ending injury, after next year's draft, unless
> the Pats trade up to get Luck, so much for this fear. Does the author
> believe the Jets or someone else won't beat a Brady less Pats.
>
> Brady has been the difference for this team much as Big Ben and Polamalu
> have been for the Steelers, Peyton and Sanders have been for the Colts.
> If I cared about the NFC at all, I might be able to cite more examples
> have just a couple of key players have dominated their division when
> healthy making life miserable for fans of other teams in their divisions.
>
> I bet Bellichek would trade Brady's continued good health for all those
> picks.
>>
>> The Woodhead decision is a perfect example of this. If Woodhead was a
>> guy who would be riding the pine for the Jets, but who is an intergral
>> part of the best offense in football, what does that say about either
>> (1) the GM and coaching staff's evaluative skills or (2) the overall
>> organizational strategy? Nothing good about either. Denial of
>> Woodhead�s abilities just sounds silly now � is there anyone who would
>> like to trade Woodhead�s future production for Tomlinson�s coming 3.2
>> ypc now?
>
> First of all, the fan suffers memory lapse. We lost Woodhead for
> Clowney. Now that was stupid. One could even argue we lost Woodhead for
> McKnight, that the Jets refused to give up on McNothing and decided to
> risk losing Woodhead rather than McNothing. Was Bellichek brilliant or
> desperate and lucky like he was thanks to Mo Lewis. Faulk got hurt or
> Woodhead would not be playing. Also, someone would need an accurate
> watch to know if Bellichek knew Woodhead was available when he let
> Maroney go or if Rex knew Maroney had been traded when he gambled on
> trying to hide Woodhead for a week. Bad Joss.
>
>>
>> And it�s most definitely the coaching as well. I posted a couple of
>> weeks ago that I feel like the Jets will be the Oilers to New
>> England�s Steelers � good but never good enough. I like Rex Ryan, but
>> he is not going to get the Jets over the hump. Period. The ownership/
>> management goals work against him, but there is the on the field stuff
>> and last night exemplified it:
>
> There are a lot of teams that will never get over the hump if there are
> only 16 winning coaches and 14 winning teams in more than two decades.
>>
>> The team, as always after a layoff, was woefully unprepared. Bad time
>> outs, delay of games, etc but the thing that is really stunning is
>> this is a guy who is supposed to be a defensive genius, and yet the
>> Patriots did nothing innovative or unexpected on offense and the Jets
>> had no answers whatsoever. It�s clearly a paper tiger, and when you
>> aren�t playing against bad QBs like Carson Palmer, from whom you can
>> depend on a bunch of bad decisions, the defense looks like the
>> undermanned, large-talking, ill-prepared unit that it is.
>>
>> And we don�t need to speak about Ryan�s long trend of ineptitude with
>> the challenge flag � he makes Herm look like Patek Philippe with his
>> clock issues. Add to that flat out stupid decisions � ask a shaky
>> kicker to try a 58-yarder in a windy, and the kind of loud-mouthed
>> bluster that gets referees� flag pulling fingers itchy, and you have a
>> coach who can get you close but never all the way. I guess the one
>> positive from last night was that the Jets weren�t called for their
>> usual stupid drive-extending late hit or unnecessary roughness
>> penalties. Then again, the Patriots didn�t need any help extending
>> their drives.
>>
>> Anyway, let�s spending the week criticizing Folk, or Sanchez, or
>> Schottenheimer, or the OL allowing sacks from a three-man rush or
>> Curtis Martin, or whatever you like, but the disease is running
>> through the entire organization. Our near-term future is littered with
>> hopes of near-wildcard berths and early playoff flameouts on hostile
>> turf, and the grim specter of watching New England or Pittsburgh or
>> Baltimore � better teams, with better coaching and management
>> strategies, advance."
>
> The last two paragraphs seem like fairer criticism to me. The question
> is whether Rex learns from his stupidity (and the signs are not great
> about that) or gets lucky and loses Shott and gets a powerful OC to
> replace him who gets the most out of the available talent.
>
> But, while for some of us it has been 40+ years of suffering and time is
> running out on our every being able to celebrate with the rest of you,
> the Jets roster is better and Rex is better than any recent coach except
> Parcells.
>
> harlan

Yes...Rex is better than any recent coach...but the point is that much like
the Redskins will never climb out of that hole because of their owner and
how he handles things, I am not so sure the Jets will either. The entire
point of the thing is about the stupid decisions that appear to come from
somewhere other than the head coach, and then even seemingly promoting all
the bravado of the head coach with the TV show etc. Focus is very
important, and maybe with all this peripheral stuff that focus is being
hurt. Let's see what Woody does in the off season, what new scheme he will
hatch.


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 8 2010 7:56 am
From: Harlan Lachman


In article <lpCdnTPAvc4eXWPRnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@giganews.com>,
"papa.carl44" <papadotcarl@nospamverizon.net> wrote:

> Grinch, You really don't understand it do you? He says he is going to the
> SB...he says it is a "win now" situation.

Papa,

While I will blame Rex for the performance of his Defense and even
Offense, and retaining that Folk Folk, what difference does it make what
he says?

He still has the highest winning percentage of any of the 17 Jets Head
Coaches. Theoretically, we can still make the playoffs or even win the
AFCE at this time (it will take a few games to make this point moot).

Blaming him for his mouth is silly and irrelevant.

Will Rex be our HC for awhile or ever win it all? Who knows. With Brady
in the Division and Manning in the Conference and the likelihood that
eventually the Chargers may replace Norv with a decent coach, and some
decent teams in the NFC, we would have to be lucky (not something that
happens to this particular team in the past 40+ years).

Let's focus on the decisions and not the mouth. For all we know it might
be eliminating pressure on the team even more than it puts a target on
their back.

Harlan

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TOPIC: The Pats Just Scored Again
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/15c3cff7a2a5a19a?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 8 2010 3:54 am
From: Ian


On Dec 8, 4:32 am, "papa.carl44" <papadotc...@nospamverizon.net>
wrote:
> "Keith Keller" <kkeller-use...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote in message
>
> news:s5b3t7xko1.ln2@goaway.wombat.san-francisco.ca.us...
>
> > On 2010-12-08, papa.carl44 <papadotc...@nospamverizon.net> wrote:
>
> >> Have you ever thought that Rex and Quentin have some things in common?
> >> :-)
>
> > You mean presiding over gruesome works that make you want to avert your
> > eyes and vomit?  ;-)
>
> > --keith
>
> You are a mind reader !

The Tarantino way of reading minds is to first spread them over the
wall with a .45

--
Ian


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 8 2010 4:04 am
From: MuahMan


On Dec 8, 6:54 am, Ian <spuorgelg...@ianwhitephoto.co.uk> wrote:
> On Dec 8, 4:32 am, "papa.carl44" <papadotc...@nospamverizon.net>
> wrote:
>
> > "Keith Keller" <kkeller-use...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote in message
>
> >news:s5b3t7xko1.ln2@goaway.wombat.san-francisco.ca.us...
>
> > > On 2010-12-08, papa.carl44 <papadotc...@nospamverizon.net> wrote:
>
> > >> Have you ever thought that Rex and Quentin have some things in common?
> > >> :-)
>
> > > You mean presiding over gruesome works that make you want to avert your
> > > eyes and vomit?  ;-)
>
> > > --keith
>
> > You are a mind reader !
>
> The Tarantino way of reading minds is to first spread them over the
> wall with a .45
>
> --
> Ian

Tarantino may be more over-rated than the Jets.


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 8 2010 6:44 am
From: John C TX


X-No-Archive: Yes

> The Tarantino way of reading minds is to first spread them over the
> wall with a .45
>

Ian, I hesitated to look at these posts. Thanks for making me laugh
again.


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TOPIC: Not Yet Ready For Prime Time Coaching
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/78f996ae3bc92c61?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 8 2010 6:31 am
From: John C TX


X-No-Archive: Yes
> I never saw Klecko play, but in post game, he's awesome and he called
> out the OC scheme.  Paraphrasing, the offensive scheme surprises no
> one.  He's right, it appears that defenses are in the huddle, inspite
> of all the pre-snap shifts; defenses hardly move or pursue.  I can't
> believe they hardly ran, and I think Gruden questioned a third down,
> where Schott brought in Brad Smith.

That Brad Smith choice was just stupid.


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TOPIC: How about Josh McDaniels for OC of the NYJ?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/dbe3877a8a672499?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 8 2010 6:37 am
From: John C TX

X-No-Archive: Yes

> Josh McDaniels would destroy the Jets just as surely as he destroyed the
> Broncos.  There is something really wrong with that guy.

He did an excellent job with a superior QB & then with a very
inexperienced one in NE. Orton looked good early on but it was when
Nolan had their defense on a role last season. I think as te halfway
point in 2009 their defense was top ten.

I was wondering about McDaniel's and his ability to get along with his
players & staff (Cutler, Marshall &Nolan). A young guy who may have
been over aggressive to prove he was in control and he went too far?
If all he had to do was a run an offense maybe that isn't an issue but
then again he maybe an asshole.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 8 2010 6:42 am
From: John C TX


--
X-No-Archive: Yes
> > His play calling and use of personnel sure worked for Pat Bowlen.
>
> > Frankly, I would prefer giving Callahan a chance at play calling or Matt
> > R before the year is done and it is too late to see if either can do
> > better.
>
> > harlan
>
> Yo love the idea of Callahan as OC.

H & CD, Callahan may be a perfect fit. The Raiders had some success
but had a very seasoned QB in his prime, good RB's & hall of fame
receivers. He did take over for Gruden.

My worries:

1. I watched him at Nebraska & they were horrible.
2. The OL is a problem this year and that is Callahan's job. I would
like to know if statistically we jump more than other teams? H, I know
you think it is partially due to the shifts and being willing to
concede I don't know everything how do you explain the movement by our
OL when there is nothing special about what they are doing? Maybe the
vast improvement in oyur OL should be credited to Callahan and it is
worth the penalties.

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TOPIC: On the bright side
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/704643d8ad24cbd5?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 8 2010 7:58 am
From: Harlan Lachman


In article <vo2dne9uh5Kpd2PRnZ2dnUVZ_sqdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"papa.carl44" <papadotcarl@nospamverizon.net> wrote:

> "Harlan Lachman" <harlan@eeivt.com> wrote in message
> news:harlan-18CA8C.21003007122010@news60.forteinc.com...
> > In article <idmjec$83m$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > "JKConey" <jkconey@verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> >> "Harlan Lachman" <harlan@eeivt.com> wrote in message
> >> news:harlan-050611.11240907122010@news60.forteinc.com...
> >> > In article <idkchr$ls0$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
> >> > "JKConey" <jkconey@verizon.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On the bright side....
> >> >>
> >> >> 1. Every team has at least 1 really bad loss already this year.
> >> >> 2. We're still 9-3
> >> >> 3. A loss is just one loss no matter what
> >> >> 4. Maybe they'll fire Shot now?
> >> >> 5. We win next week, and could be right back there
> >> >>
> >> >> OK I'm done
> >> >
> >> > Is this the definition of Pollyanna?
> >> >
> >> > Harlan
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm so old, it conjured up visions of Hayley Mills!
> >
> > AT my age, someone who looks like her seems scrumptious :-(
> >
> > h
>
> I saw a picture of her now, she was in a play my nephew did stage work
> on.......not to bad for her age I guess.

Sorry Papa, I was referring to then. Those looks then inspired boredom.
Today...

h


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 8 2010 8:09 am
From: "JKConey"

"Harlan Lachman" <harlan@eeivt.com> wrote in message
news:harlan-18CA8C.21003007122010@news60.forteinc.com...
> In article <idmjec$83m$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
> "JKConey" <jkconey@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> "Harlan Lachman" <harlan@eeivt.com> wrote in message
>> news:harlan-050611.11240907122010@news60.forteinc.com...
>> > In article <idkchr$ls0$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> > "JKConey" <jkconey@verizon.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On the bright side....
>> >>
>> >> 1. Every team has at least 1 really bad loss already this year.
>> >> 2. We're still 9-3
>> >> 3. A loss is just one loss no matter what
>> >> 4. Maybe they'll fire Shot now?
>> >> 5. We win next week, and could be right back there
>> >>
>> >> OK I'm done
>> >
>> > Is this the definition of Pollyanna?
>> >
>> > Harlan
>>
>>
>> I'm so old, it conjured up visions of Hayley Mills!
>
> AT my age, someone who looks like her seems scrumptious :-(
>
> h


She was a real cutie, and that accent was a killer!

--

www.myconeyislandmemories.com


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TOPIC: Live by the blitz, die by the blitz
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/7bbf055cf2525945?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 8 2010 8:02 am
From: Harlan Lachman


In article <oc6uf6h6prrf2f911gk78bevudjd43olj7@4ax.com>,
buRford <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 18:21:31 -0800 (PST), JetsLife <JetsLife@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >On Dec 6, 9:31�pm, Grinch <oldna...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >> Jets pressure holds Brady to 4 of 9 in 1st Q.
> >>
> >> Pats have 4th and 3rd at end of 1st Q.
> >>
> >> Rex brings Big Blitz ... 25-yd TD pass ... 0-17.
> >
> >Yes yes yes. It seems the Jets blitzed too much. It's almost like they
> >took an irrational tack with no Leonhard: let's blitz a lot and expose
> >our weakened secondary unit to nightmarish man coverage. I'd of much
> >preferred a 1-man rush all game and flooding the field from 5 - 20 yds
> >with defenders. Let the Pats run and dink and dunk down the field,
> >don't give em man coverage explosion pass play oppties.
>
> They were in a zone most of the game. Watch it.
> They blitzed in this game, less than they have.
> In this game it was the zone that killed... not the blitz.
> But, it sure does make a good subject line.

But it ignores the point you are making. With the best tandem of cover
CBs in the league this team played zone most of the time against the
league's most accurate short and medium distance passer (except perhaps
for Peyton). I have not evidence but my lying eyes, but I think Drew
Coleman is another player who does better in man than in zone.

Turning off the game so quickly, I did not notice this. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

harlan


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 8 2010 10:24 am
From: Grinch


On Dec 8, 12:38 am, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 18:21:31 -0800 (PST), JetsLife <JetsL...@aol.com> wrote:
> >On Dec 6, 9:31 pm, Grinch <oldna...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >> Jets pressure holds Brady to 4 of 9 in 1st Q.
>
> >> Pats have 4th and 3rd at end of 1st Q.
>
> >> Rex brings Big Blitz ... 25-yd TD pass ... 0-17.
>
> >Yes yes yes. It seems the Jets blitzed too much. It's almost like they
> >took an irrational tack with no Leonhard: let's blitz a lot and expose
> >our weakened secondary unit to nightmarish man coverage. I'd of much
> >preferred a 1-man rush all game and flooding the field from 5 - 20 yds
> >with defenders. Let the Pats run and dink and dunk down the field,
> >don't give em man coverage explosion pass play oppties.
>
> They were in a zone most of the game.  Watch it.
> They blitzed in this game, less than they have.
> In this game it was the zone that killed... not the blitz.
> But, it sure does make a good subject line.

Regardless of the rest of the game, did you watch the play the subject
line was about? The one that put 'em down 0-17?

Regarding the rest of the game:

In the post-game the press asked Brady what the keys were to having
such a great performance.

The two things he said were: They brought a lot of heavy blitzes we
were able to take advantage of ... we were able to get good matchups
against their man coverage.

I just watched it again, yup, that's what he said.

Maybe he was lying to try to fool us for next time.


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TOPIC: Punish Pratt
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/ce8a203b81ab455f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 8 2010 8:12 am
From: "JKConey"

"Tutor" <dcat4434@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:0064ac53-fabc-4040-a744-29fc3b7687b2@j32g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 7, 3:16 pm, MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Last night was a lopsided win for the Pats. Nice job by them. Crappy
> job by Rex and this team. It's one game. And being Brian Pratt is
> punishment enough in and of itself. There's no need for anyone else
> to pile on.


So true. Sure I wanted my team to win, but I have a great life either
way. These games, and trying to bully and pick on other teams fans is all he
has.

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www.myconeyislandmemories.com


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TOPIC: In respect of Don Meredith
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/1969db4fa54fb88d?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 8 2010 8:16 am
From: "JKConey"

"MuahMan" <muahman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8403b9ff-b8b0-4ff4-acfe-31de97e377cd@j32g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 6, 10:53 pm, Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Bwahahahahahahahhahahahahhahaha
>
> You have 0 talent on offense. The only good player you had was
> Woodhead....
>
> How many yards did LT and Greene have?
>
> Bwhahahahaha


You sound like a 12 year old. How old are you?

--

www.myconeyislandmemories.com

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 8 2010 10:26 am
From: Tutor


On Dec 7, 12:27 am, Professor <vzey7...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Dec 7, 12:08 am, Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 6, 11:47 pm, Wabenzi Prince <DerrickLawre...@gnaa.us> wrote:
>
> > > Tutor wrote:
>
> > > > You are really that stupid aren't you?  LOL.  DUmb as a doorknobb and
> > > > proud of it.
>
> > > shut up tudor our I'll slap your face
>
> > you must be Brian's boyfriend.  You are about as literate as Pratt.
> > Do you mumble into each other's ears when you embrace?
>
> Dude, STFU.  Your team just got humiliated, try to show some class
> next time.  You make all Jets fans look bad.

says the troll visiting another team's newsgroup. LOL. GFY. Trying
to figure out which group is more stupid... Pats trolls hjere or
Dolphins trolls here? Got it... easy... Dolphins trolls by a long
shot. The irony is that our resident Pats troll with the low IQ
lives... you guessed it... in south Florida.

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TOPIC: RIP Dandy Don.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/ed5dcd6d2e1e0747?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 8 2010 8:21 am
From: "JKConey"

"Ray O'Hara" <raymond-ohara@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:idivum$1v3$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> he was a 1st rate QB and he endeared himself to America by calling out
> Cosell on his bullshit.
> When Lennon was murdered Cosell was against mentioning such a trivial
> thing on the air during a game.
> Meredith insisted it was big news and had to be mentioned, after a few
> minutes arguing Meredith carried the argument and Cosell read the
> announcement.
> it became the biggest story Cosell ever broke and he ever after took full
> "credit" for thr the story.
> a leaked tape of the off-air debate in the booth showed it was Dandy Don
> and Frank Gifford who wanted it mentioned.
>
> RIP dandy Don.
>


Totally wrong Ray. Don wasn't there at all. It was Fran Tarkenton,
Howard, and Giff. I heard the tape today, and Cosell basically questioned
whether to go with it on air once, and then immediately said OK, when they
all agreed it was warranted. Wanna reload your version?

--

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TOPIC: My 2010 predictions exact so far (link included)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/51378b90351327ee?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 8 2010 9:19 am
From: Michael


Here is the link for most of our 2010 predictions.

I predicted the Jets to go 13-3 with a loss the first week to the
Ravens, a loss to the Pack and a loss in the second NE game. Can the
Jets win the next four and make me look good ??? :-)

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/browse_thread/thread/eb6ec7e8ea0cf15/540f31c70a3713e7?lnk=gst&q=2010+predictions#540f31c70a3713e7

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 8 2010 9:51 am
From: BicketyBam


On Dec 8, 12:19 pm, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Here is the link for most of our 2010 predictions.
>
> I predicted the Jets to go 13-3 with a loss the first week to the
> Ravens, a loss to the Pack and a loss in the second NE game.  Can the
> Jets win the next four and make me look good ??? :-)
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/browse...

I did my prediction after the Miami game, with the Jets sitting at
2-1. My final prediction was 10-6. I am off by one game so, as I had
them losing in Denver. From here on out I had the following:

Miami - L
Pit - L
Chicago - W
Buf - W

However, I think they will beat Miami and lose to Chicago. So 11-5. I
like your scenario much better.


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 8 2010 10:18 am
From: Michael


On Dec 8, 12:51 pm, BicketyBam <econdre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 8, 12:19 pm, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > Here is the link for most of our 2010 predictions.
>
> > I predicted the Jets to go 13-3 with a loss the first week to the
> > Ravens, a loss to the Pack and a loss in the second NE game.  Can the
> > Jets win the next four and make me look good ??? :-)
>
> >http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/browse...
>
> I did my prediction after the Miami game, with the Jets sitting at
> 2-1. My final prediction was 10-6. I am off by one game so, as I had
> them losing in Denver. From here on out I had the following:
>
> Miami - L
> Pit - L
> Chicago - W
> Buf - W
>
> However, I think they will beat Miami and lose to Chicago. So 11-5. I
> like your scenario much better.

of the four remaining teams, none presents a huge problem for the jets
defense.

*miami is a lesser team than the jets but the jets need to rebound
strong after the monday night melt down. if they kept their heads
they should win this one convincingliy... the key word is *if* they
kept their heads. lets see what they are made of.

* chicago's offense depends a lot on their wide outs getting free
or ... they hope for a double team on one of their wide outs to get TE
greg olson matched up favorably. the jet db's should be able to play
man well agains the chicago wide outs leaving plenty of manpower left
to cover the TE and play some zone. chicago has a lot of long slow
developing deep patterns that that is what the jet defense plays best
against. chicago's passing game is the anti-new england style.

*pittsburg. they are beat up and rely on big plays. the jets should
be able to keep it very close and score enough to win this game. my
fear is that even though the jets can beat the steelers, they wont be
able to beat the steeler's officials. if the jets cant manage to stay
two scores ahead of the steelers going into the last two minutes of
the game, the officials will hand the game to the steelers by means of
phantom calls and a blind eye to steelers flagrant offensive holding
on rapistberger *heroic last minute drive*

*buffalo. chan galey may not be a good HC, but he knows what he is
doing on offense. the bills have been able to score. they will score
on the jets. now that buff has conceeded that they cant run a 34 with
the guys they have, even their defense is playing better. this is the
true trap game for the jets.

the jets can indeed win the next four games. it is not impossible.
if they take their new england boiled ass kicking like men, it could
be the medicine they needed to get it cranked up.

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TOPIC: Miami: Perfect Opponent
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/3b136715fe07fd11?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 8 2010 10:01 am
From: BicketyBam


On Dec 7, 7:49 pm, rt <bellingham...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 7, 2:48 pm, BicketyBam <Blo...@joemama.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > euphy <e phem...@mindspring.com> wrote innews:49j29a.1u5.19.2@news.alt.net:
>
> > > On 12/7/2010 3:46 PM, BicketyBam wrote:
> > >> Miami is the perfect opponent for us this week. They aren't so bad
> > >> that a win rings hollow and they aren't good enough to beat us at
> > >> home. I have watched a fair amount of the Dolphins games this year
> > >> and I can't see them beating us on Sunday. Their defense is pretty
> > >> good, but it can be beat especially by passes to Keller. Cam Wake is
> > >> an excellent pass rusher, but we held him sackless in the first
> > >> meeting. Miami will have a hard time covering Edwards, Holmes,
> > >> Cotchery and Keller. Running will be tough sledding, but we will
> > >> eventually get out yards. Henne has looked mostly awful this year. He
> > >> has a very hard time with cover 2 and I hope Rex and staff have
> > >> noticed. I would play lots of zone and wait for him to be confused,
> > >> which shouldn't take long. He was God awful last week. Lastly, Ricky
> > >> and Ronnie will do nothing against us on the ground.
>
> > >> There is no reason why the Jets shouldn't improve to 10-3 with a
> > >> convincing victory over Miami on Sunday. We will also be 4-1 in the
> > >> division and will have ended any glimmer of playoff hope for Miami.
> > >> Bank on it. Rex is going to have the defense ready to kill. Sunday
> > >> can't get here soon enough.
>
> > > YES!  YES!  WE BEAT MIAMI AND THEN MEET THE PATS IN THE PLAY....  oh
> > > fuck.....
>
> > I'll take my chances with another shot at the Pats.....and who knows - the
> > Pats might lose and we never have to  play them. Like last year. And Miami
> > will be home. Like last year.
>
> > But I digress. Miami is really in for an ass kicking.
>
> Yes Bam, last years' waltzing into to the playoffs against
> insurmountable odds was truly awe inspiring, but I think you'll find
> the end of this season may play out a bit differently facing some
> decent teams who actually have incentive to win.
>
> As a Dolphins fan I think the analysis posed in your OP is pretty
> accurate.  We are a poorly coached, offensively-flawed team with a
> decent defense.  I'd trade you a Henning for a Shotty in a nanosecond,
> but odds are, neither of us would be happy with the replacement.
>
> Henne is not good, and he's likely not ever going be above average.
> From what I've seen of the Jet's D, without the predictable overloads
> and full on blitzes, they don't seem to pressure the QB, but
> unfortunately Chad is a guy who may do worse when he has time to think
> about it.  Given our running game is anemic, and our top two WRs are
> either out or injured, a standard cover 2 will likely suffice.
>
> I've never been a huge Sanchez fan, but at this stage of the game he
> shows more promise than Chad, although I'm curious to see how he'll
> handle a serious run of adversity.  We've got a patchwork secondary,
> and Keller and Holmes will likely post big numbers.
>
> But, this is Miami/NYJ.  Anything can happen and often does.
>
> It should be entertaining.
>
> rt- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

We seem to be on the same page, rt. I've actually followed Miami
pretty closely this year because I think they are a decent football
team that would be right in the mix for the division. If it weren't
for the Jets getting embarassed on MNF, I'd say the game would be very
tight (and it still may be). But I think Miami is going to see a very
pissed off Jets team who is going to be looking to redeem themselves.
I expect the Jets to be very physical on defense. And while Henne has
had 2 good games against the Jets in his short career, I don't think
he will have one this Sunday.

Sorry if my post came off as smack talk - I was just a little riled up
after that major ass kicking. Hopefully my team will be as well :)
Thanks for the decent response.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 8 2010 6:49 am
From: "Brad Machado"


On 12/7/2010 16:46, BicketyBam wrote:
>Miami is the perfect opponent for us this week. They aren't so bad
>that a win rings hollow and they aren't good enough to beat us at
>home. I have watched a fair amount of the Dolphins games this year
>and I can't see them beating us on Sunday. Their defense is pretty
>good, but it can be beat especially by passes to Keller. Cam Wake is
>an excellent pass rusher, but we held him sackless in the first
>meeting. Miami will have a hard time covering Edwards, Holmes,
>Cotchery and Keller. Running will be tough sledding, but we will
>eventually get out yards. Henne has looked mostly awful this year. He
>has a very hard time with cover 2 and I hope Rex and staff have
>noticed. I would play lots of zone and wait for him to be confused,
>which shouldn't take long. He was God awful last week. Lastly, Ricky
>and Ronnie will do nothing against us on the ground.
>
>There is no reason why the Jets shouldn't improve to 10-3 with a
>convincing victory over Miami on Sunday. We will also be 4-1 in the
>division and will have ended any glimmer of playoff hope for Miami.
>Bank on it. Rex is going to have the defense ready to kill. Sunday
>can't get here soon enough.

just like monday against the pats could not come fast enough, eh
dipshit?

typical asshole craig cartoon like jet fan: you actually think your
team is great. well newsflash dickbag: the jets are an average team
that has a good record because you beat (and just barely) CRAP teams.
but the moment you play REAL teams like the pats, you get exposed for
the fraud you are.

so like cartoon, you keep on thinking that a win against a shit team
like miami is somehow going to redeem you from the beating you got
against the great pats. with lt, santonio holmes, braylan edwards, etc
your shit team only could score 3 points against the WORST defense in
the nfl. you still have not won a game against an over 500 team yet
this year. so keep braying on like your fat fuck coach you losers who
have not won a super bowl in 42 years.

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Date: Wed, Dec 8 2010 10:26 am
From: Michael


Many sources now linking Kubiak as the new Denver HC for next year.

:( snif snif...


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