Sunday, December 19, 2010

[socialactionfoundationforequity:11087 WE NEED TO CHANGE THE ATTITUDE OF AVERAGE INDIAN TO FIGHT CORRUPTION

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This is simply a request to you all to join in an effort for change :


WE NEED TO CHANGE THE ATTITUDE OF AVERAGE INDIAN TO FIGHT CORRUPTION, OTHER SERIOUS PROBLEMS.

 

The problems that India is facing, is because of Passive attitude of Indians, which we inherited because of inward coiling of Hindu religion during 1000 years of invaders rule. No effort was made to change this after Independence. Some of the measureable parameters to measure the success/failure of Religion are:

 

1.       Female foeticide,

2.       Lack of education for girls,

3.       Dowry deaths,

4.       Suicides among farmers,

5.       Increase in court cases among relatives,

6.       Corruption, mistrust and discontent,

And all this, despite the fact, that spending on religion by Hindus has increased drastically. REVIVAL OF HINDU RELIGION IS THE ONLY WAY FORWARD.

Every religion has 3 essential PERFORMING parts, which are as follows:
1. Pooja or worship
2. Rituals e.g. Havan, breaking of coconut, etc..
3. Physical performing part of the religion, or Dharm; You can also say Duties,Responsibilities;

As far as Hindus are concerned, the Physical performing part of the religion, or DHARM as some would say, was substantially REDUCED during the last 1000 years, and this is a historical fact. Nothing has been done after independence to change this. This is causing lot of problems in attitude of average Hindu.

Until and unless we address this problem, Hindus will not be able to enjoy the fruits of Democracy. This requires immediate redress.

Why are we suffering now? Please read my blog post A review of RAMCHARITMANAS,  URL:  and Are we doing enough as Hindus. You will find the reason there. You can comment on the blog post itself or here. I will reply. This blog has been designed with a STRONG EMOTIONAL content, which is based on truth, and rejects Hypocrisy; it is my HUMBLE request to you to carry this forward, if you think the issue is important.

My declared and stated views are that Dharm HAS to find ways to end Corruption and SUPPORT the aspiration of Hindu Society for ROTI KAPRA AUR MAKAAN.

Regards,

Kulbhushan Singhal

PS: MY BLOG : AGNI PARIKSHA OF SITA, URL: http://awara32.blogspot.com/

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alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets - 25 new messages in 17 topics - digest

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alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets?hl=en

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Today's topics:

* defense allows only 10 points but - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/ca72dec23f967285?hl=en
* vaunted defense - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/18d22b480fd58348?hl=en
* clock management - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/f34e65d864e25562?hl=en
* shouldn't it be first and 25? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/98824168d23027c3?hl=en
* A stop on 3rd down!!!!!!!!!!! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/311f848e6a5f4e13?hl=en
* Officating - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/755974707b8a9e58?hl=en
* More proof that Schott is a football half-wit. - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/5e3a9399d9a4929e?hl=en
* a 4th quarter lead! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/f59b1059cc1419fd?hl=en
* another 3rd down stop!! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/e6c6bb9fba838916?hl=en
* Wouldn't it have been great.... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/08ab76d0287736e7?hl=en
* Now Greene me! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/985996605d4677d5?hl=en
* a great trick play for once - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/0b45238d1b546d31?hl=en
* out-of-bounds, out-of-bounds, out-of-bounds, incomplete - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/7fdf7281ec217be4?hl=en
* Taylor safety - Now Greene me! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/fcb60db796d826e2?hl=en
* Tough win... tough players... bad coaching... - 5 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/01938c2597d594cd?hl=en
* Good win - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/400dec66fc03081d?hl=en
* What are the home game playoff scenarios ??? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/e8467e87a7da95d5?hl=en

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TOPIC: defense allows only 10 points but
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/ca72dec23f967285?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 3:10 pm
From: Percy Flage


On 19/12/2010 22:47, Tutor wrote:
> On Dec 19, 5:38 pm, Tutor<dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> missed tackles galore; can't stop them on third down and when the
>> defense did, the refs gave the Steelers an extra yard and a half on a
>> bogus spot; opposing TEs eat this defense alive. No pass rush.
>> Ever.
>>
>> I'm so glad Rex compared them to the '86 Bears. Just warms my heart
>> to know Rex is grounded in reality.
>
> not to mention the defense burning an early time out due to the
> weekly defensive confusion out there. Could have used that time out
> at the end of the half, dontcha think?

In reality, we only had time to take 2 timeouts at the end of the first
half. Which we elected not to do. Baffling.

--
Percy Flage
"Life is too short to have to explain everyday."

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TOPIC: vaunted defense
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/18d22b480fd58348?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 3:13 pm
From: Percy Flage


On 19/12/2010 22:56, Tutor wrote:
> yeah right.

To be fair, 94 yards is the longest drive they've given up since Rex
took over. They're the #3 ranked D in yards allowed and that includes
the game @Pats.

--
Percy Flage
"Life is too short to have to explain everyday."

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TOPIC: clock management
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/f34e65d864e25562?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 3:16 pm
From: Percy Flage


On 19/12/2010 22:34, Tutor wrote:
> Time management on this team is horrific. Might actually be worse
> than it was under Herm. It's damned close.

Give over. Rex is not pefect, but he's a long, long, long way from Herm
"you play to not lose the game" Edwards.

--
Percy Flage
"Life is too short to have to explain everyday."


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 3:20 pm
From: Tutor


On Dec 19, 6:16 pm, Percy Flage
<percy.flage_REM@OVE_ianwhitephoto.co.uk> wrote:
> On 19/12/2010 22:34, Tutor wrote:
>
> > Time management on this team is horrific.  Might actually be worse
> > than it was under Herm.  It's damned close.
>
> Give over. Rex is not pefect, but he's a long, long, long way from Herm
> "you play to not lose the game" Edwards.
>
> --
> Percy Flage
> "Life is too short to have to explain everyday."

not in terms of clock managemnt and wasted timeouts by both the
offense and the defense. it's bad. Really bad.


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 3:22 pm
From: Percy Flage


On 19/12/2010 23:20, Tutor wrote:
> On Dec 19, 6:16 pm, Percy Flage
> <percy.flage_REM@OVE_ianwhitephoto.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 19/12/2010 22:34, Tutor wrote:
>>
>>> Time management on this team is horrific. Might actually be worse
>>> than it was under Herm. It's damned close.
>>
>> Give over. Rex is not pefect, but he's a long, long, long way from Herm
>> "you play to not lose the game" Edwards.
>>
>> --
>> Percy Flage
>> "Life is too short to have to explain everyday."
>
> not in terms of clock managemnt and wasted timeouts by both the
> offense and the defense. it's bad. Really bad.

Yes, he's far from perfect on clock management, but he's no Herm.

--
Percy Flage
"Life is too short to have to explain everyday."

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TOPIC: shouldn't it be first and 25?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/98824168d23027c3?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 3:17 pm
From: "Ray O'Hara"


they got the first, okay. but it was a dead ball foul. why do they get it as
1st and 10?

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TOPIC: A stop on 3rd down!!!!!!!!!!!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/311f848e6a5f4e13?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 3:18 pm
From: Tutor


WOOOOOOOOOOO

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TOPIC: Officating
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/755974707b8a9e58?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 3:20 pm
From: Percy Flage


On 19/12/2010 22:26, WaterBoy wrote:
>
> "Tutor" <dcat4434@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:21d07238-d53a-4578-8f78-0b65f1b97143@l32g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 19, 5:03 pm, "WaterBoy" <Water...@somewhere.com> wrote:
>> Here we go! Questionable hold inside the red zone and mendenhall runs
>> for 9
>> yards, more then a yard short of the markers and the zebras give the
>> Squeelers a first down...
>>
>> WaterBoy
>
> 2 teams in this league get all the calls almost all the time: The
> Steelers and the Cheaters*. That much has been obvious for years.
>
> How about the flag "Falling" out of the Zebra's pockets 3 times in the
> first quarter? Was that insurance perhaps, just in case the Jets make a
> first down or the Sqeelers somehow get burned?

It's not until you see the individual officiating "ineptitiudes" that
you realise how "lucky" the Steelers have been. To see Rothlisberger
protesting a "what for" when their DB speared Edwards helmet first was
enough for me.

--
Percy Flage
"Life is too short to have to explain everyday."


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 6:24 pm
From: "papa.carl44"

"Percy Flage" <percy.flage_REM@OVE_ianwhitephoto.co.uk> wrote in message
news:GqwPo.57760$N41.18652@newsfe23.ams2...
> On 19/12/2010 22:26, WaterBoy wrote:
>>
>> "Tutor" <dcat4434@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:21d07238-d53a-4578-8f78-0b65f1b97143@l32g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>> On Dec 19, 5:03 pm, "WaterBoy" <Water...@somewhere.com> wrote:
>>> Here we go! Questionable hold inside the red zone and mendenhall runs
>>> for 9
>>> yards, more then a yard short of the markers and the zebras give the
>>> Squeelers a first down...
>>>
>>> WaterBoy
>>
>> 2 teams in this league get all the calls almost all the time: The
>> Steelers and the Cheaters*. That much has been obvious for years.
>>
>> How about the flag "Falling" out of the Zebra's pockets 3 times in the
>> first quarter? Was that insurance perhaps, just in case the Jets make a
>> first down or the Sqeelers somehow get burned?
>
> It's not until you see the individual officiating "ineptitiudes" that you
> realise how "lucky" the Steelers have been. To see Rothlisberger
> protesting a "what for" when their DB speared Edwards helmet first was
> enough for me.
>
> --
> Percy Flage
> "Life is too short to have to explain everyday."

Percy....I really like you motto....can I borrow it?

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TOPIC: More proof that Schott is a football half-wit.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/5e3a9399d9a4929e?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 3:27 pm
From: cd


On Dec 19, 4:52 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 06:58:28 -0800 (PST), Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >On Dec 16, 11:47 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 12:40:28 -0800 (PST), Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >> -snip-
>
> >> >> >About time they started writing Shotty up. Three years late is better
> >> >> >than never. I was beginning to wonder what the hell was taking so
> >> >> >long. A ray of hope. If they can his ass it will make me VERY happy
> >> >> >and it will make the Jets a much better team with one swift stroke...
> >> >> >Get his ass outa there now.
>
> >> >> With one caveat... who does Rex bring in?
> >> >> I'll be happy when Schott goes, and I don't think it would be possible to bring anyone
> >> >> worse in, unless they hired John C ;)
>
> >> >> But, who Rex brings in is big. In view of what seems to be his managing style, he needs
> >> >> to bring in a guy with a solid resume - - someone who can take over the mess, and quickly
> >> >> turn it into something coherent.
>
> >> >if i am any judge of things... schotty wont get canned this season...
> >> >rex and management will continue to pay him lip service and will kiss
> >> >him off at the end of this season with a stellar referance... still...
> >> >i'm guessing things are being taken out of shotty's hands now even as
> >> >we type and read here. i'd also expect that rex will have a big part
> >> >in who gets the job next. i cant tell you who it will be, but i'm
> >> >sure they will go with a guy that has proven ability and is able to
> >> >"run the big machine" so to speak. given when the jet offense just
> >> >did to their season these past weeks, NO WAY are they going to turn it
> >> >over to anyone that does not have a bunch of pelts on the wall.
>
> >> And more quotes that illustrates that it aint Rex making critical decisions on O... it's
> >> Schott, as is obvious to anyone with any bit of objectivity, eyes & ears.
> >> This is specifically for Tut & John C, who too often make statements, on this, based on
> >> what they think, rather than actual statements & actions by those involved.
>
> >> From Schott's presser today, when asked about the spike play...
>
> >> "We made the first down. We had a bunch of guys deep down the field. We had vertical route
> >> on. We made the first down and I called in for Mark to spike it and he spiked it.
> >> Obviously, it would be nice to have that down. Rex explained to me his thoughts. I don t
> >> disagree with him. I think that s the general philosophy we have. Inside a minute, you
> >> always try to spike it when you have no timeouts left, but in that situation, with how
> >> deep everybody was down the field, I thought it gave us the best chance to get everybody
> >> back and get to the play that we wanted. We had quite a ways to go, so we were going to
> >> get more into chunk plays or aggressive plays."
>
> >> *****************
> >> And this is what is on Rex... he lets Schott make these decisions... then questions them
> >> after. Just like the benching of Shonn in game one, and numerous other instances this
> >> season.
> >> If Rex isn't going to get more involved with the O, then he needs a competent OC, or he'll
> >> be having a short HCing career.
> >> ****************
>
> >> On if Coach Ryan is the kind of coach that gets on you for a couple of bad performances:
>
> >> "No, Rex is great. Rex looks for solutions. Like I always say, we always want to keep Rex
> >> out of the meeting room. Monday morning, first thing, he was in there bright and early
> >> with us. I don t take offense to it. I recognize what we re doing is not good enough and
> >> he never points the finger. He s just in there (saying), "How can I help? Show me this
> >> again. Let me see what I can see. Why s that guy unblocked in the running game? Hey, what
> >> do we think about this?" He just gives it a different perspective, but Rex is great to
> >> work with. He and I, we work really well together."
>
> >> ***************
> >> Schott is saying that Rex only gets involved when there are problems. He doesn't want Rex
> >> around.
> >> Good to see Rex at the meeting, but why only now?
> >> Again... this illustrates that Rex hasn't been involved, and the O is Schott's baby.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >obviously... not a qualified statement on my part... but two things
> >come into play here...  depending on how you look at it, rex may or
> >may not be to blame for shotty...
>
> >first off, lets agree that schotty can not do the job... as he has
> >proven... clearly...
>
> >does rex knowingly and willfully push the offense off on to schotty so
> >rex can put all his attention into being the jets defensive
> >coordinator and not the HC ??? perhaps preferring to keep his blinders
> >on ??? having almost contempt for the part of the game we call
> >*offense* ??? with all of this, rex still having the juice to remove
> >schotty at any time and rex not making the needed changes because he's
> >blind ???
>
> >or...
>
> >as it has been suggested... for political reasons, is rex stuck with
> >schotty ???
>
> >or...
>
> >perhaps a bit of both ??? rex may not care so much about the offense
> >as he does the defense and the political inertia in favor of schotty
> >makes rex even less inclined to make a visible move to get him out...
>
> -or- Rex just wanted to delegate the O to Schott, and the STs to Westhoff, and deal with
> the rest.  It hasn't worked out for him, so he's getting more involved with the O.
> As far as being stuck with Schott, I just think that's making things more complicated,
> than they probably are.
> Rex was hired & thought continuity on O would make his life easier.
> If he's dissatisfied with Schott, he'll fire him at the end of the season.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text

To all those that are on those that think Schott is the problem, that
was an awesome 4 and 1 call to tie the game. Even if that hadn't
worked, that is the kind of call we want, set the defense up, simple,
no shifts and jukes by players without the ball. Perfect call.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 3:38 pm
From: buRford


On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 15:27:53 -0800 (PST), cd <cd2k@verizon.net> wrote:

>On Dec 19, 4:52 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 06:58:28 -0800 (PST), Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> >On Dec 16, 11:47 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 12:40:28 -0800 (PST), Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> -snip-
>>
>> >> >> >About time they started writing Shotty up. Three years late is better
>> >> >> >than never. I was beginning to wonder what the hell was taking so
>> >> >> >long. A ray of hope. If they can his ass it will make me VERY happy
>> >> >> >and it will make the Jets a much better team with one swift stroke...
>> >> >> >Get his ass outa there now.
>>
>> >> >> With one caveat... who does Rex bring in?
>> >> >> I'll be happy when Schott goes, and I don't think it would be possible to bring anyone
>> >> >> worse in, unless they hired John C ;)
>>
>> >> >> But, who Rex brings in is big. In view of what seems to be his managing style, he needs
>> >> >> to bring in a guy with a solid resume - - someone who can take over the mess, and quickly
>> >> >> turn it into something coherent.
>>
>> >> >if i am any judge of things... schotty wont get canned this season...
>> >> >rex and management will continue to pay him lip service and will kiss
>> >> >him off at the end of this season with a stellar referance... still...
>> >> >i'm guessing things are being taken out of shotty's hands now even as
>> >> >we type and read here. i'd also expect that rex will have a big part
>> >> >in who gets the job next. i cant tell you who it will be, but i'm
>> >> >sure they will go with a guy that has proven ability and is able to
>> >> >"run the big machine" so to speak. given when the jet offense just
>> >> >did to their season these past weeks, NO WAY are they going to turn it
>> >> >over to anyone that does not have a bunch of pelts on the wall.
>>
>> >> And more quotes that illustrates that it aint Rex making critical decisions on O... it's
>> >> Schott, as is obvious to anyone with any bit of objectivity, eyes & ears.
>> >> This is specifically for Tut & John C, who too often make statements, on this, based on
>> >> what they think, rather than actual statements & actions by those involved.
>>
>> >> From Schott's presser today, when asked about the spike play...
>>
>> >> "We made the first down. We had a bunch of guys deep down the field. We had vertical route
>> >> on. We made the first down and I called in for Mark to spike it and he spiked it.
>> >> Obviously, it would be nice to have that down. Rex explained to me his thoughts. I don t
>> >> disagree with him. I think that s the general philosophy we have. Inside a minute, you
>> >> always try to spike it when you have no timeouts left, but in that situation, with how
>> >> deep everybody was down the field, I thought it gave us the best chance to get everybody
>> >> back and get to the play that we wanted. We had quite a ways to go, so we were going to
>> >> get more into chunk plays or aggressive plays."
>>
>> >> *****************
>> >> And this is what is on Rex... he lets Schott make these decisions... then questions them
>> >> after. Just like the benching of Shonn in game one, and numerous other instances this
>> >> season.
>> >> If Rex isn't going to get more involved with the O, then he needs a competent OC, or he'll
>> >> be having a short HCing career.
>> >> ****************
>>
>> >> On if Coach Ryan is the kind of coach that gets on you for a couple of bad performances:
>>
>> >> "No, Rex is great. Rex looks for solutions. Like I always say, we always want to keep Rex
>> >> out of the meeting room. Monday morning, first thing, he was in there bright and early
>> >> with us. I don t take offense to it. I recognize what we re doing is not good enough and
>> >> he never points the finger. He s just in there (saying), "How can I help? Show me this
>> >> again. Let me see what I can see. Why s that guy unblocked in the running game? Hey, what
>> >> do we think about this?" He just gives it a different perspective, but Rex is great to
>> >> work with. He and I, we work really well together."
>>
>> >> ***************
>> >> Schott is saying that Rex only gets involved when there are problems. He doesn't want Rex
>> >> around.
>> >> Good to see Rex at the meeting, but why only now?
>> >> Again... this illustrates that Rex hasn't been involved, and the O is Schott's baby.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> >obviously... not a qualified statement on my part... but two things
>> >come into play here...  depending on how you look at it, rex may or
>> >may not be to blame for shotty...
>>
>> >first off, lets agree that schotty can not do the job... as he has
>> >proven... clearly...
>>
>> >does rex knowingly and willfully push the offense off on to schotty so
>> >rex can put all his attention into being the jets defensive
>> >coordinator and not the HC ??? perhaps preferring to keep his blinders
>> >on ??? having almost contempt for the part of the game we call
>> >*offense* ??? with all of this, rex still having the juice to remove
>> >schotty at any time and rex not making the needed changes because he's
>> >blind ???
>>
>> >or...
>>
>> >as it has been suggested... for political reasons, is rex stuck with
>> >schotty ???
>>
>> >or...
>>
>> >perhaps a bit of both ??? rex may not care so much about the offense
>> >as he does the defense and the political inertia in favor of schotty
>> >makes rex even less inclined to make a visible move to get him out...
>>
>> -or- Rex just wanted to delegate the O to Schott, and the STs to Westhoff, and deal with
>> the rest.  It hasn't worked out for him, so he's getting more involved with the O.
>> As far as being stuck with Schott, I just think that's making things more complicated,
>> than they probably are.
>> Rex was hired & thought continuity on O would make his life easier.
>> If he's dissatisfied with Schott, he'll fire him at the end of the season.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text
>
>To all those that are on those that think Schott is the problem, that
>was an awesome 4 and 1 call to tie the game. Even if that hadn't
>worked, that is the kind of call we want, set the defense up, simple,
>no shifts and jukes by players without the ball. Perfect call.

Exactly.
But unfortunately, it's so rare.
Offense is playing pretty well today, but still so much they could do, if they actually
attacked Steeler weaknesses/tendencies.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 3:33 pm
From: Tutor


come on defense... hold 'em!

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TOPIC: another 3rd down stop!!
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 3:41 pm
From: Tutor


3rd and 19, we only give 'em 17. A stop is a stop. Good job Go
defense!

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 3:42 pm
From: buRford


On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 18:09:33 -0500, "papa.carl44" <papadotcarl@nospamverizon.net> wrote:

>If someone had used this kid to play to his abilities and not his defecits?
>That play fake boot was as good as it gets. The kid can do some things very
>well.
>

Yup, but making him a straight drop-back QB, is what the O design warrants.
If this was a smart O, Keller would be having a big game.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 3:44 pm
From: Tutor


extreme Greene!!!!!!

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 3:47 pm
From: Tutor


now Greene me. Extreme Greene!

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 3:49 pm
From: "yoyodog"


Great drive and what do they do? keep going out of bounds. WTF???

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 3:53 pm
From: Tutor


they need 6... we have the ball. Shonn Greene time

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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 4:36 pm
From: buRford


Great win. Maybe a bit too much for my heart.
Sanchez played great... Wayne Hunter, Braylon... the players really stepped up.

But the decisions by the coaches, on both sides of the ball, in the last coupla minutes...
yow.

Rex was just too conservative. Ya have to at least rush 4. With no rush, Ben just waited
for the open receiver. Once in the Red Zone, then that D made sense, and coverage was
great.

On O, they were rushing nicely after the safety, then he decided to pass... dumb.
Even if the rush didn't work, it kills time. Dumb.

Great win.

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 4:38 pm
From: buRford


On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 19:36:16 -0500, buRford <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote:

>Great win. Maybe a bit too much for my heart.
>Sanchez played great... Wayne Hunter, Braylon... the players really stepped up.
>
>But the decisions by the coaches, on both sides of the ball, in the last coupla minutes...
>yow.
>
>Rex was just too conservative. Ya have to at least rush 4. With no rush, Ben just waited
>for the open receiver. Once in the Red Zone, then that D made sense, and coverage was
>great.
>
>On O, they were rushing nicely after the safety, then he decided to pass... dumb.
>Even if the rush didn't work, it kills time. Dumb.
>
>Great win.

Forgot one thing... Weatherford redeemed himself today. Just a great job pinning Pitts
deep.


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 5:13 pm
From: cd


On Dec 19, 7:38 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 19:36:16 -0500, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> >Great win.  Maybe a bit too much for my heart.
> >Sanchez played great...  Wayne Hunter, Braylon... the players really stepped up.
>
> >But the decisions by the coaches, on both sides of the ball, in the last coupla minutes...
> >yow.
>
> >Rex was just too conservative.  Ya have to at least rush 4.  With no rush, Ben just waited
> >for the open receiver.  Once in the Red Zone, then that D made sense, and coverage was
> >great.
>
> >On O, they were rushing nicely after the safety, then he decided to pass... dumb.
> >Even if the rush didn't work, it kills time.  Dumb.
>
> >Great win.
>
> Forgot one thing... Weatherford redeemed himself today.  Just a great job pinning Pitts
> deep.

Nothing cute by Schottenheimer today, they lined up and went to work.
Even LT looked good, so it means that if Schottenheimer concentrates
on the play calling rather than the cute plays, the Jets have a
chance. The clock management is a concern and I think how removed
Ryan is from the Offense has a lot to do with it; that is my hope and
not that he is this inept.


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 5:18 pm
From: MuahMan


On Dec 19, 7:36 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> Great win.  Maybe a bit too much for my heart.
> Sanchez played great...  Wayne Hunter, Braylon... the players really stepped up.
>
> But the decisions by the coaches, on both sides of the ball, in the last coupla minutes...
> yow.
>
> Rex was just too conservative.  Ya have to at least rush 4.  With no rush, Ben just waited
> for the open receiver.  Once in the Red Zone, then that D made sense, and coverage was
> great.
>
> On O, they were rushing nicely after the safety, then he decided to pass... dumb.
> Even if the rush didn't work, it kills time.  Dumb.
>
> Great win.

Jets are lucky the officials refused to call PI on that last
Pittsburgh drive.


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 6:04 pm
From: Michael


On Dec 19, 8:18 pm, MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 19, 7:36 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>
> > Great win.  Maybe a bit too much for my heart.
> > Sanchez played great...  Wayne Hunter, Braylon... the players really stepped up.
>
> > But the decisions by the coaches, on both sides of the ball, in the last coupla minutes...
> > yow.
>
> > Rex was just too conservative.  Ya have to at least rush 4.  With no rush, Ben just waited
> > for the open receiver.  Once in the Red Zone, then that D made sense, and coverage was
> > great.
>
> > On O, they were rushing nicely after the safety, then he decided to pass... dumb.
> > Even if the rush didn't work, it kills time.  Dumb.
>
> > Great win.
>
> Jets are lucky the officials refused to call PI on that last
> Pittsburgh drive.

for one.... FOR ONCE... the other team gets a break vs. the
steelers...

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 5:41 pm
From: "RickyBobby"


The Steelers have better players but the Jets have a better head coach.
That head coach of the Steelers must be some kind of affirmative action
placement.


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 6:06 pm
From: Michael


What are the chances the Jets land a home playoff game with one more
win ??? Say they go 11-5


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== 1 of 14 ==
Date: Sat, Dec 18 2010 10:43 pm
From: "Dano"

"Jane_Galt" <Jane__Galt@GaltsGulch.xyy> wrote in message

<snip of just the worthless bullshit portions>

See ya "Jane". You are irrelevant.


== 2 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 8:28 am
From: Dewey


"Jane_Galt" <Jane__Galt@GaltsGulch.xyy> wrote in
news:Xns9E52DBD2E1ECJaneGaltthegulchxyz@216.196.97.142:

> Dewey <dewey3kNOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote :
>
>> Ayn Rand's philosophy necessarily negates the existence of community.
>
> Not true, it only says it should be voluntary, instead of like a
> mafia.
>
>> Objectivism is all about the individual. The slightest nod to
>> communal good is intolerable
>
> Again, not true. Voluntary, not forced.
>
The entire idea of community is incompatible with her philosphy of the
individual first and foremost. Objectivism boils down to "each man for
himself." It doesn't matter if she "says" something if that something is
logically inconsistent with the rest of her ideology.


--
"Building a mosque near Ground Zero is like building a church
across the street from the Federal Building in Oklahoma City."

- what you will never hear from a "Ground Zero Mosque" protester


== 3 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 8:31 am
From: Dewey


"Jane_Galt" <Jane__Galt@GaltsGulch.xyy> wrote in
news:Xns9E52DC1B8EFA9JaneGaltthegulchxyz@216.196.97.142:

> "Dano" <janeanddano@yahoo.com> wrote :
>
>>
>> "Jane_Galt" <Jane__Galt@GaltsGulch.xyy> wrote in message
>>>
>>> That should be up to each of us, eh?
>>>
>>
>> Sure. If you would wish to live alone on an island and not as a
>> fully functioning member of society.
>>
>> Humans are social creatures. It's what sets us apart from the rest
>> of the animal world. You can't have a civilization without being
>> sociable to some extent. What is society a root word of? Socialism.
>> We are ALL of us socialists to some degree.
>
> BS.
>
You seem to be incapable of actually refuting anything anyone says.
Yelling "BULLSHIT" is not a logical counterargument. The fact of the
matter is that for the past several million years, mankind and its
ancestors have always, that's *ALWAYS*, formed tribes and other
associations for mutual benefit.

>> I really wish you WOULD find that island.
>
> I wish people like you would immigrate to North Korea and leave us to
> be free.
>
> "Our legislators are not sufficiently apprised of the rightful limits
> of their power: that their true office is to declare and enforce only
> our natural rights and duties and to take none of them from us. No man
> has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of
> another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him;
> every man is under the natural duty of contributing to the necessities
> of the society, and this is all the laws should enforce on him; and,
> no man having a natural right to be the judge between himself and
> another, it is his natural duty to submit to the umpirage of an
> impartial third. When the laws have declared and enforced all this,
> they have fulfilled their functions; and ****the idea is quite
> unfounded that on entering into society we give up any natural right.
> ****" - Thomas Jefferson
>
Sidestep.

--
"Building a mosque near Ground Zero is like building a church
across the street from the Federal Building in Oklahoma City."

- what you will never hear from a "Ground Zero Mosque" protester


== 4 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 8:36 am
From: Dewey


"Jane_Galt" <Jane__Galt@GaltsGulch.xyy> wrote in
news:Xns9E52DC55E3904JaneGaltthegulchxyz@216.196.97.142:

> Dewey <dewey3kNOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote :
>
>> "Dano" <janeanddano@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:ieii31$7ch$1@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>>>
>>> "Jane_Galt" <Jane__Galt@GaltsGulch.xyy> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> That should be up to each of us, eh?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sure. If you would wish to live alone on an island and not as a
>>> fully functioning member of society.
>>>
>>> Humans are social creatures. It's what sets us apart from the rest
>>> of the animal world. You can't have a civilization without being
>>> sociable to some extent. What is society a root word of?
>>> Socialism. We are ALL of us socialists to some degree.
>>>
>>> I really wish you WOULD find that island.
>>>
>> The key part being "to some degree". Objectivism basically precludes
>> any notion of society. That's abundantly clear in Howard Roarke's "I
>> don't give a rat's ass about anyone but myself" attitude.
>>
>
> You dont know what you're talking about.
>
Well there's a stunningly logical and well thought out counter argument.

> All Objectivism says is that relationships between people and society
> should be voluntary.
>
It doesn't. But even if it did, it doesn't matter if that is logically
inconsistent with the rest of the ideology.

> Send me to a gulag for wanting freedom, comrade.
>
Yet another brilliant and well thought argument.

--
"Building a mosque near Ground Zero is like building a church
across the street from the Federal Building in Oklahoma City."

- what you will never hear from a "Ground Zero Mosque" protester


== 5 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 10:18 am
From: "RickyBobby"


"O'Neil's Faggy Prostate - Rommey Beats Obama in Latest Poll!!" wrote in
message
news:f6803e9d-8357-4197-ac0f-42085360eff7@m11g2000vbs.googlegroups.com...

Now that Mitt Rommey leads all challengers in the latest polls, who
else here feels as giddy as I do? Excited about a return to NORMALCY!!
Rommey will FIGHT FOR US, so we can return to:

* Lower taxes
* Elimination of Obamacare (are you listening, Democrats?)
* More employment
* The end of budget deficits
* Lowering of the National Debt (sorry China, we want our country
BACK!)

So everyone please SAVE THE COUNTRY! VOTE ROMMEY IN 2012!!!!

"Can't wait for 2012!!!!"
:D


I was sad to see that the fat cats are only getting an average 20 million
dollar bonus for eliminating American jobs and foreclosing on homeowners.
When Mitt Romney gets elected his supporters can expect their robber baron
bonuses to top 30 million dollars per year.

It would be a shame if President Obama would use his "socialist" policies to
reestablish an actual middle class in America.

I feel that union laborers, first responders, and school teachers are
getting paid far too much under this socialist President Obama. Cut them to
the bone so that the top 2% of Republicans can control 95% of the wealth of
the country instead of the paltry share they control now.

Let the poor learn to live on rice and beans and like it as multimillionaire
cult radio personality Dave Ramsey preaches.

Lower taxes for rich people and lower wages for poor people is the Mitt
Romney platform. And annual bonuses paid to fat cats should be completely
tax free.

Mitt Romney and Dave Ramsey both agree that rich people should not pay
taxes. Dave Ramsey is just a Republican spokesman who preaches rice and
beans for poor people.

== 6 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 10:40 am
From: ray


In article <-8SdnSHjqfb60ZPQnZ2dnUVZ5rGdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox.net> wrote:

> "O'Neil's Faggy Prostate - Rommey Beats Obama in Latest Poll!!" wrote in
> message
> news:f6803e9d-8357-4197-ac0f-42085360eff7@m11g2000vbs.googlegroups.com...
>
> Now that Mitt Rommey leads all challengers in the latest polls, who
> else here feels as giddy as I do? Excited about a return to NORMALCY!!
> Rommey will FIGHT FOR US, so we can return to:
>
> * Lower taxes
> * Elimination of Obamacare (are you listening, Democrats?)
> * More employment
> * The end of budget deficits
> * Lowering of the National Debt (sorry China, we want our country
> BACK!)
>
> So everyone please SAVE THE COUNTRY! VOTE ROMMEY IN 2012!!!!
>
> "Can't wait for 2012!!!!"
> :D
>
>
> I was sad to see that the fat cats are only getting an average 20 million
> dollar bonus for eliminating American jobs and foreclosing on homeowners.
> When Mitt Romney gets elected his supporters can expect their robber baron
> bonuses to top 30 million dollars per year.
>
> It would be a shame if President Obama would use his "socialist" policies to
> reestablish an actual middle class in America.
>
> I feel that union laborers, first responders, and school teachers are
> getting paid far too much under this socialist President Obama. Cut them to
> the bone so that the top 2% of Republicans can control 95% of the wealth of
> the country instead of the paltry share they control now.
>
> Let the poor learn to live on rice and beans and like it as multimillionaire
> cult radio personality Dave Ramsey preaches.
>
> Lower taxes for rich people and lower wages for poor people is the Mitt
> Romney platform. And annual bonuses paid to fat cats should be completely
> tax free.
>
> Mitt Romney and Dave Ramsey both agree that rich people should not pay
> taxes. Dave Ramsey is just a Republican spokesman who preaches rice and
> beans for poor people.

More gloom and doom from the left I see. Well, I guess that's all you
have; scare tactics and lies.

--
Barock Insane Obama: The greatest joke America ever played on itself.


== 7 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 10:51 am
From: NNH@gmail.com


>> "Building a mosque near Ground Zero is like building a church
>> across the street from the Federal Building in Oklahoma City."
One problem with this...........there was a mosque in the WTC
in the South Tower.

One other problems with this.....there was a second mosque in the
WTC in the North Tower.l

Oh and the mosque they want to put in the former Burlington
Coat three blocks from Ground Zero.................there has been
a mosque four blocks from Ground Zero. It was built before the
WTC was built.


>>
>> �- what you will never hear from a "Ground Zero Mosque" protester
>
>One HUGE problem with this post.
>
>McVeigh was anti-government. His "religion" had nothing to do with his
>actions.
>
>Meanwhile, Muslim scum kill, maim and murder because of their
>religion!
>
>Yet this "Dewey" assbag still posts ignorant and moronic shit.
>
>Why do we let autistic idiotic fucktards have access to computers like
>us intelligent people??
>
>Congress needs to pass a law against these ginourmously stewpid
>retards!!
>
>mr dude
>
>
>
>


== 8 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 11:09 am
From: "RickyBobby"


"ray" wrote in message news:ielji30fdq@news5.newsguy.com...

In article <-8SdnSHjqfb60ZPQnZ2dnUVZ5rGdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox.net> wrote:

> "O'Neil's Faggy Prostate - Rommey Beats Obama in Latest Poll!!" wrote in
> message
> news:f6803e9d-8357-4197-ac0f-42085360eff7@m11g2000vbs.googlegroups.com...
>
> Now that Mitt Rommey leads all challengers in the latest polls, who
> else here feels as giddy as I do? Excited about a return to NORMALCY!!
> Rommey will FIGHT FOR US, so we can return to:
>
> * Lower taxes
> * Elimination of Obamacare (are you listening, Democrats?)
> * More employment
> * The end of budget deficits
> * Lowering of the National Debt (sorry China, we want our country
> BACK!)
>
> So everyone please SAVE THE COUNTRY! VOTE ROMMEY IN 2012!!!!
>
> "Can't wait for 2012!!!!"
> :D
>
>
> I was sad to see that the fat cats are only getting an average 20 million
> dollar bonus for eliminating American jobs and foreclosing on homeowners.
> When Mitt Romney gets elected his supporters can expect their robber baron
> bonuses to top 30 million dollars per year.
>
> It would be a shame if President Obama would use his "socialist" policies
> to
> reestablish an actual middle class in America.
>
> I feel that union laborers, first responders, and school teachers are
> getting paid far too much under this socialist President Obama. Cut them
> to
> the bone so that the top 2% of Republicans can control 95% of the wealth
> of
> the country instead of the paltry share they control now.
>
> Let the poor learn to live on rice and beans and like it as
> multimillionaire
> cult radio personality Dave Ramsey preaches.
>
> Lower taxes for rich people and lower wages for poor people is the Mitt
> Romney platform. And annual bonuses paid to fat cats should be completely
> tax free.
>
> Mitt Romney and Dave Ramsey both agree that rich people should not pay
> taxes. Dave Ramsey is just a Republican spokesman who preaches rice and
> beans for poor people.

More gloom and doom from the left I see. Well, I guess that's all you
have; scare tactics and lies.

--

You do not have to believe me. Cult figure Dave Ramsey is on the radio
fifteen hours each week. Just listen to him rail on about rich people like
himself being expected to pay taxes.
He says that he earned all of those tens of millions of dollars per year by
the sweat of his brow and how dare Washington try to steal his money from
him in the form of taxes?

Poor people should man up and wean themselves off of that ground beef and
chicken and learn to live on beans and rice.

Rich people like Dave Ramsey and Matt Romney should have all of the steak
and lobster because they earned it. To heck with paying any taxes on their
immense wealth and income because they want to leave a little legacy to
their family when they pass.

So when the wealthy people pass there should be no estate tax because their
family deserves to be the wealthy and ruling and non-taxpaying class.

That is the Republican platform in a nutshell. The rich get even richer and
the poor get even poorer.


== 9 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 11:55 am
From: Dewey


"Jane_Galt" <Jane__Galt@GaltsGulch.xyy> wrote in
news:Xns9E52DD193C919JaneGaltthegulchxyz@216.196.97.142:

> Dewey <dewey3kNOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote :
>
>> ray <xxxrayted@aol.com> wrote in news:ieidul1srk@news5.newsguy.com:
>>
>>> In article <Xns9E51C7CD17AE2JaneGaltthegulchxyz@216.196.97.142>,
>>> "Jane_Galt" <Jane__Galt@GaltsGulch.xyy> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "O'Neil's Faggy Prostate - Rommey Beats Obama in Latest Poll!!"
>>>> <account_t@rocketmail.com> wrote :
>>>>
>>>> > Now that Mitt Rommey leads all challengers in the latest polls,
>>>> > who else here feels as giddy as I do? Excited about a return to
>>>> > NORMALCY!! Rommey will FIGHT FOR US, so we can return to:
>>>> >
>>>> > * Lower taxes
>>>> > * Elimination of Obamacare (are you listening, Democrats?)
>>>>
>>>> Uh wait, didn't he give ObamaCare to MA before Obama was even
>>>> elected, and bankrupt them with it? Phhtttt!
>>>
>>> Yes. But YourBama is a dumb educated man. He scores a zero when it
>>> comes to common sense. A person with logic would have looked at MA
>>> and said "Gee...... that sure as hell doesn't work." But not
>>> YourBama.
>>>
>> Good point except that it's wrong. RomneyCare actually does work. But
>> maybe you prefer BrewerCare.
>
> http://daytontribune.com/romneycare-is-bankrupting-massachusetts-�-
> obamacare-will-bankrupt-the-country/75912/
>
> Just google: Romneycare and bankrupt
>
Well that's conclusive, isn't it?

Since RomneyCare passed, annual premium increases have shrunk. We used
to get 15-20% bumps each year. Now they are below 10%. Did you expect a
miracle, overnight fix?

Quick answers are the sign of a small mind.


--
"Building a mosque near Ground Zero is like building a church
across the street from the Federal Building in Oklahoma City."

- what you will never hear from a "Ground Zero Mosque" protester


== 10 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 11:58 am
From: Dewey


"mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu" <fosterfla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:39851728-a83e-47d4-9f45-f788379e2e8c@n10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:

> On Dec 18, 1:46�pm, Dewey <dewey3kNOS...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Building a mosque near Ground Zero is like building a church
>> across the street from the Federal Building in Oklahoma City."
>>
>> �- what you will never hear from a "Ground Zero Mosque" protester
>
> One HUGE problem with this post.
>
> McVeigh was anti-government. His "religion" had nothing to do with his
> actions.
>
Untrue. His actions were in direct response to government intervention
with fringe religious sects. You have heard of Branch Davidians, haven't
you?

> Meanwhile, Muslim scum kill, maim and murder because of their
> religion!
>
Again untrue. They murder in contradiction of their religion.

> Yet this "Dewey" assbag still posts ignorant and moronic shit.
>
Name calling and ad hominem attacks. Why am I not surprised.

> Why do we let autistic idiotic fucktards have access to computers like
> us intelligent people??
>
From a person who cannot make a single point of logic, this is amusing.


> Congress needs to pass a law against these ginourmously stewpid
> retards!!
>
Why do you need the Nanny Government to take care of you?


--
"Building a mosque near Ground Zero is like building a church
across the street from the Federal Building in Oklahoma City."

- what you will never hear from a "Ground Zero Mosque" protester


== 11 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 11:59 am
From: Dewey


ray <xxxrayted@aol.com> wrote in news:ielji30fdq@news5.newsguy.com:

> In article <-8SdnSHjqfb60ZPQnZ2dnUVZ5rGdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> "RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> "O'Neil's Faggy Prostate - Rommey Beats Obama in Latest Poll!!"
>> wrote in message
>> news:f6803e9d-8357-4197-ac0f-42085360eff7
@m11g2000vbs.googlegroups.com
>> ...
>>
>> Now that Mitt Rommey leads all challengers in the latest polls, who
>> else here feels as giddy as I do? Excited about a return to
>> NORMALCY!! Rommey will FIGHT FOR US, so we can return to:
>>
>> * Lower taxes
>> * Elimination of Obamacare (are you listening, Democrats?)
>> * More employment
>> * The end of budget deficits
>> * Lowering of the National Debt (sorry China, we want our country
>> BACK!)
>>
>> So everyone please SAVE THE COUNTRY! VOTE ROMMEY IN 2012!!!!
>>
>> "Can't wait for 2012!!!!"
>> :D
>>
>>
>> I was sad to see that the fat cats are only getting an average 20
>> million dollar bonus for eliminating American jobs and foreclosing on
>> homeowners. When Mitt Romney gets elected his supporters can expect
>> their robber baron bonuses to top 30 million dollars per year.
>>
>> It would be a shame if President Obama would use his "socialist"
>> policies to reestablish an actual middle class in America.
>>
>> I feel that union laborers, first responders, and school teachers are
>> getting paid far too much under this socialist President Obama. Cut
>> them to the bone so that the top 2% of Republicans can control 95% of
>> the wealth of the country instead of the paltry share they control
>> now.
>>
>> Let the poor learn to live on rice and beans and like it as
>> multimillionaire cult radio personality Dave Ramsey preaches.
>>
>> Lower taxes for rich people and lower wages for poor people is the
>> Mitt Romney platform. And annual bonuses paid to fat cats should be
>> completely tax free.
>>
>> Mitt Romney and Dave Ramsey both agree that rich people should not
>> pay taxes. Dave Ramsey is just a Republican spokesman who preaches
>> rice and beans for poor people.
>
> More gloom and doom from the left I see. Well, I guess that's all you
> have; scare tactics and lies.
>

WMD
WMD
WMD
WMD

--
"Building a mosque near Ground Zero is like building a church
across the street from the Federal Building in Oklahoma City."

- what you will never hear from a "Ground Zero Mosque" protester


== 12 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 12:34 pm
From: "RickyBobby"


"Dewey" wrote in message
news:Xns9E53987C3E73Adewey3kNOSPAMgmailco@130.133.4.11...

ray <xxxrayted@aol.com> wrote in news:ielji30fdq@news5.newsguy.com:

> In article <-8SdnSHjqfb60ZPQnZ2dnUVZ5rGdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> "RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> "O'Neil's Faggy Prostate - Rommey Beats Obama in Latest Poll!!"
>> wrote in message
>> news:f6803e9d-8357-4197-ac0f-42085360eff7
@m11g2000vbs.googlegroups.com
>> ...
>>
>> Now that Mitt Rommey leads all challengers in the latest polls, who
>> else here feels as giddy as I do? Excited about a return to
>> NORMALCY!! Rommey will FIGHT FOR US, so we can return to:
>>
>> * Lower taxes
>> * Elimination of Obamacare (are you listening, Democrats?)
>> * More employment
>> * The end of budget deficits
>> * Lowering of the National Debt (sorry China, we want our country
>> BACK!)
>>
>> So everyone please SAVE THE COUNTRY! VOTE ROMMEY IN 2012!!!!
>>
>> "Can't wait for 2012!!!!"
>> :D
>>
>>
>> I was sad to see that the fat cats are only getting an average 20
>> million dollar bonus for eliminating American jobs and foreclosing on
>> homeowners. When Mitt Romney gets elected his supporters can expect
>> their robber baron bonuses to top 30 million dollars per year.
>>
>> It would be a shame if President Obama would use his "socialist"
>> policies to reestablish an actual middle class in America.
>>
>> I feel that union laborers, first responders, and school teachers are
>> getting paid far too much under this socialist President Obama. Cut
>> them to the bone so that the top 2% of Republicans can control 95% of
>> the wealth of the country instead of the paltry share they control
>> now.
>>
>> Let the poor learn to live on rice and beans and like it as
>> multimillionaire cult radio personality Dave Ramsey preaches.
>>
>> Lower taxes for rich people and lower wages for poor people is the
>> Mitt Romney platform. And annual bonuses paid to fat cats should be
>> completely tax free.
>>
>> Mitt Romney and Dave Ramsey both agree that rich people should not
>> pay taxes. Dave Ramsey is just a Republican spokesman who preaches
>> rice and beans for poor people.
>
> More gloom and doom from the left I see. Well, I guess that's all you
> have; scare tactics and lies.
>

WMD
WMD
WMD
WMD

--
"Building a mosque near Ground Zero is like building a church
across the street from the Federal Building in Oklahoma City."

- what you will never hear from a "Ground Zero Mosque" protester


You are not supposed to bring up WMD because that is supposed to be
forgotten by now. Bush/Cheney/Halliburton made at least 383 billion
dollars off of that imaginary war and still counting. Those three thousand
gap toothed mouthing breathing low class kids who died over there were just
cannon fodder for the big money machine.

Any rich Republicans died in Iraq recently? I very much doubt it. Were
there ever any WMD? I very much doubt it.

Facts are just facts and no more and no less.

The people who chose to attack America on 9/11/2001 were Saudi Arabians.
Not Iraqis and not Afghanis.

People are pissed off that Barack Obama is our President? Good. Let them
be pissed off. Maybe he is not so deeply enmeshed in the don't know, don't
tell to actually tell us the truth.

My suggestion is that on 1/11/2011 everybody put everything on the table.

UN, Europe, Russia, UAE, NATO, Australia, Brazil, and so on and so on.

On 1/11/2011 just have a big old meeting and bitchfest and everybody lay
their cards down on the table.

And put it on television.

There is no need for people in North Korea to go to be hungry. No need at
all. There is no need for people is Haiti to be helpless. No need at all.
There is no need for people in Chechnya to feel misunderstood. No need at
all. There is no need for people in Indonesia to toil in factories for
pitiful low wages. No need at all. There is no need for a broad swath of
Africa to always be on the desperate edge of survival.

We can move food. We can even move water. We can move medicine and doctors
and nurses. We can move vaccines. We can move sleeping nets.

What we cannot move is honesty and decency.

Honesty and decency have to come from within.

Canada, the USA, and Mexico are just one big happy family. There is utmost
honesty and decency in Canada. There is somewhat less honesty and decency
in the money-grubbing USA. There is no honesty and decency in criminal
Mexico. So how do you resolve this or at least balance it out a little bit?

I purely do not know. If I knew they would give me the Nobel Prize. I
ain't no Gandhi or Mother Teresa but if I did know I would get to work on
these issues.


== 13 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 3:17 pm
From: ray


In article <4LadncDkWNfqxZPQnZ2dnUVZ5t-dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox.net> wrote:

> > Lower taxes for rich people and lower wages for poor people is the Mitt
> > Romney platform. And annual bonuses paid to fat cats should be completely
> > tax free.
> >
> > Mitt Romney and Dave Ramsey both agree that rich people should not pay
> > taxes. Dave Ramsey is just a Republican spokesman who preaches rice and
> > beans for poor people.
>
> More gloom and doom from the left I see. Well, I guess that's all you
> have; scare tactics and lies.
>
> --
>
> You do not have to believe me. Cult figure Dave Ramsey is on the radio
> fifteen hours each week. Just listen to him rail on about rich people like
> himself being expected to pay taxes.
> He says that he earned all of those tens of millions of dollars per year by
> the sweat of his brow and how dare Washington try to steal his money from
> him in the form of taxes?
>
> Poor people should man up and wean themselves off of that ground beef and
> chicken and learn to live on beans and rice.
>
> Rich people like Dave Ramsey and Matt Romney should have all of the steak
> and lobster because they earned it. To heck with paying any taxes on their
> immense wealth and income because they want to leave a little legacy to
> their family when they pass.
>
> So when the wealthy people pass there should be no estate tax because their
> family deserves to be the wealthy and ruling and non-taxpaying class.
>
> That is the Republican platform in a nutshell. The rich get even richer and
> the poor get even poorer.

You don't understand the conservative Republican platform.

Conservatives believe that all be treated the exact same way. What a
man makes is rightfully his. Nobody should have their hands in your
pockets, and nobody should be feeding you their money.

We are fortunate enough to live in a country where the individual makes
choices on how they live. If you want to be poor, don't work and be
poor. If you want to be middle class, learn a trade and be middle
class. If you want to live upper middle class, then go to college or
start your own business and be upper middle class.

The problem with the estate tax is that it's money that was already
taxed. What's fair about taxing it twice? It's a real socialist
attitude that leads to the belief that when a man worked hard all of his
life and passes away, the government has more rights to his labor than
his own family.

If you believe in the concept of taking from one because he has it to
take, and give it to another who has less, why stop there?

When a person has a beautiful landscaped yard with dozens of hedges and
flowers, why not have the government take some of his hedges and flowers
and give it to a person with none in his yard? If a man has three big
screen televisions in his home, why not have government take two of
those televisions and give them to somebody that only has a 19 inch
television or none at all? Maybe somebody likes to collect classic
guitars. The government should come in and take a few of his guitars
and give them to somebody that has no guitar but wants one.

If you think this plan is ridiculous, then why is it not ridiculous when
we are talking about money? Money is property no different than cars,
televisions or a stamp collection.

--
Barock Insane Obama: The greatest joke America ever played on itself.


== 14 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 4:30 pm
From: "RickyBobby"


"ray" wrote in message news:iem3qb0uva@news5.newsguy.com...

In article <4LadncDkWNfqxZPQnZ2dnUVZ5t-dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox.net> wrote:

> > Lower taxes for rich people and lower wages for poor people is the Mitt
> > Romney platform. And annual bonuses paid to fat cats should be
> > completely
> > tax free.
> >
> > Mitt Romney and Dave Ramsey both agree that rich people should not pay
> > taxes. Dave Ramsey is just a Republican spokesman who preaches rice and
> > beans for poor people.
>
> More gloom and doom from the left I see. Well, I guess that's all you
> have; scare tactics and lies.
>
> --
>
> You do not have to believe me. Cult figure Dave Ramsey is on the radio
> fifteen hours each week. Just listen to him rail on about rich people
> like
> himself being expected to pay taxes.
> He says that he earned all of those tens of millions of dollars per year
> by
> the sweat of his brow and how dare Washington try to steal his money from
> him in the form of taxes?
>
> Poor people should man up and wean themselves off of that ground beef and
> chicken and learn to live on beans and rice.
>
> Rich people like Dave Ramsey and Matt Romney should have all of the steak
> and lobster because they earned it. To heck with paying any taxes on
> their
> immense wealth and income because they want to leave a little legacy to
> their family when they pass.
>
> So when the wealthy people pass there should be no estate tax because
> their
> family deserves to be the wealthy and ruling and non-taxpaying class.
>
> That is the Republican platform in a nutshell. The rich get even richer
> and
> the poor get even poorer.

You don't understand the conservative Republican platform.

Conservatives believe that all be treated the exact same way. What a
man makes is rightfully his. Nobody should have their hands in your
pockets, and nobody should be feeding you their money.

We are fortunate enough to live in a country where the individual makes
choices on how they live. If you want to be poor, don't work and be
poor. If you want to be middle class, learn a trade and be middle
class. If you want to live upper middle class, then go to college or
start your own business and be upper middle class.

The problem with the estate tax is that it's money that was already
taxed. What's fair about taxing it twice? It's a real socialist
attitude that leads to the belief that when a man worked hard all of his
life and passes away, the government has more rights to his labor than
his own family.

If you believe in the concept of taking from one because he has it to
take, and give it to another who has less, why stop there?

When a person has a beautiful landscaped yard with dozens of hedges and
flowers, why not have the government take some of his hedges and flowers
and give it to a person with none in his yard? If a man has three big
screen televisions in his home, why not have government take two of
those televisions and give them to somebody that only has a 19 inch
television or none at all? Maybe somebody likes to collect classic
guitars. The government should come in and take a few of his guitars
and give them to somebody that has no guitar but wants one.

If you think this plan is ridiculous, then why is it not ridiculous when
we are talking about money? Money is property no different than cars,
televisions or a stamp collection.

--
Barock Insane Obama: The greatest joke America ever played on itself.

So the bankers do not have their hands in the pocket of the working man?

So the bankers do not entice the working man or woman to buy things they
cannot afford on terms?

So the real estate dealers and the car dealers and the stores do not sell
things to people who cannot afford them?

So it is just a coincidence that every pawn shop and payday loan stores and
lottery outlet is in a poor neighborhood?

You evil rich people know what you are doing to people yet you do it anyhow.

I wish that you would all choke on your ill gotten money and die.


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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 3:21 am
From: "DogDiesel"

"Eric Holder, Anti-White Racist In Extremis" <HolderEatsShit@DOJ.gov> wrote
in message news:4d0d8165.274621687@news.eternal-september.org...
> On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 22:48:31 -0500, "Ray O'Hara"
> <raymond-ohara@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Alfred Stomacker" <alfredstomacker@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:klgqg6t1954rn0lh46ns6hek0e2o4f752b@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 22:56:09 GMT, MusicSoothes@SavageBeast. (Evil Eric
>>> Holder, Black Racist Extraordinaire) wrote:
>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 14:31:29 -0500, TRUE <W0RD@N0G.0RG> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I had tickets to a Patriot's Game and couldn't attend. I made a 1-day
>>>>>>eBay listing and clearly stated that the tickets must be picked up in
>>>>>>person within 24 hours (the game was the evening after the auction
>>>>>>ended, so there wasn't any time to ship the tickets). A woman won the
>>>>>>auction for about $600. The auction had ended at 10:00 am and by 5:00
>>>>>>pm she still hadn't responded to my emails trying to organize the
>>>>>>exchange. Finally, at 9:30 pm, I got a one-liner email: "I overbid and
>>>>>>my boyfriend won't let me buy these. Sorry, enjoy the game! :)"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I first tried explaining that I wouldn't have the time to resell the
>>>>>>tickets (I already got turned down by the losing bidders). She said,
>>>>>>"Tough shit... that's not my problem. It's eBay, not a car dealership.
>>>>>>I can back out if I want." I still don't understand the car dealership
>>>>>>reference. I was pretty upset. I was basically going to be stuck with
>>>>>>tickets to an event that I couldn't attend. That's when I got the idea
>>>>>>to convince her to change her mind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I created a new eBay account, "Payback" we'll call it, and sent her a
>>>>>>message: "Hi there, I noticed you won an auction for 4 Patriots
>>>>>>tickets. I meant to bid on these but couldn't get to my computer in
>>>>>>time. I wanted to take my son and dad and would be willing to give you
>>>>>>$1,000 for the tickets. I imagine that you've already made plans to
>>>>>>attend, but I figured it was worth a shot."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At 11:30 pm she responded to Payback: "I'll do it for $1,100, no less.
>>>>>>I can meet you at the game if you agree. I need your phone number." At
>>>>>>11:35 pm, Payback wrote: "Deal. Here is my number..." (Thanks Google
>>>>>>Voice for the throwaway number). She called a few minutes later and
>>>>>>made Payback "promise" to go through with the deal. She emphasized
>>>>>>that she'd be out a lot of money if Payback backed out. Payback swore
>>>>>>he would never do such a thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At 11:45 pm, the woman emailed me: "Fine. I'll buy them. But you have
>>>>>>to drop them off at my house tonight. I'll have the cash ready." So at
>>>>>>midnight I drove to her house across town and met her on the road in
>>>>>>front of her apartment building. She was a typical nasty and rude
>>>>>>niggeress. Things didn't get any better when I told her I wanted an
>>>>>>extra $20 for the trouble of driving there at midnight (yeah, pushing
>>>>>>my luck, I know). It became very awkward and she literally threw 31
>>>>>>$20 bills at me. I counted them before handing over the tickets. I
>>>>>>said, "Thanks for the great transaction" as she flipped me off while
>>>>>>walking away.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At 10:00am she called Payback to make sure they were still on for the
>>>>>>sale. Payback said that he could no longer go to the game and wouldn't
>>>>>>do the exchange. She blew her top and I swear to God started speaking
>>>>>>in tongues. Payback said, "Ma'am, this is eBay, not a Car Dealership!"
>>>>>>and hung up. I got a rabid email 10 minutes later telling me that I
>>>>>>was going to hell and that she's reported me to the local police, FBI,
>>>>>>and... the fire department. WTF? I never heard another word from her.
>>>>>>I have no idea if she went to the game or not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Rabid Email
>>>>>>"Fuxking funny fucker! You know you can go to JAIL for this. YOu
>>>>>>theef!!!!! Cops FBI, fire and government already no. Your done. I got
>>>>>>your number and your name. This is thefting property FUCKER!!! Give my
>>>>>>$620 back or everything bad wiil happen - FUCK!!!!! You cant steal and
>>>>>>get away. Refund me now or else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You dpnt want a
>>>>>>lawsuit. Trust me. u dont. You can have tickets jut give me my money
>>>>>>and be done."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That's the bulk of the email, word for word. There was more at the
>>>>>>end. She must have pressed 'enter' 30 times and wrote "FUCK" and
>>>>>>another 30 times wrote "HELL". Then she wrote her name which was
>>>>>>Kwaneeta King.
>>>>>
>>>>>LOL
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> good one ! You should also sue her since she made a legal agreement to
>>> buy . She can not prove you sold her the tickets and would therefore
>>> lose the case . Get paid twice . The chimpette deserves it .
>>
>>
>> this story in various forms has been running the net.
>>besides showing yourselves as racist scum.
>>you are committing fraud.
>>setting up a fake id to get someone to buy something is a felony.
>>so you'd go to jail for a crime and get a nasty black mark on your
>>permanent
>>record.
>>but I'm sure it made you feel all giddy and white to right words like
>>nigger
>>while hiding behind a fake nym.
>>p.s. everybody can be traced.
>>
>>
> Hey white nigger, trace this:
>
> In its last complete National Criminal Victimization Survey , the
> Justice Department revealed blacks to have committed 1,600,951 violent
> crimes against whites. Only 15 percent of these had robbery as a
> motive. We can safely infer that most of the rest had race as at least
> a partial motive. Eighty-five percent of the attacks were assaults and
> rapes. While blacks were committing these 1.6 million crimes against
> whites, whites were reciprocating with 165,345 violent offenses
> against blacks. Blacks, representing thirteen percent of the nation,
> committed more than 90 percent of the violent interracial crime.
> Fifty-seven percent of the violent crime committed by blacks had white
> victims. Less than 3 percent of violence committed by whites had black
> victims. A black was 64 times more likely to attack a white than vice
> versa. This is the real story of hate in America. It is the media's
> well-kept secret.

Niggers call each other niggers all day long. Get used to it.
Of course it is a secret. . You cant overthrow America without
spearchuckers , and illegals. And white hating .


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 9:02 am
From: Alfred Stomacker


On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 22:48:31 -0500, "Ray O'Hara"
<raymond-ohara@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>
>>"Alfred Stomacker" <alfredstomacker@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:klgqg6t1954rn0lh46ns6hek0e2o4f752b@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 22:56:09 GMT, MusicSoothes@SavageBeast. (Evil Eric
>>> Holder, Black Racist Extraordinaire) wrote:
>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 14:31:29 -0500, TRUE <W0RD@N0G.0RG> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I had tickets to a Patriot's Game and couldn't attend. I made a 1-day
>>>>>>eBay listing and clearly stated that the tickets must be picked up in
>>>>>>person within 24 hours (the game was the evening after the auction
>>>>>>ended, so there wasn't any time to ship the tickets). A woman won the
>>>>>>auction for about $600. The auction had ended at 10:00 am and by 5:00
>>>>>>pm she still hadn't responded to my emails trying to organize the
>>>>>>exchange. Finally, at 9:30 pm, I got a one-liner email: "I overbid and
>>>>>>my boyfriend won't let me buy these. Sorry, enjoy the game! :)"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I first tried explaining that I wouldn't have the time to resell the
>>>>>>tickets (I already got turned down by the losing bidders). She said,
>>>>>>"Tough shit... that's not my problem. It's eBay, not a car dealership.
>>>>>>I can back out if I want." I still don't understand the car dealership
>>>>>>reference. I was pretty upset. I was basically going to be stuck with
>>>>>>tickets to an event that I couldn't attend. That's when I got the idea
>>>>>>to convince her to change her mind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I created a new eBay account, "Payback" we'll call it, and sent her a
>>>>>>message: "Hi there, I noticed you won an auction for 4 Patriots
>>>>>>tickets. I meant to bid on these but couldn't get to my computer in
>>>>>>time. I wanted to take my son and dad and would be willing to give you
>>>>>>$1,000 for the tickets. I imagine that you've already made plans to
>>>>>>attend, but I figured it was worth a shot."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At 11:30 pm she responded to Payback: "I'll do it for $1,100, no less.
>>>>>>I can meet you at the game if you agree. I need your phone number." At
>>>>>>11:35 pm, Payback wrote: "Deal. Here is my number..." (Thanks Google
>>>>>>Voice for the throwaway number). She called a few minutes later and
>>>>>>made Payback "promise" to go through with the deal. She emphasized
>>>>>>that she'd be out a lot of money if Payback backed out. Payback swore
>>>>>>he would never do such a thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At 11:45 pm, the woman emailed me: "Fine. I'll buy them. But you have
>>>>>>to drop them off at my house tonight. I'll have the cash ready." So at
>>>>>>midnight I drove to her house across town and met her on the road in
>>>>>>front of her apartment building. She was a typical nasty and rude
>>>>>>niggeress. Things didn't get any better when I told her I wanted an
>>>>>>extra $20 for the trouble of driving there at midnight (yeah, pushing
>>>>>>my luck, I know). It became very awkward and she literally threw 31
>>>>>>$20 bills at me. I counted them before handing over the tickets. I
>>>>>>said, "Thanks for the great transaction" as she flipped me off while
>>>>>>walking away.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At 10:00am she called Payback to make sure they were still on for the
>>>>>>sale. Payback said that he could no longer go to the game and wouldn't
>>>>>>do the exchange. She blew her top and I swear to God started speaking
>>>>>>in tongues. Payback said, "Ma'am, this is eBay, not a Car Dealership!"
>>>>>>and hung up. I got a rabid email 10 minutes later telling me that I
>>>>>>was going to hell and that she's reported me to the local police, FBI,
>>>>>>and... the fire department. WTF? I never heard another word from her.
>>>>>>I have no idea if she went to the game or not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Rabid Email
>>>>>>"Fuxking funny fucker! You know you can go to JAIL for this. YOu
>>>>>>theef!!!!! Cops FBI, fire and government already no. Your done. I got
>>>>>>your number and your name. This is thefting property FUCKER!!! Give my
>>>>>>$620 back or everything bad wiil happen - FUCK!!!!! You cant steal and
>>>>>>get away. Refund me now or else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You dpnt want a
>>>>>>lawsuit. Trust me. u dont. You can have tickets jut give me my money
>>>>>>and be done."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That's the bulk of the email, word for word. There was more at the
>>>>>>end. She must have pressed 'enter' 30 times and wrote "FUCK" and
>>>>>>another 30 times wrote "HELL". Then she wrote her name which was
>>>>>>Kwaneeta King.
>>>>>
>>>>>LOL
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> good one ! You should also sue her since she made a legal agreement to
>>> buy . She can not prove you sold her the tickets and would therefore
>>> lose the case . Get paid twice . The chimpette deserves it .
>>
>>
>> this story in various forms has been running the net.
>>besides showing yourselves as racist scum.
>>you are committing fraud.
>>setting up a fake id to get someone to buy something is a felony.
>>so you'd go to jail for a crime and get a nasty black mark on your permanent
>>record.
>>but I'm sure it made you feel all giddy and white to right words like nigger
>>while hiding behind a fake nym.
>>p.s. everybody can be traced.
>>
Stop crying nigger . No one gives a shit about niggers except other
niggers and liberals .


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 9:04 am
From: Alfred Stomacker


On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 03:52:52 GMT, HolderEatsShit@DOJ.gov (Eric Holder,
Anti-White Racist In Extremis) wrote:

>>On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 22:48:31 -0500, "Ray O'Hara"
>><raymond-ohara@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Alfred Stomacker" <alfredstomacker@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:klgqg6t1954rn0lh46ns6hek0e2o4f752b@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 22:56:09 GMT, MusicSoothes@SavageBeast. (Evil Eric
>>>> Holder, Black Racist Extraordinaire) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 14:31:29 -0500, TRUE <W0RD@N0G.0RG> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I had tickets to a Patriot's Game and couldn't attend. I made a 1-day
>>>>>>>eBay listing and clearly stated that the tickets must be picked up in
>>>>>>>person within 24 hours (the game was the evening after the auction
>>>>>>>ended, so there wasn't any time to ship the tickets). A woman won the
>>>>>>>auction for about $600. The auction had ended at 10:00 am and by 5:00
>>>>>>>pm she still hadn't responded to my emails trying to organize the
>>>>>>>exchange. Finally, at 9:30 pm, I got a one-liner email: "I overbid and
>>>>>>>my boyfriend won't let me buy these. Sorry, enjoy the game! :)"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I first tried explaining that I wouldn't have the time to resell the
>>>>>>>tickets (I already got turned down by the losing bidders). She said,
>>>>>>>"Tough shit... that's not my problem. It's eBay, not a car dealership.
>>>>>>>I can back out if I want." I still don't understand the car dealership
>>>>>>>reference. I was pretty upset. I was basically going to be stuck with
>>>>>>>tickets to an event that I couldn't attend. That's when I got the idea
>>>>>>>to convince her to change her mind.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I created a new eBay account, "Payback" we'll call it, and sent her a
>>>>>>>message: "Hi there, I noticed you won an auction for 4 Patriots
>>>>>>>tickets. I meant to bid on these but couldn't get to my computer in
>>>>>>>time. I wanted to take my son and dad and would be willing to give you
>>>>>>>$1,000 for the tickets. I imagine that you've already made plans to
>>>>>>>attend, but I figured it was worth a shot."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>At 11:30 pm she responded to Payback: "I'll do it for $1,100, no less.
>>>>>>>I can meet you at the game if you agree. I need your phone number." At
>>>>>>>11:35 pm, Payback wrote: "Deal. Here is my number..." (Thanks Google
>>>>>>>Voice for the throwaway number). She called a few minutes later and
>>>>>>>made Payback "promise" to go through with the deal. She emphasized
>>>>>>>that she'd be out a lot of money if Payback backed out. Payback swore
>>>>>>>he would never do such a thing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>At 11:45 pm, the woman emailed me: "Fine. I'll buy them. But you have
>>>>>>>to drop them off at my house tonight. I'll have the cash ready." So at
>>>>>>>midnight I drove to her house across town and met her on the road in
>>>>>>>front of her apartment building. She was a typical nasty and rude
>>>>>>>niggeress. Things didn't get any better when I told her I wanted an
>>>>>>>extra $20 for the trouble of driving there at midnight (yeah, pushing
>>>>>>>my luck, I know). It became very awkward and she literally threw 31
>>>>>>>$20 bills at me. I counted them before handing over the tickets. I
>>>>>>>said, "Thanks for the great transaction" as she flipped me off while
>>>>>>>walking away.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>At 10:00am she called Payback to make sure they were still on for the
>>>>>>>sale. Payback said that he could no longer go to the game and wouldn't
>>>>>>>do the exchange. She blew her top and I swear to God started speaking
>>>>>>>in tongues. Payback said, "Ma'am, this is eBay, not a Car Dealership!"
>>>>>>>and hung up. I got a rabid email 10 minutes later telling me that I
>>>>>>>was going to hell and that she's reported me to the local police, FBI,
>>>>>>>and... the fire department. WTF? I never heard another word from her.
>>>>>>>I have no idea if she went to the game or not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Rabid Email
>>>>>>>"Fuxking funny fucker! You know you can go to JAIL for this. YOu
>>>>>>>theef!!!!! Cops FBI, fire and government already no. Your done. I got
>>>>>>>your number and your name. This is thefting property FUCKER!!! Give my
>>>>>>>$620 back or everything bad wiil happen - FUCK!!!!! You cant steal and
>>>>>>>get away. Refund me now or else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You dpnt want a
>>>>>>>lawsuit. Trust me. u dont. You can have tickets jut give me my money
>>>>>>>and be done."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>That's the bulk of the email, word for word. There was more at the
>>>>>>>end. She must have pressed 'enter' 30 times and wrote "FUCK" and
>>>>>>>another 30 times wrote "HELL". Then she wrote her name which was
>>>>>>>Kwaneeta King.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>LOL
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> good one ! You should also sue her since she made a legal agreement to
>>>> buy . She can not prove you sold her the tickets and would therefore
>>>> lose the case . Get paid twice . The chimpette deserves it .
>>>
>>>
>>> this story in various forms has been running the net.
>>>besides showing yourselves as racist scum.
>>>you are committing fraud.
>>>setting up a fake id to get someone to buy something is a felony.
>>>so you'd go to jail for a crime and get a nasty black mark on your permanent
>>>record.
>>>but I'm sure it made you feel all giddy and white to right words like nigger
>>>while hiding behind a fake nym.
>>>p.s. everybody can be traced.
>>>
>>>
>>Hey white nigger, trace this:
>>
>>In its last complete National Criminal Victimization Survey , the
>>Justice Department revealed blacks to have committed 1,600,951 violent
>>crimes against whites. Only 15 percent of these had robbery as a
>>motive. We can safely infer that most of the rest had race as at least
>>a partial motive. Eighty-five percent of the attacks were assaults and
>>rapes. While blacks were committing these 1.6 million crimes against
>>whites, whites were reciprocating with 165,345 violent offenses
>>against blacks. Blacks, representing thirteen percent of the nation,
>>committed more than 90 percent of the violent interracial crime.
>>Fifty-seven percent of the violent crime committed by blacks had white
>>victims. Less than 3 percent of violence committed by whites had black
>>victims. A black was 64 times more likely to attack a white than vice
>>versa. This is the real story of hate in America. It is the media's
>>well-kept secret.
Like I always say " blacks are the most racist and violent , people ?
, on earth "

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TOPIC: We Had To Do What He Said, He Might Cut Us
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ne-patriots/t/e2edd457fec7b7cd?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 7:01 am
From: "Ray O'Hara"

"Fred Fredburger" <FredFredFred@Where.Are.The.Nachos> wrote in message
news:4d0b215b@news.x-privat.org...
> On 12/16/2010 10:53 AM, Dano wrote:
>>
>> "J Lunis" <jay.lunis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:4d0a42d1$0$21663$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net...
>>> On 12/16/2010 9:43 AM, Dano wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Tutor" <dcat4434@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:fc9fbeeb-8c27-4650-af13-4313c0f1f7bb@o4g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> On Dec 16, 1:44 am, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "Tutor" <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>
>>>>>> news:6599eefa-1e69-498f-bce7-5d61d669c53d@z9g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 15, 8:39 pm, Rotalius Jephersun <RR...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2010/12/jets_players_say_strength_co...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Does anyone, ANYONE, believe for one second that the coaching
>>>>>> > staff didn't have something to do with this? Oh yeah, the players
>>>>>> > take orders on the sideline from the CONDITIONING coach.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Duh.. of course not. Alosi is taking the fall for the Wall. It
>>>>>> would either be Westhoff or Rex.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Westhoff is the Specials guy so it would be him I think of first.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it was Alosi sticking his knee out that is the problem.
>>>>>> if thew Fish had just run into him there is no issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alosi made the trip but I'll bet Westy built the wall. Of course,
>>>>> Alosi takes the fall.
>>>>>
>>>>> Once again, the culture of this team under Rex Ryan is a bit
>>>>> alarming. And I like Rex, but there is cause for concern about what
>>>>> is happening in Florham Park.
>>>>
>>>> I think there is also a problem of "gunners" deliberately running down
>>>> the sidelines that many of us haven't realized is a real issue. The
>>>> league might want to consider cracking down on this practice. I for
>>>> one,
>>>> hadn't realized how prevalent the practice is. I always thought it was
>>>> a
>>>> fairly innocent mistake where a guy would accidently take a step or two
>>>> out of bounds. That's how na�ve I was. Now I've learned it's so common
>>>> that teams are actually devising strategies like this to combat it.
>>>> It's
>>>> akin to vigilantism...if you don't provide a legal remedy...players and
>>>> teams will take matters into their own hands. This isn't a friendly
>>>> game
>>>> of touch. When that gunner reaches the runner unblocked because he was
>>>> out of bounds, he's not going to just "touch him up". He's going to try
>>>> to rip his freaking head off.
>>>>
>>>> Far be it for me to defend Rex the Wondercoach or his staff...but I'll
>>>> bet other teams do this (building a wall anyway) too. If it's within
>>>> the
>>>> rules...and it's undesirable...fix it. Provide a harsh penalty. But
>>>> address the reason it's done as well. And NO...I'm not defending Alosi
>>>> going the one (inevitable I think) step beyond either. He was wrong. He
>>>> has been sternly punished. But at least the cause has been exposed. It
>>>> could be pretty easily addressed really. Back the guys off the sideline
>>>> by rule...punishable by penalty...even ejection if repeated offenses
>>>> make it necessary. But also tighten the rule on gunners
>>>> DELIBERATELY...and that's key...hiding by running out of bounds down
>>>> the
>>>> sideline. It's one thing if a guy is blocked out of bounds. But it
>>>> ought
>>>> to be obvious if that's the case or not. Repeat offenders could be
>>>> ejected if it came to that.
>>>>
>>>> I give credit to Matt Chatham explaining this pretty clearly.
>>>>
>>>> http://itiswhatitis.weei.com/sports/newengland/football/patriots/2010/12/15/an-unfortunate-situation-has-led-to-some-unwarranted-opinions/#comments
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> prevalent? I'm not sure how prevalent that behavior is but I'll be
>>> surprised if it is 'common.' If it is 'prevalent' in the league to let
>>> the blockers knowingly push the gunner into harms way, the whole NFL
>>> is disgusting.
>>> Assigning a low-level NFL employee (or the task can be done by a
>>> sports writer to watch only ST plays in all games for only the last 7
>>> days should answer the 'prevalent' question. But what do I know.
>>
>> What? Are the big words causing confusion? If you prefer
>> commonplace...fine. I think you will find this is not uncommon. The
>> point is, I think it's a lousy thing to do by the gunner...now read
>> carefully...I can see that's not your strong suit...if he runs down the
>> sideline, out of bounds (where he may not be blocked), DELIBERATELY.
>> That is just as surely "cheating" as forming a wall too close to the
>> field of play. Of course tripping a player is totally indefensible. I
>> have heard or read no one defending THAT.
>
> The Matt Chatham article you linked to quite clearly DOES defend Alosi's
> actions. It says a lot of other things, but minimalizing and justifying
> tripping is in there as well. It's good to learn that you didn't agree
> with that part of the article.


Alosi was there because he was told to be there.
he is only to blame for the trip.
otherwise nothing was his idea.

take the header, only Rex can cut people.
he is the real cheater.

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TOPIC: Replay 3rd down
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ne-patriots/t/ca59a7f03e6633c2?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 10:31 am
From: cloud dreamer


The refs are not on Indy's side today...


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 12:46 pm
From: "Ray O'Hara"

"cloud dreamer" <dont.attack@the.messenger> wrote in message
news:tdOdnTjweecL0pPQnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@supernews.com...
> The refs are not on Indy's side today...

I wanted to see that play too.

also the announcers are most definately rooting for the Dolts.


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 1:21 pm
From: cloud dreamer


On 19/12/2010 5:16 PM, Ray O'Hara wrote:
> "cloud dreamer"<dont.attack@the.messenger> wrote in message
> news:tdOdnTjweecL0pPQnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@supernews.com...
>> The refs are not on Indy's side today...
>
> I wanted to see that play too.
>
> also the announcers are most definately rooting for the Dolts.
>
>

But they pulled a W out of their ass. Pretty sluggish one though.

Nice end to the Giants game.

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TOPIC: I Invented A New Word - "Redrunkulous"!
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 12:04 pm
From: HVAC


On 12/18/2010 4:54 PM, mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu wrote:
> Redrunkulous. It means ridiculously drunk.
>
> Usages:
>
> I got so redrunkulous last night I banged your Mom.
>
> Your Mom was redrunkulously wasted last night, she gave everybody a
> blow job.
>
> Your Mom was so redrunkolous that she couldn't see straight.
>
> Use this word as often as you can in everyday conversation. I want to
> see it added to the dictionary by 2011.
>
> thanks, mr dude


That word is so fetch !

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TOPIC: OT Congress
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ne-patriots/t/397fc30bf902795c?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 3:26 pm
From: BG@yahoo.com


I see where the republicans are complaining that Reid is "Anti
Christmas" because they have to work on the days before and
after christmas.

i work in the real world and i have to work Monday thru Thursday
this week (may or may not get out early on Thursday),
I also have to work Monday - Thursday the folliowing week.
i see no reason why our legislators can't work many of these days
leading up to Christmas.

Last time I looked at the calendar Christmas was on the 25th,
Christmas eve was on the 24th.

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TOPIC: too many late games
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 5:07 pm
From: "Ray O'Hara"


the Pats never seem to play at 1pm anymore.

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TOPIC: Clay Matthews Is Gonna Break Brady's Freakin' Neck
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 5:24 pm
From: "mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu"


Word.

mr dude


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