Tuesday, May 17, 2011

rec.bicycles.racing - 25 new messages in 11 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* Fatty Master Championships - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/eacdb1b54a17b25a?hl=en
* UCI List of all dopers ranked 0-10 "Most likely to succeed" - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/98c5fb6d7d8a5a10?hl=en
* Tour of California now the Tour of Pussies - 4 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/2131cc4e14b81dc7?hl=en
* so you want to be a pro? - 8 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/833bd784841dfab4?hl=en
* David Millar Book? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/e6ce6b03bcca23d6?hl=en
* As Petacchi sprinted down the final 100 meters today I realized than no man
can escape - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/32a25258b07dea50?hl=en
* Tour de France Rule Book - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/04ce32e4dd3dc1e9?hl=en
* A list of cyclists that have taken the "Bike Pure" pledge to race clean. - 2
messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/8e7d0df7f9fc166f?hl=en
* Byron Sonne - Bail tomorrow - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/3e6fdb5ea55e2c16?hl=en
* ping Benton Jerkin and Virgin Chimp - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/d0dd39c273f10fff?hl=en
* Giro d'Italia, stage 10 summary - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/2800dcc5fcf91887?hl=en

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TOPIC: Fatty Master Championships
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/eacdb1b54a17b25a?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, May 16 2011 8:05 pm
From: RicodJour


On May 16, 10:31 pm, Fred Flintstein
<bob.schwa...@sbcREMOVEglobal.net> wrote:
> On 3/22/2011 7:24 PM, Fred Flintstein wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I don't know what else to call this season. There are
> > no obvious top contestants. Kirstie Alley is the one
> > that so totally fits the viewing demographic it is
> > spooky. Everyone wants to like her and she didn't suck.
> > I'm not going to make any predictions until next week
> > but the early betting has her in the finals.
>
> > Athletes do well and Hines Ward has a lot of potential.
> > It hurts him to play in a small media market but he has
> > a lot of visibility in the high density east coast.
> > Sugar Ray Leonard has possibilities but didn't really
> > show much. Chris Jerico will get to go home fairly soon
>
> > The viewing demographic skews older and female. That
> > hurts the pretty girls, looks won't take you that far.
> > Sympathy will although I think Petra Nemcova's English
> > skills will make it difficult for her to connect with
> > the audience. Chelsea Kane and Kendra Wilkinson will
> > have some time to develop fans. The show has had Disney
> > Channel stars and Playboy models before, Kyle Massey is
> > the first to have amounted to anything on the show. It's
> > a weak season with no obvious favorites, one of the
> > pretty girls could make a run.
>
> > Fred Flintstein
>
> Focksticks,
>
> Hines Ward to win.

You know you will eventually be made to make the decision - it's
either them or us. Dancing (gak!) or cycling. It's like swimming (or
ice cream) vs. cycling - it's unnatural and against the CONI bible.

Abandon that gay 'sport' where men touch women who are wearing
revealing clothing and kick their legs really high and simulate sex,
and come back into the fold of a bunch of men wearing uber-tight
clothing and padding their crotches. All is forgiven.

R


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, May 17 2011 6:12 am
From: Fred Flintstein


On 5/16/2011 10:05 PM, RicodJour wrote:
> You know you will eventually be made to make the decision - it's
> either them or us. Dancing (gak!) or cycling. It's like swimming (or
> ice cream) vs. cycling - it's unnatural and against the CONI bible.
>
> Abandon that gay 'sport' where men touch women who are wearing
> revealing clothing and kick their legs really high and simulate sex,
> and come back into the fold of a bunch of men wearing uber-tight
> clothing and padding their crotches. All is forgiven.
>
> R

Focksticks,

There's always Liz Hatch.

Fred Flintstein

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TOPIC: UCI List of all dopers ranked 0-10 "Most likely to succeed"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/98c5fb6d7d8a5a10?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, May 17 2011 2:21 am
From: Simply Fred


Frederick the Great wrote:
> Or you could get a job with the Canadian
> agency that tests athletes for drugs, and become a
> water carrier.

The aliens have a blood carrier position open, although the applicant
would need to be in possession of a valid motorbike with cooler box
sidecar license.


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TOPIC: Tour of California now the Tour of Pussies
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/2131cc4e14b81dc7?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, May 17 2011 2:22 am
From: Simply Fred


RicodJour wrote:
> Notice Hampsten was wearing shorts. Crazy, glorious motherfucker.
> His kneecaps probably didn't thaw out until the next day.

That's why he won that stage (OEDT).

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, May 17 2011 8:57 am
From: Scott


On May 17, 3:22 am, Simply Fred <n...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> RicodJour wrote:
> > Notice Hampsten was wearing shorts.  Crazy, glorious motherfucker.
> > His kneecaps probably didn't thaw out until the next day.
>
> That's why he won that stage (OEDT).

No,he won that stage due to Bobke's heroic efforts to bring him a pair
of gloves.


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, May 17 2011 9:21 am
From: Vagina Gorilla


On May 17, 10:57 am, Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 17, 3:22 am, Simply Fred <n...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>
> > RicodJour wrote:
> > > Notice Hampsten was wearing shorts.  Crazy, glorious motherfucker.
> > > His kneecaps probably didn't thaw out until the next day.
>
> > That's why he won that stage (OEDT).
>
> No,he won that stage due to Bobke's heroic efforts to bring him a pair
> of gloves.

Why didn't he bring him a Road ID ? It's more essential than air in
your tires, shoes, helmet and bazooka.


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, May 17 2011 10:36 am
From: Plano Dude


On May 17, 10:57 am, Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 17, 3:22 am, Simply Fred <n...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>
> > RicodJour wrote:
> > > Notice Hampsten was wearing shorts.  Crazy, glorious motherfucker.
> > > His kneecaps probably didn't thaw out until the next day.
>
> > That's why he won that stage (OEDT).
>
> No,he won that stage due to Bobke's heroic efforts to bring him a pair
> of gloves.

And he got dry-humped for his efforts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnJvU0ofskc&feature=player_detailpage#t=406s

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TOPIC: so you want to be a pro?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/833bd784841dfab4?hl=en
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, May 17 2011 6:02 am
From: "Steve Freides"


Scott wrote:
> I'm always amazed by the folks who plug away their entire 20's,
> chasing that elusive pro contract, thinking that if they just get that
> one opportunity they'll make it big. All they need is someone to
> notice them and it's on like donkey kong. The sad thing is, most of
> those in this situation must be delusional, as it's not a case of not
> being noticed, it's probably a case of just not having the talent (are
> you reading this, Mike?).
>
> Here's a case of what happens when you actually have the goods:
>
> http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/05/news/who-is-giro-stage-winner-bart-de-clercq_172960
>
> Discuss amongst yourselves.

Great line: "Riders should attack a little bit more, they sometimes look
too much to each other. If you feel good, you always need to try to
attack."

I don't know that it's actually good advice. One could argue - pretty
convincingly, IMHO - that the reason he stayed away is because no one
thought a no-name-newbie was capable of staying away for that long. The
interesting thing to watch is whether he wins more or is a one-trick
wonder who had beginner's - and unknown rider's - luck.

Of course, I apologize for actually discussing the race. I know
on-topic posting aren't allowed and we're supposed to piss and moan
about doping, old riders in old races, and our own never-realized
dreams. Again, my apologies -- I'll try not to let it happen again.

-S-


== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, May 17 2011 7:35 am
From: Michael Press


In article <93f9ueFe87U1@mid.individual.net>,
"Steve Freides" <steve@kbnj.com> wrote:

> Scott wrote:
> > I'm always amazed by the folks who plug away their entire 20's,
> > chasing that elusive pro contract, thinking that if they just get that
> > one opportunity they'll make it big. All they need is someone to
> > notice them and it's on like donkey kong. The sad thing is, most of
> > those in this situation must be delusional, as it's not a case of not
> > being noticed, it's probably a case of just not having the talent (are
> > you reading this, Mike?).
> >
> > Here's a case of what happens when you actually have the goods:
> >
> > http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/05/news/who-is-giro-stage-winner-bart-de-clercq_172960
> >
> > Discuss amongst yourselves.
>
> Great line: "Riders should attack a little bit more, they sometimes look
> too much to each other. If you feel good, you always need to try to
> attack."
>
> I don't know that it's actually good advice. One could argue - pretty
> convincingly, IMHO - that the reason he stayed away is because no one
> thought a no-name-newbie was capable of staying away for that long. The
> interesting thing to watch is whether he wins more or is a one-trick
> wonder who had beginner's - and unknown rider's - luck.
>
> Of course, I apologize for actually discussing the race. I know
> on-topic posting aren't allowed and we're supposed to piss and moan
> about doping, old riders in old races, and our own never-realized
> dreams. Again, my apologies -- I'll try not to let it happen again.

Is that sarcasm?

--
Michael Press


== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, May 17 2011 7:44 am
From: RicodJour


On May 17, 10:35 am, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>  "Steve Freides" <st...@kbnj.com> wrote:
>
> > Of course, I apologize for actually discussing the race.  I know
> > on-topic posting aren't allowed and we're supposed to piss and moan
> > about doping, old riders in old races, and our own never-realized
> > dreams.  Again, my apologies -- I'll try not to let it happen again.
>
> Is that sarcasm?

Inverse sarchasm.

R


== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, May 17 2011 9:02 am
From: "Steve Freides"


Michael Press wrote:
> In article <93f9ueFe87U1@mid.individual.net>,
> "Steve Freides" <steve@kbnj.com> wrote:
>
>> Scott wrote:
>>> I'm always amazed by the folks who plug away their entire 20's,
>>> chasing that elusive pro contract, thinking that if they just get
>>> that one opportunity they'll make it big. All they need is someone
>>> to notice them and it's on like donkey kong. The sad thing is,
>>> most of those in this situation must be delusional, as it's not a
>>> case of not being noticed, it's probably a case of just not having
>>> the talent (are you reading this, Mike?).
>>>
>>> Here's a case of what happens when you actually have the goods:
>>>
>>> http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/05/news/who-is-giro-stage-winner-bart-de-clercq_172960
>>>
>>> Discuss amongst yourselves.
>>
>> Great line: "Riders should attack a little bit more, they sometimes
>> look too much to each other. If you feel good, you always need to
>> try to attack."
>>
>> I don't know that it's actually good advice. One could argue -
>> pretty convincingly, IMHO - that the reason he stayed away is
>> because no one thought a no-name-newbie was capable of staying away
>> for that long. The interesting thing to watch is whether he wins
>> more or is a one-trick wonder who had beginner's - and unknown
>> rider's - luck.
>>
>> Of course, I apologize for actually discussing the race. I know
>> on-topic posting aren't allowed and we're supposed to piss and moan
>> about doping, old riders in old races, and our own never-realized
>> dreams. Again, my apologies -- I'll try not to let it happen again.
>
> Is that sarcasm?

Nah ... :)

Well the last paragraph is sarcasm, not what preceded it. I actually
wouldn't mind discussing what I said that was on-topic - curious to know
if such "beginner's luck" happens in pro bike races. I don't think this
is the first time it's happened.

-S-


== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, May 17 2011 10:34 am
From: RicodJour


On May 17, 12:02 pm, "Steve Freides" <st...@kbnj.com> wrote:
>
> Well the last paragraph is sarcasm, not what preceded it.  I actually
> wouldn't mind discussing what I said that was on-topic - curious to know
> if such "beginner's luck" happens in pro bike races.  I don't think this
> is the first time it's happened.

It doesn't matter how many years he has in the saddle, de Clercq rode
well any way you look at it. Scarponi on the other hand, as even
Gogulski mentioned as it was unfolding, was waiting for the exact
right moment to launch his attack and catch de C. He underestimated
de C by what appeared to be two or three watts.

R


== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, May 17 2011 11:05 am
From: yirgster


Joe Parkin's book, A Dog in a Hat, is also interesting in this regard.

Someone talented, but not quite talented enough. On the ADR team with Greg Lemond the year of Lemond's 8 second tour victory, but on the B squad, despite sort of being promised that he'd still be able to ride the tour. Rode Paris-Roubaix, but did a lot more local kermis. Seems like almost every time he was on the way to a good result, he flatted, or got tangled with the food bag, or whatever, but there was usually something.

The chapter on kermis races is priceless including the small part about selling them: "Over the years I have recounted the stories of selling kermis races, and the response has run from shocked disbelief and anger to fascination. My experience as a pro cyclist in Europe has me with a somewhat altered moral code ..."

Terrifically written, imo.


== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, May 17 2011 11:17 am
From: Michael Press


In article <93fkgeF2bbU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Steve Freides" <steve@kbnj.com> wrote:

> Michael Press wrote:
> > In article <93f9ueFe87U1@mid.individual.net>,
> > "Steve Freides" <steve@kbnj.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Scott wrote:
> >>> I'm always amazed by the folks who plug away their entire 20's,
> >>> chasing that elusive pro contract, thinking that if they just get
> >>> that one opportunity they'll make it big. All they need is someone
> >>> to notice them and it's on like donkey kong. The sad thing is,
> >>> most of those in this situation must be delusional, as it's not a
> >>> case of not being noticed, it's probably a case of just not having
> >>> the talent (are you reading this, Mike?).
> >>>
> >>> Here's a case of what happens when you actually have the goods:
> >>>
> >>> http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/05/news/who-is-giro-stage-winner-bart-de-clercq_172960
> >>>
> >>> Discuss amongst yourselves.
> >>
> >> Great line: "Riders should attack a little bit more, they sometimes
> >> look too much to each other. If you feel good, you always need to
> >> try to attack."
> >>
> >> I don't know that it's actually good advice. One could argue -
> >> pretty convincingly, IMHO - that the reason he stayed away is
> >> because no one thought a no-name-newbie was capable of staying away
> >> for that long. The interesting thing to watch is whether he wins
> >> more or is a one-trick wonder who had beginner's - and unknown
> >> rider's - luck.
> >>
> >> Of course, I apologize for actually discussing the race. I know
> >> on-topic posting aren't allowed and we're supposed to piss and moan
> >> about doping, old riders in old races, and our own never-realized
> >> dreams. Again, my apologies -- I'll try not to let it happen again.
> >
> > Is that sarcasm?
>
> Nah ... :)

That's sarcasm, right? I'm just learning.
<http://www.sarcasmsociety.com/sarcasm/howtobesarcastic/lessontwo>

> Well the last paragraph is sarcasm, not what preceded it.

Thanks.

> I actually
> wouldn't mind discussing what I said that was on-topic - curious to know
> if such "beginner's luck" happens in pro bike races. I don't think this
> is the first time it's happened.

I expect riders attack about as much as they can get away with,
and without burning more energy than it is worth.

--
Michael Press


== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, May 17 2011 1:47 pm
From: Scott


On May 17, 10:02 am, "Steve Freides" <st...@kbnj.com> wrote:
> Michael Press wrote:
> > In article <93f9ueFe8...@mid.individual.net>,
> > "Steve Freides" <st...@kbnj.com> wrote:
>
> >> Scott wrote:
> >>> I'm always amazed by the folks who plug away their entire 20's,
> >>> chasing that elusive pro contract, thinking that if they just get
> >>> that one opportunity they'll make it big.  All they need is someone
> >>> to notice them and it's on like donkey kong.  The sad thing is,
> >>> most of those in this situation must be delusional, as it's not a
> >>> case of not being noticed, it's probably a case of just not having
> >>> the talent (are you reading this, Mike?).
>
> >>> Here's a case of what happens when you actually have the goods:
>
> >>>http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/05/news/who-is-giro-stage-winner-...
>
> >>> Discuss amongst yourselves.
>
> >> Great line: "Riders should attack a little bit more, they sometimes
> >> look too much to each other. If you feel good, you always need to
> >> try to attack."
>
> >> I don't know that it's actually good advice.  One could argue -
> >> pretty convincingly, IMHO - that the reason he stayed away is
> >> because no one thought a no-name-newbie was capable of staying away
> >> for that long.  The interesting thing to watch is whether he wins
> >> more or is a one-trick wonder who had beginner's - and unknown
> >> rider's - luck.
>
> >> Of course, I apologize for actually discussing the race.  I know
> >> on-topic posting aren't allowed and we're supposed to piss and moan
> >> about doping, old riders in old races, and our own never-realized
> >> dreams.  Again, my apologies -- I'll try not to let it happen again.
>
> > Is that sarcasm?
>
> Nah ...  :)
>
> Well the last paragraph is sarcasm, not what preceded it.  I actually
> wouldn't mind discussing what I said that was on-topic - curious to know
> if such "beginner's luck" happens in pro bike races.  I don't think this
> is the first time it's happened.
>
> -S-

You guys are focused on the wrong aspect of the story. It's not that
he won, but rather someone noticed his obvious talent and brought him
up through a development system. He didn' spend years sleeping in his
Yugo and eating pb&j waiting for the big break that was never going to
come.

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TOPIC: David Millar Book?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/e6ce6b03bcca23d6?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, May 17 2011 6:42 am
From: --D-y


Ghosted by William Fotheringham ("Put Me Back On My Bike")?

Judging by PMBOMB, this could be a fair telling of the story.
Speaking personally, I'm looking forward to this one. PMBOMB is a
truly superior and successful effort, IMHO.

Is there a hint of the seasonal Walsh opus, or did Novitsky warn him
off?
Whew, I bet there's a quandary. If he waits, and the best they can do
is give Lance a parking ticket sometime next year, with no proper
regard for the racing calendar, it all could go thud. Especially
because racing is almost completely clean now. Except of course for
the guy leading the Giro-- well, what moo-re need be said?
--D-y

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TOPIC: As Petacchi sprinted down the final 100 meters today I realized than no
man can escape
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/32a25258b07dea50?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, May 17 2011 9:20 am
From: Vagina Gorilla


the lure of porn.

http://weirdnews.aol.com/2011/05/17/porn-stars-in-bin-laden-collection_n_862836.html

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TOPIC: Tour de France Rule Book
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/04ce32e4dd3dc1e9?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, May 17 2011 9:27 am
From: Vagina Gorilla


"The acceptance of drug-taking in the Tour de France was so complete
by 1930 that the rule book, distributed by Henri Desgrange, reminded
riders that drugs would not be provided by the organisers."

Riders have had to buy their own drugs from that time on.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, May 17 2011 10:28 am
From: RicodJour


On May 17, 12:27 pm, Vagina Gorilla <vaginagori...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "The acceptance of drug-taking in the Tour de France was so complete
> by 1930 that the rule book, distributed by Henri Desgrange, reminded
> riders that drugs would not be provided by the organisers."
>
> Riders have had to buy their own drugs from that time on.

They should have unionized earlier.

R

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TOPIC: A list of cyclists that have taken the "Bike Pure" pledge to race clean.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/8e7d0df7f9fc166f?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, May 17 2011 9:34 am
From: Vagina Gorilla


Anyone heard of any of these losers? I found a few in the DNF and
abandoned lists.

http://bikepure.org/riders-and-teams/pro-riders/page/10/

There's also a list of CEOs and politicians that have taken a pledge
not to lie, cheat or steal.

http://www.aeropause.com/wordpress/archives/images/2009/05/error404.jpg


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, May 17 2011 10:26 am
From: RicodJour


On May 17, 12:34 pm, Vagina Gorilla <vaginagori...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Anyone heard of any of these losers?     I found a few in the DNF and
> abandoned lists.
>
> http://bikepure.org/riders-and-teams/pro-riders/page/10/

You are one brave man. Picking on a guy with a name like Waylon
Woolcock. He's just itching for a fight.

R

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TOPIC: Byron Sonne - Bail tomorrow
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/3e6fdb5ea55e2c16?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, May 17 2011 9:53 am
From: Davey Crockett


Bail Conditions will be set for this local Mountain Bike Wannabee cum
Mad Bomber in a Toronto Courtroom tomorrow, eleven months after he
was arrested and charged with mischief, possession of explosives,
weapons and intimidating "justice system participants".

But in a land where the Prime Minister regularly commits acts of High
Treason without any noticeable reaction from the Press and campaigns on
Election Day openly in defiance of Canada's Election Laws, the Bail
Conditions are liable to be quite restrictive and severe.

--
Davey Crockett
Flying the Flag of the English
The Flag of Hengest and Horsa
http://usera.imagecave.com/daveycrockett/englishdragon.jpg


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, May 17 2011 10:25 am
From: RicodJour


You left off one line from your sig. I fixed it for you.

On May 17, 12:53 pm, Davey Crockett <r...@azurservers.com> wrote:
> Bail Conditions will be set for this local Mountain Bike Wannabee cum
> Mad Bomber in a Toronto Courtroom tomorrow, eleven months after he
> was arrested and charged with mischief, possession of explosives,
> weapons and intimidating "justice system participants".
>
> But in a land where the Prime Minister regularly commits acts of High
> Treason without any noticeable reaction from the Press and campaigns on
> Election Day openly in defiance of Canada's Election Laws, the Bail
> Conditions are liable to be quite restrictive and severe.
>
> --
> Davey Crockett
> Flying the Flag of the English
> The Flag of Hengest and Horsahttp://usera.imagecave.com/daveycrockett/englishdragon.jpg
Davey "I never met a windmill I wouldn't take a tilt at" Crockett


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TOPIC: ping Benton Jerkin and Virgin Chimp
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/d0dd39c273f10fff?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, May 17 2011 10:44 am
From: atriage


Cavendish wins in Italia
Swift wins in AmeriKKKa
SUCK IT DOWN FAGBOIS.

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TOPIC: Giro d'Italia, stage 10 summary
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/2800dcc5fcf91887?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, May 17 2011 1:13 pm
From: Bob Martin



Stage 10 : May 17, Termoli - Teramo, 159 km

1 Mark Cavendish (GBr) HTC-Highroad 4.00.49
2 Francisco Jose Ventoso Alberdi (Spa) Movistar Team
3 Alessandro Petacchi (Ita) Lampre - ISD
4 Roberto Ferrari (Ita) Androni Giocattoli
5 Davide Appollonio (Ita) Sky Procycling
6 Francesco Chicchi (Ita) Quickstep Cycling Team
7 Klaas Lodewyck (Bel) Omega Pharma-Lotto
8 Sacha Modolo (Ita) Colnago - CSF Inox
9 Alexander Kristoff (Nor) BMC Racing Team
10 Oscar Gatto (Ita) Farnese Vini - Neri Sottoli


Changes in GC, stage 10 compared to stage 9 :

Biggest gainers by position :
+4 Tiziano Dall'antonia
+4 Manuel Belletti
+3 Simone Stortoni
+3 Sergey Lagutin
+3 Sebastian Lang
+3 Richie Porte
+3 Danilo Wyss
+2 Roberto Ferrari
+2 Robert Hunter
+2 Miguel Minguez Ayala

Biggest losers by position :
-13 Lars Ytting Bak
-9 Craig Lewis
-8 Kristof Vandewalle
-8 Martin Kohler
-7 Addy Engels
-7 Lars Petter Nordhaug
-6 Patrick Gretsch
-5 Mickael Cherel
-4 Daniel Navarro Garcia
-4 Davide Malacarne
-4 Jussi Veikkanen

Biggest gainers by time :
+0:20 Mark Cavendish
+0:12 Francisco Jose Ventoso Alberdi
+0:08 Alessandro Petacchi
+0:06 Fumiyuki Beppu

Biggest losers by time :
-5:20 Jos van Emden
-4:51 Patrick Gretsch
-3:56 Craig Lewis
-3:56 Lars Ytting Bak
-3:50 Martin Kohler
-3:50 Matthew Wilson
-3:47 Addy Engels
-3:47 Kristof Vandewalle
-2:39 Pierre Cazaux
-2:18 Federico Canuti
-2:18 Maxim Gourov

Favourites by position :
+3 Richie Porte
-13 Lars Ytting Bak

Favourites by time :
-1:19 Frantisek Rabon
-3:56 Lars Ytting Bak

Top 10 and favourites GC standings (previous stage in parens) :
1 Alberto Contador Velasco 37:04:40 (unchanged)
2 Kanstantsin Siutsou 0:59 (unchanged)
3 Christophe Le Mevel 1:19 (unchanged)
4 Vincenzo Nibali 1:21 (unchanged)
5 Michele Scarponi 1:28 (unchanged)
6 David Arroyo Duran 1:37 (unchanged)
7 Roman Kreuziger 1:41 (unchanged)
8 Jose Rodolfo Serpa Perez 1:47 (unchanged)
9 Dario Cataldo 2:21 (unchanged)
10 Matteo Carrara 2:21 (unchanged)
.....
13 Stefano Garzelli 2:39 (unchanged)
.....
20 Denis Menchov 3:18 (unchanged)
21 Thomas Lovkvist 3:27 (unchanged)
.....
26 Carlos Sastre Candil 4:57 (unchanged)
.....
39 Daniel Moreno Fernandez 14:16 (unchanged)
.....
71 Danilo Di Luca 35:05 (unchanged)
.....
100 Richie Porte 48:33 (was 103rd at 48:33)
.....
135 Lars Ytting Bak 1:00:19 (was 122nd at 56:23)
.....
161 Frantisek Rabon 1:13:04 (was 161st at 1:11:45)

Top 10 on Points table with previous in parens:
1 Jan Bakelants 12 (was 1st with 10 points)
2 Pablo Lastras Garcia 5 (unchanged)
3 Matteo Montaguti 5 (unchanged)
4 Fumiyuki Beppu 5 (was 0 points)
5 Sebastian Lang 5 (was 6th with 5 points)
6 Martin Kohler 5 (was 4th with 5 points)
7 Kristof Vandewalle 5 (was 5th with 5 points)
8 Mirko Selvaggi 5 (was 7th with 5 points)
9 Matteo Tosatto 5 (was 8th with 5 points)
10 Giovanni Visconti 4 (was 9th with 4 points)

Top 10 on Mountains table with previous in parens:
1 Filippo Savini 16 (unchanged)
2 Alberto Contador Velasco 15 (unchanged)
3 Bart De Clercq 11 (unchanged)
4 Martin Kohler 10 (unchanged)
5 Federico Canuti 9 (unchanged)
6 Jose Rujano Guillen 9 (unchanged)
7 Mathias Frank 9 (unchanged)
8 Gianluca Brambilla 8 (unchanged)
9 Roman Kreuziger 8 (unchanged)
10 Stefano Garzelli 8 (unchanged)

Retirements to date : Stage
Adam Blyth (GBr) Omega Pharma-Lotto 10 <<<
Chris Butler (USA) BMC Racing Team 9
Graeme Brown (Aus) Rabobank Cycling Team 9
Jackson Rodriguez (Ven) Androni Giocattoli 9
Robbie McEwen (Aus) Team RadioShack 9
Fabio Andres Duarte Arevalo (Col) Geox-TMC 8
Brice Feillu (Fra) Leopard Trek 5
Bruno Pires (Por) Leopard Trek 5
Chris Barton (USA) BMC Racing Team 5
Davide ViganA² (Ita) Leopard Trek 5
Dominic Klemme (Ger) Leopard Trek 5
Fabian Wegmann (Ger) Leopard Trek 5
Francesco Failli (Ita) Farnese Vini - Neri Sottoli 5
Oliver Zaugg (Swi) Leopard Trek 5
Thomas Rohregger (Aut) Leopard Trek 5
Tom Slagter (Ned) Rabobank Cycling Team 5
Tom Stamsnijder (Ned) Leopard Trek 5
Tyler Farrar (USA) Team Garmin-Cervelo 5
Wouter Weylandt (Bel) Leopard Trek 3
Total retirements : 19


(This report can also be seen at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rvmartin2)


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