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TOPIC: Kenrick Ellis
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Date: Tues, Jul 12 2011 6:51 pm
On Jul 12, 7:34 pm, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Jul 12, 6:44 pm, A J <a...@fogliettaandson.com> wrote:
> > On Jul 12, 2:36 pm, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > > On Jul 12, 1:41 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > > > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > > >news:email@example.com...
> > > > On Jul 12, 10:10 am, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > X-No-Archive: Yes
> > > > > I hope he keeps his nose clean. If you are the Jets do you try &
> > > > > bring in Jenkins for $1Mm or $2MM with no guarantee?
> > > > > Friday, July 8, 2011
> > > > > Kenrick Ellis gets trial rescheduled
> > > > > By Rich Cimini
> > > > > ESPNNewYork.com
> > > > > New York Jets draft pick Kenrick Ellis, originally scheduled to stand
> > > > > trial next Tuesday in Hampton, Va., for felony assault, received a
> > > > > continuance and was rescheduled for Nov. 28, an official from the
> > > > > Hampton Circuit court said Friday.
> > > > > Because that would occur in the middle of the season, assuming the
> > > > > NFL's labor dispute is settled, Ellis' recently-hired attorney likely
> > > > > will request another continuance. That would push the case into next
> > > > > offseason at the earliest.
> > > > > Ellis was indicted a month before the April draft on the charge of
> > > > > malicious wounding, a Class 3 felony in Virginia. If convicted, he
> > > > > faces up to 20 years in prison.
> > > > > A potential complication is that Ellis is not a U.S. citizen,
> > > > > ESPNNewYork.com has learned. Ellis, a native of Jamaica who moved to
> > > > > Florida at the age of 11, has "permanent resident" status. A permanent
> > > > > resident convicted of an aggravated felony is deportable, according to
> > > > > immigration law.
> > > > > Jets blog
> > > > > Jets Looking for more on
> > > > > the green and white? ESPNNewYork.com has you covered. Blog
> > > > > Because of the enormous stakes, Ellis' best move is to negotiate a
> > > > > plea bargain before he gets to court, according to three immigration
> > > > > lawyers contacted by ESPNNewYork.com. That, they agreed, is the likely
> > > > > outcome.
> > > > > The key is to make sure that any plea arrangement isn't classified as
> > > > > an aggravated assault and carries less than a one-year sentence,
> > > > > suspended or otherwise, according to Virginia-based immigration
> > > > > attorney Bill Kovatch.
> > > > > "There's a reason (for the Jets) to be worried ... because if it's an
> > > > > aggravated felony, there's nothing that can be done," said Kovatch,
> > > > > who doesn't represent Ellis. "He gets deported and there's no waiver."
> > > > > The Jets, who said at the time of the draft that they were
> > > > > "comfortable" with the risk after investigating Ellis and the
> > > > > incident, declined to comment Friday on the potential ramifications of
> > > > > the case because it's still pending. Ellis, a 6-foot-5, 345-pound nose
> > > > > tackle, was selected in the third round.
> > > > > Ellis was arrested April 12, 2010, by the Hampton University police
> > > > > department, a few days after he allegedly attacked another man,
> > > > > identified in court records as Dennis Eley, a student at Hampton.
> > > > > Details are sketchy because the school won't release the arrest
> > > > > report. A school spokesperson denied ESPNNewYork.com's request,
> > > > > claiming it's part of an ongoing investigation by the district
> > > > > attorney and that Hampton isn't subject to the Freedom of Information
> > > > > Act because it's a private institution.
> > > > > The DA's office declined to comment, and Ellis' lawyer, Tim Clancy,
> > > > > didn't return multiple phone messages.
> > > > > People close to Ellis have said that Eley harassed his girlfriend and
> > > > > came after him with a baseball bat, prompting the lineman to act in
> > > > > self-defense.
> > > > > A month after the indictment, Eley filed a civil suit, asking for $3
> > > > > million in damages. According to the lawsuit, obtained by
> > > > > ESPNNewYork.com, Ellis attacked Eley without provocation at a secluded
> > > > > location on campus, breaking his nose and his jaw in two places. Eley
> > > > > required two surgeries, the suit claims.
> > > > > Ellis has yet to be served with the suit, Eley's lawyer said Friday.
> > > > > The lawyer, S. Howard Woodson, said there have been "preliminary"
> > > > > discussions with Ellis' attorney regarding a possible financial
> > > > > settlement. Woodson said Eley was forced to drop out of school because
> > > > > of the injuries and is now working in the Washington, D.C. area.
> > > > > Because of the pending charge, and because he was previously dismissed
> > > > > from the South Carolina team for failing multiple drug tests, Ellis
> > > > > was deemed a draft risk. A general manager from another team, speaking
> > > > > on the condition of anonymity, said his team shied away from Ellis
> > > > > because of the criminal charge and its potential ramifications on his
> > > > > residency status.
> > > > > "That was big for us," the GM said. "It's a pain in the tail, the
> > > > > whole legal issue."
> > > > > A person that commits a crime of "moral turpitude" is deportable,
> > > > > according to immigration law. It's a broad and subjective term that
> > > > > can be used for any crime that U.S. Citizenship and Immigration
> > > > > Services deems offensive, but it usually refers to a vile and depraved
> > > > > act, done with reckless, malicious or evil intent.
> > > > > One big factor in Ellis' favor: He has been a permanent resident for
> > > > > more than five years. Even if he's convicted of a crime of moral
> > > > > turpitude, as long as it's a misdemeanor -- a sentence less than one
> > > > > year -- it won't affect his residency status, Kovatch said. But a
> > > > > repeat offense, he said, would make him deportable.
> > > > > Rich Cimini covers the Jets for ESPNNewYork.com.
> > > > bring in jenkins for 1 to 2 mm so long as he agrees to wear his brace.
> > > > on both knees. last year's re-injury might not have occured if he had
> > > > been wearing a brace. this whole business with k. ellis looks dicey.
> > > > i have been wondering what sort of legal advice the jets got prior to
> > > > drafting him. did their advisor take into account possible
> > > > deportation ???
> > > > There are too many factors that will not work in favor of Ellis I think.
> > > > Seems like the Jets took a big risk on this one.- Hide quoted text -
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> > > papa... i agree... what im not understanding most of all is this...
> > > ellis fills a need in that at his size, he is a bona fied NT...
> > > still... he was never considered by any scouting review or "expert"
> > > account as a marquee prospect. he's a run stuffer that lacks "suh"
> > > like potential to dominate and impact a game. why would you take a
> > > chance with a guy that has two assault cases pending and two drug
> > > testing issues if he is not something real special. it really does
> > > appear to be an unwarranted gamble. What do the jets know that I
> > > don't ??? are they now addicted to picking problem cases for its own
> > > sake ???
> > My guess is that contract language will specifically void the
> > agreement if, as a result of the adjudication of the existing charges
> > in question, deportation is the result..- Hide quoted text -
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> that would account for the cash, but the #3 pick is still up the spout
> if he gets deported- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
Maybe he can come back in on a work visa? :)
TOPIC: It's only $9 billion ...
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Date: Wed, Jul 13 2011 2:57 am
From: Percy Flage
... not even a proper Billion.
Just split it 50:50 and have done with it. Let's play FOOTBALL!
TOPIC: The PC Gestapo at it again...
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Date: Wed, Jul 13 2011 8:24 am
OK... Here we go again...
Obviously, Harrison is not a diplomat...
Some of what we have had from Harrison.
On Goodell: ""If that man was on fire and I had to piss to put him
out, I wouldn't do it," Harrison said, per the Associated Press""
Harrison also called Goodell a "crook" and a "devil" and a "puppet"
and a "dictator." Harrison also called Goodell somthing that reports
are clling an "anti-gay slur,"" See below
Here is my bro bono written statement for Harrison...
"I have nothing to apologize for... The associated press can apologize
to me for misrepresenting me in the press. I didn't make any anti
homosexual statements. I don't even know what Godelle does in his
spare time when he isnt scape goating me for the physical nature of
our sport. When I say he's being gay, I mean he's being a real sissy,
not a homosexual. May be I need to apologize for slurring every 90
pound weakling in the world, but I don't have any problems with what
anyone one does like that in their personal life. I want an honest
apology from them about that. This is real nonsense... First I'm
getting targeted because I hit people on a football field and now I'm
getting blamed for this ??? Come on man... "
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