Tuesday, July 12, 2011

rec.bicycles.racing - 25 new messages in 11 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* Kolobnev - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/b7801113d2b36f3d?hl=en
* That car driver needs to be executed - 6 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/dab23173438aea08?hl=en
* Boring tour so far - 4 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/0cfca4e728a97da5?hl=en
* Can't gripe with Gripel - 4 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/32e30ff6311863d9?hl=en
* Voeckler - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/9157a7b092967649?hl=en
* Johnny Hoogerland (Viewer Discretion Advised) - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/32a03f633947e783?hl=en
* british dumbasses ... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/92a855dbb2965a07?hl=en
* 2011 TDF Crash fest. No dead yet. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/b6d3691accf66d52?hl=en
* French TV reporters car and occupants shown on ITV4! - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/2e5ad09b7773df1c?hl=en
* team rwanda - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/d57803ce8e7e8310?hl=en
* WWLD - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/1814b47671c50717?hl=en

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TOPIC: Kolobnev
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/b7801113d2b36f3d?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 12 2011 7:44 am
From: BL


On 7/12/2011 8:49 AM, Scott wrote:
> On Jul 12, 6:13 am, BL<b...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> "Kolobnev is one of five Russian riders caught up in the Italian police
>> investigation into Dr Michele Ferrari and his links to Lance Armstrong.
>> His medical record and contract were seized by police from Padova in
>> April." Along with Popo's computer.http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/kolobnev-denies-doping-after-positive...
>>
>> And today Popo has a fever foring him to quit the Tour. Priceless.
>
> BL = one trick pony.
> SSDD
>
Scott = Moron with nothing useful to type.


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 12 2011 9:10 am
From: Jimmy July


On 07/12/2011 07:44 AM, BL wrote:
> On 7/12/2011 8:49 AM, Scott wrote:
>> On Jul 12, 6:13 am, BL<b...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> "Kolobnev is one of five Russian riders caught up in the Italian police
>>> investigation into Dr Michele Ferrari and his links to Lance Armstrong.
>>> His medical record and contract were seized by police from Padova in
>>> April." Along with Popo's
>>> computer.http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/kolobnev-denies-doping-after-positive...
>>>
>>>
>>> And today Popo has a fever foring him to quit the Tour. Priceless.
>>
>> BL = one trick pony.
>> SSDD
>>
> Scott = Moron with nothing useful to type.

I'm glad your around to connect the dots for us. Without you, we
wouldn't have known LANCE was responsible for Kolobnev's doping. Keep up
the good work!


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 12 2011 10:12 am
From: "Mike Jacoubowsky"


"BL" <bl@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:8eydnfoX0ZbIp4HTnZ2dnUVZ_h2dnZ2d@giganews.com...
> "Kolobnev is one of five Russian riders caught up in the Italian
> police investigation into Dr Michele Ferrari and his links to Lance
> Armstrong. His medical record and contract were seized by police from
> Padova in April." Along with Popo's computer.
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/kolobnev-denies-doping-after-positive-test-at-the-tour-de-france
>
> And today Popo has a fever foring him to quit the Tour. Priceless.

So tell me, are the Italians inept or just thorough? How long have they
had Popo's computer?

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

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TOPIC: That car driver needs to be executed
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/dab23173438aea08?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 12 2011 7:46 am
From: "A. Dumas"


Dumbass wrote:
> Dumbass, Here's the video:

In HD:
http://ewoud.home.xs4all.nl/cycling/20110710_tourdefrance_carcrash_720p.html
inluding ITV4 screen caps of driver and passenger.


== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 12 2011 8:29 am
From: thirty-six


On Jul 12, 3:46 pm, "A. Dumas" <alexan...@dumas.fr.invalid> wrote:
> Dumbass wrote:
> > Dumbass, Here's the video:
>
> In HD:http://ewoud.home.xs4all.nl/cycling/20110710_tourdefrance_carcrash_72...
> inluding ITV4 screen caps of driver and passenger.

Looks like a woman. Cross-over steering is bad, as is steering with
one hand. How else did the indicater stalk get knocked, did the
passenger grab the wheel to mitgate the injuries?


== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 12 2011 8:44 am
From: thirty-six


On Jul 12, 3:46 pm, "A. Dumas" <alexan...@dumas.fr.invalid> wrote:
> Dumbass wrote:
> > Dumbass, Here's the video:
>
> In HD:http://ewoud.home.xs4all.nl/cycling/20110710_tourdefrance_carcrash_72...
> inluding ITV4 screen caps of driver and passenger.

This shot also demonstrates clearly that the driver over-reacted to
the presence of the tree, which clearly was not moving. A lesser
steering input even at such a late stage would have sufficed. Perhaps
the organisation should ensure that all professional drivers have
100000 miles on the bike experience of club riding and racing as well
as an ability to drive a manual transmission to a high standard.


== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 12 2011 9:23 am
From: Dumbass


On Jul 12, 11:44 am, thirty-six <thirty-...@live.co.uk> wrote:
> On Jul 12, 3:46 pm, "A. Dumas" <alexan...@dumas.fr.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Dumbass wrote:
> > > Dumbass, Here's the video:
>
> > In HD:http://ewoud.home.xs4all.nl/cycling/20110710_tourdefrance_carcrash_72...
> > inluding ITV4 screen caps of driver and passenger.
>
> This shot also demonstrates clearly that the driver over-reacted to
> the presence of the tree, which clearly was not moving.  A lesser
> steering input even at such a late stage would have sufficed.  Perhaps
> the organisation should ensure that all professional drivers have
> 100000 miles on the bike experience of club riding and racing as well
> as an ability to drive a manual transmission to a high standard.

Looking closely at what happened before she hit the bike.

1. She ran off the road.

2. The turn signal came on.

3. She (arguably) overcorrected to get back on the hard surface.

Could be the tree, or the humps along the side of the road spooked
her. Not only was the road narrow, but off-road area that she drove
off into is irregular and not flat.


== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 12 2011 9:35 am
From: Dumbass


On Jul 12, 12:23 pm, Dumbass <tadams...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 12, 11:44 am, thirty-six <thirty-...@live.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 12, 3:46 pm, "A. Dumas" <alexan...@dumas.fr.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > Dumbass wrote:
> > > > Dumbass, Here's the video:
>
> > > In HD:http://ewoud.home.xs4all.nl/cycling/20110710_tourdefrance_carcrash_72...
> > > inluding ITV4 screen caps of driver and passenger.
>
> > This shot also demonstrates clearly that the driver over-reacted to
> > the presence of the tree, which clearly was not moving.  A lesser
> > steering input even at such a late stage would have sufficed.  Perhaps
> > the organisation should ensure that all professional drivers have
> > 100000 miles on the bike experience of club riding and racing as well
> > as an ability to drive a manual transmission to a high standard.
>
> Looking closely at what happened before she hit the bike.
>
> 1.  She ran off the road.
>
> 2.  The turn signal came on.
>
> 3.  She (arguably) overcorrected to get back on the hard surface.
>
> Could be the tree, or the humps along the side of the road spooked
> her.  Not only was the road narrow, but off-road area that she drove
> off into is irregular and not flat.

Illustrates the principle that one you run off the road you should
slow down and not try to get back on quickly.


== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 12 2011 9:56 am
From: thirty-six


On Jul 12, 5:23 pm, Dumbass <tadams...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 12, 11:44 am, thirty-six <thirty-...@live.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 12, 3:46 pm, "A. Dumas" <alexan...@dumas.fr.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > Dumbass wrote:
> > > > Dumbass, Here's the video:
>
> > > In HD:http://ewoud.home.xs4all.nl/cycling/20110710_tourdefrance_carcrash_72...
> > > inluding ITV4 screen caps of driver and passenger.
>
> > This shot also demonstrates clearly that the driver over-reacted to
> > the presence of the tree, which clearly was not moving.  A lesser
> > steering input even at such a late stage would have sufficed.  Perhaps
> > the organisation should ensure that all professional drivers have
> > 100000 miles on the bike experience of club riding and racing as well
> > as an ability to drive a manual transmission to a high standard.
>
> Looking closely at what happened before she hit the bike.
>
> 1.  She ran off the road.
>
> 2.  The turn signal came on.
>
> 3.  She (arguably) overcorrected to get back on the hard surface.
>
> Could be the tree, or the humps along the side of the road spooked
> her.  Not only was the road narrow, but off-road area that she drove
> off into is irregular and not flat.

Oh dear, I didn't think, most drivers will not have had the experience
of sticking a couple of wheels over the edge. With radial ply tyres
it makes no difference as long as you don't hoof it. The suspension
on any regular medium or large saloon would cope with that edge
without drama. It's the driver's actions which are normally to blame
for lack of control, as it is here, TOTALLY.

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TOPIC: Boring tour so far
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/0cfca4e728a97da5?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 12 2011 7:55 am
From: Anton Berlin


We need to recruit some fresh meat into RBR. So far we only have 1
newbie dumbass post.

I count on RBR to entertain me because there's no fucking way the
morons on Versus can.


== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 12 2011 8:18 am
From: BL


On 7/12/2011 10:55 AM, Anton Berlin wrote:
> We need to recruit some fresh meat into RBR. So far we only have 1
> newbie dumbass post.
>
> I count on RBR to entertain me because there's no fucking way the
> morons on Versus can.
rbr died a few years ago, my friend.


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 12 2011 9:16 am
From: Jimmy July


On 07/12/2011 08:18 AM, BL wrote:
> On 7/12/2011 10:55 AM, Anton Berlin wrote:
>> We need to recruit some fresh meat into RBR. So far we only have 1
>> newbie dumbass post.
>>
>> I count on RBR to entertain me because there's no fucking way the
>> morons on Versus can.
> rbr died a few years ago, my friend.

Really. All that's left are professional fanboys being paid by LA or CFE.


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 12 2011 10:00 am
From: RicodJour


On Jul 12, 12:16 pm, Jimmy July <F...@Burger.com> wrote:
> On 07/12/2011 08:18 AM, BL wrote:
> > On 7/12/2011 10:55 AM, Anton Berlin wrote:
>
> >> We need to recruit some fresh meat into RBR. So far we only have 1
> >> newbie dumbass post.
>
> >> I count on RBR to entertain me because there's no fucking way the
> >> morons on Versus can.
> > rbr died a few years ago, my friend.
>
> Really. All that's left are professional fanboys being paid by LA or CFE.

I'm fanboi-ing Hoogerland pro bono until he's more
liquid....errr....doesn't have a crash flow problem...ummm...is on
more stable terrain? Anyway, his money is no good here.

R

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TOPIC: Can't gripe with Gripel
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/32e30ff6311863d9?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 12 2011 8:14 am
From: Anton Berlin


Always nice to see Cavendouche lose a drag race.

He's been hand fed a meatball for every sprint he's ever "won".

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 12 2011 9:01 am
From: Uncle Dave


On Jul 12, 4:14 pm, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Always nice to see Cavendouche lose a drag race.
>
> He's been hand fed a meatball for every sprint he's ever "won".

Well, it is his job and he is pretty good at it. He's hardly unique.
Remember how

I always enjoy seeing one trick ponies get their come uppance though
it never seems to happen to those riders who try and bore us to death
each year then end up on the podium. Brilliant tactics from OPL -
Gilbert had everyone thinking he was crazy but it did the trick
leaving Cav exposed. He's not an Abdou, he's lost on his own. The
problem is getting him lost and they did a magnificent job of that
today. One positive thing about him, at least he keeps going to the
finish of the race unlike, say, Cipollini.

UD


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 12 2011 9:47 am
From: RicodJour


On Jul 12, 12:01 pm, Uncle Dave <davidco...@t-online.de> wrote:
> On Jul 12, 4:14 pm, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Always nice to see Cavendouche lose a drag race.
>
> > He's been hand fed a meatball for every sprint he's ever "won".
>
> Well, it is his job and he is pretty good at it.  He's hardly unique.
> Remember how
>
> I always enjoy seeing one trick ponies get their come uppance though
> it never seems to happen to those riders who try and bore us to death
> each year then end up on the podium.  Brilliant tactics from OPL -
> Gilbert had everyone thinking he was crazy but it did the trick
> leaving Cav exposed.  He's not an Abdou, he's lost on his own.  The
> problem is getting him lost and they did a magnificent job of that
> today.  One positive thing about him, at least he keeps going to the
> finish of the race unlike, say, Cipollini.

Are you still talking about Cavenish...? He's sat up more times than
anybody else. He 'sat up' today - what a sorry excuse for a bike
throw at the line. He just put his head down and forgot the toss
part.

R


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 12 2011 10:06 am
From: Uncle Dave


On Jul 12, 5:47 pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jul 12, 12:01 pm, Uncle Dave <davidco...@t-online.de> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 12, 4:14 pm, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Always nice to see Cavendouche lose a drag race.
>
> > > He's been hand fed a meatball for every sprint he's ever "won".
>
> > Well, it is his job and he is pretty good at it.  He's hardly unique.
> > Remember how
>
> > I always enjoy seeing one trick ponies get their come uppance though
> > it never seems to happen to those riders who try and bore us to death
> > each year then end up on the podium.  Brilliant tactics from OPL -
> > Gilbert had everyone thinking he was crazy but it did the trick
> > leaving Cav exposed.  He's not an Abdou, he's lost on his own.  The
> > problem is getting him lost and they did a magnificent job of that
> > today.  One positive thing about him, at least he keeps going to the
> > finish of the race unlike, say, Cipollini.
>
> Are you still talking about Cavenish...?   He's sat up more times than
> anybody else.  He 'sat up' today - what a sorry excuse for a bike
> throw at the line.  He just put his head down and forgot the toss
> part.

The race. Not the stage.

UD

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TOPIC: Voeckler
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/9157a7b092967649?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 12 2011 7:40 am
From: Dumbass


On Jul 12, 10:38 am, Dumbass <tadams...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 10, 8:07 pm, ilan <ilan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 11, 1:58 am, RicodJour <ricodj...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 10, 7:36 pm, ilan <ilan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jul 11, 1:08 am, Fred Flintstein <bob.schwa...@sbcREMOVEglobal.net>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > In 2004 we flew to France for the Tour, starting the trip in
> > > > > a village in the Ariege. Voeckler had yellow, after taking a
> > > > > big gap in one of the early stages. Stage 13 ended at Plateau
> > > > > de Beille, and I was at the saddle in between the Col d'Agnes
> > > > > and the Port de Lers. The lead group came through and Voeckler
> > > > > was absent.
>
> > > > > He followed after a bit, looking like hell. There was no doubt
> > > > > in my mind that this was his last day in the lead. He started
> > > > > the day with 5:24 on Armstrong and he had already coughed up
> > > > > some of that with two climbs left including the haul up to the
> > > > > Plateau. If he had been able to maintain contact with the
> > > > > front group he'd have had a chance. But being dropped at that
> > > > > stage of the race meant it was over for him.
>
> > > > > He looked to be near death as he came by.
>
> > > > > It turned out to be a good spot to see the race because one
> > > > > of the Tour sponsors had set up a private tent complete with a
> > > > > jumbotron. We didn't have access to the tent but there were no
> > > > > bad views of the jumbotron. Once the race went through there
> > > > > was a pretty large crowd in front of the massive screen.
>
> > > > > Lance ground up the lead group into andouillette to take the
> > > > > stage and yellow. All that remained was to wait for the clock
> > > > > to deliver the final blow to the fading Voeckler.
>
> > > > > Voeckler appeared with most of his lead having passed into
> > > > > memory. There are moments that you remember from the Tour and
> > > > > for me one of them is the roar that came as Voeckler sprinted
> > > > > for the finish line to save his yellow jersey by seconds. I
> > > > > don't know where he got that. The guy that had passed through
> > > > > earlier was not capable of it.
>
> > > > > This year's Stage 14 follows the same route from Saint-Gaudens
> > > > > to Plateau de Beille. And Voeckler is poised to make it another
> > > > > heroic day. I'll be cheering for him. He didn't win, but he
> > > > > rode with courage.
>
> > > > > F
>
> > > > Time for my annual post of the Mon Tour de France a Moi video:http://www.wat.tv/video/mon-tour-france-par-thomas-qrbe_2h0s9_.html
> > > > Two years ago, I posted it right before his first TdF stage win. But
> > > > now, it no longer applies at all, as this year, he's in the leading
> > > > group doing late solo attacks. It's kind of late to post, but I felt
> > > > that he was up to something today when I saw that he didn't attack
> > > > yesterday in the final climb. By the way, that Plouay win is still
> > > > amazing, his first big victory and when he stopped being "le petit
> > > > francais" and became a serious rider.
>
> > > Yep, that was a memorable stage.  I fell in love with the guy after he
> > > was dropped like four or five times, and kept clawing his way back.  I
> > > remember thinking they'd have to shoot the guy and beat him with clubs
> > > to keep him down.  Guy's got heart.
>
> > > R
>
> > I'm actually more impressed with him now that he's racing better. In
> > 2004 he was doing that yo-yoing off the back which is just too
> > annyoing. I hope he won't do it this year. I also don't quite
> > understand the practice of these French guys to bury themselves to
> > keep the yellow jersey just one more day. I don't believe in
> > "panache", Speaking of which, I'm truly enjoying my time away from
> > France :).
>
> > -ilan- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Did you see how he outran the Peleton after that big crash?  Kloden
> was probably the only guy keeping up with his pace at that point.
> After Voekler's amazing surge, Hushovd just gave up and started
> lagging the peleton.
>
> ;-)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Reminds me of Contadour '10. The tactics of champions.

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TOPIC: Johnny Hoogerland (Viewer Discretion Advised)
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/32a03f633947e783?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 12 2011 8:20 am
From: thirty-six


On Jul 12, 2:14 pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jul 10, 4:17 pm, Zenon <zenon_jask...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >http://www.grassyknolltv.com/2011/tour-de-france/photos/stage-09/242-...
>
> > There is no way that he's starting after the rest day.
>
> Where there's a will, there's a way.  Inspiring guy.  Doesn't look
> like a tough guy, but he most fucking obviously is.  And a classy
> guy.  I'm his new fanboi.
>
> R

You don't get to this level on easy rides all your life, of course
he's tough. It's an iodine wash followed by superglue backed up with
Scotch tape stitches if either of the two top wounds are deep enough.
A local rub with 'white spirit' will remove the sting sufficiently to
sleep and to get off the start line.

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TOPIC: british dumbasses ...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/92a855dbb2965a07?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 12 2011 9:05 am
From: Uncle Dave


On Jul 12, 12:46 pm, ilan <ilan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 12, 9:15 am, Bob Martin <bob.mar...@excite.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > in 656390 20110711 133951 Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >On Jul 9, 7:52=A0am, RicodJour <ricodj...@aol.com> wrote:
> > >> On Jul 9, 4:50=A0am, Amit Ghosh <amit.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> > On Jul 4, 10:26=A0pm, "A. Dumas" <alexan...@dumas.fr.invalid> wrote:
>
> > >> > > Amit Ghosh wrote:
> > >> > > > are there any pubs in London that are showing the tour ?
>
> > >> > >http://www.lookmumnohands.com/
>
> > >> > dutch dumbass,
>
> > >> > thanks. i walked by yesterday ... i little to much of a indie beer &
> > >> > brooks saddles crowd, but i might catch today's stage there.
>
> > >> Wait - you walked by the Williamsburg section of Brooklyn? =A0I thought
> > >> you were asking about London.
>
> > >> And why weren't you riding? =A0Tsk, tsk, tsk.
>
> > >> R
>
> > >The stupid twats in London drive on the wrong side of the road so it's
> > >a little disconcerting to have cars pass on the right.  Couple that
> > >with their lousy - practically non-existent celebration of July 4th
> > >and their penchant for buggery, mushy peas and faggots - it's really
> > >no place to visit.
>
> > Not sure about the "wrong" side of the road.
> > ISTR reading that more people drive on the left than on the right
> > (think UK, Japan, Aus, NZ, SA, India etc)
> > And did you know that French trains run on the left?
>
> The Tour will pass on the only road in France where people drive on
> the left.

Every time I go there they seem to drive on whichever side takes their
fancy. Which reminds me, remember this classic? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUfIvpzvjwQ

UD

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TOPIC: 2011 TDF Crash fest. No dead yet.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/b6d3691accf66d52?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 12 2011 9:11 am
From: Jimmy July


On 07/11/2011 12:08 PM, rick-paulos@uiowa.edu wrote:
> The tour has a considerable history of riders, drivers and fans
> getting killed during the event. Despite the numerous nasty crashes,
> no reports of anyone dead this year. Yet.
>

I like you! Keep the insightful analysis coming!

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TOPIC: French TV reporters car and occupants shown on ITV4!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/2e5ad09b7773df1c?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 12 2011 9:14 am
From: Jimmy July


On 07/11/2011 02:53 PM, atriage wrote:
> On 11/07/2011 22:01, atriage wrote:
>> On 11/07/2011 20:48, RicodJour wrote:
>>> On Jul 11, 3:20 pm, atriage<atri...@satriage.net> wrote:
>>>> On 11/07/2011 19:58, atriage wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/07/2011 16:16, rpm120 wrote:
>>>>>> On Jul 11, 6:05 am, Anton Berlin<truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 11, 7:56 am, RicodJour<ricodj...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jul 11, 2:42 am, rpm120<wjgreenw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Highlights of this stage on British TV (ITV4) had a scene where
>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> caught up to the car and driver that caused the accident.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The French TV reporters car was backing into a parking space
>>>>>>>>> for press
>>>>>>>>> vehicles after the race. All the occupants were shielding their
>>>>>>>>> faces.
>>>>>>>>> The driver was…wait for it…a young women!
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maybe there is a reason former pro's who actually raced the
>>>>>>>>> Tour are
>>>>>>>>> hired as drivers?
>>>>
>>>>>>>> I couldn't find that video. Post a link to it. I've also read
>>>>>>>> reports that someone from the ASO made a point of saying it was
>>>>>>>> a man
>>>>>>>> driving.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> R
>>>>
>>>>>>> They might have done a switcharoo knowing that a woman wouldn't get
>>>>>>> the shit beat out of her.
>>>>
>>>>>> True, they might have switched. The front passenger was hiding like a
>>>>>> man being hauled away by the police.
>>>>>> You might be able to watch the same Stage 9 highlights here:
>>>>>> http://www.itv.com/itv4/
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah I've just seen it, the passenger looked like a woman and the
>>>>> driver a man
>>>>> but of course that was later and the commentary team didn't know
>>>>> which one was
>>>>> driving at the time. The woman looked like she was in tears...I
>>>>> suspect she
>>>>> already knew some serious shit was about to hit the fan.
>>>>
>>>> Cancel that, I've just watched it in slo-mo on the ITV player...both
>>>> the
>>>> occupants were definitely men. Here's the link for anyone
>>>> WGAS.http://www.itv.com/itvplayer/video/?Filter=254650&module=most-watched...
>>>>
>>>
>>> I can't get that to play. Does ITV limit playback to the eurozone or
>>> something?
>>>
>> Probably just England, it's done on "a need to know basis" :) I'll try
>> and post
>> a screen grab tomorrow.
>
> A bad day for male chauvinism
> http://s1121.photobucket.com/home/atriage/index
>

These pictures prove that the driver was either male, female or The Loch
Ness Monster. Big Foot is ruled out, as pictures of him are invariably
clearer than this.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 12 2011 9:56 am
From: RicodJour


On Jul 12, 7:01 am, Uncle Dave <davidco...@t-online.de> wrote:
> On Jul 12, 1:31 am, "Steve Freides" <st...@kbnj.com> wrote:
>
> > I love Phil Liggett - insulting him is like insulting Kermit the Frog or
> > something - how could you?
>
> Because he's a rubbish commentator?  He has done a lot of good work
> for cycling in the UK in other capacities but commentating is not one
> of them.  I got fed up with watching when he missed just about every
> significant move.

That gives you an opportunity to clap yourself on the back for
catching stuff he missed.

> At least Dave Duffild was waxing lyrical about
> something interesting like the local wine when he missed stuff.

I think it's great that you feel secure enough in your own body to
enjoy some guy waxing.

> Liggett is so far up the yanks' arses that he's usually prattling on
> about somebody's granny in Montana getting up early specially to watch
> the race.  Why can't he just be British?!

There's no future in it.

R

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TOPIC: team rwanda
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/d57803ce8e7e8310?hl=en
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Date: Tues, Jul 12 2011 9:18 am
From: Jim Feeley


"rick-paulos@uiowa.edu" <rick-paulos@uiowa.edu> wrote:

> On Jul 11, 12:53 pm, Choppy Warburton <choppywarbur...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>> On Jul 11, 12:18 pm, Ben Trovato <benn.trov...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > The current _New Yorker_ has an article on bike racing in Rwanda.  If
>> behind the pay wall - modern term for "unread"
>
> The article is worth paying for at your local newstand.

It's in my pile of unread New Yorker magazines...

Another good article on Boyer appeared in Bicycling Magazine a couple years ago.
Here's a version on the web without pictures:

The Impossible Redemption of Jonathan Boyer
Does the best thing you do in your life make up for the worst thing you've ever
done? This cycling hero--and convicted felon--might get closer to an answer than
any of us.
By Steve Friedman

<http://www.tourdefranceinformation.com/article/0,6610,s1-3-9-18493-1-P,00.html>

I recall this being a much more thoughtful article than I expected...

--
Jim
Jim Feeley
POV Media


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TOPIC: WWLD
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/1814b47671c50717?hl=en
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Date: Tues, Jul 12 2011 9:31 am
From: Dumbass


Lance would have let Schleck catch up last year after his chain came
off.

Lance had class.

(Or, at least, Lance knew when one had to take a loss to fake having
class.)


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