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[socialactionfoundationforequity:11715 Baby’s death in womb: Surgeon, two others found guilty

Baby's death in womb: Surgeon, two others found guilty
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[socialactionfoundationforequity:11715 Uttar Pradesh plans ponds for animals along highway

Uttar Pradesh plans ponds for animals along highway
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[socialactionfoundationforequity:11715 Mums play key role in convincing daughters to receive HPV vaccine

Mums play key role in convincing daughters to receive HPV vaccine
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/health/mums-play-key-role-in-convincing-daughters-to-receive-hpv-vaccine_100482659.html

Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:45:13 PM by ANI

Washington, Jan 4 (ANI): New research has suggested that mothers can
play a key role in convincing college-aged women to receive the human
papillomavirus (HPV) vaccine, intended to prevent the most common
sexually transmitted infection.

The study found that young women were more likely to say they had
received the HPV vaccine if they had talked to their mother about it.

"Mothers talking to their daughters were an important factor in
whether young women were vaccinated," said Janice Krieger, lead author
of the study and assistant professor of communication at Ohio State
University.

Many mothers and daughters may be uncomfortable talking about the HPV
vaccine, because it is designed to prevent the spread of a sexually
transmitted virus, Krieger said.

But regardless of the difficulty in talking about it, the vaccine is
important because a persistent HPV infection may cause cancer.

The exploratory research involved 182 mother-daughter pairs. All of
the daughters were college students, with an average age of 20.

The daughters mailed a questionnaire about the HPV vaccine to their
mothers, and completed a similar questionnaire for themselves.

Overall, 137 of the mother-daughter pairs had talked about the HPV
vaccine, and 45 pairs reporting not discussing the vaccine.

Results showed that the key for daughters getting the vaccine was
having mothers who discussed the HPV vaccine with their daughter and
who reported believing that the vaccine was safe and effective in
preventing HPV-related diseases.

The study appeared in the January 2011 issue of the journal Human
Communication Research. (ANI)

[socialactionfoundationforequity:11715 How wine glasses indicate social shifts in ancient Greece over 500yrs

How wine glasses indicate social shifts in ancient Greece over 500yrs
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[socialactionfoundationforequity:11715 Goa governor skips RTI hearing

Goa governor skips RTI hearing
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[socialactionfoundationforequity:11715 Break silence, face probe, Iyer tells ex-CJI

Break silence, face probe, Iyer tells ex-CJI
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[socialactionfoundationforequity:11715 Ohio boy charged for killing his mother

Ohio boy charged for killing his mother
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[socialactionfoundationforequity:11715 Obama reads “role model” Ronald Reagan’s biography on holiday

Obama reads "role model" Ronald Reagan's biography on holiday
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[socialactionfoundationforequity:11715 Converts to Islam double in Britain, says study

Converts to Islam double in Britain, says study
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[socialactionfoundationforequity:11715 'Sexually harassed' woman stabs Purnea MLA to death

'Sexually harassed' woman stabs Purnea MLA to death
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[socialactionfoundationforequity:11715 Events - Welcome to Creative Thinkers International

Events - Welcome to Creative Thinkers International
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[socialactionfoundationforequity:11715 Gulf businessman to raise NRI issues at Pravasi meet

Gulf businessman to raise NRI issues at Pravasi meet
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[socialactionfoundationforequity:11715 The Columbus Dispatch

The Columbus Dispatch
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Sound plan | The Columbus Dispatch
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[socialactionfoundationforequity:11714 06 Child Trafficking Gateway 154 - Child Labour

--- On Mon, 3/1/11, childtrafficking.com@tdh.ch <childtrafficking.com@tdh.ch> wrote:

From: childtrafficking.com@tdh.ch <childtrafficking.com@tdh.ch>
Subject: 06 Child Trafficking Gateway 154 - Child Labour
To:
Date: Monday, 3 January, 2011, 15:01

Dear friends and colleagues

We have again updated the digital library http://www.childtrafficking.com and the update includes seven documents dealing with child labour.

Children-Women in Social Service and Human Rights (CWISH). (2010). The Invisible Workers: A Survey Report on Domestic Worker's Situation in Kathmandu – 2009. 94 p. Domestic Workers are less counted labor sector in global and Nepali society. In spite of their presence with more than 150 thousand all over the country, their work is not counted in the national economy, neither they are provided state protection by law and nor their situation have been interrogated seriously. However there are some studies with concentration on child domestic workers, the overall study of domestic workers has not been counted and this study is the first such kind of study in Nepal."http://www.childtrafficking.com/Docs/cwish_09_invisible_rep_0710.pdf

Children-Women in Social Service and Human Rights (CWISH). (2010).Together on Ending Slavery. 95 p. " The report is produced with the aim to inform and educate stakeholders about the Nepali children's and actors' perspective on the elimination of worst from of child labor with special focus on child domestic labor. Therefore this report is intended to policy makers, researchers, programmers and advocates on child labor field." http://www.childtrafficking.com/Docs/cwish_09_proceeding_child_0710.pdf

Groot, Afke de. (2010).Child Labour in Kathmandu, Nepal. 89 p. "One would have expected that the breakthrough of Convention 182 would have led to a significant amount of new studies and (non-)governmental action aimed at the elimination of the worst forms of child labour worldwide. In many countries, however, interventions designed for those children working under hazardous conditions and thus whose needs are most pressing, are lacking. There seems to be significantly fewer NGO activities for children who find themselves in the worst forms of child labour as defined by ILO Convention 182 [IREWOC 2005]. This relative absence of pro-active policies is paralleled by a lack of information." http://www.childtrafficking.com/Docs/groot_10_child_ktm_nepal_1210.pdf

Human Rights Watch (2010). Fields of Peril: Child Labor in US Agriculture. 96 p. "Hundreds of thousands of children under age 18 are working in agriculture in the United States. But under a double standard in US federal law, children can toil in the fields at far younger ages, for far longer hours, and under far more hazardous conditions than all other working children. For too many of these children, farmwork means an early end to childhood, long hours at exploitative wages, and risk to their health and sometimes their lives. Although their families' financial need helps push children into the fields—poverty among farmworkers is more than double that of all wage and salary employees—the long hours and demands of farmwork result in high drop-out rates from school. Without a diploma, child workers are left with few options besides a lifetime of farmwork and the poverty that accompanies it." http://www.childtrafficking.com/Docs/hrw_10_fields_peril_1210.pdf

Human Rights Watch. (2010). "Hellish Work: Exploitation of Migrant Tobacco Workers in Kazakhstan".116 p. "International and Kazakhstani law prohibits the employment of children under the age of eighteen in harmful or hazardous work; Kazakhstani law explicitly prohibits employment of children in tobacco farming. Owing to the difficulty of the work and the risks associated with the handling of tobacco leaves and exposure to pesticides, experts agree that tobacco farming is one of the worst forms of child labor, or labor from which children under 18 are categorically prohibited." http://www.childtrafficking.com/Docs/hrw_10_hellish_work_1210.pdf
International Labour Organization. (ILO). (2010). Roadmap for Achieving the Elimination of the Worst Forms of Child Labour by 2016. 8 p. This is the outcome document from the Global Child Labour conference that took place in the Hague in May 2010. http://www.childtrafficking.com/Docs/ilo_10_roadmap_achieving_1210.pdf

International Labour Organization. (ILO). (2010). Accelerating Action Against Child Labour. 81 p. "The focus of this third Global Report on child labour under the follow-up to the ILO Declaration on Fundamental Principles and Rights at Work is about honouring the commitments made in 2006 with the adoption of a Global Action Plan. The Action Plan set out time-bound targets for the elimination of child labour. Important obligations and commitments were entered into by ILO constituents. Four years is a short time to ensure major change, but it does, however, permit the Organization to take stock and gauge progress. In particular we need to know whether the world is on track to meeting the target of eliminating all the worst forms of child labour by 2016." http://www.childtrafficking.com/Docs/ilo_10_accelerating_child_labour_1210.pdf

All comments and suggestions for improvement are welcome. If you know of any relevant new sources, or other interested parties who may wish to be added to the list, please contact us. We are also very interested to receive documents and research from the field.

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Regards

Muna Basnyat
Regional Anti – Trafficking Adviser
Terre des hommes Foundation
Kathmandu, Nepal

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alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets - 26 new messages in 9 topics - digest

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TOPIC: Fat Bastard blew Bert Favre
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 3 2011 10:22 pm
From: DIet Plan <1of9@kaxy.com>

On Jan 4, 12:50 am, DIet Plan <1...@kaxy.com> wrote:
> .

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TOPIC: Masseuses sue Jets, Brett Favre
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== 1 of 13 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 4 2011 5:19 am
From: Rotalius Jephersun

Does it ever end with this club?
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5985582

== 2 of 13 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 4 2011 5:23 am
From: Smithee

On Jan 4, 8:19 am, Rotalius Jephersun <RR...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Does it ever end with this club?http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5985582

I don't think so... now Rex is now saying that the Jets playing the
Colts is "personal." I know his players supposedly love playing for
him but, man oh man...

== 3 of 13 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 4 2011 5:30 am
From: cloud dreamer

On 04/01/2011 9:53 AM, Smithee wrote:
> On Jan 4, 8:19 am, Rotalius Jephersun<RR...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Does it ever end with this club?http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5985582
>
> I don't think so... now Rex is now saying that the Jets playing the
> Colts is "personal." I know his players supposedly love playing for
> him but, man oh man...

It's personal alright. If he goes one and done, he risks being
personally out of the job...maybe not this year, but next if he falters
again.

;]

--
We must change the way we live
Or the climate will do it for us

== 4 of 13 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 4 2011 6:03 am
From: "yoyodog"

"cloud dreamer" <Save@Resources.now> wrote in message
news:Bb-dnRqtZYd6vb7QnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@supernews.com...
> On 04/01/2011 9:53 AM, Smithee wrote:
>> On Jan 4, 8:19 am, Rotalius Jephersun<RR...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Does it ever end with this
>>> club?http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5985582
>>
>> I don't think so... now Rex is now saying that the Jets playing the
>> Colts is "personal." I know his players supposedly love playing for
>> him but, man oh man...
>
>
> It's personal alright. If he goes one and done, he risks being personally
> out of the job...maybe not this year, but next if he falters again.
>
> ;]
>
> --
> We must change the way we live
> Or the climate will do it for us

To all 3 of you (cloud dreamer, Smithee, Rotalius Jephersun) new or rare
posters... in your dreams, in your dreams...

== 5 of 13 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 4 2011 6:11 am
From: John C TX

X-No-Archive: Yes

> >> On Jan 4, 8:19 am, Rotalius Jephersun<RR...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Does it ever end with this
> >>> club?http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5985582
>
> >> I don't think so... now Rex is now saying that the Jets playing the
> >> Colts is "personal." I know his players supposedly love playing for
> >> him but, man oh man...
>
> > It's personal alright. If he goes one and done, he risks being personally
> > out of the job...maybe not this year, but next if he falters again.
>
> > ;]
>
> > --
> > We must change the way we live
> > Or the climate will do it for us
>
> To all 3 of you (cloud dreamer, Smithee, Rotalius Jephersun) new or rare
> posters... in your dreams, in your dreams...

Yo, smithee is a Pats guy (gal) and outside of his man (gal) love for
BB is an OK fan but jumping in here on something our ex-QB did sets
off the douche bag alarm.

== 6 of 13 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 4 2011 6:26 am
From: "Ray O'Hara"

"yoyodog" <NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ifv9e3$mjp$1@news.datemas.de...
>
> "cloud dreamer" <Save@Resources.now> wrote in message
> news:Bb-dnRqtZYd6vb7QnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@supernews.com...
>> On 04/01/2011 9:53 AM, Smithee wrote:
>>> On Jan 4, 8:19 am, Rotalius Jephersun<RR...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Does it ever end with this
>>>> club?http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5985582
>>>
>>> I don't think so... now Rex is now saying that the Jets playing the
>>> Colts is "personal." I know his players supposedly love playing for
>>> him but, man oh man...
>>
>>
>> It's personal alright. If he goes one and done, he risks being personally
>> out of the job...maybe not this year, but next if he falters again.
>>
>> ;]
>>
>> --
>> We must change the way we live
>> Or the climate will do it for us
>
>
> To all 3 of you (cloud dreamer, Smithee, Rotalius Jephersun) new or rare
> posters... in your dreams, in your dreams...
>

Mangenius anyone/

== 7 of 13 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 4 2011 6:40 am
From: "yoyodog"

"John C TX" <johnctxjets@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:25f1ff41-baf8-4512-910a-c2f8c6f2d369@p7g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
X-No-Archive: Yes

> >> On Jan 4, 8:19 am, Rotalius Jephersun<RR...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Does it ever end with this
> >>> club?http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5985582
>
> >> I don't think so... now Rex is now saying that the Jets playing the
> >> Colts is "personal." I know his players supposedly love playing for
> >> him but, man oh man...
>
> > It's personal alright. If he goes one and done, he risks being
> > personally
> > out of the job...maybe not this year, but next if he falters again.
>
> > ;]
>
> > --
> > We must change the way we live
> > Or the climate will do it for us
>
> To all 3 of you (cloud dreamer, Smithee, Rotalius Jephersun) new or rare
> posters... in your dreams, in your dreams...

>>Yo, smithee is a Pats guy (gal) and outside of his man (gal) love for
BB is an OK fan but jumping in here on something our ex-QB did sets
off the douche bag alarm.

He (she) is still a pretty rare poster here. But I understand the Pats fans
fear of Rex. First legitimate threat to BB and the Pats in years. After
all, if Rex didn't come here to kiss BB's rings, BB isn't staying in
coaching to kiss Rex's feet, though Rex would LOVE that ;-)

== 8 of 13 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 4 2011 6:49 am
From: Ritchie

On Jan 4, 8:30 am, cloud dreamer <S...@Resources.now> wrote:
> It's personal alright. If he goes one and done, he risks being
> personally out of the job...maybe not this year, but next if he falters
> again.

Wishful thinking, Ryan (to my disappointment) is here for the long
haul.

== 9 of 13 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 4 2011 6:53 am
From: Ritchie

On Jan 4, 9:40 am, "yoyodog" <NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> BB is an OK fan but jumping in here on something our ex-QB did sets
> off the douche bag alarm.
>
> He (she) is still a pretty rare poster here. But I understand the Pats fans
> fear of Rex. First legitimate threat to BB and the Pats in years. After
> all, if Rex didn't come here to kiss BB's rings, BB isn't staying in
> coaching to kiss Rex's feet, though Rex would LOVE that

Do you really think that the pats, their fans or Belichick think of
Ryan as a threat? I dont think Belichick even considers Ryan or the
Jets good enough to do his laundry. I am a Jet fan, but a realistic
one.

== 10 of 13 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 4 2011 7:03 am
From: John C TX

X-No-Archive: Yes

> > BB is an OK fan but jumping in here on something our ex-QB did sets
> > off the douche bag alarm.
>
> > He (she) is still a pretty rare poster here. But I understand the Pats fans
> > fear of Rex. First legitimate threat to BB and the Pats in years. After
> > all, if Rex didn't come here to kiss BB's rings, BB isn't staying in
> > coaching to kiss Rex's feet, though Rex would LOVE that
>
> Do you really think that the pats, their fans or Belichick think of
> Ryan as a threat? I dont think Belichick even considers Ryan or the
> Jets good enough to do his laundry. I am a Jet fan, but a realistic
> one.

Ritchie, I like him overall. He is a good coach & the first since
Parcells. I think there have been some distractions this year -- on
the field--and he has been putting out fires. I don't think he trusts
his OC & gets involved leaving Pettine to run the defense hurting us
on both sides of the ball.

Next year is the big year for him and it will be related to the salary
cap & signing: Edwards, Holmes, Smith, & Cromartie.

== 11 of 13 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 4 2011 7:21 am
From: eric

On Jan 4, 9:53 am, Ritchie <ritchie1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 4, 9:40 am, "yoyodog" <NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > BB is an OK fan but jumping in here on something our ex-QB did sets
> > off the douche bag alarm.
>
> > He (she) is still a pretty rare poster here. But I understand the Pats fans
> > fear of Rex. First legitimate threat to BB and the Pats in years. After
> > all, if Rex didn't come here to kiss BB's rings, BB isn't staying in
> > coaching to kiss Rex's feet, though Rex would LOVE that
>
> Do you really think that the pats, their fans or Belichick think of
> Ryan as a threat? I dont think Belichick even considers Ryan or the
> Jets good enough to do his laundry. I am a Jet fan, but a realistic
> one.

Initially it seemed like Ryan was going in the right direction, but as
time has gone by it has become more and more apparent that he is just
an over-inflated windbag. I would say that given his personal behavior
sooner or later he's going to do something that is going to so deeply
disgust people he will be fired before ownership gets tired of waiting
for a championship.

== 12 of 13 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 4 2011 7:31 am
From: Ritchie

On Jan 4, 10:21 am, eric <warth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Initially it seemed like Ryan was going in the right direction, but as
> time has gone by it has become more and more apparent that he is just
> an over-inflated windbag. I would say that given his personal behavior
> sooner or later he's going to do something that is going to so deeply
> disgust people he will be fired before ownership gets tired of waiting
> for a championship.

I agree, his type always do themselves in. He will do or say something
that wont be liked at all and Woody will have no choice but to fire
him. What scares me with that is that if Schott is still here when
that happens and knowing Woody's love affair with Schott, he will me
made the HC.

== 13 of 13 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 4 2011 7:41 am
From: Ritchie

On Jan 4, 10:03 am, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> X-No-Archive: Yes
>
> > > BB is an OK fan but jumping in here on something our ex-QB did sets
> > > off the douche bag alarm.
>
> > > He (she) is still a pretty rare poster here. But I understand the Pats fans
> > > fear of Rex. First legitimate threat to BB and the Pats in years. After
> > > all, if Rex didn't come here to kiss BB's rings, BB isn't staying in
> > > coaching to kiss Rex's feet, though Rex would LOVE that
>
> > Do you really think that the pats, their fans or Belichick think of
> > Ryan as a threat? I dont think Belichick even considers Ryan or the
> > Jets good enough to do his laundry. I am a Jet fan, but a realistic
> > one.
>
> Ritchie, I like him overall. He is a good coach & the first since
> Parcells. I think there have been some distractions this year -- on
> the field--and he has been putting out fires. I don't think he trusts
> his OC & gets involved leaving Pettine to run the defense hurting us
> on both sides of the ball.

Personally I think he doesn't get involved at all with the offense. A
few weeks ago he stated that he had a meeting with Sanchez for the
first time this season and that was about 9 or 10 weeks into the
season. That is something that coaches do on a regular, most likely
weekly basis with their QB's. Belichick is a defensive genius but even
he and Brady break down film together (don't know if its the game
films or the secretly taped ones though) over the course of the
season. Ryan, IMO is in over his head just like his dad was when he
became a HC. Buddy was a defensive genius but a horrible HC. I think
that Ryan is no where near as good as his dad was and has bitten off
more than he can chew just like his dad did.

> Next year is the big year for him and it will be related to the salary
> cap & signing: Edwards, Holmes, Smith, & Cromartie.

Yes next year (sigh) will be the test, if there is a season that is.

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 4 2011 5:50 am
From: "papa.carl44"

"buRford" <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
news:t3e5i653vlqgl2u09664a31699cc4gln2e@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 22:34:50 -0500, "papa.carl44"
> <papadotcarl@nospamverizon.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"buRford" <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
>>news:7ls4i6lfu7sf0tatp3be77s4otdu0apslp@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:34:37 -0500, "papa.carl44"
>>> <papadotcarl@nospamverizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"buRford" <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:o5d3i6d3lm76c0vj2arlqfguap2fp5pmaa@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 00:05:17 -0500, "papa.carl44"
>>>>> <papadotcarl@nospamverizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"buRford" <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:5sf2i6to9nsi0hqjvnde3fv8lmcegs33up@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> Would love to see Shonn get the number of carries McKnight had
>>>>>>> today...
>>>>>>> just once this
>>>>>>> season. I loved the pick up of LT, but that was with the thinking
>>>>>>> they'd
>>>>>>> give Shonn a
>>>>>>> chance to shine.
>>>>>>> I want to see Shonn start next week. That will mean to me that the
>>>>>>> CS
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> serious about
>>>>>>> winning.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>LT surprised me early on...lately he looks tired, and changing up
>>>>>>runners
>>>>>>can create an advantage so I think starting Greene, let LT come in on
>>>>>>passing downs and in an empty backfield...and let McKnight try some
>>>>>>stuff...their defense has some injuries...it needs to be hit with more
>>>>>>than
>>>>>>it can think about.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's funny, I expected LT to play well, but I never expected (silly
>>>>> me)
>>>>> that they'd pretty
>>>>> much never give Shonn a chance, as the feature back.
>>>>> I'm hopin' that next week we'll finally see him start, but alas, I
>>>>> aint
>>>>> holdin' my breath
>>>>> ;)
>>>>
>>>>I expected to see LT as the featured back...to me, it fit in with the
>>>>Favre
>>>>deal and what I still think Woody likes...a big name and splash. I'm
>>>>very
>>>>pleased Greene didn't break, that was my fear with him. I'd still like
>>>>to
>>>>have had TJ on the team. I love that type of runner.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yup, my concern about Shonn, was the injury thing too.
>>> Of course, he hasn't really been pushed, but he has relieved some
>>> concerns.
>>
>>I guess we don't really know because he just didn't play that much...not
>>like the every down type back. But also, we don't know if he is the kind
>>of
>>guy who will simply get better and better with more carries and gets into
>>a
>>rhythm. Perhaps the coaches could not see that in any practice
>>situations.
>>I still like the TJ type guy...along with some outside type
>>speedsters...the
>>league is such now that you benefit from some different type runners. BB
>>is
>>very good at making that happen, and he uses guys according to their
>>talents
>>and abilities. I just feel like there are so many wasted downs with the
>>Jets at times, plays called where you knew it wasn't going anywhere, we
>>don't really know what they could do given the right situation.
>>
>
> That's probably the most frustrating thing, because given some creative
> play-calling, I
> think the offensive mix of talent could really provide a DC, with a
> handful.
> If we beat the Colts, I'd really like to see Schott have two separate
> gameplans, for the
> Pats. BB adjusts well after the half, so have a complete change of
> philosophy waiting for
> him ;)

To me it is simple...what happened to ground and pound, beating up the
defensive line?

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 4 2011 6:05 am
From: buRford

On Tue, 4 Jan 2011 08:50:17 -0500, "papa.carl44" <papadotcarl@nospamverizon.net> wrote:

>
>"buRford" <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
>news:t3e5i653vlqgl2u09664a31699cc4gln2e@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 22:34:50 -0500, "papa.carl44"
>> <papadotcarl@nospamverizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"buRford" <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
>>>news:7ls4i6lfu7sf0tatp3be77s4otdu0apslp@4ax.com...
>>>> On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:34:37 -0500, "papa.carl44"
>>>> <papadotcarl@nospamverizon.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"buRford" <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:o5d3i6d3lm76c0vj2arlqfguap2fp5pmaa@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 00:05:17 -0500, "papa.carl44"
>>>>>> <papadotcarl@nospamverizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"buRford" <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:5sf2i6to9nsi0hqjvnde3fv8lmcegs33up@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>> Would love to see Shonn get the number of carries McKnight had
>>>>>>>> today...
>>>>>>>> just once this
>>>>>>>> season. I loved the pick up of LT, but that was with the thinking
>>>>>>>> they'd
>>>>>>>> give Shonn a
>>>>>>>> chance to shine.
>>>>>>>> I want to see Shonn start next week. That will mean to me that the
>>>>>>>> CS
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> serious about
>>>>>>>> winning.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>LT surprised me early on...lately he looks tired, and changing up
>>>>>>>runners
>>>>>>>can create an advantage so I think starting Greene, let LT come in on
>>>>>>>passing downs and in an empty backfield...and let McKnight try some
>>>>>>>stuff...their defense has some injuries...it needs to be hit with more
>>>>>>>than
>>>>>>>it can think about.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's funny, I expected LT to play well, but I never expected (silly
>>>>>> me)
>>>>>> that they'd pretty
>>>>>> much never give Shonn a chance, as the feature back.
>>>>>> I'm hopin' that next week we'll finally see him start, but alas, I
>>>>>> aint
>>>>>> holdin' my breath
>>>>>> ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>I expected to see LT as the featured back...to me, it fit in with the
>>>>>Favre
>>>>>deal and what I still think Woody likes...a big name and splash. I'm
>>>>>very
>>>>>pleased Greene didn't break, that was my fear with him. I'd still like
>>>>>to
>>>>>have had TJ on the team. I love that type of runner.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yup, my concern about Shonn, was the injury thing too.
>>>> Of course, he hasn't really been pushed, but he has relieved some
>>>> concerns.
>>>
>>>I guess we don't really know because he just didn't play that much...not
>>>like the every down type back. But also, we don't know if he is the kind
>>>of
>>>guy who will simply get better and better with more carries and gets into
>>>a
>>>rhythm. Perhaps the coaches could not see that in any practice
>>>situations.
>>>I still like the TJ type guy...along with some outside type
>>>speedsters...the
>>>league is such now that you benefit from some different type runners. BB
>>>is
>>>very good at making that happen, and he uses guys according to their
>>>talents
>>>and abilities. I just feel like there are so many wasted downs with the
>>>Jets at times, plays called where you knew it wasn't going anywhere, we
>>>don't really know what they could do given the right situation.
>>>
>>
>> That's probably the most frustrating thing, because given some creative
>> play-calling, I
>> think the offensive mix of talent could really provide a DC, with a
>> handful.
>> If we beat the Colts, I'd really like to see Schott have two separate
>> gameplans, for the
>> Pats. BB adjusts well after the half, so have a complete change of
>> philosophy waiting for
>> him ;)
>
>To me it is simple...what happened to ground and pound, beating up the
>defensive line?
>

Added a couple of talented players to the O mix. Too much for a certain OC to deal with
;)
Seriously, remember how the O started playing well, in games 2 & 3... Keller was a key
player. Then Holmes was activated, and the O fell apart... and Keller was ignored.
Instead of adding to the mix, it's like he came up with a formula... play LT this amount,
Holmes this amount, Shonn this amount... etc this amount. Rather than letting the
situation, game flow, etc dictate play selection/player set.
Certain games it makes sense to start LT, while others it makes sense to start Shonn.
Never happened.
The Colts are a Shonn team. Had he not been injured at the start of the 2nd half, in last
year's Champ game, we probably win. As soon as he was hurt, that was it.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 4 2011 6:07 am
From: "yoyodog"

"Michael" <mjd1966@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:4dd19898-ece3-4cc4-907e-6c30ea6c5249@n10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Former-Jets-massage-therapists-sue-Brett-Favre-sexual-harassment-010311
>
> Sounds like things are being just a tad bit embellished for the sake
> of their legal paper
>
>
>
> "Favre "responded in an inappropriate manner and refused to
> apologize," the filing says.
>
> "He essentially told him to go away and as a celebrity he couldn't be
> bothered with the little people," said the therapists' lawyer, David
> Jarosclawicz."
>

The only reason for the action to sue him is to force him, under oath, to
admit he sent these messages and thus embarrass him.

Well that and the possibility that he ponies up a few bucks to make it all
go away ;-)

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 4 2011 6:09 am
From: buRford

On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 10:20:18 -0800 (PST), "IndyJetsFan@gmail.com" <indyjetsfan@gmail.com>
wrote:

>If anyone is going to Indy for the game and needs any info about the
>city, let me know. It would be nice to meet any fellow Jets fans. I've
>been reading your posts for several years. I live 20 minutes from
>Indy, and work on the westside. I'm originally from NJ.
>
>David

Nice offer, David.
Will you be going to the game?
And please feel free to participate... the more hte merrier ;)

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 4 2011 6:17 am
From: John C TX

X-No-Archive: Yes

> >If anyone is going to Indy for the game and needs any info about the
> >city, let me know. It would be nice to meet any fellow Jets fans. I've
> >been reading your posts for several years. I live 20 minutes from
> >Indy, and work on the westside. I'm originally from NJ.
>
> >David
>
> Nice offer, David.
> Will you be going to the game?
> And please feel free to participate... the more hte merrier ;)

Its teh, get it straight!

I thought the silveraware was better source of jokes. Hell, I even
expected the grouchy dago to turn up and make a comment.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 4 2011 6:14 am
From: John C TX

X-No-Archive: Yes

> I've been beggin' all year for Rex to use McKnight as a change of pace
> guy, and also some of the other DB's. I'm hoping that now he has enough
> confidence to start shuttling these guys in and out, to make Peyton, "I'm
> not doing enough commercials", Manning have to deal with additional bodies
> and tendencies. Let's face it, with no rush, they need to do something
> different or we'll need 40 to win.
>
JK, Warren Sapp sounded like Papa on Sunday saying that BB figured out
how to neutralize our CB's by working the middle.

He suggested moving both inside trusting the safeties & nickels to
cover. ??? Papa, our resident defensive expert do you have any
thoughts on this?

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 4 2011 6:15 am
From: "yoyodog"

"buRford" <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
news:8pu3i6t1pfdqqisofq5d5olu0th9hmiddh@4ax.com...
> Fired again.
> I wonder if anyone is gonna hire him for any position... or he'll be outta
> football?

I hear Joe Walton and Rich Kotite are looking for a DC to round out their CS
at the High School for Performing Arts Jayvees

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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 4 2011 6:32 am
From: Michael

On Jan 4, 12:45 am, "papa.carl44" <papadotc...@nospamverizon.net>
wrote:
> "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> news:e13609b7-27a2-45f9-aaec-f3b17f80a61c@z9g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 3, 11:37 pm, "papa.carl44" <papadotc...@nospamverizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:d8c84223-689f-41b2-a3db-4fef99c718b0@f8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jan 3, 10:38 pm, "papa.carl44" <papadotc...@nospamverizon.net>
> > wrote:
>
> > > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> > >news:3ee9cba1-f352-48f1-b2d2-0560457ccf85@l32g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> > > On Jan 3, 5:01 pm, "papa.carl44" <papadotc...@nospamverizon.net>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > "John C TX" <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote in
> > > > messagenews:446a256d-a6ff-4038-981e-c1a025510021@k22g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > > X-No-Archive: Yes
>
> > > > >> The thing with the Gulf Coast or any coast is a breeze...that does
> > > > >> not
> > > > >> happen in that summer midwest humidity till a twister comes.
>
> > > > > or in my case a hurricane & twisters..
>
> > > > > :)
>
> > > > So come on back North...move to Jersey and you can get it
> > > > all....hurricanes,
> > > > an occasional twister in Central Jersey, outrageous 100+ heat,
> > > > freezing
> > > > cold
> > > > with snow, ice and rain, congested highways, overcrowding everywhere,
> > > > crime,
> > > > troubled schools, some of the highest taxes in the country, if you
> > > > don't
> > > > like the weather, wait a day...and above all...The Jets. Oh....I
> > > > forgot
> > > > the
> > > > sink holes and bad air quality :-)
>
> > > and $10,000+ per year in property tax for a house about the size of a
> > > bread box
>
> > > ummm...I put highest taxes....BUT...we have the highest paid police
> > > force
> > > on
> > > the East Coast in my town...so Hah ! Another thing we forgot....lots and
> > > lots of brand new office and corporate parks / headquarters with nobody
> > > in
> > > them...just some great big money write offs. The State motto should be
> > > "Turning cornfields into condos and parks into parking lots....that's
> > > NJ."- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > good motto...
>
> > and... we should no longer be the "garden state"... change that to
> > "The Corrupt Shit Heel State"
>
> > I like, "You figure it out in the blizzard...I'm going to Disney World."
> > "So what if you don't have books to use, teach them something else."
> > Or...."If you can't afford the property taxes, sell it and move." Living
> > near and around a lot of the State offices can be very enlightening. Some
> > of the clowns who got jobs the last time around definitely fit your
> > suggestion....I love the "commisioners" who have ZERO experience in the
> > area
> > they are in charge of. Hey, I have a good idea...let's sell the Turnpike
> > !- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> yep... one pig greasing up the next one. and the nj state gov is
> light weight stuff in comparison to the fed. i'd be in favor of a few
> years of dictitorial government with the right guy as the dictator.
>
> The Enlightened Dictator....I think Dick Cheney is running for that
> job...except not the enlightened part. I actually think the State stuff is
> worse, maybe not as much waste, but total corruption is worse.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

the current state gov is merely the putrefaction that stats after
death. the killer infection started higher up the chain about 145
years ago. next stop, neo feudalism. complete with the lordship and
their noble knights all decked out in contemporary suits of shining
amour ready to go into the fields to keep the surfs in line.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 4 2011 6:33 am
From: John C TX

X-No-Archive: Yes

>
> > >> The thing with the Gulf Coast or any coast is a breeze...that does not
> > >> happen in that summer midwest humidity till a twister comes.
>
> > > or in my case a hurricane & twisters..
>
> > > :)
>
> > So come on back North...move to Jersey and you can get it
> > all....hurricanes,
> > an occasional twister in Central Jersey, outrageous 100+ heat, freezing
> > cold
> > with snow, ice and rain, congested highways, overcrowding everywhere,
> > crime,
> > troubled schools, some of the highest taxes in the country, if you don't
> > like the weather, wait a day...and above all...The Jets. Oh....I forgot
> > the
> > sink holes and bad air quality :-)
>
> and $10,000+ per year in property tax for a house about the size of a
> bread box
>
> ummm...I put highest taxes....BUT...we have the highest paid police force on
> the East Coast in my town...so Hah ! Another thing we forgot....lots and
> lots of brand new office and corporate parks / headquarters with nobody in
> them...just some great big money write offs. The State motto should be
> "Turning cornfields into condos and parks into parking lots....that's NJ."

Papa, our RE taxes are high, approximately 1.8%, & higher if it is a
rental property which screws renters, but no income tax but state corp
tax.

In college I had to read a book Fiscal Crisis of the State by a
Marxist named O'Connor. It was prescient. cops, fireman, teachers &
other civil servants making $80,000+ in retirement and this is a
sustainable model? So we have retirees making more money in
retirement than many kids will make in their careers.

It started after Watergate & like a snowball rolling down hill the
fiscal discipline to sustain govt has been obliterated by the need to
satisfy a larger & larger % of the populace, aka civil servants.
Neither party has the balls to deal with this.

The period of benevolent despots doesn't look bad right now.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 4 2011 6:40 am
From: Michael

On Jan 4, 9:33 am, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> X-No-Archive: Yes
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > >> The thing with the Gulf Coast or any coast is a breeze...that does not
> > > >> happen in that summer midwest humidity till a twister comes.
>
> > > > or in my case a hurricane & twisters..
>
> > > > :)
>
> > > So come on back North...move to Jersey and you can get it
> > > all....hurricanes,
> > > an occasional twister in Central Jersey, outrageous 100+ heat, freezing
> > > cold
> > > with snow, ice and rain, congested highways, overcrowding everywhere,
> > > crime,
> > > troubled schools, some of the highest taxes in the country, if you don't
> > > like the weather, wait a day...and above all...The Jets. Oh....I forgot
> > > the
> > > sink holes and bad air quality :-)
>
> > and $10,000+ per year in property tax for a house about the size of a
> > bread box
>
> > ummm...I put highest taxes....BUT...we have the highest paid police force on
> > the East Coast in my town...so Hah ! Another thing we forgot....lots and
> > lots of brand new office and corporate parks / headquarters with nobody in
> > them...just some great big money write offs. The State motto should be
> > "Turning cornfields into condos and parks into parking lots....that's NJ."
>
> Papa, our RE taxes are high, approximately 1.8%, & higher if it is a
> rental property which screws renters, but no income tax but state corp
> tax.
>
> In college I had to read a book Fiscal Crisis of the State by a
> Marxist named O'Connor. It was prescient. cops, fireman, teachers &
> other civil servants making $80,000+ in retirement and this is a
> sustainable model? So we have retirees making more money in
> retirement than many kids will make in their careers.
>
> It started after Watergate & like a snowball rolling down hill the
> fiscal discipline to sustain govt has been obliterated by the need to
> satisfy a larger & larger % of the populace, aka civil servants.
> Neither party has the balls to deal with this.
>
> The period of benevolent despots doesn't look bad right now.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

could not agree more. imho, other than digging up teddy roosevelt and
propping his corps up someplace, a few years of dictatorship looks
like the only way to clear things out. im wondering though, if nj's
own christie would make a good presedential ticket next time around
with may be rubio as vice. christie at least had the stones to get in
front the two most brutal unions.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 4 2011 7:18 am
From: John C TX

X-No-Archive: Yes
>
> > > > >> The thing with the Gulf Coast or any coast is a breeze...that does not
> > > > >> happen in that summer midwest humidity till a twister comes.
>
> > > > > or in my case a hurricane & twisters..
>
> > > > > :)
>
> > > > So come on back North...move to Jersey and you can get it
> > > > all....hurricanes,
> > > > an occasional twister in Central Jersey, outrageous 100+ heat, freezing
> > > > cold
> > > > with snow, ice and rain, congested highways, overcrowding everywhere,
> > > > crime,
> > > > troubled schools, some of the highest taxes in the country, if you don't
> > > > like the weather, wait a day...and above all...The Jets. Oh....I forgot
> > > > the
> > > > sink holes and bad air quality :-)
>
> > > and $10,000+ per year in property tax for a house about the size of a
> > > bread box
>
> > > ummm...I put highest taxes....BUT...we have the highest paid police force on
> > > the East Coast in my town...so Hah ! Another thing we forgot....lots and
> > > lots of brand new office and corporate parks / headquarters with nobody in
> > > them...just some great big money write offs. The State motto should be
> > > "Turning cornfields into condos and parks into parking lots....that's NJ."
>
> > Papa, our RE taxes are high, approximately 1.8%, & higher if it is a
> > rental property which screws renters, but no income tax but state corp
> > tax.
>
> > In college I had to read a book Fiscal Crisis of the State by a
> > Marxist named O'Connor. It was prescient. cops, fireman, teachers &
> > other civil servants making $80,000+ in retirement and this is a
> > sustainable model? So we have retirees making more money in
> > retirement than many kids will make in their careers.
>
> > It started after Watergate & like a snowball rolling down hill the
> > fiscal discipline to sustain govt has been obliterated by the need to
> > satisfy a larger & larger % of the populace, aka civil servants.
> > Neither party has the balls to deal with this.
>
> > The period of benevolent despots doesn't look bad right now.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> could not agree more. imho, other than digging up teddy roosevelt and
> propping his corps up someplace, a few years of dictatorship looks
> like the only way to clear things out. im wondering though, if nj's
> own christie would make a good presedential ticket next time around
> with may be rubio as vice. christie at least had the stones to get in
> front the two most brutal unions.

I am not up there and I don' know alll that Blumberg & Christie faced,
and Lee Brown was torched for staying away during riots so this isn't
new, but we have reached a level in this country where everything
should be fixed immediately. Sometimes no matter how much money is
thrown at a problem it can't be fixed immediately.

Christie went toe to toe with the unions, and in a rough economy that
plays well with most, it is when the $ are coming in that it takes the
strength to say no. There is trade off for the security that most
civil servants receive and that was forgotten by both sides. The
security disappears when the $ aren't there and the trade off for a
lower wage for the security was forgotten by the workers. If it means
paying a fair wage to the current schmoes doing the work & keeping
gov't going then I say legally push the pain to the pensioners that
are the biggest line item.

I could go one & on but the current system in many cities & states is
about creating pensioners & in law enforcement it is tossing guys out
when they are at the most valuable.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 4 2011 7:42 am
From: DIet Plan <1of9@kaxy.com>

On Jan 3, 1:59 pm, DIet Plan <1...@kaxy.com> wrote:
> On Jan 3, 10:04 am, DIet Plan <1...@kaxy.com> wrote:
>
> > .
>
> .

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