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* Quiet here? - 7 messages, 6 authors
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* BTW... in case anyone forgot/didn't know... - 7 messages, 5 authors
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* How the Jet CB's will be used... - 1 messages, 1 author
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* OT: Andrew Luck - 4 messages, 3 authors
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TOPIC: Quiet here?
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 6 2011 11:07 pm
From: Keith Keller
On 2011-01-07, JKConey <jkconey@verizon.net> wrote:
> I'm really shocked by the lack of chatter and trolling here this week? My
> guess is that they think Jets will win, and will wait to pounce if they
> don't? But isn't that what pratt and the rest do?
I have many of the trolls killfiled, so I haven't noticed a decrease in
traffic, if indeed they've taken a break.
--keith
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== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 1:17 am
From: Ian
On Jan 7, 4:29 am, "JKConey" <jkco...@verizon.net> wrote:
> I'm really shocked by the lack of chatter and trolling here this week? My
> guess is that they think Jets will win, and will wait to pounce if they
> don't? But isn't that what pratt and the rest do?
Quietly optimistic here.
I think the Jets *can* beat anyone in the playoffs. Last year seemed
an easier route than is presented this year. The Bengals, who we'd
crushed the week before, then the Chargers, 'norv said there ... and
then we came up against the *rested* Colts and Peyton picked us apart
in the 2nd half.
This year, the Colts are beaten up and apart from Leonard and Jenkins,
we've done OK, injury-wise. We can certainly win the first one, and
looking forw[ *** rest of post held back for obvious reasons *** ]
--
Percy Flage
Life's too short to have to explain everyday.
== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 5:43 am
From: buRford
On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 01:17:02 -0800 (PST), Ian <spuorgelgoog@ianwhitephoto.co.uk> wrote:
>On Jan 7, 4:29�am, "JKConey" <jkco...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> � I'm really shocked by the lack of chatter and trolling here this week? My
>> guess is that they think Jets will win, and will wait to pounce if they
>> don't? But isn't that what pratt and the rest do?
>
>Quietly optimistic here.
>
>I think the Jets *can* beat anyone in the playoffs. Last year seemed
>an easier route than is presented this year. The Bengals, who we'd
>crushed the week before, then the Chargers, 'norv said there ... and
>then we came up against the *rested* Colts and Peyton picked us apart
>in the 2nd half.
>
>This year, the Colts are beaten up and apart from Leonard and Jenkins,
>we've done OK, injury-wise. We can certainly win the first one, and
>looking forw[ *** rest of post held back for obvious reasons *** ]
Actually, what I find intriguing is the whole mindset that Rex gave the players... all the
talk about the Super Bowl, etc.
If the players have really bought into it, as they seem to have, then I expect the Jets to
play a great game. The one caveat being the gameplans chosen by the coaches.
For instance, to remain consistent... Will Schott continue the LT folly, or finally give
Shonn (the better rusher at present) the ball? Will Schott be aggressive, or tentative
with his playcalling? Will he have MS on the move? Will he be in *cute* mode?
While on D, will it be blitzin' or coverage, as main focus? Blitzin' from the edge, or up
the middle? Will they try to disguise coverage 'til the very last moment, or show their
hand? Of coourse, there's a middle ground, but Rex seems to go strongly, one way or the
other.
As for the trolls, I wouldn't read too much into anything. Seriously, it's difficult to
get into the *mind* of a troll... I mean, can you really imagine deciding to spend your
valuable time, going into another team's NG, and posting nonsense?
On the other hand, can you see these same *people*, decide to go to a sports bar filled
with opposing fans, and saying the nonsense they post anonymously in a NG?
They're all pussies.
== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 6:03 am
From: Tutor
On Jan 7, 8:43 am, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 01:17:02 -0800 (PST), Ian <spuorgelg...@ianwhitephoto.co.uk> wrote:
> >On Jan 7, 4:29 am, "JKConey" <jkco...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >> I'm really shocked by the lack of chatter and trolling here this week? My
> >> guess is that they think Jets will win, and will wait to pounce if they
> >> don't? But isn't that what pratt and the rest do?
>
> >Quietly optimistic here.
>
> >I think the Jets *can* beat anyone in the playoffs. Last year seemed
> >an easier route than is presented this year. The Bengals, who we'd
> >crushed the week before, then the Chargers, 'norv said there ... and
> >then we came up against the *rested* Colts and Peyton picked us apart
> >in the 2nd half.
>
> >This year, the Colts are beaten up and apart from Leonard and Jenkins,
> >we've done OK, injury-wise. We can certainly win the first one, and
> >looking forw[ *** rest of post held back for obvious reasons *** ]
>
> Actually, what I find intriguing is the whole mindset that Rex gave the players... all the
> talk about the Super Bowl, etc.
> If the players have really bought into it, as they seem to have, then I expect the Jets to
> play a great game. The one caveat being the gameplans chosen by the coaches.
> For instance, to remain consistent... Will Schott continue the LT folly, or finally give
> Shonn (the better rusher at present) the ball? Will Schott be aggressive, or tentative
> with his playcalling? Will he have MS on the move? Will he be in *cute* mode?
>
> While on D, will it be blitzin' or coverage, as main focus? Blitzin' from the edge, or up
> the middle? Will they try to disguise coverage 'til the very last moment, or show their
> hand? Of coourse, there's a middle ground, but Rex seems to go strongly, one way or the
> other.
>
> As for the trolls, I wouldn't read too much into anything. Seriously, it's difficult to
> get into the *mind* of a troll... I mean, can you really imagine deciding to spend your
> valuable time, going into another team's NG, and posting nonsense?
> On the other hand, can you see these same *people*, decide to go to a sports bar filled
> with opposing fans, and saying the nonsense they post anonymously in a NG?
> They're all pussies.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
word is that Shonn Greene is starting on Saturday. Read that from a
guy called "scoops" who has inside info and occasionally posts little
advance notices of things before they are announced.
== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 6:27 am
From: John C TX
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> word is that Shonn Greene is starting on Saturday. Read that from a
> guy called "scoops" who has inside info and occasionally posts little
> advance notices of things before they are announced.
I bet that we see his use similar to last year at the end, i.e.
getting most of the carries. If we can catch the ball is a bigger
concern than who is running it.
== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 6:44 am
From: Still Roper
On Jan 7, 8:43 am, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 01:17:02 -0800 (PST), Ian <spuorgelg...@ianwhitephoto.co.uk> wrote:
> >On Jan 7, 4:29 am, "JKConey" <jkco...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >> I'm really shocked by the lack of chatter and trolling here this week? My
> >> guess is that they think Jets will win, and will wait to pounce if they
> >> don't? But isn't that what pratt and the rest do?
>
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> As for the trolls, I wouldn't read too much into anything. Seriously, it's difficult to
> get into the *mind* of a troll... I mean, can you really imagine deciding to spend your
> valuable time, going into another team's NG, and posting nonsense?
> On the other hand, can you see these same *people*, decide to go to a sports bar filled
> with opposing fans, and saying the nonsense they post anonymously in a NG?
> They're all pussies.- Hide quoted text -
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>
> - Show quoted text -
Here here...well said...
== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 7:51 am
From: buRford
On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 06:03:42 -0800 (PST), Tutor <dcat4434@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Jan 7, 8:43�am, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 01:17:02 -0800 (PST), Ian <spuorgelg...@ianwhitephoto.co.uk> wrote:
>> >On Jan 7, 4:29 am, "JKConey" <jkco...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> >> I'm really shocked by the lack of chatter and trolling here this week? My
>> >> guess is that they think Jets will win, and will wait to pounce if they
>> >> don't? But isn't that what pratt and the rest do?
>>
>> >Quietly optimistic here.
>>
>> >I think the Jets *can* beat anyone in the playoffs. Last year seemed
>> >an easier route than is presented this year. The Bengals, who we'd
>> >crushed the week before, then the Chargers, 'norv said there ... and
>> >then we came up against the *rested* Colts and Peyton picked us apart
>> >in the 2nd half.
>>
>> >This year, the Colts are beaten up and apart from Leonard and Jenkins,
>> >we've done OK, injury-wise. We can certainly win the first one, and
>> >looking forw[ *** rest of post held back for obvious reasons *** ]
>>
>> Actually, what I find intriguing is the whole mindset that Rex gave the players... all the
>> talk about the Super Bowl, etc.
>> If the players have really bought into it, as they seem to have, then I expect the Jets to
>> play a great game. �The one caveat being the gameplans chosen by the coaches.
>> For instance, to remain consistent... Will Schott continue the LT folly, or finally give
>> Shonn (the better rusher at present) the ball? �Will Schott be aggressive, or tentative
>> with his playcalling? Will he have MS on the move? �Will he be in *cute* mode?
>>
>> While on D, will it be blitzin' or coverage, as main focus? Blitzin' from the edge, or up
>> the middle? �Will they try to disguise coverage 'til the very last moment, or show their
>> hand? �Of coourse, there's a middle ground, but Rex seems to go strongly, one way or the
>> other.
>>
>> As for the trolls, I wouldn't read too much into anything. �Seriously, it's difficult to
>> get into the *mind* of a troll... I mean, can you really imagine deciding to spend your
>> valuable time, going into another team's NG, and posting nonsense?
>> On the other hand, can you see these same *people*, decide to go to a sports bar filled
>> with opposing fans, and saying the nonsense they post anonymously in a NG?
>> They're all pussies.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>word is that Shonn Greene is starting on Saturday. Read that from a
>guy called "scoops" who has inside info and occasionally posts little
>advance notices of things before they are announced.
If true, that is a very good sign, and exactly what I want to see.
Hopefully, *scoops* knows what he be spekin' 'bout ;)
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 1:04 am
From: Ian
On Jan 6, 3:52 pm, JetGreeeen <jetgree...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ..........if we had a solid edge rusher. I hope Jason Taylor is fresh
> (he should be) and gets alot of snaps from the DE position. I hope a
> pass rushing lineman or linebacker is our top draft priority.
They mentioned it in the Bills game and I was surprised to hear that
Taylor only gets about 15 snaps per game. He's bloody productive for
those snaps and I expect to see a lot more of him in the play-offs.
--
Ian
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 5:23 am
From: buRford
Overtime rules have been changed for the post-season... if a team kicks a FG, the other
team gets one chance to match the score. If they tie it up, then from then on it's
sudden-death.
I like this, although it seemingly gives a bit of an advantage, to the team that doesn't
get the ball initially. Teams that get the ball, will now opt to try to get a TD, rather
than playing for the FG. So, there's a bit of extra pressure, and more of a possibility
of making a mistake.
Should be interesting to see how it plays out.
A look at new overtime rules for playoffs
By Tim Graham
ESPN.com
In case you'd forgotten, NFL owners several months ago instituted new overtime rules that
eliminate the possibility of the game ending on an opening-drive field goal in the
playoffs.
Good. Because that's dull.
But we haven't seen these new rules yet because they weren't adopted for the regular
season. That means this weekend's wild-card playoff games will be the first time we could
see multiple-possession overtimes.
At least one overtime game has transpired in nine of the past 10 postseasons. There were
two last year.
Here's a primer of the new OT rules (NFC West blogger Mike Sando posted the actual
passages from Rule 16, Article 4 of the NFL Rule Book):
* The game does not end if the team that receives the opening kickoff makes a field
goal on its initial possession. But the game is over if the team that receives the opening
kickoff scores a touchdown on its initial possession.
* Each team must have the opportunity to possess the ball -- unless a touchdown is
scored on the opening drive. Note that an "opportunity to possess" would include instances
of onside kicks and fumbled kickoffs or punts.
* If the team that kicks off first ties the game with a field goal on its next
possession, then the game becomes a true sudden-death affair. The next team to score will
win.
* A defensive touchdown on the first possession would end the game automatically.
* There will be no coaching challenges. All video reviews will be initiated by the
replay assistant.
New York Jets coach Rex Ryan foreshadowed his strategy for the revamped overtime process.
There could be strategic advantages to winning the coin flip and playing defense first.
"Obviously, it's an advantage if a team kicks a field goal on you," Ryan said. "If you
have a chance to come back, then you're basically playing four-down football until you can
kick a field goal or score a touchdown. I think that's the advantage for the team that
gets the ball second or if that team scores initially."
== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 5:53 am
From: Tutor
On Jan 7, 8:23 am, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> Overtime rules have been changed for the post-season... if a team kicks a FG, the other
> team gets one chance to match the score. If they tie it up, then from then on it's
> sudden-death.
> I like this, although it seemingly gives a bit of an advantage, to the team that doesn't
> get the ball initially. Teams that get the ball, will now opt to try to get a TD, rather
> than playing for the FG. So, there's a bit of extra pressure, and more of a possibility
> of making a mistake.
> Should be interesting to see how it plays out.
>
> A look at new overtime rules for playoffs
> By Tim Graham
> ESPN.com
>
> In case you'd forgotten, NFL owners several months ago instituted new overtime rules that
> eliminate the possibility of the game ending on an opening-drive field goal in the
> playoffs.
>
> Good. Because that's dull.
>
> But we haven't seen these new rules yet because they weren't adopted for the regular
> season. That means this weekend's wild-card playoff games will be the first time we could
> see multiple-possession overtimes.
>
> At least one overtime game has transpired in nine of the past 10 postseasons. There were
> two last year.
>
> Here's a primer of the new OT rules (NFC West blogger Mike Sando posted the actual
> passages from Rule 16, Article 4 of the NFL Rule Book):
>
> * The game does not end if the team that receives the opening kickoff makes a field
> goal on its initial possession. But the game is over if the team that receives the opening
> kickoff scores a touchdown on its initial possession.
> * Each team must have the opportunity to possess the ball -- unless a touchdown is
> scored on the opening drive. Note that an "opportunity to possess" would include instances
> of onside kicks and fumbled kickoffs or punts.
> * If the team that kicks off first ties the game with a field goal on its next
> possession, then the game becomes a true sudden-death affair. The next team to score will
> win.
> * A defensive touchdown on the first possession would end the game automatically.
> * There will be no coaching challenges. All video reviews will be initiated by the
> replay assistant.
>
> New York Jets coach Rex Ryan foreshadowed his strategy for the revamped overtime process.
> There could be strategic advantages to winning the coin flip and playing defense first.
>
> "Obviously, it's an advantage if a team kicks a field goal on you," Ryan said. "If you
> have a chance to come back, then you're basically playing four-down football until you can
> kick a field goal or score a touchdown. I think that's the advantage for the team that
> gets the ball second or if that team scores initially."
Team A wins the toss and takes the ball and kicks a fieldgoal.
Team B gets the ball. Needs to score 3 to extend the game or a TD to
win. So its offense is in 4 down territory from the moment it gets
the ball until it gets into field goal range. Say it gets to 4th and
2 or 3 around the 25 yard line. Coach has a real hard decision to
make. Go for the FG to extend the game? Or go for the first down in
an attempt to extend the drive to get the TD to win the game. Miss
the FG: game over. Go for a first down and get stopped: Game over.
== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 6:38 am
From: John C TX
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This is just plain stupid.
Eliminate OT in eh regular season.
In the play offs play 2-6 min periods with each team getting the wind
in one period nut no sudden death. If it is tied at teh end of 12
minutes, kick off & play sudden death.
== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 7:21 am
From: Harlan Lachman
In article
<63c7bace-a252-45ec-acbe-ed887ce257f2@fo10g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
Tutor <dcat4434@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jan 7, 8:23�am, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> > Overtime rules have been changed for the post-season... if a team kicks a
> > FG, the other
> > team gets one chance to match the score. �If they tie it up, then from then
> > on it's
> > sudden-death.
> > I like this, although it seemingly gives a bit of an advantage, to the team
> > that doesn't
> > get the ball initially. �Teams that get the ball, will now opt to try to
> > get a TD, rather
> > than playing for the FG. �So, there's a bit of extra pressure, and more of
> > a possibility
> > of making a mistake.
> > Should be interesting to see how it plays out.
> >
> > A look at new overtime rules for playoffs
> > By Tim Graham
> > ESPN.com
> >
> > In case you'd forgotten, NFL owners several months ago instituted new
> > overtime rules that
> > eliminate the possibility of the game ending on an opening-drive field goal
> > in the
> > playoffs.
> >
> > Good. Because that's dull.
> >
> > But we haven't seen these new rules yet because they weren't adopted for
> > the regular
> > season. That means this weekend's wild-card playoff games will be the first
> > time we could
> > see multiple-possession overtimes.
> >
> > At least one overtime game has transpired in nine of the past 10
> > postseasons. There were
> > two last year.
> >
> > Here's a primer of the new OT rules (NFC West blogger Mike Sando posted the
> > actual
> > passages from Rule 16, Article 4 of the NFL Rule Book):
> >
> > � � * The game does not end if the team that receives the opening kickoff
> > makes a field
> > goal on its initial possession. But the game is over if the team that
> > receives the opening
> > kickoff scores a touchdown on its initial possession.
> > � � * Each team must have the opportunity to possess the ball -- unless a
> > touchdown is
> > scored on the opening drive. Note that an "opportunity to possess" would
> > include instances
> > of onside kicks and fumbled kickoffs or punts.
> > � � * If the team that kicks off first ties the game with a field goal on
> > its next
> > possession, then the game becomes a true sudden-death affair. The next team
> > to score will
> > win.
> > � � * A defensive touchdown on the first possession would end the game
> > automatically.
> > � � * There will be no coaching challenges. All video reviews will be
> > initiated by the
> > replay assistant.
> >
> > New York Jets coach Rex Ryan foreshadowed his strategy for the revamped
> > overtime process.
> > There could be strategic advantages to winning the coin flip and playing
> > defense first.
> >
> > "Obviously, it's an advantage if a team kicks a field goal on you," Ryan
> > said. "If you
> > have a chance to come back, then you're basically playing four-down
> > football until you can
> > kick a field goal or score a touchdown. I think that's the advantage for
> > the team that
> > gets the ball second or if that team scores initially."
>
> Team A wins the toss and takes the ball and kicks a fieldgoal.
>
> Team B gets the ball. Needs to score 3 to extend the game or a TD to
> win. So its offense is in 4 down territory from the moment it gets
> the ball until it gets into field goal range. Say it gets to 4th and
> 2 or 3 around the 25 yard line. Coach has a real hard decision to
> make. Go for the FG to extend the game? Or go for the first down in
> an attempt to extend the drive to get the TD to win the game. Miss
> the FG: game over. Go for a first down and get stopped: Game over.
Actually, I think this is bogus. On 4th and 1 you take the points.
The real difference, the one no one is talking about, is if you get the
ball to the 25 yard line (or for better kickers the 30).
With the old rules, you ran the ball to make the kick shorter and on the
hash mark your kicker liked.
Winning coaches (or coaching to win) will no longer just run the ball
cautiously to set up a FG (as will cowardly, play not to lose coaches).
Getting a FG on a first possession will give one's opponent an easier
time: on every series they get all four downs plus the knowledge they
must score a TD. In the hands of a Peyton or Brady or Brees or Vick (I
think everyone gets the idea), scoring first with just a FG may improve
an opponent's chances of beating you.
Winning coaches will be forced to not make such conservative calls when
they get in FG range. They will need to still try to get a TD.
The first and second down calls when the ball moves to within FG range
will be the huge difference that no one is talking about..
harlan
== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 7:22 am
From: Harlan Lachman
In article
<22476915-970c-4aac-8716-77fde1814093@j1g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>,
John C TX <johnctxjets@gmail.com> wrote:
> X-No-Archive: Yes
>
> This is just plain stupid.
>
> Eliminate OT in eh regular season.
>
> In the play offs play 2-6 min periods with each team getting the wind
> in one period nut no sudden death. If it is tied at teh end of 12
> minutes, kick off & play sudden death.
I like the first part of your plan. I think the obsession with having a
winner instead of admitting that two teams are just equal is bad for the
American psyche.
I actually think the new rules as written work.
harlan
== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 7:33 am
From: Keith Keller
On 2011-01-07, Harlan Lachman <harlan@eeivt.com> wrote:
>
> I like the first part of your plan. I think the obsession with having a
> winner instead of admitting that two teams are just equal is bad for the
> American psyche.
I think that, for the regular season, if a game is tied after
regulation, the two teams should play 7 on 7 for five minutes. If
they're still tied, then they go to penalty field goals. That should
certainly make the game more exciting! Look at how well it's ''worked''
for the NHL!
Yes, I'm being sarcastic. :) Obsessing with making a winner gets you
an idiotic system that makes your entire league look foolish. (Though
obviously you need to have a way to decide a playoff game; the current
system seems fine.)
Anyone know what proportion of NFL regular season and/or playoff games
end regulation tied?
--keith
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== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 8:37 am
From: John C TX
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>
> > This is just plain stupid.
>
> > Eliminate OT in eh regular season.
>
> > In the play offs play 2-6 min periods with each team getting the wind
> > in one period nut no sudden death. If it is tied at teh end of 12
> > minutes, kick off & play sudden death.
>
> I like the first part of your plan. I think the obsession with having a
> winner instead of admitting that two teams are just equal is bad for the
> American psyche.
>
> I actually think the new rules as written work.
>
> harlan
H, I don't and that is all that matters.
:)
My concern is you get the ball, drive the field & take the points &
lose off a TD. It just seems wrong. You are probably at an advantage
by having the other team kick a FG. Every series is a 4 down series
so the defense has to play tighter making your options greater with
pass. Even if you run it you have to get 3, 2, 3 & 2 yards. If you
get 6 on the 1st why pass at all?
This is a HUGE advantage to the Mannings of the world.
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TOPIC: How the Jet CB's will be used...
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 6:39 am
From: Michael
On Jan 6, 10:26 pm, "papa.carl44" <papadotc...@nospamverizon.net>
wrote:
> "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> news:ec7c31d3-0851-4435-9420-716e1224ad8a@z19g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 6, 9:26 pm, "papa.carl44" <papadotc...@nospamverizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:45e64b2d-09fa-48cc-bfff-dab2ef9cc9dc@w17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jan 6, 7:41 pm, "papa.carl44" <papadotc...@nospamverizon.net>
> > wrote:
>
> > > "Harlan Lachman" <har...@eeivt.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:harlan-25C988.14461406012011@news60.forteinc.com...
>
> > > > In article
> > > > <0bf726cc-2baf-4b48-94aa-5c5394fd6...@e20g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
> > > > Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > >> probably hard for rex to give up on a guy like that since
> > > >> he knows his style of defense is dead in the water without the
> > > >> brianpower component calling the coverage
>
> > > > Of course, the alternative would be to play someone else not so adept
> > > > at
> > > > being too slow to cover, hit, or tackle and simplify the defense.
>
> > > > h
>
> > > Rex can't simplify his defense...because then it isn't his defense and
> > > it
> > > becomes very, very vanilla with less than the best in some positions.
> > > The
> > > entire thing was build around two outstanding corners. When he lost
> > > Jenkins
> > > he lost a lot.
>
> > imho, the poor production of pace and ellis cost them as much if not
> > more this year than losing jenk
>
> > sort of...maybe not....there is only so much they can do with no big
> > pressure in the middle. In my opinion, not having that huge player in the
> > middle changes everything. You don't see teams doubling up on people in
> > the
> > middle and that changes everything in terms of how they can defend the
> > outside.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> i'm wondering why the jets done use the double a gap blitz more
> often. when they run it, it appears to be one of the few ways they
> get successful pressure on the qb
>
> You guess wrong on that while you are playing a two deep and you are
> toasted...big time...no way around it...they NEED a big player in the
> middle...more than one really.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
i am frequently confused about the intention of the jets defense. in
your typical 34, the interior line guys get mentioned by the
announcers as often as offensive guards. they are just run suffers in
a typical two gap 34. the classic pats defense for the past few years
often shifts from a two gap 34 on first and second to a one gap 43 to
pressure on 3rd down. the jets "rex" 34 is never the same thing.
pouha, devito and ellis make an ideal run stuffing two gap 34 group,
but no way is that a good group to run an attacking or one gap front.
so... when you try to morph or vary the jets defensive set from a two
gap 34 run stuffing line to a pressure 43, they dont have the guys who
can penetrate up the gut. so... rex sends a bunch of guys in a blitz,
and... not one single jet rush lineman or OLB has nearly the juice to
destroy a single blocker. the few times they get to the qb fast is by
a db that was unaccounted for or they luck out with double a gap
pressure. so... here is my question of intention. why keep it up if
you cant run that race with the horses you have in the stable ??? This
is why I keep talking about using a 4(3)-1(2)-6 if they go visit brady
later this month
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TOPIC: Fish Keeping Sporano...
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/869ec3f9b7ec5a73?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 6:45 am
From: Still Roper
that's a good thing.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 7:24 am
From: Harlan Lachman
In article
<01ca0a87-a1f4-4038-bb67-d99bb5a615b4@f8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
Still Roper <mark_edwards_2000@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> that's a good thing.
For us. So is Luck's staying out of the draft (over valuing Gabbert,
Mallett, and Locker), and Norv's continued misrule in SD.
Now if the Jills can just decide they should stick with Gailey and Fitz.
harlan
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 7:27 am
From: Michael
On Jan 7, 9:45 am, Still Roper <mark_edwards_2...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> that's a good thing.
Sprano is a good coach. The fish are one player short of a being a
very good team. They need a qb.
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TOPIC: OT: Andrew Luck
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 7:28 am
From: Michael
You have to be kidding me ???
Dont be a fool, get the hell out of school.
$50,000,000... Kiss it goodbye now if you slip on a grape and bust
your ass.
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 7:57 am
From: buRford
On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 07:28:53 -0800 (PST), Michael <mjd1966@verizon.net> wrote:
>You have to be kidding me ???
>
>Dont be a fool, get the hell out of school.
>
>$50,000,000... Kiss it goodbye now if you slip on a grape and bust
>your ass.
He wants his degree in Architecture... more power to him.
Either way, he's going to do well for himself... so he makes a few million, if he slips on
the grape. The kid has his head on straight.
Also, he probably doesn't want to go to Carolina ;)
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 8:04 am
From: John C TX
X-No-Archive: Yes
> You have to be kidding me ???
>
> Dont be a fool, get the hell out of school.
>
> $50,000,000... Kiss it goodbye now if you slip on a grape and bust
> your ass.
Maybe but what happens if he goes 1st pick in the draft and they
strike or lockout? He won't be signed until the CBA is negotiated &
approved. If it drags on he will not get paid. If it is signed & it
has a rookie cap it will be there next year.
The cutoff is Jan 14 so he can change his mind. The NFL also has a
provision to apply after the cut off date. So he may change his mind
next week and be helping Stanford continue to recruit or he may apply
before the draft. I don't think this is over.
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 8:31 am
From: John C TX
X-No-Archive: Yes
> He wants his degree in Architecture... more power to him.
> Either way, he's going to do well for himself... so he makes a few million, if he slips on
> the grape. The kid has his head on straight.
He is also sitting in enough life science classes to sit for the
MCATs.
> Also, he probably doesn't want to go to Carolina ;)
I am expecting this to follow the path that the last great QB from
Stanford took. I will only play here.
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TOPIC: Fat Bastard keels over dead!!!!
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 8:35 am
From: DIet Plan <1of9@kaxy.com>
fat fuk dies
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TOPIC: Fat Bastard diss..while whore wife drinks koon piss
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 8:36 am
From: DIet Plan <1of9@kaxy.com>
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