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Today's topics:

* Kudos to the D, & to whoever... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/bdb60567f3425646?hl=en
* Phew! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/449f9c5247dcc073?hl=en
* Congrats Jets Fans - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/07630a1a0566fcd0?hl=en
* Holmes or Braylon? - 5 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/a582ad9b8bd60c4c?hl=en
* Great game - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/cd828c993441013c?hl=en
* That was sensational! - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/696750f4e4b9bda1?hl=en
* This Game Is on the Offense - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/73323aba8f641a54?hl=en
* pats will slaughter the jets - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/81d9cea1741f306d?hl=en
* Kill the head and the body dies... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/f4a476a3222399dc?hl=en
* Braylon Edwards....the real deal - 4 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/cc5d70af8225bb37?hl=en
* How to neutralize Schott - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/da217484e4678c20?hl=en
* No Excuses - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/855261fc2e433103?hl=en

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TOPIC: Kudos to the D, & to whoever...
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/bdb60567f3425646?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:36 pm
From: buRford


On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:24:33 -0500, "Ravnsfan�����" <the.steroid.curtain@70s.steelers.rip>
wrote:

>
>"buRford" <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
>news:0ucii6pfnuaq0k729vmrmgar33vkfbaj1a@4ax.com...
>> ... whoever woke up in the 2nd half, and understood the way to win the
>> game, on offense...
>> keeping the ball out of Manning's hands, rushing the ball, & wasting the
>> clock.
>>
>> And a special kudos to Nick Folk, & Brodney, who played a great game
>> (except for one
>> play).
>
>Don't forget to thank the Colts #10 for running into the punter. That also
>took time out of Mannings hands ...in the end. That penalty was totally
>uncharacteristic of a Colts team but, ...who really gives a flying ____
>anyway !

Hey, shat happens in pressure situations. But, the Refs had a good game, just letting the
teams play. A nice surprise ;)

>
>Amazing that there wasn't a single holding call on either side, nor any
>block in the back penalties on punts and kickoffs. At least when millions
>more folks are watching the refs can find a way to get the calls right. I
>swore they were going to over-turn the catch that was fumbled and recovered
>back on that last drive.
>
>~Drew
>

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TOPIC: Phew!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/449f9c5247dcc073?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:37 pm
From: buRford


On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 04:22:53 +0000, Percy Flage <percy.flage_REM@OVE_ianwhitephoto.co.uk>
wrote:

>On 09/01/2011 04:12, buRford wrote:
>> On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 04:04:58 +0000, Percy Flage<percy.flage_REM@OVE_ianwhitephoto.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> *Much* better 2nd half there.
>>
>>
>> Didn't you say beforehand, that the Colts D sucks against the run, so Schott would pass?
>> Prescient weren't you.
>> I suspect it was Rex who set Schott straight in the 2nd-half.
>> That was the way it should've been done from the outset.
>>
>> And a good mornin' to ya, Ian ;)
>
>Yeah, I had a bad feeling after the first half, but *someone* was torn a
>new one at the half and they took advantage of a crap run D.
>
>It limited Manning to 3 possessions for the 2nd half and 12 mins total.
>That's the way to do it.
>
>And I can't sleep just yet. I managed about 1 1/2 hours before the game,
>that's enough on a night like this. ;)

And ya don't have work in the mornin'... nitey nite ;)

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TOPIC: Congrats Jets Fans
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/07630a1a0566fcd0?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:39 pm
From: buRford


On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:14:31 -0500, "Ravnsfan�����" <the.steroid.curtain@70s.steelers.rip>
wrote:

>Nice hard fought win. Jets could have made it a laugher if not for Sanchez'
>shoulder.
>
>Hope the Ravens do as well tomorrow. Would love to go back to Pittsburgh and
>kick Benji's ass while the Jets beat the Pats so Rex can match up against
>the Ravens in our house. Fingers X
>
>~Drew
>

It'll be nice to see you guys in the Champeenship game.
Full-circle from the first game of the season.
Good luck tomorrow ;)

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TOPIC: Holmes or Braylon?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/a582ad9b8bd60c4c?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:35 pm
From: "Ravnsfan²°¹¹®"

"buRford" <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
news:t3eii6lv9bo362rsfgn2r9n8i8mstk5kuf@4ax.com...
> I'll tell ya, just judging from this game, if I'm given the choice, I'm
> keeping Braylon.
>
> He's been so big this season. And while Holmes has played well, he has
> dropped some key
> passes, and generally, he just has a lackadaisical attitude.
> Of course, I suspect they'll keep Holmes, & let Braylon go, but I think
> this would be a
> mistake. And if ya remember, I've been very critical of Edwards... but,
> he's changed my
> mind.

Based on watching Edwards during his career in Cleveland I'd thank him for a
good season, if it ends that way, keeping Holmes (whom I watched while he
played for Pittsburgh) and whom has more upside IMO. Braylon has had more
bad seasons than good ones. It is more likely than not that next year you
will not feel the same way. Holmes already has a SB ring...

~Drew


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:46 pm
From: Harlan Lachman


In article
<94869792-9735-4b75-b9ab-c7b68d60bea3@f20g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,
cd <cd2k@verizon.net> wrote:

> On Jan 8, 11:28�pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> > I'll tell ya, just judging from this game, if I'm given the choice, I'm
> > keeping Braylon.
> >
> > He's been so big this season. �And while Holmes has played well, he has
> > dropped some key
> > passes, and generally, he just has a lackadaisical attitude.
> > Of course, I suspect they'll keep Holmes, & let Braylon go, but I think
> > this would be a
> > mistake. �And if ya remember, I've been very critical of Edwards... but,
> > he's changed my
> > mind.
>
> He is a perfect complement to Cotchery, the team was actually playing
> better before Holmes started playing. I also think the three wide
> set, somehow doesn't work for the Jets. A better student of the game
> can show why it is so with the Jets. My vote goes for Braylon Edwards.

If only for his outstanding run blocking.

h


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:50 pm
From: buRford


On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 20:32:49 -0800 (PST), cd <cd2k@verizon.net> wrote:

>On Jan 8, 11:28�pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>> I'll tell ya, just judging from this game, if I'm given the choice, I'm keeping Braylon.
>>
>> He's been so big this season. �And while Holmes has played well, he has dropped some key
>> passes, and generally, he just has a lackadaisical attitude.
>> Of course, I suspect they'll keep Holmes, & let Braylon go, but I think this would be a
>> mistake. �And if ya remember, I've been very critical of Edwards... but, he's changed my
>> mind.
>
>He is a perfect complement to Cotchery, the team was actually playing
>better before Holmes started playing. I also think the three wide
>set, somehow doesn't work for the Jets. A better student of the game
>can show why it is so with the Jets. My vote goes for Braylon Edwards.

The 3-wide set doesn't work, because most of the time, they run from it.
Schott doesn't know how to coordinate his talent.
Notice, whenever there's more focus on Keller, Holmes is quiet... & visa versa.


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:52 pm
From: buRford


On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:35:35 -0500, "Ravnsfan�����" <the.steroid.curtain@70s.steelers.rip>
wrote:

>
>"buRford" <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
>news:t3eii6lv9bo362rsfgn2r9n8i8mstk5kuf@4ax.com...
>> I'll tell ya, just judging from this game, if I'm given the choice, I'm
>> keeping Braylon.
>>
>> He's been so big this season. And while Holmes has played well, he has
>> dropped some key
>> passes, and generally, he just has a lackadaisical attitude.
>> Of course, I suspect they'll keep Holmes, & let Braylon go, but I think
>> this would be a
>> mistake. And if ya remember, I've been very critical of Edwards... but,
>> he's changed my
>> mind.
>
>Based on watching Edwards during his career in Cleveland I'd thank him for a
>good season, if it ends that way, keeping Holmes (whom I watched while he
>played for Pittsburgh) and whom has more upside IMO. Braylon has had more
>bad seasons than good ones. It is more likely than not that next year you
>will not feel the same way. Holmes already has a SB ring...
>
>~Drew
>

Braylon seems to be growing up, though.
I may be wrong, but I think he's turned a corner. He's become very serious.
He's been focused, and dropped maybe two passes this season.
We'll see.


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:58 pm
From: "Ravnsfan²°¹¹®"

"buRford" <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
news:nkfii65vbseg6bkjll339pf2h4s85mkt4t@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:35:35 -0500, "Ravnsfan²°¹¹®"
> <the.steroid.curtain@70s.steelers.rip>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"buRford" <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
>>news:t3eii6lv9bo362rsfgn2r9n8i8mstk5kuf@4ax.com...
>>> I'll tell ya, just judging from this game, if I'm given the choice, I'm
>>> keeping Braylon.
>>>
>>> He's been so big this season. And while Holmes has played well, he has
>>> dropped some key
>>> passes, and generally, he just has a lackadaisical attitude.
>>> Of course, I suspect they'll keep Holmes, & let Braylon go, but I think
>>> this would be a
>>> mistake. And if ya remember, I've been very critical of Edwards... but,
>>> he's changed my
>>> mind.
>>
>>Based on watching Edwards during his career in Cleveland I'd thank him for
>>a
>>good season, if it ends that way, keeping Holmes (whom I watched while he
>>played for Pittsburgh) and whom has more upside IMO. Braylon has had more
>>bad seasons than good ones. It is more likely than not that next year you
>>will not feel the same way. Holmes already has a SB ring...
>>
>>~Drew
>>
>
> Braylon seems to be growing up, though.
> I may be wrong, but I think he's turned a corner. He's become very
> serious.
> He's been focused, and dropped maybe two passes this season.
> We'll see.

Not a wet blanket attempt I assure you. I easily recall Browns fans saying
the same thing after one of Edwards' earlier good to great NFL seasons. For
the Jets sake hopefully he's turned the corner to NFL caliber consistency.
That said... I'll take Holmes.
~Drew

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TOPIC: Great game
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/cd828c993441013c?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:39 pm
From: "RickyBobby"


It took the Jets all sixty minutes to beat the Colts but it was worth it.

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TOPIC: That was sensational!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/696750f4e4b9bda1?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:40 pm
From: Still Roper


Loved it...


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:44 pm
From: "Phillip Briganti"


Wait till next week the Patriots will make you cry.
"Still Roper" <mark_edwards_2000@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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> Loved it...

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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:54 pm
From: buRford


On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:44:40 -0500, "Phillip Briganti" <scorsese@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>Wait till next week the Patriots will make you cry.

Yup, should be fun.

>"Still Roper" <mark_edwards_2000@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
>news:be4f4ade-d274-46ad-9db8-dee46614a9fd@d7g2000vbv.googlegroups.com...
>> Loved it...
>
>
>
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TOPIC: This Game Is on the Offense
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:41 pm
From: buRford


On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 23:19:20 -0500, Harlan Lachman <harlan@eeivt.com> wrote:

>In article
><6c39d83f-ea36-41ba-9dd5-25f945d97a39@z19g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
> JetsLife <JetsLife@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Whether this Jets defense was the '85 Bears or the unit it actually
>> is, I'd still say tonight's game is on the offense.
>>
>> The defense carried the Jets all of last season in to the AFC title
>> game, and performed solidly if not great this year. Sure allowing 45
>> and 38 to NE and Chicago is unacceptable, but where the fuck was the
>> offense in that NE game? Or in home losses to Baltimore, GB and Miami?
>> If the offense shows up even just a smidgeon in those games the Jets
>> are 14-2.
>>
>> Today's game rests on the offense. The defense will do its best with
>> what it has. The offense has no excuses. It's gotta put up points and
>> lead the way. And if necessary carry the entire team.
>
>I would argue that one has to credit the specials: Cromartie's two great
>returns, Folk's clutch FG, not giving the Colts any yardage on returns,

Those returns, especially his last one, were huge.
Good night for the Specials.
Hopefully, Brad will be OK for next week.

>
>A D that prevented Peyton from scoring in the first quarter while Shott
>figured out how to call running plays to Shonn up the middle and LT off
>the edge and get the OL blocking, and then did not give up a TD at the
>end after Shott unnecessarily gave the ball back to the Colts.
>
>And an offense that ate up most of the second half running and passing
>the ball up and down the field versus the Colts, eating the clock, and
>then with a minute left, got the team to the ten yard line to win it.
>
>All three phases of the game, as one would expect.
>
>h
>
>PS. Thank the Colts HC for his time management, leaving us plenty of
>time and Rex not screwing it up at the end.

Yeah, Rex had a good night coaching tonight. Played the clock well for once.


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:46 pm
From: cd


On Jan 8, 11:41 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 23:19:20 -0500, Harlan Lachman <har...@eeivt.com> wrote:
> >In article
> ><6c39d83f-ea36-41ba-9dd5-25f945d97...@z19g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
> > JetsLife <JetsL...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >> Whether this Jets defense was the '85 Bears or the unit it actually
> >> is, I'd still say tonight's game is on the offense.
>
> >> The defense carried the Jets all of last season in to the AFC title
> >> game, and performed solidly if not great this year. Sure allowing 45
> >> and 38 to NE and Chicago is unacceptable, but where the fuck was the
> >> offense in that NE game? Or in home losses to Baltimore, GB and Miami?
> >> If the offense shows up even just a smidgeon in those games the Jets
> >> are 14-2.
>
> >> Today's game rests on the offense. The defense will do its best with
> >> what it has. The offense has no excuses. It's gotta put up points and
> >> lead the way. And if necessary carry the entire team.
>
> >I would argue that one has to credit the specials: Cromartie's two great
> >returns, Folk's clutch FG, not giving the Colts any yardage on returns,
>
> Those returns, especially his last one, were huge.
> Good night for the Specials.
> Hopefully, Brad will be OK for next week.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >A D that prevented Peyton from scoring in the first quarter while Shott
> >figured out how to call running plays to Shonn up the middle and LT off
> >the edge and get the OL blocking, and then did not give up a TD at the
> >end after Shott unnecessarily gave the ball back to the Colts.
>
> >And an offense that ate up most of the second half running and passing
> >the ball up and down the field versus the Colts, eating the clock, and
> >then with a minute left, got the team to the ten yard line to win it.
>
> >All three phases of the game, as one would expect.
>
> >h
>
> >PS. Thank the Colts HC for his time management, leaving us plenty of
> >time and Rex not screwing it up at the end.
>
> Yeah, Rex had a good night coaching tonight.  Played the clock well for once.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Particularly not wasting a timeout to freeze Vinatieri.


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:55 pm
From: buRford


On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 20:46:17 -0800 (PST), cd <cd2k@verizon.net> wrote:

>On Jan 8, 11:41 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 23:19:20 -0500, Harlan Lachman <har...@eeivt.com> wrote:
>> >In article
>> ><6c39d83f-ea36-41ba-9dd5-25f945d97...@z19g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
>> > JetsLife <JetsL...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> Whether this Jets defense was the '85 Bears or the unit it actually
>> >> is, I'd still say tonight's game is on the offense.
>>
>> >> The defense carried the Jets all of last season in to the AFC title
>> >> game, and performed solidly if not great this year. Sure allowing 45
>> >> and 38 to NE and Chicago is unacceptable, but where the fuck was the
>> >> offense in that NE game? Or in home losses to Baltimore, GB and Miami?
>> >> If the offense shows up even just a smidgeon in those games the Jets
>> >> are 14-2.
>>
>> >> Today's game rests on the offense. The defense will do its best with
>> >> what it has. The offense has no excuses. It's gotta put up points and
>> >> lead the way. And if necessary carry the entire team.
>>
>> >I would argue that one has to credit the specials: Cromartie's two great
>> >returns, Folk's clutch FG, not giving the Colts any yardage on returns,
>>
>> Those returns, especially his last one, were huge.
>> Good night for the Specials.
>> Hopefully, Brad will be OK for next week.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >A D that prevented Peyton from scoring in the first quarter while Shott
>> >figured out how to call running plays to Shonn up the middle and LT off
>> >the edge and get the OL blocking, and then did not give up a TD at the
>> >end after Shott unnecessarily gave the ball back to the Colts.
>>
>> >And an offense that ate up most of the second half running and passing
>> >the ball up and down the field versus the Colts, eating the clock, and
>> >then with a minute left, got the team to the ten yard line to win it.
>>
>> >All three phases of the game, as one would expect.
>>
>> >h
>>
>> >PS. Thank the Colts HC for his time management, leaving us plenty of
>> >time and Rex not screwing it up at the end.
>>
>> Yeah, Rex had a good night coaching tonight.  Played the clock well for once.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>Particularly not wasting a timeout to freeze Vinatieri.

LOL. Yup, had me scared for a second there ;)

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TOPIC: pats will slaughter the jets
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:42 pm
From: Still Roper


On Jan 8, 11:21 pm, TJM <T...@webtv.net> wrote:
> what a bunch of weak bitches the jets are.
> Lube up your asses and put your palms on the ground

Your daddy dropping by?


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:48 pm
From: "Ravnsfan�����"

"TJM" <TJM@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:igbd41$ghf$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> what a bunch of weak bitches the jets are.
> Lube up your asses and put your palms on the ground

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TOPIC: Kill the head and the body dies...
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/f4a476a3222399dc?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:43 pm
From: Still Roper


See Peyton Manning's red melon....


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TOPIC: Braylon Edwards....the real deal
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/cc5d70af8225bb37?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:43 pm
From: buRford


On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:20:28 -0500, "papa.carl44" <papadotcarl@nospamverizon.net> wrote:

>Not only does he make the catches, the hard ones...he blocks and makes a
>huge difference out there. Without that last catch, Nick does not get the
>chance to win it.....I love the way he plays. I also loved watching Peyton
>so frustrated. Now...if Rex chewed out some guys (Cromartie) at half
>time...I hope he does the same thing to whoever's idea it was to go for a
>bomb on third and six in a situation that could win the game. That kind of
>stuff with a QB who was obviously having serious shoulder issues was flat
>out stupid. Still, even Sanchez's less than great play got it done when
>needed. Very exciting game to watch, IMHO. Papa Carl
>

Yup, I agree about Braylon, as you see from my post after yours (which I didn't see).
Sanchez finally had some time, in the 2nd half, after they focused more on rushing.
I'll tell ya, it's so clear to me that this is the wrong O for Sanchez - - the offense
that Schott opted for to start the game.

Enjoy the win, hombre!


== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:54 pm
From: buRford


On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 23:32:06 -0500, Harlan Lachman <harlan@eeivt.com> wrote:

>In article <1-qdnfoXy-sQqrTQnZ2dnUVZ_rudnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> "papa.carl44" <papadotcarl@nospamverizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Not only does he make the catches, the hard ones...he blocks and makes a
>> huge difference out there. Without that last catch, Nick does not get the
>> chance to win it.....I love the way he plays. I also loved watching Peyton
>> so frustrated. Now...if Rex chewed out some guys (Cromartie) at half
>> time...I hope he does the same thing to whoever's idea it was to go for a
>> bomb on third and six in a situation that could win the game. That kind of
>> stuff with a QB who was obviously having serious shoulder issues was flat
>> out stupid. Still, even Sanchez's less than great play got it done when
>> needed. Very exciting game to watch, IMHO. Papa Carl
>
>Ditto on the entire excellent post.
>
>Enjoy the week Papa (et. al.). Our season ain't over. By Sunday night,
>24 teams' seasons will be.
>
>harlan

I mentioned yesterday, I'm not ready for the season to end.
We'll be in the champeenship game... then we'll see ;)


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 9:04 pm
From: "papa.carl44"

"Harlan Lachman" <harlan@eeivt.com> wrote in message
news:harlan-987B56.23315308012011@news60.forteinc.com...
> In article <1-qdnfoXy-sQqrTQnZ2dnUVZ_rudnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> "papa.carl44" <papadotcarl@nospamverizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Not only does he make the catches, the hard ones...he blocks and makes a
>> huge difference out there. Without that last catch, Nick does not get
>> the
>> chance to win it.....I love the way he plays. I also loved watching
>> Peyton
>> so frustrated. Now...if Rex chewed out some guys (Cromartie) at half
>> time...I hope he does the same thing to whoever's idea it was to go for a
>> bomb on third and six in a situation that could win the game. That kind
>> of
>> stuff with a QB who was obviously having serious shoulder issues was flat
>> out stupid. Still, even Sanchez's less than great play got it done when
>> needed. Very exciting game to watch, IMHO. Papa Carl
>
> Ditto on the entire excellent post.
>
> Enjoy the week Papa (et. al.). Our season ain't over. By Sunday night,
> 24 teams' seasons will be.
>
> harlan

It just feels good to root for a team that wins :-) I have never strayed,
always been a Jets fan since they became the Jets, even before Namath. I
never knew why either, I was a North Jersey kid who grew up, into high
school, rooting for the Giants. In high school the new league attracted my
attention. I used to watch Titans games with my next door neighbor who was
one of my football coaches in high school. When I went to college they
became the Jets and I was in a location where there were tons of Eagles and
Steelers fans...they hated NY'ers it seemed. So I started to follow the
Jets. Then my old coach pointed out to me when I came home after the season
that the "new league" did a much better job of playing defense (in his
opinion). And that the offense was wide open...the way he liked it but
could never run it at the high school :-) So...all those years. Then on
the day Namath won the thing, my wife was in the hospital, she had emergency
appendix surgery early in the morning. I spent time with her, and then went
home to clean up and get ready to go back, while at home I watched the Jets
beat the Colts...came to the hospital and she wondered why I was so happy.
At that point she had NO clue about the game at all, tonight she was
pointing out things to me and very accurately too. So...after a long, long
time with season's tickets after I quit coaching too, it is just nice to
see them win a meaningful game. Rex's D was very well designed
tonight...and I hope somebody recognizes that Eric Smith played really well,
along with Poole too. They may actually have found a position for Smith
that works for him, his reads on Manning inside were very good. Revis was
outstanding...and those others guys did a pretty good job inside. Cromartie
has some issues....but we have to give him some slack for that KO return to
set up the win. He does bring it when it counts. I am not counting them
out for next week either. This could be very interesting.


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 9:05 pm
From: "papa.carl44"

"buRford" <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
news:v3fii6hoaq6rfq4a5ejmus1nijfptt7ocs@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:20:28 -0500, "papa.carl44"
> <papadotcarl@nospamverizon.net> wrote:
>
>>Not only does he make the catches, the hard ones...he blocks and makes a
>>huge difference out there. Without that last catch, Nick does not get the
>>chance to win it.....I love the way he plays. I also loved watching
>>Peyton
>>so frustrated. Now...if Rex chewed out some guys (Cromartie) at half
>>time...I hope he does the same thing to whoever's idea it was to go for a
>>bomb on third and six in a situation that could win the game. That kind
>>of
>>stuff with a QB who was obviously having serious shoulder issues was flat
>>out stupid. Still, even Sanchez's less than great play got it done when
>>needed. Very exciting game to watch, IMHO. Papa Carl
>>
>
> Yup, I agree about Braylon, as you see from my post after yours (which I
> didn't see).
> Sanchez finally had some time, in the 2nd half, after they focused more on
> rushing.
> I'll tell ya, it's so clear to me that this is the wrong O for Sanchez - -
> the offense
> that Schott opted for to start the game.
>
> Enjoy the win, hombre!

I think you could hear Jean screaming from way down the street at the
end...the dog ran and hid :-)

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:46 pm
From: buRford


On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 20:25:06 -0800 (PST), cd <cd2k@verizon.net> wrote:

>When there is no time left on the clock, Schott is no longer a
>factor. What I mean by that is he is no longer cute, there is
>purpose. Schott seems very unfocused, the more time left on the clock
>or closer the point differential, the worse his play calling. Rex and
>Schott are not a good pair, they are both unpredictable and that is a
>lethal combination for the Jets.

Actually, I think Schott & Schott is the lethal combo.
When Rex gets involved, the O always seems to settle down.
I never saw Rex so focused on the O, when they had the ball in the 2nd half.
Seeing him on the sidelines, there were times I thought he was calling the plays ;)


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:53 pm
From: "Ravnsfan�����"

"buRford" <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
news:s9fii6t2f9rr839jv5lkp44hp4vq3tad03@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 20:25:06 -0800 (PST), cd <cd2k@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>When there is no time left on the clock, Schott is no longer a
>>factor. What I mean by that is he is no longer cute, there is
>>purpose. Schott seems very unfocused, the more time left on the clock
>>or closer the point differential, the worse his play calling. Rex and
>>Schott are not a good pair, they are both unpredictable and that is a
>>lethal combination for the Jets.
>
> Actually, I think Schott & Schott is the lethal combo.
> When Rex gets involved, the O always seems to settle down.
> I never saw Rex so focused on the O, when they had the ball in the 2nd
> half.
> Seeing him on the sidelines, there were times I thought he was calling the
> plays ;)

I noticed that as well. He was certainly talking to someone through his head
set when the offense was on the field.
~Drew

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:57 pm
From: buRford


On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 20:32:12 -0500, buRford <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 9 Jan 2011 01:20:47 +0100 (CET), Copp <cr79879@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>They're playing in a dome so Sanchez has no
>>excuses, can't blame the cold and I don't want
>>to hear any bs about Schott if they lose.
>>This game depends on the Jets D stopping
>>or at least slowing down Manning.
>>
>
>I've never heard any excuses from anyone.
>Actually, the game depends on the D, & the O... go figure.


As you see, the D took care of business.
And it took 'til the 2nd half, for Schott to actually try to win the game.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 9:05 pm
From: cd


On Jan 8, 11:57 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 20:32:12 -0500, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> >On Sun,  9 Jan 2011 01:20:47 +0100 (CET), Copp <cr79...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>They're playing in a dome so Sanchez has no
> >>excuses, can't blame the cold and I don't want
> >>to hear any bs about Schott if they lose.
> >>This game depends on the Jets D stopping
> >>or at least slowing down Manning.
>
> >I've never heard any excuses from anyone.
> >Actually, the game depends on the D, & the O... go figure.
>
> As you see, the D took care of business.
> And it took 'til the 2nd half, for Schott to actually try to win the game.

I can't agree, the drive where the Jets had to get a first down, and
with two chances, gifted by the Colts, they failed. I don't recall a
single instance when the game was on the line and they had to convert,
to keep the opponent off the field, them doing it to close it out.


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* Phew! - 3 messages, 3 authors
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:09 pm
From: Harlan Lachman


In article
<d840d4d4-0fad-4674-9909-d89c0cdb1127@n2g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
Johnny Morongo <j.mirehiel@harmonicconcordance.com> wrote:

> On Jan 7, 1:04�am, Ian <spuorgelg...@ianwhitephoto.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Jan 6, 3:52�pm, JetGreeeen <jetgree...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > ..........if we had a solid edge rusher. I hope Jason Taylor is fresh
> > > (he should be) and gets alot of snaps from the DE position. I hope a
> > > pass rushing lineman or linebacker is our top draft priority.
> >
> > They mentioned it in the Bills game and I was surprised to hear that
> > Taylor only gets about 15 snaps per game. He's bloody productive for
> > those snaps and I expect to see a lot more of him in the play-offs.
> >
> > --
> > Ian
>
> Considering how really important having a great one is, I say our
> biggest need is for a great SAFETY! DEs are, IMHO, petty much a dime
> a dozen. Not so with Safeties. Let Leonard come back and call the D
> sets, but get me the next Lott. Soon!

Well, if we make the final four again, we will have to settle for that
because no passrusher or OLB will be left.

h

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:12 pm
From: buRford


On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 04:04:58 +0000, Percy Flage <percy.flage_REM@OVE_ianwhitephoto.co.uk>
wrote:

>*Much* better 2nd half there.


Didn't you say beforehand, that the Colts D sucks against the run, so Schott would pass?
Prescient weren't you.
I suspect it was Rex who set Schott straight in the 2nd-half.
That was the way it should've been done from the outset.

And a good mornin' to ya, Ian ;)


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:15 pm
From: ewnj


On Jan 8, 11:12 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 04:04:58 +0000, Percy Flage <percy.flage_REM@OVE_ianwhitephoto.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> >*Much* better 2nd half there.
>
> Didn't you say beforehand, that the Colts D sucks against the run, so Schott would pass?
> Prescient weren't you.
> I suspect it was Rex who set Schott straight in the 2nd-half.
> That was the way it should've been done from the outset.
>
> And a good mornin' to ya, Ian ;)

I agree Colts suck, not just running game.


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:22 pm
From: Percy Flage


On 09/01/2011 04:12, buRford wrote:
> On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 04:04:58 +0000, Percy Flage<percy.flage_REM@OVE_ianwhitephoto.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> *Much* better 2nd half there.
>
>
> Didn't you say beforehand, that the Colts D sucks against the run, so Schott would pass?
> Prescient weren't you.
> I suspect it was Rex who set Schott straight in the 2nd-half.
> That was the way it should've been done from the outset.
>
> And a good mornin' to ya, Ian ;)

Yeah, I had a bad feeling after the first half, but *someone* was torn a
new one at the half and they took advantage of a crap run D.

It limited Manning to 3 possessions for the 2nd half and 12 mins total.
That's the way to do it.

And I can't sleep just yet. I managed about 1 1/2 hours before the game,
that's enough on a night like this. ;)

--
Percy Flage
"Life is too short to have to explain everyday."

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:13 pm
From: Harlan Lachman


In article
<15408f33-649c-4f01-a680-3226999281bd@g26g2000vbz.googlegroups.com>,
JetsLife <JetsLife@aol.com> wrote:

> On Jan 8, 8:49�pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> > This is exactly what I was scared of.
> > The D starts out well, but the same O crap.
> > And when Shonn is in, they rush him on the sweep... playing into the
> > quickness of Colts.
> >
> > They need to take the LOS, and rush Shonn straight ahead.
>
> If Slauson does his job drive 1 or 2 on the screen the Jets offense
> looks much better. If the o-line does it job Sanchez can hit a wide-
> open Holmes.
>
> Our offensive line is getting used thus far.
>
> Bottom line: 0 offensive points thus far.

Life, there are two ways to look at it. One is that surprise surprise,
Slauson was slow moving to his side. You are right but are you surprised.

Another is that a moron put him in a position where the success of a
play depended on his moving his feet quickly to the side. Something
about putting people in positions where they can succeed.

h


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:22 pm
From: Harlan Lachman


In article
<01a2e1a7-a134-4ee0-8fe2-48844a92c3b4@w29g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
Grinch <oldnasty@mindspring.com> wrote:

> On Jan 8, 9:09 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 17:54:10 -0800 (PST), cd <c...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > >On Jan 8, 8:49 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> > >> This is exactly what I was scared of.
> > >> The D starts out well, but the same O crap.
> > >> And when Shonn is in, they rush him on the sweep... playing into the
> > >> quickness of Colts.
> >
> > >> They need to take the LOS, and rush Shonn straight ahead.
> >
> > >Didn't get two passes to Holmes on third down for no conversion, when
> > >Cotchery or Greene would likely get you a first down.
> >
> > It's just freakin' crazy.  It's the same thing... too much LT... too much
> > motion, etc. How
> > long is the D going to keep the Colts scoreless?
> > Everything we're doing plays to the Colts strengths.  They're not even
> > respecting the run
> > anymore, choosing to speed rush even with play-action.
> >
> > Unless the O gets smart soon, this is going to turn ugly.  We fall behind,
> > then watch,
> > that's when Schott will remember Shonn is on the team.
>
> Burf, you keep talking about everything *except* Sanchez's one
> horrible throw after another, turning open receivers positioned by
> Schott for TDs into incomplete, incomplete, incomplete, Gawd awful
> *stupid* pick in scoring position.
>
> Everything Sanchez has thrown has been high, EVERYTHING. Even the
> catches by Holmes and Edwards were *leaping* catches, on way high
> balls.
>
> First half Sanchez: 9 of 18, 84yds, 4.7 per attempt, rating ... 38.
> Say: "SANCHEZ". That's why the team has scored 0.
>
> And this is with him having all day to throw. His pick he held, and
> held, and held, and held, missing Keller wide open the whole time,
> then he said too late "There's Keller!" and heaved it way over
> Keller's head to the defender.
>
> Thats not the OL, nor Schott, nor not running Greene enough -- that's
> SANCHEZ.

Grinch, the ugly throws were ugly.

OTOH, Keller mistimed his jump on the only interception - it should have
been a catch -- Santonio dropped a first down cause the ball hit him in
the hands, Sanchez completed passes on the TD drives, and he completed
big throws at the end.

Cold and hot if you ask me and extra credit for the amazing tosses to LT.

h

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:14 pm
From: Harlan Lachman


In article
<1e19f4b8-2aed-48eb-b6b2-8af374a0d32f@j29g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Ritchie <ritchie1965@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jan 8, 6:56�pm, Grinch <oldna...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > They are doing the job so far!
> >
> > I want to see a 7-9 team in the Super Bowl, if only for the great fun
> > of it.
> >
> > Also I think Pete got fired twice from NFL teams for reasons that
> > weren't really his fault. �And he's not a bad guy. So a little payback
> > is nice.
> >
> > Go Hawks Go!
>
> I don't, IMO it sort of cheapens the SB.

Unless we get to play em.

h


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:32 pm
From: Ritchie


On Jan 8, 11:14 pm, Harlan Lachman <har...@eeivt.com> wrote:
>
> > I don't, IMO it sort of cheapens the SB.
>
> Unless we get to play em.
>
> h

:)


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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:15 pm
From: "Ray O'Hara"


isn't it fun beating Manning.
tonite you got to enjoy the full effect of the Manning face


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:30 pm
From: Harlan Lachman


In article <igbcpa$4q3$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
"Ray O'Hara" <raymond-ohara@hotmail.com> wrote:

> isn't it fun beating Manning.
> tonite you got to enjoy the full effect of the Manning face

Yup. Lovely.

Thanks Ray. I hope we end your season too next week, but you are class
troll.

H

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:15 pm
From: "yoyodog"

"buRford" <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:49:14 -0500, "yoyodog" <NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>To all the Schott haters (myself included)
>>
>>This one hangs on an awful awful innacurate over throwing Mark Sanchez.
>>Sure there were a couple drops but thet fact is that the game could have
>>been put away many times
>>
>
> The game was almost lost, because of the offensive gameplan, in the first
> half.
> They did it right in the 2nd half, by rushing, using the clock, & targeted
> passing.

Agreed but still, those overthrown passes (at least 6 by my count) were
brutal. Many opportunities and points given away.


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:26 pm
From: Harlan Lachman


In article <igbcqq$rsv$1@news.datemas.de>, "yoyodog" <NOSPAM@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> "buRford" <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
> news:5rcii65769n6c69baksuhju6dfnl47k247@4ax.com...
> > On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:49:14 -0500, "yoyodog" <NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >>To all the Schott haters (myself included)
> >>
> >>This one hangs on an awful awful innacurate over throwing Mark Sanchez.
> >>Sure there were a couple drops but thet fact is that the game could have
> >>been put away many times
> >>
> >
> > The game was almost lost, because of the offensive gameplan, in the first
> > half.
> > They did it right in the 2nd half, by rushing, using the clock, & targeted
> > passing.
>
> Agreed but still, those overthrown passes (at least 6 by my count) were
> brutal. Many opportunities and points given away.

YoYo,

You are right, Sanchez looked horrific too often. OTOH, he won us the
game.

A good coach puts his players in positions to succeed. The brutal 3rd
down bomb when a 6 yard slant might have wrapped up the game given the
time out calls by Caldwell. The wide runs to Shonn, not getting the line
up to kill on the run, and not using Shonn enough hurt.

It is interesting to note that the same guy who looked awful on a lot of
throws won the game with essential 3rd down completions on the TD drives
and the last FG drive and made some amazing tosses (literally) to LT.

H


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:33 pm
From: buRford


On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:15:19 -0500, "yoyodog" <NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>"buRford" <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
>news:5rcii65769n6c69baksuhju6dfnl47k247@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:49:14 -0500, "yoyodog" <NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>To all the Schott haters (myself included)
>>>
>>>This one hangs on an awful awful innacurate over throwing Mark Sanchez.
>>>Sure there were a couple drops but thet fact is that the game could have
>>>been put away many times
>>>
>>
>> The game was almost lost, because of the offensive gameplan, in the first
>> half.
>> They did it right in the 2nd half, by rushing, using the clock, & targeted
>> passing.
>
>Agreed but still, those overthrown passes (at least 6 by my count) were
>brutal. Many opportunities and points given away.
>

I'm tellin' ya, Sanchez is hurtin'. Especially when he's rushed, he can't follow through.
He was getting lots of pressure from the edge in the first half. Once they established
the run, in the 2nd half, Sanchez passed better.
The safeties were no longer hanging back, and had to come up to stop the run.

The abject stupidity of forcing Sanchez to pass in the 1st half, with his shoulder, and
against that defense... I couldn't believe it. And ya know my expectations about Schott
;)

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:14 pm
From: "Ravnsfan²°¹¹®"


Nice hard fought win. Jets could have made it a laugher if not for Sanchez'
shoulder.

Hope the Ravens do as well tomorrow. Would love to go back to Pittsburgh and
kick Benji's ass while the Jets beat the Pats so Rex can match up against
the Ravens in our house. Fingers X

~Drew

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:19 pm
From: Harlan Lachman


In article
<6c39d83f-ea36-41ba-9dd5-25f945d97a39@z19g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
JetsLife <JetsLife@aol.com> wrote:

> Whether this Jets defense was the '85 Bears or the unit it actually
> is, I'd still say tonight's game is on the offense.
>
> The defense carried the Jets all of last season in to the AFC title
> game, and performed solidly if not great this year. Sure allowing 45
> and 38 to NE and Chicago is unacceptable, but where the fuck was the
> offense in that NE game? Or in home losses to Baltimore, GB and Miami?
> If the offense shows up even just a smidgeon in those games the Jets
> are 14-2.
>
> Today's game rests on the offense. The defense will do its best with
> what it has. The offense has no excuses. It's gotta put up points and
> lead the way. And if necessary carry the entire team.

I would argue that one has to credit the specials: Cromartie's two great
returns, Folk's clutch FG, not giving the Colts any yardage on returns,

A D that prevented Peyton from scoring in the first quarter while Shott
figured out how to call running plays to Shonn up the middle and LT off
the edge and get the OL blocking, and then did not give up a TD at the
end after Shott unnecessarily gave the ball back to the Colts.

And an offense that ate up most of the second half running and passing
the ball up and down the field versus the Colts, eating the clock, and
then with a minute left, got the team to the ten yard line to win it.

All three phases of the game, as one would expect.

h

PS. Thank the Colts HC for his time management, leaving us plenty of
time and Rex not screwing it up at the end.

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:20 pm
From: "papa.carl44"


Not only does he make the catches, the hard ones...he blocks and makes a
huge difference out there. Without that last catch, Nick does not get the
chance to win it.....I love the way he plays. I also loved watching Peyton
so frustrated. Now...if Rex chewed out some guys (Cromartie) at half
time...I hope he does the same thing to whoever's idea it was to go for a
bomb on third and six in a situation that could win the game. That kind of
stuff with a QB who was obviously having serious shoulder issues was flat
out stupid. Still, even Sanchez's less than great play got it done when
needed. Very exciting game to watch, IMHO. Papa Carl


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:32 pm
From: Harlan Lachman


In article <1-qdnfoXy-sQqrTQnZ2dnUVZ_rudnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"papa.carl44" <papadotcarl@nospamverizon.net> wrote:

> Not only does he make the catches, the hard ones...he blocks and makes a
> huge difference out there. Without that last catch, Nick does not get the
> chance to win it.....I love the way he plays. I also loved watching Peyton
> so frustrated. Now...if Rex chewed out some guys (Cromartie) at half
> time...I hope he does the same thing to whoever's idea it was to go for a
> bomb on third and six in a situation that could win the game. That kind of
> stuff with a QB who was obviously having serious shoulder issues was flat
> out stupid. Still, even Sanchez's less than great play got it done when
> needed. Very exciting game to watch, IMHO. Papa Carl

Ditto on the entire excellent post.

Enjoy the week Papa (et. al.). Our season ain't over. By Sunday night,
24 teams' seasons will be.

harlan

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:21 pm
From: "Laurence Smith"


Harlan Lachman wrote:

> Shottenheimer calls a bomb when 6 yards wins the game. A slant to
> Braylon is a lot easier to complete against the rook.
>
> If we lose, this call does. it.
>
> The D did not have to go out on the field.
>
> I hate this man. Fire his ass. No way my evening should be ruined.
>
> Harlan


I have to agree.
I thought Schott called a decent game, at least once the second half
started.
But that bomb to Edwards was a horrible call. A slant to Edwards,
Holmes, or even Cotchery would have been just fine.

I thought to myself: "Schott should be shot."
Then I remembered the horror in Arizona and decided a simple dismissal
was more in order.

--
Larry Smith

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:25 pm
From: cd


When there is no time left on the clock, Schott is no longer a
factor. What I mean by that is he is no longer cute, there is
purpose. Schott seems very unfocused, the more time left on the clock
or closer the point differential, the worse his play calling. Rex and
Schott are not a good pair, they are both unpredictable and that is a
lethal combination for the Jets.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:28 pm
From: "Ravnsfan²°¹¹®"

"cd" <cd2k@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:ac6bba06-7651-45b9-a9f1-6a6eb88afe96@y31g2000vbt.googlegroups.com...
> When there is no time left on the clock, Schott is no longer a
> factor. What I mean by that is he is no longer cute, there is
> purpose. Schott seems very unfocused, the more time left on the clock
> or closer the point differential, the worse his play calling. Rex and
> Schott are not a good pair, they are both unpredictable and that is a
> lethal combination for the Jets.

Rex is lethal enough on his own ...for any team.

~Drew

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:24 pm
From: "Ravnsfan²°¹¹®"

"buRford" <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
news:0ucii6pfnuaq0k729vmrmgar33vkfbaj1a@4ax.com...
> ... whoever woke up in the 2nd half, and understood the way to win the
> game, on offense...
> keeping the ball out of Manning's hands, rushing the ball, & wasting the
> clock.
>
> And a special kudos to Nick Folk, & Brodney, who played a great game
> (except for one
> play).

Don't forget to thank the Colts #10 for running into the punter. That also
took time out of Mannings hands ...in the end. That penalty was totally
uncharacteristic of a Colts team but, ...who really gives a flying ____
anyway !

Amazing that there wasn't a single holding call on either side, nor any
block in the back penalties on punts and kickoffs. At least when millions
more folks are watching the refs can find a way to get the calls right. I
swore they were going to over-turn the catch that was fumbled and recovered
back on that last drive.

~Drew


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:36 pm
From: buRford


On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:24:33 -0500, "Ravnsfan�����" <the.steroid.curtain@70s.steelers.rip>
wrote:

>
>"buRford" <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
>news:0ucii6pfnuaq0k729vmrmgar33vkfbaj1a@4ax.com...
>> ... whoever woke up in the 2nd half, and understood the way to win the
>> game, on offense...
>> keeping the ball out of Manning's hands, rushing the ball, & wasting the
>> clock.
>>
>> And a special kudos to Nick Folk, & Brodney, who played a great game
>> (except for one
>> play).
>
>Don't forget to thank the Colts #10 for running into the punter. That also
>took time out of Mannings hands ...in the end. That penalty was totally
>uncharacteristic of a Colts team but, ...who really gives a flying ____
>anyway !

Hey, shat happens in pressure situations. But, the Refs had a good game, just letting the
teams play. A nice surprise ;)

>
>Amazing that there wasn't a single holding call on either side, nor any
>block in the back penalties on punts and kickoffs. At least when millions
>more folks are watching the refs can find a way to get the calls right. I
>swore they were going to over-turn the catch that was fumbled and recovered
>back on that last drive.
>
>~Drew
>

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:28 pm
From: buRford


I'll tell ya, just judging from this game, if I'm given the choice, I'm keeping Braylon.

He's been so big this season. And while Holmes has played well, he has dropped some key
passes, and generally, he just has a lackadaisical attitude.
Of course, I suspect they'll keep Holmes, & let Braylon go, but I think this would be a
mistake. And if ya remember, I've been very critical of Edwards... but, he's changed my
mind.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:32 pm
From: cd


On Jan 8, 11:28 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> I'll tell ya, just judging from this game, if I'm given the choice, I'm keeping Braylon.
>
> He's been so big this season.  And while Holmes has played well, he has dropped some key
> passes, and generally, he just has a lackadaisical attitude.
> Of course, I suspect they'll keep Holmes, & let Braylon go, but I think this would be a
> mistake.  And if ya remember, I've been very critical of Edwards... but, he's changed my
> mind.

He is a perfect complement to Cotchery, the team was actually playing
better before Holmes started playing. I also think the three wide
set, somehow doesn't work for the Jets. A better student of the game
can show why it is so with the Jets. My vote goes for Braylon Edwards.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:28 pm
From: Harlan Lachman


In article
<974c5352-a73a-4ed3-af8a-c463e3f84799@z19g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
ewnj <ibm_97@yahoo.com> wrote:

> NE wins by double digits, with ease.

Think of New Orleans and be careful of what you wish for.

At the worst, the Pats have to prepare for two different game plans. Do
they the mad blitzer who beat Brady in one game and got killed in
another or the non Blitzer who beat the Colts.

Bellichek will have to earn his money this week.

h

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:21 pm
From: TJM


what a bunch of weak bitches the jets are.
Lube up your asses and put your palms on the ground


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Today's topics:

* D holds 3 times... the O nothing... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/6816a575782c0bcb?hl=en
* Our QB stinks - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/b951051f37e74e38?hl=en
* Chico Is Not Overthrowing The Receivers!! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/86a204bf64bb2143?hl=en
* Again... that's how ya do it! - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* This is it....can O come through??? - 5 messages, 2 authors
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* Shottenheimer Sucks - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Need a 1st down not a TD - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Hang this one on #6 - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* MISS YOU TRAITOR! - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Nick! - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* Pats are smiling - 3 messages, 3 authors
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* Phew! - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Good Luck Jets Fans - 2 messages, 1 author
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* Kudos to the D, & to whoever... - 1 messages, 1 author
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* I Would Feel a Little Better About This Game......... - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: D holds 3 times... the O nothing...
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 6:57 pm
From: buRford


On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 18:52:01 -0800 (PST), Grinch <oldnasty@mindspring.com> wrote:

>On Jan 8, 9:09�pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 17:54:10 -0800 (PST), cd <c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> >On Jan 8, 8:49�pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>> >> This is exactly what I was scared of.
>> >> The D starts out well, but the same O crap.
>> >> And when Shonn is in, they rush him on the sweep... playing into the quickness of Colts.
>>
>> >> They need to take the LOS, and rush Shonn straight ahead.
>>
>> >Didn't get two passes to Holmes on third down for no conversion, when
>> >Cotchery or Greene would likely get you a first down.
>>
>> It's just freakin' crazy. �It's the same thing... too much LT... too much motion, etc. How
>> long is the D going to keep the Colts scoreless?
>> Everything we're doing plays to the Colts strengths. �They're not even respecting the run
>> anymore, choosing to speed rush even with play-action.
>>
>> Unless the O gets smart soon, this is going to turn ugly. �We fall behind, then watch,
>> that's when Schott will remember Shonn is on the team.
>
>Burf, you keep talking about everything *except* Sanchez's one
>horrible throw after another, turning open receivers positioned by
>Schott for TDs into incomplete, incomplete, incomplete, Gawd awful
>*stupid* pick in scoring position.

Did you watch the first drive of the 2nd half??
That's what I've been saying.
OK.
Sanchez is freakin' injured. They shouldn't be forcing him to throw, especially, when
they can rush at will, waste time, & wear out the Colts D.

>
>Everything Sanchez has thrown has been high, EVERYTHING. Even the
>catches by Holmes and Edwards were *leaping* catches, on way high
>balls.
>
>First half Sanchez: 9 of 18, 84yds, 4.7 per attempt, rating ... 38.
>Say: "SANCHEZ". That's why the team has scored 0.
>
>And this is with him having all day to throw. His pick he held, and
>held, and held, and held, missing Keller wide open the whole time,
>then he said too late "There's Keller!" and heaved it way over
>Keller's head to the defender.
>
>Thats not the OL, nor Schott, nor not running Greene enough -- that's
>SANCHEZ.

So... use your brain for once, Grinch... if it's all on Sanchez, why force him to throw
the ball??
Ever have an injured shoulder... ya can't follow through.
Wild high is the result.
The Jets can overpower the Colts. They need to do it, not keep forcing Sanchez to pass
the ball.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 7:01 pm
From: buRford


On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 18:57:21 -0800 (PST), Grinch <oldnasty@mindspring.com> wrote:

>On Jan 8, 9:42 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 21:37:08 -0500, "JKConey" <jkco...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> >    Sorry guys but it's true. Colts gave up 30 to the Titans! He's a low
>> >percentage guy, yet they keep asking him to throw it 40 times, when the run
>> >is going pretty good. Keller is wide wide wide open running across the field
>> >yet he holds the ball until he's covered, and we lose the 3.
>>
>> It's not Sanchez.  The Colts are pressuring him, since the Jets aren't running the ball.
>> The Colts want the Jets to pass, so they are, instead of forcing the safeties in to
>> respect the rush, which will open up the pass, and give Sanchez a bit more time.
>>
>> Even bozo Collingsworth keeps saying the Jets could rush straight ahead.
>
>If you want to quote Collingsworht, quote him saying how throwing one
>horribly over-thrown ball after another.
>
>Ooops, as I type this he throws way over another guy's head.
>Collingsworth: "Now 9 of 20, he is just wild."

Nice insights, Grinch.

Again... if Sanchez sucks so much, why are you forcing him to pass the ball?
Use your freakin' brain for once, instead of defending the indefensible - - making a a QB
you say sucks, throw the ball.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 7:11 pm
From: "mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu"


Rex just failed to recruit enough nine foot tall ones!!!

Fuck Rex!!!

mr dude

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TOPIC: Again... that's how ya do it!
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 7:22 pm
From: buRford


And notice, Sanchez happens to be passing better now, too.
I wonder if establishing the run, helps... ya think?


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 7:26 pm
From: cd


On Jan 8, 10:22 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> And notice, Sanchez happens to be passing better now, too.
> I wonder if establishing the run, helps... ya think?

Now on D, nothing cute, no all out blitzes, just frustrate Manning and
get the ball back.

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TOPIC: This is it....can O come through???
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 7:37 pm
From: Hammer


Go Jets!


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 7:42 pm
From: Hammer


On Jan 8, 10:37 pm, Hammer <stuart.feldha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Go Jets!

So far no but penalty gives them another chance! Just get one lousy
first down!!!


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 7:46 pm
From: Hammer


On Jan 8, 10:42 pm, Hammer <stuart.feldha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 8, 10:37 pm, Hammer <stuart.feldha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Go Jets!
>
> So far no but penalty gives them another chance! Just get one lousy
> first down!!!

Oh well. I can guess what happens here. :(


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 7:46 pm
From: cd


On Jan 8, 10:42 pm, Hammer <stuart.feldha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 8, 10:37 pm, Hammer <stuart.feldha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Go Jets!
>
> So far no but penalty gives them another chance! Just get one lousy
> first down!!!

I cannot believe that is the sequence of plays!!


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 7:48 pm
From: Hammer


On Jan 8, 10:46 pm, cd <c...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Jan 8, 10:42 pm, Hammer <stuart.feldha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 8, 10:37 pm, Hammer <stuart.feldha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Go Jets!
>
> > So far no but penalty gives them another chance! Just get one lousy
> > first down!!!
>
> I cannot believe that is the sequence of plays!!

I know - the long pass was like the stupidest thing they could have
done.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 7:49 pm
From: Harlan Lachman


Shottenheimer calls a bomb when 6 yards wins the game. A slant to
Braylon is a lot easier to complete against the rook.

If we lose, this call does. it.

The D did not have to go out on the field.

I hate this man. Fire his ass. No way my evening should be ruined.

Harlan

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 7:50 pm
From: cd


Can't believe they went for a deep pass. There is no way Manning
doesn't get in position for a FG.

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TOPIC: Hang this one on #6
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 7:49 pm
From: "yoyodog"


To all the Schott haters (myself included)

This one hangs on an awful awful innacurate over throwing Mark Sanchez.
Sure there were a couple drops but thet fact is that the game could have
been put away many times


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:04 pm
From: buRford


On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:49:14 -0500, "yoyodog" <NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:

>To all the Schott haters (myself included)
>
>This one hangs on an awful awful innacurate over throwing Mark Sanchez.
>Sure there were a couple drops but thet fact is that the game could have
>been put away many times
>

The game was almost lost, because of the offensive gameplan, in the first half.
They did it right in the 2nd half, by rushing, using the clock, & targeted passing.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 7:53 pm
From: "Ray O'Hara"


damn, too late.

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TOPIC: Nick!
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:02 pm
From: buRford

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:03 pm
From: Hammer


On Jan 8, 11:02 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>

I'll take it!!!!!

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:03 pm
From: ewnj


NE wins by double digits, with ease.


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:04 pm
From: Hammer


On Jan 8, 11:03 pm, ewnj <ibm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> NE wins by double digits, with ease.

Screw you and get out of this newsgroup. Think whatever you want but
give us at least 5 minutes to enjoy the win!


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:08 pm
From: buRford


On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 20:03:50 -0800 (PST), ewnj <ibm_97@yahoo.com> wrote:

>NE wins by double digits, with ease.

Yup, the Jets are smiling too.
Should be fun.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:04 pm
From: Percy Flage


*Much* better 2nd half there.

--
Percy Flage
"Life is too short to have to explain everyday."

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:05 pm
From: Harlan Lachman


In article
<2aa40573-75d6-4bd6-9857-f48da83c2f27@k14g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
Johnny Morongo <j.mirehiel@harmonicconcordance.com> wrote:

> On Jan 8, 9:48�am, Harlan Lachman <har...@eeivt.com> wrote:
> > I hope we have something to celebrate tomorrow and the season does not
> > end. Good luck to all fellow sufferers, especially the long timers.
> >
> > H
> >
> > PS, I predict our chances of winning will correlate inversely to the
> > percentage of time our safeties are in on second and 7 and third and 6
> > or longer plays (i.e., statistically obvious passing downs).
> >
> > I would not play any safeties which would equal a percentage of zero. I
> > think our safeties, other than Leonhard, remain the main weakness of
> > this team (i.e., not just the defense). Pool, Smith and even Dig have
> > done nothing to distinguish themselves all year as positional players.
> >
> > OTOH, Drew Coleman has shown real growth and it seems to my lying eyes
> > that Marquise Cole has shown real coverage potential at times. �I would
> > feel much more comfortable with these two trying to cover backs, TEs and
> > third WR than Pool, POS Smith, or even Dig (who at least makes an
> > occasional play as a blitzer).
> >
> > My fear is that Rex' faith in his players (and coaches) who do not
> > deserve it will force him to play regulars who suck, making Peyton's and
> > his second and third string receivers' jobs much too easy.
>
> I echo your wishes of luck to each and all Jets fans, H. But, as I
> see it, even if the Offense gives no offense, the Defensive personnel
> and coaching are the real Achilles Heal of the team, especially
> against one of the best and brightest QBs of all time. It would truly
> be amazing if, in back to back weeks, we beat both Manning and Brady,
> but that's what our D will have to do to get us to Vinceland. I
> seriously doubt that it will, Rex's mouth notwithstanding.

Not today Johnny. Even more amazing, Rex went against tendency and did
not blitz. While Pool and Smith were not great, Pool made some decent
plays on runs and others covered the passes. The D held fine.

Shott called a better game in the second half, except for the brain fart
on 3rd down with less than three minutes in the game.

But, this one was fun.

h


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:07 pm
From: Harlan Lachman


In article <jpKdnWDAtJT-RrXQnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"papa.carl44" <papadotcarl@nospamverizon.net> wrote:

> "Johnny Morongo" <j.mirehiel@harmonicconcordance.com> wrote in message
> news:2aa40573-75d6-4bd6-9857-f48da83c2f27@k14g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 8, 9:48 am, Harlan Lachman <har...@eeivt.com> wrote:
> > I hope we have something to celebrate tomorrow and the season does not
> > end. Good luck to all fellow sufferers, especially the long timers.
> >
> > H
> >
> > PS, I predict our chances of winning will correlate inversely to the
> > percentage of time our safeties are in on second and 7 and third and 6
> > or longer plays (i.e., statistically obvious passing downs).
> >
> > I would not play any safeties which would equal a percentage of zero. I
> > think our safeties, other than Leonhard, remain the main weakness of
> > this team (i.e., not just the defense). Pool, Smith and even Dig have
> > done nothing to distinguish themselves all year as positional players.
> >
> > OTOH, Drew Coleman has shown real growth and it seems to my lying eyes
> > that Marquise Cole has shown real coverage potential at times. I would
> > feel much more comfortable with these two trying to cover backs, TEs and
> > third WR than Pool, POS Smith, or even Dig (who at least makes an
> > occasional play as a blitzer).
> >
> > My fear is that Rex' faith in his players (and coaches) who do not
> > deserve it will force him to play regulars who suck, making Peyton's and
> > his second and third string receivers' jobs much too easy.
>
> I echo your wishes of luck to each and all Jets fans, H. But, as I
> see it, even if the Offense gives no offense, the Defensive personnel
> and coaching are the real Achilles Heal of the team, especially
> against one of the best and brightest QBs of all time. It would truly
> be amazing if, in back to back weeks, we beat both Manning and Brady,
> but that's what our D will have to do to get us to Vinceland. I
> seriously doubt that it will, Rex's mouth notwithstanding.
>
> With what is left of the Jets D they have NO pass rush and can't put any
> pressure on a QB...that leaves Rex doing what he has done most of the
> season, play a lot of man coverage, and both Manning and Brady will pick man
> coverage to pieces. All they need is a good third receiver and adequate
> backs out etc and it is a picnic for them. If the Jets attempt to blitz it
> will have to be one of the best blitzing shows ever put on and executed
> almost entirely by some LB's and DB's...we haven't seen any evidence the D
> line people can be effective in a pass rush scheme. I wish it were
> different...I will root for them and hope they can somehow shake up Manning
> early on, get him rattled and off rhythem early.

Papa, I will trust your lying eyes over mine, but it seemed for the most
part, no pass rush was offset by tight man for man and extra safeties
taking away the middle.

Did I miss something?

h

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:06 pm
From: buRford


... whoever woke up in the 2nd half, and understood the way to win the game, on offense...
keeping the ball out of Manning's hands, rushing the ball, & wasting the clock.

And a special kudos to Nick Folk, & Brodney, who played a great game (except for one
play).

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 8 2011 8:09 pm
From: Harlan Lachman


In article
<d840d4d4-0fad-4674-9909-d89c0cdb1127@n2g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
Johnny Morongo <j.mirehiel@harmonicconcordance.com> wrote:

> On Jan 7, 1:04�am, Ian <spuorgelg...@ianwhitephoto.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Jan 6, 3:52�pm, JetGreeeen <jetgree...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > ..........if we had a solid edge rusher. I hope Jason Taylor is fresh
> > > (he should be) and gets alot of snaps from the DE position. I hope a
> > > pass rushing lineman or linebacker is our top draft priority.
> >
> > They mentioned it in the Bills game and I was surprised to hear that
> > Taylor only gets about 15 snaps per game. He's bloody productive for
> > those snaps and I expect to see a lot more of him in the play-offs.
> >
> > --
> > Ian
>
> Considering how really important having a great one is, I say our
> biggest need is for a great SAFETY! DEs are, IMHO, petty much a dime
> a dozen. Not so with Safeties. Let Leonard come back and call the D
> sets, but get me the next Lott. Soon!

Well, if we make the final four again, we will have to settle for that
because no passrusher or OLB will be left.

h


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