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Today's topics:
* May the best team win! - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/706f5bf7cabc218a?hl=en
* Fake punt by NE was pure arrogance - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/bfd0ab3c62e2f760?hl=en
* I guess you can talk your way to the AFC Championship game. - 2 messages, 2
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/ff8b2b56ca592445?hl=en
* Cavenaugh mentioned by players... - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/1efd412752c2f44f?hl=en
* Fake Punt - 4 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/8eaf4fd98c16a11e?hl=en
* Nitpicking weirdness - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/431d7c652bbf3614?hl=en
* BB's mistakes - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/e53893ab02c1c2fe?hl=en
* We're doomed... Pundits 101 rant... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/7d4baee2db0e030d?hl=en
* By the way... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/9d670990eef773b3?hl=en
* Bart Scott was a bit pissed after game... - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/b02d269dc7a49dd6?hl=en
* Wearing the GREEN - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/ca040c50b6bcf543?hl=en
* Jets will be a GREASE STAIN in the next round. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/9f8a5f27b0771791?hl=en
* Are the NE Patriots the new chokers of the NFL? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/b66774fffc10b56e?hl=en
* early thoughts on Steelers - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/0cd7b932441b0aa1?hl=en
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TOPIC: May the best team win!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/706f5bf7cabc218a?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 17 2011 7:15 am
From: John C TX
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> OK, I am back....Congratulations! Rex was right about the 45-3
> game...it was Rex vs Bill, and he did something about it.
> Only slightly surprised at the outcome, really....
> Kill the Steelers, please....as for me, I just ordered a virtual dog
> so that I can have something to kick....
>
> JM
That was very funny. Now as Jet fans we have to pray you screw up the
draft.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 17 2011 7:50 am
From: buRford
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 07:15:58 -0800 (PST), John C TX <johnctxjets@gmail.com> wrote:
>X-No-Archive: Yes
>
>> OK, I am back....Congratulations! Rex was right about the 45-3
>> game...it was Rex vs Bill, and he did something about it.
>> Only slightly surprised at the outcome, really....
>> Kill the Steelers, please....as for me, I just ordered a virtual dog
>> so that I can have something to kick....
>>
>> JM
>
>
>That was very funny. Now as Jet fans we have to pray you screw up the
>draft.
Nah, all we have to pray for, is that we don't screw up ours ;)
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TOPIC: Fake punt by NE was pure arrogance
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/bfd0ab3c62e2f760?hl=en
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Date: Mon, Jan 17 2011 7:18 am
From: buRford
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 22:24:08 -0800 (PST), Grinch <oldnasty@mindspring.com> wrote:
>On Jan 16, 6:09 pm, Hammer <stuart.feldha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Bellichik wanted to shut the Jets up. That's the type of move I would
>> expect from the team that thinks it's the underdog and needs that play
>> to win the game, or the move I would expect from the team that thinks
>> it's so wonderful that there's no way it can lose. Benching Welker in
>> the beginning was the same type of move - I'm going to bench my guy
>> and we'll still win handily.
>
>Different point of view:
>
>Bill saw he was behind half way through the game, fighting a D he and
>Tom were making no progress solving, and knew he needed points.
>
>The same thing that drove him to go for a two-point conversion early
>in the game, and then try a 4th and 12 rather than a long FG.
>
>That's what a coach does when he's behind and sweating it -- and I for
>one enjoyed seeing it.
>
>He was *behind* and the Jets D was playing lights out.
>
>> the type of move I would
>> expect from the team that thinks it's the underdog and needs that play
>> to win the game,
>
>Which is exactly the situation he was in.
>
>BB's a lot of things, but he's sure not stupid. He knows damn well
>you win the game first, rub it in their faces later.
>
>And how many plays was Welker benched. Two? That was purely
>symbolic.
And he was only *benched* on O.
He was out there, if I recall, on a punt return before he was *benched.* ;)
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TOPIC: I guess you can talk your way to the AFC Championship game.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/ff8b2b56ca592445?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 17 2011 7:21 am
From: buRford
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 03:37:42 -0800 (PST), MuahMan <muahman@gmail.com> wrote:
>Because they sure didn't do it with talent. Let me guess Ryan, it's
>personal with Mike Tomlin too?
Kinda of says a lot about your team of losers yesterday... beaten up by a no-talent bunch
like the Jets.
C ya.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 17 2011 7:31 am
From: Tutor
On Jan 17, 6:37 am, MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Because they sure didn't do it with talent. Let me guess Ryan, it's
> personal with Mike Tomlin too?
hahahahaha. You crack me up. Except for QB position, the Jets
personnel is better than the Pats at nearly every single position.
OL: Jets by a wide margin. Pats OL nothing special at all.
RB: not even close. The entire Pats offense game plan was centered
around Danny Woodhead yesterday. That's pathetic and stupid. Like
night and day.. opposite ends of the spectrum
WR: OMG. The Pats suck ass here. Branch is the most overrated runt
of a WR whose only claim to fame is whatever Brady gave him many years
ago. Has done jack shit since and never anything without Brady.
WIthout Brady (and now even with Brady) he is nothing. Welker is
usually pretty good... but not yesterday. Compare that to the Holmes/
Edwards/Cotch Trio. OMG.. Like comparing little boys to men (a
comparison made so that Brian can understand).
The only advantage the Pats had was at QB, and yesterday, Berady
folded like a paper doll after getting knocked around early. Brady
displayed his epic pussyness for the world to see yesterday. He
really is a pussy.
DL: Here the Pas have an edge, albeit a small one if jenkins were
healthy. Yet strangely, Shaun Ellis was the best DL on the field
yesterday. Even that fat piece of shit, dirty player Wilfork got
stifled by the Jets OL yesterday.
LB: hahahahaha Jets win in a landslide. Mayo the only semblence of
a good LB on the Pats and yesterday, Mayo couldn't do shit. Looked
clueless right up to Shonn Greene casting him aside like a rag doll on
Greene's seal-the-victory touchdown run. Mayo looked lost.
DBs: I really like McCourty and Chung. And I'd personally like to
thank Patrick Chung for callineg the brilliant fake punt yesterday.
It wasn't Belichick folks... it was Chung, with all his many many
years of NFL experience, who called that ridiculous fake punt giving
the Jets the short field to set up Braylon's great TD, in which he
dragged several members of the Pats pathetic secondary into the
endzone with him. The Jets secondary, even with the deficiencies at
both safety positions, is vastly superior to that of the Pats.
Summary: Jets are a better team from top to bottom except at QB.
The entirety of the Pats success depends on one man out there, and on
days when he gets hit early, he turns into a little girl.
There you go Brian. Eat shit and enjoy it.
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TOPIC: Cavenaugh mentioned by players...
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 17 2011 7:28 am
From: Michael
In post game interviews with offensive players. All praising "Coach
Cav" prior to Schotty and much more often than Shotty.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 17 2011 7:57 am
From: buRford
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 07:28:44 -0800 (PST), Michael <mjd1966@verizon.net> wrote:
>In post game interviews with offensive players. All praising "Coach
>Cav" prior to Schotty and much more often than Shotty.
I know I'm surprised ;)
Seriously though, I understand Sanchez praising his position coach, but who else?
Why would the QB coach be praised by others?
Wonder what he does besides coaching MS ;)
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 17 2011 8:06 am
From: Michael
On Jan 17, 10:57 am, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 07:28:44 -0800 (PST), Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >In post game interviews with offensive players. All praising "Coach
> >Cav" prior to Schotty and much more often than Shotty.
>
> I know I'm surprised ;)
> Seriously though, I understand Sanchez praising his position coach, but who else?
> Why would the QB coach be praised by others?
> Wonder what he does besides coaching MS ;)
since the second miami game, i think the offense has been run by
"suggestion". i got blasted after i posted it after the miami loss,
but i wrote that i was sure the offense was going to be taken over by
callahan or cav after that loss. sure enough, they have been
producing ever since and you hear cav's name put out there by the
players now more often than shotty's.
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TOPIC: Fake Punt
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 17 2011 7:30 am
From: buRford
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 06:23:44 -0800 (PST), John C TX <johnctxjets@gmail.com> wrote:
>X-No-Archive: Yes
>
>I was surprised they would try that fake punt until I saw this. I
>know BB takes chances but that one seemed like the risk reward was too
>great even for him.
Yeah, all teams do it that way. The Jets had that one with Weatherford, a few weeks ago.
They have to do it that way, because nobody knows what the formation will be, until the
players are on the field & set. I just think the coaches need to educate players more on
situational thinking. Chung chose a poor situation to attempt it. Even had they made it,
they still would've had 50-60 yards in front of them... just like Weatherford.
But, I think the Jets had the Pats players in an uncomfortable position, by challenging
them, so, many of the Pats vapor-locked. I don't think I ever saw Brady have so many
vapor-lock moments. The Jets really did a number on his head yesterday.
Was pretty to see ;)
>
>http://bostonherald.com/sports/football/patriots/view/20110117chung_miscalculates/
>
>
>Patrick Chung miscalculates
>Ian R. Rapoport By Ian R. Rapoport
>
>FOXBORO � Patrick Chung did the math in his head, saw the Patriots
>[team stats] had a two-man advantage on the Jets on the line, and made
>one of the most crucial decisions he�ll ever make.
>
>The second-year safety, serving as the personal protector on a punt,
>called for a fake on fourth-and-4 from the Patriots 38-yard line with
>1:14 left in the first half. He bobbled the snap and was stopped for
>no gain.
>
>The Jets capitalized four plays later with a Braylon Edwards 15-yard
>touchdown to give them a 14-3 lead at halftime in the 28-21 win.
>
>�We trust the decision Patrick makes,� punter Zoltan Mesko said.
>
>�It just didn�t work out in that particular occasion. That�s why the
>coaches trust him to run it, and that�s why they give him the green
>light, if he has it.�
>
>Coach Bill Belichick wouldn�t discuss the play in detail.
>
>�We just made a bad mistake,� he said.
>
>Chung, who declined comment after the game, counted eight Patriots
>against six Jets, giving the call for a fake.
>
>Had he caught it cleanly, who knows?
>
>�It was called on the field,� Mesko said.
>
>�There was a look, and if you had it, call it. It could have been
>called smart if it
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 17 2011 7:39 am
From: Michael
On Jan 17, 9:23 am, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> X-No-Archive: Yes
>
> I was surprised they would try that fake punt until I saw this. I
> know BB takes chances but that one seemed like the risk reward was too
> great even for him.
>
> http://bostonherald.com/sports/football/patriots/view/20110117chung_m...
>
> Patrick Chung miscalculates
> Ian R. Rapoport By Ian R. Rapoport
>
> FOXBORO — Patrick Chung did the math in his head, saw the Patriots
> [team stats] had a two-man advantage on the Jets on the line, and made
> one of the most crucial decisions he'll ever make.
>
> The second-year safety, serving as the personal protector on a punt,
> called for a fake on fourth-and-4 from the Patriots 38-yard line with
> 1:14 left in the first half. He bobbled the snap and was stopped for
> no gain.
>
> The Jets capitalized four plays later with a Braylon Edwards 15-yard
> touchdown to give them a 14-3 lead at halftime in the 28-21 win.
>
> "We trust the decision Patrick makes," punter Zoltan Mesko said.
>
> "It just didn't work out in that particular occasion. That's why the
> coaches trust him to run it, and that's why they give him the green
> light, if he has it."
>
> Coach Bill Belichick wouldn't discuss the play in detail.
>
> "We just made a bad mistake," he said.
>
> Chung, who declined comment after the game, counted eight Patriots
> against six Jets, giving the call for a fake.
>
> Had he caught it cleanly, who knows?
>
> "It was called on the field," Mesko said.
>
> "There was a look, and if you had it, call it. It could have been
> called smart if it
the fake punt and a few of the other "creative" plays the pats ran
made it appear that bb felt his goose was cooked unless he got outside
the box. after the first quarter, brady did not look like brady. he
looked badly flustered
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 17 2011 7:58 am
From: "Ray O'Hara"
"buRford" <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
news:lon8j6toc2lgshpbmgmeid5gfln7s8jdg6@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 06:23:44 -0800 (PST), John C TX
> <johnctxjets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>X-No-Archive: Yes
>>
>>I was surprised they would try that fake punt until I saw this. I
>>know BB takes chances but that one seemed like the risk reward was too
>>great even for him.
>
> Yeah, all teams do it that way. The Jets had that one with Weatherford, a
> few weeks ago.
> They have to do it that way, because nobody knows what the formation will
> be, until the
> players are on the field & set. I just think the coaches need to educate
> players more on
> situational thinking. Chung chose a poor situation to attempt it. Even
> had they made it,
> they still would've had 50-60 yards in front of them... just like
> Weatherford.
> But, I think the Jets had the Pats players in an uncomfortable position,
> by challenging
> them, so, many of the Pats vapor-locked. I don't think I ever saw Brady
> have so many
> vapor-lock moments. The Jets really did a number on his head yesterday.
> Was pretty to see ;)
>
>
>>
>>http://bostonherald.com/sports/football/patriots/view/20110117chung_miscalculates/
>>
>>
>>Patrick Chung miscalculates
>>Ian R. Rapoport By Ian R. Rapoport
>>
>>FOXBORO - Patrick Chung did the math in his head, saw the Patriots
>>[team stats] had a two-man advantage on the Jets on the line, and made
>>one of the most crucial decisions he'll ever make.
>>
>>The second-year safety, serving as the personal protector on a punt,
>>called for a fake on fourth-and-4 from the Patriots 38-yard line with
>>1:14 left in the first half. He bobbled the snap and was stopped for
>>no gain.
>>
>>The Jets capitalized four plays later with a Braylon Edwards 15-yard
>>touchdown to give them a 14-3 lead at halftime in the 28-21 win.
>>
>>"We trust the decision Patrick makes," punter Zoltan Mesko said.
>>
>>"It just didn't work out in that particular occasion. That's why the
>>coaches trust him to run it, and that's why they give him the green
>>light, if he has it."
>>
>>Coach Bill Belichick wouldn't discuss the play in detail.
>>
>>"We just made a bad mistake," he said.
>>
>>Chung, who declined comment after the game, counted eight Patriots
>>against six Jets, giving the call for a fake.
>>
>>Had he caught it cleanly, who knows?
>>
>>"It was called on the field," Mesko said.
>>
>>"There was a look, and if you had it, call it. It could have been
>>called smart if it
Brady didn't have a bad game, the Jest DBs did a great job on coverage.
all the sacks were coverage sacks, and Brady did manage to throw for 200
yards in the second half.
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 17 2011 8:08 am
From: Michael
On Jan 17, 10:39 am, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Jan 17, 9:23 am, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > X-No-Archive: Yes
>
> > I was surprised they would try that fake punt until I saw this. I
> > know BB takes chances but that one seemed like the risk reward was too
> > great even for him.
>
> >http://bostonherald.com/sports/football/patriots/view/20110117chung_m...
>
> > Patrick Chung miscalculates
> > Ian R. Rapoport By Ian R. Rapoport
>
> > FOXBORO — Patrick Chung did the math in his head, saw the Patriots
> > [team stats] had a two-man advantage on the Jets on the line, and made
> > one of the most crucial decisions he'll ever make.
>
> > The second-year safety, serving as the personal protector on a punt,
> > called for a fake on fourth-and-4 from the Patriots 38-yard line with
> > 1:14 left in the first half. He bobbled the snap and was stopped for
> > no gain.
>
> > The Jets capitalized four plays later with a Braylon Edwards 15-yard
> > touchdown to give them a 14-3 lead at halftime in the 28-21 win.
>
> > "We trust the decision Patrick makes," punter Zoltan Mesko said.
>
> > "It just didn't work out in that particular occasion. That's why the
> > coaches trust him to run it, and that's why they give him the green
> > light, if he has it."
>
> > Coach Bill Belichick wouldn't discuss the play in detail.
>
> > "We just made a bad mistake," he said.
>
> > Chung, who declined comment after the game, counted eight Patriots
> > against six Jets, giving the call for a fake.
>
> > Had he caught it cleanly, who knows?
>
> > "It was called on the field," Mesko said.
>
> > "There was a look, and if you had it, call it. It could have been
> > called smart if it
>
> the fake punt and a few of the other "creative" plays the pats ran
> made it appear that bb felt his goose was cooked unless he got outside
> the box. after the first quarter, brady did not look like brady. he
> looked badly flustered- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
never mind... just found out that chung called the fake punt... my
bad... bb was not in panic mode. chung made a mistake
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TOPIC: Nitpicking weirdness
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Date: Mon, Jan 17 2011 7:41 am
From: "JKConey"
Harris rundown by Crumpler? LT out of the wildcat fumbling the one snap
he took? McKnight gets 1 touch on the 1st play? Weatherford multiple
touchbacks after almost never doing it during the season? Folk again missing
a gimme?
--
www.myconeyislandmemories.com
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 17 2011 7:59 am
From: buRford
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:41:25 -0500, "JKConey" <jkconey@verizon.net> wrote:
> Harris rundown by Crumpler? LT out of the wildcat fumbling the one snap
>he took? McKnight gets 1 touch on the 1st play? Weatherford multiple
>touchbacks after almost never doing it during the season? Folk again missing
>a gimme?
I'd like to see more McKnight. We could use some real speed, & quickness, in the
backfield... on occasion.
Isn't it fun to nitpick after a nice win ;)
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TOPIC: BB's mistakes
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 17 2011 7:42 am
From: "JKConey"
Fake punt in your own end? Challenging a catch and losing? Long time
consuming drive with zero points. Having 2 weeks to prepare, and laying an
egg.
--
www.myconeyislandmemories.com
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 17 2011 7:56 am
From: "Ray O'Hara"
"JKConey" <jkconey@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:ih1o1q$aft$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> Fake punt in your own end? Challenging a catch and losing? Long time
> consuming drive with zero points. Having 2 weeks to prepare, and laying an
> egg.
>
> --
>
> www.myconeyislandmemories.com
Patrick Chung called for the fake on his own initiative, BB didn't make that
call.
the long drive would have been fine if they had scored, there was plenty of
time left.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 17 2011 8:02 am
From: buRford
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:42:51 -0500, "JKConey" <jkconey@verizon.net> wrote:
> Fake punt in your own end? Challenging a catch and losing? Long time
>consuming drive with zero points. Having 2 weeks to prepare, and laying an
>egg.
Another Myth exposed.
BB is the greatest, amazing, god-like human-being, if given two weeks to prepare.
Of course, unless his opponent has a solid week to prepare for him ;)
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TOPIC: We're doomed... Pundits 101 rant...
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Date: Mon, Jan 17 2011 7:47 am
From: buRford
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 06:59:00 -0800 (PST), John C TX <johnctxjets@gmail.com> wrote:
>X-No-Archive: Yes
>
>> OMG... So I wake up this morning, turn on ESPN-NY radio, and it's one pundit after the
>> other, giving their *take* on the *State of the NFL Union."
>> Shortly thereafter, the radio went off.
>> We had all these people, who until yesterday said one thing - - and were wrong - - give
>> their *expert* opinions, and start saying the complete opposite today. All being done
>> with a straight face.
>>
>> I'm thinkin' of startin' *The US School of Punditry,* and doing an infomercial, with the
>> tag... "You, too, can become an obsequious, ignorant, blowhard... and make millions!"
>> "No experience necessary." "For 4 payments of $29.95, I'll send you everything you need
>> to know, to enter this lucrative field, on 12 blank DVDs."
>> This may be the solution to current job solution... there certainly are enough Media
>> outlets ;)
>>
>> The biggest buffoon of them all, was Tony Dungy.
>> The guy is wrong about everything, then after his endless recent rants saying how
>> unstoppable the Pats were, he goes into a rant about how there are no dominating teams
>> this year. And then starts talking about his new book, on how people can be better people
>> (or some such nonsense). Dungy, the no-nothing about football, also an *expert* on
>> Peoplehood.
>>
>> Whether it's Sports, Politics, Health, Making Money... whatever - - when did this Country
>> turn into this shallow, robotic, in yer face, waste of time?
>> I mean, when I was young you had your commentators, but they were few, and they really
>> were knowledgeable about particular areas. It's just ridiculous now.
>>
>> Anyway, forget about next week, People. The Jets are doomed.
>> Ben is on a roll, and the guy with hair is back, & will single-handedly make more
>> receptions against the Jets, than Braylon, Cotch, Holmes & Keller will catch combined.
>> And if somehow the Jets luck out, and get by Pittsburgh, they'll face the greatest QB ever
>> created by our alien overlords - - Aaron the Destroyer.
>>
>> As an aside, anyone starting to think that Rex may actually have the players, in the
>> perfect frame of mind, to win 2 more games?
>> I wonder what Trent Dilfer thinks?
>
>b, I agree but don't get caught up in letting these idiots aggravate
>you. They are no better than Hannity & Maher in that at best they aim
>to make you crazy with the other reality is that some are just lazy
>and run with conventional wisdom.
It's not aggravating... just makes me sad.
I wouldn't put Hannity with Maher. Olbermann would do, but Maher's a comedian... Hannity
is just a Goebbels wannabe ;) Do you watch Maher much? He actually has lots of
Libertarian views. He's not your typical Pinko swine ;)
>
> It is too easy, & obviously too effective, to play the "we get no
>respect"card.
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TOPIC: By the way...
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Date: Mon, Jan 17 2011 7:48 am
From: buRford
The Empire State Building was green last night.
The City is starting to earn its wings ;)
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TOPIC: Bart Scott was a bit pissed after game...
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/b02d269dc7a49dd6?hl=en
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Date: Mon, Jan 17 2011 7:57 am
From: John Vamp
On Jan 17, 9:52 am, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 02:55:49 -0800 (PST), John Vamp <jvampate...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Jan 16, 10:31 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> >> Check out this short interview after the game...
>
> >>http://es.pn/gaKofG
>
> >That link doesn't work for me. But why would he be upset? They just
> >had the biggest win of Scott's career....if that doesn't make him
> >happy, what in the world would?
>
> Here's the full link, John...http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/4213/video-bart-scott...
>
> He's angry at the Media, for the disrespect the Jets get.
> What will make him happy?
> I suspect a Vince trophy will probably do ;)
Here's the line that I find very curious: "All we hear is about their
defense! They can't stop a nosebleed!"
Um, I didn't see *one* media figure lauding the Patriots defense
heading into this game. All we heard all year long was that the Pats'
D was one of the worst in the league, and how can the Patriots hope to
stop anybody. I tried to stand up for the D a little here in this
group, but I doubt Scott reads this newsgroup.
I can understand thumping your chest after a big win. Scott and the
Jets deserve to do that. I can even understand playing the "the
Patriots are overrated" card after the game. But to say "all we hear
is about their defense"????? *NOBODY* was talking big about the
Patriots' defense. Bart Scott, what on *earth* are you talking about?
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 17 2011 8:08 am
From: buRford
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 07:57:50 -0800 (PST), John Vamp <jvampatella@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Jan 17, 9:52 am, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 02:55:49 -0800 (PST), John Vamp <jvampate...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Jan 16, 10:31 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>> >> Check out this short interview after the game...
>>
>> >>http://es.pn/gaKofG
>>
>> >That link doesn't work for me. But why would he be upset? They just
>> >had the biggest win of Scott's career....if that doesn't make him
>> >happy, what in the world would?
>>
>> Here's the full link, John...http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/4213/video-bart-scott...
>>
>> He's angry at the Media, for the disrespect the Jets get.
>> What will make him happy?
>> I suspect a Vince trophy will probably do ;)
>
>Here's the line that I find very curious: "All we hear is about their
>defense! They can't stop a nosebleed!"
>
>Um, I didn't see *one* media figure lauding the Patriots defense
>heading into this game. All we heard all year long was that the Pats'
>D was one of the worst in the league, and how can the Patriots hope to
>stop anybody. I tried to stand up for the D a little here in this
>group, but I doubt Scott reads this newsgroup.
>
>I can understand thumping your chest after a big win. Scott and the
>Jets deserve to do that. I can even understand playing the "the
>Patriots are overrated" card after the game. But to say "all we hear
>is about their defense"????? *NOBODY* was talking big about the
>Patriots' defense. Bart Scott, what on *earth* are you talking about?
I heard a lot about how the D would throttle the Jets O, the Jets wouldn't be able to rush
on the *stout* D, how they'd eat Sanchez alive, and how the D stats for the Pats were
really misleading... that they were better than their stats. At the same time, the Jets D
has been ridiculed in the Media.
Scott's a moron, but I understand where's he's coming from. He's the classic guy, with a
huge chip on his shoulder, for whatever reason.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 17 2011 8:23 am
From: John Vamp
On Jan 17, 11:08 am, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 07:57:50 -0800 (PST), John Vamp <jvampate...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Jan 17, 9:52 am, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 02:55:49 -0800 (PST), John Vamp <jvampate...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Jan 16, 10:31 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> >> >> Check out this short interview after the game...
>
> >> >>http://es.pn/gaKofG
>
> >> >That link doesn't work for me. But why would he be upset? They just
> >> >had the biggest win of Scott's career....if that doesn't make him
> >> >happy, what in the world would?
>
> >> Here's the full link, John...http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/4213/video-bart-scott...
>
> >> He's angry at the Media, for the disrespect the Jets get.
> >> What will make him happy?
> >> I suspect a Vince trophy will probably do ;)
>
> >Here's the line that I find very curious: "All we hear is about their
> >defense! They can't stop a nosebleed!"
>
> >Um, I didn't see *one* media figure lauding the Patriots defense
> >heading into this game. All we heard all year long was that the Pats'
> >D was one of the worst in the league, and how can the Patriots hope to
> >stop anybody. I tried to stand up for the D a little here in this
> >group, but I doubt Scott reads this newsgroup.
>
> >I can understand thumping your chest after a big win. Scott and the
> >Jets deserve to do that. I can even understand playing the "the
> >Patriots are overrated" card after the game. But to say "all we hear
> >is about their defense"????? *NOBODY* was talking big about the
> >Patriots' defense. Bart Scott, what on *earth* are you talking about?
>
> I heard a lot about how the D would throttle the Jets O, the Jets wouldn't be able to rush
> on the *stout* D, how they'd eat Sanchez alive, and how the D stats for the Pats were
> really misleading... that they were better than their stats. At the same time, the Jets D
> has been ridiculed in the Media.
>
> Scott's a moron, but I understand where's he's coming from. He's the classic guy, with a
> huge chip on his shoulder, for whatever reason.
Where did you hear all that nonsense. Who on earth ridiculed the
Jets' D? If the NY media was saying all this, ok. I didn't see or
read much nationally that made fun of the Jets' D or amplified the
Pats' D.
I think Scott is talking out of his butt on this one. But hey, if he
convinced himself that it's true and it motivated him, more power to
him.
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TOPIC: Wearing the GREEN
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/ca040c50b6bcf543?hl=en
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Date: Mon, Jan 17 2011 8:06 am
From: "yoyodog"
"JKConey" <jkconey@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:ih0ej5$qtu$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> As you guys know I go all the way back, and have worn the green on
> Monday mornings after some AWFUL losses and seasons, taking heat and
> giggles from every damn friend and stranger alike. Well tomorrow I'll be
> wearing my throw back #12 jersey to work, and really really enjoying it!
>
> --
>
> www.myconeyislandmemories.com
I forget what you do for a living but I'm guessing it's not wall street?
;-)
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TOPIC: Jets will be a GREASE STAIN in the next round.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/9f8a5f27b0771791?hl=en
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Date: Mon, Jan 17 2011 8:07 am
From: Professor
On Jan 16, 9:10 pm, Jottland <jottl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jan 16, 8:45 pm, Beiselbub© <yank_ees_s...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 16, 6:42 pm,Jottland<jottl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Suicide. Webcam. Do it.....NOW!!
>
> > THAT"S Pathetic, tard.
>
> > (I don't have 26K posts, but you are a loser.)
>
> 25745, but who's counting?
"Jottland" aka "Jim S" aka "Splat!" is a pathetic serial troll who has
no life and no friends due to his severe mental illness. Trolling
newsgroups is the peak of his miserable existence, he is loathed by
those on all the newsgroups he pollutes with his presence. Suicide
would be his best option although his Ecuadorian wife may beat him to
it.
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TOPIC: Are the NE Patriots the new chokers of the NFL?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/b66774fffc10b56e?hl=en
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Date: Mon, Jan 17 2011 8:22 am
From: "yoyodog"
Are the NE Patriots the new chokers of the NFL?
2007 Loss to the NY Giants in the SB
2008 Did not make the playoffs
2009 Loss to the Baltimore Ravens in the Wild Card - ONE-AND-DONE
2010 Loss the the NY Jets in the Divisional round - ONE-AND-DONE
I LOVE the fact that because of the bye the Pats got, the season amounts to
another ONE-AND-DONE playoff loss season... That would be only 2 playoff
game appearances since 2007 and both were ONE-AND-DONE losses!
That's got to sting! :-)
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TOPIC: early thoughts on Steelers
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/0cd7b932441b0aa1?hl=en
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Date: Mon, Jan 17 2011 8:24 am
From: Tutor
Pittsburgh is a much better team than the Pats, IMO. They have a real
RB in Mendenhall (Pats running game was centered around Danny
Woodhead... PATHETIC), The pass rush is 100 times more intense than
what the Pats have and the secondary and run stopping ability of the
DL/LB are vastly to suerior than those of the Pats. I also like
Wallace better than the overhyped runt Branch (who has never done shit
without brady and now does nothing wioth Brady). And not for a minute
should anyone underestimate what Ward is capable of, even in his
advanced age. The Steelers OL is beat up a bit so I'm thinking the
Jets can force Roethlisberger to scramble around a lot. But this
rapist tends to be very successful, in fact sometimes deadly, when he
throws on the run. Roethlisbergger also doesn't fold like a paper
doll when hit like Brady does. In any event, the Steelers should (on
paper at least) be a much more formidable opponent than the overrated
Patriots.
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