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Today's topics:
* Contador out for one year - 4 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/d6dee1f3ec4c91eb?hl=en
* Deep thought - 4 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/403f39d864599d44?hl=en
* Mr. Vaughters - 6 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/f4a7f041c71016e6?hl=en
* 1. Vos 2. Compton 3. Nash - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/f3ed7b7a5b40a805?hl=en
* Magilla finally crosses the Rubicon - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/24e3026150d503ac?hl=en
* Liz Hatch Update - 5 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/04bd2b3a589ba68b?hl=en
* Ragbrai 2011 route - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/a8bea14fa1594e0d?hl=en
* If anything this weekend has proved to me that we can RBR without him - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/77775364e1279340?hl=en
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TOPIC: Contador out for one year
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/d6dee1f3ec4c91eb?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 30 2011 12:25 am
From: Simply Fred
Brad Anders wrote:
> Only on r.b.r could a person making a comment about their poor word
> choice lead to two other guys entering their grandfathers in a cage
> fight to the death.
Just wait until they get to their mothers.
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 30 2011 7:13 am
From: RicodJour
On Jan 29, 11:47 pm, Nagurski <nagur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Grandpa could beat your ass too, you stupid fuck.
Dumbass, this isn't rec.football.brain.damage. Do try to elevate your
level of insult to fit the surroundings. Thanks.
R
PS Sorry your foosball team lost, but that's no reason to be grumpy.
Try a fantasy league.
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 30 2011 8:47 am
From: Anton Berlin
On Jan 30, 2:25 am, Simply Fred <n...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> Brad Anders wrote:
> > Only on r.b.r could a person making a comment about their poor word
> > choice lead to two other guys entering their grandfathers in a cage
> > fight to the death.
>
> Just wait until they get to their mothers.
Everyone already got to Nagurski's mother ( badda bing ! )
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 30 2011 9:41 am
From: Simply Fred
Brad Anders wrote:
>>> Only on r.b.r could a person making a comment about their poor word
>>> choice lead to two other guys entering their grandfathers in a cage
>>> fight to the death.
Simply Fred wrote:
>> Just wait until they get to their mothers.
Anton Berlin wrote:
> Everyone already got to Nagurski's mother ( badda bing ! )
You can't complain about the lead out.
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TOPIC: Deep thought
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/403f39d864599d44?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 30 2011 1:23 am
From: Amit Ghosh
On Jan 29, 5:05 pm, ilan <ilan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "If you're getting accused of doping, you're probably doing something
> right"\
dumbass,
or you're doping.
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 30 2011 4:53 am
From: "A. Dumas"
Amit Ghosh wrote:
> On Jan 29, 5:05 pm, ilan wrote:
>> "If you're getting accused of doping, you're probably doing something
>> right"
>
> or you're doping.
Or both.
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 30 2011 6:19 am
From: Brad Anders
On Jan 30, 5:53 am, "A. Dumas" <alexan...@dumas.fr.invalid> wrote:
> Amit Ghosh wrote:
> > On Jan 29, 5:05 pm, ilan wrote:
> >> "If you're getting accused of doping, you're probably doing something
> >> right"
>
> > or you're doping.
>
> Or both.
Which brings us to the "Armstrong dilemma" in 1999:
1. Decision: Don't use EPO. Facts: EPO is extremely effective, widely
available, and essentially undetectable. All the other top riders are
known to be using it. Outcome: Lose TdF, lose out on big payouts,
watch dopers beat you when you know you have as much or more physical
talent. Be labeled a "loser" by fatty masters r.b.r. ilk, and a
"whiner" if you say anything about the others doping. Laff, Anton, and
Zenon all hate your guts for never winning a TdF and rip on you in
r.b.r until you retire in disgrace with X "virtual tour wins". Date
women who look like Tammy Thomas.
2. Decision: Use EPO. Facts: same as above, you're now on a level
playing field with the other top riders. Outcome: Win TdF, big payout,
big opportunities, know those you beat had the same advantages as you.
Ultimately be labeled a "doper" by fatty masters r.b.r. ilk, just like
every other single top pro from your era. Laff, Anton, and Zenon all
hate your guts for doping. Date many women who look like your mom.
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 30 2011 6:38 am
From: Fred
On Jan 30, 7:19 am, Brad Anders <pband...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 30, 5:53 am, "A. Dumas" <alexan...@dumas.fr.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Amit Ghosh wrote:
> > > On Jan 29, 5:05 pm, ilan wrote:
> > >> "If you're getting accused of doping, you're probably doing something
> > >> right"
>
> > > or you're doping.
>
> > Or both.
>
> Which brings us to the "Armstrong dilemma" in 1999:
>
> 1. Decision: Don't use EPO. Facts: EPO is extremely effective, widely
> available, and essentially undetectable. All the other top riders are
> known to be using it. Outcome: Lose TdF, lose out on big payouts,
> watch dopers beat you when you know you have as much or more physical
> talent. Be labeled a "loser" by fatty masters r.b.r. ilk, and a
> "whiner" if you say anything about the others doping. Laff, Anton, and
> Zenon all hate your guts for never winning a TdF and rip on you in
> r.b.r until you retire in disgrace with X "virtual tour wins". Date
> women who look like Tammy Thomas.
>
> 2. Decision: Use EPO. Facts: same as above, you're now on a level
> playing field with the other top riders. Outcome: Win TdF, big payout,
> big opportunities, know those you beat had the same advantages as you.
> Ultimately be labeled a "doper" by fatty masters r.b.r. ilk, just like
> every other single top pro from your era. Laff, Anton, and Zenon all
> hate your guts for doping. Date many women who look like your mom.
when you put it like that...
Fred
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TOPIC: Mr. Vaughters
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/f4a7f041c71016e6?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 30 2011 1:53 am
From: Simply Fred
Phil H wrote:
> Lafferty-free
Sounds vaguely organic.
== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 30 2011 8:27 am
From: Anton Berlin
On Jan 29, 11:35 pm, Brad Anders <pband...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Anton - you definitely need to try Pizzeria Bianco here in Phoenix. Is
> it the best? Who knows? But it's definitely worth the trip. My other
> favorite place to eat here is Barrio Cafe, the best Mexican restaurant
> I've been to.
Chris Bianco is a legend - many say his is the best. I love his
interviews - he's very straight forward.
http://www.gourmet.com/restaurants/2009/05/chris-biancos-pizza-philosophy
-------------------------
(On any topic you want to get into, Bianco dispenses profane folk
wisdom like a vending machine.
On eating local: "People ask for clams on the pizza," he said. "Show
me some fuckin' water in Phoenix and I'll put fuckin' clams on your
pizza." )
-------------------------
When I come to Phoenix to try Bianco - I'll add Barrio to the list.
One can't eat pizza all of the time - Thanks for the rec.
== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 30 2011 11:18 am
From: Frederick the Great
In article
<fa4968bf-c311-4ed1-a9dd-c2fe97112dd7@u11g2000prk.googlegroups.com>,
Anton Berlin <truth_88888@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The secret as any pizzaiolo will tell you is the dough. I've been
> making bread for 20 + years from a parisian culture that was 153 years
> old when I got it. I've been trained by one of the most well known
> artisan bakers in the world only to advance my ability to make
> pizza.
153 years old. I can get a first rate sour dough
culture going in a month. Any baker can.
--
Old Fritz
== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 30 2011 12:08 pm
From: Fredmaster of Brainerd
On Jan 30, 12:18 pm, Frederick the Great <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> In article
> <fa4968bf-c311-4ed1-a9dd-c2fe97112...@u11g2000prk.googlegroups.com>,
> Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > The secret as any pizzaiolo will tell you is the dough. I've been
> > making bread for 20 + years from a parisian culture that was 153 years
> > old when I got it. I've been trained by one of the most well known
> > artisan bakers in the world only to advance my ability to make
> > pizza.
>
> 153 years old. I can get a first rate sour dough
> culture going in a month. Any baker can.
Dumbass,
If you didn't keep killing your sourdough culture
you wouldn't need to be so good at getting it
started in a month.
My dad made his own sourdough starter and it's
now old enough to do Masters races. It probably
rises faster than the average Masters racer as well,
so to speak.
Kneadmaster Ben
== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 30 2011 1:07 pm
From: Anton Berlin
On Jan 30, 1:18 pm, Frederick the Great <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> In article
> <fa4968bf-c311-4ed1-a9dd-c2fe97112...@u11g2000prk.googlegroups.com>,
> Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > The secret as any pizzaiolo will tell you is the dough. I've been
> > making bread for 20 + years from a parisian culture that was 153 years
> > old when I got it. I've been trained by one of the most well known
> > artisan bakers in the world only to advance my ability to make
> > pizza.
>
> 153 years old. I can get a first rate sour dough
> culture going in a month. Any baker can.
>
> --
> Old Fritz
Age isn't everything - but these older cultures do have a remarkable
way of staying alive after dormancy. I keep several others and steal
versions where ever I am able. Many of them I throw away after a
month or so because they don't proof out to be better than anything I
already have and there is a risk from them infecting one of my prized
cultures that I keep 2 separate samples of at all times and pull and
store a dry sample from once every year.
I have a 300 yr old version that sleeps for 6 months in the fridge and
after 3 or 4 feedings it ferments like a teenager.
But as a baker will tell you it's not just the yeast but the symbiosis
between the yeast and the bacteria. What ever is in my culture known
as "Paris A" and "B" is unique to any breads I've ever had. Even
the 800 yr old + breads in Prague and Paris don't have the complexity
that this one has.
Lastly Fritz - your wrong in generalizing that just access to the
ingredients is enough to make good bread - just as access to a Colnago
doesn't make one a good cyclist.
I have been making bread for 20+ years and each year I learn more
about it than all of the previous years put together. Understanding
finer points such as 'falling number' extensibility, hydration
impacts, alpha amylase activity, impacts of autolysing, retarding ,
temperature manipulations and their interactions have gone to make
some of the best breads (and pizzas) I've ever made but still I have a
lot to learn.
== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 30 2011 1:09 pm
From: Anton Berlin
> My dad made his own sourdough starter and it's
> now old enough to do Masters races. It probably
> rises faster than the average Masters racer as well,
> so to speak.
>
> Kneadmaster Ben
What kind of breads does he make? Where did he capture the culture?
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TOPIC: 1. Vos 2. Compton 3. Nash
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/f3ed7b7a5b40a805?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 30 2011 2:59 am
From: Fred Flintstein
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 30 2011 7:01 am
From: RicodJour
On Jan 30, 5:59 am, Fred Flintstein <bob.schwa...@sbcREMOVEglobal.net>
wrote:
2nd place - the new 11th. Oh wait, when you said Kf'nC would finish
out side the top 10, you were using binary! Hmm, that still doesn't
work for your prediction.
There's always next year. :)~
R
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TOPIC: Magilla finally crosses the Rubicon
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/24e3026150d503ac?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 30 2011 7:16 am
From: RicodJour
On Jan 29, 4:42 am, Simply Fred <n...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> Anton Berlin wrote:
> >http://inyourwater.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/jesus_and_the_dinosaur...
>
> Wet. Sarah shot them from a helicopter
> <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/28/palin-claimed-dinosaurs-a_n_...>
Damn. I read that as Wet Sarah shot them. I was sorely disappointed
to find the link wasn't porn.
Stop teasing.
R
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 30 2011 8:08 am
From: Simply Fred
Anton Berlin wrote:
>>> http://inyourwater.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/jesus_and_the_dinosaur...
Simply Fred<n...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>> Wet. Sarah shot them from a helicopter
>> <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/28/palin-claimed-dinosaurs-a_n_...>
RicodJour wrote:
> Damn. I read that as Wet Sarah shot them. I was sorely disappointed
> to find the link wasn't porn.
<http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4536820/Whos.Nailin.Paylin.2008.XXX.DVDRip.x264-x264Avengers>
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TOPIC: Liz Hatch Update
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/04bd2b3a589ba68b?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 30 2011 7:45 am
From: Zenon
.
.
http://twitter.com/Liz_Hatch/status/30617373052502016
.
.
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 30 2011 8:07 am
From: TheCoz
On Jan 30, 9:45 am, Zenon <zenon_jask...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> .
> .http://twitter.com/Liz_Hatch/status/30617373052502016
> .
> .
STD
Coz
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 30 2011 8:35 am
From: Anton Berlin
We're all praying several hours a day for the health and return to top
racing form of the cycling star Liz Hatch in my prayer group. Just as
we have been for the last 5 years.
However, we have been greatly disappointed in god's response so far
as Liz barely seems able to finish a race let alone a training ride.
As well, our prayer that she blow a dentist to get free dental
implants also hasn't worked yet. (Between you and me - some in the
group are beginning to suspect that Jesus may NOT in fact be the son
of god as he claimed.)
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 30 2011 8:46 am
From: Anton Berlin
On Jan 30, 10:07 am, TheCoz <cycled...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 30, 9:45 am, Zenon <zenon_jask...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > .
> > .http://twitter.com/Liz_Hatch/status/30617373052502016
> > .
> > .
>
> STD
> Coz
That's a huge leap of faith Coz - as it assumes that someone would be
willing to sleep with her without using rubber gloves, condoms and 2
quarts of disinfectant as recommend by the United Nations Health Guide
- 'Sleeping with LH - A Safety and Survival Guide 2010 Edition IV"
Little know fact that this pamphlet has been translated into over 178
languages as part of the UNs effort to eradicate STDs worldwide.
It's just a theory supported by a vast majority of scientists and
epidemiologists - but they believe that 'patient zero' pretends to
ride a bike as a cover for spreading a host of STDs (some you've never
ever heard of) but there's one that makes an infected individual take
on multiple aliases then post into RBR her twitter updates. Can
actually be caught just by riding the same velodrome as P-0 while the
fungus infections that can be caught from her saddle are legendary. -
Also may be a mad cow link from a trip to England in the late 90s.
Scary stuff.
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 30 2011 9:42 am
From: Simply Fred
Anton Berlin wrote:
> We're all praying several hours a day for the health and return to top
> racing form of the cycling star Liz Hatch in my prayer group. Just as
> we have been for the last 5 years.
>
> However, we have been greatly disappointed in god's response so far
> as Liz barely seems able to finish a race let alone a training ride.
>
> As well, our prayer that she blow a dentist to get free dental
> implants also hasn't worked yet. (Between you and me - some in the
> group are beginning to suspect that Jesus may NOT in fact be the son
> of god as he claimed.)
And Liz is the virgin mother.
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TOPIC: Ragbrai 2011 route
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/a8bea14fa1594e0d?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 30 2011 8:53 am
From: Anton Berlin
That is truly a list of the worst weekends ever. Hell, worst places
to stop and buy gas at Casey's General Store ever.
Why doesn't California start a ragbrai like event that would include
Petaluma, Napa, Somoma etc ?
Maybe help fix Arnolds deficit.
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TOPIC: If anything this weekend has proved to me that we can RBR without him
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/77775364e1279340?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 30 2011 12:47 pm
From: Anton Berlin
Even without him as a subject the citizens of RBR have managed to
debate, flame, ridicule and seethe with anger and contempt at one
another for differences in opinion, minor spelling errors, use of the
English language, archaic and useless knowledge and even slights
unperceived by all except the twisted inner workings of the contumely
sensitive and deranged minds that populate this space.
Oh yes - we can suffer upon each other without him.
In the spirit of that I'd like to say fuck each and everyone of you
that don't agree 100% with any illogical rant of mine and fuck the
ones that agree for being kiss-ups and yes men. I get enough of that
shit at work.
Sincerely though, RBR reminds me of the bike shop where I used to
spend more time in the winter and barely any in the summer debating
the observations of the world between training rides or while my bike
was being repaired. (I used to destroy equipment on a regular basis)
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