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TOPIC: Mother Released From Jail. Her Crime? School Choice!
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 2 2011 8:26 pm
From: "mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu"
On Feb 1, 1:14 pm, eric <warth...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 31, 10:15 pm, "mr d...@harvarduniversity.edu"
>
> <foster...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > How on earth did trying to provide your
> > children with a better education became a crime in the United States?
>
> Probably some Republicans living in affluent suburbs
Ohhhh puuulleeaasee!
This is a HUGE Liberal district!!!
They were pissed because the Lib "teachers" didn't have total control
of the Liberal agenda!!!
Do the work before you post!
mr dude
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TOPIC: The 20 worst criminals in the NFL
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 3 2011 1:50 am
From: The NFL Report
No. 1: Robert Rozier - White hating serial killer negro.
After his playing career, Rozier did time for a series of petty crimes.
After his release he found Yahweh ben Yahweh's "Temple of Love."
From there, Rozier went on to join Yahweh's secret group, "The
Brotherhood." To gain entrance into this group, applicants had to murder a
"white devil" and return with a body part to prove it.
Rozier admitted to killing not one, but seven "white devils."
No. 2: Tommy Kane - Murdering negro.
Tommy Kane is currently serving time after pleading guilty to second-
degree murder. The charges stem from the murder of his wife.
The allegations were that Kane and his wife got into an argument after she
said she wanted a divorce. They then say he grabbed her by the hair,
dragged her into the kitchen, smashed her head against the floor and
stabbed her in the neck.
No. 3: Rae Carruth - Baby killing negro.
Rae Carruth's girlfriend, the woman carrying his baby, was shot four times
in a drive-by shooting. She survived long enough to call 9-1-1.
She described to the dispatchers that Carruth pulled up in front of her
and stopped his car so that she could not move. The assailants soon drove
up next to her and shot her. Carruth received an 18-24 year sentence for
his involvement in the crime.
No. 4: O.J. Simpson - Murdering nigger.
You know the story, right? O.J. was accused of murdering his wife and her
lover. He was found not guilty, but later was found guilty in a wrongful
death suit filed by the victim's family.
O.J. is currently in prison for his role in an armed robbery and
kidnapping case. Simpson and his accomplices broke into the hotel room of
the victims and attempted to take sports memorabilia at gunpoint.
No. 5: Jim Dunaway - Killer redneck.
Jim Dunway's ex-wife was found dead in a swimming pool. Autopsy reports
indicated that she died from a fractured skull prior to be being placed in
the pool.
Dunaway was charged with murder, but not indicted. He later was found
guilty in a wrongful death suit filed by his children.
No. 6: Darryl Henley - Negro.
Henley was convicted of trafficking cocaine, a charge in and of itself
serious enough to warrant consideration for this list.
Henley, however, went above and beyond that, and while on trial he was
found to have contacted people to kill the judge presiding over his
trafficking case.
Henley received a 41-year sentence for these crimes.
No. 7: Alonzo Spellman - Negro.
Spellman is another member on this list who suffers from repeat anger
management issues.
His temper has led to an emergency landing of a flight after allegedly,
among other things, Spellman told the pilot he was about to rip his throat
out.
He also has faced weapons charges and was involved in a standoff with
police while barricaded in his publicist's home.
No. 8: Ray Lewis - Murdering negro.
Ray Lewis was arrested for two counts of first-degree murder after he was
involved in a brawl that led to the stabbing and death of one of the
people involved. Lewis ended up pleading guilty to obstruction of justice
and the charges were dropped.
He admitted to misleading police with his statements and the suit he was
wearing during the fight was never found. Lewis ended up settling for an
undisclosed amount with the victim's family.
No. 9: Gene Atkins - Negro.
Gene Atkins has a unique and diverse rap sheet. He was charged and later
acquitted of firebombing a business associate.
He later was arrested after his wife called the police claiming Atkins had
pushed her against a wall, beat her with a remote control and bit her. The
police arrived to find him barricaded in his house. When told he was under
arrest, Atkins disagreed by saying, "No, I am not," and then punching the
officer in the throat.
No. 10: Leonard Little - Dumb negro.
Leonard Little was driving drunk, ran a red light and crashed into a
mother of two and killed her.
Little is certainly not alone in the NFL vehicular manslaughter charges,
but what places him higher is that a few years later, he was again
arrested for a DUI after he failed three field sobriety tests.
No. 11: Dwayne Goodrich - Negro.
Goodrich is currently serving time for a conviction on vehicular
manslaughter and hit-and-run charges.
These charges stemmed from an incident where Goodrich's truck struck and
killed two people who were trying to rescue a man from a burning vehicle.
Goodrich's vehicle then fled the scene.
No. 12: Lawrence Phillips - Dumb violent negro.
Lawrence Phillips may be the poster boy for anger control problems. He has
been convicted several times of assaulting women. The most notable
probably came into college when he broke into his ex's dorm and then
dragged her by the hair down three flights of stairs.
Philips is currently serving a 30-year sentence after he tried to run over
a group of teens after they got into an argument during a pick-up football
game.
No. 13: Michael Vick - Would be dead in any decent society negro.
Michael Vick did things so horrible to dogs that it has earned him a spot
on this list ahead of people whose actions resulted in the loss of human
lives.
I'm sure you know the story, but the quick version is Michael Vick earned
himself a 23-month jail sentence for his role in funding, promoting and
facilitating a dog-fighting ring and his subsequent abuse and murder of
his dogs.
No. 14: Barret Robbins - Mentally disturbed redneck.
Barret Robbins missed the Super Bowl due to a bipolar-fueled alcohol binge
to Mexico the night before the game. Things went downhill for Robbins from
there.
Robbins was charged with three counts of attempted felony murder after
police were called due to his trespassing. Robbins was reportedly found
crouching in a woman's bathroom. He charged the officers, who shot him
twice, with one bullet piercing his heart.
This was not enough to instantly subdue Robbins, as he slapped away the
gun and knocked the officer, who shot him, to the ground.
No. 15: Jim Brown - Woman beating and raping negro.
Brown has been arrested and served time on numerous occasions throughout
his life for assaulting and threatening women.
No. 16: Donte Stallworth - Negro.
Donte Stallworth pled guilty to vehicular manslaughter charges. Stallworth
admitted to being under the influence at the time of the accident.
Stallworth ended up serving 24 days in prison and serving a one-year
suspension from the NFL. For his part, Stallworth has kept his nose clean
since and as Stallworth says, "[He's] become a better decision-maker."
No. 17: Cecil Collins - Negro.
Cecil Collins is currently serving a 15-year burglary sentence. He broke
into the home of a married woman he knew from the gym.
Collins admitted that he broke in to watch the woman sleep.
No. 18: Justin Strzelczyk - Steroid abusing redneck.
Strzelczyk has far from the longest rap sheet on this list. In fact, his
placement revolves around one night. Strzelczyk was involved in an
accident and fled the scene.
He then led cops on a 40-mile chase. During the chase he allegedly threw
beer bottles at the officers and flipped them off. The chase ended when
Strzelczyk crashed head-on into a semi truck carrying flammable liquids,
resulting in the pictured aftermath and his death.
No. 19: Lawrence Taylor - Child molesting negro.
In the immortal words of Rick James, "Cocaine is a helluva drug." It also
seems to be the source of the majority of Lawrence Taylor's numerous run-
ins with the law.
His latest run-in with the law was the most serious. Taylor was charged
with statutory rape involving an incident with a 16-year-old call girl. He
ended up pleading guilty to one count of patronizing a prostitute and one
count of sexual misconduct.
No. 20: Adam "Pac-Man" Jones - Really stupid negro.
Jones worked hard to make this list. His crimes largely involve, but are
not limited to, activities taking place around strip clubs. He has beat up
strippers, bodyguards (his own) and other patrons of the club.
The most intense of his strip club incidents ended in a gun fight that
left one man paralyzed.
Honorable mention: Benjamin Todd "Ben" Roethlisberger - Redneck serial
rapist.
"Big Ben" has been publicly accused three times of raping young women. In
all three cases, criminal charges were eventually dropped in favor of
civil settlements. The law of statistics says if there were 3 that
cropped up in the public eye, there were probably 27 that didn't. The
woman who shoots him while in commission of rape, should be given a
national award for ridding America of an unrepentant serial rapist.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 3 2011 3:24 pm
From: BG@yahoo.com
>No. 1: The Buffalo Bills
Taking fans hard earned money for tickets and then
failing to even try to win the game..
The Bills are so bad my kindergarden kid's team could
beat them.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 3 2011 6:31 pm
From: "Lars Bernstein"
In article <0e75329fd33af68e80dfd14c3d47cff1@tioat.net>
The NFL Report <reports@Use-Author-Supplied-Address.invalid>
wrote:
>
> No. 1: Robert Rozier - White hating serial killer negro.
>
> After his playing career, Rozier did time for a series of petty crimes.
> After his release he found Yahweh ben Yahweh's "Temple of Love."
>
> From there, Rozier went on to join Yahweh's secret group, "The
> Brotherhood." To gain entrance into this group, applicants had to murder a
> "white devil" and return with a body part to prove it.
>
> Rozier admitted to killing not one, but seven "white devils."
>
> No. 2: Tommy Kane - Murdering negro.
>
> Tommy Kane is currently serving time after pleading guilty to second-
> degree murder. The charges stem from the murder of his wife.
>
> The allegations were that Kane and his wife got into an argument after she
> said she wanted a divorce. They then say he grabbed her by the hair,
> dragged her into the kitchen, smashed her head against the floor and
> stabbed her in the neck.
>
> No. 3: Rae Carruth - Baby killing negro.
>
> Rae Carruth's girlfriend, the woman carrying his baby, was shot four times
> in a drive-by shooting. She survived long enough to call 9-1-1.
>
> She described to the dispatchers that Carruth pulled up in front of her
> and stopped his car so that she could not move. The assailants soon drove
> up next to her and shot her. Carruth received an 18-24 year sentence for
> his involvement in the crime.
>
> No. 4: O.J. Simpson - Murdering nigger.
>
> You know the story, right? O.J. was accused of murdering his wife and her
> lover. He was found not guilty, but later was found guilty in a wrongful
> death suit filed by the victim's family.
>
> O.J. is currently in prison for his role in an armed robbery and
> kidnapping case. Simpson and his accomplices broke into the hotel room of
> the victims and attempted to take sports memorabilia at gunpoint.
>
> No. 5: Jim Dunaway - Killer redneck.
>
> Jim Dunway's ex-wife was found dead in a swimming pool. Autopsy reports
> indicated that she died from a fractured skull prior to be being placed in
> the pool.
>
> Dunaway was charged with murder, but not indicted. He later was found
> guilty in a wrongful death suit filed by his children.
>
> No. 6: Darryl Henley - Negro.
>
> Henley was convicted of trafficking cocaine, a charge in and of itself
> serious enough to warrant consideration for this list.
>
> Henley, however, went above and beyond that, and while on trial he was
> found to have contacted people to kill the judge presiding over his
> trafficking case.
>
> Henley received a 41-year sentence for these crimes.
>
> No. 7: Alonzo Spellman - Negro.
>
> Spellman is another member on this list who suffers from repeat anger
> management issues.
>
> His temper has led to an emergency landing of a flight after allegedly,
> among other things, Spellman told the pilot he was about to rip his throat
> out.
>
> He also has faced weapons charges and was involved in a standoff with
> police while barricaded in his publicist's home.
>
> No. 8: Ray Lewis - Murdering negro.
>
> Ray Lewis was arrested for two counts of first-degree murder after he was
> involved in a brawl that led to the stabbing and death of one of the
> people involved. Lewis ended up pleading guilty to obstruction of justice
> and the charges were dropped.
>
> He admitted to misleading police with his statements and the suit he was
> wearing during the fight was never found. Lewis ended up settling for an
> undisclosed amount with the victim's family.
>
> No. 9: Gene Atkins - Negro.
>
> Gene Atkins has a unique and diverse rap sheet. He was charged and later
> acquitted of firebombing a business associate.
>
> He later was arrested after his wife called the police claiming Atkins had
> pushed her against a wall, beat her with a remote control and bit her. The
> police arrived to find him barricaded in his house. When told he was under
> arrest, Atkins disagreed by saying, "No, I am not," and then punching the
> officer in the throat.
>
> No. 10: Leonard Little - Dumb negro.
>
> Leonard Little was driving drunk, ran a red light and crashed into a
> mother of two and killed her.
>
> Little is certainly not alone in the NFL vehicular manslaughter charges,
> but what places him higher is that a few years later, he was again
> arrested for a DUI after he failed three field sobriety tests.
>
> No. 11: Dwayne Goodrich - Negro.
>
> Goodrich is currently serving time for a conviction on vehicular
> manslaughter and hit-and-run charges.
>
> These charges stemmed from an incident where Goodrich's truck struck and
> killed two people who were trying to rescue a man from a burning vehicle.
> Goodrich's vehicle then fled the scene.
>
> No. 12: Lawrence Phillips - Dumb violent negro.
>
> Lawrence Phillips may be the poster boy for anger control problems. He has
> been convicted several times of assaulting women. The most notable
> probably came into college when he broke into his ex's dorm and then
> dragged her by the hair down three flights of stairs.
>
> Philips is currently serving a 30-year sentence after he tried to run over
> a group of teens after they got into an argument during a pick-up football
> game.
>
> No. 13: Michael Vick - Would be dead in any decent society negro.
>
> Michael Vick did things so horrible to dogs that it has earned him a spot
> on this list ahead of people whose actions resulted in the loss of human
> lives.
>
> I'm sure you know the story, but the quick version is Michael Vick earned
> himself a 23-month jail sentence for his role in funding, promoting and
> facilitating a dog-fighting ring and his subsequent abuse and murder of
> his dogs.
>
> No. 14: Barret Robbins - Mentally disturbed redneck.
>
> Barret Robbins missed the Super Bowl due to a bipolar-fueled alcohol binge
> to Mexico the night before the game. Things went downhill for Robbins from
> there.
>
> Robbins was charged with three counts of attempted felony murder after
> police were called due to his trespassing. Robbins was reportedly found
> crouching in a woman's bathroom. He charged the officers, who shot him
> twice, with one bullet piercing his heart.
>
> This was not enough to instantly subdue Robbins, as he slapped away the
> gun and knocked the officer, who shot him, to the ground.
>
> No. 15: Jim Brown - Woman beating and raping negro.
>
> Brown has been arrested and served time on numerous occasions throughout
> his life for assaulting and threatening women.
>
> No. 16: Donte Stallworth - Negro.
>
> Donte Stallworth pled guilty to vehicular manslaughter charges. Stallworth
> admitted to being under the influence at the time of the accident.
>
> Stallworth ended up serving 24 days in prison and serving a one-year
> suspension from the NFL. For his part, Stallworth has kept his nose clean
> since and as Stallworth says, "[He's] become a better decision-maker."
>
> No. 17: Cecil Collins - Negro.
>
> Cecil Collins is currently serving a 15-year burglary sentence. He broke
> into the home of a married woman he knew from the gym.
>
> Collins admitted that he broke in to watch the woman sleep.
>
> No. 18: Justin Strzelczyk - Steroid abusing redneck.
>
> Strzelczyk has far from the longest rap sheet on this list. In fact, his
> placement revolves around one night. Strzelczyk was involved in an
> accident and fled the scene.
>
> He then led cops on a 40-mile chase. During the chase he allegedly threw
> beer bottles at the officers and flipped them off. The chase ended when
> Strzelczyk crashed head-on into a semi truck carrying flammable liquids,
> resulting in the pictured aftermath and his death.
>
> No. 19: Lawrence Taylor - Child molesting negro.
>
> In the immortal words of Rick James, "Cocaine is a helluva drug." It also
> seems to be the source of the majority of Lawrence Taylor's numerous run-
> ins with the law.
>
> His latest run-in with the law was the most serious. Taylor was charged
> with statutory rape involving an incident with a 16-year-old call girl. He
> ended up pleading guilty to one count of patronizing a prostitute and one
> count of sexual misconduct.
>
> No. 20: Adam "Pac-Man" Jones - Really stupid negro.
>
> Jones worked hard to make this list. His crimes largely involve, but are
> not limited to, activities taking place around strip clubs. He has beat up
> strippers, bodyguards (his own) and other patrons of the club.
>
> The most intense of his strip club incidents ended in a gun fight that
> left one man paralyzed.
>
> Honorable mention: Benjamin Todd "Ben" Roethlisberger - Redneck serial
> rapist.
>
> "Big Ben" has been publicly accused three times of raping young women. In
> all three cases, criminal charges were eventually dropped in favor of
> civil settlements. The law of statistics says if there were 3 that
> cropped up in the public eye, there were probably 27 that didn't. The
> woman who shoots him while in commission of rape, should be given a
> national award for ridding America of an unrepentant serial rapist.
Why isn't Bill Belichick on here? He's the biggest criminal in
the NFL by far. The man has to cheat to win, everybody knows
it, and he gets away with it.
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TOPIC: Al Gore: Scientists Predicted Global Warming Would Cause These Snow
Storms. Huh? No They Didn't!
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== 1 of 17 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 3 2011 6:13 am
From: CalC
On Feb 2, 7:30 pm, "mr d...@harvarduniversity.edu"
<foster...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Gore is going to take credit for every weather event and try to tie it
> to "global warming" so he can keep making his millions!
>
> This is WORSE than Bernie Madoff! Why isn't Gore in prison???
>
> Consider this from another global warming bible, The Independent,
> (March 20, 2000), when the IPCC was gearing up to get us all to take
> global warming seriously:
> "
>
> ... the warming is so far manifesting itself more in winters which
> are less cold than in much hotter summers. According to Dr David
> Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU)
> of the University of East Anglia [the epicentre of global warming
> research], within a few years winter snowfall will become "a very rare
> and exciting event". Children just aren't going to know what snow is."
>
> mr dude
It's easy dude..... just predict a little of everything and it either
didn't happen yet or you're right when it does. This guy is like a
tarot card reader and the simple minded buy that too,.
== 2 of 17 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 3 2011 6:40 am
From: cloud dreamer
On 03/02/2011 10:43 AM, CalC wrote:
> On Feb 2, 7:30 pm, "mr d...@harvarduniversity.edu"
> <foster...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Gore is going to take credit for every weather event and try to tie it
>> to "global warming" so he can keep making his millions!
>>
>> This is WORSE than Bernie Madoff! Why isn't Gore in prison???
Why isn't every oil executive in prison??? They're making TRILLIONS off
the continued use of fossil fuels. You honestly think they don't have a
financial stake in all of this???
>>
>> Consider this from another global warming bible, The Independent,
>> (March 20, 2000), when the IPCC was gearing up to get us all to take
>> global warming seriously:
>> "
>>
>> ... the warming is so far manifesting itself more in winters which
>> are less cold than in much hotter summers. According to Dr David
>> Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU)
>> of the University of East Anglia [the epicentre of global warming
>> research], within a few years winter snowfall will become "a very rare
>> and exciting event". Children just aren't going to know what snow is."
>>
>> mr dude
>
> It's easy dude..... just predict a little of everything and it either
> didn't happen yet or you're right when it does. This guy is like a
> tarot card reader and the simple minded buy that too,.
The quote is out of context. Viner was talking about Britain, not the
globe as a whole.
No scientist has said it will stop snowing globally. In fact, anyone who
points to snow and cries foul is just plain stupid. The global temps are
up 1 degree in a century. How do they expect a winter average of -23 in
a place like Winnipeg to suddenly jump to positive numbers? The average
global temperature would have to rise by dozens of degrees for it to
stop snowing in Winnipeg. And if it ever got that warm, it would be too
hot for humans to exist.
What we are seeing is in line with what is being predicted. A warmer
atmosphere and warming ocean will produce more moisture. In summer, it
means more rain (especially in mid-latitudes). In winter, it means more
snow. This year, a strong La Nina event in the Pacific is permitting
Arctic air to descend farther north. La Nina is like someone that stands
at the fridge and holds the door open. The fridge (Arctic) warms while
everywhere south of it freezes.
So, get your head out of the sand with the asinine "oh it's snowing,
it's a hoax" bullshit. It's only proves how out of touch with reality
the deniers are.
And stop relying on Gore for your punching bag. If you're all so sure
you know more than the scientists themselves, challenge them. They are
open to challenge at realclimate.org - go there, tell them you've
figured out the whole problem and DISPUTE THEM.
Though, I'm not holding my breath.
Cowards.
..
--
We must change the way we live
Or the climate will do it for us
== 3 of 17 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 3 2011 10:36 am
From: Sarah Ehrett
On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 11:10:07 -0330, cloud dreamer <Save@Resources.now>
wrote:
>On 03/02/2011 10:43 AM, CalC wrote:
>> On Feb 2, 7:30 pm, "mr d...@harvarduniversity.edu"
>> <foster...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Gore is going to take credit for every weather event and try to tie it
>>> to "global warming" so he can keep making his millions!
>>>
>>> This is WORSE than Bernie Madoff! Why isn't Gore in prison???
>
>Why isn't every oil executive in prison??? They're making TRILLIONS off
>the continued use of fossil fuels. You honestly think they don't have a
>financial stake in all of this???
[ Ignoring the fact this crap is OT for asfpn-p]
Do people honestly think we can run the US on windmills and solar panels?
Get the nutter "NO NUKES" bunch off peoples arses so we can build nuclear
power plants. As it is with Obammy's anti-coal policies we'll be having
rolling black/brown outs. How about we drill for our own oil in Anwar or
in the Gulf and do it now.
BTW, do any of the anti - fossil fuelers know what happens when you have no
new power plants being built plus high energy costs as promised by Obammy
and you get hundreds of thousands of workers arriving home, plugging in
their electric cars, firing up the stoves and ovens for dinner, surfing the
net and watching the big screen TV's ...?
Be sure to vote " Obama in 2012 " .
== 4 of 17 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 3 2011 10:48 am
From: "Ray O'Hara"
"Sarah Ehrett" <ninety7gt@cox.net> wrote in message
news:2oslk6lgr5jld2i8d7ot2updj0ancjc1m4@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 11:10:07 -0330, cloud dreamer <Save@Resources.now>
> wrote:
>
>>On 03/02/2011 10:43 AM, CalC wrote:
>>> On Feb 2, 7:30 pm, "mr d...@harvarduniversity.edu"
>>> <foster...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Gore is going to take credit for every weather event and try to tie it
>>>> to "global warming" so he can keep making his millions!
>>>>
>>>> This is WORSE than Bernie Madoff! Why isn't Gore in prison???
>>
>>Why isn't every oil executive in prison??? They're making TRILLIONS off
>>the continued use of fossil fuels. You honestly think they don't have a
>>financial stake in all of this???
>
> [ Ignoring the fact this crap is OT for asfpn-p]
>
> Do people honestly think we can run the US on windmills and solar panels?
>
actually yes we can
the wind and the sun are free don't pollute and can generate unlimited
power.
T. Boone Pickens is an advocate we do just that. he seems to think with
those sources and natural gas we can wean off oil reletively easily and
quickly.
== 5 of 17 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 3 2011 11:19 am
From: Sarah Ehrett
On Thu, 3 Feb 2011 13:48:53 -0500, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-ohara@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
>"Sarah Ehrett" <ninety7gt@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:2oslk6lgr5jld2i8d7ot2updj0ancjc1m4@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 11:10:07 -0330, cloud dreamer <Save@Resources.now>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 03/02/2011 10:43 AM, CalC wrote:
>>>> On Feb 2, 7:30 pm, "mr d...@harvarduniversity.edu"
>>>> <foster...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Gore is going to take credit for every weather event and try to tie it
>>>>> to "global warming" so he can keep making his millions!
>>>>>
>>>>> This is WORSE than Bernie Madoff! Why isn't Gore in prison???
>>>
>>>Why isn't every oil executive in prison??? They're making TRILLIONS off
>>>the continued use of fossil fuels. You honestly think they don't have a
>>>financial stake in all of this???
>>
>> [ Ignoring the fact this crap is OT for asfpn-p]
>>
>> Do people honestly think we can run the US on windmills and solar panels?
>>
>
>actually yes we can
Get back to me when we get an average sized size city operating entirely on
wind and solar power.
>the wind and the sun are free don't pollute and can generate unlimited
>power.
>T. Boone Pickens is an advocate we do just that. he seems to think with
>those sources and natural gas we can wean off oil reletively easily and
>quickly.
== 6 of 17 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 3 2011 11:45 am
From: cloud dreamer
On 03/02/2011 3:49 PM, Sarah Ehrett wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Feb 2011 13:48:53 -0500, "Ray O'Hara"<raymond-ohara@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Sarah Ehrett"<ninety7gt@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:2oslk6lgr5jld2i8d7ot2updj0ancjc1m4@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 11:10:07 -0330, cloud dreamer<Save@Resources.now>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 03/02/2011 10:43 AM, CalC wrote:
>>>>> On Feb 2, 7:30 pm, "mr d...@harvarduniversity.edu"
>>>>> <foster...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Gore is going to take credit for every weather event and try to tie it
>>>>>> to "global warming" so he can keep making his millions!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is WORSE than Bernie Madoff! Why isn't Gore in prison???
>>>>
>>>> Why isn't every oil executive in prison??? They're making TRILLIONS off
>>>> the continued use of fossil fuels. You honestly think they don't have a
>>>> financial stake in all of this???
>>>
>>> [ Ignoring the fact this crap is OT for asfpn-p]
>>>
>>> Do people honestly think we can run the US on windmills and solar panels?
>>>
>>
>> actually yes we can
>
> Get back to me when we get an average sized size city operating entirely on
> wind and solar power.
>
And hydro and nuclear and thermal and clean coal (captured carbon).
My city gets 85% of its power from clean hydro. Within the next 3 to 6
years, it will get the other 15% from clean hydro and wind.
And some of that hydro (Lower Churchill, Labrador) will feed power grids
in the northeastern US.
So, there you go. Not only possible, but practical and happening today.
So, what do you advocate. Nothing? Do you honestly think we can afford
to do nothing? The US only has enough recoverable fossil fuels to do
them a few years. And what happens when the planet's limited supply of
oil begins to run out.
Not run out.
BEGINS to run out.
If you think the planet can make a transition suddenly to alternate
energies, you're insane. The result will be wars.
And that's climate change aside. We have to make the change now solely
due to peak oil.
..
--
We must change the way we live
Or the climate will do it for us
== 7 of 17 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 3 2011 11:46 am
From: Husky
On Feb 3, 9:40 am, pipe dreamer <The Queen of Plonk> wrote:
> On 03/02/2011 10:43 AM, CalC wrote:
>
> > On Feb 2, 7:30 pm, "mr d...@harvarduniversity.edu"
> > <foster...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Gore is going to take credit for every weather event and try to tie it
> >> to "global warming" so he can keep making his millions!
>
> >> This is WORSE than Bernie Madoff! Why isn't Gore in prison???
>
> Why isn't every oil executive in prison??? They're making TRILLIONS off
> the continued use of fossil fuels. You honestly think they don't have a
> financial stake in all of this???
>
>
>
>
>
> >> Consider this from another global warming bible, The Independent,
> >> (March 20, 2000), when the IPCC was gearing up to get us all to take
> >> global warming seriously:
> >> "
>
> >> ... the warming is so far manifesting itself more in winters which
> >> are less cold than in much hotter summers. According to Dr David
> >> Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU)
> >> of the University of East Anglia [the epicentre of global warming
> >> research], within a few years winter snowfall will become "a very rare
> >> and exciting event". Children just aren't going to know what snow is."
>
> >> mr dude
>
> > It's easy dude..... just predict a little of everything and it either
> > didn't happen yet or you're right when it does. This guy is like a
> > tarot card reader and the simple minded buy that too,.
>
> The quote is out of context. Viner was talking about Britain, not the
> globe as a whole.
>
> No scientist has said it will stop snowing globally. In fact, anyone who
> points to snow and cries foul is just plain stupid. The global temps are
> up 1 degree in a century. How do they expect a winter average of -23 in
> a place like Winnipeg to suddenly jump to positive numbers? The average
> global temperature would have to rise by dozens of degrees for it to
> stop snowing in Winnipeg. And if it ever got that warm, it would be too
> hot for humans to exist.
>
> What we are seeing is in line with what is being predicted. A warmer
> atmosphere and warming ocean will produce more moisture. In summer, it
> means more rain (especially in mid-latitudes). In winter, it means more
> snow. This year, a strong La Nina event in the Pacific is permitting
> Arctic air to descend farther north. La Nina is like someone that stands
> at the fridge and holds the door open. The fridge (Arctic) warms while
> everywhere south of it freezes.
>
> So, get your head out of the sand with the asinine "oh it's snowing,
> it's a hoax" bullshit. It's only proves how out of touch with reality
> the deniers are.
>
> And stop relying on Gore for your punching bag. If you're all so sure
> you know more than the scientists themselves, challenge them. They are
> open to challenge at realclimate.org - go there, tell them you've
> figured out the whole problem and DISPUTE THEM.
>
> Though, I'm not holding my breath.
>
> Cowards.
>
> ..
>
> --
> We must change the way we live
> Or the climate will do it for us
Hey Lady,
WTF do you mean by Cowards?
How does it feel being at the bottom of a Pyramid scheme? There are
thousands of reputable scientist who refute the mumbo jumbo you're
spouting. Gee, are we using the same equipment and exact same
locations to record temp. readings as we did a century ago? Let's
micro manage for shits and giggles: How are the numbers been for the
past 15 years?
If there's a hot summer, you say it's because of man made global
"Climate Change." If there is an unusually cold winter, you people
parrot "you don't know the difference between weather and climate."
Go polish Bill Maher's knob.
== 8 of 17 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 3 2011 2:37 pm
From: Sarah Ehrett
On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 16:15:44 -0330, cloud dreamer <Save@Resources.now>
wrote:
>On 03/02/2011 3:49 PM, Sarah Ehrett wrote:
>> On Thu, 3 Feb 2011 13:48:53 -0500, "Ray O'Hara"<raymond-ohara@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Sarah Ehrett"<ninety7gt@cox.net> wrote in message
>>> news:2oslk6lgr5jld2i8d7ot2updj0ancjc1m4@4ax.com...
>>>> On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 11:10:07 -0330, cloud dreamer<Save@Resources.now>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 03/02/2011 10:43 AM, CalC wrote:
>>>>>> On Feb 2, 7:30 pm, "mr d...@harvarduniversity.edu"
>>>>>> <foster...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Gore is going to take credit for every weather event and try to tie it
>>>>>>> to "global warming" so he can keep making his millions!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is WORSE than Bernie Madoff! Why isn't Gore in prison???
>>>>>
>>>>> Why isn't every oil executive in prison??? They're making TRILLIONS off
>>>>> the continued use of fossil fuels. You honestly think they don't have a
>>>>> financial stake in all of this???
>>>>
>>>> [ Ignoring the fact this crap is OT for asfpn-p]
>>>>
>>>> Do people honestly think we can run the US on windmills and solar panels?
>>>>
>>>
>>> actually yes we can
>>
>> Get back to me when we get an average sized size city operating entirely on
>> wind and solar power.
>>
>
>
>And hydro and nuclear and thermal and clean coal (captured carbon).
No. Ray said wind and solar and currently it is not possible to run even a
small city using only wind and solar power.
>My city gets 85% of its power from clean hydro. Within the next 3 to 6
>years, it will get the other 15% from clean hydro and wind.
>
>And some of that hydro (Lower Churchill, Labrador) will feed power grids
>in the northeastern US.
>
>So, there you go. Not only possible, but practical and happening today.
In Washington DC? Atlanta Georgia? Philadelphia? Chicago? Houston
Texas? LA?
Not happening.
I live less than 20 miles from two clean coal power plants and about 40
miles from a nuclear plant. The nuke nutters has the nuclear plant all
but shut down 24/7 and Obammer wants to destroy the coal industry.
A Google listing of articles showing the EPA's denial of coal mining
permits. http://tinyurl.com/5uz6r3f
>So, what do you advocate. Nothing?
Nuclear power, natural gas, coal, and oil.
The US and other industrialized nations consume a lot of oil and will
continue to do so long after I'm toes up.
== 9 of 17 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 3 2011 2:49 pm
From: cloud dreamer
On 03/02/2011 7:07 PM, Sarah Ehrett wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 16:15:44 -0330, cloud dreamer<Save@Resources.now>
> wrote:
>
>> On 03/02/2011 3:49 PM, Sarah Ehrett wrote:
>>> On Thu, 3 Feb 2011 13:48:53 -0500, "Ray O'Hara"<raymond-ohara@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Sarah Ehrett"<ninety7gt@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:2oslk6lgr5jld2i8d7ot2updj0ancjc1m4@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 11:10:07 -0330, cloud dreamer<Save@Resources.now>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 03/02/2011 10:43 AM, CalC wrote:
>>>>>>> On Feb 2, 7:30 pm, "mr d...@harvarduniversity.edu"
>>>>>>> <foster...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Gore is going to take credit for every weather event and try to tie it
>>>>>>>> to "global warming" so he can keep making his millions!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is WORSE than Bernie Madoff! Why isn't Gore in prison???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why isn't every oil executive in prison??? They're making TRILLIONS off
>>>>>> the continued use of fossil fuels. You honestly think they don't have a
>>>>>> financial stake in all of this???
>>>>>
>>>>> [ Ignoring the fact this crap is OT for asfpn-p]
>>>>>
>>>>> Do people honestly think we can run the US on windmills and solar panels?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> actually yes we can
>>>
>>> Get back to me when we get an average sized size city operating entirely on
>>> wind and solar power.
>>>
>>
>>
>> And hydro and nuclear and thermal and clean coal (captured carbon).
>
> No. Ray said wind and solar and currently it is not possible to run even a
> small city using only wind and solar power.
>
>> My city gets 85% of its power from clean hydro. Within the next 3 to 6
>> years, it will get the other 15% from clean hydro and wind.
>>
>> And some of that hydro (Lower Churchill, Labrador) will feed power grids
>> in the northeastern US.
>>
>> So, there you go. Not only possible, but practical and happening today.
>
> In Washington DC? Atlanta Georgia? Philadelphia? Chicago? Houston
> Texas? LA?
>
> Not happening.
>
> I live less than 20 miles from two clean coal power plants and about 40
> miles from a nuclear plant. The nuke nutters has the nuclear plant all
> but shut down 24/7 and Obammer wants to destroy the coal industry.
>
> A Google listing of articles showing the EPA's denial of coal mining
> permits. http://tinyurl.com/5uz6r3f
>
>> So, what do you advocate. Nothing?
>
> Nuclear power, natural gas, coal, and oil.
>
> The US and other industrialized nations consume a lot of oil and will
> continue to do so long after I'm toes up.
Sorry. Not enough gas, coal and oil to sustain the planet indefinitely.
You're fooling yourself if you think differently.
And calling Obama names only proves you don't have an argument, only an
agenda. Lots of rhetoric. No facts.
Not wasting any more of my time.
<plonk>
..
--
We must change the way we live
Or the climate will do it for us
== 10 of 17 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 3 2011 2:57 pm
From: Sarah Ehrett
On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:19:54 -0330, cloud dreamer <Save@Resources.now>
wrote:
>On 03/02/2011 7:07 PM, Sarah Ehrett wrote:
>> On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 16:15:44 -0330, cloud dreamer<Save@Resources.now>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 03/02/2011 3:49 PM, Sarah Ehrett wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 3 Feb 2011 13:48:53 -0500, "Ray O'Hara"<raymond-ohara@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Sarah Ehrett"<ninety7gt@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:2oslk6lgr5jld2i8d7ot2updj0ancjc1m4@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 11:10:07 -0330, cloud dreamer<Save@Resources.now>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 03/02/2011 10:43 AM, CalC wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Feb 2, 7:30 pm, "mr d...@harvarduniversity.edu"
>>>>>>>> <foster...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Gore is going to take credit for every weather event and try to tie it
>>>>>>>>> to "global warming" so he can keep making his millions!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is WORSE than Bernie Madoff! Why isn't Gore in prison???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why isn't every oil executive in prison??? They're making TRILLIONS off
>>>>>>> the continued use of fossil fuels. You honestly think they don't have a
>>>>>>> financial stake in all of this???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [ Ignoring the fact this crap is OT for asfpn-p]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do people honestly think we can run the US on windmills and solar panels?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> actually yes we can
>>>>
>>>> Get back to me when we get an average sized size city operating entirely on
>>>> wind and solar power.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And hydro and nuclear and thermal and clean coal (captured carbon).
>>
>> No. Ray said wind and solar and currently it is not possible to run even a
>> small city using only wind and solar power.
>>
>>> My city gets 85% of its power from clean hydro. Within the next 3 to 6
>>> years, it will get the other 15% from clean hydro and wind.
>>>
>>> And some of that hydro (Lower Churchill, Labrador) will feed power grids
>>> in the northeastern US.
>>>
>>> So, there you go. Not only possible, but practical and happening today.
>>
>> In Washington DC? Atlanta Georgia? Philadelphia? Chicago? Houston
>> Texas? LA?
>>
>> Not happening.
>>
>> I live less than 20 miles from two clean coal power plants and about 40
>> miles from a nuclear plant. The nuke nutters has the nuclear plant all
>> but shut down 24/7 and Obammer wants to destroy the coal industry.
>>
>> A Google listing of articles showing the EPA's denial of coal mining
>> permits. http://tinyurl.com/5uz6r3f
>>
>>> So, what do you advocate. Nothing?
>>
>> Nuclear power, natural gas, coal, and oil.
>>
>> The US and other industrialized nations consume a lot of oil and will
>> continue to do so long after I'm toes up.
>
>
>Sorry. Not enough gas, coal and oil to sustain the planet indefinitely.
And yet you have not one cite to prove your position.
>You're fooling yourself if you think differently.
Nice attempt at moving goalposts and putting words in my mouth.
>And calling Obama names only proves you don't have an argument, only an
>agenda. Lots of rhetoric. No facts.
I seem to have missed all your cited facts.
>Not wasting any more of my time.
>
><plonk>
>
> ..
Poor dear. You have a history of running from the truth.
== 11 of 17 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 3 2011 3:30 pm
From: zz18@zz.com
On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:30:03 -0800 (PST), "mr
dude@harvarduniversity.edu" <fosterfla@gmail.com> wrote:
>Gore is going to take credit for every weather event and try to tie it
>to "global warming" so he can keep making his millions!
>
>This is WORSE than Bernie Madoff! Why isn't Gore in prison???
>
>Consider this from another global warming bible, The Independent,
>(March 20, 2000), when the IPCC was gearing up to get us all to take
>global warming seriously:
>"
It's not global warming, it should really be called Global Climate
Change. That means here in Boston instead of a normal winter
with 34" of snow get ready for winters with more than 100" of snow..
(we've received close to 60" and today is only 2/3/11.
>
> ... the warming is so far manifesting itself more in winters which
>are less cold than in much hotter summers. According to Dr David
>Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU)
>of the University of East Anglia [the epicentre of global warming
>research], within a few years winter snowfall will become "a very rare
>and exciting event". Children just aren't going to know what snow is."
Wrong. Look for winters giving Boston 100+ inches of snow.
>
>mr dude
== 12 of 17 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 3 2011 4:08 pm
From: cloud dreamer
On 03/02/2011 7:27 PM, Sarah Ehrett wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:19:54 -0330, cloud dreamer<Save@Resources.now>
> wrote:
>
>> On 03/02/2011 7:07 PM, Sarah Ehrett wrote:
>>> On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 16:15:44 -0330, cloud dreamer<Save@Resources.now>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 03/02/2011 3:49 PM, Sarah Ehrett wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 3 Feb 2011 13:48:53 -0500, "Ray O'Hara"<raymond-ohara@hotmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Sarah Ehrett"<ninety7gt@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:2oslk6lgr5jld2i8d7ot2updj0ancjc1m4@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 11:10:07 -0330, cloud dreamer<Save@Resources.now>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 03/02/2011 10:43 AM, CalC wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 2, 7:30 pm, "mr d...@harvarduniversity.edu"
>>>>>>>>> <foster...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Gore is going to take credit for every weather event and try to tie it
>>>>>>>>>> to "global warming" so he can keep making his millions!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is WORSE than Bernie Madoff! Why isn't Gore in prison???
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why isn't every oil executive in prison??? They're making TRILLIONS off
>>>>>>>> the continued use of fossil fuels. You honestly think they don't have a
>>>>>>>> financial stake in all of this???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [ Ignoring the fact this crap is OT for asfpn-p]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do people honestly think we can run the US on windmills and solar panels?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> actually yes we can
>>>>>
>>>>> Get back to me when we get an average sized size city operating entirely on
>>>>> wind and solar power.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And hydro and nuclear and thermal and clean coal (captured carbon).
>>>
>>> No. Ray said wind and solar and currently it is not possible to run even a
>>> small city using only wind and solar power.
>>>
>>>> My city gets 85% of its power from clean hydro. Within the next 3 to 6
>>>> years, it will get the other 15% from clean hydro and wind.
>>>>
>>>> And some of that hydro (Lower Churchill, Labrador) will feed power grids
>>>> in the northeastern US.
>>>>
>>>> So, there you go. Not only possible, but practical and happening today.
>>>
>>> In Washington DC? Atlanta Georgia? Philadelphia? Chicago? Houston
>>> Texas? LA?
>>>
>>> Not happening.
>>>
>>> I live less than 20 miles from two clean coal power plants and about 40
>>> miles from a nuclear plant. The nuke nutters has the nuclear plant all
>>> but shut down 24/7 and Obammer wants to destroy the coal industry.
>>>
>>> A Google listing of articles showing the EPA's denial of coal mining
>>> permits. http://tinyurl.com/5uz6r3f
>>>
>>>> So, what do you advocate. Nothing?
>>>
>>> Nuclear power, natural gas, coal, and oil.
>>>
>>> The US and other industrialized nations consume a lot of oil and will
>>> continue to do so long after I'm toes up.
>>
>>
>> Sorry. Not enough gas, coal and oil to sustain the planet indefinitely.
>
> And yet you have not one cite to prove your position.
Seriously??? You think there is??? Then you are not only fooling
yourself. You are a fool.
>
>> You're fooling yourself if you think differently.
>
> Nice attempt at moving goalposts and putting words in my mouth.
Deflection from the truth. You're fooling yourself if you think this
planet can afford to burn fossil fuels until they're gone. It's obvious
that you don't understand the most basic facts of climate change.
>
>> And calling Obama names only proves you don't have an argument, only an
>> agenda. Lots of rhetoric. No facts.
>
> I seem to have missed all your cited facts.
Go debate the scientists themselves at realclimate.org
>
>> Not wasting any more of my time.
>>
>> <plonk>
>>
>> ..
>
> Poor dear. You have a history of running from the truth.
You haven't provided any. All I see is rhetoric basic in stiff
ideological thinking instead of open minded curiosity.
I plonked you before. Now I remember why.
<plonked on my other computer>
..
== 13 of 17 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 3 2011 4:10 pm
From: cloud dreamer
On 03/02/2011 8:00 PM, zz18@zz.com wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:30:03 -0800 (PST), "mr
> dude@harvarduniversity.edu"<fosterfla@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Gore is going to take credit for every weather event and try to tie it
>> to "global warming" so he can keep making his millions!
>>
>> This is WORSE than Bernie Madoff! Why isn't Gore in prison???
>>
>> Consider this from another global warming bible, The Independent,
>> (March 20, 2000), when the IPCC was gearing up to get us all to take
>> global warming seriously:
>> "
> It's not global warming, it should really be called Global Climate
> Change. That means here in Boston instead of a normal winter
> with 34" of snow get ready for winters with more than 100" of snow..
> (we've received close to 60" and today is only 2/3/11.
>
>
>
>>
>> ... the warming is so far manifesting itself more in winters which
>> are less cold than in much hotter summers. According to Dr David
>> Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU)
>> of the University of East Anglia [the epicentre of global warming
>> research], within a few years winter snowfall will become "a very rare
>> and exciting event". Children just aren't going to know what snow is."
> Wrong. Look for winters giving Boston 100+ inches of snow.
The man quoted was referring to England, not the United States.
But deniers don't want to put their cherry picked quotes into context.
..
== 14 of 17 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 3 2011 4:41 pm
From: Sarah Ehrett
On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 20:38:27 -0330, cloud dreamer
<Save@Resources.now> wrote:
< Nothing of value, as usual....>
[ Flush unread histrionic babble from our resident plonker *. ]
* 1. plonker - dope, idiot, moron, wally, pillock, dunderhead, dimwit.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=plonker
== 15 of 17 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 3 2011 5:13 pm
From: "mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu"
On Feb 3, 9:40 am, cloud dreamer <S...@Resources.now> wrote:
> The quote is out of context. Viner was talking about Britain, not the
> globe as a whole.
Let me see....the topic is GLOBAL warming and now you are saying he
was only talking about England???
Here comes an "inconvenient truth" for you, England had the heaviest
snowfalls in 18 years!!! It is sorry easy to refute you people yet you
will hang on to your religion of global warming now matter how many
facts get in your way!!!
Britain is bracing itself for further disruption as fresh bands of
snow sweep across parts of the country.
South-east England has been hit by the heaviest snow in 18 years,
causing trains and buses to be cancelled, and airports and schools to
be closed.
Snow is now moving north, with the Pennines, north-east England and
the Scottish Borders at risk of seeing up to 12 inches (30cm) of
snowfall.
The Met Office has issued an extreme weather warning for much of the
UK.
As well as heavy snow in many areas, there is a risk of widespread ice
in London and south-east England as temperatures fall as low as -7C
overnight.
mr dude
== 16 of 17 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 3 2011 6:38 pm
From: CalC
On Feb 3, 1:48 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Sarah Ehrett" <ninety...@cox.net> wrote in message
>
> news:2oslk6lgr5jld2i8d7ot2updj0ancjc1m4@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 11:10:07 -0330, cloud dreamer <S...@Resources.now>
> > wrote:
>
> >>On 03/02/2011 10:43 AM, CalC wrote:
> >>> On Feb 2, 7:30 pm, "mr d...@harvarduniversity.edu"
> >>> <foster...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Gore is going to take credit for every weather event and try to tie it
> >>>> to "global warming" so he can keep making his millions!
>
> >>>> This is WORSE than Bernie Madoff! Why isn't Gore in prison???
>
> >>Why isn't every oil executive in prison??? They're making TRILLIONS off
> >>the continued use of fossil fuels. You honestly think they don't have a
> >>financial stake in all of this???
>
> > [ Ignoring the fact this crap is OT for asfpn-p]
>
> > Do people honestly think we can run the US on windmills and solar panels?
>
> actually yes we can
> the wind and the sun are free don't pollute and can generate unlimited
> power.
> T. Boone Pickens is an advocate we do just that. he seems to think with
> those sources and natural gas we can wean off oil reletively easily and
> quickly.
Natural Gas is still a fossil fuel and is not pollution free jackass.
You can use wind and solar for SOME of the needs but never all. Either
suck it up and build nuke plants or love that oil... You should be all
for it O'Hara the French get 75% of their electricity from them and
everything European is better right?
== 17 of 17 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 3 2011 6:46 pm
From: CalC
On Feb 3, 8:13 pm, "mr d...@harvarduniversity.edu"
<foster...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 3, 9:40 am, cloud dreamer <S...@Resources.now> wrote:
>
> > The quote is out of context. Viner was talking about Britain, not the
> > globe as a whole.
>
> Let me see....the topic is GLOBAL warming and now you are saying he
> was only talking about England???
>
> Here comes an "inconvenient truth" for you, England had the heaviest
> snowfalls in 18 years!!! It is sorry easy to refute you people yet you
> will hang on to your religion of global warming now matter how many
> facts get in your way!!!
>
> Britain is bracing itself for further disruption as fresh bands of
> snow sweep across parts of the country.
>
> South-east England has been hit by the heaviest snow in 18 years,
> causing trains and buses to be cancelled, and airports and schools to
> be closed.
>
> Snow is now moving north, with the Pennines, north-east England and
> the Scottish Borders at risk of seeing up to 12 inches (30cm) of
> snowfall.
>
> The Met Office has issued an extreme weather warning for much of the
> UK.
>
> As well as heavy snow in many areas, there is a risk of widespread ice
> in London and south-east England as temperatures fall as low as -7C
> overnight.
>
> mr dude
Here's a simple truth that isn't disputable...... if all global
warming/ climate change or any other data is truly irrefutable why lie
and manipulate it as they were caught doing in their own emails? Why
not let it stand on it's own. Point is I dont know for sure and
neither do you CloudDreamer.... it's all speculation and more data is
needed but when one side is caught gerrymandering data their whole
argument has to become suspect. Going to other sources of energy is
smart for a lot of reasons.... pollution and price two of them but
like anything the question is AT WHAT COST..... Don't tell me you need
to triple my electric bill via cap and trade to save me from the
boogeyman because you aren't going to win anyone over with that
nonsense.
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TOPIC: It's Official!!! No Obama Birth Certificate!!!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ne-patriots/t/b80ab14316ac19ec?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 3 2011 10:42 am
From: Sarah Ehrett
On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 13:45:46 -0800 (PST), eric <warthog0@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Jan 29, 3:59 pm, Sarah Czepiel <ninety...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 07:33:35 -0800 (PST), eric <warth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >Ridiculous. Both Honolulu newspapers published notices of birth in
>> >August 1961.
>>
>> Faulty logic.
>>
>> My son's birth announcements were in Canadian Newspapers because their
>> maternal grandmother was a Canadian and her family ie: her grandson's
>> cousins, aunts and uncles lived in Canada.
>>
>> Following your logic that would make my children Canadian.
>
>The articles listed the parents address as Hawaii, and and referred to
>statistics published by the Hawaii Bureau of Heath.
Perhaps next time you argue this nonsense you'll be more accurate?
Probably not.
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TOPIC: Remember the Days of Sports Card Shows?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ne-patriots/t/5f6a46e2afb8e95d?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 3 2011 10:54 am
From: Sarah Ehrett
I'm going on Saturday to the 35th Annual Cranston Sports Collectors show in
Cranston Rhode Island. Haven't been to this show in about 5 years. Last
time I bought a team signed Pats helmet for a friend in Maryland. This
year I have a short list - cards for the newest crop of current players.
Should be fun.
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TOPIC: Attn: Mr Dude
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ne-patriots/t/56504ea45d45ad2a?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 3 2011 2:04 pm
From: James
I can't believe you missed this story!!
HYANNIS, Mass. - Ethel Kennedy is taking responsibility for a rogue
turkey caught on video attacking a mail truck near the family compound
in Hyannisport.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 3 2011 5:15 pm
From: "mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu"
On Feb 3, 5:04 pm, James <jvhi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I can't believe you missed this story!!
>
> HYANNIS, Mass. - Ethel Kennedy is taking responsibility for a rogue
> turkey caught on video attacking a mail truck near the family compound
> in Hyannisport.
I looked the story up on Snopes.com. It was actually an emu and not a
turkey.
mr dude
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