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Today's topics:
* "He came on a bicycle. I escorted him down and he went away on his bike." -
2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/d716dd1d8f812939?hl=en
* Armstrong On Oprah - 5 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/68ca4d0070272a83?hl=en
* Drunken cyclist in a chicken suit - 4 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/4283920c817cba98?hl=en
* Santo Subito for the Pope - he performed a host of miracles ! - 1 messages,
1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/02cb4fa593753399?hl=en
* Emma Addresses Strickland - 9 messages, 7 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/efaae3c099621b00?hl=en
* Tour de Romandie, stage 5 summary - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/7b973a28476460c6?hl=en
* One down, one to go! - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/63151670ad71a0ae?hl=en
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TOPIC: "He came on a bicycle. I escorted him down and he went away on his bike.
"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/d716dd1d8f812939?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 30 2011 11:24 pm
From: RicodJour
On May 1, 1:56 am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Story is not quite as salacious as the subject line suggests:
>
> http://www.torontosun.com/2011/04/29/layton-found-in-toronto-bawdy-ho...
>
> But minor political sex scandal + bicycle reference = rbr.
A 5' 10" Chinese woman in her 20's? Hmmm. Allow me to repeat that.
Hmmm.
R
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 9:46 am
From: Anton Berlin
On May 1, 1:24 am, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
> On May 1, 1:56 am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Story is not quite as salacious as the subject line suggests:
>
> >http://www.torontosun.com/2011/04/29/layton-found-in-toronto-bawdy-ho...
>
> > But minor political sex scandal + bicycle reference = rbr.
>
> A 5' 10" Chinese woman in her 20's? Hmmm. Allow me to repeat that.
> Hmmm.
>
> R
Some guys are in to asian chicks with large hands - you have a problem
with that ?
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TOPIC: Armstrong On Oprah
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/68ca4d0070272a83?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 3:15 am
From: Simply Fred
Michael Press wrote:
>> I am the humblest poster here.
Anton Berlin wrote:
> We will recognize that with a very small trophy - so small no one will
> be able to even see it.
Sorry, no one on rbr is willing to donate their penis, so the Press
penis will have to do.
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 7:13 am
From: Fred
On Apr 26, 4:27 pm, BL <B...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> This tells me that the Lance camp is crapping in their pants--assuming
> he answers any questions about the investigation. Oprah will be expected
> to throw softballs (pun intended), but you never know what might possess
> her to squeeze his remaining ball.
>
> Fabio will have him well coached for the appearance. But, it's a fairly
> big risk for a person under investigation to take. Presumably a live
> audience, too.
And your comment tells me you don't know how to read the tea leaves.
Fred
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 9:52 am
From: Anton Berlin
Another sign of Lance desperation
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 10:16 am
From: Fred
On May 1, 10:52 am, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Another sign of Lance desperation
As always, you reinforce your bias/stupidity w/ your comments. Lance
on the Oprah show has not a diddly damn thing to do with the ongoing
inquisition, errr, investigation.
I know you don't think it does anything meaningful, but since you
comment on his foundation pretty frequently, there's no doubt you know
about it. Of course, you don't see any link between his public
appearances and his foundation, you (as BL) see any and all things LA
through a very muddled prism.
Fred
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 1:53 pm
From: Michael Press
In article <qfov88-fe5.ln1@donaldm.homeip.net>,
Simply Fred <none@mailinator.com> wrote:
> Michael Press wrote:
> >> I am the humblest poster here.
>
> Anton Berlin wrote:
> > We will recognize that with a very small trophy - so small no one will
> > be able to even see it.
>
> Sorry, no one on rbr is willing to donate their penis, so the Press
> penis will have to do.
You're just jealous.
All those honeys pursuing you---must be hell.
--
Michael Press
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TOPIC: Drunken cyclist in a chicken suit
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/4283920c817cba98?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 8:51 am
From: RicodJour
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/9000077.Skipton_chicken_suit_cyclist_admits_abuse/
And just when I thought the world was getting too serious.
R
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 9:50 am
From: Anton Berlin
On May 1, 10:51 am, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
> http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/9000077.Skipton_chicken_su...
>
> And just when I thought the world was getting too serious.
>
> R
The English maintain their pecking order.
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 10:42 am
From: "Ronsonic"
"RicodJour" <ricodjour@worldemail.com> wrote in message
news:683a47c7-8ea9-454b-bc20-0444a5a4e779@m10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/9000077.Skipton_chicken_suit_cyclist_admits_abuse/
>
> And just when I thought the world was getting too serious.
Life imitates Bike Snob.
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 6:24 pm
From: Phil H
On May 1, 9:50 am, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 1, 10:51 am, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/9000077.Skipton_chicken_su...
>
> > And just when I thought the world was getting too serious.
>
> > R
>
> The English maintain their pecking order.
McGratten.......probably Irish.
Phil H
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TOPIC: Santo Subito for the Pope - he performed a host of miracles !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/02cb4fa593753399?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 9:44 am
From: Anton Berlin
Like ensuring that absolute pedophiles are never brought to justice.
http://www.slate.com/id/2247861/
If there is a god and is a hell - rest assured catholic sheep - they
turned the fires up to 11 when Pope John Paul arrived.
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TOPIC: Emma Addresses Strickland
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/efaae3c099621b00?hl=en
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== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 9:48 am
From: Anton Berlin
On Apr 30, 11:55 pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 30, 9:27 pm, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Wait a sec - she was asked to tell the truth. Put under oath and
> > appears to have done so. Because of that she's paid a price -
> > suffered consequences. We all know this can happen.
>
> True. We also know that people commit perjury, juggle kittens and
> steal library books. So let me take the opportunity to say I hate
> Vino. He's a dick and I hope he Rasmussen's himself in his next time
> trial.
>
> > Would you trust Lance Armstrong to tell the truth when there would be
> > consequences for him ?
>
> > I doubt anyone in this forum can honestly say they would.
>
> No offense, pizza boy, but I can honestly say I wouldn't trust you to
> tell the truth if there were consequences for you.
> I am not 100% sure, but I believe this is what they call "life." This
> is why we watch sports - to get away from life, no?
>
> R
I wouldn't count on me to give the same opinion as 1 in a million
people - but you can rely on me telling the truth. There's a huge
difference.
== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 9:50 am
From: BL
On 4/30/2011 2:54 PM, Substance McGravitas wrote:
> On 4/30/2011 11:44 AM, BL wrote:
>> On 4/30/2011 12:11 PM, Phil H wrote:
>>> On Apr 30, 6:26 am, BL<B...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>> On 4/29/2011 10:15 PM, Substance McGravitas wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/29/2011 6:33 PM, RicodJour wrote:
>>>>>> On Apr 29, 5:57 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky"<Mi...@ChainReaction.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Great read, thanks for the link!
>>>>
>>>>>>> Funny that the part you take away from this article is about Lance
>>>>>>> and his
>>>>>>> legal team. The article had little to say about that; rather, it
>>>>>>> was, as
>>>>>>> your subject line states, Emma addressing Strickland, and the
>>>>>>> weight the
>>>>>>> media places on her testimony vs others.
>>>>
>>>>>>> The part I found most interesting was this-
>>>>
>>>>>>> "Years ago I gave an interview to David Walsh, in which I told him
>>>>>>> the truth
>>>>>>> of what I had seen and experienced in my years in cycling.
>>>>>>> Incidentally, I
>>>>>>> got paid a small sum of money for all the time I put into helping
>>>>>>> David."
>>>>
>>>>>> I found this interesting:
>>>>>> "But now I am sick to death of journalists and people in the media
>>>>>> using my facts to help whatever point they want to get across. They
>>>>>> chase me like dogs in heat when they are trying to get their story,
>>>>>> then drop me if they've got their facts or I won't elaborate or
>>>>>> embellish their story.
>>>>>> {snip}
>>>>>> For the record, I might not have achieved anything like Lance has—who
>>>>>> has? But I live a nice, quiet life running a small business, with my
>>>>>> two dogs and my boyfriend."
>>>>
>>>>>> Chase me like a dog in heat? What woman would say that? It's
>>>>>> implying she's a female dog - a bitch. Very odd. Then I read the
>>>>>> last part - and that explained it all. She's in business with the two
>>>>>> dogs (notice the first billing) and her boyfriend. I wonder who's top
>>>>>> dog? =:O
>>>>
>>>>>> R
>>>>
>>>>> Shes's sick of people who wont listen and take her staements out of
>>>>> context - like you and Brian. It pisses her off. That's all she
>>>>> said in
>>>>> the bits you twisted.
>>>>
>>>> Show me where I've taken any of her statements out of context.
>>>
>>> Out of context isn't a precise account of what she said. Folks with
>>> their own agenda, selling newspapers, books, gossip mongers, the
>>> "bring down Lance" brigade etc. Her desire was to rid cycling of drugs
>>> and the impression that Lance the bully went after her.......well, you
>>> can make accusations, but you'd better be able to back them up with
>>> facts otherwise you're wide open to attack.....simple as that. She's
>>> right...she was very naive.
>>> Phil H
>> Re-read what RICO wrote. He said I took what she said out of context.
>> Show me where I have ever taken what she has said out of context.
>
> You're not capable of seeing your own misrepresentations. You are not
> constrained by reality. "Each reader will take from her statement what
> they will" justifies claiming that she was talking about anything.
>
> You claim the article was about Lance's legal team, no reasonable person
> would read it that way.
The short answer is "No, I haven't taken anything she has said out of
context."
Further, I made no claims at all, FuckTard. I pointed out one aspect of
her statement that I found interesting. Other readers will be
interestred in other aspects of her statement. That does not mean that
anyone is taking any part of her statement out of context. I suggest
you go back to your room and finish whacking off to your Lance poster
collection. And shut the door so you don't disturb Mommy.
== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 11:36 am
From: Substance McGravitas
On 5/1/2011 9:50 AM, BL wrote:
> On 4/30/2011 2:54 PM, Substance McGravitas wrote:
>> On 4/30/2011 11:44 AM, BL wrote:
>>> On 4/30/2011 12:11 PM, Phil H wrote:
>>>> On Apr 30, 6:26 am, BL<B...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 4/29/2011 10:15 PM, Substance McGravitas wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/29/2011 6:33 PM, RicodJour wrote:
>>>>>>> On Apr 29, 5:57 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky"<Mi...@ChainReaction.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Great read, thanks for the link!
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Funny that the part you take away from this article is about Lance
>>>>>>>> and his
>>>>>>>> legal team. The article had little to say about that; rather, it
>>>>>>>> was, as
>>>>>>>> your subject line states, Emma addressing Strickland, and the
>>>>>>>> weight the
>>>>>>>> media places on her testimony vs others.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The part I found most interesting was this-
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Years ago I gave an interview to David Walsh, in which I told him
>>>>>>>> the truth
>>>>>>>> of what I had seen and experienced in my years in cycling.
>>>>>>>> Incidentally, I
>>>>>>>> got paid a small sum of money for all the time I put into helping
>>>>>>>> David."
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I found this interesting:
>>>>>>> "But now I am sick to death of journalists and people in the media
>>>>>>> using my facts to help whatever point they want to get across. They
>>>>>>> chase me like dogs in heat when they are trying to get their story,
>>>>>>> then drop me if they've got their facts or I won't elaborate or
>>>>>>> embellish their story.
>>>>>>> {snip}
>>>>>>> For the record, I might not have achieved anything like Lance
>>>>>>> has—who
>>>>>>> has? But I live a nice, quiet life running a small business, with my
>>>>>>> two dogs and my boyfriend."
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chase me like a dog in heat? What woman would say that? It's
>>>>>>> implying she's a female dog - a bitch. Very odd. Then I read the
>>>>>>> last part - and that explained it all. She's in business with the
>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>> dogs (notice the first billing) and her boyfriend. I wonder who's
>>>>>>> top
>>>>>>> dog? =:O
>>>>>
>>>>>>> R
>>>>>
>>>>>> Shes's sick of people who wont listen and take her staements out of
>>>>>> context - like you and Brian. It pisses her off. That's all she
>>>>>> said in
>>>>>> the bits you twisted.
>>>>>
>>>>> Show me where I've taken any of her statements out of context.
>>>>
>>>> Out of context isn't a precise account of what she said. Folks with
>>>> their own agenda, selling newspapers, books, gossip mongers, the
>>>> "bring down Lance" brigade etc. Her desire was to rid cycling of drugs
>>>> and the impression that Lance the bully went after her.......well, you
>>>> can make accusations, but you'd better be able to back them up with
>>>> facts otherwise you're wide open to attack.....simple as that. She's
>>>> right...she was very naive.
>>>> Phil H
>>> Re-read what RICO wrote. He said I took what she said out of context.
>>> Show me where I have ever taken what she has said out of context.
>>
>> You're not capable of seeing your own misrepresentations. You are not
>> constrained by reality. "Each reader will take from her statement what
>> they will" justifies claiming that she was talking about anything.
>>
>> You claim the article was about Lance's legal team, no reasonable person
>> would read it that way.
> The short answer is "No, I haven't taken anything she has said out of
> context."
>
> Further, I made no claims at all, FuckTard. I pointed out one aspect of
> her statement that I found interesting. Other readers will be
> interestred in other aspects of her statement. That does not mean that
> anyone is taking any part of her statement out of context. I suggest you
> go back to your room and finish whacking off to your Lance poster
> collection. And shut the door so you don't disturb Mommy.
I said that no reasonable person would read this article as being about
Lance's legal team, and you defend your reasonableness with an obscenity
laced tirade.
You are not required to confirm everything I type, just so you know.
== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 11:40 am
From: Substance McGravitas
On 5/1/2011 9:48 AM, Anton Berlin wrote:
> On Apr 30, 11:55 pm, RicodJour<ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 30, 9:27 pm, Anton Berlin<truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Wait a sec - she was asked to tell the truth. Put under oath and
>>> appears to have done so. Because of that she's paid a price -
>>> suffered consequences. We all know this can happen.
>>
>> True. We also know that people commit perjury, juggle kittens and
>> steal library books. So let me take the opportunity to say I hate
>> Vino. He's a dick and I hope he Rasmussen's himself in his next time
>> trial.
>>
>>> Would you trust Lance Armstrong to tell the truth when there would be
>>> consequences for him ?
>>
>>> I doubt anyone in this forum can honestly say they would.
>>
>> No offense, pizza boy, but I can honestly say I wouldn't trust you to
>> tell the truth if there were consequences for you.
>> I am not 100% sure, but I believe this is what they call "life." This
>> is why we watch sports - to get away from life, no?
>>
>> R
>
> I wouldn't count on me to give the same opinion as 1 in a million
> people - but you can rely on me telling the truth. There's a huge
> difference.
Really? You don't tell lies when it's in your interest to do so? Never?
There's Jim Carey movie based on a guy like that.
== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 1:14 pm
From: Fred Flintstein
On 5/1/2011 11:48 AM, Anton Berlin wrote:
> On Apr 30, 11:55 pm, RicodJour<ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 30, 9:27 pm, Anton Berlin<truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Wait a sec - she was asked to tell the truth. Put under oath and
>>> appears to have done so. Because of that she's paid a price -
>>> suffered consequences. We all know this can happen.
>>
>> True. We also know that people commit perjury, juggle kittens and
>> steal library books. So let me take the opportunity to say I hate
>> Vino. He's a dick and I hope he Rasmussen's himself in his next time
>> trial.
>>
>>> Would you trust Lance Armstrong to tell the truth when there would be
>>> consequences for him ?
>>
>>> I doubt anyone in this forum can honestly say they would.
>>
>> No offense, pizza boy, but I can honestly say I wouldn't trust you to
>> tell the truth if there were consequences for you.
>> I am not 100% sure, but I believe this is what they call "life." This
>> is why we watch sports - to get away from life, no?
>>
>> R
>
> I wouldn't count on me to give the same opinion as 1 in a million
> people - but you can rely on me telling the truth. There's a huge
> difference.
I would 100% count on you to tell the truth as you wish
to see it.
Fred Flintstein
== 6 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 1:20 pm
From: Frederick the Great
In article <asydnRxlac7fsybQnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
BL <BL@nowhere.com> wrote:
"I spoke to David because I felt that by not talking I
was a part of a problem that is actually bigger than
Lance. The big problem is drugs in cycling."
She thinks Lance is a problem.
"If my word is so worthless, Mr. Strickland, why did
Lance feel the need to terrorize me for more than two
years? Why did Lance feel the need to try and break me?"
Help! I'm being repressed.
"So I generally get harassment on both sides all
because I was stupid enough to speak the truth."
Sometimes breaking a confidence is not adherence to truth.
Calling somebody a problem, then complaining
that they take action against you is naive,
stupid, or cunning.
Emma O'Reilly was and is to this day on a crusade. To
be on a crusade is to pick a fight. I am not obliged,
or likely, to cheer her on. I do enjoy watching a good scrap.
--
Old Fritz
== 7 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 1:48 pm
From: Michael Press
In article <4dbc5190$1@news.x-privat.org>,
Substance McGravitas <Fred@Burger.com> wrote:
> On 4/29/2011 7:55 PM, Fred Flintstein wrote:
> > On 4/29/2011 6:46 PM, Substance McGravitas wrote:
> >> On 4/29/2011 2:31 PM, BL wrote:
> >>> Interesting how Armstrong went after her with his legal team but
> >>> couldn't crack her.
> >>> http://bicycling.com/blogs/theselection/2011/04/27/emma-o%E2%80%99reilly-responds-to-strickland%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%9Cendgame%E2%80%9D/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> She comes across as pretty well balanced. You could learn a lot from
> >> rereading the article and trying to notice the parts you naturally
> >> block out. It'd be a big effort, but it'd pay dividends.
> >>
> >> She's believable and has a decent perspective.
> >
> > I think when Strickland says that if it's her word against
> > LANCE's then LANCE wins he was speaking in a legal sense. At
> > least that's how I took it.
> >
> > Emma seems to have a different read on it, that Strickland is
> > saying that LANCE is more believable.
> >
> > Fred Flintstein
>
> Agreed. She took it personally and I'm sure it wasn't intended that way.
She is in it for the action. Ten years after she is
tweaking people. Those who think they made a naive and
youthful mistake do their level best to live it down.
Emma is still scrapping.
--
Michael Press
== 8 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 2:27 pm
From: RicodJour
On May 1, 12:48 pm, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 30, 11:55 pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 30, 9:27 pm, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Wait a sec - she was asked to tell the truth. Put under oath and
> > > appears to have done so. Because of that she's paid a price -
> > > suffered consequences. We all know this can happen.
>
> > True. We also know that people commit perjury, juggle kittens and
> > steal library books. So let me take the opportunity to say I hate
> > Vino. He's a dick and I hope he Rasmussen's himself in his next time
> > trial.
>
> > > Would you trust Lance Armstrong to tell the truth when there would be
> > > consequences for him ?
>
> > > I doubt anyone in this forum can honestly say they would.
>
> > No offense, pizza boy, but I can honestly say I wouldn't trust you to
> > tell the truth if there were consequences for you.
> > I am not 100% sure, but I believe this is what they call "life." This
> > is why we watch sports - to get away from life, no?
>
>
> I wouldn't count on me to give the same opinion as 1 in a million
> people - but you can rely on me telling the truth. There's a huge
> difference.
Of course. No one has ever lied after they said they were telling the
truth. Or before. Or during.
Now put money, reputation and other penalties to be named later on the
other side of that balance beam.
I don't even believe you about your fookin' pizza. I've never tasted
it. I keep pricking up my ears and barking when the FedEx truck rolls
by - maybe it's the dog barking, I don't know - but no pizza ever
arrives. Liar.
R
== 9 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 5:56 pm
From: Fredmaster of Brainerd
On Apr 30, 7:06 pm, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 29, 4:31 pm, BL <B...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
> > Interesting how Armstrong went after her with his legal team but
> > couldn't crack her.http://bicycling.com/blogs/theselection/2011/04/27/emma-o%E2%80%99rei...
>
> BL anyone with a 3rd grade reading ability would read this section of
> the article and come up with the conclusion you wrote.
>
> "why did Lance's legal team feel the need to go to the High Court the
> morning of my testimony for the above case so they could sit in on it?
> They would have known that I was without my lawyer, another bullying
> tactic that I had become accustomed too. Unfortunately, it's hard to
> effectively bully someone who is telling the truth."
>
> Yes - Lance's legal team went after her and couldn't crack her and
> the rest of these RBR jokers are being stupid cunts. It must be
> some kind of silly grade school game they play.
Newsflash: Some top athletes are aggressive and
competitive off the playing field! To the point of being
jackasses even!
WTF do you aunties expect. LANCE is famous for talking
about The Shit That Will Kill Them, not the spit that will
make them slightly uncomfortable.
This is kind of like NFL fans talking about what a shame
it is that their favorite spectacle damages the brains of
the gladiators they contract to watch. If only someone
would do something about it! But not, you know, anything
that would affect the game's watchability.
Fredmaster Ben
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TOPIC: Tour de Romandie, stage 5 summary
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/7b973a28476460c6?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 11:17 am
From: Bob Martin
Stage 5 : May 1, Champagne - Geneva, 164.6 km
1 Ben Swift (GBr) Sky Procycling 3.50.51
2 Davide Vigano (Ita) Leopard Trek
3 Oscar Freire Gomez (Spa) Rabobank Cycling Team
4 Fabio Sabatini (Ita) Liquigas-Cannondale
5 Enrico Gasparotto (Ita) Pro Team Astana
6 Fumiyuki Beppu (Jpn) Team RadioShack
7 Tony Martin (Ger) HTC-Highroad
8 Nicolas Roche (Irl) AG2R La Mondiale
9 Yukiya Arashiro (Jpn) Team Europcar
10 Enrique Sanz (Spa) Movistar Team
Changes in GC, stage 5 compared to stage 4 :
Biggest gainers by position :
+19 Christopher Sutton
+18 Oscar Pujol Munoz
+18 Matthew Wilson
+17 Enrique Sanz
+17 Artem Ovechkin
+14 Mirco Lorenzetto
+13 Fabio Sabatini
+12 Marco Corti
+11 Tiziano Dall'Antonia
+11 Alan Marangoni
Biggest losers by position :
-52 David Loosli
-49 Vladimir Gusev
-47 Inaki Isasi Flores
-47 Luke Roberts
-38 Dennis Van Winden
-11 Patrick Gretsch
-10 Jerome Cousin
-6 Maarten Neyens
-5 Danilo Wyss
-5 Jonathan Castroviejo Nicolas
-5 Marco Bandiera
Biggest gainers by time :
+0:10 Ben Swift
+0:06 Davide Vigano
+0:04 Oscar Freire Gomez
Biggest losers by time :
-20:38 Benjamin Noval Gonzalez
-20:38 Danilo Wyss
-20:38 David Loosli
-20:38 Dennis Van Winden
-20:38 Francesco Chicchi
-20:38 Inaki Isasi Flores
-20:38 Jack Bobridge
-20:38 Jan Tratnik
-20:38 Jerome Cousin
-20:38 Jonathan Castroviejo Nicolas
-20:38 Joost Van Leijen
Favourites by position :
+4 Luis Leon Sanchez Gil
+3 Roman Kreuziger
+2 Haimar Zubeldia Agirre
-3 Richie Porte
Favourites by time :
-0:13 Ivan Basso
-0:13 David Zabriskie
-0:34 Bradley Wiggins
-0:54 Roman Kreuziger
-20:38 Richie Porte
Top 10 and favourites GC standings (previous stage in parens) :
1 Cadel Evans 16:51:49 (unchanged)
2 Tony Martin 0:18 (unchanged)
3 Alexandre Vinokourov 0:19 (unchanged)
4 Marco Pinotti 0:31 (unchanged)
5 Benat Intxausti Elorriaga 0:41 (unchanged)
6 Pieter Weening 0:51 (unchanged)
7 Janez Brajkovic 0:52 (unchanged)
8 Pavel Brutt 0:58 (unchanged)
9 Andrew Talansky 0:59 (unchanged)
10 David Millar 1:00 (unchanged)
11 Linus Gerdemann 1:06 (unchanged)
.....
14 Denis Menchov 1:16 (unchanged)
.....
31 Ivan Basso 3:03 (was 31st at 2:50)
32 David Zabriskie 3:06 (was 32nd at 2:53)
.....
39 Haimar Zubeldia Agirre 3:35 (was 41st at 3:35)
.....
46 Vladimir Karpets 4:01 (unchanged)
.....
56 Luis Leon Sanchez Gil 6:18 (was 60th at 6:18)
.....
62 Bradley Wiggins 7:15 (was 62nd at 6:41)
63 Roman Kreuziger 7:50 (was 66th at 6:56)
.....
121 Richie Porte 48:57 (was 118th at 28:19)
Top 10 on Points table
1 Matthias Brandle 12
2 Dario David Cioni 7
3 Pavel Brutt 6
4 Chris Anker Sorensen 6
5 Christophe Kern 6
6 Jerome Cousin 6
7 Jack Bobridge 6
8 Ignatas Konovalovas 6
9 Oleksandr Kvachuk 4
10 Branislau Samoilau 4
Top 10 on Mountains table
1 Chris Anker Sorensen 32
2 Oleksandr Kvachuk 28
3 Pavel Brutt 22
4 Branislau Samoilau 22
5 Pierre Rolland 16
6 Christophe Kern 14
7 Ignatas Konovalovas 14
8 Roman Kreuziger 12
9 Vladimir Gusev 12
10 Steven Kruijswijk 12
Retirements to date : Stage
Bert Grabsch (Ger) HTC-Highroad 5 <<<
Frantisek Rabon (Cze) HTC-Highroad 5 <<<
Gerald Ciolek (Ger) Quickstep Cycling Team 5 <<<
Manuele Mori (Ita) Lampre - ISD 5 <<<
Paolo Longo Borghini (Ita) Liquigas-Cannondale 5 <<<
Rick Flens (Ned) Rabobank Cycling Team 5 <<<
Taylor Phinney (USA) BMC Racing Team 5 <<<
Tom Stamsnijder (Ned) Leopard Trek 5 <<<
Adam Blythe (GBr) Omega Pharma-Lotto 4
Addy Engels (Ned) Quickstep Cycling Team 4
Leigh Howard (Aus) HTC-Highroad 4
Marc De Maar (AHo) Quickstep Cycling Team 4
Matteo Bono (Ita) Lampre - ISD 4
Wouter Mol (Ned) Vacansoleil-DCM Pro Cycling Team 3
Ben Hermans (Bel) Team RadioShack 2
Sebastien Rosseler (Bel) Team RadioShack 2
Simone Ponzi (Ita) Liquigas-Cannondale 2
Thomas Leezer (Ned) Rabobank Cycling Team 2
Daniele Bennati (Ita) Leopard Trek 1
Maxim Iglinskiy (Kaz) Pro Team Astana 1
Nicki Sorensen (Den) Saxo Bank Sungard 1
Robert Kiserlovski (Cro) Pro Team Astana 1
Total retirements : 22
(This report can also be seen at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rvmartin2)
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 1:23 pm
From: Fred Flintstein
On 5/1/2011 1:17 PM, Bob Martin wrote:
>
> Retirements to date : Stage
> Taylor Phinney (USA) BMC Racing Team 5<<<
Nope, he didn't make it to Geneva.
If someone wants to get a boner about a kid from Colorado
with good blood lines, looks like Peter Stetina is the
one. He's smaller and lighter with better stage racing
potential.
Fred Flintstein
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TOPIC: One down, one to go!
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 8:54 pm
From: Substance McGravitas
Now, if we can just bring LA to justice!
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 9:12 pm
From: Fred
On May 1, 9:54 pm, Substance McGravitas <F...@Burger.com> wrote:
> Got one:http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/osama-bin-laden-killed/story?id=1350570...
>
> Now, if we can just bring LA to justice!
STFU
Fred
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