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haiii everybody,,,i'm new comer in this group. i'm revi,, i need a
journal to my riset. i found a journal but i can't open. hopefull this
group can help me. The journal title :
"A reassessment of the epidemiology of Rice yellow mottle virus
following recent advances in field and molecular studies"

O. Traoréa, A. Pinel-Galzib, F. Sorhoc, S. Sarrad, M. Rakotomalalae,
E. Sanguf, Z. Kanyekaf, Y. Sérég, G. Konatéa and D. Fargetteb,
Corresponding Author Contact Information, E-mail The Corresponding
Author
aInstitut de l'Environnement et de Recherches Agricoles (INERA), 01 BP
476, Ouagadougou, Burkina Faso
bInstitut de Recherche pour le Développement (IRD), UMR 186/RPB
"Resistance des Plantes aux Bioagresseurs", BP 64501, 34394
Montpellier cedex 5, France
cLaboratoire de Physiologie Végétale, UFR Biosciences, Université de
Cocody, 22 BP 582, Abidjan 22, Côte d'Ivoire
dInstitut d'Economie Rurale (IER), Programme Riz Irrigué, BP 12,
Niono, Mali
eFOFIFA, BP 289, Mahajanga 401, Madagascar
fBotany Department, University of Dar es Salaam, BP 35061, Dar es
Salaam, Tanzania
gAfrica Rice Center (WARDA), 01 BP 2031, Cotonou, Bénin

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The Metabolism of Phytohaemagglutinin during Incubation with Human Peripheral Lymphocytes

Charles K. Naspitz, Maxwell Richter

British Journal of Haematology

Volume 15, Issue 1, pages 77–86, July 1968

 DOI: 10.1111/j.1365-2141.1968.tb01513.x

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2141.1968.tb01513.x/abstract

 

 

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ISHS Acta Horticulturae 501: II WOCMAP Congress Medicinal and Aromatic
Plants, Part 2: Pharmacognosy, Pharmacology, Phytomedicine,
Toxicology.

ANTIMICROBIAL ACTIVITY OF ESSENTIAL OILS FROM PLANTS USED IN BRAZILIAN
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On Apr 29, 3:59 pm, anandkumarreddy <anandkumarre...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > against a large number of oral pathogens. Annals of microbiology.
> > 2010;60(4):599-604.
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> > 2.) Sauro S, Gandolfi MG, Prati C, Mongiorgi R. Oxalate-containing
> > phytocomplexes as dentine desensitisers: an in vitro study. Arch Oral
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> > 3.) Prabhakar J, Senthilkumar M, Priya MS, Mahalakshmi K, Sehgal PK,
> > Sukumaran VG. Evaluation of antimicrobial efficacy of herbal
> > alternatives (Triphala and green tea polyphenols), MTAD, and 5% sodium
> > hypochlorite against Enterococcus faecalis biofilm formed on tooth
> > substrate: an in vitro study. J Endod. 2010 Jan;36(1):83-6.
>
> > DOI:10.1016/j.joen.2009.09.040
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> >http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B82X7-4XP8TF...
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> > _____________________________________________________________________________________________
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> > 4.) Pamir T, Ozyazici M, Balo─člu E, Onal B. The efficacy of three
> > desensitizing agents in treatment of dentine hypersensitivity. J Clin
> > Pharm Ther. 2005 Feb;30(1):73-6.
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> > DOI: 10.1111/j.1365-2710.2004.00613.x
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No association between maternal pre-pregnancy obesity and risk of hypospadias or cryptorchidism in male newborns

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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, May 2 2011 11:27 pm
From: Too_Many_Tools


On May 3, 12:11 am, Salad <sa...@oilandvinegar.com> wrote:
> Gray Ghost wrote:
> > 69ingchipmu...@park.com wrote in news:mqcur6hl80ida1fd9dlqqqlaagj0igjrao@
> > 4ax.com:
>
> >>On Mon, 02 May 2011 16:55:33 -0500, Gray Ghost
> >><grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>69ingchipmu...@park.com wrote in
> >>>news:na6ur6prip02erjov1b3r4tsnhkp0vsrfr@4ax.com:
>
> >>>>On Mon, 02 May 2011 15:41:56 -0500, Gray Ghost
> >>>><grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>Fritz Wuehler <fr...@spamexpire-201105.rodent.frell.theremailer.net>
> >>>>>wrote in
> >>>>>news:210b88e56eb32747b49f4127490adabf@msgid.frell.theremailer.net:
>
> >>>>>>In article <mh3tr619cq7aejoprk7bok4uqogmjr8...@4ax.com>
> >>>>>>Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>Republicans
>
> >>>>>>sit back and count the days until Obama is out of office.
>
> >>>>>http://www.obamacountdownwidget.com/
>
> >>>>I am not too sure Herman has the right policies to win . I do like him
> >>>>though in general .
>
> >>>Allen West?
>
> >>I am not real sure another black man will get elected after the stuff
> >>Obama has done , or not done and not kept his word on .
> >>Not that he is the only bad one we have had  just that he is the first
> >>black man we have had . If he would have been a good president and
> >>accomplished something good then that would have made a big difference
> >>.
> >>He would have to do a 180 and start doing something positive about the
> >>economy instead of just spending money to come out of this smelling
> >>good .
>
> > I would like to think that Obama is a loser because he is a brain dead
> > leftist, not because he's black. I like Cain and West mainly because it
> > isn't the same old recycled shit and they both sound intelligent and
> > conservative. The fact they are clack is a delicious irony. Sort of ruins
> > the "you're all racists" line of campaigning the left is so good at. I like
> > Ryan too, he seems to have balls and some very good ideas.
>
> The fringe lunatics you wish were candidates have no chance in hell of
> being president.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

That is because Gray Gonads is a lunatic himself.

TMT


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, May 3 2011 6:39 am
From: 69ingchipmunks@park.com


On Mon, 02 May 2011 18:28:55 -0500, Gray Ghost
<grey_ghost471-newsgroups@yahoo.com> wrote:

>69ingchipmunks@park.com wrote in news:mqcur6hl80ida1fd9dlqqqlaagj0igjrao@
>4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 02 May 2011 16:55:33 -0500, Gray Ghost
>><grey_ghost471-newsgroups@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>69ingchipmunks@park.com wrote in
>>>news:na6ur6prip02erjov1b3r4tsnhkp0vsrfr@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 02 May 2011 15:41:56 -0500, Gray Ghost
>>>><grey_ghost471-newsgroups@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201105.rodent.frell.theremailer.net>
>>>>>wrote in
>>>>>news:210b88e56eb32747b49f4127490adabf@msgid.frell.theremailer.net:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article <mh3tr619cq7aejoprk7bok4uqogmjr80bn@4ax.com>
>>>>>> Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Republicans
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sit back and count the days until Obama is out of office.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.obamacountdownwidget.com/
>>>> I am not too sure Herman has the right policies to win . I do like him
>>>> though in general .
>>>>
>>>
>>>Allen West?
>> I am not real sure another black man will get elected after the stuff
>> Obama has done , or not done and not kept his word on .
>> Not that he is the only bad one we have had just that he is the first
>> black man we have had . If he would have been a good president and
>> accomplished something good then that would have made a big difference
>> .
>> He would have to do a 180 and start doing something positive about the
>> economy instead of just spending money to come out of this smelling
>> good .
>>
>
>I would like to think that Obama is a loser because he is a brain dead
>leftist, not because he's black. I like Cain and West mainly because it
>isn't the same old recycled shit and they both sound intelligent and
>conservative. The fact they are clack is a delicious irony. Sort of ruins
>the "you're all racists" line of campaigning the left is so good at. I like
>Ryan too, he seems to have balls and some very good ideas.
that is it exactly . Obama is just a bad president . nothing to do
with him being black . But liberals need to cry racist so let them .
there is no dealing with their insanity . they claim all republicans
are white . they are just like that swarm of gnats at your picnic
table . Annoying


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, May 3 2011 9:12 am
From: Gunner Asch


On Tue, 03 May 2011 08:39:04 -0500, 69ingchipmunks@park.com wrote:

>On Mon, 02 May 2011 18:28:55 -0500, Gray Ghost
><grey_ghost471-newsgroups@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>69ingchipmunks@park.com wrote in news:mqcur6hl80ida1fd9dlqqqlaagj0igjrao@
>>4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Mon, 02 May 2011 16:55:33 -0500, Gray Ghost
>>><grey_ghost471-newsgroups@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>69ingchipmunks@park.com wrote in
>>>>news:na6ur6prip02erjov1b3r4tsnhkp0vsrfr@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 02 May 2011 15:41:56 -0500, Gray Ghost
>>>>><grey_ghost471-newsgroups@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201105.rodent.frell.theremailer.net>
>>>>>>wrote in
>>>>>>news:210b88e56eb32747b49f4127490adabf@msgid.frell.theremailer.net:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article <mh3tr619cq7aejoprk7bok4uqogmjr80bn@4ax.com>
>>>>>>> Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Republicans
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sit back and count the days until Obama is out of office.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.obamacountdownwidget.com/
>>>>> I am not too sure Herman has the right policies to win . I do like him
>>>>> though in general .
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Allen West?
>>> I am not real sure another black man will get elected after the stuff
>>> Obama has done , or not done and not kept his word on .
>>> Not that he is the only bad one we have had just that he is the first
>>> black man we have had . If he would have been a good president and
>>> accomplished something good then that would have made a big difference
>>> .
>>> He would have to do a 180 and start doing something positive about the
>>> economy instead of just spending money to come out of this smelling
>>> good .
>>>
>>
>>I would like to think that Obama is a loser because he is a brain dead
>>leftist, not because he's black. I like Cain and West mainly because it
>>isn't the same old recycled shit and they both sound intelligent and
>>conservative. The fact they are clack is a delicious irony. Sort of ruins
>>the "you're all racists" line of campaigning the left is so good at. I like
>>Ryan too, he seems to have balls and some very good ideas.
>that is it exactly . Obama is just a bad president . nothing to do
>with him being black . But liberals need to cry racist so let them .
>there is no dealing with their insanity . they claim all republicans
>are white . they are just like that swarm of gnats at your picnic
>table . Annoying

Hell..the Obamassiah isnt even black. He is 50% white, 44% middle
eastern and only..only 6% black.


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== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, May 3 2011 11:04 am
From: 69ingchipmunks@park.com


On Tue, 03 May 2011 09:12:52 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunnerasch@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Tue, 03 May 2011 08:39:04 -0500, 69ingchipmunks@park.com wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 02 May 2011 18:28:55 -0500, Gray Ghost
>><grey_ghost471-newsgroups@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>69ingchipmunks@park.com wrote in news:mqcur6hl80ida1fd9dlqqqlaagj0igjrao@
>>>4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 02 May 2011 16:55:33 -0500, Gray Ghost
>>>><grey_ghost471-newsgroups@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>69ingchipmunks@park.com wrote in
>>>>>news:na6ur6prip02erjov1b3r4tsnhkp0vsrfr@4ax.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 02 May 2011 15:41:56 -0500, Gray Ghost
>>>>>><grey_ghost471-newsgroups@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201105.rodent.frell.theremailer.net>
>>>>>>>wrote in
>>>>>>>news:210b88e56eb32747b49f4127490adabf@msgid.frell.theremailer.net:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In article <mh3tr619cq7aejoprk7bok4uqogmjr80bn@4ax.com>
>>>>>>>> Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Republicans
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> sit back and count the days until Obama is out of office.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.obamacountdownwidget.com/
>>>>>> I am not too sure Herman has the right policies to win . I do like him
>>>>>> though in general .
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Allen West?
>>>> I am not real sure another black man will get elected after the stuff
>>>> Obama has done , or not done and not kept his word on .
>>>> Not that he is the only bad one we have had just that he is the first
>>>> black man we have had . If he would have been a good president and
>>>> accomplished something good then that would have made a big difference
>>>> .
>>>> He would have to do a 180 and start doing something positive about the
>>>> economy instead of just spending money to come out of this smelling
>>>> good .
>>>>
>>>
>>>I would like to think that Obama is a loser because he is a brain dead
>>>leftist, not because he's black. I like Cain and West mainly because it
>>>isn't the same old recycled shit and they both sound intelligent and
>>>conservative. The fact they are clack is a delicious irony. Sort of ruins
>>>the "you're all racists" line of campaigning the left is so good at. I like
>>>Ryan too, he seems to have balls and some very good ideas.
>>that is it exactly . Obama is just a bad president . nothing to do
>>with him being black . But liberals need to cry racist so let them .
>>there is no dealing with their insanity . they claim all republicans
>>are white . they are just like that swarm of gnats at your picnic
>>table . Annoying
>
>Hell..the Obamassiah isnt even black. He is 50% white, 44% middle
>eastern and only..only 6% black.
but he only claims to be black like most partial blacks . The black
makes them hate all other races .


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, May 3 2011 11:43 am
From: Gray Ghost


69ingchipmunks@park.com wrote in
news:d610s65rb01c9f5d9hkkbv27rgipo6f8k9@4ax.com:

> On Mon, 02 May 2011 18:28:55 -0500, Gray Ghost
><grey_ghost471-newsgroups@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>69ingchipmunks@park.com wrote in
>>news:mqcur6hl80ida1fd9dlqqqlaagj0igjrao@ 4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Mon, 02 May 2011 16:55:33 -0500, Gray Ghost
>>><grey_ghost471-newsgroups@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>69ingchipmunks@park.com wrote in
>>>>news:na6ur6prip02erjov1b3r4tsnhkp0vsrfr@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 02 May 2011 15:41:56 -0500, Gray Ghost
>>>>><grey_ghost471-newsgroups@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201105.rodent.frell.theremailer.net>
>>>>>>wrote in
>>>>>>news:210b88e56eb32747b49f4127490adabf@msgid.frell.theremailer.net:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article <mh3tr619cq7aejoprk7bok4uqogmjr80bn@4ax.com>
>>>>>>> Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Republicans
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sit back and count the days until Obama is out of office.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.obamacountdownwidget.com/
>>>>> I am not too sure Herman has the right policies to win . I do like
>>>>> him though in general .
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Allen West?
>>> I am not real sure another black man will get elected after the stuff
>>> Obama has done , or not done and not kept his word on .
>>> Not that he is the only bad one we have had just that he is the first
>>> black man we have had . If he would have been a good president and
>>> accomplished something good then that would have made a big difference
>>> .
>>> He would have to do a 180 and start doing something positive about the
>>> economy instead of just spending money to come out of this smelling
>>> good .
>>>
>>
>>I would like to think that Obama is a loser because he is a brain dead
>>leftist, not because he's black. I like Cain and West mainly because it
>>isn't the same old recycled shit and they both sound intelligent and
>>conservative. The fact they are clack is a delicious irony. Sort of
>>ruins the "you're all racists" line of campaigning the left is so good
>>at. I like Ryan too, he seems to have balls and some very good ideas.
> that is it exactly . Obama is just a bad president . nothing to do
> with him being black . But liberals need to cry racist so let them .
> there is no dealing with their insanity . they claim all republicans
> are white . they are just like that swarm of gnats at your picnic
> table . Annoying
>

It has to be racism, dontcha know, it can't be the liberals picked a moron
or that their philosophy that's flawed.

--
Herman Cain for President! http://hermancain.com/
If you don't support him you are a Racist!!
He beat Cancer. He'll beat Obama (who is just like cancer)

Remember Desert One, Carter 0? Ain't it sad to wish that Obama had as much
ambition but being glad he doesn't knowing he doesn't have THAT much
competence?

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Osama Buried At Sea
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ne-patriots/t/02d34e42cdb34d5d?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, May 3 2011 6:45 am
From: Michael


On May 2, 10:49 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> news:61759c81-2975-453e-9e1e-852b24b54e5b@j28g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
> On May 2, 7:56 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:671c3483-385a-47e8-b96e-e91643c087dd@e21g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
> > On May 2, 4:33 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> > >news:c9960b31-ab68-42af-ab59-7ae005776316@d12g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
> > > On May 2, 3:00 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> > > >news:ede6764b-c9e3-4b28-ab40-0e1eb090593d@d12g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
> > > > On May 2, 1:45 pm, cloud dreamer <S...@Resources.now> wrote:
>
> > > > > On 02/05/2011 3:12 PM, Michael wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 2, 11:24 am, HVAC<mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> Right next to Megatron.
>
> > > > > >> And we know how that worked out for HIM.
>
> > > > > >> --
> > > > > >> "OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit
> > > > > >> Girlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo
>
> > > > > > why where the so quick to dispose of the body ???
>
> > > > > > Now Osama is in hiding with Hitler, Elvis and Jim Morrison
>
> > > > > Islamic burial requirements say he has to be buried within 24 hours.
> > > > > Defying that risked upsetting more people than the fact that they
> > > > > killed
> > > > > him at all.
>
> > > > > They tried to give the body to Saudi Arabia but they refused.
> > > > > Burying
> > > > > it
> > > > > in Pakistan was out of the question, so he got an Islamic funeral
> > > > > and
> > > > > burial at sea.
>
> > > > >http://cheezburger.com/View/4715946752
>
> > > > > ..
>
> > > > > --
> > > > > We must change the way we live
> > > > > Or the climate will do it for us
>
> > > > that is an excellent reason to burry him at sea, but I assure you, the
> > > > conspiracy mongers wont ever let go of this one. The "9-11 truth"
> > > > movement is not trivial and this fast disposal of the body is going to
> > > > be their holy grail.
>
> > > > So how would burying a criminal who was a Jew be treated? It's the
> > > > same
> > > > burial law....and to not go with it would only serve to alienate a
> > > > huge
> > > > number of people...I am aware some don't care about that issue at all
> > > > and
> > > > even welcome it...to me, that is pure stupidity and suicide in the
> > > > end.
> > > > This was a good decision that had to be made quickly. If he were
> > > > burried
> > > > anywhere identifiable it would be an endless stream of idiots trying
> > > > to
> > > > dig
> > > > him up and some would seize it to make him a hero...he's shark food
> > > > now...good use for him.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > i'm not in dispute of what you have written above... those are all
> > > excellent points. but then again, i can argue against it too. i
> > > had a feeling that when he was found... if ever... the body would not
> > > be around for more than a few short hours.
>
> > > always good to keep in mind, papa... how long did they keep the bodies
> > > of saddam's two sons on ice ??? both muslim too. plenty of time and
> > > oppertunity to get a good look at them was afforded... it was, as the
> > > article points out... a "damned if you do and damned if you dont"
> > > affair... most of the people involved in making the decision felt that
> > > it was important beyond all else to give the media and private sources
> > > adequate time to view/inspect the bodies. before burrial
>
> > > Both secular Muslims....not alligned with any religous activists.....
>
> > Oh... But the real fundamentalists like Osama and his pals were REAL
> > considerate to make sure the people at the WTC, Pentagon and on the
> > aircrafts they hijackd got a proper and traditional burrial. IMHO,
> > given the nature of the crime and the criminal, there should have
> > been COMPREHENSIVE independent forensic testing of the body to ensure
> > that it was bin Laden, and his death occurred as reported.
>
> > WTF are you talking about? You sound like an idiot...so if a terrorist
> > attacks we should become terrorists...that is your logic. If someone robs
> > you, mugs you, should you go outside and do the same to someone else? Or,
> > do we have standards as a culture and a nation. You create your "rules"
> > based on your preconceived ideas and bias. The Navy Seals, CIA and all of
> > those involved can make a good decision. Acting swiftly was the right
> > thing
> > to do. All we will do on this is argue.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Papa... You know what ???  It is acceptable if you treat a criminal
> like a criminal.  Would the cops avoid arresting a violent criminal on
> a sunday if he were christian ??? of course not.
>
> and further more...
>
> on one hand, you profess your gleaming confidence in the nations
> institutions and agencies.  follow their infallible lead, shall we ???
> they have it all in hand ???  we don't break from our accepted
> standards.  not us. never.  water boarding and arrests/detention
> without legal representation ??? ionizing radiation used on civilians
> by people that are not trained medical professionals.  the only one
> that sounds like an idiot is you.  I'm glad you are not running
> things.  people would wind up in the gulag for questioning
> government.
>
> what was it you said ???   " If someone robs you, mugs you, should you
> go outside and do the same to someone else?"
>
> don't lecture me. you sound like a simple flag waving moron.  do some
> real scholarly research and clue yourself in on what got us in all
> this business to begin with. really... give you brain a chance, man.
>
> Damn man....freakin read what you wrote...your logic was NOT about
> criminals...of course you treat a criminal like a criminal....don't be so
> stupid and arrogant.....I NEVER said anything like that nor did anyone else
> who can recognize intelligent decisions.  Scholarly research?????  Where is
> it written that the USA should drop all of it's values based on who did
> what?  You argue in circles.....NO all of the things done wrong do not make
> another thing done wrong right.  I'm through even trying to talk to you.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Papa...

My points are all mixed up here... I am actually not trying to be
offensive... let me get my stuff straightened out for you so you can
see what I'm trying to say...

I agree 100 % with you that as Americans, we should act like good guys
and not a bunch of Nazi stooges. Once you lose your moral compass and
trample on the law, you don't have anything left to preserve. I can't
stress enough that I agree with you 100 %!!!!

Here is where I got you confused. I would of course also agree with
you that the Osama corps not be disrespected, but I made it look like
I could care less about what was done. The "ends justify the means"
garbage.

Then... I detailed a number of unsavory things that were done by the
government in the interest of fighting terror. The Patriot Act,
ionizing radiation, torture not limited to water boarding... torture
for heck sake, detention without legal process, surreptitious
targeting of heads of state... I think recently we just participated
in the killing of some civilians trying to blow up momar....

And... You want to tell me that the same government and agencies that
did all that above actually care about the corps of public enemy
number one???

Given what I have written about, you could come to the conclusion that
the only reason they got rid of the body quickly was to hide
something. Like perhaps it has really been on ice for the past ten
years. Live bad guys make good reasons to spend and promote wars much
better then dead bad guys.

Now that Osama is dead, I guess all our guys come home and the patriot
act and the x-ray Nazis will be a thing of the past no??? Mmm Hmmm...

I'm not saying I go along with that stuff... Just making a point.

Again... I'm not trying to be a dick head. Just looking at things
from all angles


== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, May 3 2011 7:41 am
From: "Papa Carl"

"Michael" <mjd1966@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:e6be6e03-5cc4-4ddc-9815-76787bc5fec9@q20g2000vbx.googlegroups.com...
On May 2, 10:49 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> news:61759c81-2975-453e-9e1e-852b24b54e5b@j28g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
> On May 2, 7:56 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:671c3483-385a-47e8-b96e-e91643c087dd@e21g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
> > On May 2, 4:33 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> > >news:c9960b31-ab68-42af-ab59-7ae005776316@d12g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
> > > On May 2, 3:00 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> > > >news:ede6764b-c9e3-4b28-ab40-0e1eb090593d@d12g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
> > > > On May 2, 1:45 pm, cloud dreamer <S...@Resources.now> wrote:
>
> > > > > On 02/05/2011 3:12 PM, Michael wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 2, 11:24 am, HVAC<mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> Right next to Megatron.
>
> > > > > >> And we know how that worked out for HIM.
>
> > > > > >> --
> > > > > >> "OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit
> > > > > >> Girlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo
>
> > > > > > why where the so quick to dispose of the body ???
>
> > > > > > Now Osama is in hiding with Hitler, Elvis and Jim Morrison
>
> > > > > Islamic burial requirements say he has to be buried within 24
> > > > > hours.
> > > > > Defying that risked upsetting more people than the fact that they
> > > > > killed
> > > > > him at all.
>
> > > > > They tried to give the body to Saudi Arabia but they refused.
> > > > > Burying
> > > > > it
> > > > > in Pakistan was out of the question, so he got an Islamic funeral
> > > > > and
> > > > > burial at sea.
>
> > > > >http://cheezburger.com/View/4715946752
>
> > > > > ..
>
> > > > > --
> > > > > We must change the way we live
> > > > > Or the climate will do it for us
>
> > > > that is an excellent reason to burry him at sea, but I assure you,
> > > > the
> > > > conspiracy mongers wont ever let go of this one. The "9-11 truth"
> > > > movement is not trivial and this fast disposal of the body is going
> > > > to
> > > > be their holy grail.
>
> > > > So how would burying a criminal who was a Jew be treated? It's the
> > > > same
> > > > burial law....and to not go with it would only serve to alienate a
> > > > huge
> > > > number of people...I am aware some don't care about that issue at
> > > > all
> > > > and
> > > > even welcome it...to me, that is pure stupidity and suicide in the
> > > > end.
> > > > This was a good decision that had to be made quickly. If he were
> > > > burried
> > > > anywhere identifiable it would be an endless stream of idiots trying
> > > > to
> > > > dig
> > > > him up and some would seize it to make him a hero...he's shark food
> > > > now...good use for him.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > i'm not in dispute of what you have written above... those are all
> > > excellent points. but then again, i can argue against it too. i
> > > had a feeling that when he was found... if ever... the body would not
> > > be around for more than a few short hours.
>
> > > always good to keep in mind, papa... how long did they keep the bodies
> > > of saddam's two sons on ice ??? both muslim too. plenty of time and
> > > oppertunity to get a good look at them was afforded... it was, as the
> > > article points out... a "damned if you do and damned if you dont"
> > > affair... most of the people involved in making the decision felt that
> > > it was important beyond all else to give the media and private sources
> > > adequate time to view/inspect the bodies. before burrial
>
> > > Both secular Muslims....not alligned with any religous activists.....
>
> > Oh... But the real fundamentalists like Osama and his pals were REAL
> > considerate to make sure the people at the WTC, Pentagon and on the
> > aircrafts they hijackd got a proper and traditional burrial. IMHO,
> > given the nature of the crime and the criminal, there should have
> > been COMPREHENSIVE independent forensic testing of the body to ensure
> > that it was bin Laden, and his death occurred as reported.
>
> > WTF are you talking about? You sound like an idiot...so if a terrorist
> > attacks we should become terrorists...that is your logic. If someone
> > robs
> > you, mugs you, should you go outside and do the same to someone else?
> > Or,
> > do we have standards as a culture and a nation. You create your "rules"
> > based on your preconceived ideas and bias. The Navy Seals, CIA and all
> > of
> > those involved can make a good decision. Acting swiftly was the right
> > thing
> > to do. All we will do on this is argue.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Papa... You know what ??? It is acceptable if you treat a criminal
> like a criminal. Would the cops avoid arresting a violent criminal on
> a sunday if he were christian ??? of course not.
>
> and further more...
>
> on one hand, you profess your gleaming confidence in the nations
> institutions and agencies. follow their infallible lead, shall we ???
> they have it all in hand ??? we don't break from our accepted
> standards. not us. never. water boarding and arrests/detention
> without legal representation ??? ionizing radiation used on civilians
> by people that are not trained medical professionals. the only one
> that sounds like an idiot is you. I'm glad you are not running
> things. people would wind up in the gulag for questioning
> government.
>
> what was it you said ??? " If someone robs you, mugs you, should you
> go outside and do the same to someone else?"
>
> don't lecture me. you sound like a simple flag waving moron. do some
> real scholarly research and clue yourself in on what got us in all
> this business to begin with. really... give you brain a chance, man.
>
> Damn man....freakin read what you wrote...your logic was NOT about
> criminals...of course you treat a criminal like a criminal....don't be so
> stupid and arrogant.....I NEVER said anything like that nor did anyone
> else
> who can recognize intelligent decisions. Scholarly research????? Where is
> it written that the USA should drop all of it's values based on who did
> what? You argue in circles.....NO all of the things done wrong do not make
> another thing done wrong right. I'm through even trying to talk to you.-
> Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Papa...

My points are all mixed up here... I am actually not trying to be
offensive... let me get my stuff straightened out for you so you can
see what I'm trying to say...

I agree 100 % with you that as Americans, we should act like good guys
and not a bunch of Nazi stooges. Once you lose your moral compass and
trample on the law, you don't have anything left to preserve. I can't
stress enough that I agree with you 100 %!!!!

Here is where I got you confused. I would of course also agree with
you that the Osama corps not be disrespected, but I made it look like
I could care less about what was done. The "ends justify the means"
garbage.

Then... I detailed a number of unsavory things that were done by the
government in the interest of fighting terror. The Patriot Act,
ionizing radiation, torture not limited to water boarding... torture
for heck sake, detention without legal process, surreptitious
targeting of heads of state... I think recently we just participated
in the killing of some civilians trying to blow up momar....

And... You want to tell me that the same government and agencies that
did all that above actually care about the corps of public enemy
number one???

Given what I have written about, you could come to the conclusion that
the only reason they got rid of the body quickly was to hide
something. Like perhaps it has really been on ice for the past ten
years. Live bad guys make good reasons to spend and promote wars much
better then dead bad guys.

Now that Osama is dead, I guess all our guys come home and the patriot
act and the x-ray Nazis will be a thing of the past no??? Mmm Hmmm...

I'm not saying I go along with that stuff... Just making a point.

Again... I'm not trying to be a dick head. Just looking at things
from all angles

You are a product of what the media does today....tries to find all kinds of
angles instead of looking at any facts presented. I'm sure some video will
come out of the events unfolding...as for the body on ice for any
period....not when Bush was President it wasn't.....all of these
"conspiracies" can be made far less real if we look at facts and not let our
imaginations run wild. War is not nice...bad stuff happens...you can not
let guys do this kind of activity and act like choir boys...it just isn't
realistic...but I see no reason to believe this is other than what is being
presented. The compound appears around 2005...right around the time the
previous administration decided finding him was a low priority....looks like
the bad guys felt a little safer...and it looks like our duplicitous ally is
just that....playing both sides of the aisle. When you say stuff on the
internet...it looks like you are backing those ideas. I'm glad they got rid
of the body....can you imagine the instant shrine his grave would have
created? Who would want that in their country? Let his followers go follow
him now...let them go sleep with the fishes and into the jaws of
sharks...I'll loan them the money for the rafts to go out there.


== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, May 3 2011 8:46 am
From: Michael


On May 3, 10:41 am, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> news:e6be6e03-5cc4-4ddc-9815-76787bc5fec9@q20g2000vbx.googlegroups.com...
> On May 2, 10:49 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:61759c81-2975-453e-9e1e-852b24b54e5b@j28g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
> > On May 2, 7:56 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> > >news:671c3483-385a-47e8-b96e-e91643c087dd@e21g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
> > > On May 2, 4:33 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> > > >news:c9960b31-ab68-42af-ab59-7ae005776316@d12g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
> > > > On May 2, 3:00 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> > > > >news:ede6764b-c9e3-4b28-ab40-0e1eb090593d@d12g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > On May 2, 1:45 pm, cloud dreamer <S...@Resources.now> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On 02/05/2011 3:12 PM, Michael wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On May 2, 11:24 am, HVAC<mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >> Right next to Megatron.
>
> > > > > > >> And we know how that worked out for HIM.
>
> > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > >> "OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit
> > > > > > >> Girlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo
>
> > > > > > > why where the so quick to dispose of the body ???
>
> > > > > > > Now Osama is in hiding with Hitler, Elvis and Jim Morrison
>
> > > > > > Islamic burial requirements say he has to be buried within 24
> > > > > > hours.
> > > > > > Defying that risked upsetting more people than the fact that they
> > > > > > killed
> > > > > > him at all.
>
> > > > > > They tried to give the body to Saudi Arabia but they refused.
> > > > > > Burying
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > in Pakistan was out of the question, so he got an Islamic funeral
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > burial at sea.
>
> > > > > >http://cheezburger.com/View/4715946752
>
> > > > > > ..
>
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > We must change the way we live
> > > > > > Or the climate will do it for us
>
> > > > > that is an excellent reason to burry him at sea, but I assure you,
> > > > > the
> > > > > conspiracy mongers wont ever let go of this one. The "9-11 truth"
> > > > > movement is not trivial and this fast disposal of the body is going
> > > > > to
> > > > > be their holy grail.
>
> > > > > So how would burying a criminal who was a Jew be treated? It's the
> > > > > same
> > > > > burial law....and to not go with it would only serve to alienate a
> > > > > huge
> > > > > number of people...I am aware some don't care about that issue at
> > > > > all
> > > > > and
> > > > > even welcome it...to me, that is pure stupidity and suicide in the
> > > > > end.
> > > > > This was a good decision that had to be made quickly. If he were
> > > > > burried
> > > > > anywhere identifiable it would be an endless stream of idiots trying
> > > > > to
> > > > > dig
> > > > > him up and some would seize it to make him a hero...he's shark food
> > > > > now...good use for him.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > i'm not in dispute of what you have written above... those are all
> > > > excellent points. but then again, i can argue against it too. i
> > > > had a feeling that when he was found... if ever... the body would not
> > > > be around for more than a few short hours.
>
> > > > always good to keep in mind, papa... how long did they keep the bodies
> > > > of saddam's two sons on ice ??? both muslim too. plenty of time and
> > > > oppertunity to get a good look at them was afforded... it was, as the
> > > > article points out... a "damned if you do and damned if you dont"
> > > > affair... most of the people involved in making the decision felt that
> > > > it was important beyond all else to give the media and private sources
> > > > adequate time to view/inspect the bodies. before burrial
>
> > > > Both secular Muslims....not alligned with any religous activists.....
>
> > > Oh... But the real fundamentalists like Osama and his pals were REAL
> > > considerate to make sure the people at the WTC, Pentagon and on the
> > > aircrafts they hijackd got a proper and traditional burrial. IMHO,
> > > given the nature of the crime and the criminal, there should have
> > > been COMPREHENSIVE independent forensic testing of the body to ensure
> > > that it was bin Laden, and his death occurred as reported.
>
> > > WTF are you talking about? You sound like an idiot...so if a terrorist
> > > attacks we should become terrorists...that is your logic. If someone
> > > robs
> > > you, mugs you, should you go outside and do the same to someone else?
> > > Or,
> > > do we have standards as a culture and a nation. You create your "rules"
> > > based on your preconceived ideas and bias. The Navy Seals, CIA and all
> > > of
> > > those involved can make a good decision. Acting swiftly was the right
> > > thing
> > > to do. All we will do on this is argue.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Papa... You know what ??? It is acceptable if you treat a criminal
> > like a criminal. Would the cops avoid arresting a violent criminal on
> > a sunday if he were christian ??? of course not.
>
> > and further more...
>
> > on one hand, you profess your gleaming confidence in the nations
> > institutions and agencies. follow their infallible lead, shall we ???
> > they have it all in hand ??? we don't break from our accepted
> > standards. not us. never. water boarding and arrests/detention
> > without legal representation ??? ionizing radiation used on civilians
> > by people that are not trained medical professionals. the only one
> > that sounds like an idiot is you. I'm glad you are not running
> > things. people would wind up in the gulag for questioning
> > government.
>
> > what was it you said ??? " If someone robs you, mugs you, should you
> > go outside and do the same to someone else?"
>
> > don't lecture me. you sound like a simple flag waving moron. do some
> > real scholarly research and clue yourself in on what got us in all
> > this business to begin with. really... give you brain a chance, man.
>
> > Damn man....freakin read what you wrote...your logic was NOT about
> > criminals...of course you treat a criminal like a criminal....don't be so
> > stupid and arrogant.....I NEVER said anything like that nor did anyone
> > else
> > who can recognize intelligent decisions. Scholarly research????? Where is
> > it written that the USA should drop all of it's values based on who did
> > what? You argue in circles.....NO all of the things done wrong do not make
> > another thing done wrong right. I'm through even trying to talk to you.-
> > Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Papa...
>
> My points are all mixed up here... I am actually not trying to be
> offensive...  let me get my stuff straightened out for you so you can
> see what I'm trying to say...
>
> I agree 100 % with you that as Americans, we should act like good guys
> and not a bunch of Nazi stooges.  Once you lose your moral compass and
> trample on the law, you don't have anything left to preserve.  I can't
> stress enough that I agree with you 100 %!!!!
>
> Here is where I got you confused.  I would of course also agree with
> you that the Osama corps not be disrespected, but I made it look like
> I could care less about what was done.  The "ends justify the means"
> garbage.
>
> Then... I detailed a number of unsavory things that were done by the
> government in the interest of fighting terror.  The Patriot Act,
> ionizing radiation, torture not limited to water boarding... torture
> for heck sake, detention without legal process, surreptitious
> targeting of heads of state... I think recently we just participated
> in the killing of some civilians trying to blow up momar....
>
> And... You want to tell me that the same government and agencies that
> did all that above actually care about the corps of public enemy
> number one???
>
> Given what I have written about, you could come to the conclusion that
> the only reason they got rid of the body quickly was to hide
> something.   Like perhaps it has really been on ice for the past ten
> years.  Live bad guys make good reasons to spend and promote wars much
> better then dead bad guys.
>
> Now that Osama is dead, I guess all our guys come home and the patriot
> act and the x-ray Nazis will be a thing of the past no??? Mmm Hmmm...
>
> I'm not saying I go along with that stuff... Just making a point.
>
> Again... I'm not trying to be a dick head.  Just looking at things
> from all angles
>
> You are a product of what the media does today....tries to find all kinds of
> angles instead of looking at any facts presented.  I'm sure some video will
> come out of the events unfolding...as for the body on ice for any
> period....not when Bush was President it wasn't.....all of these
> "conspiracies" can be made far less real if we look at facts and not let our
> imaginations run wild.  War is not nice...bad stuff happens...you can not
> let guys do this kind of activity and act like choir boys...it just isn't
> realistic...but I see no reason to believe this is other than what is being
> presented.  The compound appears around 2005...right around the time the
> previous administration decided finding him was a low priority....looks like
> the bad guys felt a little safer...and it looks like our duplicitous ally is
> just that....playing both sides of the aisle.  When you say stuff on the
> internet...it looks like you are backing those ideas.  I'm glad they got rid
> of the body....can you imagine the instant shrine his grave would have
> created?  Who would want that in their country?  Let his followers go follow
> him now...let them go sleep with the fishes and into the jaws of
> sharks...I'll loan them the money for the rafts to go out there.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

No offense... But I still think it would have been better for the sake
of "closure" if they let the world close the lid on his casket instead
of the way it was done. How long did IL Duce' hang around by his
feet ??? They could have gone along with his burial rights and STILL
allowed for independent forensic inspection of the body and subsequent
burial at sea. As far as the idea that there is no shrine to him now
that his followers can pay homage to.. Forget about that. You cant
kill an idea. I'm not a conspiracy kook nor do I have blind faith in
government.


== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, May 3 2011 10:24 am
From: Tutor


On May 2, 1:50 pm, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On May 2, 1:45 pm, cloud dreamer <S...@Resources.now> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 02/05/2011 3:12 PM, Michael wrote:
>
> > > On May 2, 11:24 am, HVAC<mr.h...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> > >> Right next to Megatron.
>
> > >> And we know how that worked out for HIM.
>
> > >> --
> > >> "OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo
>
> > > why where the so quick to dispose of the body ???
>
> > > Now Osama is in hiding with Hitler, Elvis and Jim Morrison
>
> > Islamic burial requirements say he has to be buried within 24 hours.
> > Defying that risked upsetting more people than the fact that they killed
> > him at all.
>
> > They tried to give the body to Saudi Arabia but they refused. Burying it
> > in Pakistan was out of the question, so he got an Islamic funeral and
> > burial at sea.
>
> >http://cheezburger.com/View/4715946752
>
> >   ..
>
> > --
> > We must change the way we live
> >    Or the climate will do it for us
>
> that is an excellent reason to burry him at sea, but I assure you, the
> conspiracy mongers wont ever let go of this one.  The "9-11 truth"
> movement is not trivial and this fast disposal of the body is going to
> be their holy grail.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

As I read this, our very own Johnny M. is no doubt putting his
conspiracy thoughts together. :)


== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, May 3 2011 12:38 pm
From: Michael


On May 3, 10:41 am, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> news:e6be6e03-5cc4-4ddc-9815-76787bc5fec9@q20g2000vbx.googlegroups.com...
> On May 2, 10:49 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:61759c81-2975-453e-9e1e-852b24b54e5b@j28g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
> > On May 2, 7:56 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> > >news:671c3483-385a-47e8-b96e-e91643c087dd@e21g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
> > > On May 2, 4:33 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> > > >news:c9960b31-ab68-42af-ab59-7ae005776316@d12g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
> > > > On May 2, 3:00 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> > > > >news:ede6764b-c9e3-4b28-ab40-0e1eb090593d@d12g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > On May 2, 1:45 pm, cloud dreamer <S...@Resources.now> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On 02/05/2011 3:12 PM, Michael wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On May 2, 11:24 am, HVAC<mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >> Right next to Megatron.
>
> > > > > > >> And we know how that worked out for HIM.
>
> > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > >> "OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit
> > > > > > >> Girlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo
>
> > > > > > > why where the so quick to dispose of the body ???
>
> > > > > > > Now Osama is in hiding with Hitler, Elvis and Jim Morrison
>
> > > > > > Islamic burial requirements say he has to be buried within 24
> > > > > > hours.
> > > > > > Defying that risked upsetting more people than the fact that they
> > > > > > killed
> > > > > > him at all.
>
> > > > > > They tried to give the body to Saudi Arabia but they refused.
> > > > > > Burying
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > in Pakistan was out of the question, so he got an Islamic funeral
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > burial at sea.
>
> > > > > >http://cheezburger.com/View/4715946752
>
> > > > > > ..
>
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > We must change the way we live
> > > > > > Or the climate will do it for us
>
> > > > > that is an excellent reason to burry him at sea, but I assure you,
> > > > > the
> > > > > conspiracy mongers wont ever let go of this one. The "9-11 truth"
> > > > > movement is not trivial and this fast disposal of the body is going
> > > > > to
> > > > > be their holy grail.
>
> > > > > So how would burying a criminal who was a Jew be treated? It's the
> > > > > same
> > > > > burial law....and to not go with it would only serve to alienate a
> > > > > huge
> > > > > number of people...I am aware some don't care about that issue at
> > > > > all
> > > > > and
> > > > > even welcome it...to me, that is pure stupidity and suicide in the
> > > > > end.
> > > > > This was a good decision that had to be made quickly. If he were
> > > > > burried
> > > > > anywhere identifiable it would be an endless stream of idiots trying
> > > > > to
> > > > > dig
> > > > > him up and some would seize it to make him a hero...he's shark food
> > > > > now...good use for him.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > i'm not in dispute of what you have written above... those are all
> > > > excellent points. but then again, i can argue against it too. i
> > > > had a feeling that when he was found... if ever... the body would not
> > > > be around for more than a few short hours.
>
> > > > always good to keep in mind, papa... how long did they keep the bodies
> > > > of saddam's two sons on ice ??? both muslim too. plenty of time and
> > > > oppertunity to get a good look at them was afforded... it was, as the
> > > > article points out... a "damned if you do and damned if you dont"
> > > > affair... most of the people involved in making the decision felt that
> > > > it was important beyond all else to give the media and private sources
> > > > adequate time to view/inspect the bodies. before burrial
>
> > > > Both secular Muslims....not alligned with any religous activists.....
>
> > > Oh... But the real fundamentalists like Osama and his pals were REAL
> > > considerate to make sure the people at the WTC, Pentagon and on the
> > > aircrafts they hijackd got a proper and traditional burrial. IMHO,
> > > given the nature of the crime and the criminal, there should have
> > > been COMPREHENSIVE independent forensic testing of the body to ensure
> > > that it was bin Laden, and his death occurred as reported.
>
> > > WTF are you talking about? You sound like an idiot...so if a terrorist
> > > attacks we should become terrorists...that is your logic. If someone
> > > robs
> > > you, mugs you, should you go outside and do the same to someone else?
> > > Or,
> > > do we have standards as a culture and a nation. You create your "rules"
> > > based on your preconceived ideas and bias. The Navy Seals, CIA and all
> > > of
> > > those involved can make a good decision. Acting swiftly was the right
> > > thing
> > > to do. All we will do on this is argue.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Papa... You know what ??? It is acceptable if you treat a criminal
> > like a criminal. Would the cops avoid arresting a violent criminal on
> > a sunday if he were christian ??? of course not.
>
> > and further more...
>
> > on one hand, you profess your gleaming confidence in the nations
> > institutions and agencies. follow their infallible lead, shall we ???
> > they have it all in hand ??? we don't break from our accepted
> > standards. not us. never. water boarding and arrests/detention
> > without legal representation ??? ionizing radiation used on civilians
> > by people that are not trained medical professionals. the only one
> > that sounds like an idiot is you. I'm glad you are not running
> > things. people would wind up in the gulag for questioning
> > government.
>
> > what was it you said ??? " If someone robs you, mugs you, should you
> > go outside and do the same to someone else?"
>
> > don't lecture me. you sound like a simple flag waving moron. do some
> > real scholarly research and clue yourself in on what got us in all
> > this business to begin with. really... give you brain a chance, man.
>
> > Damn man....freakin read what you wrote...your logic was NOT about
> > criminals...of course you treat a criminal like a criminal....don't be so
> > stupid and arrogant.....I NEVER said anything like that nor did anyone
> > else
> > who can recognize intelligent decisions. Scholarly research????? Where is
> > it written that the USA should drop all of it's values based on who did
> > what? You argue in circles.....NO all of the things done wrong do not make
> > another thing done wrong right. I'm through even trying to talk to you.-
> > Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Papa...
>
> My points are all mixed up here... I am actually not trying to be
> offensive...  let me get my stuff straightened out for you so you can
> see what I'm trying to say...
>
> I agree 100 % with you that as Americans, we should act like good guys
> and not a bunch of Nazi stooges.  Once you lose your moral compass and
> trample on the law, you don't have anything left to preserve.  I can't
> stress enough that I agree with you 100 %!!!!
>
> Here is where I got you confused.  I would of course also agree with
> you that the Osama corps not be disrespected, but I made it look like
> I could care less about what was done.  The "ends justify the means"
> garbage.
>
> Then... I detailed a number of unsavory things that were done by the
> government in the interest of fighting terror.  The Patriot Act,
> ionizing radiation, torture not limited to water boarding... torture
> for heck sake, detention without legal process, surreptitious
> targeting of heads of state... I think recently we just participated
> in the killing of some civilians trying to blow up momar....
>
> And... You want to tell me that the same government and agencies that
> did all that above actually care about the corps of public enemy
> number one???
>
> Given what I have written about, you could come to the conclusion that
> the only reason they got rid of the body quickly was to hide
> something.   Like perhaps it has really been on ice for the past ten
> years.  Live bad guys make good reasons to spend and promote wars much
> better then dead bad guys.
>
> Now that Osama is dead, I guess all our guys come home and the patriot
> act and the x-ray Nazis will be a thing of the past no??? Mmm Hmmm...
>
> I'm not saying I go along with that stuff... Just making a point.
>
> Again... I'm not trying to be a dick head.  Just looking at things
> from all angles
>
> You are a product of what the media does today....tries to find all kinds of
> angles instead of looking at any facts presented.  I'm sure some video will
> come out of the events unfolding...as for the body on ice for any
> period....not when Bush was President it wasn't.....all of these
> "conspiracies" can be made far less real if we look at facts and not let our
> imaginations run wild.  War is not nice...bad stuff happens...you can not
> let guys do this kind of activity and act like choir boys...it just isn't
> realistic...

Of course, you would not be a product of the mass media too, now would
you ??? Only uninformed fools like me ???

I wanted to add a specific comment here. On one hand, you say we
needed to treat the dead body with all due respect. On the other
hand, you say that while we are wrapped up in all this terrorist
business... which you label as "war", you cant act like a bunch of
choir boys. That is a tremendous contradiction. IMHO, as far as
closing the lid on the coffin, it was MOST important to let the world
in on it. Not spirit the body away. Remember, Papa... in war, you
cant always act like a bunch of choir boys where blue chip political
and military issues are concerned. ESPECIALL not in the way that the
9-11 mastermind was wrapped up. And I'll remind you again... They
body could have been examined by independant sources while still
maintaing what was perscribed by his religion.


== 6 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, May 3 2011 1:13 pm
From: "Papa Carl"

"Michael" <mjd1966@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:ab2f1867-8e7d-4345-a6de-ffa28197cef5@a10g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
On May 3, 10:41 am, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> news:e6be6e03-5cc4-4ddc-9815-76787bc5fec9@q20g2000vbx.googlegroups.com...
> On May 2, 10:49 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:61759c81-2975-453e-9e1e-852b24b54e5b@j28g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
> > On May 2, 7:56 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> > >news:671c3483-385a-47e8-b96e-e91643c087dd@e21g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
> > > On May 2, 4:33 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> > > >news:c9960b31-ab68-42af-ab59-7ae005776316@d12g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
> > > > On May 2, 3:00 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> > > > >news:ede6764b-c9e3-4b28-ab40-0e1eb090593d@d12g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > On May 2, 1:45 pm, cloud dreamer <S...@Resources.now> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On 02/05/2011 3:12 PM, Michael wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On May 2, 11:24 am, HVAC<mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >> Right next to Megatron.
>
> > > > > > >> And we know how that worked out for HIM.
>
> > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > >> "OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit
> > > > > > >> Girlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo
>
> > > > > > > why where the so quick to dispose of the body ???
>
> > > > > > > Now Osama is in hiding with Hitler, Elvis and Jim Morrison
>
> > > > > > Islamic burial requirements say he has to be buried within 24
> > > > > > hours.
> > > > > > Defying that risked upsetting more people than the fact that
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > killed
> > > > > > him at all.
>
> > > > > > They tried to give the body to Saudi Arabia but they refused.
> > > > > > Burying
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > in Pakistan was out of the question, so he got an Islamic
> > > > > > funeral
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > burial at sea.
>
> > > > > >http://cheezburger.com/View/4715946752
>
> > > > > > ..
>
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > We must change the way we live
> > > > > > Or the climate will do it for us
>
> > > > > that is an excellent reason to burry him at sea, but I assure you,
> > > > > the
> > > > > conspiracy mongers wont ever let go of this one. The "9-11 truth"
> > > > > movement is not trivial and this fast disposal of the body is
> > > > > going
> > > > > to
> > > > > be their holy grail.
>
> > > > > So how would burying a criminal who was a Jew be treated? It's the
> > > > > same
> > > > > burial law....and to not go with it would only serve to alienate a
> > > > > huge
> > > > > number of people...I am aware some don't care about that issue at
> > > > > all
> > > > > and
> > > > > even welcome it...to me, that is pure stupidity and suicide in the
> > > > > end.
> > > > > This was a good decision that had to be made quickly. If he were
> > > > > burried
> > > > > anywhere identifiable it would be an endless stream of idiots
> > > > > trying
> > > > > to
> > > > > dig
> > > > > him up and some would seize it to make him a hero...he's shark
> > > > > food
> > > > > now...good use for him.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > i'm not in dispute of what you have written above... those are all
> > > > excellent points. but then again, i can argue against it too. i
> > > > had a feeling that when he was found... if ever... the body would
> > > > not
> > > > be around for more than a few short hours.
>
> > > > always good to keep in mind, papa... how long did they keep the
> > > > bodies
> > > > of saddam's two sons on ice ??? both muslim too. plenty of time and
> > > > oppertunity to get a good look at them was afforded... it was, as
> > > > the
> > > > article points out... a "damned if you do and damned if you dont"
> > > > affair... most of the people involved in making the decision felt
> > > > that
> > > > it was important beyond all else to give the media and private
> > > > sources
> > > > adequate time to view/inspect the bodies. before burrial
>
> > > > Both secular Muslims....not alligned with any religous
> > > > activists.....
>
> > > Oh... But the real fundamentalists like Osama and his pals were REAL
> > > considerate to make sure the people at the WTC, Pentagon and on the
> > > aircrafts they hijackd got a proper and traditional burrial. IMHO,
> > > given the nature of the crime and the criminal, there should have
> > > been COMPREHENSIVE independent forensic testing of the body to ensure
> > > that it was bin Laden, and his death occurred as reported.
>
> > > WTF are you talking about? You sound like an idiot...so if a terrorist
> > > attacks we should become terrorists...that is your logic. If someone
> > > robs
> > > you, mugs you, should you go outside and do the same to someone else?
> > > Or,
> > > do we have standards as a culture and a nation. You create your
> > > "rules"
> > > based on your preconceived ideas and bias. The Navy Seals, CIA and all
> > > of
> > > those involved can make a good decision. Acting swiftly was the right
> > > thing
> > > to do. All we will do on this is argue.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Papa... You know what ??? It is acceptable if you treat a criminal
> > like a criminal. Would the cops avoid arresting a violent criminal on
> > a sunday if he were christian ??? of course not.
>
> > and further more...
>
> > on one hand, you profess your gleaming confidence in the nations
> > institutions and agencies. follow their infallible lead, shall we ???
> > they have it all in hand ??? we don't break from our accepted
> > standards. not us. never. water boarding and arrests/detention
> > without legal representation ??? ionizing radiation used on civilians
> > by people that are not trained medical professionals. the only one
> > that sounds like an idiot is you. I'm glad you are not running
> > things. people would wind up in the gulag for questioning
> > government.
>
> > what was it you said ??? " If someone robs you, mugs you, should you
> > go outside and do the same to someone else?"
>
> > don't lecture me. you sound like a simple flag waving moron. do some
> > real scholarly research and clue yourself in on what got us in all
> > this business to begin with. really... give you brain a chance, man.
>
> > Damn man....freakin read what you wrote...your logic was NOT about
> > criminals...of course you treat a criminal like a criminal....don't be
> > so
> > stupid and arrogant.....I NEVER said anything like that nor did anyone
> > else
> > who can recognize intelligent decisions. Scholarly research????? Where
> > is
> > it written that the USA should drop all of it's values based on who did
> > what? You argue in circles.....NO all of the things done wrong do not
> > make
> > another thing done wrong right. I'm through even trying to talk to you.-
> > Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Papa...
>
> My points are all mixed up here... I am actually not trying to be
> offensive... let me get my stuff straightened out for you so you can
> see what I'm trying to say...
>
> I agree 100 % with you that as Americans, we should act like good guys
> and not a bunch of Nazi stooges. Once you lose your moral compass and
> trample on the law, you don't have anything left to preserve. I can't
> stress enough that I agree with you 100 %!!!!
>
> Here is where I got you confused. I would of course also agree with
> you that the Osama corps not be disrespected, but I made it look like
> I could care less about what was done. The "ends justify the means"
> garbage.
>
> Then... I detailed a number of unsavory things that were done by the
> government in the interest of fighting terror. The Patriot Act,
> ionizing radiation, torture not limited to water boarding... torture
> for heck sake, detention without legal process, surreptitious
> targeting of heads of state... I think recently we just participated
> in the killing of some civilians trying to blow up momar....
>
> And... You want to tell me that the same government and agencies that
> did all that above actually care about the corps of public enemy
> number one???
>
> Given what I have written about, you could come to the conclusion that
> the only reason they got rid of the body quickly was to hide
> something. Like perhaps it has really been on ice for the past ten
> years. Live bad guys make good reasons to spend and promote wars much
> better then dead bad guys.
>
> Now that Osama is dead, I guess all our guys come home and the patriot
> act and the x-ray Nazis will be a thing of the past no??? Mmm Hmmm...
>
> I'm not saying I go along with that stuff... Just making a point.
>
> Again... I'm not trying to be a dick head. Just looking at things
> from all angles
>
> You are a product of what the media does today....tries to find all kinds
> of
> angles instead of looking at any facts presented. I'm sure some video will
> come out of the events unfolding...as for the body on ice for any
> period....not when Bush was President it wasn't.....all of these
> "conspiracies" can be made far less real if we look at facts and not let
> our
> imaginations run wild. War is not nice...bad stuff happens...you can not
> let guys do this kind of activity and act like choir boys...it just isn't
> realistic...but I see no reason to believe this is other than what is
> being
> presented. The compound appears around 2005...right around the time the
> previous administration decided finding him was a low priority....looks
> like
> the bad guys felt a little safer...and it looks like our duplicitous ally
> is
> just that....playing both sides of the aisle. When you say stuff on the
> internet...it looks like you are backing those ideas. I'm glad they got
> rid
> of the body....can you imagine the instant shrine his grave would have
> created? Who would want that in their country? Let his followers go follow
> him now...let them go sleep with the fishes and into the jaws of
> sharks...I'll loan them the money for the rafts to go out there.- Hide
> quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

No offense... But I still think it would have been better for the sake
of "closure" if they let the world close the lid on his casket instead
of the way it was done. How long did IL Duce' hang around by his
feet ??? They could have gone along with his burial rights and STILL
allowed for independent forensic inspection of the body and subsequent
burial at sea. As far as the idea that there is no shrine to him now
that his followers can pay homage to.. Forget about that. You cant
kill an idea. I'm not a conspiracy kook nor do I have blind faith in
government.

Musolini was killed by his own people. This operation was carried out in a
country whose alliance with our cause is questionable. What was done was
proper and the right thing to do on many fronts. It was an attempt to
satisfy some of the requirements of Muslim law (which is the same as Jewish
law on this issue) and it got the body and the task force out of the country
quickly. No other country wanted to take the body and even if one would it
would only create yet more problems and a shrine for the followers. I fail
to see how any other approach would ultimately have been better. AND...the
major point is, they found him and they caught him....how did that work out
with all the gung ho guys before?


== 7 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, May 3 2011 1:16 pm
From: "Papa Carl"

"Michael" <mjd1966@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:b2eda04b-e600-46ea-b625-977fbae04c32@e26g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
On May 3, 10:41 am, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> news:e6be6e03-5cc4-4ddc-9815-76787bc5fec9@q20g2000vbx.googlegroups.com...
> On May 2, 10:49 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:61759c81-2975-453e-9e1e-852b24b54e5b@j28g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
> > On May 2, 7:56 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> > >news:671c3483-385a-47e8-b96e-e91643c087dd@e21g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
> > > On May 2, 4:33 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> > > >news:c9960b31-ab68-42af-ab59-7ae005776316@d12g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
> > > > On May 2, 3:00 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> > > > >news:ede6764b-c9e3-4b28-ab40-0e1eb090593d@d12g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > On May 2, 1:45 pm, cloud dreamer <S...@Resources.now> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On 02/05/2011 3:12 PM, Michael wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On May 2, 11:24 am, HVAC<mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >> Right next to Megatron.
>
> > > > > > >> And we know how that worked out for HIM.
>
> > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > >> "OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit
> > > > > > >> Girlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo
>
> > > > > > > why where the so quick to dispose of the body ???
>
> > > > > > > Now Osama is in hiding with Hitler, Elvis and Jim Morrison
>
> > > > > > Islamic burial requirements say he has to be buried within 24
> > > > > > hours.
> > > > > > Defying that risked upsetting more people than the fact that
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > killed
> > > > > > him at all.
>
> > > > > > They tried to give the body to Saudi Arabia but they refused.
> > > > > > Burying
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > in Pakistan was out of the question, so he got an Islamic
> > > > > > funeral
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > burial at sea.
>
> > > > > >http://cheezburger.com/View/4715946752
>
> > > > > > ..
>
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > We must change the way we live
> > > > > > Or the climate will do it for us
>
> > > > > that is an excellent reason to burry him at sea, but I assure you,
> > > > > the
> > > > > conspiracy mongers wont ever let go of this one. The "9-11 truth"
> > > > > movement is not trivial and this fast disposal of the body is
> > > > > going
> > > > > to
> > > > > be their holy grail.
>
> > > > > So how would burying a criminal who was a Jew be treated? It's the
> > > > > same
> > > > > burial law....and to not go with it would only serve to alienate a
> > > > > huge
> > > > > number of people...I am aware some don't care about that issue at
> > > > > all
> > > > > and
> > > > > even welcome it...to me, that is pure stupidity and suicide in the
> > > > > end.
> > > > > This was a good decision that had to be made quickly. If he were
> > > > > burried
> > > > > anywhere identifiable it would be an endless stream of idiots
> > > > > trying
> > > > > to
> > > > > dig
> > > > > him up and some would seize it to make him a hero...he's shark
> > > > > food
> > > > > now...good use for him.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > i'm not in dispute of what you have written above... those are all
> > > > excellent points. but then again, i can argue against it too. i
> > > > had a feeling that when he was found... if ever... the body would
> > > > not
> > > > be around for more than a few short hours.
>
> > > > always good to keep in mind, papa... how long did they keep the
> > > > bodies
> > > > of saddam's two sons on ice ??? both muslim too. plenty of time and
> > > > oppertunity to get a good look at them was afforded... it was, as
> > > > the
> > > > article points out... a "damned if you do and damned if you dont"
> > > > affair... most of the people involved in making the decision felt
> > > > that
> > > > it was important beyond all else to give the media and private
> > > > sources
> > > > adequate time to view/inspect the bodies. before burrial
>
> > > > Both secular Muslims....not alligned with any religous
> > > > activists.....
>
> > > Oh... But the real fundamentalists like Osama and his pals were REAL
> > > considerate to make sure the people at the WTC, Pentagon and on the
> > > aircrafts they hijackd got a proper and traditional burrial. IMHO,
> > > given the nature of the crime and the criminal, there should have
> > > been COMPREHENSIVE independent forensic testing of the body to ensure
> > > that it was bin Laden, and his death occurred as reported.
>
> > > WTF are you talking about? You sound like an idiot...so if a terrorist
> > > attacks we should become terrorists...that is your logic. If someone
> > > robs
> > > you, mugs you, should you go outside and do the same to someone else?
> > > Or,
> > > do we have standards as a culture and a nation. You create your
> > > "rules"
> > > based on your preconceived ideas and bias. The Navy Seals, CIA and all
> > > of
> > > those involved can make a good decision. Acting swiftly was the right
> > > thing
> > > to do. All we will do on this is argue.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Papa... You know what ??? It is acceptable if you treat a criminal
> > like a criminal. Would the cops avoid arresting a violent criminal on
> > a sunday if he were christian ??? of course not.
>
> > and further more...
>
> > on one hand, you profess your gleaming confidence in the nations
> > institutions and agencies. follow their infallible lead, shall we ???
> > they have it all in hand ??? we don't break from our accepted
> > standards. not us. never. water boarding and arrests/detention
> > without legal representation ??? ionizing radiation used on civilians
> > by people that are not trained medical professionals. the only one
> > that sounds like an idiot is you. I'm glad you are not running
> > things. people would wind up in the gulag for questioning
> > government.
>
> > what was it you said ??? " If someone robs you, mugs you, should you
> > go outside and do the same to someone else?"
>
> > don't lecture me. you sound like a simple flag waving moron. do some
> > real scholarly research and clue yourself in on what got us in all
> > this business to begin with. really... give you brain a chance, man.
>
> > Damn man....freakin read what you wrote...your logic was NOT about
> > criminals...of course you treat a criminal like a criminal....don't be
> > so
> > stupid and arrogant.....I NEVER said anything like that nor did anyone
> > else
> > who can recognize intelligent decisions. Scholarly research????? Where
> > is
> > it written that the USA should drop all of it's values based on who did
> > what? You argue in circles.....NO all of the things done wrong do not
> > make
> > another thing done wrong right. I'm through even trying to talk to you.-
> > Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Papa...
>
> My points are all mixed up here... I am actually not trying to be
> offensive... let me get my stuff straightened out for you so you can
> see what I'm trying to say...
>
> I agree 100 % with you that as Americans, we should act like good guys
> and not a bunch of Nazi stooges. Once you lose your moral compass and
> trample on the law, you don't have anything left to preserve. I can't
> stress enough that I agree with you 100 %!!!!
>
> Here is where I got you confused. I would of course also agree with
> you that the Osama corps not be disrespected, but I made it look like
> I could care less about what was done. The "ends justify the means"
> garbage.
>
> Then... I detailed a number of unsavory things that were done by the
> government in the interest of fighting terror. The Patriot Act,
> ionizing radiation, torture not limited to water boarding... torture
> for heck sake, detention without legal process, surreptitious
> targeting of heads of state... I think recently we just participated
> in the killing of some civilians trying to blow up momar....
>
> And... You want to tell me that the same government and agencies that
> did all that above actually care about the corps of public enemy
> number one???
>
> Given what I have written about, you could come to the conclusion that
> the only reason they got rid of the body quickly was to hide
> something. Like perhaps it has really been on ice for the past ten
> years. Live bad guys make good reasons to spend and promote wars much
> better then dead bad guys.
>
> Now that Osama is dead, I guess all our guys come home and the patriot
> act and the x-ray Nazis will be a thing of the past no??? Mmm Hmmm...
>
> I'm not saying I go along with that stuff... Just making a point.
>
> Again... I'm not trying to be a dick head. Just looking at things
> from all angles
>
> You are a product of what the media does today....tries to find all kinds
> of
> angles instead of looking at any facts presented. I'm sure some video will
> come out of the events unfolding...as for the body on ice for any
> period....not when Bush was President it wasn't.....all of these
> "conspiracies" can be made far less real if we look at facts and not let
> our
> imaginations run wild. War is not nice...bad stuff happens...you can not
> let guys do this kind of activity and act like choir boys...it just isn't
> realistic...

Of course, you would not be a product of the mass media too, now would
you ??? Only uninformed fools like me ???

I wanted to add a specific comment here. On one hand, you say we
needed to treat the dead body with all due respect. On the other
hand, you say that while we are wrapped up in all this terrorist
business... which you label as "war", you cant act like a bunch of
choir boys. That is a tremendous contradiction. IMHO, as far as
closing the lid on the coffin, it was MOST important to let the world
in on it. Not spirit the body away. Remember, Papa... in war, you
cant always act like a bunch of choir boys where blue chip political
and military issues are concerned. ESPECIALL not in the way that the
9-11 mastermind was wrapped up. And I'll remind you again... They
body could have been examined by independant sources while still
maintaing what was perscribed by his religion.

You are just as reactive as Fox news is too....we are all products of this
new phenomena...I'm a Hell of a lot older than you and it is much easier for
an old person to not react as much. So...to appease your needs and wishes
you would put a lot more people at risk...and create even more chaos? But
it would make you happy I guess so it would be ok? I don't really think too
much of it was about religion...they disposed of a body nobody wanted to
take...and there is no physical shrine for him now either.

== 8 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, May 3 2011 1:29 pm
From: Michael


On May 3, 4:16 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> news:b2eda04b-e600-46ea-b625-977fbae04c32@e26g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
> On May 3, 10:41 am, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:e6be6e03-5cc4-4ddc-9815-76787bc5fec9@q20g2000vbx.googlegroups.com...
> > On May 2, 10:49 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> > >news:61759c81-2975-453e-9e1e-852b24b54e5b@j28g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
> > > On May 2, 7:56 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> > > >news:671c3483-385a-47e8-b96e-e91643c087dd@e21g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
> > > > On May 2, 4:33 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> > > > >news:c9960b31-ab68-42af-ab59-7ae005776316@d12g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > On May 2, 3:00 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> > > > > >news:ede6764b-c9e3-4b28-ab40-0e1eb090593d@d12g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > > On May 2, 1:45 pm, cloud dreamer <S...@Resources.now> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On 02/05/2011 3:12 PM, Michael wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On May 2, 11:24 am, HVAC<mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> Right next to Megatron.
>
> > > > > > > >> And we know how that worked out for HIM.
>
> > > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > > >> "OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit
> > > > > > > >> Girlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo
>
> > > > > > > > why where the so quick to dispose of the body ???
>
> > > > > > > > Now Osama is in hiding with Hitler, Elvis and Jim Morrison
>
> > > > > > > Islamic burial requirements say he has to be buried within 24
> > > > > > > hours.
> > > > > > > Defying that risked upsetting more people than the fact that
> > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > killed
> > > > > > > him at all.
>
> > > > > > > They tried to give the body to Saudi Arabia but they refused.
> > > > > > > Burying
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > in Pakistan was out of the question, so he got an Islamic
> > > > > > > funeral
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > burial at sea.
>
> > > > > > >http://cheezburger.com/View/4715946752
>
> > > > > > > ..
>
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > We must change the way we live
> > > > > > > Or the climate will do it for us
>
> > > > > > that is an excellent reason to burry him at sea, but I assure you,
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > conspiracy mongers wont ever let go of this one. The "9-11 truth"
> > > > > > movement is not trivial and this fast disposal of the body is
> > > > > > going
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > be their holy grail.
>
> > > > > > So how would burying a criminal who was a Jew be treated? It's the
> > > > > > same
> > > > > > burial law....and to not go with it would only serve to alienate a
> > > > > > huge
> > > > > > number of people...I am aware some don't care about that issue at
> > > > > > all
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > even welcome it...to me, that is pure stupidity and suicide in the
> > > > > > end.
> > > > > > This was a good decision that had to be made quickly. If he were
> > > > > > burried
> > > > > > anywhere identifiable it would be an endless stream of idiots
> > > > > > trying
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > dig
> > > > > > him up and some would seize it to make him a hero...he's shark
> > > > > > food
> > > > > > now...good use for him.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > > i'm not in dispute of what you have written above... those are all
> > > > > excellent points. but then again, i can argue against it too. i
> > > > > had a feeling that when he was found... if ever... the body would
> > > > > not
> > > > > be around for more than a few short hours.
>
> > > > > always good to keep in mind, papa... how long did they keep the
> > > > > bodies
> > > > > of saddam's two sons on ice ??? both muslim too. plenty of time and
> > > > > oppertunity to get a good look at them was afforded... it was, as
> > > > > the
> > > > > article points out... a "damned if you do and damned if you dont"
> > > > > affair... most of the people involved in making the decision felt
> > > > > that
> > > > > it was important beyond all else to give the media and private
> > > > > sources
> > > > > adequate time to view/inspect the bodies. before burrial
>
> > > > > Both secular Muslims....not alligned with any religous
> > > > > activists.....
>
> > > > Oh... But the real fundamentalists like Osama and his pals were REAL
> > > > considerate to make sure the people at the WTC, Pentagon and on the
> > > > aircrafts they hijackd got a proper and traditional burrial. IMHO,
> > > > given the nature of the crime and the criminal, there should have
> > > > been COMPREHENSIVE independent forensic testing of the body to ensure
> > > > that it was bin Laden, and his death occurred as reported.
>
> > > > WTF are you talking about? You sound like an idiot...so if a terrorist
> > > > attacks we should become terrorists...that is your logic. If someone
> > > > robs
> > > > you, mugs you, should you go outside and do the same to someone else?
> > > > Or,
> > > > do we have standards as a culture and a nation. You create your
> > > > "rules"
> > > > based on your preconceived ideas and bias. The Navy Seals, CIA and all
> > > > of
> > > > those involved can make a good decision. Acting swiftly was the right
> > > > thing
> > > > to do. All we will do on this is argue.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Papa... You know what ??? It is acceptable if you treat a criminal
> > > like a criminal. Would the cops avoid arresting a violent criminal on
> > > a sunday if he were christian ??? of course not.
>
> > > and further more...
>
> > > on one hand, you profess your gleaming confidence in the nations
> > > institutions and agencies. follow their infallible lead, shall we ???
> > > they have it all in hand ??? we don't break from our accepted
> > > standards. not us. never. water boarding and arrests/detention
> > > without legal representation ??? ionizing radiation used on civilians
> > > by people that are not trained medical professionals. the only one
> > > that sounds like an idiot is you. I'm glad you are not running
> > > things. people would wind up in the gulag for questioning
> > > government.
>
> > > what was it you said ??? " If someone robs you, mugs you, should you
> > > go outside and do the same to someone else?"
>
> > > don't lecture me. you sound like a simple flag waving moron. do some
> > > real scholarly research and clue yourself in on what got us in all
> > > this business to begin with. really... give you brain a chance, man.
>
> > > Damn man....freakin read what you wrote...your logic was NOT about
> > > criminals...of course you treat a criminal like a criminal....don't be
> > > so
> > > stupid and arrogant.....I NEVER said anything like that nor did anyone
> > > else
> > > who can recognize intelligent decisions. Scholarly research????? Where
> > > is
> > > it written that the USA should drop all of it's values based on who did
> > > what? You argue in circles.....NO all of the things done wrong do not
> > > make
> > > another thing done wrong right. I'm through even trying to talk to you.-
> > > Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Papa...
>
> > My points are all mixed up here... I am actually not trying to be
> > offensive... let me get my stuff straightened out for you so you can
> > see what I'm trying to say...
>
> > I agree 100 % with you that as Americans, we should act like good guys
> > and not a bunch of Nazi stooges. Once you lose your moral compass and
> > trample on the law, you don't have anything left to preserve. I can't
> > stress enough that I agree with you 100 %!!!!
>
> > Here is where I got you confused. I would of course also agree with
> > you that the Osama corps not be disrespected, but I made it look like
> > I could care less about what was done. The "ends justify the means"
> > garbage.
>
> > Then... I detailed a number of unsavory things that were done by the
> > government in the interest of fighting terror. The Patriot Act,
> > ionizing radiation, torture not limited to water boarding... torture
> > for heck sake, detention without legal process, surreptitious
> > targeting of heads of state... I think recently we just participated
> > in the killing of some civilians trying to blow up momar....
>
> > And... You want to tell me that the same government and agencies that
> > did all that above actually care about the corps of public enemy
> > number one???
>
> > Given what I have written about, you could come to the conclusion that
> > the only reason they got rid of the body quickly was to hide
> > something. Like perhaps it has really been on ice for the past ten
> > years. Live bad guys make good reasons to spend and promote wars much
> > better then dead bad guys.
>
> > Now that Osama is dead, I guess all our guys come home and the patriot
> > act and the x-ray Nazis will be a thing of the past no??? Mmm Hmmm...
>
> > I'm not saying I go along with that stuff... Just making a point.
>
> > Again... I'm not trying to be a dick head. Just looking at things
> > from all angles
>
> > You are a product of what the media does today....tries to find all kinds
> > of
> > angles instead of looking at any facts presented. I'm sure some video will
> > come out of the events unfolding...as for the body on ice for any
> > period....not when Bush was President it wasn't.....all of these
> > "conspiracies" can be made far less real if we look at facts and not let
> > our
> > imaginations run wild. War is not nice...bad stuff happens...you can not
> > let guys do this kind of activity and act like choir boys...it just isn't
> > realistic...
>
> Of course, you would not be a product of the mass media too, now would
> you ???  Only uninformed fools like me ???
>
> I wanted to add a specific comment here.  On one hand, you say we
> needed to treat the dead body with all due respect.  On the other
> hand, you say that while we are wrapped up in all this terrorist
> business... which you label as "war", you cant act like a bunch of
> choir boys.  That is a tremendous contradiction.  IMHO, as far as
> closing the lid on the coffin, it was MOST important to let the world
> in on it.  Not spirit the body away. Remember, Papa... in war, you
> cant always act like a bunch of choir boys where blue chip political
> and military issues are concerned.  ESPECIALL not in the way that the
> 9-11 mastermind was wrapped up.  And I'll remind you again... They
> body could have been examined by independant sources while still
> maintaing what was perscribed by his religion.
>
> You are just as reactive as Fox news is too....we are all products of this
> new phenomena...I'm a Hell of a lot older than you and it is much easier for
> an old person to not react as much.  So...to appease your needs and wishes
> you would put a lot more people at risk...and create even more chaos?  But
> it would make you happy I guess so it would be ok?  I don't really think too
> much of it was about religion...they disposed of a body nobody wanted to
> take...and there is no physical shrine for him now either.

I agree about not stirring up a hornets nest as far as not being
disrespectful to the body. again... i think the world needed to see
and be involved more. in that i suggest independent examination of
the body....by independent, I mean apart from the military and
government.

do you by any chance remember the jessica lynch affair ??? all the
actual details ??? always good to keep that sort of thing in mind.

== 9 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, May 3 2011 2:57 pm
From: "Papa Carl"

"Michael" <mjd1966@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:a2d5e1f8-cd0a-4535-b7cd-b8615e7ec067@e35g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
On May 3, 4:16 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> news:b2eda04b-e600-46ea-b625-977fbae04c32@e26g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
> On May 3, 10:41 am, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:e6be6e03-5cc4-4ddc-9815-76787bc5fec9@q20g2000vbx.googlegroups.com...
> > On May 2, 10:49 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> > >news:61759c81-2975-453e-9e1e-852b24b54e5b@j28g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
> > > On May 2, 7:56 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> > > >news:671c3483-385a-47e8-b96e-e91643c087dd@e21g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
> > > > On May 2, 4:33 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> > > > >news:c9960b31-ab68-42af-ab59-7ae005776316@d12g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > On May 2, 3:00 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> > > > > >news:ede6764b-c9e3-4b28-ab40-0e1eb090593d@d12g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > > On May 2, 1:45 pm, cloud dreamer <S...@Resources.now> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On 02/05/2011 3:12 PM, Michael wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On May 2, 11:24 am, HVAC<mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> Right next to Megatron.
>
> > > > > > > >> And we know how that worked out for HIM.
>
> > > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > > >> "OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit
> > > > > > > >> Girlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo
>
> > > > > > > > why where the so quick to dispose of the body ???
>
> > > > > > > > Now Osama is in hiding with Hitler, Elvis and Jim Morrison
>
> > > > > > > Islamic burial requirements say he has to be buried within 24
> > > > > > > hours.
> > > > > > > Defying that risked upsetting more people than the fact that
> > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > killed
> > > > > > > him at all.
>
> > > > > > > They tried to give the body to Saudi Arabia but they refused.
> > > > > > > Burying
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > in Pakistan was out of the question, so he got an Islamic
> > > > > > > funeral
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > burial at sea.
>
> > > > > > >http://cheezburger.com/View/4715946752
>
> > > > > > > ..
>
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > We must change the way we live
> > > > > > > Or the climate will do it for us
>
> > > > > > that is an excellent reason to burry him at sea, but I assure
> > > > > > you,
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > conspiracy mongers wont ever let go of this one. The "9-11
> > > > > > truth"
> > > > > > movement is not trivial and this fast disposal of the body is
> > > > > > going
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > be their holy grail.
>
> > > > > > So how would burying a criminal who was a Jew be treated? It's
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > same
> > > > > > burial law....and to not go with it would only serve to alienate
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > huge
> > > > > > number of people...I am aware some don't care about that issue
> > > > > > at
> > > > > > all
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > even welcome it...to me, that is pure stupidity and suicide in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > end.
> > > > > > This was a good decision that had to be made quickly. If he were
> > > > > > burried
> > > > > > anywhere identifiable it would be an endless stream of idiots
> > > > > > trying
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > dig
> > > > > > him up and some would seize it to make him a hero...he's shark
> > > > > > food
> > > > > > now...good use for him.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > > i'm not in dispute of what you have written above... those are all
> > > > > excellent points. but then again, i can argue against it too. i
> > > > > had a feeling that when he was found... if ever... the body would
> > > > > not
> > > > > be around for more than a few short hours.
>
> > > > > always good to keep in mind, papa... how long did they keep the
> > > > > bodies
> > > > > of saddam's two sons on ice ??? both muslim too. plenty of time
> > > > > and
> > > > > oppertunity to get a good look at them was afforded... it was, as
> > > > > the
> > > > > article points out... a "damned if you do and damned if you dont"
> > > > > affair... most of the people involved in making the decision felt
> > > > > that
> > > > > it was important beyond all else to give the media and private
> > > > > sources
> > > > > adequate time to view/inspect the bodies. before burrial
>
> > > > > Both secular Muslims....not alligned with any religous
> > > > > activists.....
>
> > > > Oh... But the real fundamentalists like Osama and his pals were REAL
> > > > considerate to make sure the people at the WTC, Pentagon and on the
> > > > aircrafts they hijackd got a proper and traditional burrial. IMHO,
> > > > given the nature of the crime and the criminal, there should have
> > > > been COMPREHENSIVE independent forensic testing of the body to
> > > > ensure
> > > > that it was bin Laden, and his death occurred as reported.
>
> > > > WTF are you talking about? You sound like an idiot...so if a
> > > > terrorist
> > > > attacks we should become terrorists...that is your logic. If someone
> > > > robs
> > > > you, mugs you, should you go outside and do the same to someone
> > > > else?
> > > > Or,
> > > > do we have standards as a culture and a nation. You create your
> > > > "rules"
> > > > based on your preconceived ideas and bias. The Navy Seals, CIA and
> > > > all
> > > > of
> > > > those involved can make a good decision. Acting swiftly was the
> > > > right
> > > > thing
> > > > to do. All we will do on this is argue.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Papa... You know what ??? It is acceptable if you treat a criminal
> > > like a criminal. Would the cops avoid arresting a violent criminal on
> > > a sunday if he were christian ??? of course not.
>
> > > and further more...
>
> > > on one hand, you profess your gleaming confidence in the nations
> > > institutions and agencies. follow their infallible lead, shall we ???
> > > they have it all in hand ??? we don't break from our accepted
> > > standards. not us. never. water boarding and arrests/detention
> > > without legal representation ??? ionizing radiation used on civilians
> > > by people that are not trained medical professionals. the only one
> > > that sounds like an idiot is you. I'm glad you are not running
> > > things. people would wind up in the gulag for questioning
> > > government.
>
> > > what was it you said ??? " If someone robs you, mugs you, should you
> > > go outside and do the same to someone else?"
>
> > > don't lecture me. you sound like a simple flag waving moron. do some
> > > real scholarly research and clue yourself in on what got us in all
> > > this business to begin with. really... give you brain a chance, man.
>
> > > Damn man....freakin read what you wrote...your logic was NOT about
> > > criminals...of course you treat a criminal like a criminal....don't be
> > > so
> > > stupid and arrogant.....I NEVER said anything like that nor did anyone
> > > else
> > > who can recognize intelligent decisions. Scholarly research????? Where
> > > is
> > > it written that the USA should drop all of it's values based on who
> > > did
> > > what? You argue in circles.....NO all of the things done wrong do not
> > > make
> > > another thing done wrong right. I'm through even trying to talk to
> > > you.-
> > > Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Papa...
>
> > My points are all mixed up here... I am actually not trying to be
> > offensive... let me get my stuff straightened out for you so you can
> > see what I'm trying to say...
>
> > I agree 100 % with you that as Americans, we should act like good guys
> > and not a bunch of Nazi stooges. Once you lose your moral compass and
> > trample on the law, you don't have anything left to preserve. I can't
> > stress enough that I agree with you 100 %!!!!
>
> > Here is where I got you confused. I would of course also agree with
> > you that the Osama corps not be disrespected, but I made it look like
> > I could care less about what was done. The "ends justify the means"
> > garbage.
>
> > Then... I detailed a number of unsavory things that were done by the
> > government in the interest of fighting terror. The Patriot Act,
> > ionizing radiation, torture not limited to water boarding... torture
> > for heck sake, detention without legal process, surreptitious
> > targeting of heads of state... I think recently we just participated
> > in the killing of some civilians trying to blow up momar....
>
> > And... You want to tell me that the same government and agencies that
> > did all that above actually care about the corps of public enemy
> > number one???
>
> > Given what I have written about, you could come to the conclusion that
> > the only reason they got rid of the body quickly was to hide
> > something. Like perhaps it has really been on ice for the past ten
> > years. Live bad guys make good reasons to spend and promote wars much
> > better then dead bad guys.
>
> > Now that Osama is dead, I guess all our guys come home and the patriot
> > act and the x-ray Nazis will be a thing of the past no??? Mmm Hmmm...
>
> > I'm not saying I go along with that stuff... Just making a point.
>
> > Again... I'm not trying to be a dick head. Just looking at things
> > from all angles
>
> > You are a product of what the media does today....tries to find all
> > kinds
> > of
> > angles instead of looking at any facts presented. I'm sure some video
> > will
> > come out of the events unfolding...as for the body on ice for any
> > period....not when Bush was President it wasn't.....all of these
> > "conspiracies" can be made far less real if we look at facts and not let
> > our
> > imaginations run wild. War is not nice...bad stuff happens...you can not
> > let guys do this kind of activity and act like choir boys...it just
> > isn't
> > realistic...
>
> Of course, you would not be a product of the mass media too, now would
> you ??? Only uninformed fools like me ???
>
> I wanted to add a specific comment here. On one hand, you say we
> needed to treat the dead body with all due respect. On the other
> hand, you say that while we are wrapped up in all this terrorist
> business... which you label as "war", you cant act like a bunch of
> choir boys. That is a tremendous contradiction. IMHO, as far as
> closing the lid on the coffin, it was MOST important to let the world
> in on it. Not spirit the body away. Remember, Papa... in war, you
> cant always act like a bunch of choir boys where blue chip political
> and military issues are concerned. ESPECIALL not in the way that the
> 9-11 mastermind was wrapped up. And I'll remind you again... They
> body could have been examined by independant sources while still
> maintaing what was perscribed by his religion.
>
> You are just as reactive as Fox news is too....we are all products of this
> new phenomena...I'm a Hell of a lot older than you and it is much easier
> for
> an old person to not react as much. So...to appease your needs and wishes
> you would put a lot more people at risk...and create even more chaos? But
> it would make you happy I guess so it would be ok? I don't really think
> too
> much of it was about religion...they disposed of a body nobody wanted to
> take...and there is no physical shrine for him now either.

I agree about not stirring up a hornets nest as far as not being
disrespectful to the body. again... i think the world needed to see
and be involved more. in that i suggest independent examination of
the body....by independent, I mean apart from the military and
government.

do you by any chance remember the jessica lynch affair ??? all the
actual details ??? always good to keep that sort of thing in mind.

That incident was the Army doing what it felt it needed to do..and under a
very different set of guidelines...I believe I've read where those things
have been addressed too. It's not just the religous rules...the knowledge
of where that body is would create a reason for some radicals to act...we do
not need to continue to do their recruiting for them.

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TOPIC: The only way to prevent liberals from destroying America is to start
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, May 3 2011 8:30 am
From: Patriot Games DemocRATHallofShame.Com©


On Mon, 02 May 2011 05:03:56 +0200, "Harry Hope"
<rivruv@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>There will be a second American civil war, and it will be fought
>against liberals, queers, illegal immigrants and socialists.
>Be ready.

Am ready.

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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, May 3 2011 11:19 am
From: mike3


On May 1, 9:03 pm, "Harry Hope" <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> There will be a second American civil war, and it will be fought
> against liberals, queers, illegal immigrants and socialists.
>
> Be ready.

If that happens, so much for "freedom" in America. No freedom to
disagree with anything, no freedom of morality or religion. America
will become an oppressive regime.


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, May 3 2011 12:08 pm
From: Jeff M


On 5/3/2011 1:19 PM, mike3 wrote:
> On May 1, 9:03 pm, "Harry Hope"<riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> There will be a second American civil war, and it will be fought
>> against liberals, queers, illegal immigrants and socialists.
>>
>> Be ready.
>
> If that happens, so much for "freedom" in America. No freedom to
> disagree with anything, no freedom of morality or religion. America
> will become an oppressive regime.

Which is pretty much what these fools want, not realizing that, once
again, they will end up on the bottom of the heap.

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Steeler's Mendenhall Is A Traitor
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, May 3 2011 10:07 am
From: HVAC


PITTSBURGH -- Rashard Mendenhall has created a stir with comments made
on his official Twitter page regarding Osama bin Laden's death.

The Pittsburgh Steelers running back on Monday tweeted: "What kind of
person celebrates death? It's amazing how people can HATE a man they
have never even heard speak. We've only heard one side..."

Mendenhall didn't hold back, even making a reference to the Sept. 11
attacks.

"We'll never know what really happened. I just have a hard time
believing a plane could take a skyscraper down demolition style."

The Steelers felt compelled to act. On Tuesday, team president Art
Rooney II released a statement.

"I have not spoken with Rashard, so it is hard to explain or even
comprehend what he meant with his recent Twitter comments. The entire
Steelers organization is very proud of the job our military personnel
have done and we can only hope this leads to our troops coming home soon."

Mendenhall, who profiles himself as a "conversationalist and
professional athlete" on his Twitter page, turned some heads in March,
as well, when he supported a comment by Minnesota Vikings running back
Adrian Peterson comparing the NFL to "modern-day slavery."


--
"OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, May 3 2011 1:13 pm
From: "Adam Frankel-shit"


BUT YET...HIS POINT IS VALID...

WHITE PEOPLE HAVE SUCH HATE THAT THEY THINK THIS MAN DEATH
SOMEHOW MAKES IT BETTER...
YOU STILL AIN'T GETTING YOUR 9/11 LOVES ONE BACK...
MAYBE THE USA SHOULD HAVE ALLOWED GOD TO TAKE OBL..
USA IS GOING AROUND KILLING OTHER LEADERS. ASK SADDAM
AND HIS KIDS...ASK THE SOON TO BE DEAD LIBYA LEADER..
MAYBE HUGO...FIDEL...WHAT YOU REAP ......?????
"HVAC" <mr.hvac@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ippcmr$pt$1@hvac.motzarella.org...
> PITTSBURGH -- Rashard Mendenhall has created a stir with comments made on
> his official Twitter page regarding Osama bin Laden's death.
>
> The Pittsburgh Steelers running back on Monday tweeted: "What kind of
> person celebrates death? It's amazing how people can HATE a man they have
> never even heard speak. We've only heard one side..."
>
> Mendenhall didn't hold back, even making a reference to the Sept. 11
> attacks.
>
> "We'll never know what really happened. I just have a hard time believing
> a plane could take a skyscraper down demolition style."
>
> The Steelers felt compelled to act. On Tuesday, team president Art Rooney
> II released a statement.
>
> "I have not spoken with Rashard, so it is hard to explain or even
> comprehend what he meant with his recent Twitter comments. The entire
> Steelers organization is very proud of the job our military personnel have
> done and we can only hope this leads to our troops coming home soon."
>
> Mendenhall, who profiles himself as a "conversationalist and professional
> athlete" on his Twitter page, turned some heads in March, as well, when he
> supported a comment by Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson
> comparing the NFL to "modern-day slavery."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> "OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, May 3 2011 3:55 pm
From: Harlan Lachman


In article <ippnll$3h3$1@dont-email.me>,
"Adam Frankel-shit" <Adam12@aol.com> wrote:

> BUT YET...HIS POINT IS VALID...
>
> WHITE PEOPLE HAVE SUCH HATE THAT THEY THINK THIS MAN DEATH
> SOMEHOW MAKES IT BETTER...
> YOU STILL AIN'T GETTING YOUR 9/11 LOVES ONE BACK...
> MAYBE THE USA SHOULD HAVE ALLOWED GOD TO TAKE OBL..
> USA IS GOING AROUND KILLING OTHER LEADERS. ASK SADDAM
> AND HIS KIDS...ASK THE SOON TO BE DEAD LIBYA LEADER..
> MAYBE HUGO...FIDEL...WHAT YOU REAP ......?????
> "HVAC" <mr.hvac@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ippcmr$pt$1@hvac.motzarella.org...
> > PITTSBURGH -- Rashard Mendenhall has created a stir with comments made on
> > his official Twitter page regarding Osama bin Laden's death.
> >
> > The Pittsburgh Steelers running back on Monday tweeted: "What kind of
> > person celebrates death? It's amazing how people can HATE a man they have
> > never even heard speak. We've only heard one side..."
> >
> > Mendenhall didn't hold back, even making a reference to the Sept. 11
> > attacks.
> >
> > "We'll never know what really happened. I just have a hard time believing
> > a plane could take a skyscraper down demolition style."
> >
> > The Steelers felt compelled to act. On Tuesday, team president Art Rooney
> > II released a statement.
> >
> > "I have not spoken with Rashard, so it is hard to explain or even
> > comprehend what he meant with his recent Twitter comments. The entire
> > Steelers organization is very proud of the job our military personnel have
> > done and we can only hope this leads to our troops coming home soon."
> >
> > Mendenhall, who profiles himself as a "conversationalist and professional
> > athlete" on his Twitter page, turned some heads in March, as well, when he
> > supported a comment by Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson
> > comparing the NFL to "modern-day slavery."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > "OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo

It is too bad this all caps drivel hides the point that a lot of what
Mendenhall tweeted makes sense and the tweets highlighted in an article
I read were not an attack on the military our heros at home but on the
policy of personalizing the war on terror and throwing away billions on
our war on terror. Some somewhat intelligent people are wondering if the
efforts and billions have made us safer or more of a target for hate
mongers.

harlan


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, May 3 2011 4:44 pm
From: Michael


On May 3, 6:55 pm, Harlan Lachman <har...@eeivt.com> wrote:
> In article <ippnll$3h...@dont-email.me>,
>  "Adam Frankel-shit" <Ada...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > BUT YET...HIS POINT IS VALID...
>
> > WHITE PEOPLE HAVE SUCH HATE THAT THEY THINK THIS MAN DEATH
> > SOMEHOW MAKES IT BETTER...
> > YOU STILL AIN'T GETTING YOUR 9/11 LOVES ONE BACK...
> > MAYBE THE USA SHOULD HAVE ALLOWED GOD TO TAKE OBL..
> > USA IS GOING AROUND KILLING OTHER LEADERS. ASK SADDAM
> > AND HIS KIDS...ASK THE SOON TO BE DEAD LIBYA LEADER..
> > MAYBE HUGO...FIDEL...WHAT YOU REAP ......?????
> > "HVAC" <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:ippcmr$pt$1@hvac.motzarella.org...
> > > PITTSBURGH -- Rashard Mendenhall has created a stir with comments made on
> > > his official Twitter page regarding Osama bin Laden's death.
>
> > > The Pittsburgh Steelers running back on Monday tweeted: "What kind of
> > > person celebrates death? It's amazing how people can HATE a man they have
> > > never even heard speak. We've only heard one side..."
>
> > > Mendenhall didn't hold back, even making a reference to the Sept. 11
> > > attacks.
>
> > > "We'll never know what really happened. I just have a hard time believing
> > > a plane could take a skyscraper down demolition style."
>
> > > The Steelers felt compelled to act. On Tuesday, team president Art Rooney
> > > II released a statement.
>
> > > "I have not spoken with Rashard, so it is hard to explain or even
> > > comprehend what he meant with his recent Twitter comments. The entire
> > > Steelers organization is very proud of the job our military personnel have
> > > done and we can only hope this leads to our troops coming home soon."
>
> > > Mendenhall, who profiles himself as a "conversationalist and professional
> > > athlete" on his Twitter page, turned some heads in March, as well, when he
> > > supported a comment by Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson
> > > comparing the NFL to "modern-day slavery."
>
> > > --
> > > "OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo
>
> It is too bad this all caps drivel hides the point that a lot of what
> Mendenhall tweeted makes sense and the tweets highlighted in an article
> I read were not an attack on the military our heros at home but on the
> policy of personalizing the war on terror and throwing away billions on
> our war on terror. Some somewhat intelligent people are wondering if the
> efforts and billions have made us safer or more of a target for hate
> mongers.
>
> harlan- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

count me in with the people questioning things...

live free or die


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, May 3 2011 5:04 pm
From: azjim


On May 3, 4:44 pm, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On May 3, 6:55 pm, Harlan Lachman <har...@eeivt.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <ippnll$3h...@dont-email.me>,
> >  "Adam Frankel-shit" <Ada...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > BUT YET...HIS POINT IS VALID...
>
> > > WHITE PEOPLE HAVE SUCH HATE THAT THEY THINK THIS MAN DEATH
> > > SOMEHOW MAKES IT BETTER...
> > > YOU STILL AIN'T GETTING YOUR 9/11 LOVES ONE BACK...
> > > MAYBE THE USA SHOULD HAVE ALLOWED GOD TO TAKE OBL..
> > > USA IS GOING AROUND KILLING OTHER LEADERS. ASK SADDAM
> > > AND HIS KIDS...ASK THE SOON TO BE DEAD LIBYA LEADER..
> > > MAYBE HUGO...FIDEL...WHAT YOU REAP ......?????
> > > "HVAC" <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > >news:ippcmr$pt$1@hvac.motzarella.org...
> > > > PITTSBURGH -- Rashard Mendenhall has created a stir with comments made on
> > > > his official Twitter page regarding Osama bin Laden's death.
>
> > > > The Pittsburgh Steelers running back on Monday tweeted: "What kind of
> > > > person celebrates death? It's amazing how people can HATE a man they have
> > > > never even heard speak. We've only heard one side..."
>
> > > > Mendenhall didn't hold back, even making a reference to the Sept. 11
> > > > attacks.
>
> > > > "We'll never know what really happened. I just have a hard time believing
> > > > a plane could take a skyscraper down demolition style."
>
> > > > The Steelers felt compelled to act. On Tuesday, team president Art Rooney
> > > > II released a statement.
>
> > > > "I have not spoken with Rashard, so it is hard to explain or even
> > > > comprehend what he meant with his recent Twitter comments. The entire
> > > > Steelers organization is very proud of the job our military personnel have
> > > > done and we can only hope this leads to our troops coming home soon."
>
> > > > Mendenhall, who profiles himself as a "conversationalist and professional
> > > > athlete" on his Twitter page, turned some heads in March, as well, when he
> > > > supported a comment by Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson
> > > > comparing the NFL to "modern-day slavery."
>
> > > > --
> > > > "OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
> > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo
>
> > It is too bad this all caps drivel hides the point that a lot of what
> > Mendenhall tweeted makes sense and the tweets highlighted in an article
> > I read were not an attack on the military our heros at home but on the
> > policy of personalizing the war on terror and throwing away billions on
> > our war on terror. Some somewhat intelligent people are wondering if the
> > efforts and billions have made us safer or more of a target for hate
> > mongers.
>
> > harlan- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> count me in with the people questioning things...
>
> live free or die

No Rashard is just an idiot, and Adam needs a remedial English class.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, May 3 2011 11:30 am
From: "PatsSox"

<69ingchipmunks@park.com> wrote in message ...
> On Mon, 2 May 2011 07:24:41 -0400, "PatsSox" <PatsSox@NErawks.com>
> wrote:
>>"Ray O'Hara" <raymond-ohara@hotmail.com> wrote in message ...
>>> "PatsSox" <PatsSox@NErawks.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ipflct$rnu$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>
>>>> "Seymour T. Greenfield" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message ...
>>>>> I've often wondered how Bush managed to do that with a majority
>>>>> Democrat
>>>>> Congress in place for most of his two terms. Perhaps you could
>>>>> elaborate.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps you could explain what you mean by "most of his two
>>>> terms".
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> he meant that for 2 out of 8 years Dems controlled Congress, that's
>>> "most"
>>> in teabaggerland
>>
>>
>> Bush had a Republican house for 6 of his 8 years... and a
>> Republican
>>Senate for 4 of his 8 years. This new teabagger math makes about as
>>much
>>sense as anything else the lunatics say or do.
>>
> so if we use that then he had a democrat control on him for 6 of his 8
> years . 2 years house and 4 years senate = 6 years of democrats
> controlling something .
> thanks for clearing that up


You are clearly a moron. There are many sites available that will
explain the basics to you. You might start with www.senate.gov where you
can find much info that you apparently have never been made aware of.
Good luck.

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, May 3 2011 4:45 pm
From: 788@gmail.com


Good for Tom Brady...............as someone who has waist length hair
I say to Tom go for it...........grow it as long as you want.

http://offthebench.nbcsports.com/2011/05/03/bundchen-bradys-long-hair-is-his-choice/related


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, May 3 2011 5:10 pm
From: "Ray O'Hara"

<788@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5q41s6dk62j9msfnqlgd7gd5ggv576tffq@4ax.com...
> Good for Tom Brady...............as someone who has waist length hair
> I say to Tom go for it...........grow it as long as you want.
>
>
>
> http://offthebench.nbcsports.com/2011/05/03/bundchen-bradys-long-hair-is-his-choice/related


he'll grow it as long as Giselle wants.


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