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[socialactionfoundationforequity:13833 Call monitoring units to be set up in all states

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Call monitoring units to be set up in all states
http://igovernment.in/site/call-monitoring-units-be-set-all-states

As part of the modernisation scheme of the Special Branches of the
police, these units will monitor and intercept suspicious telephonic
conversations

Submitted by jpgupta on 05/05/2011

New Delhi: The Union Home Ministry has proposed setting up a
communications monitoring facility in all state capitals to monitor
and intercept suspicious telephonic conversations.

The special unit under the Police Department will have the facilities
to monitor Voice Calls, SMS and MMS, GPRS and fax communications on
landlines, CDMA and GSM networks.

The move is a part of the Intelligence Bureau scheme to modernise the
Special Branches of police in the states.

"One of the requirements is the setting up of a Telephone Call
Interception System (TCIS) in each service provider, which has been
licensed for the state to legally monitor the calls as and when
required," a draft proposal said.

The TCIS is needed in 30 locations all over India, in each state and
UT headquarters, the draft proposal in this regard said.

—iGovernment Bureau

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:13833 Turkey's Domestic Violence | Congo Rebels on Trial

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rec.bicycles.racing - 25 new messages in 5 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* why I'll never ride sram in any grand tour or one day classic - 15 messages,
10 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/d6e0391dd7450e74?hl=en
* Distracted drivers on cell phones kill more American's each year than Osama
did in total - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/5d80acdfc59d1110?hl=en
* No problem with doping in NFL - 5 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/7c3c23b9310f2d44?hl=en
* Clear evidence of widespread USCF doping - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/2eaefc17b3db9fcc?hl=en
* Lance Out of 2011 Giro d'Italia - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/9fdb782ee4f234ae?hl=en

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TOPIC: why I'll never ride sram in any grand tour or one day classic
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/d6e0391dd7450e74?hl=en
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== 1 of 15 ==
Date: Wed, May 4 2011 11:48 pm
From: yirgster


A few weeks ago my sram force shift lever (the actual paddle that you
push) broke off on the right shifter. 30 miles to go.

Looking around in the forums, I'm not alone. Maybe an extra 10 grams
or so would have helped.

About 3000-4000 miles.


== 2 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, May 5 2011 6:28 am
From: Phil H


On May 4, 11:48 pm, yirgster <yirg.ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> A few weeks ago my sram force shift lever (the actual paddle that you
> push) broke off on the right shifter. 30 miles to go.
>
> Looking around in the forums, I'm not alone. Maybe an extra 10 grams
> or so would have helped.
>
> About 3000-4000 miles.

I hope you were stuck in a 53/14 with no hills.
Phil H


== 3 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, May 5 2011 6:50 am
From: Clive George


On 05/05/2011 07:48, yirgster wrote:
> A few weeks ago my sram force shift lever (the actual paddle that you
> push) broke off on the right shifter. 30 miles to go.
>
> Looking around in the forums, I'm not alone. Maybe an extra 10 grams
> or so would have helped.
>
> About 3000-4000 miles.

I've bust two campag shift levers so far.


== 4 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, May 5 2011 9:01 am
From: bfd


On May 5, 6:50 am, Clive George <cl...@xxxx-x.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> On 05/05/2011 07:48, yirgster wrote:
>
> > A few weeks ago my sram force shift lever (the actual paddle that you
> > push) broke off on the right shifter. 30 miles to go.
>
> > Looking around in the forums, I'm not alone. Maybe an extra 10 grams
> > or so would have helped.
>
> > About 3000-4000 miles.
>
> I've bust two campag shift levers so far.

But you have been able to repair them, right?! :) Good Luck!


== 5 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, May 5 2011 10:12 am
From: "Fred on a stick"


Dumbass,

You'll never ride in any grand tour or one day classic.


== 6 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, May 5 2011 10:20 am
From: "Colin B."


In rec.bicycles.tech yirgster <yirg.kenya@gmail.com> wrote:
> A few weeks ago my sram force shift lever (the actual paddle that you
> push) broke off on the right shifter. 30 miles to go.
>
> Looking around in the forums, I'm not alone. Maybe an extra 10 grams
> or so would have helped.
>
> About 3000-4000 miles.

Had a shiny new Shimano MTB brake lever snap off on me - a brake lever!
No torsion on that, just weak metal, bad design, or flaws.

Shit happens.

== 7 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, May 5 2011 10:58 am
From: yirgster


Gosh, you think?


== 8 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, May 5 2011 10:58 am
From: yirgster


Thanks! Not quite such luck though.

The lever broke just at a start of a climb (the hill to the cheese factory in Marin, if you're familiar).

My two friends and I were just looking at it sort of flummoxed when someone else pulled over, saying, let's just adjust the cable. Don't know why I didn't think of that. I've fixed bikes.

So, I selected a cog, he quickly adjusted the cable so that it sat on it, yielding 2 fixed gears, one per chainring, obviously.

There was this hill and one more, the Marshall wall (doesn't deserve that sobriquet, imo) to the coast. No problema, thankfully. On the flats and downhills I quickly outran the gears.

== 9 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, May 5 2011 11:10 am
From: yirgster


On the road, as per my reply to Phil H above.

The group was still under warranty. You have to go through the dealer for sram. At least that's what they said on their web site. I called them--neuvation cycling. They promptly, that day, sent out a new lever, asking that I return the busted one so they could get credit. Arrived in two days. Sent back the other.

It was about a week before the bike was back together. Meanwhile I had to slum it on my old Habanero ti. Don't know how I managed.

== 10 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, May 5 2011 11:24 am
From: "Fred on a stick"


Dumbass,

Fixed your subject line for you.


== 11 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, May 5 2011 2:10 pm
From: landotter


On May 5, 1:48 am, yirgster <yirg.ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> A few weeks ago my sram force shift lever (the actual paddle that you
> push) broke off on the right shifter. 30 miles to go.
>
> Looking around in the forums, I'm not alone. Maybe an extra 10 grams
> or so would have helped.
>
> About 3000-4000 miles.

Which model year? They switched to magnesium last year which may have
contributed to gimpiness. I'd contact Sram and see if you can warranty
the levers.


== 12 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, May 5 2011 2:40 pm
From: yirgster


I got the bike late July, 2010, so I assume they're the latest.

Per a previous reply, they were warranty replaced immediately by the dealer, neuvationcycling.com


== 13 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, May 5 2011 6:12 pm
From: Snortley


On Thu, 5 May 2011 14:10:07 -0700 (PDT), landotter
<landotter@gmail.com> wrote:

>On May 5, 1:48 am, yirgster <yirg.ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> A few weeks ago my sram force shift lever (the actual paddle that you
>> push) broke off on the right shifter. 30 miles to go.
>>
>> Looking around in the forums, I'm not alone. Maybe an extra 10 grams
>> or so would have helped.
>>
>> About 3000-4000 miles.
>
>Which model year? They switched to magnesium last year which may have
>contributed to gimpiness. I'd contact Sram and see if you can warranty
>the levers.


I haven't had any SRAM parts break, but I've wanted spares, and had an
awful time getting them.

They are very generous with exploded diagrams and part numbers, but
the actual pieces are next to impossible to obtain. Some European bike
shops list a few for sale, but if you try to order them, they turn
out to actually not be in stock.

I did once ask a LBS to order axle nuts and a click box for a SRAM
DualDrive hub. The manager had to go through a ton of red tape to get
them. After over six months of runarounds, he finally got the order -
2 sets of nuts (weird size: 10.5 x 1) and washers and 2 click boxes.
When I asked how much, he replied, "No charge; warranteed items."
Can't beat the price, but SRAM's policy is discouraging.

Apparently, they would rather you just swap out a $250 component when
the problem is just one piece worth only a few bucks. For most of
their customers, this isn't a problem. Most of them won't put more
than a few hundred miles on their bikes in a lifetime, so nothing
breaks. For anyone who rides a lot, though, it can be a real
irritation.

I guess the days are long gone since you could get hold of all sorts
of spares. Once upon a time, many manufacturers were at the ready
with every little piece one way or another.

Nowadays, when when we in the West manufacture so little, and use the
dustbin rather than repair anything, this is to be expected. Fairly
often I've found myself in the home of someone who doesn't even have a
screwdriver or pair of pliers. If no one fixes anything, why bother
with parts?

Last month, I was on a lunch break in the middle of a ride. Outside
the diner where I was sitting, there was a long line of patrons at a
table in front of a housewares store. I wondered what was in such
demand that so many were turning out. Then I saw the banner
advertising the deal: bring in you chef's knife for a free sharpening!
These people couldn't even sharpen a kitchen knife! Not a few, but
they were showing up in droves! What the store was offering seemed
like a sign of the times. Would this have been a draw 50 years ago?
Probably not. What will be next? A shoe store offering to tie
shoelaces for free? We're becoming helpless. Last year, on a club
ride, someone's chain broke. No problem, maybe; I had an extra 9-speed
master link with me. I asked the rider how many rear cogs she had. She
didn't know. Probably couldn't sharpen a knife, either. (She had nine
cogs; the chain was fixed.)

You very well may get the same "warranteed item" policy on your
brifter, in which case you're set, though with another brittle paddle.
The way those things tend to be riveted and crimped together, it
probably couldn't be remedied with a replacement part, anyway. Still,
you have to wonder just how much it would set SRAM back to keep a room
stocked with spares, for the few remaining who do have a few tools
around the house, and know how to use them. I reckon if they did, the
payback in their reputation would give them such a competetive edge,
it would be well worth it. But I've got to stop thinking that way;
that's SO twentieth century.


== 14 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, May 5 2011 6:32 pm
From: "Ronsonic"

"Snortley" <jtkirk@enterprise.mil> wrote in message
news:a6f6s6dmupb7man53tdfho0bepkimsds1u@4ax.com...

> Last month, I was on a lunch break in the middle of a ride. Outside
> the diner where I was sitting, there was a long line of patrons at a
> table in front of a housewares store. I wondered what was in such
> demand that so many were turning out. Then I saw the banner
> advertising the deal: bring in you chef's knife for a free sharpening!
> These people couldn't even sharpen a kitchen knife! Not a few, but
> they were showing up in droves! What the store was offering seemed
> like a sign of the times. Would this have been a draw 50 years ago?
>

Fifty years ago there was an old guy on a pedal powered thingawachit who
rode through the neighborhood ringing a bell. He sharpened knives. And
scissors! The sign was real big about the scissors but knives were his core
business.

Not only was it a draw, but a big enough of one to be worth delivering.


== 15 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, May 5 2011 8:02 pm
From: Tºm Shermªn™ °_° <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net">


On 5/5/2011 8:12 PM, Snortley wrote:
> [...]
> Last month, I was on a lunch break in the middle of a ride. Outside
> the diner where I was sitting, there was a long line of patrons at a
> table in front of a housewares store. I wondered what was in such
> demand that so many were turning out. Then I saw the banner
> advertising the deal: bring in you chef's knife for a free sharpening!
> These people couldn't even sharpen a kitchen knife! Not a few, but
> they were showing up in droves! What the store was offering seemed
> like a sign of the times. Would this have been a draw 50 years ago?

Think of the hundreds of people milling around with now sharpened
kitchen knives!

> Probably not. What will be next? A shoe store offering to tie
> shoelaces for free? We're becoming helpless. Last year, on a club
> ride, someone's chain broke. No problem, maybe; I had an extra 9-speed
> master link with me. I asked the rider how many rear cogs she had. She
> didn't know. Probably couldn't sharpen a knife, either. (She had nine
> cogs; the chain was fixed.)

With 5 through 8-speed chain, one could remove the broken link and
reconnect the chain with a chain tool. With 9 through 11-speed chain,
one needs a special stupid pin (Shimano) or a quick-link (all).

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Distracted drivers on cell phones kill more American's each year than
Osama did in total
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/5d80acdfc59d1110?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, May 5 2011 6:12 am
From: Phil H


On May 4, 4:33 pm, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 4, 3:37 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Ronsonic" <ronso...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:4dc182ef$0$8741$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>
> > > "Anton Berlin" <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >news:90ec6d00-056a-4678-a5ec-a010c3fd09e7@i39g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> > >> When will the US Govt protect the lives of innocent Americans at
> > >> home ?
>
> > > Well, if you're suggesting we shoot cell-phone-drivers in the head I could
> > > probably get behind that.
>
> > And rbr thread without controversy does not an rbr thread make. Anton's
> > slipping.
>
> > --Mike Jacoubowsky
> > Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReaction.com
> > Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
>
> You're right - it's the lousiest troll post ever - but I did want to
> remind everyone about the real enemy.

You have a point, in the same 10 years of war where 6 000 US soldiers
have lost their lives, the US has lost 350 000 in traffic deaths and
170 000 in gun associated homicides here at home. An interesting
perspective.
Phil H

==============================================================================
TOPIC: No problem with doping in NFL
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/7c3c23b9310f2d44?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, May 5 2011 6:26 am
From: Phil H


On May 4, 6:34 pm, "Ronsonic" <ronso...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> "Anton Berlin" <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:8b34ada7-9144-4185-9cd2-48430588e4c3@p7g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Looks like they get it all done between college and their first
> > paycheck.
>
> > "First paycheck" that isn't cash, cars or cunt.
>
> >http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Von-Mille...
>
> Are we shocked that the sort of young men drafted by the NFL are the sort
> who, when put into a professionally managed training environment, put on a
> bunch of muscle between the ages of 18 and 23?
>
> Because we know it just ain't natural for a guy that age to bulk up by
> lifting weights and eating and stuff.
>
> Yeah, yeah, there is that "and stuff," but really, this isn't exactly
> freaky.

Exactly, how does the reported statistic compare with the general
population's weight increase from age 18 to 23?
Phil H


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, May 5 2011 7:13 am
From: Vagina Gorilla


On May 5, 8:26 am, Phil H <pholma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 4, 6:34 pm, "Ronsonic" <ronso...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Anton Berlin" <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:8b34ada7-9144-4185-9cd2-48430588e4c3@p7g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > Looks like they get it all done between college and their first
> > > paycheck.
>
> > > "First paycheck" that isn't cash, cars or cunt.
>
> > >http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Von-Mille...
>
> > Are we shocked that the sort of young men drafted by the NFL are the sort
> > who, when put into a professionally managed training environment, put on a
> > bunch of muscle between the ages of 18 and 23?
>
> > Because we know it just ain't natural for a guy that age to bulk up by
> > lifting weights and eating and stuff.
>
> > Yeah, yeah, there is that "and stuff," but really, this isn't exactly
> > freaky.
>
> Exactly, how does the reported statistic compare with the general
> population's weight increase from age 18 to 23?
> Phil H

HS kids are juiced too


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, May 5 2011 7:28 am
From: Fred Flintstein


On 5/5/2011 9:13 AM, Vagina Gorilla wrote:
> On May 5, 8:26 am, Phil H<pholma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On May 4, 6:34 pm, "Ronsonic"<ronso...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> "Anton Berlin"<truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>>> news:8b34ada7-9144-4185-9cd2-48430588e4c3@p7g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>>> Looks like they get it all done between college and their first
>>>> paycheck.
>>
>>>> "First paycheck" that isn't cash, cars or cunt.
>>
>>>> http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Von-Mille...
>>
>>> Are we shocked that the sort of young men drafted by the NFL are the sort
>>> who, when put into a professionally managed training environment, put on a
>>> bunch of muscle between the ages of 18 and 23?
>>
>>> Because we know it just ain't natural for a guy that age to bulk up by
>>> lifting weights and eating and stuff.
>>
>>> Yeah, yeah, there is that "and stuff," but really, this isn't exactly
>>> freaky.
>>
>> Exactly, how does the reported statistic compare with the general
>> population's weight increase from age 18 to 23?
>> Phil H
>
> HS kids are juiced too

Maybe a decade ago I saw an article where a guy looked up the listed
weights of star high school linemen over a ten year period. He found
about a 50 lb (22.7 kg) weight gain. I'll bet just about every Div 1
recruit is familiar with "stuff".

Fred Flintstein


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, May 5 2011 9:19 am
From: Jim Feeley


Vagina Gorilla <vaginagorilla@gmail.com> wrote:

> On May 5, 8:26 am, Phil H <pholma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On May 4, 6:34 pm, "Ronsonic" <ronso...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > "Anton Berlin" <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >news:8b34ada7-9144-4185-9cd2-48430588e4c3@p7g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > > Looks like they get it all done between college and their first
>> > > paycheck.
>>
>> > > "First paycheck" that isn't cash, cars or cunt.
>>
>> > >http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Von-Mille.
..
>>
>> > Are we shocked that the sort of young men drafted by the NFL are the so
rt
>> > who, when put into a professionally managed training environment, put o
n a
>> > bunch of muscle between the ages of 18 and 23?
>>
>> > Because we know it just ain't natural for a guy that age to bulk up by
>> > lifting weights and eating and stuff.
>>
>> > Yeah, yeah, there is that "and stuff," but really, this isn't exactly
>> > freaky.
>>
>> Exactly, how does the reported statistic compare with the general
>> population's weight increase from age 18 to 23?
>> Phil H
>
> HS kids are juiced too

Also, reported player weights are frequently inaccurate. Depending on position,
weights are inflated or deflated by coaching staffs, agents, and players. So
some of the weight gain is due to "and stuff." But how much?

And yes, some high school kids are juiced. But how many? The published surveys
are fairly bogus. Texas recently released the results of their steroid testing
program for high school athletes. 2083 tests, one positive (and one failure to
show up for the test). But those tests included golfers and others who might be
less likely to use steroids. It looks like only 469 of the tests were of
football players (there's a category for boys multi-sport athletes; 344 of those
were tested). Texas is a big state. So who knows if the test results show that
not many kids use steroids or if the testing was week.

Jim
--
Jim
Jim Feeley
POV Media

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, May 5 2011 9:28 am
From: "Ronsonic"

"Phil H" <pholman50@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:61d3feb7-5292-4e3b-a399-cc8073ecc4da@f15g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
On May 4, 6:34 pm, "Ronsonic" <ronso...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> "Anton Berlin" <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:8b34ada7-9144-4185-9cd2-48430588e4c3@p7g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Looks like they get it all done between college and their first
> > paycheck.
>
> > "First paycheck" that isn't cash, cars or cunt.
>
> >http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Von-Mille...
>
> Are we shocked that the sort of young men drafted by the NFL are the sort
> who, when put into a professionally managed training environment, put on a
> bunch of muscle between the ages of 18 and 23?
>
> Because we know it just ain't natural for a guy that age to bulk up by
> lifting weights and eating and stuff.
>
> Yeah, yeah, there is that "and stuff," but really, this isn't exactly
> freaky.

>Exactly, how does the reported statistic compare with the general
>population's weight increase from age 18 to 23?

These kids aren't the general population, that's sorta the entire point
about them. They are self-selected and then further selected by experts over
a period of years. They wouldn't have either Div I scholarships or NFL draft
positions if they were normal.

They are distinctive in both seeking / accepting rigorous training and by
responding to it. I could (did) pound hell out of myself in the weight room
without much upper body bulk for a result. The same is probably true for
most cyclists.

I don't doubt there's some serious juicing going on. At the same time,
that's an age when muscle growth is at a peak anyway. The idea that there's
something unnatural about a guy that age packing on 30 pounds of muscle over
four years of intense, professionally coached training is almost as weird as
the theory that anyone who goes faster than Greg Lemond must be drugged.
IOW, as "proof" of doping goes, this is about the weakest evidence that
could be presented.

Some of the other weight gains cited in that article are also unremarkable.
The guy who went from Tight End to Tackle and picked up 50 some pounds is
not surprising either. Hell some people gain that much just from getting a
desk job.

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, May 5 2011 10:10 am
From: RicodJour


http://tinyurl.com/Here-There-Be-Dopers

It's revolting.

R


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, May 5 2011 2:15 pm
From: Anton Berlin


On May 5, 12:10 pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/Here-There-Be-Dopers
>
> It's revolting.
>
> R

I blame Hollywood - ever since "Searching for Brian Lafferty" came out
the chess world hasn't been the same


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, May 5 2011 3:22 pm
From: BL


On 5/5/2011 5:15 PM, Anton Berlin wrote:
> On May 5, 12:10 pm, RicodJour<ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
>> http://tinyurl.com/Here-There-Be-Dopers
>>
>> It's revolting.
>>
>> R
>
> I blame Hollywood - ever since "Searching for Brian Lafferty" came out
> the chess world hasn't been the same

:-)

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, May 5 2011 6:15 pm
From: Zenon


Lance, the one nut dickhead, will not be in the Giro d'Italia this
year because:

1) He only has one nut
2) He's too fucking old
3) They don't allow injections
4) He'll be home counting his money
5) He'll be flying around in his jet


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[socialactionfoundationforequity:13824 HARYANA POLICE SHAME ON ALL OF YOU- DGP Goa registers FIR on all 59 policemen on duty at the relevant police posts within 30 days of custodial death: DGP Haryana and Commissioner Police Gurgaon claim ignorance even after lapse of 16 months

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Subject: HARYANA POLICE SHAME ON ALL OF YOU- DGP Goa registers FIR on all 59 policemen on duty at the relevant police posts within 30 days of custodial death: DGP Haryana and Commissioner Police Gurgaon claim ignorance even after lapse of 16 months
 
Dear Shri Dalal and Shri Deswal,
 
It took DGP Goa only 30 days to register FIR against EACH & EVERY ONE OF ALL 59 POLICEMAN on duty between 10.30.P.M. on 07.01.2011 to 11.55 A. M. on 08.01.2011 under Sections 302/201/34 IPC in custodial death case of 09.01.2011. An S.I.T. was set up by Home Minister of Goa in 25 days.

 
It is still not too late to regain the honour and good name of Haryana Police and clear the suspicion in the public mind that you have come under pressure of two ministers of the State, even as 16 precious months have been wasted by you in "investigation." in this custodial death of 12.01.2010 where police of one police station picked up Krishan Kumar at 10.30 A.M. on 11.01.2010; unexplained gap of all of seven crucial hours was followed by a policeman of another police station deposting him, all without any medical examination and without any jamatalashi. Trying to pass of the responsibilty upon Bhondsi Jail does you no credit and does not clear you of complicity in the alleged evil designs of the ministers alleged to be involved.
 
IF YOU DO NOT WANT THE PUBLIC TO SUSPECT YOU OF COMPLICITY IN THIS CUSTODIAL DEATH THEN KINDLY:
 
(1) Immediately order registration of F.I.R. against ALL POLICEMEN ON DUTY AT SECTOR 5 POLICE STATION between 10.30.A.M. on 11.01.2011 to 5.35 P. M. on 11.01.2011 under Sections 302/201/34 IPC in custodial death case of 09.01.2011.
 
(2) Immediately order registration of F.I.R. against ALL POLICEMEN ON DUTY AT CITY POLICE STATION  between 10.30.A.M. on 11.01.2011 to 5.35 P. M. on 11.01.2011 under Sections 302/201/34 IPC in custodial death case of 09.01.2011.
 
(3) Immediately order registration of F.I.R. against ALL JAILORS AND DOCTORS ON DUTY AT BHONDSI JAIL between 5.35 P.M. on 11.01.2011 to 7.50 A. M. on 12.01.2011 under Sections 302/201/34 IPC in custodial death case of 09.01.2011.
 
(4) Immediately order registration of F.I.R. against ALL DOCTORS ON DUTY AT CIVIL HOSPITAL GURGAON between 7.35 A.M. on 12.01.2011 to 1.00 P. M. on 13.01.2011 under Sections 302/201/34 IPC in custodial death case of 09.01.2011. ABETMENT IN MURDER (Having delayed PMR under alleged political pressure in perverse manner and releasing vital evidence (dead body) without prior permission of duty magistrate allowing evidence to be destroyed in perverse manner.)
 
Since the Chief Justice of India seems also to have failed in his duty  under Article 51A and Article 141 law binding upon him (howsoever high he may be) after our petition to the Chief Justice of India dated 25.04.2011, I am breaching judicial discipline by reporting the matter to United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR), Civil Society Section, Palais des Nations, CH-1211 Geneva 10, Switzerland, Telephone: +41 22 917 9656, Mail:  civilsociety@ohchr.org  
 
I am fully aware that the OHCHR can do precisely nothing in the matter, but if every single institution in this country from President of India downwards, including media, chooses to maintain a studied silence, then I as  a citizen is left with nothing except to shame my own State and my own Nation (excluding Goa) before the whole world, albeit with heavy heart. Police Commissioner Gurgaon is denying information of culpable police staff of two police stations under cover of interference in investigation!!! After all of 16 months of fraudulent investigation. FSL Madhuban is providing all other viscera reports but not this one which is delayed for 16 months now!!! Ministers allegedly involved roam free to kill and maim as they please using the police and jail staff as their personal servants. Magistrates repeatedly order the complicit agencies to carry out reiterative and purposeless investigations when FIR should be registered forthwith!!! There is allegation that the only magistrate who stood up to political pressure brought upon him has been removed in circumstances which raise suspicion of complicity of even the High Court, soon after submitting inquiry report after 15 months. It is very much in the public interest to make all information of this case immediately and publicly available.
 
The silence has become too deafening to bear. Hence this intemperate outburst for which I apologise in advance to my fellow countrymen.
 
Regards.

Sarvadaman Oberoi
Tower 1 Flat 1102, The Uniworld Garden,
Sohna Road, Gurgaon 122018 Haryana INDIA
Mobile: +919818768349 Tele: +911244227522
Website: http://www.freewebs.com/homeopathy249/
email: manioberoi@gmail.com

Jaago Re "Aaj Se Khilana Bandh, Pilana Shuru"
 
 
DOCUMENTATION IN CUSTODIAL DEATH CASE 12.01.2010 AVAILABLE AT DOCSTOC REQUIRES LOGIN 
 
1. INQUIRY MAGISTRATE REPORT DT 02.04.2011 IN CUSTODIAL DEATH CASE P.S. BHONDSI DT 11.01.2010:
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/78244064/Minister-Police-Jailors-Doctors-Involved
 
2.  EMAIL DT 22.04.2011 AND 14.01.2010:
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/78244963/Viscera-Report-missing
 
3. PRIVATE COMPLAINT TO P.S. BHONDSI FOR FIR 23.04.2011
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/78245141/FIR-No-action-by-police
 
4. PETITION TO CHIEF JUSTICE OF INDIA DT 25.04.2011
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/78245257/Petition-to-Supreme-Court
 
5. COMPLAINT UNDER SECTION 18 (1) TO STATE INFORMATION COMMISSION HARYANA DT 04.05.2011
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/78752570/Custodial-Death-Gurgaon
 
6. Comparison Goa Custodial Death Case of 09.01.2011 vis a vis Gurgaon Custodial Death Case of 12.01.2010
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/78852742/Gurgaon-vs-Goa


 

Comparison Goa Custodial Death Case CYPRIANO CORNELIO FERNANDES of 09.01.2011 vis a vis Gurgaon Custodial Death Case KRISHAN KUMAR of 12.01.2010

 

Detail

Gurgaon Custodial Death Case (Krishan Kumar)

Goa Custodial Death Case (Cipriano Fernandes)

Date and time of arrest

11.01.2010 at 10.30 A.M. by P.S. Sector 5, Gurgaon whereas deceased was on bail from 05.08.2009 to 11.02.2010 and magisterial inquiry concluded that circumstances under which bail was prematurely cancelled are unclear and not available on record of the court file

07.01.2011 at 10.30 P.M. by P.S. Town, Panaji

Medical done at time of arrest

No

No

Transfer to jail

11.01.2010 at 5.35 P.M. by P.S. City, Gurgaon

No

Jamatalashi by police

No

No

Jamatalashi  by jail

No

Not Applicable

Thorough medical by jail M.O.

No

Not Applicable

Brought to hospital from

Brought dead from jail at 7 A.M. on 12.01.2010. Declared brought dead at 7.50 A.M.

Brought in serious condition from P.S. Town Panaji at 3 P.M. on 08.01.2011. Expired in hospital at 6.35 A.M. on 09.01.2011

Post Mortem Done at

Civil Hospital Gurgaon at 9 A.M. on 13.01.2010 nearly 26 hours after death. Items banned in jail i.e. bidi packet and yellow metal pendant found by doctors during post mortem on 13.01.2010 giving the lie to claims of jamatalashi by police and jail staff

Goa Medical College and Hospital at 9 A.M. on 09.01.2011 within 2-3 hours of death

Injuries reported by magistrate

Yes, 15 photos of injuries taken by photographer of P.S. Bhondsi, Gurgaon on 12.01.2010 at about 2 P.M.

8 injuries reported by magistrate as against 7 injuries reported in PMR

Video recording PMR as per NHRC Guidelines

No

No

Injuries and cause of death reported in PMR

Cause of death withheld awaiting viscera report. PMR silent as to injuries

7 injuries out of which 2 injuries to the head cause of brain swelling

Viscera report

Not received even after 16 months from FSL Madhuban, Karnal

Received on 28.01.2011 within 19 days from FSL Verna, Goa

Magistrate report

Witnesses examined till 25.03.2011 in 14 months

All witnesses examined by 04.02.2011 in about 3 weeks

Magistrate report

PMR received on 13.01.2010 at 10.30 A.M. less cause of death which continues to be withheld awaiting viscera report. Report submitted on 02.04.2011 only because magistrate posted to Sirsa on 01.04.2011

Final PMR with cause of death and viscera report received on 28.01.2011 and final report of magistrate submitted on 03.02.2011

Special Investigation Team (S.I.T.) appointed by State Govt

No

Yes, on 04.02.2011

Death reported to NHRC by police

No

Yes, on 11.01.2011

Report to NHRC by jail

No record of report exists with NHRC; unsubstantiated affidavit of Bhondsi Jail Superintendent without SPEEDPOST reference number etc that report was made on 12.01.2010

Not applicable

Report to NHRC and action

Case dismissed after report by some NGO to NHRC without any intimation to NOK of deceased. NGO had asked for suspension of Jail Superintendent for fair and impartial investigation but it acceded to dismissal of case based solely upon a false affidavit of said Jail Superintendent alone.

13.04.2011:

… case crime No.4/11 for the offences punishable u/s 302/201/34 IPC has been registered at PS CID/CB, North Goa on 8.2.2011 against the policemen. … As per the magisterial enquiry report the policemen have been held responsible for the death of deceased Cyprian Cornelio Fernandes. … let notice u/s 18 of the Protection of Human Rights Act 1993 be sent to Chief Secretary, Govt. of Goa, Panaji calling upon him to show cause why interim relief may not be recommended to be paid to the next of kin of the deceased. He is also directed to apprise the Commission about the status of case crime No.4/11. Response in four weeks.

Complaint/ Appeal to State Information Commission

Complaint to Haryana SIC on 04.05.2011

Three appeals to Goa SIC Appl117-10:Jowett D`souza, Colva, Salcete.Vs.1) PIO, Supdt of Police, Police HQ, Panaji.2)FAA, IGP, Police HQ, Panaji. Partly allowed. Appeal is disposed off. 28-02-2011

Appl118-10:Jowett D`Souza, Colva, Salcete Vs.1) PIO, Supdt. of Police, Police HQ, Panaji.2)FAA, IGP, Police HQ, Panaji. Appeal allowed to the extent enquiry is concerned. Appeal is disposed off. 28-02-2011

Appl119-10:Jowett D`souza, Colva, Salcete Vs.1)PIO, Supdt of Police, Police Hq., Panaji.2)FAA, IGP, Police Hq., Panaji. Partly allowed. Disposed off by order dtd.28.02.2011.

Complaint for FIR

At P.S. Bhondsi on 23.04.2011 by wife and brother of deceased - pending FIR

By Kenneth Silveira, an eye witness to the beating by police on 26.02.2011 – pending FIR

FIR against policemen

None

Case crime No.4/11 for the offences punishable u/s 302/201/34 IPC has been registered at PS CID/CB, North Goa on 8.2.2011 against all the 59 policemen on duty from 10.30 P.M. on 07.01.2011 to 11.55 A.M. on 08.01.2011

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