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* A list of cyclists that have taken the "Bike Pure" pledge to race clean. - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/bf68cd536904fa3e?hl=en
* Universal sports cycling coverage is just fabulous!!! Todd "Gogo" Gogulski...
. Todd "Gaygay" Gogulski ? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/c118c0dceffed994?hl=en
* so you want to be a pro? - 4 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/833bd784841dfab4?hl=en
* RIP: Weylandt Funeral - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/ae99a88930fc3d9b?hl=en
* Free the Tasmanian 1600! - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/cf1a76043a9fc248?hl=en
* Le Gamin au Velo - finally a cycling film to erase the memory of Quicksilver.
- 5 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/6d8b905d16a55973?hl=en
* Giro d'Italia, stage 11 summary - 6 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/94381ad7a743a350?hl=en
* Byron Sonne - Bail tomorrow - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/3e6fdb5ea55e2c16?hl=en
* showing his true promise - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/da41da87d899bd65?hl=en
* As Petacchi sprinted down the final 100 meters today I realized than no man
can escape - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/32a25258b07dea50?hl=en
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TOPIC: A list of cyclists that have taken the "Bike Pure" pledge to race clean.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/bf68cd536904fa3e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, May 17 2011 11:41 pm
From: Phil H
On May 17, 9:34 am, Vagina Gorilla <vaginagori...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Anyone heard of any of these losers? I found a few in the DNF and
> abandoned lists.
>
> http://bikepure.org/riders-and-teams/pro-riders/page/10/
>
> There's also a list of CEOs and politicians that have taken a pledge
> not to lie, cheat or steal.
>
> http://www.aeropause.com/wordpress/archives/images/2009/05/error404.jpg
http://ridecleanteam.com/
Phil H
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TOPIC: Universal sports cycling coverage is just fabulous!!! Todd "Gogo"
Gogulski.... Todd "Gaygay" Gogulski ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/c118c0dceffed994?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, May 18 2011 6:22 am
From: Fred Bucephalus Birchmore
On May 17, 11:54 pm, raamman <raam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 16, 9:32 am, Choppy Warburton <choppywarbur...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Just sayin...
>
> why ? you want to hook up with him ?
My gaydar says flaming
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TOPIC: so you want to be a pro?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/833bd784841dfab4?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, May 18 2011 7:33 am
From: "Steve Freides"
Michael Press wrote:
> I expect riders attack about as much as they can get away with,
> and without burning more energy than it is worth.
Right, but that's my question - did he get away with what he did because
he was an unknown? My suspicion is that another rider of his abilities
having an equally good day (I know ...) might not have been allowed to
do it because at least some of the peleton would have reacted stronger,
sooner.
-S-
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, May 18 2011 9:36 am
From: Ryan Cousineau
On Tuesday, 17 May 2011 13:47:49 UTC-7, Scott wrote:
> On May 17, 10:02 am, "Steve Freides" <st...@kbnj.com> wrote:
> > Michael Press wrote:
> > > In article <93f9ue...@mid.individual.net>,
> > > "Steve Freides" <st...@kbnj.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> Scott wrote:
> > >>> I'm always amazed by the folks who plug away their entire 20's,
> > >>> chasing that elusive pro contract, thinking that if they just get
> > >>> that one opportunity they'll make it big.
> > >>> Here's a case of what happens when you actually have the goods:
> >
> > >>>http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/05/news/who-is-giro-stage-winner-...
> >
> > >>> Discuss amongst yourselves.
> You guys are focused on the wrong aspect of the story. It's not that
> he won, but rather someone noticed his obvious talent and brought him
> up through a development system. He didn' spend years sleeping in his
> Yugo and eating pb&j waiting for the big break that was never going to
> come.
Are we supposed to be happy for him??
De Clerq, by winning a stage at the Giro, has all but guaranteed himself a good five years of serious, FIVE-figure employment (in Euros!) that will prepare him for such exciting and lucrative careers as...bike mechanic! Or...cycling coach! He's so cool.
It's good that he's living the dream. It's better that he didn't interrupt his studies to do so. I am just taking this moment of young(ish) Bart's success to piss from a height upon it, because I still don't believe pro cycling is much more professional than pro wrestling.
To put it another way, pro cycling is a fun hobby, but it should give you pause to consider how quickly pro peloton salaries converge with Europe-league basketball player salaries.
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, May 18 2011 9:47 am
From: Ben Trovato
On May 18, 9:36 am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, 17 May 2011 13:47:49 UTC-7, Scott wrote:
> > On May 17, 10:02 am, "Steve Freides" <st...@kbnj.com> wrote:
> > > Michael Press wrote:
> > > > In article <93f9ue...@mid.individual.net>,
> > > > "Steve Freides" <st...@kbnj.com> wrote:
>
> > > >> Scott wrote:
> > > >>> I'm always amazed by the folks who plug away their entire 20's,
> > > >>> chasing that elusive pro contract, thinking that if they just get
> > > >>> that one opportunity they'll make it big.
> > > >>> Here's a case of what happens when you actually have the goods:
>
> > > >>>http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/05/news/who-is-giro-stage-winner-...
>
> > > >>> Discuss amongst yourselves.
> > You guys are focused on the wrong aspect of the story. It's not that
> > he won, but rather someone noticed his obvious talent and brought him
> > up through a development system. He didn' spend years sleeping in his
> > Yugo and eating pb&j waiting for the big break that was never going to
> > come.
>
> Are we supposed to be happy for him??
>
> De Clerq, by winning a stage at the Giro, has all but guaranteed himself a good five years of serious, FIVE-figure employment (in Euros!) that will prepare him for such exciting and lucrative careers as...bike mechanic! Or...cycling coach! He's so cool.
>
> It's good that he's living the dream. It's better that he didn't interrupt his studies to do so. I am just taking this moment of young(ish) Bart's success to piss from a height upon it, because I still don't believe pro cycling is much more professional than pro wrestling.
>
> To put it another way, pro cycling is a fun hobby, but it should give you pause to consider how quickly pro peloton salaries converge with Europe-league basketball player salaries.
Well, young Bart apparently did get his university degree, in physical
education and kinesiology; so maybe he can have a future chasing
cougars in a fitness center. Or... cycling coach. But for now, he's
out there showing that an indifferent high-school xc runner prone to
injury can get paid for riding a bike with the best of them...
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, May 18 2011 12:29 pm
From: Scott
On May 18, 10:36 am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, 17 May 2011 13:47:49 UTC-7, Scott wrote:
> > On May 17, 10:02 am, "Steve Freides" <st...@kbnj.com> wrote:
> > > Michael Press wrote:
> > > > In article <93f9ue...@mid.individual.net>,
> > > > "Steve Freides" <st...@kbnj.com> wrote:
>
> > > >> Scott wrote:
> > > >>> I'm always amazed by the folks who plug away their entire 20's,
> > > >>> chasing that elusive pro contract, thinking that if they just get
> > > >>> that one opportunity they'll make it big.
> > > >>> Here's a case of what happens when you actually have the goods:
>
> > > >>>http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/05/news/who-is-giro-stage-winner-...
>
> > > >>> Discuss amongst yourselves.
> > You guys are focused on the wrong aspect of the story. It's not that
> > he won, but rather someone noticed his obvious talent and brought him
> > up through a development system. He didn' spend years sleeping in his
> > Yugo and eating pb&j waiting for the big break that was never going to
> > come.
>
> Are we supposed to be happy for him??
>
> De Clerq, by winning a stage at the Giro, has all but guaranteed himself a good five years of serious, FIVE-figure employment (in Euros!) that will prepare him for such exciting and lucrative careers as...bike mechanic! Or...cycling coach! He's so cool.
>
> It's good that he's living the dream. It's better that he didn't interrupt his studies to do so. I am just taking this moment of young(ish) Bart's success to piss from a height upon it, because I still don't believe pro cycling is much more professional than pro wrestling.
>
> To put it another way, pro cycling is a fun hobby, but it should give you pause to consider how quickly pro peloton salaries converge with Europe-league basketball player salaries.
Again, focused on the wrong point. DeClerq is only relevant as a
counter-example to the Yugo driving, pb&j eating, and often doping no-
hopers. For those guys, they should accept that if they are not being
sought out at a relatively young age, it is not in the cards. Not
saying to quit racing, just face reality.
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TOPIC: RIP: Weylandt Funeral
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/ae99a88930fc3d9b?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, May 18 2011 7:43 am
From: Davey Crockett
This link may, or may not take you to the right video as I suspect they
rotate them or something like.
If you don't get the right one, click to open ANY of the offered vids,
then scroll down on the right to Wouter
The site is (mostly) in English
http://www.deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws.english/mediatheek_en/1.1025872?HKEY=072A96EC4E4A811B7F4D502CE51014E4
--
Davey Crockett
Flying the Flag of the English
The Flag of Hengest and Horsa
http://usera.imagecave.com/daveycrockett/englishdragon.jpg
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TOPIC: Free the Tasmanian 1600!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/cf1a76043a9fc248?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, May 18 2011 9:24 am
From: Ryan Cousineau
LIVEDRUNK is saddened to inform you that the authorities, in a "hardline crackdown" have arrested 1600 political prisoners:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110515/wl_asia_afp/australiaalcoholpolicecrime_20110515092921;_ylt=As0edE1GalO7oE605zTDY9kk5I94;_ylu=X3oDMTNhYnQ3a2NlBGFzc2V0A2FmcC8yMDExMDUxNS9hdXN0cmFsaWFhbGNvaG9scG9saWNlY3JpbWUEY2NvZGUDZ21wZQRjcG9zAzIEcG9zAzIEc2VjA3luX3RvcF9zdG9yaWVzBHNsawNhdXN0cmFsaWFhcnI-
"Chaos and mayhem" is what the strongmen in power say they're protecting Australia from, but we know they're really protecting themselves from the awesome, unleashed force of Drunk Power.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, May 18 2011 10:58 am
From: RicodJour
On May 18, 12:24 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> LIVEDRUNK is saddened to inform you that the authorities, in a "hardline crackdown" have arrested 1600 political prisoners:
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110515/wl_asia_afp/australiaalcoholpoli...
>
> "Chaos and mayhem" is what the strongmen in power say they're protecting Australia from, but we know they're really protecting themselves from the awesome, unleashed force of Drunk Power.
I was on vacation a few years back and became friendly with a
Tasmanian couple and some other assorted Australians. They had some
rather vivid recollections of drunken raucousness to recount. If the
Australians were better in soccer, and didn't have to go so far,
they'd give the Euro hooligans a run for their money. Or beer. But
there'd be a run.
R
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, May 18 2011 3:55 pm
From: Anton Berlin
On May 18, 11:24 am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
> LIVEDRUNK is saddened to inform you that the authorities, in a "hardline crackdown" have arrested 1600 political prisoners:
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110515/wl_asia_afp/australiaalcoholpoli...
>
> "Chaos and mayhem" is what the strongmen in power say they're protecting Australia from, but we know they're really protecting themselves from the awesome, unleashed force of Drunk Power.
The southern cross flies upside down in Kings Cross tonight.
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TOPIC: Le Gamin au Velo - finally a cycling film to erase the memory of
Quicksilver.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/6d8b905d16a55973?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, May 18 2011 9:39 am
From: Ryan Cousineau
Ryan Cousineau Likes This.
(Dangit, when is Usenet going to add a "Like" button? It's the 21st Century, People!!!)
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, May 18 2011 11:06 am
From: Frederick the Great
In article
<1cf7d9e1-941f-4474-8f3f-c0de2b1f2d96@glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com
>,
Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ryan Cousineau Likes This.
>
> (Dangit, when is Usenet going to add a "Like" button? It's the 21st Century, People!!!)
gargle gropes napalmed their interface again.
Your message appeared without quoted material
AND WITHOUT A REFERENCES HEADER LINE. You are
some kind of IT professional? You are capable
of putting together a conforming usenet message?
Or do you mean to be a dupe of grumble goop's
program to piss on usenet?
--
Old Fritz
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, May 18 2011 11:54 am
From: Ryan Cousineau
Basically, I do it to piss off old farts. Same reason I'm posting this TOFU-style (Text Over, Fullquote-Under). ETERNAL SEPTEMBER!
-RjC, observing Usenet conventions in the breach since 1992.
On Wednesday, 18 May 2011 11:06:33 UTC-7, Frederick the Great wrote:
> In article
> <1cf7d9e1-941f-4474...@glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com
> >,
> Ryan Cousineau <rcou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Ryan Cousineau Likes This.
> >
> > (Dangit, when is Usenet going to add a "Like" button? It's the 21st Century, People!!!)
>
> gargle gropes napalmed their interface again.
> Your message appeared without quoted material
> AND WITHOUT A REFERENCES HEADER LINE. You are
> some kind of IT professional? You are capable
> of putting together a conforming usenet message?
> Or do you mean to be a dupe of grumble goop's
> program to piss on usenet?
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, May 18 2011 2:29 pm
From: Frederick the Great
In article
<543a2550-b587-49ac-9ce3-9a5ad50db7b7@glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com
>,
Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, 18 May 2011 11:06:33 UTC-7, Frederick the Great wrote:
> > In article
> > <1cf7d9e1-941f-4474...@glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com
> > >,
> > Ryan Cousineau <rcou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Ryan Cousineau Likes This.
> > >
> > > (Dangit, when is Usenet going to add a "Like" button? It's the 21st Century, People!!!)
> >
> > gargle gropes napalmed their interface again.
> > Your message appeared without quoted material
> > AND WITHOUT A REFERENCES HEADER LINE. You are
> > some kind of IT professional? You are capable
> > of putting together a conforming usenet message?
> > Or do you mean to be a dupe of grumble goop's
> > program to piss on usenet?
>
> Basically, I do it to piss off old farts. Same reason I'm posting this TOFU-style (Text Over, Fullquote-Under). ETERNAL SEPTEMBER!
>
> -RjC, observing Usenet conventions in the breach since 1992.
A Reference header line is not a convention,
it is the law. You could look it up.
Still rebelling against your parents, eh?
--
Old Fritz
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, May 18 2011 4:00 pm
From: RicodJour
On May 18, 5:29 pm, Frederick the Great <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 18 May 2011 11:06:33 UTC-7, Frederick the Great wrote:
> > > In article Ryan Cousineau <rcou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Ryan Cousineau Likes This.
>
> > > > (Dangit, when is Usenet going to add a "Like" button? It's the 21st Century, People!!!)
>
> > > gargle gropes napalmed their interface again.
> > > Your message appeared without quoted material
> > > AND WITHOUT A REFERENCES HEADER LINE. You are
> > > some kind of IT professional? You are capable
> > > of putting together a conforming usenet message?
> > > Or do you mean to be a dupe of grumble goop's
> > > program to piss on usenet?
>
> > Basically, I do it to piss off old farts. Same reason I'm posting this TOFU-style (Text Over, Fullquote-Under). ETERNAL SEPTEMBER!
>
> > -RjC, observing Usenet conventions in the breach since 1992.
>
> A Reference header line is not a convention,
RBR has conventions? I imagine they would be held in a Motel 6 in
Reno or maybe Detroit, and most of the hookers would be transvestites.
R
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TOPIC: Giro d'Italia, stage 11 summary
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/94381ad7a743a350?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, May 18 2011 11:50 am
From: Bob Martin
Stage 11 : May 18, Tortoreto - Castelfidardo, 142 km
1 John Gadret (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale 3.33.11
2 Joaquim Rodriguez Oliver (Spa) Katusha Team
3 Giovanni Visconti (Ita) Farnese Vini - Neri Sottoli
4 Jose Rodolfo Serpa Perez (Col) Androni Giocattoli
5 Alberto Contador Velasco (Spa) Saxo Bank Sungard
6 Roman Kreuziger (Cze) Pro Team Astana
7 Dario Cataldo (Ita) Quickstep Cycling Team
8 Michele Scarponi (Ita) Lampre - ISD
9 Pablo Lastras Garcia (Spa) Movistar Team
10 Vincenzo Nibali (Ita) Liquigas-Cannondale
Changes in GC, stage 11 compared to stage 10 :
Biggest gainers by position :
+25 Juan Jose Oroz Ugalde
+24 Gianluca Brambilla
+21 Ruggero Marzoli
+21 Rinaldo Nocentini
+21 Ignatas Konovalovas
+19 Pavel Brutt
+18 Stef Clement
+18 Simon Spilak
+18 Dmitry Kozontchouk
+16 Jussi Veikkanen
Biggest losers by position :
-21 David Blanco Rodriguez
-21 Robert Kiserlovski
-19 Luca Mazzanti
-19 Martin Kohler
-18 Gerald Ciolek
-18 Jan Bakelants
-18 Maxim Belkov
-17 Sergey Lagutin
-16 Alberto Ongarato
-16 Kristof Vandewalle
-16 Michal Golas
Biggest gainers by time :
+0:20 John Gadret
+0:12 JoaquAm RodrAguez Oliver
+0:08 Giovanni Visconti
Biggest losers by time :
-15:30 Francesco Chicchi
-15:30 Manuel Belletti
-15:28 Elia Favilli
-15:28 Russell Downing
-15:23 Leonardo Giordani
-15:10 Alberto Ongarato
-15:10 Alex Rasmussen
-15:10 Alexander Kristoff
-15:10 Bjorn Selander
-15:10 Brett Lancaster
-15:10 Chad Beyer
Favourites by position :
+4 Denis Menchov
+3 Daniel Moreno Fernandez
+2 Thomas Lovkvist
+2 Carlos Sastre Candil
+1 Vincenzo Nibali
-1 Danilo Di Luca
-5 Richie Porte
-6 Frantisek Rabon
-7 Lars Ytting Bak
Favourites by time :
-0:05 Daniel Moreno Fernandez
-0:13 Thomas Lovkvist
-0:13 Carlos Sastre Candil
-3:34 Danilo Di Luca
-10:47 Richie Porte
-15:10 Lars Ytting Bak
-15:10 Frantisek Rabon
Top 10 and favourites GC standings (previous stage in parens) :
1 Alberto Contador Velasco 40:37:51 (unchanged)
2 Kanstantsin Siutsou 0:59 (unchanged)
3 Vincenzo Nibali 1:21 (was 4th at 1:21)
4 Christophe Le Mevel 1:28 (was 3rd at 1:19)
5 Michele Scarponi 1:28 (unchanged)
6 David Arroyo Duran 1:37 (unchanged)
7 Roman Kreuziger 1:41 (unchanged)
8 Jose Rodolfo Serpa Perez 1:47 (unchanged)
9 Dario Cataldo 2:21 (unchanged)
10 Matteo Carrara 2:21 (unchanged)
.....
13 Stefano Garzelli 2:39 (unchanged)
.....
16 Denis Menchov 3:18 (was 20th at 3:18)
.....
19 Thomas Lovkvist 3:40 (was 21st at 3:27)
.....
24 Carlos Sastre Candil 5:10 (was 26th at 4:57)
.....
36 Daniel Moreno Fernandez 14:21 (was 39th at 14:16)
.....
72 Danilo Di Luca 38:39 (was 71st at 35:05)
.....
105 Richie Porte 59:20 (was 100th at 48:33)
.....
142 Lars Ytting Bak 1:15:29 (was 135th at 1:00:19)
.....
167 Frantisek Rabon 1:28:14 (was 161st at 1:13:04)
Top 10 on Points table with previous in parens:
1 Jan Bakelants 12 (unchanged)
2 Pablo Lastras Garcia 5 (unchanged)
3 Daniel Moreno Fernandez 5 (was 0 points)
4 Matteo Montaguti 5 (was 3rd with 5 points)
5 Fumiyuki Beppu 5 (was 4th with 5 points)
6 Sebastian Lang 5 (was 5th with 5 points)
7 Martin Kohler 5 (was 6th with 5 points)
8 Kristof Vandewalle 5 (was 7th with 5 points)
9 Mirko Selvaggi 5 (was 8th with 5 points)
10 Matteo Tosatto 5 (was 9th with 5 points)
Top 10 on Mountains table with previous in parens:
1 Filippo Savini 16 (unchanged)
2 Alberto Contador Velasco 15 (unchanged)
3 Bart De Clercq 11 (unchanged)
4 Martin Kohler 10 (unchanged)
5 Federico Canuti 9 (unchanged)
6 Jose Rujano Guillen 9 (unchanged)
7 Valerio Agnoli 9 (was 23rd with 2 points)
8 Mathias Frank 9 (was 7th with 9 points)
9 Gianluca Brambilla 8 (was 8th with 8 points)
10 Roman Kreuziger 8 (was 9th with 8 points)
Retirements to date : Stage
Borut Bozic (Slo) Vacansoleil-DCM Pro Cycling Team 11 <<<
Danilo Napolitano (Ita) Acqua & Sapone 11 <<<
Adam Blyth (GBr) Omega Pharma-Lotto 10
Chris Butler (USA) BMC Racing Team 9
Graeme Brown (Aus) Rabobank Cycling Team 9
Jackson Rodriguez (Ven) Androni Giocattoli 9
Robbie McEwen (Aus) Team RadioShack 9
Fabio Andres Duarte Arevalo (Col) Geox-TMC 8
Brice Feillu (Fra) Leopard Trek 5
Bruno Pires (Por) Leopard Trek 5
Chris Barton (USA) BMC Racing Team 5
Davide ViganA² (Ita) Leopard Trek 5
Dominic Klemme (Ger) Leopard Trek 5
Fabian Wegmann (Ger) Leopard Trek 5
Francesco Failli (Ita) Farnese Vini - Neri Sottoli 5
Oliver Zaugg (Swi) Leopard Trek 5
Thomas Rohregger (Aut) Leopard Trek 5
Tom Slagter (Ned) Rabobank Cycling Team 5
Tom Stamsnijder (Ned) Leopard Trek 5
Tyler Farrar (USA) Team Garmin-Cervelo 5
Wouter Weylandt (Bel) Leopard Trek 3
Total retirements : 21
(This report can also be seen at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rvmartin2)
== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, May 18 2011 1:08 pm
From: Simply Fred
Bob Martin wrote:
> 1 John Gadret (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale 3.33.11
> 2 Joaquim Rodriguez Oliver (Spa) Katusha Team
> 3 Giovanni Visconti (Ita) Farnese Vini - Neri Sottoli
> 4 Jose Rodolfo Serpa Perez (Col) Androni Giocattoli
> 5 Alberto Contador Velasco (Spa) Saxo Bank Sungard
> 6 Roman Kreuziger (Cze) Pro Team Astana
> 7 Dario Cataldo (Ita) Quickstep Cycling Team
> 8 Michele Scarponi (Ita) Lampre - ISD
> 9 Pablo Lastras Garcia (Spa) Movistar Team
> 10 Vincenzo Nibali (Ita) Liquigas-Cannondale
Moreno almost did a De-Clercq.
== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, May 18 2011 2:01 pm
From: "Fred on a stick"
Simply Fred wrote:
> Bob Martin wrote:
>> 1 John Gadret (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale
>> 3.33.11 2 Joaquim Rodriguez Oliver (Spa) Katusha Team
>> 3 Giovanni Visconti (Ita) Farnese Vini - Neri Sottoli
>> 4 Jose Rodolfo Serpa Perez (Col) Androni Giocattoli
>> 5 Alberto Contador Velasco (Spa) Saxo Bank Sungard
>> 6 Roman Kreuziger (Cze) Pro Team Astana
>> 7 Dario Cataldo (Ita) Quickstep Cycling Team
>> 8 Michele Scarponi (Ita) Lampre - ISD
>> 9 Pablo Lastras Garcia (Spa) Movistar Team
>> 10 Vincenzo Nibali (Ita) Liquigas-Cannondale
>
> Moreno almost did a De-Clercq.
Le Mevel spent all day out in the break and ended up losing time.
I dislike Gadret.
== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, May 18 2011 2:41 pm
From: Frederick the Great
In article <3yUAp.5184$m_1.3985@newsfe22.ams2>,
Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> wrote:
>
> Stage 11 : May 18, Tortoreto - Castelfidardo, 142 km
>
> 1 John Gadret (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale 3.33.11
> 2 Joaquim Rodriguez Oliver (Spa) Katusha Team
> 3 Giovanni Visconti (Ita) Farnese Vini - Neri Sottoli
> 4 Jose Rodolfo Serpa Perez (Col) Androni Giocattoli
> 5 Alberto Contador Velasco (Spa) Saxo Bank Sungard
> 6 Roman Kreuziger (Cze) Pro Team Astana
> 7 Dario Cataldo (Ita) Quickstep Cycling Team
> 8 Michele Scarponi (Ita) Lampre - ISD
> 9 Pablo Lastras Garcia (Spa) Movistar Team
> 10 Vincenzo Nibali (Ita) Liquigas-Cannondale
Contador hinted that he did not want the Maglia Rosa
so early and was planning to give it up. Looking at
the stage profiles, the stages that end on a climb,
his effort today, and the way he has been gobbling
up time, I bet he wears it all the way to Milano.
--
Old Fritz
== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, May 18 2011 2:44 pm
From: Frederick the Great
In article <ir1c48$pph$1@dont-email.me>,
"Fred on a stick" <anonymous.coward@address.invalid> wrote:
> Simply Fred wrote:
> > Bob Martin wrote:
> >> 1 John Gadret (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale
> >> 3.33.11 2 Joaquim Rodriguez Oliver (Spa) Katusha Team
> >> 3 Giovanni Visconti (Ita) Farnese Vini - Neri Sottoli
> >> 4 Jose Rodolfo Serpa Perez (Col) Androni Giocattoli
> >> 5 Alberto Contador Velasco (Spa) Saxo Bank Sungard
> >> 6 Roman Kreuziger (Cze) Pro Team Astana
> >> 7 Dario Cataldo (Ita) Quickstep Cycling Team
> >> 8 Michele Scarponi (Ita) Lampre - ISD
> >> 9 Pablo Lastras Garcia (Spa) Movistar Team
> >> 10 Vincenzo Nibali (Ita) Liquigas-Cannondale
> >
> > Moreno almost did a De-Clercq.
>
> Le Mevel spent all day out in the break and ended up losing time.
Yes. That's a hoot. Teasing Contador, then coming up way short.
> I dislike Gadret.
Is it something he did?
--
Old Fritz
== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, May 18 2011 4:04 pm
From: "Fred on a stick"
Frederick the Great wrote:
>> I dislike Gadret.
>
> Is it something he did?
Something he didn't do; and then something he did. On stage 15 of last
year's TdF:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/roche-furious-at-gadret-for-not-helping-with-tyre
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TOPIC: Byron Sonne - Bail tomorrow
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, May 18 2011 3:33 pm
From: Davey Crockett
RicodJour a écrit profondement:
| There's plenty to idolize and demonize in this world. Like the old
| woman said, "You to your fancy, and me to my Nancy." as she kissed the
| cow.
>
| As long as you're enjoying life, and not trying too hard to interfere
| with people enjoying theirs, I'm good with it.
>
| BTW, Lance and Alberto barely register on my Richter. I like the more
| obscure young and up-coming, and old and still kicking riders better.
>
Well Davey just keeps plodding along, Comforting the Afflicted and
Afflicting the Comfortable Wankerz
--
Davey Crockett
Flying the Flag of the English
The Flag of Hengest and Horsa
http://usera.imagecave.com/daveycrockett/englishdragon.jpg
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, May 18 2011 3:55 pm
From: RicodJour
On May 18, 12:37 am, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
>
> BTW, Lance and Alberto barely register on my Richter. I like the more
> obscure young and up-coming, and old and still kicking riders better.
Like Chris Horner. Woot!
R
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TOPIC: showing his true promise
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/da41da87d899bd65?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, May 18 2011 3:59 pm
From: Scott
Any day now, we'll see TD demonstrate his true talent, that which has
been expected of him all this time...
GC after stage 4
1. Chris Horner (RadioShack)
2. Levi Leipheimer (RadioShack) at 1:15
3. Tom Danielson (Garmin-Cervelo) at 1:22
He'll be in the leader's jersey before we know it.
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TOPIC: As Petacchi sprinted down the final 100 meters today I realized than no
man can escape
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/32a25258b07dea50?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, May 18 2011 4:05 pm
From: Anton Berlin
I wonder if the Pope or Dalai Lama has a better collection.
Jesus would probably have a huge collection - he could just conjure
porn out of thin air like loaves of bread and fish or would he need 7
youporn mpegs to start with ?
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