Sunday, May 29, 2011

Medarticles Reg: Need full text articles.

Buzz It
Dear Sir/Friends

Am in need of full text articles for the below mentioned references.
Please upload here also.

Thanks & regards
Sudheer J. (MANJU).

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Aslam SN, Stevenson PC, Kokubun T, Hall DR. Antibacterial and
antifungal activity of cicerfuran and related 2-arylbenzofurans and
stilbenes. Microbiol Res. 2009;164(2):191-5.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B7GJ8-4NDVGXX-3&_user=4532493&_coverDate=12%2F31%2F2009&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_searchStrId=1428396433&_rerunOrigin=google&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=4532493&md5=a7e83ad2c586047380ac314f9a2c5f63

doi:10.1016/j.micres.2006.11.012

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Clemente A, Vioque J, Sanchez-Vioque R, Pedroche J, Millán F.
Production of extensive chickpea (Cicer arietinum L.) protein
hydrolysates with reduced antigenic activity. J Agric Food Chem. 1999
Sep;47(9):3776-81.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed

PMID: 10552721

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jf981315p

DOI: 10.1021/jf981315p

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19481595
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Datta K, Singh AT, Mukherjee A, Bhat B, Ramesh B, Burman AC. Eclipta
alba extract with potential for hair growth promoting activity. J
Ethnopharmacol. 2009 Jul 30;124(3):450-6.

PMID: 19481595

http://www.biomedsearch.com/nih/Eclipta-alba-extract-with-potential/19481595.html

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6T8D-4WD1C08-2&_user=4532493&_coverDate=07%2F30%2F2009&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_searchStrId=1428366539&_rerunOrigin=google&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=4532493&md5=837aeb542b0be57c7b6f48e8a3e9a678
doi:10.1016/j.jep.2009.05.023
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

--
You can edit your Group Email settings by visiting the following link.

http://groups.google.com/group/medarticles/subscribe

You can choose abridged email or digest email so that you will receive only one email per day.

Medarticles Requesting for the 4th time (Same articles), please help.

Buzz It
Dear Friends;

I am in need of full text articles. Please upload here also. These
articles are very much needed by.

Regards.

Sudheer J. (MANJU)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Okpanyi SN, Ezeukwu GC. Anti-inflammatory and antipyretic activities
of Azadirachta indica. Planta Med. 1981 Jan;41(1):34-9.
DOI: 10.1055/s-2007-971670
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6972048
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Patel VK, Venkatakrishna-Bhatt H. Folklore therapeutic indigenous
plants in periodontal disorders in India (review, experimental and
clinical approach). Int J Clin Pharmacol Ther Toxicol. 1988 Apr;
26(4):
176-184.
PMID: 3042642 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3042642
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sastravaha G, Gassmann G, Sangtherapitikul P, Grimm WD. Adjunctive
periodontal treatment with Centella asiatica and Punica granatum
extracts in supportive periodontal therapy. J Int Acad Periodontol.
2005;7(3):70-79.
PMID: 16022023 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=Adjunctive%20periodontal%20tr...
http://www.biomedsearch.com/nih/Adjunctive-periodontal-treatment-with...
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Clark DT, Gazi MI, Cox SW, Eley BM, Tinsley GF. The effects of Acacia
arabica gum on the in vitro growth and protease activities of
periodontopathic bacteria. J Clin Periodontol. 1993;20(4):238-243.
DOI: 10.1111/j.1600-051X.1993.tb00351.x
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1600-051X.1993.tb00351.x...
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gazi MI. The finding of antiplaque features in Acacia Arabica type of
chewing gum. J Clin Periodontol. 1991 Jan;18(1):75-77.
DOI: 10.1111/j.1600-051X.1991.tb01123.x
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1600-051X.1991.tb01123.x...
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

--
You can edit your Group Email settings by visiting the following link.

http://groups.google.com/group/medarticles/subscribe

You can choose abridged email or digest email so that you will receive only one email per day.

Re: Medarticles Please, I need some papers from Cephalalgia

Buzz It
Thank you very much Murillo

Best wishes

Francisco

2011/5/29 Murillo Santucci Cesar de Assunção <murilloassuncao@gmail.com>:
> All three are enclosed!!
>
>
> Em 29/05/2011, às 17:14, FJC2007 escreveu:
>
>> Dear Sirs
>>
>> Please, I need the next papers:
>>
>> 1) "The non-hallucinogen 2-bromo-lysergic acid diethylamide as
>> preventative treatment for cluster headache: An open, non-randomized
>> case series"
>> Matthias Karst, John H Halpern, Michael Bernateck and Torsten Passie
>> Cephalalgia
>> September 2010 vol. 30 no. 9 pp 1140-1144
>> DOI: 10.1177/0333102410363490
>>
>> Link: http://cep.sagepub.com/content/30/9/1140.extract
>>
>> 2) "Is BOL-148 hallucinogenic?"
>> Peer Tfelt-Hansen
>> Cephalalgia
>> April 2011 vol. 31 no. 5 pp 634
>> DOI:  10.1177/0333102410392069
>>
>> Link:  http://cep.sagepub.com/content/31/5/634.extract
>>
>> 3) "Response to Tfelt-Hansen P: Is BOL-148 hallucinogenic?"
>> Matthias Karst, John H Halpern, Michael Bernateck and Torsten Passie
>> Cephalalgia
>> April 2011 vol. 31 no. 5 pp 635-636
>> DOI: 10.1177/0333102410392074
>>
>> Link: http://cep.sagepub.com/content/31/5/635.extract
>>
>> Thank you very much
>>
>> FJ
>>
>> --
>> You can edit your Group Email settings by visiting the following link.
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/medarticles/subscribe
>>
>> You can choose abridged email or digest email so that you will receive only one email per day.
>
> Murillo Santucci Cesar de Assunção
> Unidade de Terapia Intensiva adulto
> Disciplina de Anestesiologia, Dor e Terapia Intensiva
> Escola Paulista de Medicina
> Rua Napoleão de Barros,715
> Vila Clementino - São Paulo - CEP: 04024-002
> Tel/Fax: +55-11-55757768
> Tel/Fax: +55-11- 55764069
> m.assuncao@unifesp.br
> murilloassuncao@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
> --
> You can edit your Group Email settings by visiting the following link.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/medarticles/subscribe
>
> You can choose abridged email or digest email so that you will receive only one email per day.
>

--
You can edit your Group Email settings by visiting the following link.

http://groups.google.com/group/medarticles/subscribe

You can choose abridged email or digest email so that you will receive only one email per day.

rec.bicycles.racing - 25 new messages in 8 topics - digest

Buzz It
rec.bicycles.racing
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing?hl=en

rec.bicycles.racing@googlegroups.com

Today's topics:

* Twelve Posties Have Testified - 6 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/27cf3fd4a0fa1390?hl=en
* Old guys, Classic races - 6 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/5673eacc51ffc414?hl=en
* What crime has LA been INDICTED for - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/5fa68f29710dcb4e?hl=en
* Why would someone that tested clean 500 times need attorneys such as these? -
6 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/c30539db138ece33?hl=en
* Giro Review - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/5229bc0beec82e09?hl=en
* Context for TdS debacle - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/9ed72fd9cc6036a9?hl=en
* Giro d'Italia, stage 21 summary - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/cea37f68aafcbbe2?hl=en
* Giro d'Italia, stage 19 summary - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/9299488aaba26377?hl=en

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Twelve Posties Have Testified
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/27cf3fd4a0fa1390?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, May 28 2011 11:29 pm
From: Fredmaster of Brainerd


On May 28, 8:12 am, BL <b...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On 5/27/2011 11:07 PM, Fredmaster of Brainerd wrote:
>
> > The statement has to be material.  What is material
> > is open to interpretation by prosecutors, judge, jury.
>
> > I doubt that I would get indicted for saying I had a
> > turkey sandwich for lunch when it was really pork,
> > unless the trial was about sandwiches.
>
> Most questions asked of Grand Jury witnesses are material. But, you are
> correct that is has to be a material misstatement of fact, also
> knowingly made.

If Armstrong is caught in a lie to the grand jury
then he is up shit creek without a pedal. However,
I imagine that he got extensive legal advice about
what he could say, and it was obvious that his former
teammates would be called to testify. If he really
is in danger of a perjury charged based on his grand
jury testimony then his legal counsel is as incompetent
as you have been wishing.

A more likely issue is whether he is exposed to a perjury
charge based on his deposition in the SCA insurance case.
There, I believe Flintstein's position is that since ultimately
that case had nothing to do with doping (the case went
against SCA regardless since there was no anti-doping
clause in the contract), Armstrong's testimony about doping
would be immaterial.

I suppose one could go either way on this. It turned out to
be irrelevant, but was it immaterial? Does it matter that the
determination of irrelevancy came afterwards? I don't know
enough law or precedent to say. I also don't even remember
exactly what Armstrong said (or really care).

My recollection is that lawyers have extremely wide latitude
in questions they can ask in depositions, and although
objections are allowed, most questions still have to be answered
(even if the deposed answers are disallowed later).

For an extreme example, suppose the SCA lawyers had asked
Armstrong some embarrassing question, like "Have you
stopped beating your wife?" or "Have you ever dated a
woman who doesn't look like your mom?" He might have
had to answer (unless he asserted a privilege against
incrimination, although dating women who look like your
mom isn't criminal unless they are underage). But if he said
"Yes" and the answer is "No," it's unlikely he'd ever get brought
up on a perjury charge over it.

> > When are you going to answer my question about why
> > you keep saying Ochowicz is in legal danger and will rat out
> > Armstrong, given that Ochowicz was never involved with
> > Tailwind Sports?  Not that I care about Ochowicz's skin.
> > I'm just trying to assess the credibility of the witness here.
>
> I suggest that you do a search of Ochawitz relationship to Weisel and
> Weisel's involvement in professional cycling. And that's all I'm going
> to tell you pre-indictment.

Oh, I know Ochowicz worked for Weisel and that Weisel's
tentacles are all over US pro cycling. I just have never seen
any shred of evidence that Ochowicz had an involvement
with Tailwind or US Postal. During that timeframe he was
involved with Phonak and BMC, IIRC. So I doubt he's gonna
have any exposure in the USPS fraud investigation.

If you won't say anything pre-indictment, and Och never gets
indicted or called to testify, what are you going to say and
when will you justify your assertions? Or will those statements
simply be no longer operative?

Fredmaster Ben


== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, May 29 2011 4:00 am
From: "A. Dumas"


Juan Gunderson wrote:
> You are a full metal retard.

Hi Floyd or one his 1000 chamois-sniffing Twitter followers.


== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, May 29 2011 4:38 am
From: Simply Fred


Juan Gunderson wrote:
>> You are a full metal retard.

A. Dumas wrote:
> Hi Floyd or one his 1000 chamois-sniffing Twitter followers.

He's (Landis) has got a long way to go to catch up with Charlie Sheen.
Perhaps he needs more tutoring in how to sound completely nuts in public.


== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, May 29 2011 7:22 am
From: BL


On 5/29/2011 2:29 AM, Fredmaster of Brainerd wrote:
> On May 28, 8:12 am, BL<b...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> On 5/27/2011 11:07 PM, Fredmaster of Brainerd wrote:
>>
>>> The statement has to be material. What is material
>>> is open to interpretation by prosecutors, judge, jury.
>>
>>> I doubt that I would get indicted for saying I had a
>>> turkey sandwich for lunch when it was really pork,
>>> unless the trial was about sandwiches.
>>
>> Most questions asked of Grand Jury witnesses are material. But, you are
>> correct that is has to be a material misstatement of fact, also
>> knowingly made.
>
> If Armstrong is caught in a lie to the grand jury
> then he is up shit creek without a pedal. However,
> I imagine that he got extensive legal advice about
> what he could say, and it was obvious that his former
> teammates would be called to testify. If he really
> is in danger of a perjury charged based on his grand
> jury testimony then his legal counsel is as incompetent
> as you have been wishing.

If Armstrong has been or is called before the Grand Jury I expect he
will, or has, asserted his 5th Amendment privilege. I have never
expressed any hope that he hire incompetent counsel. Your comment is
pure hyperbole.

>
> A more likely issue is whether he is exposed to a perjury
> charge based on his deposition in the SCA insurance case.
> There, I believe Flintstein's position is that since ultimately
> that case had nothing to do with doping (the case went
> against SCA regardless since there was no anti-doping
> clause in the contract), Armstrong's testimony about doping
> would be immaterial.
>
> I suppose one could go either way on this. It turned out to
> be irrelevant, but was it immaterial? Does it matter that the
> determination of irrelevancy came afterwards? I don't know
> enough law or precedent to say. I also don't even remember
> exactly what Armstrong said (or really care).

Armstrong, under oath, testified in the SCA arbitration that he had
never used PEDs. He also disputed the Andreaus testimony as to the
hospital room incident. Those questions and answers are material and
relevant to the present investigation.

The arbitration panels determination that the arbitration decision would
go against SCA based on contract terms, really has no impact on the
relevance or materiality of what Armstrong testified to as to his
non-use of PEDs and how that testimony related to the present
investigation and a perjury charge and/or how that testimony is material
and relevant to other charges the government is considering.


>
> My recollection is that lawyers have extremely wide latitude
> in questions they can ask in depositions, and although
> objections are allowed, most questions still have to be answered
> (even if the deposed answers are disallowed later).

Armstrong testified at an arbitration hearing, not a deposition. The
rules of evidence in an arbitration can vary somewhat from those in a
judicial trial.

>
> For an extreme example, suppose the SCA lawyers had asked
> Armstrong some embarrassing question, like "Have you
> stopped beating your wife?" or "Have you ever dated a
> woman who doesn't look like your mom?" He might have
> had to answer (unless he asserted a privilege against
> incrimination, although dating women who look like your
> mom isn't criminal unless they are underage). But if he said
> "Yes" and the answer is "No," it's unlikely he'd ever get brought
> up on a perjury charge over it.

You're typing nonsense.

>
>>> When are you going to answer my question about why
>>> you keep saying Ochowicz is in legal danger and will rat out
>>> Armstrong, given that Ochowicz was never involved with
>>> Tailwind Sports? Not that I care about Ochowicz's skin.
>>> I'm just trying to assess the credibility of the witness here.
>>
>> I suggest that you do a search of Ochawitz relationship to Weisel and
>> Weisel's involvement in professional cycling. And that's all I'm going
>> to tell you pre-indictment.
>
> Oh, I know Ochowicz worked for Weisel and that Weisel's
> tentacles are all over US pro cycling. I just have never seen
> any shred of evidence that Ochowicz had an involvement
> with Tailwind or US Postal. During that timeframe he was
> involved with Phonak and BMC, IIRC. So I doubt he's gonna
> have any exposure in the USPS fraud investigation.
>
> If you won't say anything pre-indictment, and Och never gets
> indicted or called to testify, what are you going to say and
> when will you justify your assertions? Or will those statements
> simply be no longer operative?


Do your own Internet research. I have no obligation to you to rehash
what's already been discussed here and elsewhere. Be patient. We'll
have lots to discuss post-indictment.

>
> Fredmaster Ben

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, May 29 2011 10:09 am
From: Fredmaster of Brainerd


On May 29, 7:22 am, BL <b...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> If Armstrong has been or is called before the Grand Jury I expect he
> will, or has, asserted his 5th Amendment privilege.  I have never
> expressed any hope that he hire incompetent counsel.  Your comment is
> pure hyperbole.

I meant your comments about what a clown Fabiani is,
questioning Herman's strategies, and so on.

Do you read "As the Toto Turns" e.g.
http://nyvelocity.com/content/toto/2011/toto-turns-229 ?

You have to read it for a while to get any of the jokes
(like, Lance is always calling Leipheimer "Bottle").
Anyway, Fabiani is represented as Foghorn Leghorn.
Thought you would like that.

> > A more likely issue is whether he is exposed to a perjury
> > charge based on his deposition in the SCA insurance case.
> > There, I believe Flintstein's position is that since ultimately
> > that case had nothing to do with doping (the case went
> > against SCA regardless since there was no anti-doping
> > clause in the contract), Armstrong's testimony about doping
> > would be immaterial.
>
> > I suppose one could go either way on this.  It turned out to
> > be irrelevant, but was it immaterial?  Does it matter that the
> > determination of irrelevancy came afterwards?  I don't know
> > enough law or precedent to say.  I also don't even remember
> > exactly what Armstrong said (or really care).
>
> Armstrong, under oath, testified in the SCA arbitration that he had
> never used PEDs.  He also disputed the Andreaus testimony as to the
> hospital room incident.  Those questions and answers are material and
> relevant to the present investigation.
>
> The arbitration panels determination that the arbitration decision would
> go against SCA based on contract terms, really has no impact on the
> relevance or materiality of what Armstrong testified to as to his
> non-use of PEDs and how that testimony related to the present
> investigation and a perjury charge and/or how that testimony is material
> and relevant to other charges the government is considering.
>
>
>
> > My recollection is that lawyers have extremely wide latitude
> > in questions they can ask in depositions, and although
> > objections are allowed, most questions still have to be answered
> > (even if the deposed answers are disallowed later).
>
> Armstrong testified at an arbitration hearing, not a deposition. The
> rules of evidence in an arbitration can vary somewhat from those in a
> judicial trial.

IIRC, Armstrong _was_ deposed, and his deposition was used
in the arbitration hearing. I don't think he actually testified in
person at the hearing. I don't know how the rules of evidence in
that state modify what could be asked at the deposition. It's unclear
to me why Armstrong's lawyers, who hopefully read the contract
and saw that it had no anti-doping clause, allowed the SCA
lawyers to go on a fishing expedition, but perhaps they had
no choice.

> > For an extreme example, suppose the SCA lawyers had asked
> > Armstrong some embarrassing question, like "Have you
> > stopped beating your wife?" or "Have you ever dated a
> > woman who doesn't look like your mom?"  He might have
> > had to answer (unless he asserted a privilege against
> > incrimination, although dating women who look like your
> > mom isn't criminal unless they are underage).  But if he said
> > "Yes" and the answer is "No," it's unlikely he'd ever get brought
> > up on a perjury charge over it.
>
> You're typing nonsense.

It is a reductio ad absurdum. Obviously lawyers are not
supposed to go around asking irrelevant questions in
depositions just to embarrass the witness. But they can ask
questions in such a way as to fluster the witness.
I don't know how the line is drawn as to what questions
are considered permissible. In testimony in court there
is a more obvious mechanism to prevent irrelevancy.

> >>> When are you going to answer my question about why
> >>> you keep saying Ochowicz is in legal danger and will rat out
> >>> Armstrong, given that Ochowicz was never involved with
> >>> Tailwind Sports?  Not that I care about Ochowicz's skin.
> >>> I'm just trying to assess the credibility of the witness here.
>
> >> I suggest that you do a search of Ochawitz relationship to Weisel and
> >> Weisel's involvement in professional cycling. And that's all I'm going
> >> to tell you pre-indictment.
>
> > Oh, I know Ochowicz worked for Weisel and that Weisel's
> > tentacles are all over US pro cycling.  I just have never seen
> > any shred of evidence that Ochowicz had an involvement
> > with Tailwind or US Postal.  During that timeframe he was
> > involved with Phonak and BMC, IIRC.  So I doubt he's gonna
> > have any exposure in the USPS fraud investigation.
>
> > If you won't say anything pre-indictment, and Och never gets
> > indicted or called to testify, what are you going to say and
> > when will you justify your assertions?  Or will those statements
> > simply be no longer operative?
>
> Do your own Internet research.  I have no obligation to you to rehash
> what's already been discussed here and elsewhere. Be patient.  We'll
> have lots to discuss post-indictment.

"Do your own Internet research" is something people say
when they can't quickly find support for their own position
on Wikipedia.

Fredmaster Ben

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, May 29 2011 1:47 pm
From: BL


On 5/29/2011 1:09 PM, Fredmaster of Brainerd wrote:
> On May 29, 7:22 am, BL<b...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> If Armstrong has been or is called before the Grand Jury I expect he
>> will, or has, asserted his 5th Amendment privilege. I have never
>> expressed any hope that he hire incompetent counsel. Your comment is
>> pure hyperbole.
>
> I meant your comments about what a clown Fabiani is,
> questioning Herman's strategies, and so on.


No. Your statement, which you conveniently edit out, stated that I
wished Armstrong's counsel to be incompetent. I have never wished any
such thing. He has generally competent counsel. Fabiani is not one of
his trial lawyers. He's a politically connected PR hack who repeats the
party line decided on by Armstrong's other lawyers. Tim Herman is an
excellent commercial attorney. He is out of his depth as to what
Armstrong now faces. He's put his foot in his mouth on more than one
occasion. By all accounts, all of Armstrong's other counsel (criminal)
are tops in their fields as one would expect given that this is all
costing Armstrong between $3-400,000 per month.

>
> Do you read "As the Toto Turns" e.g.
> http://nyvelocity.com/content/toto/2011/toto-turns-229 ?

No.
>
> You have to read it for a while to get any of the jokes
> (like, Lance is always calling Leipheimer "Bottle").
> Anyway, Fabiani is represented as Foghorn Leghorn.
> Thought you would like that.
>
>>> A more likely issue is whether he is exposed to a perjury
>>> charge based on his deposition in the SCA insurance case.
>>> There, I believe Flintstein's position is that since ultimately
>>> that case had nothing to do with doping (the case went
>>> against SCA regardless since there was no anti-doping
>>> clause in the contract), Armstrong's testimony about doping
>>> would be immaterial.
>>
>>> I suppose one could go either way on this. It turned out to
>>> be irrelevant, but was it immaterial? Does it matter that the
>>> determination of irrelevancy came afterwards? I don't know
>>> enough law or precedent to say. I also don't even remember
>>> exactly what Armstrong said (or really care).
>>
>> Armstrong, under oath, testified in the SCA arbitration that he had
>> never used PEDs. He also disputed the Andreaus testimony as to the
>> hospital room incident. Those questions and answers are material and
>> relevant to the present investigation.
>>
>> The arbitration panels determination that the arbitration decision would
>> go against SCA based on contract terms, really has no impact on the
>> relevance or materiality of what Armstrong testified to as to his
>> non-use of PEDs and how that testimony related to the present
>> investigation and a perjury charge and/or how that testimony is material
>> and relevant to other charges the government is considering.
>>
>>
>>
>>> My recollection is that lawyers have extremely wide latitude
>>> in questions they can ask in depositions, and although
>>> objections are allowed, most questions still have to be answered
>>> (even if the deposed answers are disallowed later).
>>
>> Armstrong testified at an arbitration hearing, not a deposition. The
>> rules of evidence in an arbitration can vary somewhat from those in a
>> judicial trial.
>
> IIRC, Armstrong _was_ deposed, and his deposition was used
> in the arbitration hearing. I don't think he actually testified in
> person at the hearing. I don't know how the rules of evidence in
> that state modify what could be asked at the deposition. It's unclear
> to me why Armstrong's lawyers, who hopefully read the contract
> and saw that it had no anti-doping clause, allowed the SCA
> lawyers to go on a fishing expedition, but perhaps they had
> no choice.

Armstrong was deposed, but also testified at the arbitration. I was
referencing what I recollect was that latter testimony.

>
>>> For an extreme example, suppose the SCA lawyers had asked
>>> Armstrong some embarrassing question, like "Have you
>>> stopped beating your wife?" or "Have you ever dated a
>>> woman who doesn't look like your mom?" He might have
>>> had to answer (unless he asserted a privilege against
>>> incrimination, although dating women who look like your
>>> mom isn't criminal unless they are underage). But if he said
>>> "Yes" and the answer is "No," it's unlikely he'd ever get brought
>>> up on a perjury charge over it.
>>
>> You're typing nonsense.
>
> It is a reductio ad absurdum. Obviously lawyers are not
> supposed to go around asking irrelevant questions in
> depositions just to embarrass the witness. But they can ask
> questions in such a way as to fluster the witness.
> I don't know how the line is drawn as to what questions
> are considered permissible. In testimony in court there
> is a more obvious mechanism to prevent irrelevancy.
>
>>>>> When are you going to answer my question about why
>>>>> you keep saying Ochowicz is in legal danger and will rat out
>>>>> Armstrong, given that Ochowicz was never involved with
>>>>> Tailwind Sports? Not that I care about Ochowicz's skin.
>>>>> I'm just trying to assess the credibility of the witness here.
>>
>>>> I suggest that you do a search of Ochawitz relationship to Weisel and
>>>> Weisel's involvement in professional cycling. And that's all I'm going
>>>> to tell you pre-indictment.
>>
>>> Oh, I know Ochowicz worked for Weisel and that Weisel's
>>> tentacles are all over US pro cycling. I just have never seen
>>> any shred of evidence that Ochowicz had an involvement
>>> with Tailwind or US Postal. During that timeframe he was
>>> involved with Phonak and BMC, IIRC. So I doubt he's gonna
>>> have any exposure in the USPS fraud investigation.
>>
>>> If you won't say anything pre-indictment, and Och never gets
>>> indicted or called to testify, what are you going to say and
>>> when will you justify your assertions? Or will those statements
>>> simply be no longer operative?
>>
>> Do your own Internet research. I have no obligation to you to rehash
>> what's already been discussed here and elsewhere. Be patient. We'll
>> have lots to discuss post-indictment.
>
> "Do your own Internet research" is something people say
> when they can't quickly find support for their own position
> on Wikipedia.
>
> Fredmaster Ben
>


==============================================================================
TOPIC: Old guys, Classic races
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/5673eacc51ffc414?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, May 29 2011 4:32 am
From: ilan


On May 29, 6:05 am, Jimmy July <F...@Burger.com> wrote:
> On 5/28/2011 8:23 PM, DirtRoadie wrote:
>
> > Alexi Grewal  won the Iron Horse Bicycle Classic back in the late 70's
> > or early 80's.
> > As part of his present comeback he was supposed to be riding it again
> > this year.
> > But what are the chances of a guy Alexi's age being competitive?
>
> >http://bit.ly/lxbfbM
>
> > Oh.
>
> > DR
>
> In all our endless, repetitive talk about doping in cycling we have
> overlooked the reality that some riders have skipped right over doping
> and made deals directly with The Devil.
>
> Ned Overend is Ultimate Evil!

No, Longo!

-ilan


== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, May 29 2011 4:41 am
From: Simply Fred


Jimmy July wrote:
>> Ned Overend is Ultimate Evil!

ilan wrote:
> No, Longo!

It would be Exorcist IV if they mated.

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, May 29 2011 6:32 am
From: DirtRoadie


On May 29, 5:41 am, Simply Fred <n...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> Jimmy July wrote:
> >> Ned Overend is Ultimate Evil!
> ilan wrote:
> > No, Longo!
>
> It would be Exorcist IV if they mated.

If that were going to happen, this could the weekend.

http://ironhorsebicycleclassic.com/sites/default/files/results_prelim/Women%20Pro-Cat%201-2-3.pdf

DR


== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, May 29 2011 6:58 am
From: DirtRoadie


On May 29, 5:41 am, Simply Fred <n...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> Jimmy July wrote:
> >> Ned Overend is Ultimate Evil!
> ilan wrote:
> > No, Longo!
>
> It would be Exorcist IV if they mated.

[Edit]
If that were going to happen, this could [be] the weekend.

http://ironhorsebicycleclassic.com/sites/default/files/results_prelim/Women%20Pro-Cat%201-2-3.pdf

DR


== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, May 29 2011 8:31 am
From: Fred Flintstein


On 5/28/2011 11:05 PM, Jimmy July wrote:
> On 5/28/2011 8:23 PM, DirtRoadie wrote:
>> Alexi Grewal won the Iron Horse Bicycle Classic back in the late 70's
>> or early 80's.
>> As part of his present comeback he was supposed to be riding it again
>> this year.
>> But what are the chances of a guy Alexi's age being competitive?
>>
>> http://bit.ly/lxbfbM
>>
>> Oh.
>>
>> DR
>
> In all our endless, repetitive talk about doping in cycling we have overlooked the reality that some riders have skipped right over doping and made deals directly with The Devil.
>
> Ned Overend is Ultimate Evil!

I rode the Iron Horse Classic in 1983. Got 17th, I think, in
the Cat 3 race. Michael Carter won. He started racing in 1982
and was a pro by 1984. I remember when he turned around and
looked at the lead group before disappearing up the road on
the way to Coal Bank Pass.

Ned Overend had won the Cat 4 category the year before and
was racing in the Cat 1/2 race. He kicked everyone's ass to
Silverton.

That year it was a three stage race, the haul to Silverton
followed by a crit and another road race. Ned got turned
inside out in the crit by Jeff Pierce and several other top
riders and dropped down the overall. Pierce won.

It's a great ride by Overend. But like much of road racing
these days it's primarily a masters event, probably Grewal
is not the only delusional guy there. That makes it difficult
to take seriously.

F


== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, May 29 2011 9:28 am
From: Scott


On May 29, 9:31 am, Fred Flintstein <bob.schwa...@sbcREMOVEglobal.net>
wrote:
> On 5/28/2011 11:05 PM, Jimmy July wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 5/28/2011 8:23 PM, DirtRoadie wrote:
> >> Alexi Grewal won the Iron Horse Bicycle Classic back in the late 70's
> >> or early 80's.
> >> As part of his present comeback he was supposed to be riding it again
> >> this year.
> >> But what are the chances of a guy Alexi's age being competitive?
>
> >>http://bit.ly/lxbfbM
>
> >> Oh.
>
> >> DR
>
> > In all our endless, repetitive talk about doping in cycling we have overlooked the reality that some riders have skipped right over doping and made deals directly with The Devil.
>
> > Ned Overend is Ultimate Evil!
>
> I rode the Iron Horse Classic in 1983. Got 17th, I think, in
> the Cat 3 race. Michael Carter won. He started racing in 1982
> and was a pro by 1984. I remember when he turned around and
> looked at the lead group before disappearing up the road on
> the way to Coal Bank Pass.
>
> Ned Overend had won the Cat 4 category the year before and
> was racing in the Cat 1/2 race. He kicked everyone's ass to
> Silverton.
>
> That year it was a three stage race, the haul to Silverton
> followed by a crit and another road race. Ned got turned
> inside out in the crit by Jeff Pierce and several other top
> riders and dropped down the overall. Pierce won.
>
> It's a great ride by Overend. But like much of road racing
> these days it's primarily a masters event, probably Grewal
> is not the only delusional guy there. That makes it difficult
> to take seriously.
>
> F

The results are up already. FWIW, most of the top CO racers aren't in
Durango this weekend, instead they're racing in Superior (crit
yesterday, Morgul Bismark loop today).

==============================================================================
TOPIC: What crime has LA been INDICTED for
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/5fa68f29710dcb4e?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 29 2011 6:12 am
From: "derFahrer@gmail.com"


On May 27, 10:20 am, Simply Fred <n...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> Jimmy July wrote:
> >>>>> He hasn't been indicted for anything. There is rampant speculation
> >>>>> that he will soon be indicted for genocide, shoplifting and
> >>>>> impersonating an officer.
> Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> >>>> Your forgot the Olson twins.
> Fred Flintstein wrote:
> >>> And hacking the French lab's computer.
> Simply Fred wrote:
> >> And uploading state secrets to wikileaks.
> Scott wrote:
> > Let's not forget climate change.
>
> Climate change is not a crime in the US. Quite the contrary.

Of all of Lance's transgressions, the only one he should be punished
for is the Olsen twins. I take that back, for that he should be not
guilty by reason of insanity.

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Why would someone that tested clean 500 times need attorneys such as
these?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/c30539db138ece33?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, May 29 2011 7:50 am
From: Fred Flintstein


On 5/26/2011 1:32 PM, Choppy Warburton wrote:
> Hey Anton. Is this you?
>
> http://www.bikecircle.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-13123.html
>

He'll be back. Guys like him can't stay away.

Good work.

F


== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, May 29 2011 9:42 am
From: Scott


On May 29, 8:50 am, Fred Flintstein <bob.schwa...@sbcREMOVEglobal.net>
wrote:
> On 5/26/2011 1:32 PM, Choppy Warburton wrote:
>
> > Hey Anton.  Is this you?
>
> >http://www.bikecircle.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-13123.html
>
> He'll be back. Guys like him can't stay away.
>
> Good work.
>
> F

It was funny reading all those comments about the necessity to
specialize in the Kilo, and how important an explosive start is, then
think about how T Phinney rides a kilo. He is almost deliberately
slow out of the gate, then ramps it up like mad all the way to the
line. He's not a specialist, he's not a gym rat, and he doesn't
explode out of the gate. But, he is fast.


== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, May 29 2011 10:18 am
From: Fredmaster of Brainerd


On May 29, 7:50 am, Fred Flintstein <bob.schwa...@sbcREMOVEglobal.net>
wrote:
> On 5/26/2011 1:32 PM, Choppy Warburton wrote:
>
> > Hey Anton.  Is this you?
>
> >http://www.bikecircle.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-13123.html
>
> He'll be back. Guys like him can't stay away.
>
> Good work.
>
> F

That website is weird. It's a fragment of an rbr thread
and each posters' name has been replaced with
some sort of random handle. I would have guessed
an ineffective content-farming scheme, but they don't even
appear to be selling ads with it.

Here's the original:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/browse_frm/thread/046db07a7b614d46/10fbc2effc6c1425

Fredmaster Ben


== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, May 29 2011 10:27 am
From: Randall


There is a quite a few people alleging Lance doped and he is also the
subject of a grand jury investigation. There is a 90% indictment rate
in grand jury investigations as I stated earlier. So it makes good
sense to have a strong defense team.


On May 26, 3:43 pm, ilan <ilan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 26, 6:24 pm, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Seems strange..
>
> > John Keker and Elliot Peters of San Francisco represented Major League
> > Baseball players as they won a key appeals court case two years ago in
> > which a panel of federal judges ruled that agents had no right to
> > seize baseball's anonymous drug-testing results from 2003.
>
> > Read more:http://www.cbc.ca/sports/moresports/story/2011/05/26/sp-uci-armstrong...
>
> Of course, if he were innocent, he wouldn't need a lawyer since he
> wouldn't have anything to hide. Anyway, you can't trust what lawyers
> say in the courtroom, since they are being paid by the defendant.
>
> -ilan

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, May 29 2011 10:30 am
From: "A. Dumas"


Choppy Warburton wrote:
> Hey Anton. Is this you?
> http://www.bikecircle.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-13123.html

Who? Why? That is some sort of cyclingmorons.com fuck-up of this:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/browse_frm/thread/46db07a7b614d46


== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, May 29 2011 11:02 am
From: Fred Flintstein


On 5/29/2011 12:30 PM, A. Dumas wrote:
> Choppy Warburton wrote:
>> Hey Anton. Is this you?
>> http://www.bikecircle.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-13123.html
>
> Who? Why? That is some sort of cyclingmorons.com fuck-up of this: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/browse_frm/thread/46db07a7b614d46

Interesting who got assigned the name 'tarty'.

F

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Giro Review
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/5229bc0beec82e09?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 29 2011 9:47 am
From: RicodJour


Boring.

A few interesting tidbits, mainly the scenery.

R

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Context for TdS debacle
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/9ed72fd9cc6036a9?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, May 29 2011 10:19 am
From: "A. Dumas"


Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> =====
> =====
>> ======
>> ======

Please, for all our sanity, will you finally get fucking OEQuoteFix
plugin installed?


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, May 29 2011 10:58 am
From: Fred Flintstein


On 5/29/2011 12:19 PM, A. Dumas wrote:
> Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>> =====
>> =====
>>> ======
>>> ======
>
> Please, for all our sanity, will you finally get fucking OEQuoteFix plugin installed?

Mike, Lafferty is your fault!

F

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Giro d'Italia, stage 21 summary
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/cea37f68aafcbbe2?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, May 29 2011 11:10 am
From: Bob Martin



Stage 21 : May 29, Milan, 31.5 km

1 David Millar (GBr) Team Garmin-Cervelo 0.30.13
2 Alex Rasmussen (Den) HTC-Highroad 0.07
3 Alberto Contador Velasco (Spa) Saxo Bank Sungard 0.36
4 Richie Porte (Aus) Saxo Bank Sungard 0.43
5 Yaroslav Popovych (Ukr) Team RadioShack 0.55
6 Jos Van Emden (Ned) Rabobank Cycling Team 1.02
7 Cameron Meyer (Aus) Team Garmin-Cervelo 1.04
8 Patrick Gretsch (Ger) HTC-Highroad 1.08
9 Tiago Machado (Por) Team RadioShack 1.12
10 Kanstantsin Sivtsov (Blr) HTC-Highroad 1.16


Changes in GC, stage 21 compared to stage 20 :

Biggest gainers by position :
+4 Rinaldo Nocentini
+4 Dennis van Winden
+4 David Millar
+3 Yuriy Krivtsov
+3 Sebastian Lang
+3 Alan Marangoni
+2 Richie Porte
+2 Mirko Selvaggi
+2 Matteo Montaguti
+2 Giairo Ermetti

Biggest losers by position :
-3 Alberto Ongarato
-3 Alexander Kristoff
-3 Luca Mazzanti
-2 Addy Engels
-2 Davide Malacarne
-2 Dmitry Kozontchouk
-2 Fabio Sabatini
-2 Jerome Pineau
-2 Jesus Hernandez Blazquez
-2 Julien Berard
-2 Laurent Didier

Biggest gainers by time :
+0:36 David Millar
+0:29 Alex Rasmussen

Biggest losers by time :
-5:04 Danilo Di Luca
-4:49 Simon Spilak
-4:45 Giampaolo Caruso
-4:40 Dmitry Kozontchouk
-4:26 Mauricio Alberto Ardila Cano
-4:23 Fabio Taborre
-4:22 Luca Mazzanti
-4:21 Cristiano Salerno
-4:18 Addy Engels
-4:18 Davide Malacarne
-4:14 Giampaolo Cheula

Favourites by position :
+2 Richie Porte
+1 Stefano Garzelli
+1 Roman Kreuziger
-1 Danilo Di Luca

Favourites by time :
-0:07 Richie Porte
-0:42 Vincenzo Nibali
-0:50 Roman Kreuziger
-0:52 Michele Scarponi
-1:27 Denis Menchov
-2:00 Stefano Garzelli
-2:07 Carlos Sastre Candil
-2:09 Thomas Lovkvist
-2:43 Lars Ytting Bak
-3:00 David Arroyo Duran
-3:20 Daniel Moreno Fernandez
-5:04 Danilo Di Luca

Top 10 and favourites GC standings (previous stage in parens) :
1 Alberto Contador Velasco 84:05:14 (unchanged)
2 Michele Scarponi 6:10 (was 2nd at 5:18)
3 Vincenzo Nibali 6:56 (was 3rd at 6:14)
4 John Gadret 10:04 (was 4th at 7:49)
5 JoaquA­m RodrA­guez Oliver 11:05 (was 5th at 9:27)
6 Roman Kreuziger 11:28 (was 7th at 10:38)
7 Jose Rujano Guillen 12:12 (was 6th at 10:23)
8 Denis Menchov 12:18 (was 8th at 10:51)
9 Steven Kruijswijk 13:51 (was 9th at 12:56)
10 Kanstantsin Siutsou 14:10 (was 11th at 13:30)
.....
14 David Arroyo Duran 26:56 (was 14th at 23:56)
.....
21 Thomas Lovkvist 43:51 (was 21st at 41:42)
.....
26 Stefano Garzelli 1:04:00 (was 27th at 1:02:00)
.....
29 Daniel Moreno Fernandez 1:07:31 (was 29th at 1:04:11)
30 Carlos Sastre Candil 1:07:33 (was 30th at 1:05:26)
.....
69 Danilo Di Luca 2:32:27 (was 68th at 2:27:23)
.....
81 Richie Porte 2:46:57 (was 83rd at 2:46:50)
.....
127 Lars Ytting Bak 3:49:26 (was 127th at 3:46:43)

Top 10 on Points table with previous in parens:
1 Jan Bakelants 26 (unchanged)
2 Pablo Lastras Garcia 13 (unchanged)
3 Sebastian Lang 10 (unchanged)
4 Stefano Garzelli 8 (unchanged)
5 Bram Tankink 8 (unchanged)
6 Lars Ytting Bak 8 (unchanged)
7 Frederik Veuchelen 6 (unchanged)
8 Daniel Moreno Fernandez 5 (unchanged)
9 Giovanni Visconti 5 (unchanged)
10 Fumiyuki Beppu 5 (unchanged)

Top 10 on Mountains table with previous in parens:
1 Stefano Garzelli 67 (unchanged)
2 Alberto Contador Velasco 58 (unchanged)
3 Jose Rujano Guillen 43 (unchanged)
4 Mikel Nieve Ituralde 39 (unchanged)
5 Gianluca Brambilla 29 (unchanged)
6 Vasili Kiryienka 24 (unchanged)
7 Emanuele Sella 23 (unchanged)
8 Michele Scarponi 23 (unchanged)
9 Vincenzo Nibali 22 (unchanged)
10 Johnny Hoogerland 21 (unchanged)

Retirements to date : Stage
Craig Lewis (USA) HTC-Highroad 19
Filippo Savini (Ita) Colnago - CSF Inox 19
Marco Pinotti (Ita) HTC-Highroad 19
Francesco Masciarelli (Ita) Pro Team Astana 17
Matthew Wilson (Aus) Team Garmin-Cervelo 17
Murilo Antonio Fischer (Bra) Team Garmin-Cervelo 17
Michal Golas (Pol) Vacansoleil-DCM Pro Cycling Team 16
Brett Lancaster (Aus) Team Garmin-Cervelo 15
Domenico Pozzovivo (Ita) Colnago - CSF Inox 15
Frantisek Rabon (Cze) HTC-Highroad 15
Juan Jose Oroz Ugalde (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 15
Manuel Antonio Leal Cardoso (Por) Team RadioShack 15
Marco Marzano (Ita) Lampre - ISD 15
Robert Hunter (RSA) Team RadioShack 15
Andrea Noe' (Ita) Farnese Vini - Neri Sottoli 14
Francesco Chicchi (Ita) Quickstep Cycling Team 14
Rafael Valls Ferri (Spa) Geox-TMC 14
Alessandro Petacchi (Ita) Lampre - ISD 13
Danilo Hondo (Ger) Lampre - ISD 13
Davide Appollonio (Ukn) Sky Procycling 13
Francisco Jose Ventoso Alberdi (Spa) Movistar Team 13
Gerald Ciolek (Ger) Quickstep Cycling Team 13
Manuel Belletti (Ita) Colnago - CSF Inox 13
Mark Cavendish (GBr) HTC-Highroad 13
Mark Renshaw (Aus) HTC-Highroad 13
Martin Kohler (Swi) BMC Racing Team 13
Sacha Modolo (Ukn) Colnago - CSF Inox 13
Borut Bozic (Slo) Vacansoleil-DCM Pro Cycling Team 11
Danilo Napolitano (Ita) Acqua & Sapone 11
Adam Blyth (GBr) Omega Pharma-Lotto 10
Chris Butler (USA) BMC Racing Team 9
Graeme Brown (Aus) Rabobank Cycling Team 9
Jackson Rodriguez (Ven) Androni Giocattoli 9
Robbie McEwen (Aus) Team RadioShack 9
Fabio Andres Duarte Arevalo (Col) Geox-TMC 8
Brice Feillu (Fra) Leopard Trek 5
Bruno Pires (Por) Leopard Trek 5
Chris Barton (USA) BMC Racing Team 5
Davide ViganA² (Ita) Leopard Trek 5
Dominic Klemme (Ger) Leopard Trek 5
Fabian Wegmann (Ger) Leopard Trek 5
Francesco Failli (Ita) Farnese Vini - Neri Sottoli 5
Oliver Zaugg (Swi) Leopard Trek 5
Thomas Rohregger (Aut) Leopard Trek 5
Tom Slagter (Ned) Rabobank Cycling Team 5
Tom Stamsnijder (Ned) Leopard Trek 5
Tyler Farrar (USA) Team Garmin-Cervelo 5
Wouter Weylandt (Bel) Leopard Trek 3
Total retirements : 48


(This report can also be seen at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rvmartin2)


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, May 29 2011 1:51 pm
From: sender


On 29/05/2011 19:10, Bob Martin wrote:
>
> Stage 21 : May 29, Milan, 31.5 km
>
> 1 David Millar (GBr) Team Garmin-Cervelo 0.30.13

At last a clean winner. ;)

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Giro d'Italia, stage 19 summary
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/9299488aaba26377?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 29 2011 2:13 pm
From: Ryan Cousineau


I remember having this discussion before, but should a race leader's "time" be the gap to 2nd? Otherwise, it looks like a race leader is making no race progress between the time they take the lead and the time they lose it (or win).

For all other racers, leave the benchmark (relative to leader) as is, but for a current race leader, gain loss should be relative to their previous lead over 2nd, even if the second place rider changes. Similarly, a rider who newly attains 1st can be credited with their old time gap PLUS their new time gap to 2nd.

This reflects the idea that all riders chase the leader, but the leader tries to escape the runer-up.


==============================================================================

You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "rec.bicycles.racing"
group.

To post to this group, visit http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing?hl=en

To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rec.bicycles.racing+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com

To change the way you get mail from this group, visit:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/subscribe?hl=en

To report abuse, send email explaining the problem to abuse@googlegroups.com

==============================================================================
Google Groups: http://groups.google.com/?hl=en

Re: Medarticles Please, I need some papers from Cephalalgia

Buzz It
All three are enclosed!!

Medarticles Please, I need some papers from Cephalalgia

Buzz It
Dear Sirs

Please, I need the next papers:

1) "The non-hallucinogen 2-bromo-lysergic acid diethylamide as
preventative treatment for cluster headache: An open, non-randomized
case series"
Matthias Karst, John H Halpern, Michael Bernateck and Torsten Passie
Cephalalgia
September 2010 vol. 30 no. 9 pp 1140-1144
DOI: 10.1177/0333102410363490

Link: http://cep.sagepub.com/content/30/9/1140.extract

2) "Is BOL-148 hallucinogenic?"
Peer Tfelt-Hansen
Cephalalgia
April 2011 vol. 31 no. 5 pp 634
DOI: 10.1177/0333102410392069

Link: http://cep.sagepub.com/content/31/5/634.extract

3) "Response to Tfelt-Hansen P: Is BOL-148 hallucinogenic?"
Matthias Karst, John H Halpern, Michael Bernateck and Torsten Passie
Cephalalgia
April 2011 vol. 31 no. 5 pp 635-636
DOI: 10.1177/0333102410392074

Link: http://cep.sagepub.com/content/31/5/635.extract

Thank you very much

FJ

--
You can edit your Group Email settings by visiting the following link.

http://groups.google.com/group/medarticles/subscribe

You can choose abridged email or digest email so that you will receive only one email per day.

I am Mr.Mark Seumas Mccombe;I have a business plan to share with you

Buzz It

RE

Buzz It
--
I have a biz to share with you. Reply for details.

Fw: Warning about Wow We and JJ Ulrich- Must Read Now!

Buzz It
From:


In the interest of truth, I am writing this email to inform everybody about "I Wow We" and their CEO, Bill Starkey and their "Master Distributor", JJ Ulrich.
If you are doing business with I Wow We or JJ Ulrich, you MUST read this entire letter!
You MUST KNOW THE TRUTH!
Here is what you MUST know:
1.      I Wow We and its CEO, Bill Starkey, on webinars and phone conferences, markets as a successful company that has been in business for over 4 years. The TRUTH is that Bill Starkey, was a Distributor for another video email company not even 3 years ago. He FAILED MISERABLY! So, Bill is knowingly being untruthful about the background of I Wow We and his involvement in the company. His "story" is bogus.
 
2.      Bill proclaims himself as having a successful track record in the network marketing industry. It is NOT TRUE!
Please do yourself a favor and Google "Bill Starkey- National Association of Independent Mortgage Bankers". As you can see, there are MANY UNHAPPY CUSTOMERS. Where is the company today? It is OUT OF BUSINESS!
 
Then, Bill UNSUCCESSFULLY tried to launch another MLM company, "Connect Realty" that used real estate sales as the product. Guess where that went? Absolutely NO WHERE!
 
Here is the link:
 
Our team cannot find any notable success and PROOF of that success that Bill Starkey has ever had in this industry.
 
 
3.     BIG WARNING:
 
The self-proclaimed Master Distributor of "I Wow We", JJ Ulrich is a CON MAN! You should RUN and RUN Fast from ANYTHING he does!
 
His name and anybody Associate with him will have their credibility ruined. You will be embarrassed in front of your friends, family members and business colleagues.
 
Just LAST YEAR, Ulrich was the CEO of the "Elite Activity" which is a GIANT PYRAMID SCHEME GIFING ACTIVITY. We have a copy of his Linked In page from June 30, 2009 where Ulrich proudly promotes himself as the CEO of THIS KNOWN SCAM.
 
 
The Founder of "Elite Activity", Harvey Dockstader, was ARRESTED and SENTENCED TO PRISON:
 
Texas Department of Criminal Justice
Offender Information Detail

SID Number: 07548662
TDCJ Number: 01506716
Name: DOCKSTADER,HARVEY JOSEPH
Race: W
Sex: M
Age: 43
Maximum Sentence Date: 2010-05-14
Current Facility: LYCHNER
Projected Release Date: 2010-05-14
Parole Eligibility Date: NOT AVAILABLE
Many PEOPLE who participated in the Elite Activity were arrested around the world!
In fact, it is so highly ILLEGAL the US FTC (Federal Trade Commission) has gone to the trouble of publishing an official warning page: http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/cons...ts/alt056.shtm which points out the illegality of both organizing AND participating in such schemes.

There's more…….
Dockstader also has ties to the Fundamentalist Latter Day Saints (FLDS).  Recently, Texas authorities removed over 400 children from the church compound in the largest child molestation investigation in United States history. Though not charged yet, Mr. Dockstader has allegedly been a subject of the abuse investigations in Eldorado Texas and Colorado City Arizona. 

Members of the Elite Activity "Resurrected" ADMITTED that they KNOWINGLY PROVIDED MATERIAL FINANCIAL SUPPORT to the FLDS  with their nominal $16 monthly charge members MUST pay for their websites. Elite Activity Resurrected currently boasts upwards of 200,000 members; that's 3.2 million dollars monthly into the cults coffers."
 
That is ABSOLUTELT DISGUSTING!
The ELITE ACTIVITY, that JJ ULRICH was CEO of, is SUPPORTING CHILD ABUSERS AND MOLESTORS!
 
 
Read More…..
More Colorado City men indicted, 9 in custody, on polygamy crimes 

3TV has learned that as many as seven more Colorado City men have been indicted on crimes associated with the practice of polygamy.

One of those men was arrested and eight others turned themselves in to Mohave County authorities. Two of the men were wanted on previous indictments.

3TV reporter Mike Watkiss learned that Kelly Fischer, Dale Barlow, Rodney Holm, Randolph Barlow, Vergel Jessop, Terry Barlow, Donald Robert Barlow and
Harvey J. Dockstader all turned themselves in.
 
So, what did JJ Ulrich do next?

When it got "TOO HOT" for Ulrich, what did he do? Like a MORON, he started his own GIFTING ACTIVITY: "Connecting Us All".  Here is a letter he wrote to all "Elite Activity" members when starting Connecting Us All.
 
"Months ago various agencies worldwide started questing the integrity of the intention of this website and the belief system we so strongly hold dear. Their under the impression that our model of unconditional gifting is merely a disguise for fraudulent activities. These inquiries presented an opportunity to look into our hearts and this organization to seek out the truth. While we assure you and the rest of the world that our intentions are pure, we must agree with our critics that it could appear, to skeptics, to be volatile of the law.

This began our journey to educate ourselves and identify how to remove any question about the intention of this organization. We gathered the leaders, hired attorneys, retained consultants and began to pioneer who we are, what we stand for and to build this organization into the pinnacle of worldwide organizations. Teams have placed thousands of man hours into its development and today marks the historic benchmark of out with the old and in with the new.

Effective August 21, 2009 this website is no longer functional. The sun has dipped below the mountains and we await the dawn of a new morning and the sunrise to follow. Please use this opportunity for self-reflection, did you give with pure intent, or did you deep down give with an expectation of profit? This is the question so many ask and we have addressed in the new organization to be known as 
www.connectingusall.com. It is filled with exciting new global features, friends and honors our the belief systems we all hold dear. All future updates will be at www.connectingusall.com

This situation stems from our voices not being heard. So we ask that you share your success story of the people this movement has helped. In addition help us create the change of a You and Me world. Many of you as children stood atop a hilltop and proclaimed someday I am going to change the world. well my friends now is the time. Please sign the petition and send your stories to your local officials letting them know the lives have been changed.

Thank you to all for your support, God Bless you all and we will see you at
www.connectingusall.com.

If you go to JJ Ulrich's website, www.jjulrich.com  you will see that he proudly lists one of HIS COMPANIES as "Connecting Us All".
 
 
Now, Ulrich is LYING TO EVERYONE saying how he built groups of over 800,000 and he is "just getting started." Sure, he SCAMMED OVER 800,000 people in the Elite Activity and he is going to do the SAME THING in I WOW WE. He will try to get you to spend over $1,000 for "marketing tools" such as leads, lead scrapers and phone auto-dialers. And guess who is making the $$$$ from these.
 
He will TELL YOU that he is going to FILL YOUR MATRIX and you DO NOT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING! This is IMPOSSIBLE and 100% ILLEGAL.
This will make I WOW WE a VERY SHORT RUN! And I mean VERY SHORT.
His "System" that he uses is designed to do one thing. Get your  personal contact information and that of your friends, family and business colleagues and then he will use YOUR contact information to market something else to them.
He just tried it with another networking company and he, and others that Ulrich works with, is NOW BEING SUED in United States Federal Court- You can read the details here for yourself:
JJ Ulrich is NOW BEING SUED IN FEDERAL COURT!!!!!!
Do NOT be fooled!
A Special note to JJ:
My team and I have just started and will not stop until you, and your programmer JOE READ, are put in prison where you belong. Do you think the Criminal Investigations Division of the IRS would like to know how you supported yourself and your family when you were doing Elite Activity? I am sure you claimed your Income Taxes, didn't you?
And the FBI is very interested in MAIL FRAUD when you accepted those gifts over State lines.
And the Securities and Exchange Commission is interested in SECURITIES VIOLATIONS in your GIFTING SCHEMES!
JJ… you, and the other thieves with whom you work, are going to prison!!!
Warning! Warning! Warning!
If you are currently doing business with JJ Ulrich, you owe it to yourself to ask JJ and Wow We about the issues in this letter. They are 100% FACTS!!!!! If you do not, you will be SORRY! 

[socialactionfoundationforequity:13919 human rights activist Gautam Navlakha detained in Kashmir

Buzz It
PLEASE PROTEST

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Kamayani BaliMahabal <kamayani@ymail.com>
Date: 29 May 2011 14:29
Subject: [IHRO] Oppose the illegal detention of human rights activist Gautam Navlakha in Kashmir
To: IHRO <IHRO@yahoogroups.com>


 

Press Note: For immediate release
INTERNATIONAL PEOPLE'S TRIBUNAL ON HUMAN RIGHTS AND JUSTICE IN INDIAN-ADMINISTERED KASHMIR (IPTK)
www.kashmirprocess.org
From: Dr. Angana Chatterji, Convener IPTK and Professor, Anthropology, California Institute of Integral Studies; and advocate Parvez Imroz, Convener IPTK and Founder, Jammu and Kashmir Coalition of Civil Society
TRIBUNAL CO-CONVENER DENIED ENTRY INTO KASHMIR
Srinagar, May 28, 2011: On May 28, 2011, Mr. Gautam Navlakha, Convener, International People's Tribunal on Human Rights and Justice in Kashmir (IPTK) and Editorial Consultant,Economic and Political Weekly, was stopped at Srinagar airport on his arrival from New Delhi, and asked to go back. Officials invoked Section 144 of the Code of Criminal Procedure. By the time the authorities finalized their decision regarding his return, there were no remaining flights out of Srinagar. Mr. Navlakha is being detained and taken to an undisclosed location until May 29, when he will be allowed to return home.
Mr. Navlakha is a noted public intellectual and peace activist. His denial of entry raises urgent concerns about the status of freedom of speech and movement in Kashmir. Given the egregious violence that was inflicted on people by state forces in the Summer of 2008, 2009, and 2010 in Kashmir, we are deeply concerned that state forces not suppress democratic activities in the Summer of 2011, and not isolate Kashmiris from human rights defenders that travel to Kashmir to bear witness to atrocities and speak for peace and justice.
We understand that harassment, intimidation, and threats to IPTK members or their families are acts aimed to target and obstruct the work of the Tribunal. In November 2010, Professor Richard Shapiro, an academic from the United States and life-partner of IPTK Co-convener Angana Chatterji, was denied entry into India without any charges or due process.
Earlier, in June 2008, IPTK Co-convener Pravez Imroz and his family were targeted and an explosive device was thrown at his home. Imroz has been denied a passport. In July 2008, a First Information Report charged Angana Chatterji and IPTK Co-convener Zahir-Ud-Din, then editor of Etalaat English Daily, with acting to incite crimes against the state, following his publication of an article on mass graves written by Chatterji. IPTK Liaison Khurram Parvez has been threatened and is extensively surveilled. All Tribunal communications and the movements of its members in India and abroad are monitored.
We remain gravely concerned about the physical and psychological safety and integrity of all Tribunal members. We remain gravely concerned about our ability to continue our work, and the ability of out-of-state Tribunal members to travel to Kashmir.
 

 
Adv  Kamayani Bali Mahabal
Mobile-00919820749204
skype:lawyercumactivist

I carry a torch in one hand
And a bucket of water in the other:
With these things I am going to set fire to Heaven
And put out the flames of Hell
So that voyagers to God can rip the veils
And see the real goal........................................By Rabia (Rabi'a Al-'Adawiyya)
__._,_.___
Recent Activity:
International Human Rights Organisation (IHRO), of the Indian subcontinent, is a NGO, with national focus and overseas lobby network. It agitates both in India and internationally.
.

__,_._,___



--
Kirity Roy
Secretary
Banglar Manabadhikar Suraksha Mancha
(MASUM)
&
National Convenor (PACTI)
Programme Against Custodial Torture & Impunity
40A, Barabagan Lane (4th Floor)
Balaji Place
Shibtala
Srirampur
Hooghly
PIN- 712203
Fax - +91-33-26220843
Phone- +91-33-26220844 / 0845
e. mail : kirityroy@gmail.com
Web: www.masum.org.in

--
Truth resides in every human heart, and one has to search for it there, and to be guided by truth as one sees it. But no one has a right to coerce others to act according to his own view of truth. - Mohandas Gandhi
 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups "SAFE - Social Action Foundation for Equity" group.
To post to this group, send email to
socialactionfoundationforequity@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
socialactionfoundationforequity+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.co.in/group/socialactionfoundationforequity?hl=en?hl=en-GB

gsk

https://secure.shareit.com/shareit/checkout.html?PRODUCT[300429992]=1&languageid=1&stylefrom=300429992&backlink=http%3A%2F%2Fforexguide.blogspot.com&cookies=1¤cies=USD&pts=VISA,MASTERCARD,AMEX,DC