Tuesday, May 31, 2011

[socialactionfoundationforequity:13927 Fwd: Food for thought: Why Baba Ramdev really wants to starve

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Pl. read the interesting Article in either of the links below followed by my comments on the same

http://tinyurl.com/4xnuqsv


OR

http://www.firstpost.com/politics/food-for-thought-why-baba-ramdev-really-wants-to-starve-18138.html?utm_source=ibnlive.com&utm_medium=RHS-Widget

My comments:

Anna and Ramdev phenomena seem to be opening up now. They look like a Corporate managed event to divert attention away from Corporate crimes in 2G scam, Radia tapes and variety of other modes of corruption to a seemingly worthless Jan Lokpal Bill. It is important to remember that till a few years ago Govt had the exclusive patented rights on corruption activities. Corporates were supposed to part with the bribe money or footing the wrong bill but intentionally not by mistake. But now Corporates seem to be the main actor in the drama.

We must stop for a minute to think and question how many laws, existing in this country, have helped this Nation to be in cleaner and purer form. None. Every law making exercise had all the by pass routes and alibis included in it while preparing to fight the next bout of corruption, crime, scams and unpopular methods of governance. So no hope from Anna and his Civil Society. The latter, anyway, are interested in funding - domestic or foreign. So they are not representing the larger interest of the population any way.    


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Working Committee Member, Jan Sansad & 
Co-ordinator, Jharkhand Shanti evam Nyaya Yatra (JSNY)




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Member, Secretariat, All India Forum for Right to Education (AIF-RTE), 
Working Committee Member, Jan Sansad & 
Co-ordinator, Jharkhand Shanti evam Nyaya Yatra (JSNY)

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:13926 Press Release Today on 31st May, 2011 on the Occasion of ‘WORLD NO TOBACCO DAY’

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--- On Tue, 31/5/11, Man Mohan Sharma <vhapunjab@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Man Mohan Sharma <vhapunjab@gmail.com>
Subject: Press Release
To: 09seemasharma@gmail.com,
Date: Tuesday, 31 May, 2011, 18:04

To


 

The News Editors,

                                     

        

Press Release



Today on 31st May, 2011 on the Occasion of 'WORLD NO TOBACCO DAY' was observed by Voluntary Health Association of Punjab (VHAP), Chandigarh in close collaboration with State Tobacco Control Cell, Department of Health, Government of Punjab. On this occasion, various departments Officers / Officials, nursing students, NGO's and different stakeholders participated. The campaign of rally got started at 8:30 AM  from Chawla Nursing Home , Phase – 7, Mohali  and covered phase 6,5,4 and 2 with rally using IEC materials like posters, banners, play cards etc. Mr. Satish Chandera, Health Secretary, Govt. of Punjab, took green signal for the rally to start. A street play was also organized by the participants regarding awareness of Tobacco products. The main aim of this rally was to stop Tobacco consumptions in the district of Mohali and declared it as Smoke Free  so that the different diseases like Lung cancer, Heart Cancer, Mouth Cancer, Skin Cancer etc. would be stop / control among the community. The rally ended at Community Hall, Phase – 2, Mohali. Dr. Ashok Nayyar, Director of Health Services, Govt. of Punjab, Dr. Charanjeet Garg, Civil Surgeon, Mohali, Dr. Jai Singh, Distt. Health Officer, Mohali, Dr. Rakesh Kumar, State Tobacco Control Officer, Punjab, Coordinator, Sh. Jasbir Singh Banse, Coordinator, State Tobacco Control Cell, Sh. Laxmi Kant Bhatia, Project Manager, Voluntary Health Association of Punjab and Shamsher Singh Rana, Administrative Officer, Voluntary Health Association of Punjab were also present during the closing ceremony. Director of Health declared today that from onwards Mohali as SMOKE FREE district here during his speech on World No Tobacco Day. Different Stakeholders also put their views infront of the audience regarding the same.

The representative of the Voluntary Health Association of Punjab declared that the main stress of the association in this year would be getting the Smoke Free State and association will always support for reducing the cancer disease from the state.




 

Manmohan Sharma,

Executive Director,

Voluntary Health Association of Punjab,

Chandigarh

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:13922 340 HIV positive prisoners in Tihar

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340 HIV positive prisoners in Tihar
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-05-30/delhi/29599215_1_positive-prisoners-tihar-jail-jail-authorities

Neeraj Chauhan, May 30, 2011,

NEW DELHI: It might come as a shock but Integrated Counseling and
Testing Centre (ICTC) figures have revealed that there are 340 HIV
positive prisoners in Tihar jail, South Asia's biggest prison. The
statistics show that most of the prisoners among these 340 HIV
positive prisoners are intravenous drug users. These prisoners are
getting free treatment from jail authorities under the de-addition
programme called OST (Opioid Substitution Treatment).

Jail sources said that prisoners did not know about their HIV status
earlier and when they came to know about such programme in Tihar, they
joined the centre. Officials say six to eight percent population of
Tihar is HIV positive, but it is a fluctuating figure. "Presently,
there are 11,800 prisoners in Tihar and this number keeps on
fluctuating. So, HIV positive prisoners' status is also variable
because people come and go and they get treatment while being lodged
here. All those at the centre have benefited," said Sunil Gupta, Tihar
spokesperson.

In the last three years, around 5,700 prisoners, who have taken drugs
at least once in life, have undergone tests at this centre. Before
June 2008 Tihar jail had no mechanism to identify the HIV positive
inmates and whenever any government agency of National AIDS Control
Organisation (NACO) asked the authorities, a rough figure was
provided. In June 2008, Integrated Counseling and Testing Centre was
opened at Tihar with the help of NACO.

Sunil Gupta said that they have been able to identify such large
number of HIV positive prisoners inside only through ICTC and they all
were affected with it before they came here.

Officials said that out of 340 prisoners, 210 are intravenous drug
users who have once in their life used injections to consume drugs and
they have been repeat offenders in drug abuse. He added that medicines
under the treatment of HIV positive are very costly and jail
authorities provide these medicines for free to the affected inmates
apart from counseling. Earlier, authorities used to send the suspected
HIV positive prisoners to Deen Dayal Upadhyay hospital for treatment
but ICTC is located in jail itself with dedicated counselors. The
centre provides treatment with the help of United Nations Office on
Drugs and Crime (UNODC), NGOs and All India Institute of Medical
Sciences (AIIMS).

Gupta said they are providing this treatment to all identified HIV
positive inmates so that they don't spread this disease when they are
released on bail. Officials said that Tihar is also the only jail in
India which is providing OST treatment to prisoners who are drug
addicts and could be affected with HIV.

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rec.bicycles.racing - 25 new messages in 4 topics - digest

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rec.bicycles.racing
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing?hl=en

rec.bicycles.racing@googlegroups.com

Today's topics:

* Giro d'Italia, stage 19 summary - 7 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/9299488aaba26377?hl=en
* First of a VeloNews Series - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/a40bbb5fcd4c5cca?hl=en
* WADA & Contador: "strict liability" - 14 messages, 8 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/683ee4e6dc23f8bc?hl=en
* "The Onion" nails it, again. - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/9a42609e948d70ae?hl=en

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Giro d'Italia, stage 19 summary
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/9299488aaba26377?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, May 30 2011 11:18 pm
From: Fredmaster of Brainerd


On May 30, 8:53 pm, William Fred <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "A. Dumas" <alexan...@dumas.fr.invalid> wrote innews:is1naj$2u8$1@dont-
> email.me:
>
> > Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> >> I'll have to poke around, but I'm using Google Groups as my
> >> posting/reading interface. I assume that for some damned-ass reason
> >> GG is very casual about references headers, which probably goes
> >> nicely with it's default no-quoted-text-in-replies setting.
>
> > Works for other people. There were no line breaks either in your post.
>
> IAWTP.  Ryan is the only one posting here whose text doesn't wrap.

Yes. And many use google groups. I speculate it has
something to do with the web browser. Ryan, your
User-Agent line says "G2/1.0", which is a little inscrutable.
It might mean Google Groups, but for most users of GG,
the User-Agent field is the web browser.
Are you posting to rbr from a phone or mobile device?
Could you be getting a mobile version of GGroups that behaves
differently than others? Or maybe it's just that your
browser handles wrapping in text boxes in some way that
mangles GGroups' attempted wrapping?
If you're using some funny web browser, try posting
to rbr from Firefox and see if it behaves the same way.

Freddebugger Ben


== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, May 31 2011 12:31 am
From: Davey Crockett


William Fred a écrit profondement:

| IAWTP. Ryan is the only one posting here whose text doesn't wrap.

Does Xnews not have a "Reformat" utility?

Ryan's posts don't wrap here, but it just requires a simple "W w" to
make them behave. (gnus is in use here).

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Flying the Flag of the English
The Flag of Hengest and Horsa
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== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, May 31 2011 3:23 am
From: Simply Fred


RicodJour wrote:
> I'm having no trouble with Ryan's posts. Well, except for
> understanding what the hell he's talking about. ;)

Perhaps you're not using a threaded newsreader. If you do you'll find
each of his posts becomes a new subject.

== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, May 31 2011 5:53 am
From: RicodJour


On May 31, 6:23 am, Simply Fred <n...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> RicodJour wrote:
>
> > I'm having no trouble with Ryan's posts.  Well, except for
> > understanding what the hell he's talking about.  ;)
>
> Perhaps you're not using a threaded newsreader. If you do you'll find
> each of his posts becomes a new subject.

I'm using Google Groups as well. Maybe Google's gibberish makes sense
to Google?

R


== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, May 31 2011 1:14 pm
From: Frederick the Great


In article <is1naj$2u8$1@dont-email.me>,
"A. Dumas" <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> wrote:

> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> > I'll have to poke around, but I'm using Google Groups as my
> > posting/reading interface. I assume that for some damned-ass reason
> > GG is very casual about references headers, which probably goes
> > nicely with it's default no-quoted-text-in-replies setting.
>
> Works for other people. There were no line breaks either in your post.

Must be the slimmed down google for Canadians.

--
Old Fritz


== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, May 31 2011 1:17 pm
From: Frederick the Great


In article <Xns9EF5D495DF6F9FkldeltaC@130.133.4.11>,
William Fred <gcnp58@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "A. Dumas" <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> wrote in news:is1naj$2u8$1@dont-
> email.me:
>
> > Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> >> I'll have to poke around, but I'm using Google Groups as my
> >> posting/reading interface. I assume that for some damned-ass reason
> >> GG is very casual about references headers, which probably goes
> >> nicely with it's default no-quoted-text-in-replies setting.
> >
> > Works for other people. There were no line breaks either in your post.
>
> IAWTP. Ryan is the only one posting here whose text doesn't wrap. I
> would upgrade my newsreader, which would likely solve he problem, but
> none of the goldarned newfangled programs with all their jimcracker
> fooforall nonsense run on kerosene like my current one, and I am not
> going to give up my kerosene-powered newsreader.

Kerosene! Luxury. I'm pedaling as fast as I can just to
keep up. Fortunately, my flywheel powered newsreader puts
out more power than I can.

--
Old Fritz


== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, May 31 2011 1:27 pm
From: Simply Fred


Frederick the Great wrote:
> Must be the slimmed down google for Canadians.

<Meeow>Probably won't work for Ryan then</Meeow>


==============================================================================
TOPIC: First of a VeloNews Series
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/a40bbb5fcd4c5cca?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, May 31 2011 12:56 am
From: Fredmaster of Brainerd


On May 30, 11:38 am, BL <b...@verizon.net> wrote:
> http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/05/news/op-ed-series-1-on-heroes-...

Always classy writing about sports "heroes" on Memorial Day
goddamnit.

They're celebrity athletes, people. Not heroes.

If you make a person into a hero, and then the symbol
turns out to be a human being with failings, be
disappointed, sure, but don't make it into an epic poem
about how he let us all down. That goes for Lance or
Greg or Floyd, any of them.

We don't put up statues with people's names or put
their faces on stamps until they're safely dead. It's a
good policy.

Fredmaster Ben


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, May 31 2011 3:05 pm
From: Revtom


On May 31, 2:56 am, Fredmaster of Brainerd <bjwei...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 30, 11:38 am, BL <b...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/05/news/op-ed-series-1-on-heroes-...
>
> Always classy writing about sports "heroes" on Memorial Day
> goddamnit.
>
> They're celebrity athletes, people.  Not heroes.
>
> If you make a person into a hero, and then the symbol
> turns out to be a human being with failings, be
> disappointed, sure, but don't make it into an epic poem
> about how he let us all down.  That goes for Lance or
> Greg or Floyd, any of them.
>
> We don't put up statues with people's names or put
> their faces on stamps until they're safely dead.  It's a
> good policy.
>
> Fredmaster Ben

Why don't all STFU until a jury hands in a verdict? So Lance, Greg,
Floyd, et al. have been elevated to hero status, then knocked off
their respective pedestals; some can climb right back up, others
can't. It's also common knowledge that Lance can be a real dick to
people he doesn't like. So can I. The constant yammering accomplishes
nothing. VeloNews then publishes this piece written by a Lemond
employee, indicating that, while heroes take occasional falls, Lance
will fall harder. Just because sport fans are saps for a great story.
We need more "up close and personal" like we need a collective sore
ass. If Novitsky (sp) has a case, make it. It's another waste of tax
dollars. We have war criminals walking around free; so-called
"sporting fraud" should be relegated to the civil courts.

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TOPIC: WADA & Contador: "strict liability"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/683ee4e6dc23f8bc?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, May 31 2011 1:05 am
From: DC


Randall said the following on 31/05/2011 12:20 PM:
> Personally I think a unilateral rule of "strict liablity" is too
> harsh to be applied in all cases. I think WADA should show intent to
> dope.

Good luck trying to prove intent. You would just make it a free for all.


== 2 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, May 31 2011 3:05 am
From: Randall


On May 31, 1:05 am, DC <u...@nospam.net> wrote:
> Randall said the following on 31/05/2011 12:20 PM:
>
> > Personally I think a unilateral rule of  "strict liablity" is too
> > harsh to be applied in all cases. I think WADA should show intent to
> > dope.
>
> Good luck trying to prove intent. You would just make it a free for all.

I am not exactly certain what the solution is. But there needs to be
some middle ground in determining guilt. In Contadors case there is a
possibility that the meat was unknowingly contaminated.

== 3 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, May 31 2011 5:54 am
From: RicodJour


On May 31, 6:05 am, Randall <randall.shim...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 31, 1:05 am, DC <u...@nospam.net> wrote:
> > Randall said the following on 31/05/2011 12:20 PM:
>
> > > Personally I think a unilateral rule of  "strict liablity" is too
> > > harsh to be applied in all cases. I think WADA should show intent to
> > > dope.
>
> > Good luck trying to prove intent. You would just make it a free for all.
>
> I am not exactly certain what the solution is. But there needs to be
> some middle ground in determining guilt.  In Contadors case there is a
> possibility that the meat was unknowingly contaminated.

Or knowingly.

R


== 4 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, May 31 2011 6:07 am
From: Scott


On May 31, 4:05 am, Randall <randall.shim...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 31, 1:05 am, DC <u...@nospam.net> wrote:
>
> > Randall said the following on 31/05/2011 12:20 PM:
>
> > > Personally I think a unilateral rule of  "strict liablity" is too
> > > harsh to be applied in all cases. I think WADA should show intent to
> > > dope.
>
> > Good luck trying to prove intent. You would just make it a free for all.
>
> I am not exactly certain what the solution is. But there needs to be
> some middle ground in determining guilt.  In Contadors case there is a
> possibility that the meat was unknowingly contaminated.

You think there actually was some meat involved?


== 5 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, May 31 2011 6:26 am
From: ilan


On May 31, 6:20 am, Randall <randall.shim...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Personally I think a unilateral rule of  "strict liablity" is too
> harsh to be applied in all cases. I think WADA should show intent to
> dope.
>
> (http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/03/news/the-explainer-so-the-uci-
> is-appealing_165162 )
> "While the WADA Code and the UCI's anti-doping rules have evolved over
> the years, there is still a commitment to the principle of "strict
> liability" when it comes to doping violations. The reasoning is that
> if an athlete, even accidentally, ingests a banned substance, it gives
> him or her an unfair competitive advantage over those athletes who had
> not used the same substance.
>
> In other words, the most logical course for the UCI to pursue might be
> to concede the whole question of bovine contamination, agree with the
> Spanish federation's conclusion that no fault existed, but argue that
> even so, Contador must at least be penalized by having his 2010 Tour
> de France results negated."

This stuff is probably contrary to the European declaration of human
rights. Kasheshkin's Belgian lawyer already stated that he was going
to appeal current anti-doping rules to the European court of human
rights, but Kasheshkin gave up before he could do that. Too bad,
because I believe that there is already a good case that the current
system violates European employment laws, not to mention human rights.

-ilan


== 6 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, May 31 2011 6:34 am
From: ilan


On May 31, 3:26 pm, ilan <ilan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 31, 6:20 am, Randall <randall.shim...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Personally I think a unilateral rule of  "strict liablity" is too
> > harsh to be applied in all cases. I think WADA should show intent to
> > dope.
>
> > (http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/03/news/the-explainer-so-the-uci-
> > is-appealing_165162 )
> > "While the WADA Code and the UCI's anti-doping rules have evolved over
> > the years, there is still a commitment to the principle of "strict
> > liability" when it comes to doping violations. The reasoning is that
> > if an athlete, even accidentally, ingests a banned substance, it gives
> > him or her an unfair competitive advantage over those athletes who had
> > not used the same substance.
>
> > In other words, the most logical course for the UCI to pursue might be
> > to concede the whole question of bovine contamination, agree with the
> > Spanish federation's conclusion that no fault existed, but argue that
> > even so, Contador must at least be penalized by having his 2010 Tour
> > de France results negated."
>
> This stuff is probably contrary to the European declaration of human
> rights. Kasheshkin's Belgian lawyer already stated that he was going
> to appeal current anti-doping rules to the European court of human
> rights, but Kasheshkin gave up before he could do that. Too bad,
> because I believe that there is already a good case that the current
> system violates European employment laws, not to mention human rights.
>
> -ilan

Actually, the argument is quite clear. Taking a blood sample is a form
of personal search and seizure which, for example in France, can only
be done when ordered by a prosecutor in a criminal investigation. In
the US, such a search requires probable cause, but just doing your job
cannot be legally regarded as such.

I suppose that the current justification is that riders have given the
anti-doping authorities the right to do this, however, the point is
that one cannot be forced to give up a fundamental right, and in this
case, it is a form of coercion since professional cyclists can't do
their job without giving it up.

-ilan


== 7 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, May 31 2011 6:41 am
From: Choppy Warburton

> I am not exactly certain what the solution is. But there needs to be
> some middle ground in determining guilt.  In Contadors case there is a
> possibility that the meat was unknowingly contaminated.

Just like Lance's refrigerator and ball patches were unknowingly
contaminated. With only one testicle how's one to know there's
testosterone in that patch?


== 8 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, May 31 2011 6:43 am
From: Choppy Warburton


On May 31, 8:34 am, ilan <ilan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 31, 3:26 pm, ilan <ilan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 31, 6:20 am, Randall <randall.shim...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Personally I think a unilateral rule of  "strict liablity" is too
> > > harsh to be applied in all cases. I think WADA should show intent to
> > > dope.
>
> > > (http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/03/news/the-explainer-so-the-uci-
> > > is-appealing_165162 )
> > > "While the WADA Code and the UCI's anti-doping rules have evolved over
> > > the years, there is still a commitment to the principle of "strict
> > > liability" when it comes to doping violations. The reasoning is that
> > > if an athlete, even accidentally, ingests a banned substance, it gives
> > > him or her an unfair competitive advantage over those athletes who had
> > > not used the same substance.
>
> > > In other words, the most logical course for the UCI to pursue might be
> > > to concede the whole question of bovine contamination, agree with the
> > > Spanish federation's conclusion that no fault existed, but argue that
> > > even so, Contador must at least be penalized by having his 2010 Tour
> > > de France results negated."
>
> > This stuff is probably contrary to the European declaration of human
> > rights. Kasheshkin's Belgian lawyer already stated that he was going
> > to appeal current anti-doping rules to the European court of human
> > rights, but Kasheshkin gave up before he could do that. Too bad,
> > because I believe that there is already a good case that the current
> > system violates European employment laws, not to mention human rights.
>
> > -ilan
>
> Actually, the argument is quite clear. Taking a blood sample is a form
> of personal search and seizure which, for example in France, can only
> be done when ordered by a prosecutor in a criminal investigation. In
> the US, such a search requires probable cause, but just doing your job
> cannot be legally regarded as such.
>
> I suppose that the current justification is that riders have given the
> anti-doping authorities the right to do this, however, the point is
> that one cannot be forced to give up a fundamental right, and in this
> case, it is a form of coercion since professional cyclists can't do
> their job without giving it up.
>
> -ilan

Dumbass, if you want to race bikes, fly planes and drive school buses
you give up those rights.


== 9 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, May 31 2011 7:02 am
From: ilan


On May 31, 3:43 pm, Choppy Warburton <choppywarbur...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On May 31, 8:34 am, ilan <ilan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 31, 3:26 pm, ilan <ilan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 31, 6:20 am, Randall <randall.shim...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Personally I think a unilateral rule of  "strict liablity" is too
> > > > harsh to be applied in all cases. I think WADA should show intent to
> > > > dope.
>
> > > > (http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/03/news/the-explainer-so-the-uci-
> > > > is-appealing_165162 )
> > > > "While the WADA Code and the UCI's anti-doping rules have evolved over
> > > > the years, there is still a commitment to the principle of "strict
> > > > liability" when it comes to doping violations. The reasoning is that
> > > > if an athlete, even accidentally, ingests a banned substance, it gives
> > > > him or her an unfair competitive advantage over those athletes who had
> > > > not used the same substance.
>
> > > > In other words, the most logical course for the UCI to pursue might be
> > > > to concede the whole question of bovine contamination, agree with the
> > > > Spanish federation's conclusion that no fault existed, but argue that
> > > > even so, Contador must at least be penalized by having his 2010 Tour
> > > > de France results negated."
>
> > > This stuff is probably contrary to the European declaration of human
> > > rights. Kasheshkin's Belgian lawyer already stated that he was going
> > > to appeal current anti-doping rules to the European court of human
> > > rights, but Kasheshkin gave up before he could do that. Too bad,
> > > because I believe that there is already a good case that the current
> > > system violates European employment laws, not to mention human rights.
>
> > > -ilan
>
> > Actually, the argument is quite clear. Taking a blood sample is a form
> > of personal search and seizure which, for example in France, can only
> > be done when ordered by a prosecutor in a criminal investigation. In
> > the US, such a search requires probable cause, but just doing your job
> > cannot be legally regarded as such.
>
> > I suppose that the current justification is that riders have given the
> > anti-doping authorities the right to do this, however, the point is
> > that one cannot be forced to give up a fundamental right, and in this
> > case, it is a form of coercion since professional cyclists can't do
> > their job without giving it up.
>
> > -ilan
>
> Dumbass, if you want to race bikes, fly planes and drive school buses
> you give up those rights.

As far as I know, airline pilots and school bus drivers are not
subject to forced blood tests.

-ilan


== 10 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, May 31 2011 8:53 am
From: Simply Fred


Scott wrote:
> You think there actually was some meat involved?

Spanish cucumbers seem to be quite potent too.


== 11 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, May 31 2011 1:29 pm
From: Frederick the Great


In article
<20175095-6611-4a5f-ac0d-e646b890473f@34g2000pru.googlegroups.com>,
Randall <randall.shimizu@gmail.com> wrote:

> Personally I think a unilateral rule of "strict liablity" is too
> harsh to be applied in all cases. I think WADA should show intent to
> dope.
>
> (http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/03/news/the-explainer-so-the-uci-
> is-appealing_165162 )
> "While the WADA Code and the UCI's anti-doping rules have evolved over
> the years, there is still a commitment to the principle of "strict
> liability" when it comes to doping violations. The reasoning is that
> if an athlete, even accidentally, ingests a banned substance, it gives
> him or her an unfair competitive advantage over those athletes who had
> not used the same substance.
>
> In other words, the most logical course for the UCI to pursue might be
> to concede the whole question of bovine contamination, agree with the
> Spanish federation's conclusion that no fault existed, but argue that
> even so, Contador must at least be penalized by having his 2010 Tour
> de France results negated."

First across the line wins.

--
Old Fritz


== 12 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, May 31 2011 1:32 pm
From: Frederick the Great


In article
<841a4a6c-f601-4ec8-8e27-71c84178b921@k15g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
Randall <randall.shimizu@gmail.com> wrote:

> On May 31, 1:05 am, DC <u...@nospam.net> wrote:
> > Randall said the following on 31/05/2011 12:20 PM:
> >
> > > Personally I think a unilateral rule of  "strict liablity" is too
> > > harsh to be applied in all cases. I think WADA should show intent to
> > > dope.
> >
> > Good luck trying to prove intent. You would just make it a free for all.
>
> I am not exactly certain what the solution is.

There is no solution because there is no problem.

> But there needs to be
> some middle ground in determining guilt.

Due process.
Guards against unreasonable search and seizure.
A jury of one's peers.

--
Old Fritz


== 13 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, May 31 2011 1:35 pm
From: Randall


On May 31, 8:53 am, Simply Fred <n...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> Scott wrote:
> > You think there actually was some meat involved?

Yes there is the possiblity. Spanish meat has had clenbuterol.

"The UCI issued a statement reporting that the concentration was 50
picograms per millilitre, and that this was 400 times below the
minimum standards of detection capability required by WADA, and that
further scientific investigation would be required. Contador was
provisionally suspended from competition, although this had no short-
term effect as he had already finished his racing programme for the
2010 season.[96][97][98] Contador had been informed of the results
over a month earlier, on August 24.[99] Later the amount discovered
was clarified as 40 times below the minimum standards, rather than the
400 times originally reported by the UCI. Contador's scientific
adviser claimed that he would have needed 180 times the amount
detected to gain any benefit in his performance.[100]"
>
> Spanish cucumbers seem to be quite potent too.

== 14 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, May 31 2011 3:05 pm
From: Scott


On May 31, 2:35 pm, Randall <randall.shim...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 31, 8:53 am, Simply Fred <n...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>
> > Scott wrote:
> > > You think there actually was some meat involved?
>
> Yes there is the possiblity. Spanish meat has had clenbuterol.
>
> "The UCI issued a statement reporting that the concentration was 50
> picograms per millilitre, and that this was 400 times below the
> minimum standards of detection capability required by WADA, and that
> further scientific investigation would be required. Contador was
> provisionally suspended from competition, although this had no short-
> term effect as he had already finished his racing programme for the
> 2010 season.[96][97][98] Contador had been informed of the results
> over a month earlier, on August 24.[99] Later the amount discovered
> was clarified as 40 times below the minimum standards, rather than the
> 400 times originally reported by the UCI. Contador's scientific
> adviser claimed that he would have needed 180 times the amount
> detected to gain any benefit in his performance.[100]"
>
>
>
>

Really, you think there actually was some contaminated meat? Really??


==============================================================================
TOPIC: "The Onion" nails it, again.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/9a42609e948d70ae?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, May 31 2011 12:37 pm
From: Jimmy July


On 05/30/2011 11:01 AM, --D-y wrote:
> On May 30, 11:03 am, Jimmy July<F...@Burger.com> wrote:
>> http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/lance-armstrong-i-never-fa...
>
> They sure did.
> "Never (well, almost never!) failed a test" is a truly damning
> indictment of the "system", and the anti-doping zealots.
>
> Don't make rules you can't enforce.
> --D-y

http://www.gocomics.com/badreporter/2011/05/25


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, May 31 2011 1:42 pm
From: Frederick the Great


In article <4de5439d@news.x-privat.org>, Jimmy July <Fred@Burger.com>
wrote:

> http://www.gocomics.com/badreporter/2011/05/25

Don Asmussen is a shill for a political dogma.

--
Old Fritz


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NEWS
* ABCDE 2011 Addresses 'Broadening Opportunities for Development'
* Honduran Teens Land 'My First Job'
* $6 Billion for Egypt and Tunisia
* World Bank President Visits Brazil
* Attracting Investments to Africa
* Are We Really Assessing Development Impact?
* Video: Esther Duflo's Perspective on Fighting Poverty
* Podcast: Can We Get All Children in School and Learning by 2020?
 
 
 
EVENTS & DISCUSSIONS
* Broadening Opportunities for Development – ABCDE 2011
 
 
 
REGIONAL NEWS AND PROJECTS
 
Africa
East Asia and the Pacific
East Europe and Central Asia
Latin America and the Caribbean
Middle East and North Africa
South Asia
 
 
 
RESULTS
* Guinea-Bissau Revitalizes Agriculture Sector, Increases Rice Production
 
 
 
BUSINESS AND CAREER OPPORTUNITIES
* Sector Manager, Governance and Public Sector Management
 
 
 
ON THE BLOGS
* How Resilient Were Emerging Economies to the Global Crisis?
 
 
 
IN DEPTH
* Cities on the Front Line for Climate Action
 
 
 
DID YOU KNOW?
* Brain Drain Rates Are Not Skyrocketing
 
 
 
NEWS
 
 
ABCDE 2011 Addresses 'Broadening Opportunities for Development'
The Annual Bank Conference on Development Economics convenes this week in Paris. Watch webcasts, read blog posts from attendees, and follow @abcdewb for live updates. Blogs | Webcasts  
 
 
Honduran Teens Land 'My First Job'
A program in Honduras is helping underprivileged teenagers break the poverty cycle through training and subsidies that help them enter the job market. More than 4,000 teens have benefited. Read more
 
 
$6 Billion for Egypt and Tunisia
The Bank announced up to $6 billion in support over the next two years for Egypt and Tunisia to help the two post-revolutionary countries modernize their economies. Read more
 
 
World Bank President Visits Brazil
World Bank President Robert Zoellick will be in Brazil from May 31 to June 3 to discuss ways to broaden the Bank's partnership with the country. Zoellick will also address the C40 Large Cities Climate Summit in São Paulo. Read more
 
 
Attracting Investments to Africa
"As we celebrate Africa's day, it is very important that we not lose sight of the intent of its authors – that is, Africa's economic transformation through regionalism," said World Bank Vice President for Africa Obiageli Ezekwesili, on the occasion of Africa Day 2011. Read more  
 
 
Are We Really Assessing Development Impact?
In a robust debate on the blogs this week, Martin Ravallion, David McKenzie, and Berk Ozler discuss what development impact evaluations really measure. Read more  
 
 
Video: Esther Duflo's Perspective on Fighting Poverty
Esther Duflo, economics professor at MIT, talks about what works in development, and how small steps that bring incremental changes at the margin can take you far. Read more 
 
 
Podcast: Can We Get All Children in School and Learning by 2020?
Harvard EdCast interviews World Bank Economist Halsey Rogers on the Bank's new education strategy. Read more  
 
 
 
 
 
Broadening Opportunities for Development – ABCDE 2011
This year's Annual Bank Conference on Development Economicswill take place in Paris from May 30 - June 1, 2011, and will focus on inequalities of opportunity that lie at the heart of inequitable growth processes in developing countries. Join the debate on democratizing development economics. Watch Webcast, Submit Questions
 
 
 
 
Monthly Operational Summary of proposed projects in all regions.
 
Access to Information Find newly disclosed and declassified documents.
 
 
Africa
 
Financing Safety Nets for One Million in Niger
$70 million to implement a comprehensive social safety net system in Niger, where an estimated 60% of people lived below the poverty line in 2008 and more than half the population lacks food security. Read more
 
For more information on the Africa region...
 
 
East Asia and the Pacific
 
Road to Kerema - What's Life Like Without a Road?
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East Europe and Central Asia
 
What 'Learning for All' Means for Europe and Central Asia
By adopting a systems approach, ECA countries can embrace this opportunity to move away from central management of schools towards a more balanced system with appropriate levels of responsibility and accountability. Read more  
 
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Middle East and North Africa
 
West Bank, Gaza See Gains Against Corruption
Perception of corruption in West Bank and Gaza are high, but reported experience is low, according to a new report. The report also says that major reforms have been carried out, particularly in public finance, but there are still important reforms that remain incomplete. Read more  
 
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South Asia
 
Accelerating Highway Development in India
$350 million to improve highways in the state of Karnataka, India, where 39% of the core road network requires improvement to bring it into good or fair condition. Read more
 
For more information on the South Asia region…
 
 
RESULTS
 
 
Guinea-Bissau Revitalizes Agriculture Sector, Increases Rice Production
Once an exporter of rice, Guinea-Bissau struggled with food insecurity after international food prices rose dramatically in 2008. Since then, the country has attempted to revamp its agricultural production chain. Read more
 
 
 
 
 
 
Sector Manager, Governance and Public Sector Management
The Sector Manager is the principal link in the governance and public sector area with experts in and outside the Bank, playing a key role in fostering partnerships. The incumbent is also responsible for leading the implementation of the Bank's Governance and Anti-corruption Strategy in South Asia. Apply for job
 
 
 
 
 
 
How Resilient Were Emerging Economies to the Global Crisis?
Recent evidence shows that emerging economics in Latin America were not as resilient to the global economics crisis as previously thought, blogs World Bank chief economist for Latin America. Read blog  
 
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IN DEPTH
 
 
One billion urban poor in developing countries are at greater risk from climate change because they live on land in the most vulnerable areas of cities, exposed to landslides, sea-level rises, and flooding, says a new study from the World Bank, "Climate Change, Disaster Risk and the Urban Poor." Read more 
 
 
 
DID YOU KNOW?
 
 
Brain Drain Rates Are Not Skyrocketing
In this blog post that attempts to answer eight key questions about brain drain, David McKenzie says that recent evidence should counteract many of the myths and common concerns about the phenomenon. Brain drain rates are not skyrocketing, he writes. Read more  
 
 
 
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