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Today's topics:
* Carbon fork - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/1aef162d88354c1a?hl=en
* There *is* a race going on... (TdS) - 4 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/fb0032ff1b624fa8?hl=en
* Hey Dumbasses - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/7d492f75131152bf?hl=en
* The Lance Fanboy test for BL - 6 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/9abe5e1a6e312465?hl=en
* CNBC on Armstrong - 6 messages, 6 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/1644748500078f18?hl=en
* Drunk woman on cell phone runs down 11 cyclists - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/e0b5d269e5260ef7?hl=en
* If a member of Congress can come clean about pulling a boner - 4 messages, 4
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/e0589f29282781ed?hl=en
* Criterium du Dauphine, stage 7 summary - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/b0f7427b6a81ab0c?hl=en
* Tour de Suisse, stage 6 summary - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/9ea0e63bb3e37b23?hl=en
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TOPIC: Carbon fork
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/1aef162d88354c1a?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jun 15 2011 9:01 pm
From: Phil H
On Jun 15, 5:31 pm, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 15, 4:25 pm, "A. Dumas" <alexan...@dumas.fr.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Can somebody please give one to Lafferty so that it may explode and make
> > him die a horrible death? Ta.
>
> Does Laff have ForkSTRONG bracelets? He might have immunity.
Fork Q2 is a well worn articulation but worth mentioning.
Phil H
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TOPIC: There *is* a race going on... (TdS)
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/fb0032ff1b624fa8?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 16 2011 2:01 am
From: Fredmaster of Brainerd
On Wednesday, June 15, 2011 1:22:02 AM UTC-7, birdbrain wrote:
> On Jun 14, 6:50 pm, RicodJour <rico...@worldemail.com> wrote:
> > On Jun 14, 12:17 am, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > OK, we had one of the most-incredible climbs & descents ever (the Grosse
> > > Scheidegg) and at the very least puzzling performance(?) by the only
> > > person many think could challenge AC at the TdF, and nobody here cares?
> >
> > Horner's at the TdSuisse? ;) The TdS is just plain eye candy. It
> > could be one of those TV programs where they just shoot aerial video
> > and either play music or have some droning background voice and I'd
> > still watch it. I've never ridden in Switzerland (and assume that you
> > have), and I'd like to do so in the next year or two at the most.
> > It's a small country so I guess I'll be able to see most of it in a
> > couple of days, right?
> >
> > R
>
> You can ride through it 2 days if you're a climber.
Be careful, as that area can be quite
dangerous for climbers:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072926/
Thanks for the youtube link for stage 3.
Fredmaster Ben
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 16 2011 2:35 am
From: ilan
On Jun 14, 6:17 am, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com>
wrote:
> OK, we had one of the most-incredible climbs & descents ever (the Grosse
> Scheidegg) and at the very least puzzling performance(?) by the only
> person many think could challenge AC at the TdF, and nobody here cares?
> Did I miss the charter requirement that every post has to somehow be
> relevant to a discussion of Lance Armstrong?
>
> If we remove from RBR all posts from either BL, his proxies, and anyone
> he might consider a Lance Fanboy, this place gets pretty thin.
>
> NOBODY watched today's stage and thought WOW, I would love to go ride
> that? Or, what sort of nutcase (oh crap, I was trying to keep this
> LA-free) designs a finish like that? Or how did Paul & Bob Roll screw up
> on who crashed (not Sagan)? Or how can Andy hope to win the TdF if he
> doesn't feel comfortable descending with the best, preferring to sit off
> the back a bit on the descents?
>
> --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com
Actually, I want to ride up the Kleine Scheidegg, because it's smaller
and that's where there are the telescopes to watch the climbers on the
Eiger North Face.
-ilan
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 16 2011 7:15 am
From: RicodJour
On Jun 16, 5:35 am, ilan <ilan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Actually, I want to ride up the Kleine Scheidegg, because it's smaller
That reads like a Google Translation of German porn movie dialogue.
R
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 16 2011 8:41 am
From: ilan
On Jun 14, 6:17 am, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com>
wrote:
> OK, we had one of the most-incredible climbs & descents ever (the Grosse
> Scheidegg) and at the very least puzzling performance(?) by the only
> person many think could challenge AC at the TdF, and nobody here cares?
> Did I miss the charter requirement that every post has to somehow be
> relevant to a discussion of Lance Armstrong?
>
> If we remove from RBR all posts from either BL, his proxies, and anyone
> he might consider a Lance Fanboy, this place gets pretty thin.
>
> NOBODY watched today's stage and thought WOW, I would love to go ride
> that? Or, what sort of nutcase (oh crap, I was trying to keep this
> LA-free) designs a finish like that? Or how did Paul & Bob Roll screw up
> on who crashed (not Sagan)? Or how can Andy hope to win the TdF if he
> doesn't feel comfortable descending with the best, preferring to sit off
> the back a bit on the descents?
>
> --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com
After watching the racing, I'm slightly revising my opinion of the
chaotic riding style I've seen on Swiss rides -- it appears that the
local terrain encourages it, as seen in the Tour de Suisse chaotic
finishes.
Since I can't climb at all, I'm going to find Urs Freuler's training
routes http://www.ursfreuler.ch/site/index.php?id=21
-ilan
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TOPIC: Hey Dumbasses
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/7d492f75131152bf?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 16 2011 2:03 am
From: Fredmaster of Brainerd
On Wednesday, June 15, 2011 2:56:08 PM UTC-7, Fred Flintstein wrote:
> Stop trying to engage Lafferty in rational conversation. He's
> not capable of that. You guys are just feeding his obsession.
> Knock it off!
>
> I admit I've spent time following him up in order to dump on
> him. But there's no point in that either. So I've stopped.
>
> Stop feeding his obsession. Let him deal with it in the scary
> dark recesses of his mental illness.
>
> F
I apologize.
Sometimes, you have to be careful not to
stare too long at the douchenozzle, lest the
douchenozzle stare back at you.
Fredmaster Ben
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TOPIC: The Lance Fanboy test for BL
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/9abe5e1a6e312465?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 16 2011 3:10 am
From: Simply Fred
Fred Flintstein wrote:
> I have faith in perl.
But Lafferty is partly implemented in brainFuck.
== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 16 2011 4:21 am
From: BL
On 6/15/2011 10:45 PM, RicodJour wrote:
> On Jun 15, 9:01 pm, "derFah...@gmail.com"<derfah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The ironic thing is that BL's assholiness is enough turn even a LANCE
>> hater into a Fanboy.
>
> People that go out of their way to talk shit almost always are getting
> the shit served up to them at home and/or work. Flinging it at other
> people is their way of divesting themselves of some of the load. You
> don't have to be a willing recipient.
>
> R
If you bother to look at threads I've begun, you will see that,
generally, I only give shit when first given same.
== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 16 2011 4:22 am
From: BL
On 6/16/2011 6:10 AM, Simply Fred wrote:
> Fred Flintstein wrote:
>> I have faith in perl.
>
> But Lafferty is partly implemented in brainFuck.
>
OH, that's like a dagger to my heart. How will I ever survive?? ROTFLMAO!!!
== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 16 2011 5:46 am
From: Simply Fred
Fred Flintstein wrote:
>>> I have faith in perl.
Simply Fred wrote:
>> But Lafferty is partly implemented in brainFuck.
BL wrote:
> OH, that's like a dagger to my heart.
<http://search.cpan.org/dist/Lingua-Shakespeare/lib/Lingua/Shakespeare.pod>
== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 16 2011 5:56 pm
From: "Mike Jacoubowsky"
"RicodJour" <ricodjour@worldemail.com> wrote in message
news:6be7855b-f0a8-4ff0-84ba-0141e13614e3@u19g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 15, 6:57 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com>
wrote:
> "BL" <b...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > On 6/15/2011 4:48 PM, Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> >> "BL" <b...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >>> On 6/15/2011 2:37 PM, Fredmaster of Brainerd wrote:
> >>>> On Wednesday, June 15, 2011 10:46:38 AM UTC-7, BL wrote:
> >>>>> On 6/15/2011 12:51 PM, Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> >>>>>> "BL"<b...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> >>>>>>> Lok in the mirror. Mirror, mirror on the wall, who's the fairest
> >>>>>>> Lance
> >>>>>>> Fanboy of all? LOL!!
>
> >>>>>> So you can't rise about school-yard name-calling?
>
> >>>>> Why should I? This is rbr. In your case I guess you're a
> >>>>> BusinessFuckTard selling Treks.
>
> >>>> Why should you? Please see my question about
> >>>> whether you believe that you hold any responsibility
> >>>> for making rbr what it is today, or if it was
> >>>> solely the Lance Fanboys' doing.
>
> >>>> Mike is also one of the more polite and civilized
> >>>> regular posters to rbr. I mean, if you call me a
> >>>> FuckTard (tm), that's almost normal, but if you can't
> >>>> have a conversation with Mike without trotting
> >>>> out the juvenile name-calling, it says something
> >>>> about the confidence you have in the logic of
> >>>> your arguments.
>
> >>>> Fredmaster Ben
>
> >>>> p.s.
> >>>> Incidentally, why is FuckTard always in CamelCase
> >>>> (capitals inside the word)? That's a common
> >>>> programming convention, so I wonder if it is one
> >>>> of your internal variables being exposed to the
> >>>> outside interface.
> >>> Mike has been acting more like a Fanboy of late. As to your
> >>> question/issue. I have no interest or need to discuss such matters
> >>> with morons such as you. Cheers! :-)
>
> >> And if you'd provide examples or a definition, we could learn what,
> >> exactly, a "Lance Fanboy" is. So far, the only thing I can figure is
> >> that anybody who questions anything about issues with the government's
> >> side of the investigation becomes a "Lance Fanboy." Is it that simple?
> >> If that's the case, then I'd guess that a huge number of people who
> >> believe that Lance doped and should come to terms with that are also
> >> "Lance Fanboys." We'll make it simple for you. Just answer these two
> >> questions-
>
> >> #1: If someone believes that there are issues with any aspect of the
> >> investigation into Lance's past, issues that would call into question
> >> the ability to make a strong case, is that peson a "Lance Fanboy?" If
> >> yes, then-
>
> >> #2: If passing the first test, if that same person also believes that
> >> Lance did, in fact, dope, and has to come to terms with that publicly,
> >> is that person still a "Lance Fanboy?" Remembering still that they may
> >> be critical of some aspects of the investigation so far, critical of
> >> things that they feel make it difficult to bring about any sort of
> >> successful criminal prosecution?
>
> > Got any fact issues regarding the Armstrong situation that you'd like to
> > discuss without any personal comments?
>
> You cannot or won't answer the questions?
=======
Does it matter? Why?
You seem to be of the belief that our resident troll will, through the
brute force of your inescapable logic and your tenacity in trying to
achieve a more civil discourse, will change into something other than
a troll.
You would have made a good priest, Mike. You have faith.
R
=======
Or Village Idiot.
--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 16 2011 6:15 pm
From: RicodJour
On Jun 16, 8:56 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com>
wrote:
> "RicodJour" <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:6be7855b-f0a8-4ff0-84ba-0141e13614e3@u19g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 15, 6:57 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "BL" <b...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > > On 6/15/2011 4:48 PM, Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> > >> "BL" <b...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > >>> On 6/15/2011 2:37 PM, Fredmaster of Brainerd wrote:
> > >>>> On Wednesday, June 15, 2011 10:46:38 AM UTC-7, BL wrote:
> > >>>>> On 6/15/2011 12:51 PM, Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> > >>>>>> "BL"<b...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> > >>>>>>> Lok in the mirror. Mirror, mirror on the wall, who's the fairest
> > >>>>>>> Lance
> > >>>>>>> Fanboy of all? LOL!!
>
> > >>>>>> So you can't rise about school-yard name-calling?
>
> > >>>>> Why should I? This is rbr. In your case I guess you're a
> > >>>>> BusinessFuckTard selling Treks.
>
> > >>>> Why should you? Please see my question about
> > >>>> whether you believe that you hold any responsibility
> > >>>> for making rbr what it is today, or if it was
> > >>>> solely the Lance Fanboys' doing.
>
> > >>>> Mike is also one of the more polite and civilized
> > >>>> regular posters to rbr. I mean, if you call me a
> > >>>> FuckTard (tm), that's almost normal, but if you can't
> > >>>> have a conversation with Mike without trotting
> > >>>> out the juvenile name-calling, it says something
> > >>>> about the confidence you have in the logic of
> > >>>> your arguments.
>
> > >>>> Fredmaster Ben
>
> > >>>> p.s.
> > >>>> Incidentally, why is FuckTard always in CamelCase
> > >>>> (capitals inside the word)? That's a common
> > >>>> programming convention, so I wonder if it is one
> > >>>> of your internal variables being exposed to the
> > >>>> outside interface.
> > >>> Mike has been acting more like a Fanboy of late. As to your
> > >>> question/issue. I have no interest or need to discuss such matters
> > >>> with morons such as you. Cheers! :-)
>
> > >> And if you'd provide examples or a definition, we could learn what,
> > >> exactly, a "Lance Fanboy" is. So far, the only thing I can figure is
> > >> that anybody who questions anything about issues with the government's
> > >> side of the investigation becomes a "Lance Fanboy." Is it that simple?
> > >> If that's the case, then I'd guess that a huge number of people who
> > >> believe that Lance doped and should come to terms with that are also
> > >> "Lance Fanboys." We'll make it simple for you. Just answer these two
> > >> questions-
>
> > >> #1: If someone believes that there are issues with any aspect of the
> > >> investigation into Lance's past, issues that would call into question
> > >> the ability to make a strong case, is that peson a "Lance Fanboy?" If
> > >> yes, then-
>
> > >> #2: If passing the first test, if that same person also believes that
> > >> Lance did, in fact, dope, and has to come to terms with that publicly,
> > >> is that person still a "Lance Fanboy?" Remembering still that they may
> > >> be critical of some aspects of the investigation so far, critical of
> > >> things that they feel make it difficult to bring about any sort of
> > >> successful criminal prosecution?
>
> > > Got any fact issues regarding the Armstrong situation that you'd like to
> > > discuss without any personal comments?
>
> > You cannot or won't answer the questions?
>
> =======
> Does it matter? Why?
>
> You seem to be of the belief that our resident troll will, through the
> brute force of your inescapable logic and your tenacity in trying to
> achieve a more civil discourse, will change into something other than
> a troll.
>
> You would have made a good priest, Mike. You have faith.
>
> R
> =======
>
> Or Village Idiot.
Sorry, RBR already has one of those - the position's taken. ;)
R
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TOPIC: CNBC on Armstrong
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/1644748500078f18?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 16 2011 8:00 am
From: --D-y
On Jun 15, 10:01 pm, Brad Anders <pband...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 15, 2:41 pm, Vagina Gorilla <vaginagori...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I went looking for some footage from today where the Aspen
> > confrontation was described as just short of a fistfight. But found
> > this
>
> >http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000023565
>
> re: LA committing fraud - the one guy said that USPS invested $23M,
> but got a return of $103M from the engagement. Can someone explain to
> me how if USPS got more in return than they invested that they were
> defrauded?
Well, if you listened to the commentator, it's because USPS "lost"
billions of dollars last year!
The sharks are circling the USPS and have been doing so for a long
time. A little nip here, a head-butt there from the cowardly sharks,
and once the prey is immobilized, they will go in for the feeding
frenzy. And your mail will follow the trail blazed by the
privatization of the airlines-- poor service backed by rudeness, and
the whole rest of the nine yards.
Of course, if the USPS were allowed to Compete in the Free Market (did
I hear trumpets, or was that angels?), and charge a better price for
bulk mail, for one thing, USPS might all of a sudden magically turn
the show around. But that's part of the attack, "see above". Corporate-
owned-media brainwashing: Post Office Bad! Post Office Bad! (etc.
etc.).
> Oh, and to state it for another time: I'm certain everyone on USPS was
> in a doping program, and that everyone on the team knew what everyone
> else was doing. Just like the rest of the peloton. It's a pro sport.
"On the team" to include owners/managers, everyone on down to the poor
schleps who wash the bikes. Institutionalized doping in a sport, like
all other sports, that has had doping since before they started.
Sanity check (ironic in this context, no? Brian?) concludes.
Thanks, I do feel a little better.
--D-y
== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 16 2011 8:06 am
From: ilan
On Jun 16, 5:01 am, Brad Anders <pband...@gmail.com> wrote:
> re: LA committing fraud - the one guy said that USPS invested $23M,
> but got a return of $103M from the engagement. Can someone explain to
> me how if USPS got more in return than they invested that they were
> defrauded?
Why do I have to go to rbr to read this? Why is it that the "experts"
who are paid to comment on cycling can figure out stuff like this?
-ilan
== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 16 2011 8:13 am
From: Anton Berlin
On Jun 15, 10:01 pm, Brad Anders <pband...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 15, 2:41 pm, Vagina Gorilla <vaginagori...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I went looking for some footage from today where the Aspen
> > confrontation was described as just short of a fistfight. But found
> > this
>
> >http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000023565
>
> re: LA committing fraud - the one guy said that USPS invested $23M,
> but got a return of $103M from the engagement. Can someone explain to
> me how if USPS got more in return than they invested that they were
> defrauded?
>
> Oh, and to state it for another time: I'm certain everyone on USPS was
> in a doping program, and that everyone on the team knew what everyone
> else was doing. Just like the rest of the peloton. It's a pro sport.
A lot of Madoff investors made money - doesn't mean there wasn't fraud
== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 16 2011 9:25 am
From: Brad Anders
On Jun 16, 8:13 am, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 15, 10:01 pm, Brad Anders <pband...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 15, 2:41 pm, Vagina Gorilla <vaginagori...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I went looking for some footage from today where the Aspen
> > > confrontation was described as just short of a fistfight. But found
> > > this
>
> > >http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000023565
>
> > re: LA committing fraud - the one guy said that USPS invested $23M,
> > but got a return of $103M from the engagement. Can someone explain to
> > me how if USPS got more in return than they invested that they were
> > defrauded?
>
> > Oh, and to state it for another time: I'm certain everyone on USPS was
> > in a doping program, and that everyone on the team knew what everyone
> > else was doing. Just like the rest of the peloton. It's a pro sport.
>
> A lot of Madoff investors made money - doesn't mean there wasn't fraud- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Yeah, agree, but plenty of Madoff's investors were left holding the
bag, too. Hard to see who got filtched here. Even as a fan I got what
I wanted to see, a fully dope-fueled battle royale between the finest
pharmaceutical companies in the world.
== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 16 2011 11:22 am
From: "Dave Lee"
"Anton Berlin" wrote in message
news:6b1dae28-feb4-4b6e-9480-cff85fe6bdca@17g2000prr.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 15, 10:01 pm, Brad Anders <pband...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 15, 2:41 pm, Vagina Gorilla <vaginagori...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I went looking for some footage from today where the Aspen
> > confrontation was described as just short of a fistfight. But found
> > this
>
> >http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000023565
>
> re: LA committing fraud - the one guy said that USPS invested $23M,
> but got a return of $103M from the engagement. Can someone explain to
> me how if USPS got more in return than they invested that they were
> defrauded?
>
> Oh, and to state it for another time: I'm certain everyone on USPS was
> in a doping program, and that everyone on the team knew what everyone
> else was doing. Just like the rest of the peloton. It's a pro sport.
A lot of Madoff investors made money - doesn't mean there wasn't fraud
=========================
OTOH, I doubt that those folks are the ones who are considering filing suit
against Bernie.
dave
== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 16 2011 11:45 am
From: Vagina Gorilla
On Jun 16, 1:22 pm, "Dave Lee" <DaveLe...@ix.netcom.RemovE.com> wrote:
> "Anton Berlin" wrote in message
>
> news:6b1dae28-feb4-4b6e-9480-cff85fe6bdca@17g2000prr.googlegroups.com...
>
> On Jun 15, 10:01 pm, Brad Anders <pband...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 15, 2:41 pm, Vagina Gorilla <vaginagori...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I went looking for some footage from today where the Aspen
> > > confrontation was described as just short of a fistfight. But found
> > > this
>
> > >http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000023565
>
> > re: LA committing fraud - the one guy said that USPS invested $23M,
> > but got a return of $103M from the engagement. Can someone explain to
> > me how if USPS got more in return than they invested that they were
> > defrauded?
>
> > Oh, and to state it for another time: I'm certain everyone on USPS was
> > in a doping program, and that everyone on the team knew what everyone
> > else was doing. Just like the rest of the peloton. It's a pro sport.
>
> A lot of Madoff investors made money - doesn't mean there wasn't fraud
> =========================
> OTOH, I doubt that those folks are the ones who are considering filing suit
> against Bernie.
>
> dave
The govt is trying to settle the score so everyone is remedied the
best they can.
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TOPIC: Drunk woman on cell phone runs down 11 cyclists
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/e0b5d269e5260ef7?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 16 2011 8:42 am
From: Anton Berlin
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_bicyclists_struck
LOS ANGELES – A suspected drunken driver plowed into a group of
bicyclists on a midnight ride Thursday in Los Angeles, injuring 11,
one critically, police said.
The riders were in a group of about 100 cyclists that were struck by a
white Honda Civic shortly before 2 a.m. about 8 miles south of
downtown.
The crash injured 11 riders, including one person who was hospitalized
in critical condition but is expected to survive, said Officer
Jacquelyn Abad.
Some bicyclists told KTTV Fox 11 that the woman driving the car
appeared to be using a cell phone before the crash. They said she
slowed down, then sped up and slammed into the group, sending some
riders flying into the air and dragging at least one under her car.
Television reports showed the car's smashed front end and shattered
windshield.
The 27-year-old woman was booked for investigation of drunken driving.
Her name was not immediately released.
The bikers belonged to "Midnight Ridazz," a Koreatown bicycling group
that gets together for weekly midnight rides.
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TOPIC: If a member of Congress can come clean about pulling a boner
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/e0589f29282781ed?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 16 2011 11:44 am
From: Vagina Gorilla
Weiner went soft and resigned. He was the worst flip flopper ever.
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 16 2011 1:16 pm
From: Brad Anders
Weiner finally pulled out. It wasn't a hard choice.
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 16 2011 1:34 pm
From: Choppy Warburton
Finally a member of Congress exposed for being a dick
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 16 2011 2:00 pm
From: Simply Fred
Brad Anders wrote:
> Weiner finally pulled out. It wasn't a hard choice.
It wasn't premature anyway.
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TOPIC: Criterium du Dauphine, stage 7 summary
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/b0f7427b6a81ab0c?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 16 2011 11:47 am
From: Uncle Dave
On Jun 13, 10:07 am, Simply Fred <n...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> Bob Martin wrote:
> > Top 10 and favourites GC standings (previous stage in parens) :
> > 1 Bradley Wiggins 26:40:51 (unchanged)
>
> I wonder if Bwadwee hasn't peaked a tad early if a TDF podium is his aim ?
Ah, but if he aims to *win* the Tour when all the favourites are
inevitably kicked off one by one, he needs to go that little bit
further...
UD
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TOPIC: Tour de Suisse, stage 6 summary
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/9ea0e63bb3e37b23?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 16 2011 2:02 pm
From: Bob Martin
Stage 6 : Jun 16, Tobel-Tagerschen - Triesenberg/Malbun, 157.7 km
1 Steven Kruijswijk (Ned) Rabobank Cycling Team 4.12.03
2 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Team RadioShack 0.09
3 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Lampre - ISD 0.18
4 Bauke Mollema (Ned) Rabobank Cycling Team 0.21
5 Giampaolo Caruso (Ita) Katusha Team
6 Frank Schleck (Lux) Leopard Trek 0.30
7 Mathias Frank (Swi) BMC Racing Team
8 Laurens Ten Dam (Ned) Rabobank Cycling Team 1.19
9 Jakob Fuglsang (Den) Leopard Trek 1.27
10 Tom Danielson (USA) Team Garmin-Cervelo 1.42
Changes in GC, stage 6 compared to stage 5 :
Biggest gainers by position :
+46 Leopold Konig
+42 Dominique Nerz
+28 Alan Perez Lezaun
+26 Martin Velits
+26 Artem Ovechkin
+25 Alberto Losada Alguacil
+23 Marcel Sieberg
+23 Alexander Gottfried
+22 Peter Velits
+22 Jose Ivan Gutierrez Palacios
Biggest losers by position :
-19 Brent Bookwalter
-19 Christopher Froome
-19 Sergey Lagutin
-18 Andreas Dietziker
-18 Angel Madrazo Ruiz
-17 Daniel Sesma
-17 Dmitriy Muravyev
-17 Greg Van Avermaet
-17 Peter Sagan
-17 Simon Clarke
-16 Bartosz Huzarski
Biggest gainers by time :
+0:24 Steven Kruijswijk
+0:11 Levi Leipheimer
Biggest losers by time :
-21:30 Alessandro Ballan
-21:30 Alessandro Bazzana
-21:30 Andreas Dietziker
-21:30 Assan Bazayev
-21:30 Baden Cooke
-21:30 Bartosz Huzarski
-21:30 Ben Swift
-21:30 Bernhard Eisel
-21:30 Bert Grabsch
-21:30 Borut Bozic
-21:30 Brent Bookwalter
Favourites by position :
+19 Sylvain Chavanel
+9 Christian Vande Velde
+8 Andreas Kloden
+6 Jens Voigt
+5 Levi Leipheimer
+3 Ryder Hesjedal
+2 Frank Schleck
-3 Danilo Di Luca
-6 Stuart O'Grady
-6 Fabian Cancellara
-7 Alessandro Ballan
-8 Linus Gerdemann
-8 Andy Schleck
Favourites by time :
+0:11 Levi Leipheimer
-0:16 Frank Schleck
-2:07 Danilo Di Luca
-8:06 Ryder Hesjedal
-8:06 Christian Vande Velde
-8:06 Andreas Kloden
-8:43 Sylvain Chavanel
-14:01 Linus Gerdemann
-14:01 Jens Voigt
-14:01 Andy Schleck
-20:48 Fabian Cancellara
-21:30 Stuart O'Grady
-21:30 Alessandro Ballan
Top 10 and favourites GC standings (previous stage in parens) :
1 Damiano Cunego 21:26:28 (unchanged)
2 Bauke Mollema 1:23 (was 3rd at 1:16)
3 Steven Kruijswijk 1:36 (was 9th at 2:00)
4 Frank Schleck 1:41 (was 6th at 1:25)
5 Levi Leipheimer 1:59 (was 10th at 2:10)
6 Laurens ten Dam 2:24 (was 4th at 1:19)
7 Jakob Fuglsang 2:45 (was 7th at 1:32)
8 Mathias Frank 3:10 (was 12th at 2:44)
9 Giampaolo Caruso 3:11 (was 13th at 3:04)
10 Tejay Van Garderen 3:22 (was 5th at 1:21)
11 Danilo Di Luca 4:00 (was 8th at 1:53)
.....
22 Linus Gerdemann 17:10 (was 14th at 3:09)
23 Ryder Hesjedal 18:17 (was 26th at 10:11)
.....
28 Andy Schleck 20:28 (was 20th at 6:27)
.....
37 Andreas Kloden 28:18 (was 45th at 20:12)
.....
41 Christian Vande Velde 30:42 (was 50th at 22:36)
.....
58 Sylvain Chavanel 39:52 (was 77th at 31:09)
.....
72 Jens Voigt 45:18 (was 78th at 31:17)
.....
90 Fabian Cancellara 53:35 (was 84th at 32:47)
.....
94 Alessandro Ballan 54:38 (was 87th at 33:08)
.....
110 Stuart O'Grady 59:09 (was 104th at 37:39)
Top 10 on Points table with previous in parens:
1 Lloyd Mondory 27 (unchanged)
2 Sylvain Chavanel 11 (was 11th with 2 points)
3 Gorka Izagirre Insausti 9 (was 0 points)
4 Alessandro Bazzana 7 (was 2nd with 7 points)
5 Jan Bakelants 6 (was 3rd with 6 points)
6 Andreas Dietziker 6 (was 4th with 6 points)
7 Jens Voigt 6 (was 5th with 6 points)
8 Jose Gutierrez Palacios 6 (was 6th with 6 points)
9 Cesare Benedetti 6 (was 7th with 6 points)
10 Daryl Impey 3 (was 8th with 3 points)
Top 10 on Mountains table with previous in parens:
1 Laurens Ten Dam 35 (was 1st with 34 points)
2 Damiano Cunego 30 (was 2nd with 24 points)
3 Steven Kruijswijk 20 (was 0 points)
4 Matti Breschel 20 (was 3rd with 20 points)
5 Lloyd Mondory 17 (was 4th with 17 points)
6 Levi Leipheimer 16 (was 14th with 6 points)
7 Giampaolo Caruso 15 (was 0 points)
8 Ryder Hesjedal 15 (was 5th with 15 points)
9 Sylvain Chavanel 14 (was 12th with 7 points)
10 Mathias Frank 12 (was 6th with 12 points)
Retirements to date : Stage
David Loosli (Swi) Lampre - ISD 6 <<<
Juan Mauricio Soler Hernandez (Col) Movistar Team 6 <<<
Laszlo Bodrogi (Fra) Team Type 1 - Sanofi Aventis 6 <<<
Maarten Wijnants (Bel) Rabobank Cycling Team 6 <<<
Matteo Carrara (Ita) Vacansoleil-DCM Pro Cycling Team 6 <<<
Oscar Freire Gomez (Spa) Rabobank Cycling Team 6 <<<
Scott Alan Stewart (USA) Team Type 1 - Sanofi Aventis 6 <<<
Eros Capecchi (Ita) Liquigas-Cannondale 5
Rinaldo Nocentini (Ita) AG2R La Mondiale 5
Alfredo Balloni (Ita) Lampre - ISD 3
Allan Davis (Aus) Pro Team Astana 3
Andrew Talansky (USA) Team Garmin-Cervelo 3
Cristiano Salerno (Ita) Liquigas-Cannondale 3
Gabriel Rasch (Nor) Team Garmin-Cervelo 3
Jussi Veikkanen (Fin) Omega Pharma-Lotto 3
Total retirements : 15
(This report can also be seen at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rvmartin2)
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