Friday, July 8, 2011

Re: Medarticles can u send me

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On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 10:35 AM, anandkumarreddy <anandkumarreddy@gmail.com> wrote:
Planta Med 1984; 50(1): 30-34 sent
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 11:55 AM, vishucrime dost <vishu1415@gmail.com> wrote:

hello sir i need this artical full can u help me

30  Inamdar, P. K.; Kanitkar, P. V.; Reden, J.; de Souza, N. J.:
Quantitative Determination of Forskolin by TLC and HPLC
Full Text:  PDF (344 kb)

Planta Med 1984; 50(1): 30-34
DOI: 10.1055/s-2007-969614

Quantitative Determination of Forskolin by TLC and HPLC

P. K. Inamdar, P. V. Kanitkar, J. Reden, N. J. de Souza
Research Centre, Hoechst Pharmaceutical Limited, Mulund, Bombay 400080, India

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Re: Medarticles Request paper

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On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Charlys Costa <charlys.costa@unifesp.br> wrote:
Hello,

I want followed article:
Curr Mol Med. 2011 Mar 1;11(2):93-109.

Practical Aspects of microRNA Target Prediction.

Witkos TM, Koscianska E, Krzyzosiak WJ.

Thank you

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rec.bicycles.racing - 25 new messages in 9 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* Serious question about a 'private' cycling club - closed routes - 7 messages,
7 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/ce27755f58e44ec5?hl=en
* What America needs is less leadership - more followship - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/655f5663904104ce?hl=en
* Negative Racing - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/e0dd4aa5751873d8?hl=en
* fuck you Greipel - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/8c275265b64e35bc?hl=en
* What to do about the blatant motor pacing. - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/04021635e45624f9?hl=en
* Theory of evolution proved - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/8865aafbdf70de99?hl=en
* Fuck - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/e7fb78e0da2ba76c?hl=en
* Team pursuit rules question - Sunny ? - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/56fceae5a8c4a2da?hl=en
* radioshack - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/44ef097735c048a2?hl=en

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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 1:42 pm
From: "mike.a.schwab@gmail.com"


On Jul 7, 3:57 pm, Choppy Warburton <choppywarbur...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> A wealthy friend of mine that is nervous about cycling in traffic
> thinks that he wants to buy some land and pave cycling paths and
> charge a membership for.
>
> I think it's impractical because cyclists like to assert themselves
> into traffic despite the risks and most enjoy the change and variety
> of using existing roads as well as the scenery they provide.
>
> Would this be a practical idea - would cyclists use it on a regular
> basis - and lastly what features would cyclists want included?
>
> Ideas already include a clubhouse, lockers and showers and storage
> area for bikes.
>
> TIA for any opinion / advice you can give

Campground & MTB trails. Perhaps extend the range by installing
gravel paths next to tree lines / property lines? I. E. widen the gap
between the plowed field and obstructions and build a gravel trail
there. Use the 3/8 with fines line mule drawn canal paths versus the
3/4 inch for cars.

http://www.rockyhillranchtexas.com/


== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 2:02 pm
From: James


On Jul 9, 4:14 am, Frank Krygowski <frkry...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 8, 1:12 am, James <james.e.stew...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > > But I guess that works for some people.  When visiting a friend in
> > > another town, I looked out the window and saw a woman in full roadie
> > > kit riding by on the drops.  Four minutes later, she came by again.
> > > And four minutes later, again.  And again.  And again...
>
> > Is that a rare sight for you where you live?  A woman in full roadie
> > kit?  Maybe she was training?  Some people enjoy riding and racing to
> > improve their fitness and ability, not for the scenery.
>
> It's not that rare to see a woman in a cycling outfit on a road bike.
> But at least around here, it's rare to see such a person riding around
> and around a suburban block.  Is that common in your area?

I don't take much notice, but I recall a few club riders would
occasionally go and ride around the industrial estate on weekends
where we used to race criteriums.

> I should perhaps mention that this town has lots of pleasant country
> roads around it.  It's about 50 miles from my home, and it's one of
> the places I really enjoy riding to.  There's also a long bike trail
> (for those who like them) about a mile away from where she was
> riding.  Personally, I'd prefer even that.

I'd prefer some variety too.

> But as I said, I guess the around and around thing works for some
> people.

Having a consistent training route is sometimes better to gauge ones
performance. Erg is the most consistent and most boring, IMO.

--
JS.


== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 2:10 pm
From: Lou Holtman


On 8 jul, 20:14, Frank Krygowski <frkry...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 8, 1:12 am, James <james.e.stew...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > > But I guess that works for some people.  When visiting a friend in
> > > another town, I looked out the window and saw a woman in full roadie
> > > kit riding by on the drops.  Four minutes later, she came by again.
> > > And four minutes later, again.  And again.  And again...
>
> > Is that a rare sight for you where you live?  A woman in full roadie
> > kit?  Maybe she was training?  Some people enjoy riding and racing to
> > improve their fitness and ability, not for the scenery.
>
> It's not that rare to see a woman in a cycling outfit on a road bike.
> But at least around here, it's rare to see such a person riding around
> and around a suburban block.  Is that common in your area?
>
> I should perhaps mention that this town has lots of pleasant country
> roads around it.  It's about 50 miles from my home, and it's one of
> the places I really enjoy riding to.  There's also a long bike trail
> (for those who like them) about a mile away from where she was
> riding.  Personally, I'd prefer even that.
>
> But as I said, I guess the around and around thing works for some
> people.
>
> - Frank Krygowski

Maybe she just went out for a exercise and didn't want to go far from
home. I have a short 3 km loop close to home were I do my interval
training. Two small climbs where I get my heartbeat to 90% and two
downhills were I can recover. Boring as hell, but very effective even
when it is dark. The 'Franks' in that street must also think 'what an
idiot' when I come by 15 times.....

Lou


== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 2:39 pm
From: AMuzi


landotter wrote:
> On Jul 7, 9:04 pm, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>> -snip snip-
>>
>> Dan O wrote:
>>> (Maybe they'll have Soma in the vending machines at the bike park,
>>> too.)
>> Quite a large facility if they cover all the Soma sizes and
>> models
>>
>> http://somafab.com/smoothie.html
>>
>> "Please deposit 1,680 quarters"
>
> Good one! Have you guys built up any of the Sagas? Is the fit and
> finish in the ballpark of the comparably priced Surlys?


Better finish, better materials, more models & sizes, lower
prices and the people are nice too. All rare features.

100+ year old outfit, they know what they are doing and they
do it very well.
http://www.merrysales.com/aboutus.html


--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 2:46 pm
From: kolldata


Traveling n-s on the west coast, I see new asphalt with wide
shoulders, and wider paving equipment bought as the old amortized. The
new shoulders are bike lanes.
You may not add that up staying within your locale. There's a lot of
new pavement.

I'm at Winthrop/Twisp east of the Cascades on 20. Farrar country and
20 has lanes on older pavement. Beaut rolling road good for long
distance training with moderate rolling hills, sweeping hi speed
corners. And because of the cpuntrysides tourist nature...the weather
is fantastic...traffic tend to be aware of cyclists.

I have a Bike Lanes photo group for a downhill out of the Cascades
down to the Columbia. I stop at Washington Pass on 20. The Pass is a
geezer run ! with 6-7 geezers climbing the Pass every 30 minutes.


== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 6:14 pm
From: ERSHC


On Fri, 8 Jul 2011 11:06:56 -0700 (PDT), Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 8, 12:02 am, --D-y <dustoyev...@mac.com> wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>> > > But I guess that works for some people.  When visiting a friend in
>> > > another town, I looked out the window and saw a woman in full roadie
>> > > kit riding by on the drops.  Four minutes later, she came by again.
>> > > And four minutes later, again.  And again.  And again...
>>

Oh come on, she was probably training for a crit.
Was there an occasional prime bell?


== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 9:55 pm
From: Tºm Shermªn °_° <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net">


On 7/8/2011 2:52 PM, landotter wrote:
> On Jul 7, 3:57 pm, Choppy Warburton<choppywarbur...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> A wealthy friend of mine that is nervous about cycling in traffic
>> thinks that he wants to buy some land and pave cycling paths and
>> charge a membership for.
>>
>> I think it's impractical because cyclists like to assert themselves
>> into traffic despite the risks and most enjoy the change and variety
>> of using existing roads as well as the scenery they provide.
>>
>> Would this be a practical idea - would cyclists use it on a regular
>> basis - and lastly what features would cyclists want included?
>>
>> Ideas already include a clubhouse, lockers and showers and storage
>> area for bikes.
>>
>> TIA for any opinion / advice you can give
>
> A paved criterium course would be fun, but the best option isn't
> pavement, it's a dirt pump track. Fairly cheap to build, and super
> fun.
>
> http://www.leelikesbikes.com/build-your-own-pump-track.html

Here is a paved cycle course, the Sloten Sportpark wielercurcuit:
<http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.337935,4.806125&hl=en&ll=52.337148,4.808192&spn=0.012954,0.041499&num=1&t=h&z=15>,
<http://www.nieuwwest.amsterdam.nl/publish/pages/287982/plattegrondtot2007voordekomstvandeturnhal.pdf>.

Maybe Lou Holtman can tell us how it is funded, and what the use
restrictions are?

View of the track during a race:
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTx7DKSlbPg&feature=player_embedded>.

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 2:14 pm
From: Vagina Gorilla


On Jul 7, 8:12 pm, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW8amMCVAJQ

Classic!

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TOPIC: Negative Racing
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 2:34 pm
From: Jimmy July


On 7/8/2011 10:06 AM, John Dacey wrote:
> Having a look through the results after stage 8, I find that the
> Movistar rider in last place in the points competition has accrued a
> score of minus five.
>
> How is one awarded negative points?

He rode stage 3 backwards.


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 2:42 pm
From: Fred Flintstein


On 7/8/2011 12:06 PM, John Dacey wrote:
> Having a look through the results after stage 8, I find that the
> Movistar rider in last place in the points competition has accrued a
> score of minus five.
>
> How is one awarded negative points?
>
>
> -------------------------------
> John Dacey
> Business Cycles, Miami, Florida
> Our 28th year
> http://businesscycles.com
> -------------------------------

http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/article/tour-de-france-rules-frequently-asked-questions-17218/

How do you get a negative number of points in the points classification?

A number of readers have commented on a curiosity in the points
classification in the fight for the green jersey, where some riders
actually have negative points. This arises because the organisers
impose penalties for various infractions in a number of ways. The most
common is a fine of so many Swiss Francs. A harsher penalty is to
deduct time from the rider's GC time, or deduct points from their
points tally. If the rider has been particularly naughty, they will be
disqualified from the race.

Riders can be penalised in a lot of ways, e.g. hanging onto a team car,
or taking too many "bottles" from the director sportif; answering the
call of nature in front of the public (when you gotta go, you gotta
go); causing another rider to crash, or otherwise riding dangerously in
the bunch; hitching a ride to the finish in the Tour director,
Christian Prudhomme's car; giving spectators the evil eye, and so on.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 5:30 pm
From: John Dacey


On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 16:42:12 -0500, Fred Flintstein
<bob.schwartz@sbcremoveglobal.net> wrote:

>On 7/8/2011 12:06 PM, John Dacey wrote:
>> Having a look through the results after stage 8,
Oops, that should've been 'stage 7'
>> I find that the
>> Movistar rider in last place in the points competition has accrued a
>> score of minus five.
>>
>> How is one awarded negative points?

>
>http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/article/tour-de-france-rules-frequently-asked-questions-17218/
>
>How do you get a negative number of points in the points classification?
>
>A number of readers have commented on a curiosity in the points
>classification in the fight for the green jersey, where some riders
>actually have negative points. This arises because the organisers
>impose penalties for various infractions in a number of ways. The most
>common is a fine of so many Swiss Francs. A harsher penalty is to
>deduct time from the rider's GC time, or deduct points from their
>points tally. If the rider has been particularly naughty, they will be
>disqualified from the race.

I might've figured as much: that whole 'less than zero', nihilistic
stuff is so uniquely Fwench. Minus points - très existentielle, non?

Sincere thanks for your answer. Sets up a whole new statistic to
follow, like the Lanterne Rouge. Who holds the record for accumulating
the most negative points (without being ejected) in a Tour?

Bummer today about that Wiggly Braggins injury.

-------------------------------
John Dacey
Business Cycles, Miami, Florida
http://businesscycles.com
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 2:51 pm
From: Andre


...you heard me

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TOPIC: What to do about the blatant motor pacing.
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 4:50 pm
From: Frederick the Great


I have a modest proposal for the blatant motor pacing
going on: tell those nosy parker camera motos to get
out of there. Problem solved.

--
Old Fritz


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 5:00 pm
From: Phil H


On Jul 8, 4:50 pm, Frederick the Great <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> I have a modest proposal for the blatant motor pacing
> going on: tell those nosy parker camera motos to get
> out of there. Problem solved.
>
> --
> Old Fritz

The motor pacing is a symptom of another problem; too big a field
combined with to narrow a roadway. The winner shouldn't be decided on
who managed to avoid a crash but who is the best rider. This year is
turning out to be a real crap shoot.

Phil H


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 6:16 pm
From: Zenon


On Jul 8, 5:00 pm, Phil H <pholma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 8, 4:50 pm, Frederick the Great <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > I have a modest proposal for the blatant motor pacing
> > going on: tell those nosy parker camera motos to get
> > out of there. Problem solved.
>
> > --
> > Old Fritz
>
> The motor pacing is a symptom of another problem; too big a field
> combined with to narrow a roadway. The winner shouldn't be decided on
> who managed to avoid a crash but who is the best rider. This year is
> turning out to be a real crap shoot.
>
> Phil H
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kcpKnCiXSs&feature=related
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-Pl-H3UJJg&feature=related
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YejHXNEP96A&feature=related
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbqZwp9tBVQ&feature=related
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbT8N42QJik&feature=related
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8176C-2JdQ8&feature=related
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUgXtZFdUcs&feature=related
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m1EFMoRFvY
.
.

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TOPIC: Theory of evolution proved
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 5:06 pm
From: Phil H


On Jul 8, 7:26 am, ilan <ilan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://abcnews.go.com/US/york-rider-dies-protesting-motorcycle-helmet...
>
> -ilan

This only works if the subject has not procreated? He was 55 years old
and has done all the procreating he's going to do.
Phil H


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 5:47 pm
From: ilan


On Jul 9, 2:06 am, Phil H <pholma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 8, 7:26 am, ilan <ilan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >http://abcnews.go.com/US/york-rider-dies-protesting-motorcycle-helmet...
>
> > -ilan
>
> This only works if the subject has not procreated? He was 55 years old
> and has done all the procreating he's going to do.
> Phil H

Just another creationist counter-argument.

-ilan


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 8:02 pm
From: Phil H


On Jul 8, 5:47 pm, ilan <ilan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 9, 2:06 am, Phil H <pholma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 8, 7:26 am, ilan <ilan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >http://abcnews.go.com/US/york-rider-dies-protesting-motorcycle-helmet...
>
> > > -ilan
>
> > This only works if the subject has not procreated? He was 55 years old
> > and has done all the procreating he's going to do.
> > Phil H
>
> Just another creationist counter-argument.
>
> -ilan

There's nothing wrong with the theory of evolution; it's your proof
that sucks.
Phil H

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 7:49 pm
From: Chuckie


http://video.bicycling.com/video/Chris-Horner-Post-Stage-7-Crash


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 9:40 pm
From: RicodJour


On Jul 8, 10:49 pm, Chuckie <chuc...@yoyoma.com> wrote:
>
> http://video.bicycling.com/video/Chris-Horner-Post-Stage-7-Crash

Damn. That's scary. They're putting him on the stretcher, and he's
asking when the accident happened and if he finished. Oh boy.

R

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 9:00 pm
From: Anton Berlin


In a team pursuit one of the teams overlaps a wheel before the
completion of the first lap causing one of its riders to crash.

Do the rules allow the race to be restarted with 4 riders each or
should both teams continue with the riders they have ?

Thanks


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 9:13 pm
From: Anton Berlin


Think I found it. In a final they have to continue after the first
half lap. Otherwise they are charged with a mishap.

I think this rule was violated tonight at the Junior championships.
The USA team crashed after the first half lap (or very near it) and
was given a restart which they won.

On a good note this kid Matt Baranoski did a 105 kilo (which is pretty
incredible for the lousy superdrome) and also easily won the sprints

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 8:57 pm
From: Randall


On Jul 8, 9:57 am, atriage <atri...@notvalid.net> wrote:
> On 08/07/2011 16:43, RicodJour wrote:
>
> > On Jul 8, 11:18 am, atriage<atri...@notvalid.net>  wrote:
> >> On 08/07/2011 16:07, atriage wrote:
>
> >>> Still getting plenty of crash practise in I see.
>
> >> Another one, looks like Wiggins is out, Horner's on the ground too.
>
> > I didn't see the Horner crash, but he's five minutes back or
> > something.
>
> He finished 12.41 down, that's gonna take some getting back, I wouldn't be
> surprised to see him abandon in the next few days. That was a crash with
> consequences.
>
> --

Levi will not drop out because he is a professional and has
responsibilities to the team and the sponsors. Horner probably will
drop out because he broke his nose. RS needs to make the best of the
TDF to look good to the sponsor.


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 9:40 pm
From: Randall


Radioshack's recent spate of crashes show a surprising lack of
organization or strength. If Lance was still riding this never would
have happened. I can't believe that RS was not protecting it's leaders
better. In the 1995 TDF Indurain was riding slightly off the front to
avoid the crashes. I am even more astonished that Bruyneel did not
take more steps to avoid these crashes. After all we are talking about
one of the best teams in the sport now.

On Jul 8, 8:07 am, atriage <atri...@notvalid.net> wrote:
> Still getting plenty of crash practise in I see.
> --

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 9:44 pm
From: RicodJour


On Jul 9, 12:40 am, Randall <randall.shim...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Radioshack's recent spate of crashes show a surprising lack of
> organization or strength. If Lance was still riding this never would
> have happened. I can't believe that RS was not protecting it's leaders
> better. In the 1995 TDF Indurain was riding slightly off the front to
> avoid the crashes. I am even more astonished that Bruyneel did not
> take more steps to avoid these crashes. After all we are talking about
> one of the best teams in the sport now.

Gee...I wonder why nobody else thought to stay in the front to stay
out of trouble. Or why the other five riders on Radioshack couldn't
form a protective ring around RS' 4 GC hopefuls. Maybe they could
have held hands to keep other riders out. But I see your point.
LANCE's magical aura created a force field around anyone riding on his
team. I wonder if that's allowed under UCI rules? Maybe they changed
the rules since LANCE retired.

R


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* Negative Racing - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/e0dd4aa5751873d8?hl=en
* Christopher Horner (USA) Team RadioShack - 10 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/d71f6fbe2a9c010a?hl=en
* Serious question about a 'private' cycling club - closed routes - 9 messages,
5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/ce27755f58e44ec5?hl=en
* XXX HOT PHOTOS & VIDEOS - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/52956f5b3926aeb3?hl=en
* Tour de France, stage 7 summary - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Magilla Gorilla vs. Casey Anthony - 1 messages, 1 author
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* radioshack - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: Negative Racing
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/e0dd4aa5751873d8?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 10:06 am
From: John Dacey


Having a look through the results after stage 8, I find that the
Movistar rider in last place in the points competition has accrued a
score of minus five.

How is one awarded negative points?


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Business Cycles, Miami, Florida
Our 28th year
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 10:09 am
From: atriage


On 08/07/2011 18:06, John Dacey wrote:
> Having a look through the results after stage 8, I find that the
> Movistar rider in last place in the points competition has accrued a
> score of minus five.
>
> How is one awarded negative points?
>

He was penalised for being from Costa Rica.

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TOPIC: Christopher Horner (USA) Team RadioShack
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/d71f6fbe2a9c010a?hl=en
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== 1 of 10 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 10:11 am
From: "rick-paulos@uiowa.edu"


On Jul 8, 11:39 am, Zenon <zenon_jask...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> He took in the shorts today for 12 minutes and 41 seconds.

news reports differ. Some say 3 minutes down. Maybe he switched bikes
with a team mate.

== 2 of 10 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 10:12 am
From: "rick-paulos@uiowa.edu"


On Jul 8, 12:11 pm, "rick-pau...@uiowa.edu" <rick-pau...@uiowa.edu>
wrote:
> On Jul 8, 11:39 am, Zenon <zenon_jask...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > He took in the shorts today for 12 minutes and 41 seconds.
>
> news reports differ.  Some say 3 minutes down. Maybe he switched bikes
> with a team mate.

Either way, looks like Kloden is now RatShack team leader.


== 3 of 10 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 10:28 am
From: "Barry"


>> He took in the shorts today for 12 minutes and 41 seconds.
>
> news reports differ. Some say 3 minutes down. Maybe he switched bikes
> with a team mate.

LeTour.com shows Horner finishing dead last, 12:41 back, in a group of six
with no RadioShack teammates.


== 4 of 10 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 10:19 am
From: RicodJour


On Jul 8, 1:12 pm, "rick-pau...@uiowa.edu" <rick-pau...@uiowa.edu>
wrote:
>
> Either way, looks like Kloden is now RatShack team leader.

That was fairly evident to almost everybody right along. Klodi's been
comfortably nestled in the front of the pack in every stage. The key
to the first week of the Tour is staying out of trouble and not losing
time. The rest of the Radioshack crew didn't take that message to
heart.

R


== 5 of 10 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 11:21 am
From: RicodJour


On Jul 8, 1:19 pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jul 8, 1:12 pm, "rick-pau...@uiowa.edu" <rick-pau...@uiowa.edu>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Either way, looks like Kloden is now RatShack team leader.
>
> That was fairly evident to almost everybody right along.  Klodi's been
> comfortably nestled in the front of the pack in every stage.  The key
> to the first week of the Tour is staying out of trouble and not losing
> time.  The rest of the Radioshack crew didn't take that message to
> heart.

Kind of strange to watch Johan's pre-stage talk after the events of
today's stage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4Cp5P5Oy-k

R


== 6 of 10 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 11:33 am
From: "rick-paulos@uiowa.edu"


http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/photos/video-no-luck-for-radioshack-in-tour-de-france/174536

"Chris Horner takes the lead from his RadioShack team leader Levi
Leipheimer in the final kilometres"

How do you lose 9 minutes in a few k?

if he had switched bikes, the chip timing would have recorded the
bike, not the rider. Pending review, I would not be surprized to see
his time changed by tomorrow.

== 7 of 10 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 11:39 am
From: RicodJour


On Jul 8, 1:28 pm, "Barry" <Ba...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
> LeTour.com shows Horner finishing dead last, 12:41 back, in a group of six
> with no RadioShack teammates.

I didn't see the crash, but from what Johan is saying it's pretty bad
for Horner.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/08072011/2/cycling-kloeden-hope-unlucky-radioshack-team.html

Horner lost consciousness and didn't know where he was - and was still
asking where he was well after the fact. Oh boy.

R


== 8 of 10 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 11:50 am
From: Anton Berlin


I thought Horner was going to challenge Contrador for the win.....
what happened to that fantasy?


== 9 of 10 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 11:58 am
From: RicodJour


On Jul 8, 2:33 pm, "rick-pau...@uiowa.edu" <rick-pau...@uiowa.edu>
wrote:
>
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/photos/video-no-luck-for-radioshack-i...
>
> "Chris Horner takes the lead from his RadioShack team leader Levi
> Leipheimer in the final kilometres"
>
> How do you lose 9 minutes in a few k?
>
> if he had switched bikes, the chip timing would have recorded the
> bike, not the rider.  Pending review, I would not be surprized to see
> his time changed by tomorrow.

Predictions made after facts to the contrary are made public come
across as a little weird. There will be no change in Horner's time,
and the only question is whether he will continue.

Horner was knocked out. Did you see the picture of him crossing the
line? His face was messed up, not horribly, (and not as bad as Zac in
the Harrisonburg Tour de Burg this year -
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4R_Mxyw2SMU/TDhq-wwRAGI/AAAAAAAADh0/bqish3FSs-A/s1600/riderdown.JPG
), but it looked like he got run over more than face planted.

R


== 10 of 10 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 1:05 pm
From: RicodJour


On Jul 8, 2:50 pm, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I thought Horner was going to challenge Contrador for the win.....
> what happened to that fantasy?

I guess the same thing that happened to your fantasy that moving
overseas would make you a more likeable and/or happy fellow. It
died. :)~

BTW, Aunt-on, I only hoped Horner would push AC in the mountains and
make him feel some pain. Now, I just hope Horner is alright.

My new fantasy is to have Levi, Horner and Popo recuperate enough for
the high mountains, and, since this is my fantasy, become super-
domestiques and make AC blow up. As far as who wins the Tour, I'd
like to see somebody 'new'.

R

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TOPIC: Serious question about a 'private' cycling club - closed routes
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/ce27755f58e44ec5?hl=en
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== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 10:19 am
From: "rick-paulos@uiowa.edu"


Here in Iowa, under a relatively new state law, land that is used for
athletic events or facilities is exempt from injury liability, IF the
owner doesn't charge a fee for the use. Once the owner starts
charging, the property owner is liable. This is the law that allows
cites to build skate & bmx parks without fear of getting wiped out by
the many & expected injuries. It allows private & public land to be
used for bike racing without insurance.

i'd say if you are wealthy enough to buy enough land for a personal
bike path, move to on of many islands around the world where autos are
barred.


On Jul 8, 11:14 am, kolldata <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 7, 1:57 pm, Choppy Warburton <choppywarbur...@yahoo.com> wrote:> A wealthy friend of mine that is nervous about cycling in traffic
> > thinks that he wants to buy some land and pave cycling paths and
> > charge a membership for.


== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 10:47 am
From: Frank Krygowski


On Jul 7, 11:10 pm, --D-y <dustoyev...@mac.com> wrote:
> On Jul 7, 8:05 pm, Frank Krygowski <frkry...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 7, 6:59 pm, --D-y <dustoyev...@mac.com> wrote:
>
>
> > > One developer managed to get a "bicycle track" built at his housing
> > > development:http://www.veloway.com/
>
> > Wow.  3.1 miles on which to ride around and around and around...
> > <yawn>
>
> > But I guess that works for some people.  When visiting a friend in
> > another town, I looked out the window and saw a woman in full roadie
> > kit riding by on the drops.  Four minutes later, she came by again.
> > And four minutes later, again.  And again.  And again...
>
> > Personally, I'd never pay a dime to ride such a facility.  I suppose
> > there might be some who would, but I doubt very much it could be made
> > to pay for itself, or even come close.
>
> > I expect the proprietor would advertise by saying "Bicycling on the
> > roads is dangerous!!!  Ride here instead, where it's safe!"  If so, I
> > hope he goes bankrupt before he pays for an ad.
>
> > I'd suggest that he save his money, and invest $50 or so in taking a
> > course on bicycling.  It's not that hard.  And it's not that
> > dangerous.
>
> > - Frank Krygowski
>
> Where did you see anything about charging admission at the Veloway,
> Frank?

Sorry to confuse you again, D-y. What I saw was the original poster
talking about a membership fee. Did you miss that?

> Just to fill out another detail or two.
> Point being, the Veloway does have ridership, it is excluded from
> motor traffic, and it was paid for to some large extent or another by
> COA even when it wasn't inside Austin proper.

I understand. The OP was asking about charging fees. Would that work
on your Veloway? Would those that now use it for fee do so if they
had to pay? As I said, I would not.

> Do you get that I am not any kind of fan of the Veloway yet?

:-) Does that mean that some day you may become one?

- Frank Krygowski


== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 11:06 am
From: Frank Krygowski


On Jul 8, 12:02 am, --D-y <dustoyev...@mac.com> wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>
> > > But I guess that works for some people.  When visiting a friend in
> > > another town, I looked out the window and saw a woman in full roadie
> > > kit riding by on the drops.  Four minutes later, she came by again.
> > > And four minutes later, again.  And again.  And again...
>
> How many laps did you keep track of, Frank?

I didn't even count. If I knew a report were required, I'd certainly
have paid more attention!

> Was she timing, too?

Impossible to tell.

> More important, do you know anything about this person, really?

I know that she dressed up to ride her bike around and around a large
suburban block. It's something I would not do, but as I said,
obviously she did; and she might be a potential customer for something
as boring as your Veloway or the OP's similar concept.

> I mean,
> maybe there's a job (that paid for the "full roadie kit") and a
> family, and time on the day for some laps...

Gosh, D-y, maybe you're right! Maybe she did have a job! Wow! ;-)

> What's wrong with roadie kit, in the first place, Frank? Or riding on
> the drops, for that matter?

Wait a minute - where did I say there was something wrong with those
things? Cite, please.

> > > Personally, I'd never pay a dime to ride such a facility.  I suppose
> > > there might be some who would, but I doubt very much it could be made
> > > to pay for itself, or even come close.
>
> MOS, Frank-- the Veloway is free to ride on, if you'd do more than
> glance and return to spew.

The facility the OP described would not be free (speaking of
spewing!) Review the thread, please, this time while sober.

> > > I'd suggest that he save his money, and invest $50 or so in taking a
> > > course on bicycling.  It's not that hard.  And it's not that
> > > dangerous.
>
> Maybe he already did "take a course on bicycling".

:-) Wanna bet? The odds are _way_ on my side.

> Maybe he's been
> deliberately knocked down by a motorist. Or been hassled by punks
> because he had lycra britches on. I know someone who saved himself
> from a "two-up", unprovoked beating by pulling a weapon (knife) on a
> couple of gangbanger punks, even here in Austin. Ever have someone
> throw a nearly full can of beer at you, Frank? I have.

Wow! Danger! Danger!

D-y, I've had two beverage cans thrown near me. They were so far away
it's hard to tell if "at me" was the intent. That's in about 40 years
of adult riding, plus lots of pre-adult riding.

For decades I've ridden through neighborhoods that scare timid white
folks. I continue to do so. I've never had a problem.

Perhaps you should lay off the sauce when reading this discussion
group. It might make you less likely to fly into rants and fear
mongering, and improve your reading ability and logic.

Now have a good day, OK?

- Frank Krygowski


== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 11:14 am
From: Frank Krygowski


On Jul 8, 1:12 am, James <james.e.stew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > But I guess that works for some people.  When visiting a friend in
> > another town, I looked out the window and saw a woman in full roadie
> > kit riding by on the drops.  Four minutes later, she came by again.
> > And four minutes later, again.  And again.  And again...
>
> Is that a rare sight for you where you live?  A woman in full roadie
> kit?  Maybe she was training?  Some people enjoy riding and racing to
> improve their fitness and ability, not for the scenery.

It's not that rare to see a woman in a cycling outfit on a road bike.
But at least around here, it's rare to see such a person riding around
and around a suburban block. Is that common in your area?

I should perhaps mention that this town has lots of pleasant country
roads around it. It's about 50 miles from my home, and it's one of
the places I really enjoy riding to. There's also a long bike trail
(for those who like them) about a mile away from where she was
riding. Personally, I'd prefer even that.

But as I said, I guess the around and around thing works for some
people.

- Frank Krygowski


== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 11:18 am
From: Frank Krygowski


On Jul 8, 10:58 am, atriage <atri...@notvalid.net> wrote:
> On 08/07/2011 15:54, Fred Flintstein wrote:
>
> > In a philosophical sense it bothers me to make cycling
> > dependent on driving someplace to do it.
>
> Couldn't agree more. On the odd occasion I do it I always start the ride of with
> a vague sense of irritation.

Same here. Very few of my bike rides start with a car ride.

OTOH, I can see how one could eventually get bored with the roads near
one's home, and want to explore further afield.

If (say) we had any kind of train service in this town, I could enjoy
a train ride out, then a bike ride to return. That could be fun.

- Frank Krygowski


== 6 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 12:56 pm
From: landotter


On Jul 7, 9:04 pm, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> -snip snip-
>
> Dan O wrote:
> > (Maybe they'll have Soma in the vending machines at the bike park,
> > too.)
>
> Quite a large facility if they cover all the Soma sizes and
> models
>
> http://somafab.com/smoothie.html
>
> "Please deposit 1,680 quarters"

Good one! Have you guys built up any of the Sagas? Is the fit and
finish in the ballpark of the comparably priced Surlys?


== 7 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 12:52 pm
From: landotter


On Jul 7, 3:57 pm, Choppy Warburton <choppywarbur...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> A wealthy friend of mine that is nervous about cycling in traffic
> thinks that he wants to buy some land and pave cycling paths and
> charge a membership for.
>
> I think it's impractical because cyclists like to assert themselves
> into traffic despite the risks and most enjoy the change and variety
> of using existing roads as well as the scenery they provide.
>
> Would this be a practical idea - would cyclists use it on a regular
> basis - and lastly what features would cyclists want included?
>
> Ideas already include a clubhouse, lockers and showers and storage
> area for bikes.
>
> TIA for any opinion / advice you can give

A paved criterium course would be fun, but the best option isn't
pavement, it's a dirt pump track. Fairly cheap to build, and super
fun.

http://www.leelikesbikes.com/build-your-own-pump-track.html


== 8 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 1:13 pm
From: "(PeteCresswell)"


Per Frank Krygowski:
>OTOH, I can see how one could eventually get bored with the roads near
>one's home, and want to explore further afield.
>
>If (say) we had any kind of train service in this town, I could enjoy
>a train ride out, then a bike ride to return. That could be fun.

That's one advantage of living in the Philadelphia 'burbs.

The train service allows bicycles during off hours.

Typically I'll take the train in to center city, do what I have
to do (doctor's, dentist, whatever), and then meander the 30-odd
miles home.
--
PeteCresswell


== 9 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 1:42 pm
From: "mike.a.schwab@gmail.com"


On Jul 7, 3:57 pm, Choppy Warburton <choppywarbur...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> A wealthy friend of mine that is nervous about cycling in traffic
> thinks that he wants to buy some land and pave cycling paths and
> charge a membership for.
>
> I think it's impractical because cyclists like to assert themselves
> into traffic despite the risks and most enjoy the change and variety
> of using existing roads as well as the scenery they provide.
>
> Would this be a practical idea - would cyclists use it on a regular
> basis - and lastly what features would cyclists want included?
>
> Ideas already include a clubhouse, lockers and showers and storage
> area for bikes.
>
> TIA for any opinion / advice you can give

Campground & MTB trails. Perhaps extend the range by installing
gravel paths next to tree lines / property lines? I. E. widen the gap
between the plowed field and obstructions and build a gravel trail
there. Use the 3/8 with fines line mule drawn canal paths versus the
3/4 inch for cars.

http://www.rockyhillranchtexas.com/

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 11:21 am
From: Bob Martin

Stage 7 : Jul 8, Le Mans - Chateauroux, 215 km

1 Mark Cavendish (GBr) HTC-Highroad 5.38.53
2 Alessandro Petacchi (Ita) Lampre - ISD
3 Andre Greipel (Ger) Omega Pharma-Lotto
4 Romain Feillu (Fra) Vacansoleil-DCM Pro Cycling Team
5 William Bonnet (Fra) FDJ
6 Denis Galimzyanov (Rus) Katusha Team
7 Thor Hushovd (Nor) Team Garmin-Cervelo
8 Sebastien Turgot (Fra) Team Europcar
9 Jose Joaquin Rojas Gil (Spa) Movistar Team
10 Sebastien Hinault (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale


Changes in GC, stage 7 compared to stage 6 :

Biggest gainers by position :
+23 Sebastien Turgot
+23 Rui Alberto Faria da Costa
+23 Maciej Paterski
+22 Sebastian Lang
+22 Ruben Perez Moreno
+22 Arthur Vichot
+21 William Bonnet
+21 Mickael Delage
+21 Mark Cavendish
+21 Marco Marcato

Biggest losers by position :
-106 Christopher Horner
-87 Dmitriy Fofonov
-72 Andrey Zeits
-43 Gerald Ciolek
-33 Ramunas Navardauskas
-31 Edvald Boasson Hagen
-31 Geraint Thomas
-30 Yaroslav Popovych
-25 Cyril Gautier
-20 Egor Silin
-19 Levi Leipheimer

Biggest gainers by time :

Biggest losers by time :
-12:41 Andrey Zeits
-12:41 Christopher Horner
-12:41 Dmitriy Fofonov
-12:41 Gerald Ciolek
-12:41 Gert Steegmans
-12:41 Jesus Hernandez Blazquez
-6:38 Ramunas Navardauskas
-6:38 Sergio Miguel Moreira Paulinho
-6:38 Yaroslav Popovych
-4:14 Blel Kadri
-3:37 Wout Poels

Favourites by position :
+16 Samuel Sanchez Gonzalez
+13 Luis Leon Sanchez Gil
+10 Alberto Contador Velasco
+6 Jens Voigt
+5 Ivan Basso
+4 Robert Gesink
+4 Jurgen Van Den Broeck
+3 Andy Schleck
+1 David Arroyo Duran
-10 Roman Kreuziger
-19 Levi Leipheimer
-106 Christopher Horner

Favourites by time :
-1:53 Jens Voigt
-3:06 Roman Kreuziger
-3:06 Levi Leipheimer
-3:06 David Arroyo Duran
-12:41 Christopher Horner

Top 10 and favourites GC standings (previous stage in parens) :
1 Thor Hushovd 28:29:27 (unchanged)
2 Cadel Evans 0:01 (unchanged)
3 Frank Schleck 0:04 (unchanged)
4 David Millar 0:08 (unchanged)
5 Andreas Kloden 0:10 (unchanged)
6 Jakob Fuglsang 0:12 (was 9th at 0:12)
7 Andy Schleck 0:12 (was 10th at 0:12)
8 Tony Martin 0:13 (was 11th at 0:13)
9 Peter Velits 0:13 (was 12th at 0:13)
10 Robert Gesink 0:20 (was 14th at 0:20)
.....
13 Jurgen Van Den Broeck 0:39 (was 17th at 0:39)
.....
15 Ivan Basso 1:03 (was 20th at 1:03)
.....
24 Alberto Contador Velasco 1:42 (was 34th at 1:42)
.....
29 Luis Leon Sanchez Gil 2:15 (was 42nd at 2:15)
.....
32 Samuel Sanchez Gonzalez 2:36 (was 48th at 2:36)
.....
50 Levi Leipheimer 4:29 (was 31st at 1:23)
.....
57 Roman Kreuziger 5:35 (was 47th at 2:29)
.....
119 Christopher Horner 12:59 (was 13th at 0:18)
.....
130 Jens Voigt 14:23 (was 136th at 12:30)
.....
149 David Arroyo Duran 17:21 (was 150th at 14:15)

Top 10 on Points table with previous in parens:
1 Jose Joaquin Rojas Gil 167 (was 2nd with 143 points)
2 Philippe Gilbert 156 (was 1st with 144 points)
3 Mark Cavendish 150 (was 5th with 94 points)
4 Thor Hushovd 130 (was 3rd with 112 points)
5 Romain Feillu 99 (was 7th with 73 points)
6 Cadel Evans 98 (was 4th with 98 points)
7 Andre Greipel 78 (was 10th with 48 points)
8 Tyler Farrar 76 (was 6th with 76 points)
9 Sebastien Hinault 60 (was 9th with 48 points)
10 Denis Galimzyanov 55 (was 18th with 35 points)

Top 10 on Mountains table with previous in parens:
1 Johnny Hoogerland 4 (unchanged)
2 Anthony Roux 3 (unchanged)
3 Cadel Evans 2 (unchanged)
4 Philippe Gilbert 1 (unchanged)
5 Mickael Delage 1 (unchanged)
6 Lieuwe Westra 1 (was 7th with 1 points)
7 Anthony Delaplace 1 (was 6th with 1 points)
8 Alberto Contador Velasco 1 (unchanged)

Retirements to date : Stage
Bradley Wiggins (GBr) Sky Procycling 7 <<<
Remi Pauriol (Fra) FDJ 7 <<<
Tom Boonen (Bel) Quickstep Cycling Team 7 <<<
Ivan Murillo Velasco (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 6
Vasili Kiryienka (Blr) Movistar Team 6
Christophe Kern (Fra) Team Europcar 5
Janez Brajkovic (Slo) Team RadioShack 5
Jurgen Van De Walle (Bel) Omega Pharma-Lotto 4
Total retirements : 8


(This report can also be seen at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rvmartin2)

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TOPIC: Magilla Gorilla vs. Casey Anthony
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/45c7850f2067e7c1?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 11:28 am
From: Zenon


Magilla,

Is it true that you'll be heading a civil suit against Casey Anthony
for the emotional damage you've suffered resulting from following the
Casey Anthony case every single day for the last 3 years and that's
whey you haven't been here bitch slapping everyone in RBR-land?

Eat Shit And Die Bitch,
Zenon

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TOPIC: radioshack
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/44ef097735c048a2?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 1:11 pm
From: Ben Trovato


On Jul 8, 8:43 am, RicodJour <ricodj...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jul 8, 11:18 am, atriage <atri...@notvalid.net> wrote:
>
> > On 08/07/2011 16:07, atriage wrote:
>
> > > Still getting plenty of crash practise in I see.
>
> > Another one, looks like Wiggins is out, Horner's on the ground too.
>
> I didn't see the Horner crash, but he's five minutes back or
> something.
>
> RadioShack's gremlins are working overtime.
>
> R

Bad things always seem to happen to YouKnowWho's former teammates...


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[socialactionfoundationforequity:14042 Strong Protest

Buzz It
Strongly worded petition by NFHS to Law Commission, on the
reccomendation to make 498A IPC compoundable
Fighting Legal Terror | July 7, 2011 at 3:57 pm | Categories:
Law_Commission | URL: http://wp.me/pH9rA-1aQ

07th July 2011 / Bangalore
To,
Chairman, Shri Justice P V Reddi
Law Commission of India,
The Indian Law Institute Building
(Opp. to Supreme Court), Bhagwandas Road,
New Delhi - 110001
Subject: Strong protest by "National Family Harmony Society®" on the
recommendation of the Law Commission to make 498A IPC compoundable
About National Family Harmony Society®: "National Family Harmony
Society®" NFHS is a Non Governmental Organization (NGO) promoting the
cause of "family harmony" and "gender equality". It is registered
under "The Karnataka Societies Registration Act, 1960" and is based in
Bangalore. We have branches in more than 16 states and in abroad too.
We have approximately 16000 members all over India. To know more about
us please visit www.family-harmony.org / www.498a.org.in.
There have been media reports recently which have indicated the
intention of the Law Commission to make 498A IPC compoundable. This
will further accelerate the breaking of families and give further
encouragement to the greedy wives to file false cases.
A criminal case, and that too of the nature of an offence which deals
with cruelty must not be compounded at any cost. If husband and his
family members have done crime then they must be tried under the
criminal justice system. If 498A IPC is allowed to be compounded then
it will be mockery of the criminal justice system. In that case if any
dispute arises between husband and wife due to whatever reason, 498A
will be used to blackmail, threaten and for money extortion.
It is also surprising that before initiating discussion on such an
important topic, Law commission has not given any News Paper
advertisement as is done by Parliament Sub-Committees and our NGO came
to know about the Law Commission initiative only by media articles.
Through media article, we also came to know that Law Commission has
selectively invited suggestions from certain quarters. There are
hundreds of NGOs like ours, who are working from many years to bring
effective amendments to 498A IPC due to its heavy abuse and misuse. It
seems none of the group or NGO has been invited for oral pleadings as
is the common practice in law making/amendment process.
The heavy misuse and abuse of the 498A IPC is an open secret with
hundreds of question being raised in parliament and hundreds of
Judgment from Judiciary. We fail to understand that by making 498A IPC
compoundable, how the misuse and abuse of 498A IPC will be prevented.
Thousands of families who had been falsely implicated by using this
IPC section were hopeful and had great expectation that Law Commission
will make some concrete suggestion to the government to stop the
misuse of this Law. Thousands of husbands have committed suicide as
they were falsely implicated in this Law but it seems that Law
Commission is not able to see the agony, harassment and torture of
these families.
Left with no other option, our NGO did protest by the way of "black
flag" Dharna at Bangalore on 2nd of July which received wide media
coverage and hundreds of calls/enquiries from various quarters. All
the media coverage has been compiled at below location for your kind
persual.
http://498amisuse.wordpress.com/2011/07/04/nfhs-press-coverage-flash-dharna-against-law-commission-reccomendation-tp-make-498a-compoundable/
In response to the Law Commission's earlier questionnaire, NFHS had
sent following answer regarding question 8.
8) Do you think that the offence should be made compoundable
(with the permission of court)? Are there any particular reasons not
to make it compoundable?
Once a complaint is registered then the complainant should not have
the option to withdraw it. If the complainant is allowed to withdraw
the complaint then it amounts to blackmailing. Anyone with intention
to extract money from husband will file complaint in police station
and withdraw later when her demands are met. 498A must not be allowed
to be used as a blackmail tool. Hence we strongly oppose to make it
compoundable.

In view of the above discussion and reasons we strongly mark our
protest to make 498A IPC compoundable and we will use all democratic
means of protest so that efforts can be made to stop the heavy misuse
and abuse of the 498A IPC which has been termed as Legal Terror by the
Supreme Court.
With profound respects, Jai Hind !!!
P Suresh, President,
9880141531
National Family Harmony Society

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