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* Negative Racing - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/e0dd4aa5751873d8?hl=en
* Christopher Horner (USA) Team RadioShack - 10 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/d71f6fbe2a9c010a?hl=en
* Serious question about a 'private' cycling club - closed routes - 9 messages,
5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/ce27755f58e44ec5?hl=en
* XXX HOT PHOTOS & VIDEOS - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/52956f5b3926aeb3?hl=en
* Tour de France, stage 7 summary - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/e26f749fc23c1565?hl=en
* Magilla Gorilla vs. Casey Anthony - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/45c7850f2067e7c1?hl=en
* radioshack - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/44ef097735c048a2?hl=en
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TOPIC: Negative Racing
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/e0dd4aa5751873d8?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 10:06 am
From: John Dacey
Having a look through the results after stage 8, I find that the
Movistar rider in last place in the points competition has accrued a
score of minus five.
How is one awarded negative points?
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John Dacey
Business Cycles, Miami, Florida
Our 28th year
http://businesscycles.com
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 10:09 am
From: atriage
On 08/07/2011 18:06, John Dacey wrote:
> Having a look through the results after stage 8, I find that the
> Movistar rider in last place in the points competition has accrued a
> score of minus five.
>
> How is one awarded negative points?
>
He was penalised for being from Costa Rica.
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TOPIC: Christopher Horner (USA) Team RadioShack
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/d71f6fbe2a9c010a?hl=en
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== 1 of 10 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 10:11 am
From: "rick-paulos@uiowa.edu"
On Jul 8, 11:39 am, Zenon <zenon_jask...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> He took in the shorts today for 12 minutes and 41 seconds.
news reports differ. Some say 3 minutes down. Maybe he switched bikes
with a team mate.
== 2 of 10 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 10:12 am
From: "rick-paulos@uiowa.edu"
On Jul 8, 12:11 pm, "rick-pau...@uiowa.edu" <rick-pau...@uiowa.edu>
wrote:
> On Jul 8, 11:39 am, Zenon <zenon_jask...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > He took in the shorts today for 12 minutes and 41 seconds.
>
> news reports differ. Some say 3 minutes down. Maybe he switched bikes
> with a team mate.
Either way, looks like Kloden is now RatShack team leader.
== 3 of 10 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 10:28 am
From: "Barry"
>> He took in the shorts today for 12 minutes and 41 seconds.
>
> news reports differ. Some say 3 minutes down. Maybe he switched bikes
> with a team mate.
LeTour.com shows Horner finishing dead last, 12:41 back, in a group of six
with no RadioShack teammates.
== 4 of 10 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 10:19 am
From: RicodJour
On Jul 8, 1:12 pm, "rick-pau...@uiowa.edu" <rick-pau...@uiowa.edu>
wrote:
>
> Either way, looks like Kloden is now RatShack team leader.
That was fairly evident to almost everybody right along. Klodi's been
comfortably nestled in the front of the pack in every stage. The key
to the first week of the Tour is staying out of trouble and not losing
time. The rest of the Radioshack crew didn't take that message to
heart.
R
== 5 of 10 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 11:21 am
From: RicodJour
On Jul 8, 1:19 pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jul 8, 1:12 pm, "rick-pau...@uiowa.edu" <rick-pau...@uiowa.edu>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Either way, looks like Kloden is now RatShack team leader.
>
> That was fairly evident to almost everybody right along. Klodi's been
> comfortably nestled in the front of the pack in every stage. The key
> to the first week of the Tour is staying out of trouble and not losing
> time. The rest of the Radioshack crew didn't take that message to
> heart.
Kind of strange to watch Johan's pre-stage talk after the events of
today's stage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4Cp5P5Oy-k
R
== 6 of 10 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 11:33 am
From: "rick-paulos@uiowa.edu"
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/photos/video-no-luck-for-radioshack-in-tour-de-france/174536
"Chris Horner takes the lead from his RadioShack team leader Levi
Leipheimer in the final kilometres"
How do you lose 9 minutes in a few k?
if he had switched bikes, the chip timing would have recorded the
bike, not the rider. Pending review, I would not be surprized to see
his time changed by tomorrow.
== 7 of 10 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 11:39 am
From: RicodJour
On Jul 8, 1:28 pm, "Barry" <Ba...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
> LeTour.com shows Horner finishing dead last, 12:41 back, in a group of six
> with no RadioShack teammates.
I didn't see the crash, but from what Johan is saying it's pretty bad
for Horner.
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/08072011/2/cycling-kloeden-hope-unlucky-radioshack-team.html
Horner lost consciousness and didn't know where he was - and was still
asking where he was well after the fact. Oh boy.
R
== 8 of 10 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 11:50 am
From: Anton Berlin
I thought Horner was going to challenge Contrador for the win.....
what happened to that fantasy?
== 9 of 10 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 11:58 am
From: RicodJour
On Jul 8, 2:33 pm, "rick-pau...@uiowa.edu" <rick-pau...@uiowa.edu>
wrote:
>
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/photos/video-no-luck-for-radioshack-i...
>
> "Chris Horner takes the lead from his RadioShack team leader Levi
> Leipheimer in the final kilometres"
>
> How do you lose 9 minutes in a few k?
>
> if he had switched bikes, the chip timing would have recorded the
> bike, not the rider. Pending review, I would not be surprized to see
> his time changed by tomorrow.
Predictions made after facts to the contrary are made public come
across as a little weird. There will be no change in Horner's time,
and the only question is whether he will continue.
Horner was knocked out. Did you see the picture of him crossing the
line? His face was messed up, not horribly, (and not as bad as Zac in
the Harrisonburg Tour de Burg this year -
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4R_Mxyw2SMU/TDhq-wwRAGI/AAAAAAAADh0/bqish3FSs-A/s1600/riderdown.JPG
), but it looked like he got run over more than face planted.
R
== 10 of 10 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 1:05 pm
From: RicodJour
On Jul 8, 2:50 pm, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I thought Horner was going to challenge Contrador for the win.....
> what happened to that fantasy?
I guess the same thing that happened to your fantasy that moving
overseas would make you a more likeable and/or happy fellow. It
died. :)~
BTW, Aunt-on, I only hoped Horner would push AC in the mountains and
make him feel some pain. Now, I just hope Horner is alright.
My new fantasy is to have Levi, Horner and Popo recuperate enough for
the high mountains, and, since this is my fantasy, become super-
domestiques and make AC blow up. As far as who wins the Tour, I'd
like to see somebody 'new'.
R
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TOPIC: Serious question about a 'private' cycling club - closed routes
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/ce27755f58e44ec5?hl=en
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== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 10:19 am
From: "rick-paulos@uiowa.edu"
Here in Iowa, under a relatively new state law, land that is used for
athletic events or facilities is exempt from injury liability, IF the
owner doesn't charge a fee for the use. Once the owner starts
charging, the property owner is liable. This is the law that allows
cites to build skate & bmx parks without fear of getting wiped out by
the many & expected injuries. It allows private & public land to be
used for bike racing without insurance.
i'd say if you are wealthy enough to buy enough land for a personal
bike path, move to on of many islands around the world where autos are
barred.
On Jul 8, 11:14 am, kolldata <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 7, 1:57 pm, Choppy Warburton <choppywarbur...@yahoo.com> wrote:> A wealthy friend of mine that is nervous about cycling in traffic
> > thinks that he wants to buy some land and pave cycling paths and
> > charge a membership for.
== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 10:47 am
From: Frank Krygowski
On Jul 7, 11:10 pm, --D-y <dustoyev...@mac.com> wrote:
> On Jul 7, 8:05 pm, Frank Krygowski <frkry...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 7, 6:59 pm, --D-y <dustoyev...@mac.com> wrote:
>
>
> > > One developer managed to get a "bicycle track" built at his housing
> > > development:http://www.veloway.com/
>
> > Wow. 3.1 miles on which to ride around and around and around...
> > <yawn>
>
> > But I guess that works for some people. When visiting a friend in
> > another town, I looked out the window and saw a woman in full roadie
> > kit riding by on the drops. Four minutes later, she came by again.
> > And four minutes later, again. And again. And again...
>
> > Personally, I'd never pay a dime to ride such a facility. I suppose
> > there might be some who would, but I doubt very much it could be made
> > to pay for itself, or even come close.
>
> > I expect the proprietor would advertise by saying "Bicycling on the
> > roads is dangerous!!! Ride here instead, where it's safe!" If so, I
> > hope he goes bankrupt before he pays for an ad.
>
> > I'd suggest that he save his money, and invest $50 or so in taking a
> > course on bicycling. It's not that hard. And it's not that
> > dangerous.
>
> > - Frank Krygowski
>
> Where did you see anything about charging admission at the Veloway,
> Frank?
Sorry to confuse you again, D-y. What I saw was the original poster
talking about a membership fee. Did you miss that?
> Just to fill out another detail or two.
> Point being, the Veloway does have ridership, it is excluded from
> motor traffic, and it was paid for to some large extent or another by
> COA even when it wasn't inside Austin proper.
I understand. The OP was asking about charging fees. Would that work
on your Veloway? Would those that now use it for fee do so if they
had to pay? As I said, I would not.
> Do you get that I am not any kind of fan of the Veloway yet?
:-) Does that mean that some day you may become one?
- Frank Krygowski
== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 11:06 am
From: Frank Krygowski
On Jul 8, 12:02 am, --D-y <dustoyev...@mac.com> wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>
> > > But I guess that works for some people. When visiting a friend in
> > > another town, I looked out the window and saw a woman in full roadie
> > > kit riding by on the drops. Four minutes later, she came by again.
> > > And four minutes later, again. And again. And again...
>
> How many laps did you keep track of, Frank?
I didn't even count. If I knew a report were required, I'd certainly
have paid more attention!
> Was she timing, too?
Impossible to tell.
> More important, do you know anything about this person, really?
I know that she dressed up to ride her bike around and around a large
suburban block. It's something I would not do, but as I said,
obviously she did; and she might be a potential customer for something
as boring as your Veloway or the OP's similar concept.
> I mean,
> maybe there's a job (that paid for the "full roadie kit") and a
> family, and time on the day for some laps...
Gosh, D-y, maybe you're right! Maybe she did have a job! Wow! ;-)
> What's wrong with roadie kit, in the first place, Frank? Or riding on
> the drops, for that matter?
Wait a minute - where did I say there was something wrong with those
things? Cite, please.
> > > Personally, I'd never pay a dime to ride such a facility. I suppose
> > > there might be some who would, but I doubt very much it could be made
> > > to pay for itself, or even come close.
>
> MOS, Frank-- the Veloway is free to ride on, if you'd do more than
> glance and return to spew.
The facility the OP described would not be free (speaking of
spewing!) Review the thread, please, this time while sober.
> > > I'd suggest that he save his money, and invest $50 or so in taking a
> > > course on bicycling. It's not that hard. And it's not that
> > > dangerous.
>
> Maybe he already did "take a course on bicycling".
:-) Wanna bet? The odds are _way_ on my side.
> Maybe he's been
> deliberately knocked down by a motorist. Or been hassled by punks
> because he had lycra britches on. I know someone who saved himself
> from a "two-up", unprovoked beating by pulling a weapon (knife) on a
> couple of gangbanger punks, even here in Austin. Ever have someone
> throw a nearly full can of beer at you, Frank? I have.
Wow! Danger! Danger!
D-y, I've had two beverage cans thrown near me. They were so far away
it's hard to tell if "at me" was the intent. That's in about 40 years
of adult riding, plus lots of pre-adult riding.
For decades I've ridden through neighborhoods that scare timid white
folks. I continue to do so. I've never had a problem.
Perhaps you should lay off the sauce when reading this discussion
group. It might make you less likely to fly into rants and fear
mongering, and improve your reading ability and logic.
Now have a good day, OK?
- Frank Krygowski
== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 11:14 am
From: Frank Krygowski
On Jul 8, 1:12 am, James <james.e.stew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > But I guess that works for some people. When visiting a friend in
> > another town, I looked out the window and saw a woman in full roadie
> > kit riding by on the drops. Four minutes later, she came by again.
> > And four minutes later, again. And again. And again...
>
> Is that a rare sight for you where you live? A woman in full roadie
> kit? Maybe she was training? Some people enjoy riding and racing to
> improve their fitness and ability, not for the scenery.
It's not that rare to see a woman in a cycling outfit on a road bike.
But at least around here, it's rare to see such a person riding around
and around a suburban block. Is that common in your area?
I should perhaps mention that this town has lots of pleasant country
roads around it. It's about 50 miles from my home, and it's one of
the places I really enjoy riding to. There's also a long bike trail
(for those who like them) about a mile away from where she was
riding. Personally, I'd prefer even that.
But as I said, I guess the around and around thing works for some
people.
- Frank Krygowski
== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 11:18 am
From: Frank Krygowski
On Jul 8, 10:58 am, atriage <atri...@notvalid.net> wrote:
> On 08/07/2011 15:54, Fred Flintstein wrote:
>
> > In a philosophical sense it bothers me to make cycling
> > dependent on driving someplace to do it.
>
> Couldn't agree more. On the odd occasion I do it I always start the ride of with
> a vague sense of irritation.
Same here. Very few of my bike rides start with a car ride.
OTOH, I can see how one could eventually get bored with the roads near
one's home, and want to explore further afield.
If (say) we had any kind of train service in this town, I could enjoy
a train ride out, then a bike ride to return. That could be fun.
- Frank Krygowski
== 6 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 12:56 pm
From: landotter
On Jul 7, 9:04 pm, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> -snip snip-
>
> Dan O wrote:
> > (Maybe they'll have Soma in the vending machines at the bike park,
> > too.)
>
> Quite a large facility if they cover all the Soma sizes and
> models
>
> http://somafab.com/smoothie.html
>
> "Please deposit 1,680 quarters"
Good one! Have you guys built up any of the Sagas? Is the fit and
finish in the ballpark of the comparably priced Surlys?
== 7 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 12:52 pm
From: landotter
On Jul 7, 3:57 pm, Choppy Warburton <choppywarbur...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> A wealthy friend of mine that is nervous about cycling in traffic
> thinks that he wants to buy some land and pave cycling paths and
> charge a membership for.
>
> I think it's impractical because cyclists like to assert themselves
> into traffic despite the risks and most enjoy the change and variety
> of using existing roads as well as the scenery they provide.
>
> Would this be a practical idea - would cyclists use it on a regular
> basis - and lastly what features would cyclists want included?
>
> Ideas already include a clubhouse, lockers and showers and storage
> area for bikes.
>
> TIA for any opinion / advice you can give
A paved criterium course would be fun, but the best option isn't
pavement, it's a dirt pump track. Fairly cheap to build, and super
fun.
http://www.leelikesbikes.com/build-your-own-pump-track.html
== 8 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 1:13 pm
From: "(PeteCresswell)"
Per Frank Krygowski:
>OTOH, I can see how one could eventually get bored with the roads near
>one's home, and want to explore further afield.
>
>If (say) we had any kind of train service in this town, I could enjoy
>a train ride out, then a bike ride to return. That could be fun.
That's one advantage of living in the Philadelphia 'burbs.
The train service allows bicycles during off hours.
Typically I'll take the train in to center city, do what I have
to do (doctor's, dentist, whatever), and then meander the 30-odd
miles home.
--
PeteCresswell
== 9 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 1:42 pm
From: "mike.a.schwab@gmail.com"
On Jul 7, 3:57 pm, Choppy Warburton <choppywarbur...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> A wealthy friend of mine that is nervous about cycling in traffic
> thinks that he wants to buy some land and pave cycling paths and
> charge a membership for.
>
> I think it's impractical because cyclists like to assert themselves
> into traffic despite the risks and most enjoy the change and variety
> of using existing roads as well as the scenery they provide.
>
> Would this be a practical idea - would cyclists use it on a regular
> basis - and lastly what features would cyclists want included?
>
> Ideas already include a clubhouse, lockers and showers and storage
> area for bikes.
>
> TIA for any opinion / advice you can give
Campground & MTB trails. Perhaps extend the range by installing
gravel paths next to tree lines / property lines? I. E. widen the gap
between the plowed field and obstructions and build a gravel trail
there. Use the 3/8 with fines line mule drawn canal paths versus the
3/4 inch for cars.
http://www.rockyhillranchtexas.com/
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TOPIC: Tour de France, stage 7 summary
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 11:21 am
From: Bob Martin
Stage 7 : Jul 8, Le Mans - Chateauroux, 215 km
1 Mark Cavendish (GBr) HTC-Highroad 5.38.53
2 Alessandro Petacchi (Ita) Lampre - ISD
3 Andre Greipel (Ger) Omega Pharma-Lotto
4 Romain Feillu (Fra) Vacansoleil-DCM Pro Cycling Team
5 William Bonnet (Fra) FDJ
6 Denis Galimzyanov (Rus) Katusha Team
7 Thor Hushovd (Nor) Team Garmin-Cervelo
8 Sebastien Turgot (Fra) Team Europcar
9 Jose Joaquin Rojas Gil (Spa) Movistar Team
10 Sebastien Hinault (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale
Changes in GC, stage 7 compared to stage 6 :
Biggest gainers by position :
+23 Sebastien Turgot
+23 Rui Alberto Faria da Costa
+23 Maciej Paterski
+22 Sebastian Lang
+22 Ruben Perez Moreno
+22 Arthur Vichot
+21 William Bonnet
+21 Mickael Delage
+21 Mark Cavendish
+21 Marco Marcato
Biggest losers by position :
-106 Christopher Horner
-87 Dmitriy Fofonov
-72 Andrey Zeits
-43 Gerald Ciolek
-33 Ramunas Navardauskas
-31 Edvald Boasson Hagen
-31 Geraint Thomas
-30 Yaroslav Popovych
-25 Cyril Gautier
-20 Egor Silin
-19 Levi Leipheimer
Biggest gainers by time :
Biggest losers by time :
-12:41 Andrey Zeits
-12:41 Christopher Horner
-12:41 Dmitriy Fofonov
-12:41 Gerald Ciolek
-12:41 Gert Steegmans
-12:41 Jesus Hernandez Blazquez
-6:38 Ramunas Navardauskas
-6:38 Sergio Miguel Moreira Paulinho
-6:38 Yaroslav Popovych
-4:14 Blel Kadri
-3:37 Wout Poels
Favourites by position :
+16 Samuel Sanchez Gonzalez
+13 Luis Leon Sanchez Gil
+10 Alberto Contador Velasco
+6 Jens Voigt
+5 Ivan Basso
+4 Robert Gesink
+4 Jurgen Van Den Broeck
+3 Andy Schleck
+1 David Arroyo Duran
-10 Roman Kreuziger
-19 Levi Leipheimer
-106 Christopher Horner
Favourites by time :
-1:53 Jens Voigt
-3:06 Roman Kreuziger
-3:06 Levi Leipheimer
-3:06 David Arroyo Duran
-12:41 Christopher Horner
Top 10 and favourites GC standings (previous stage in parens) :
1 Thor Hushovd 28:29:27 (unchanged)
2 Cadel Evans 0:01 (unchanged)
3 Frank Schleck 0:04 (unchanged)
4 David Millar 0:08 (unchanged)
5 Andreas Kloden 0:10 (unchanged)
6 Jakob Fuglsang 0:12 (was 9th at 0:12)
7 Andy Schleck 0:12 (was 10th at 0:12)
8 Tony Martin 0:13 (was 11th at 0:13)
9 Peter Velits 0:13 (was 12th at 0:13)
10 Robert Gesink 0:20 (was 14th at 0:20)
.....
13 Jurgen Van Den Broeck 0:39 (was 17th at 0:39)
.....
15 Ivan Basso 1:03 (was 20th at 1:03)
.....
24 Alberto Contador Velasco 1:42 (was 34th at 1:42)
.....
29 Luis Leon Sanchez Gil 2:15 (was 42nd at 2:15)
.....
32 Samuel Sanchez Gonzalez 2:36 (was 48th at 2:36)
.....
50 Levi Leipheimer 4:29 (was 31st at 1:23)
.....
57 Roman Kreuziger 5:35 (was 47th at 2:29)
.....
119 Christopher Horner 12:59 (was 13th at 0:18)
.....
130 Jens Voigt 14:23 (was 136th at 12:30)
.....
149 David Arroyo Duran 17:21 (was 150th at 14:15)
Top 10 on Points table with previous in parens:
1 Jose Joaquin Rojas Gil 167 (was 2nd with 143 points)
2 Philippe Gilbert 156 (was 1st with 144 points)
3 Mark Cavendish 150 (was 5th with 94 points)
4 Thor Hushovd 130 (was 3rd with 112 points)
5 Romain Feillu 99 (was 7th with 73 points)
6 Cadel Evans 98 (was 4th with 98 points)
7 Andre Greipel 78 (was 10th with 48 points)
8 Tyler Farrar 76 (was 6th with 76 points)
9 Sebastien Hinault 60 (was 9th with 48 points)
10 Denis Galimzyanov 55 (was 18th with 35 points)
Top 10 on Mountains table with previous in parens:
1 Johnny Hoogerland 4 (unchanged)
2 Anthony Roux 3 (unchanged)
3 Cadel Evans 2 (unchanged)
4 Philippe Gilbert 1 (unchanged)
5 Mickael Delage 1 (unchanged)
6 Lieuwe Westra 1 (was 7th with 1 points)
7 Anthony Delaplace 1 (was 6th with 1 points)
8 Alberto Contador Velasco 1 (unchanged)
Retirements to date : Stage
Bradley Wiggins (GBr) Sky Procycling 7 <<<
Remi Pauriol (Fra) FDJ 7 <<<
Tom Boonen (Bel) Quickstep Cycling Team 7 <<<
Ivan Murillo Velasco (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 6
Vasili Kiryienka (Blr) Movistar Team 6
Christophe Kern (Fra) Team Europcar 5
Janez Brajkovic (Slo) Team RadioShack 5
Jurgen Van De Walle (Bel) Omega Pharma-Lotto 4
Total retirements : 8
(This report can also be seen at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rvmartin2)
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 11:28 am
From: Zenon
Magilla,
Is it true that you'll be heading a civil suit against Casey Anthony
for the emotional damage you've suffered resulting from following the
Casey Anthony case every single day for the last 3 years and that's
whey you haven't been here bitch slapping everyone in RBR-land?
Eat Shit And Die Bitch,
Zenon
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TOPIC: radioshack
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/44ef097735c048a2?hl=en
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Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 1:11 pm
From: Ben Trovato
On Jul 8, 8:43 am, RicodJour <ricodj...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jul 8, 11:18 am, atriage <atri...@notvalid.net> wrote:
>
> > On 08/07/2011 16:07, atriage wrote:
>
> > > Still getting plenty of crash practise in I see.
>
> > Another one, looks like Wiggins is out, Horner's on the ground too.
>
> I didn't see the Horner crash, but he's five minutes back or
> something.
>
> RadioShack's gremlins are working overtime.
>
> R
Bad things always seem to happen to YouKnowWho's former teammates...
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