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TOPIC: Besides Lemonds ITT to beat Fignon isn't it bad form to race on the
final day ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/24b72024ea4c0eb6?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 3:31 pm
From: Ryan Cousineau

On Jul 21, 7:31 pm, atriage <atri...@satriage.net> wrote:
> On 21/07/2011 23:26, --D-y wrote:
>
>
>
> > Add into the mix the fact that they found a way to ding Cavendish real
> > good again; HTC does have some motors and WTH, they might be for hire.
>
> Even if Cavendish is docked further point on stage 19 him and Rojas will be
> within a few points of each other and the HTC Train à Grande Vitesse is
> exclusively gonna be working to launch Cavendish down the Champs I'd have
> thought. I can't see Stapleton ordering anything which might complicate the
> issue. Besides that I don't see that there is much chance of the peleton
> splintering so that different times are awarded, it's a pan flat stage down wide
> roads and they are all gonna be travelling pretty much maxed out as HTC make
> damn sure of that on the final stage. The yellow jersey will be decided on
> Saturday almost certainly and only a big crash on Sunday will change anything.

1) Cav and about 90 other riders got a mercy from the race jury,
because they finished hors delai in one or both of the last two
stages. I love the guy, but I recognize Cadel Evans as the virtual
leader of the Points competition.

2) The reason flat stages are not contested by the GCers in the Tour
is because the chances of making time up are poor. They can best show
their strength elsewhere. There is a tradition of not having a "TV
escape" on the last day until the Champs (in practice it's a big
depart fictif until then, except the intermediate sprint). But that's
because in recent years the time to be made up was almost certainly
not available. The closest was 2007:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Tour_de_France,_Stage_11_to_Stage_20#Stage_20

Contador led Evans by 23", with Discovery teammate Leipheimer at 31".
No attack occurred.

3) If there are mere seconds separating the top steps on the podium, I
will be surprised if an attack isn't attempted. The question,
tactically, is whether the teams and riders in play could achieve
anything, but keep in mind that the race, at that point, will have
some of the character of a one-day race, not a stage race.

What do I mean? The GC rider in second will not care much about
conserving time and sitting in, so he can treat the event as win-or-
die. But sending a teammate up the road on an attack won't help,
because the GC rider himself has to gain the time. Also, a sprint
finish won't do: the GC rider has to gap his opponent by seconds.

So what would work? I think that if there were less than 10 seconds to
make up to win, you'd expect to see the attacking team hanging around
at the front, praying for a crosswind. Then they'd pick their spot and
try to jump as a team when the yellow jersey was about 20 wheels back.
Regardless, at that point it's on: all the attackers are trying to do
is, against all hope, snap the pack into "us" and "yellow jersey." If
they do that, then it's two TTTs of the damned, and riders getting
shed out everywhere.

Neither Leopard-Trek nor BMC have lost any riders yet. Schleck has
Cancellara working for him, but the two teams finished in the same
second on the TTT.

Conclusion

It depends on the time gap. But if my GC rider was leading the race by
8 seconds, I wouldn't let him spend a lot of time drinking champagne
from the team car. I'll guess that most DSes, rightly or wrongly,
wouldn't challenge a time gap greater than 20".

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 4:33 pm
From: DirtRoadie

On Jul 22, 4:31 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 21, 7:31 pm, atriage <atri...@satriage.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 21/07/2011 23:26, --D-y wrote:
>
> > > Add into the mix the fact that they found a way to ding Cavendish real
> > > good again; HTC does have some motors and WTH, they might be for hire.
>
> > Even if Cavendish is docked further point on stage 19 him and Rojas will be
> > within a few points of each other and the HTC Train à Grande Vitesse is
> > exclusively gonna be working to launch Cavendish down the Champs I'd have
> > thought. I can't see Stapleton ordering anything which might complicate the
> > issue. Besides that I don't see that there is much chance of the peleton
> > splintering so that different times are awarded, it's a pan flat stage down wide
> > roads and they are all gonna be travelling pretty much maxed out as HTC make
> > damn sure of that on the final stage. The yellow jersey will be decided on
> > Saturday almost certainly and only a big crash on Sunday will change anything.
>
> 1) Cav and about 90 other riders got a mercy from the race jury,
> because they finished hors delai in one or both of the last two
> stages. I love the guy, but I recognize Cadel Evans as the virtual
> leader of the Points competition.
>
> 2) The reason flat stages are not contested by the GCers in the Tour
> is because the chances of making time up are poor. They can best show
> their strength elsewhere. There is a tradition of not having a "TV
> escape" on the last day until the Champs (in practice it's a big
> depart fictif until then, except the intermediate sprint). But that's
> because in recent years the time to be made up was almost certainly
> not available. The closest was 2007:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Tour_de_France,_Stage_11_to_Stage_2...
>
> Contador led Evans by 23", with Discovery teammate Leipheimer at 31".
> No attack occurred.
>
> 3) If there are mere seconds separating the top steps on the podium, I
> will be surprised if an attack isn't attempted. The question,
> tactically, is whether the teams and riders in play could achieve
> anything, but keep in mind that the race, at that point, will have
> some of the character of a one-day race, not a stage race.
>
> What do I mean? The GC rider in second will not care much about
> conserving time and sitting in, so he can treat the event as win-or-
> die. But sending a teammate up the road on an attack won't help,
> because the GC rider himself has to gain the time. Also, a sprint
> finish won't do: the GC rider has to gap his opponent by seconds.
>
> So what would work? I think that if there were less than 10 seconds to
> make up to win, you'd expect to see the attacking team hanging around
> at the front, praying for a crosswind. Then they'd pick their spot and
> try to jump as a team when the yellow jersey was about 20 wheels back.
> Regardless, at that point it's on: all the attackers are trying to do
> is, against all hope, snap the pack into "us" and "yellow jersey." If
> they do that, then it's two TTTs of the damned, and riders getting
> shed out everywhere.
>
> Neither Leopard-Trek nor BMC have lost any riders yet. Schleck has
> Cancellara working for him, but the two teams finished in the same
> second on the TTT.
>
> Conclusion
>
> It depends on the time gap. But if my GC rider was leading the race by
> 8 seconds, I wouldn't let him spend a lot of time drinking champagne
> from the team car. I'll guess that most DSes, rightly or wrongly,
> wouldn't challenge a time gap greater than 20".

The problem with that scenario is that there is no surprise involved.
A vigilant leader and team is not going provide the stage for such a
one-and-only-one possibility. The MJ (and his team) ain't never
gonna' be 20 wheels back.
DR

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TOPIC: Peloton given time penalty freebie
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/7129901e2c9b4dd7?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 3:33 pm
From: Ryan Cousineau

On Jul 21, 2:23 pm, Choppy Warburton <choppywarbur...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Next time let the broom wagon run them down like an angry wife in a
> houston hotel parking lot.
>
> http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/07/news/time-cut-penalty-puts-rojas-back-into-green-jersey-battle_185399

If you sweep away all the riders who missed the nominal Stage 18 and
19 time cuts, Cadel Evans is the virtual Green Jersey leader. He has a
lock.

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TOPIC: A star is born - Pierre Rolland
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/dc09d561d17b2f72?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 3:42 pm
From: "A. Dumas"

Anton Berlin wrote:
> how does he time trial

He's rather crap. Try http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/h2h.asp and
enter Rolland v. Voeckler (and select race type TT, obviously).

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TOPIC: The way to go
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/c6709a8b324df809?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 3:44 pm
From: Ryan Cousineau

On Jul 21, 8:37 pm, Zenon <zenon_jask...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 21, 5:23 pm, ilan <ilan...@gmail.com> wrote:> For faithful rbr contributors:http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme/breves2011/20110721_223347_disparition...
> > The guy choked on his own vomit due to alcohol abuse.
>
> > -ilan
>
> .
> .
> .
> .
> Google translation....
> .
> .
> Disappearance: the alcohol in question
>
> An autopsy on the body's engineer found dead Tuesday morning at Gap
> revealed a death by suffocation as a result of significant alcohol
> consumption, said Thursday the floor of Gap. "The autopsy revealed a
> Mendelson's syndrome", that is to say, choking by regurgitation of
> gastric fluid in the airways, said the prosecutor of the Republic of
> Gap, Rémy Avon.
>
> "The evidence gathered during the investigation testified that the
> deceased had been drinking with colleagues in a festive, especially
> because of his birthday," he said. A BAC of 2.3 grams per liter of
> blood has been found in the victim, 59, found half submerged in the
> river Luye. The thesis of drowning, however, could be "excluded". The
> body of Patrick Guay, uncle of the rider Jerome Pineau, was
> repatriated in the department of Sarthe where it came from

I may be wrong, but I think that translates to a BAC reading of 0.23,
as usually expressed in North America. That's about triple the common
legal limit.

LIVEDRUNK reminds you, the recovery position saves lives:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recovery_position

If that garbled translation is right, though, he fatally aspirated his
own vomit, then fell in the river?! This is an unusual sequence of
events.

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TOPIC: Is Sanchez Basque?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/97050a254ab5a3d8?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 4:02 pm
From: Frederick the Great

Sanchez is hell for leather down the Col du Galibier
closing fast on a yellow neutral service car on the
right of the road that he zooms around while up ahead
is a red (official?) car on the far left with a
motorcycle behind. The red car slows and pulls further
to the left for Sanchez. The moroncycle driver pulls to
the right to get around the red car and Sanchez has to
veer strongly to the right to avoid piling into the motorcycle.

--
Old Fritz

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TOPIC: Andy Schleck shows class.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/8a31fe2d4b37df49?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 4:12 pm
From: Scott

On Jul 22, 3:34 pm, Frederick the Great <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Andy Schleck remonstrates with Gorka Izagirre of Euskaltel-Euskadi
> for going over the Col du Télégraphe in front of Schleck.
> Apparently Schleck thinks this is his coronation procession,
> and not a bicycle race.
>
> --
> Old Fritz

How about the scene where he was giving the other breakaway riders
grief for not pulling through, after he'd just spent the better part
of a few minutes on Contador's wheel and not pulling through himself.
Classically classless.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 5:40 pm
From: Frederick the Great

In article
<88d1a483-9df2-4262-b465-bcd32303d41b@d1g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Scott <hendricks_scott@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 22, 3:34 pm, Frederick the Great <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > Andy Schleck remonstrates with Gorka Izagirre of Euskaltel-Euskadi
> > for going over the Col du Télégraphe in front of Schleck.
> > Apparently Schleck thinks this is his coronation procession,
> > and not a bicycle race.
>
> How about the scene where he was giving the other breakaway riders
> grief for not pulling through, after he'd just spent the better part
> of a few minutes on Contador's wheel and not pulling through himself.
> Classically classless.

Is that the time about 5km out where
he tells Evans to tow him and his brother?
Enough to make Magilla pine for Armstrong.

--
Old Fritz

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 6:29 pm
From: Scott

On Jul 22, 6:40 pm, Frederick the Great <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> In article
> <88d1a483-9df2-4262-b465-bcd32303d...@d1g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jul 22, 3:34 pm, Frederick the Great <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > > Andy Schleck remonstrates with Gorka Izagirre of Euskaltel-Euskadi
> > > for going over the Col du Télégraphe in front of Schleck.
> > > Apparently Schleck thinks this is his coronation procession,
> > > and not a bicycle race.
>
> > How about the scene where he was giving the other breakaway riders
> > grief for not pulling through, after he'd just spent the better part
> > of a few minutes on Contador's wheel and not pulling through himself.
> > Classically classless.
>
> Is that the time about 5km out where
> he tells Evans to tow him and his brother?
> Enough to make Magilla pine for Armstrong.
>
> --
> Old Fritz

nope, on the early climb, Tommy V was still struggling in no man's
land at the time.

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TOPIC: Holy backhand, Batman!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/85830edbc987d6a9?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 4:59 pm
From: Scott

Love this photo:

http://velonews.competitor.com/files/2011/07/contipunch.jpg

He should've gotten off the bike and kicked in the nads.

What is it w/ buffoons who insist on dressing up like clowns and
interfering with the race?

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 5:38 pm
From: ilan

On Jul 23, 1:59 am, Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Love this photo:
>
> http://velonews.competitor.com/files/2011/07/contipunch.jpg
>
> He should've gotten off the bike and kicked in the nads.
>
> What is it w/ buffoons who insist on dressing up like clowns and
> interfering with the race?

This guy was spraying stuff into Contador's face.

-ilan

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 5:47 pm
From: "A. Dumas"

ilan wrote:
> On Jul 23, 1:59 am, Scott wrote:
>> http://velonews.competitor.com/files/2011/07/contipunch.jpg
>
> This guy was spraying stuff into Contador's face.

What I saw was that he pretended to use his stethoscope and touched him
with that.

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 6:28 pm
From: Scott

On Jul 22, 6:47 pm, "A. Dumas" <alexan...@dumas.fr.invalid> wrote:
> ilan wrote:
> > On Jul 23, 1:59 am, Scott wrote:
> >>http://velonews.competitor.com/files/2011/07/contipunch.jpg
>
> > This guy was spraying stuff into Contador's face.
>
> What I saw was that he pretended to use his stethoscope and touched him
> with that.

Still should've kicked him in the nads.

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 7:51 pm
From: --D-y

On Jul 22, 8:28 pm, Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 22, 6:47 pm, "A. Dumas" <alexan...@dumas.fr.invalid> wrote:
>
> > ilan wrote:
> > > On Jul 23, 1:59 am, Scott wrote:
> > >>http://velonews.competitor.com/files/2011/07/contipunch.jpg
>
> > > This guy was spraying stuff into Contador's face.
>
> > What I saw was that he pretended to use his stethoscope and touched him
> > with that.
>
> Still should've kicked him in the nads.

And not a word from the TdF org.
One self-righteous dickhead popped right in the nose. Warms the
cockles of my heart!
--D-y

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 7:53 pm
From: "derFahrer@gmail.com"

On Jul 22, 7:59 pm, Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> He should've gotten off the bike and kicked in the nads.

If you recall, Wladimir Belli was DQ'd from the Giro for landing a
punch on one of Simoni's hooligans

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TOPIC: Voeckler cracks wise.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/0f2d06490aed73f9?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 6:04 pm
From: Frederick the Great

In article <4e294d75$0$23904$e4fe514c@news2.news.xs4all.nl>,
"A. Dumas" <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> wrote:

> Frederick the Great wrote:
> > I still think BMC, Leopard, and Saxobank are morons
> > to have let [Voeckler] go in stage 9.
>
> They didn't, exactly. Chase got derailed in the Vino/JVDB crash. Gap
> ballooned from 2-3 to 6-7 minutes after that. But then Voeckler didn't
> let up after the attempted murder on Flecha and Hoogerland.

Right, I lost track of those events. Perhaps y'all have
figured out that I do not much like the Voeckler love
fest, or even Voeckler himself. The contenders should
not have ever let him off the front, but that is their
business.

Tommy, bayybee, (can I call you Tommy Baby?) it was
your countryman (Félix Édouard Justin Émile Borel)
(7 January 1871 - 3 February 1956), a founder of measure
theory and its application to probability theory &
member of the French resistance, who observed that a
probabilty of
0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 is
as good as "will never happen" so maybe it was not
exactly a zero probability as you said. Perhaps it was
because you had had a non-zero chance that you threw a
bottle out of your high chair.

--
Old Fritz

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TOPIC: just saw another brain dead moto driver
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/32c6cd3844feae06?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 6:05 pm
From: Frederick the Great

In article
<52469060-3a66-421f-b188-3b17ded873ea@10g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
ilan <ilanpsi@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 20, 10:46 pm, Frederick the Great <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > Just saw another brain dead moto driver stopped
> > in the high side exit of a nasty cobblestone
> > hair pin turn on the descent, totally robbing
> > Perez of his exit strategy. What a jerk.
>
> Took lessons here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raw7dFiu1Hw&feature=related

Thanks.

--
Old Fritz

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TOPIC: Liz Hatch Product Review - Garmin Edge 800
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/1e67d16a0b3751a2?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 6:11 pm
From: Frederick the Great

In article <kmunf8-p7k.ln1@linux-205.tricom.co.za>,
Simply Fred <none@mailinator.com> wrote:

> Zenon wrote:
> > http://twitter.com/#!/Liz_Hatch/status/94328532527886336
> > Garmin Edge 800 is a buggy ass piece of shit.
>
> She was putting out to many watts for the software to handle.

Reminds me of discussion elsewhere.
The Ariane 5 rocket had the Ariane 4
software dropped in without review.
The 5 puts out more watts, so when
an integer calculation overflowed,
an error condition went onto the bus,
but the ec was ignored and interpreted
as a maneuver that put the rocket into
a sharp turn that put it sideways and
it broke up from wind buffeting.

--
Old Fritz

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 6:31 pm
From: Scott

On Jul 22, 7:11 pm, Frederick the Great <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> In article <kmunf8-p7k....@linux-205.tricom.co.za>,
> Simply Fred <n...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>
> > Zenon wrote:
> > >http://twitter.com/#!/Liz_Hatch/status/94328532527886336
> > > Garmin Edge 800 is a buggy ass piece of shit.
>
> > She was putting out to many watts for the software to handle.
>
> Reminds me of discussion elsewhere.
> The Ariane 5 rocket had the Ariane 4
> software dropped in without review.
> The 5 puts out more watts, so when
> an integer calculation overflowed,
> an error condition went onto the bus,
> but the ec was ignored and interpreted
> as a maneuver that put the rocket into
> a sharp turn that put it sideways and
> it broke up from wind buffeting.
>
> --
> Old Fritz

I hate it when that happens.

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TOPIC: Overnight changes
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/fed1f2529ce1ad08?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 6:18 pm
From: Frederick the Great

In article
<1ff7d8a6-533e-45fa-8c8e-d571f3c8c1a2@n28g2000vbs.googlegroups.com>,
DirtRoadie <DirtRoadie@aol.com> wrote:

> The TdF is a traveling circus with lots of setup and takedown going on
> behind the scenes, but this is truly impressive:
>
> Yesterday the Galibier was 2645m
> http://bit.ly/qEK6dt
>
> Today it's only 2556m
> http://bit.ly/nEZ7NT

That is because it is.
Did you see them ride
through a tunnel yesterday?

--
Old Fritz

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TOPIC: Evans needs bike throwing lessons.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/3d19942e8bc30d5e?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 6:22 pm
From: Frederick the Great

Evans made no attempt to throw his bike
after it broke down. I cannot figure it.

So why didn't Contador wait for Evans? Bastard.

--
Old Fritz

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 7:40 pm
From: Dumbass

On Jul 22, 9:22 pm, Frederick the Great <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Evans made no attempt to throw his bike
> after it broke down. I cannot figure it.
>
> So why didn't Contador wait for Evans? Bastard.
>
> --
> Old Fritz

Contador had pull Schleck into the Yellow Jersey to make amends for
not waiting last year.

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TOPIC: Dick Head Alert
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/945a1aa964740438?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 6:53 pm
From: Zenon

.
http://twitter.com/#!/lancearmstrong/status/94473118948667392
.
Question: Why is it that a 7 time Tour "winner" is not celebrated in
France?
.
Answer: Because he's a fucking cheater that's why.
.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 7:03 pm
From: Scott

On Jul 22, 7:53 pm, Zenon <zenon_jask...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> .http://twitter.com/#!/lancearmstrong/status/94473118948667392
> .
> Question: Why is it that a 7 time Tour "winner" is not celebrated in
> France?
> .
> Answer: Because he's a fucking cheater that's why.
> .

The French are okay with cheaters.

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TOPIC: Evans actions on Stage 18
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/9d9353fe907e07b7?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 7:46 pm
From: Dumbass

Why did Evans not try to stay on Andy Schleck's wheel?

Was he too worn out?

Or, was he thinking that Schleck's breakaway was bound to fail?

Evans may have lost the race there, and I am trying to understand what
happened.

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TOPIC: Evans time trial last year was not so good
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/f57f0d5dc624686e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 7:59 pm
From: TheCoz

On Jul 22, 3:28 pm, Kevin Metcalfe <nslcke...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On Jul 22, 11:02 am, Dumbass <tadams...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > So, is he really better than Schleck at the TT?
>
> > He may have had low motivation last year.
>
> He also had a broken arm last year... Elbow I think.

It's been said that Andy has worked on his TT performace. Don't think
Evans can out do him.
Coz

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TOPIC: Rojas and Cavendish didn't make the cut.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/c855506412bf638a?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 10:33 am
From: atriage

On 22/07/2011 18:30, Anton Berlin wrote:
> On Jul 22, 12:23 pm, Ben Trovato<benn.trov...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jul 22, 9:26 am, atriage<atri...@satriage.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 22/07/2011 17:23, atriage wrote:
>>
>>>> What's the jury gonna do? Watch this space
>>
>>> Cav keeps green...very sensible these French juries.
>>
>>> --
>>
>> They know better than to expect Schlevans and the Accountant to put on
>> a show for the Champs.
>
> They both drop 20 points and everything stays the same.

No it doesn't, they both have 20 points less. (Sorry I haven't contradicted you
all day and I was getting withdrawal symptoms)

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 2:12 pm
From: "A. Dumas"

atriage wrote:
> On 22/07/2011 17:23, atriage wrote:
>> What's the jury gonna do? Watch this space
>
> Cav keeps green...very sensible these French juries.

They were *just* outside the time limit again today. Yesterday Rojas
made it in before the bus, easily, and didn't get a 20 point penalty,
which narrowed the gap to Cavendish for the green jersey. Very strange
that Rojas didn't put in a little more effort on the last kilometre
today. If he had, he would won the green by 5 points and the Champs
sprint would have been a lot more interesting.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 2:21 pm
From: atriage

On 22/07/2011 22:12, A. Dumas wrote:
> atriage wrote:
>> On 22/07/2011 17:23, atriage wrote:
>>> What's the jury gonna do? Watch this space
>>
>> Cav keeps green...very sensible these French juries.
>
> They were *just* outside the time limit again today. Yesterday Rojas made it in
> before the bus, easily, and didn't get a 20 point penalty, which narrowed the
> gap to Cavendish for the green jersey. Very strange that Rojas didn't put in a
> little more effort on the last kilometre today. If he had, he would won the
> green by 5 points and the Champs sprint would have been a lot more interesting.

It really irritated me that the tv coverage only included a brief shot of the
bus arriving, I suppose they were so overwhelmed by a French win they didn't
think anything else was interesting.

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 2:48 pm
From: Ryan Cousineau

On Jul 22, 10:30 am, atriage <atri...@satriage.net> wrote:
> On 22/07/2011 18:23, Ben Trovato wrote:
>
> > On Jul 22, 9:26 am, atriage<atri...@satriage.net> wrote:
> >> On 22/07/2011 17:23, atriage wrote:
>
> >>> What's the jury gonna do? Watch this space
>
> >> Cav keeps green...very sensible these French juries.
>
> >> --
>
> > They know better than to expect Schlevans and the Accountant to put on
> > a show for the Champs.
>
> :)

This allowed me to do something very fun, which is...calcluate a
virtual winner of the Points Jersey!

The jury assigned point penalties to 89 riders on Thursday, according
to Cyclingnews, for being technically HD, but kept them in the race.
That's everyone from Richie Porte back.
On Friday, the laughing group again got a points penalty for the same
reason. Sergio Miguel Moreira appears to have been the last finisher
to make the official time cut; 85th-place Gutierrez was the first in
technical HD, I think.

If you wipe all the riders from the Points Classification who went HD
on each day, the virtual green jersey belongs to...Cadel Evans! To my
surprise, he's fifth in the points standings. He gained a few places
this week due to the points penalties and some high finishes. Sanchez
appears to be the virtual runner-up, and he cannot catch Evans, as
there are only 65 points left in the final stage.

So if Cadel Evans finishes in Paris, I'll start referring to him as
the virtual winner of the green jersey.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 2:59 pm
From: atriage

On 22/07/2011 22:48, Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> On Jul 22, 10:30 am, atriage<atri...@satriage.net> wrote:
>> On 22/07/2011 18:23, Ben Trovato wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 22, 9:26 am, atriage<atri...@satriage.net> wrote:
>>>> On 22/07/2011 17:23, atriage wrote:
>>
>>>>> What's the jury gonna do? Watch this space
>>
>>>> Cav keeps green...very sensible these French juries.
>>
>>>> --
>>
>>> They know better than to expect Schlevans and the Accountant to put on
>>> a show for the Champs.
>>
>> :)
>
> This allowed me to do something very fun, which is...calcluate a
> virtual winner of the Points Jersey!
>
> The jury assigned point penalties to 89 riders on Thursday, according
> to Cyclingnews, for being technically HD, but kept them in the race.
> That's everyone from Richie Porte back.
> On Friday, the laughing group again got a points penalty for the same
> reason. Sergio Miguel Moreira appears to have been the last finisher
> to make the official time cut; 85th-place Gutierrez was the first in
> technical HD, I think.
>
> If you wipe all the riders from the Points Classification who went HD
> on each day, the virtual green jersey belongs to...Cadel Evans! To my
> surprise, he's fifth in the points standings. He gained a few places
> this week due to the points penalties and some high finishes. Sanchez
> appears to be the virtual runner-up, and he cannot catch Evans, as
> there are only 65 points left in the final stage.
>
> So if Cadel Evans finishes in Paris, I'll start referring to him as
> the virtual winner of the green jersey.

So if he wins the Grenoble TT and takes yellow in Paris he could be the first
rider in history to wear the chartreuse jersey. Sorry...I'll get my coat.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 11:00 am
From: Dumbass

On Jul 21, 8:13 pm, ilan <ilan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 21, 8:45 pm, Jimmy July <F...@Burger.com> wrote:
>
> > On 07/21/2011 08:48 AM, Anton Berlin wrote:
>
> > > Code for "not doped".
>
> > > Just a nice attack, some good tactics and a little help from
> > > friends.
>
> > The last time this message was posted, the rider was Floyd Landis and
> > the poster was Lafferty. Thanks for the reminder. Good times!
>
> That's funny, because none of the French TV commentators or Bernard
> Hinault could recall the last time that a GC contender made a long
> lone attack, not even Ullrich in the 2003 Tour.
>
> -ilan

Was not really lone, he drafted on the downhill and flats to the last
climb behind a teammate Monfort. But VS did not show it all, so I am
not sure how long he drafted. He did make a lone ascent on the HC
climb.

Does not really compare with Landis. But Landis had better whisky.

== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 11:02 am
From: Dumbass

So, is he really better than Schleck at the TT?

He may have had low motivation last year.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 11:53 am
From: DirtRoadie

On Jul 22, 12:02 pm, Dumbass <tadams...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> So, is he really better than Schleck at the TT?
>
> He may have had low motivation last year.

He really is better. The question is, how much?
And will a yellow shirt do for AS what it did for TV?

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 1:28 pm
From: Kevin Metcalfe

On Jul 22, 11:02 am, Dumbass <tadams...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> So, is he really better than Schleck at the TT?
>
> He may have had low motivation last year.

He also had a broken arm last year... Elbow I think.

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TOPIC: Annecy 2009 Time Trial 40.5 Results - I hope Evans has a better
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 11:15 am
From: Anton Berlin

Based on this Evans can take 30 seconds out of Andy leaving Schleck
with the win and Evans in 2nd and Frank in 3rd.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 1:34 pm
From: Scott

On Jul 22, 12:15 pm, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Based on this Evans can take 30 seconds out of Andy leaving Schleck
> with the win and Evans in 2nd and Frank in 3rd.

Well, hell... why even bother to hold the stage???

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 1:47 pm
From: Anton Berlin

the difference between "can" and "will"

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 2:03 pm
From: Anton Berlin

The same course was used in the Dauphine - Cadel did a 56:47 for
sixth. Schleck hasn't ridden the course.

1 Tony Martin (Ger) HTC-Highroad 00:55:27
2 Bradley Wiggins (GBr) Sky Procycling 0:00:11
3 Edvald Boasson Hagen (Nor) Sky Procycling 0:00:43
4 David Zabriskie (USA) Team Garmin-Cervelo 0:00:58
5 Janez Brajkovic (Slo) Team RadioShack 0:01:17

6 Cadel Evans (Aus) BMC Racing Team 0:01:20

7 Geraint Thomas (GBr) Sky Procycling 0:01:36
8 Christophe Riblon (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale 0:01:37
9 Rein Taaramae (Est) Cofidis, Le Credit En Ligne 0:01:56
10 Rui Alberto Faria Costa (Por) Movistar Team 0:02:00
11 Kanstantsin Sivtsov (Blr) HTC-Highroad 0:02:02
12 Adriano Malori (Ita) Lampre - ISD 0:02:04
13 Jerome Coppel (Fra) Saur - Sojasun 0:02:08
14 Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz) Pro Team Astana 0:02:18
15 Ben Hermans (Bel) Team RadioShack 0:02:26
16 Jérémy Roy (Fra) FDJ 0:02:38
17 Jurgen Van Den Broeck (Bel) Omega Pharma-Lotto 0:02:39
18 Rigoberto Uran Uran (Col) Sky Procycling 0:02:41
19 Kristijan Koren (Slo) Liquigas-Cannondale 0:02:43
20 Blel Kadri (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale
21 Christophe Kern (Fra) Team Europcar 0:02:45
22 Matthew Busche (USA) Team RadioShack 0:02:46
23 Robert Gesink (Ned) Rabobank Cycling Team 0:02:49
24 Thomas Rohregger (Aut) Leopard Trek 0:02:52
25 Brian Vandborg (Den) Saxo Bank Sungard 0:02:53
26 Jean-Christophe Peraud (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale
27 Maxime Bouet (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale 0:02:55
28 Lieuwe Westra (Ned) Vacansoleil-DCM Pro Cycling Team 0:03:01
29 Vladimir Karpets (Rus) Katusha Team 0:03:02
30 David Moncoutie (Fra) Cofidis, Le Credit En Ligne

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 11:25 am
From: Bob Martin

Stage 19 : Jul 22, Modane - Alpe-d'Huez, 109 km

1 Pierre Rolland (Fra) Team Europcar 3.13.25
2 Samuel Sanchez Gonzalez (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 0.14
3 Alberto Contador Velasco (Spa) Saxo Bank Sungard 0.23
4 Peter Velits (Svk) HTC-Highroad 0.57
5 Cadel Evans (Aus) BMC Racing Team
6 Thomas De Gendt (Bel) Vacansoleil-DCM Pro Cycling Team
7 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Lampre - ISD
8 Frank Schleck (Lux) Leopard Trek
9 Andy Schleck (Lux) Leopard Trek
10 Ryder Hesjedal (Can) Team Garmin-Cervelo 1.15

Changes in GC, stage 19 compared to stage 18 :

Biggest gainers by position :
+29 Sebastien Minard
+27 Blel Kadri
+18 Niki Terpstra
+15 Jesus Hernandez Blazquez
+13 Jonathan Hivert
+13 Gianni Meersman
+12 Pablo Urtasun Perez
+12 Fabrice Jeandesboz
+11 Simon Gerrans
+11 Perrig Quemeneur

Biggest losers by position :
-11 Daniel Navarro Garcia
-8 Egor Silin
-8 Rigoberto Uran
-8 Thor Hushovd
-7 Nicolas Roche
-7 Ruben Perez Moreno
-6 Andrey Zeits
-6 David Millar
-6 Dries Devenyns
-6 Nicki Sorensen
-6 Tony Gallopin

Biggest gainers by time :
+1:12 Pierre Rolland
+0:58 Samuel Sanchez Gonzalez
+0:49 Alberto Contador Velasco
+0:15 Thomas De Gendt
+0:15 Peter Velits
+0:15 Frank Schleck
+0:15 Damiano Cunego
+0:15 Cadel Evans
+0:15 Andy Schleck

Biggest losers by time :
-24:15 Addy Engels
-24:15 Adriano Malori
-24:15 Alan Perez Lezaun
-24:15 Alessandro Petacchi
-24:15 Alessandro Vanotti
-24:15 Andre Greipel
-24:15 Andrei Amador Bipkazacova
-24:15 Andrey Zeits
-24:15 Andriy Grivko
-24:15 Anthony Delaplace
-24:15 Arnaud Coyot

Favourites by position :
+2 Levi Leipheimer
+2 David Arroyo Duran
+1 Samuel Sanchez Gonzalez
+1 Luis Leon Sanchez Gil
+1 Frank Schleck
+1 Cadel Evans
+1 Andy Schleck
+1 Alberto Contador Velasco
-1 Robert Gesink
-2 Ivan Basso

Favourites by time :
+0:58 Samuel Sanchez Gonzalez
+0:49 Alberto Contador Velasco
+0:15 Frank Schleck
+0:15 Cadel Evans
+0:15 Andy Schleck
-0:54 Levi Leipheimer
-0:54 Ivan Basso
-8:35 David Arroyo Duran
-9:47 Robert Gesink
-11:26 Luis Leon Sanchez Gil
-11:54 Jens Voigt
-24:15 Roman Kreuziger

Top 10 and favourites GC standings (previous stage in parens) :
1 Andy Schleck 82:48:43 (was 2nd at 0:15)
2 Frank Schleck 0:53 (was 3rd at 1:08)
3 Cadel Evans 0:57 (was 4th at 1:12)
4 Thomas Voeckler 2:10 (was 1st at 0:00)
5 Damiano Cunego 3:31 (was 5th at 3:46)
6 Alberto Contador Velasco 3:55 (was 7th at 4:44)
7 Samuel Sanchez Gonzalez 4:22 (was 8th at 5:20)
8 Ivan Basso 4:40 (was 6th at 3:46)
9 Thomas Danielson 7:11 (was 9th at 7:08)
10 Pierre Rolland 8:57 (was 12th at 10:09)
.....
32 Levi Leipheimer 59:24 (was 34th at 58:30)
33 Robert Gesink 1:02:12 (was 32nd at 52:25)
.....
35 David Arroyo Duran 1:09:30 (was 37th at 1:00:55)
.....
56 Luis Leon Sanchez Gil 1:41:57 (was 57th at 1:30:31)
.....
63 Jens Voigt 1:52:23 (was 63rd at 1:40:29)
.....
112 Roman Kreuziger 2:55:53 (was 112nd at 2:31:38)

Top 10 on Points table with previous in parens:
1 Mark Cavendish 280 (was 1st with 300 points)
2 Jose Joaquin Rojas Gil 265 (was 2nd with 285 points)
3 Philippe Gilbert 230 (unchanged)
4 Thor Hushovd 195 (was 4th with 215 points)
5 Cadel Evans 191 (was 5th with 180 points)
6 Edvald Boasson Hagen 153 (unchanged)
7 Andre Greipel 130 (was 7th with 150 points)
8 Tyler Farrar 101 (was 8th with 121 points)
9 Samuel Sanchez Gonzalez 96 (was 12th with 79 points)
10 Frank Schleck 94 (was 11th with 86 points)

Top 10 on Mountains table with previous in parens:
1 Samuel Sanchez Gonzalez 108 (was 2nd with 72 points)
2 Andy Schleck 98 (was 3rd with 70 points)
3 Jelle Vanendert 74 (was 1st with 74 points)
4 Cadel Evans 58 (was 5th with 50 points)
5 Frank Schleck 56 (was 4th with 56 points)
6 Alberto Contador Velasco 51 (was 36th with 5 points)
7 Jeremy Roy 45 (was 6th with 45 points)
8 Pierre Rolland 44 (was 37th with 4 points)
9 Maxim Iglinskiy 40 (was 7th with 40 points)
10 Johnny Hoogerland 40 (was 9th with 38 points)

Retirements to date : Stage
Bjorn Leukemans (Bel) Vacansoleil-DCM Pro Cycling Team 19 <<<
Leonardo Bertagnolli (Ita) Lampre - ISD 18
Paolo Tiralongo (Ita) Pro Team Astana 17
William Bonnet (Fra) FDJ 14
Andreas Kloden (Ger) Team RadioShack 13
Gert Steegmans (Bel) Quickstep Cycling Team 13
Lars Boom (Ned) Rabobank Cycling Team 13
Vladimir Isiachev (Rus) Katusha Team 13
Denis Galimzyanov (Rus) Katusha Team 12
Romain Feillu (Fra) Vacansoleil-DCM Pro Cycling Team 12
John Gadret (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale 11
Alexandr Kolobnev (Rus) Katusha Team 10
Yaroslav Popovych (Ukr) Team RadioShack 10
Alexander Vinokourov (Kaz) Pro Team Astana 9
Amets Txurruka (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 9
David Zabriskie (USA) Team Garmin-Cervelo 9
Frederik Willems (Bel) Omega Pharma-Lotto 9
Juan Manuel Garate Cepa (Spa) Rabobank Cycling Team 9
Jurgen Van Den Broeck (Bel) Omega Pharma-Lotto 9
Pavel Brutt (Rus) Katusha Team 9
Wout Poels (Ned) Vacansoleil-DCM Pro Cycling Team 9
Benat Intxausti Elorriaga (Spa) Movistar Team 8
Christopher Horner (USA) Team RadioShack 8
Bradley Wiggins (GBr) Sky Procycling 7
Remi Pauriol (Fra) FDJ 7
Tom Boonen (Bel) Quickstep Cycling Team 7
Ivan Murillo Velasco (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 6
Vasili Kiryienka (Blr) Movistar Team 6
Christophe Kern (Fra) Team Europcar 5
Janez Brajkovic (Slo) Team RadioShack 5
Jurgen Van De Walle (Bel) Omega Pharma-Lotto 4
Total retirements : 31

(This report can also be seen at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rvmartin2)

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 1:54 pm
From: atriage

On 22/07/2011 19:25, Bob Martin wrote:

> +11 Perrig Quemeneur
>

Admit it Bob, you made that name up.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 1:15 pm
From: Frederick the Great

There is a big block of white space on the Leopard Trek jerseys.
At least they could print "Watch this space".

--
Old Fritz

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 1:57 pm
From: atriage

On 22/07/2011 14:47, Anton Berlin wrote:
> On Jul 22, 4:13 am, Zenon<zenon_jask...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> http://twitter.com/#!/Liz_Hatch/status/94328532527886336
>>
>> Garmin Edge 800 is a buggy ass piece of shit.
>
> Tell her is doesn't log any miles or change it's position until she
> actually rides the bicycle.

Don't be silly, the hrm goes crazy when she's self-stimulating in the bath.

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 2:06 pm
From: "A. Dumas"

DirtRoadie wrote:
> On Jul 22, 8:21 am, Anton Berlin wrote:
>> Yes you could see where the tunnel was lower than the finish
>> yesterday.
>
> Yup. Been there. It's almost directly under the summit. I just didn't
> realize they would use it.

Travesty. Those last hairpins above the tunnel on both sides are the
best. This was the first time since both the road and the tunnel were
accessible (2002) that they opted for the tunnel. (Before 1974 there was
only the tunnel, between 1974 and 2002 the tunnel was closed.)

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 1:44 pm
From: --D-y

On Jul 22, 11:01 am, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> how does he time trial and where does he get his dope?

We'll find out tomorrow, and we'll find out later.
--D-y

== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 2:34 pm
From: Frederick the Great

Andy Schleck remonstrates with Gorka Izagirre of Euskaltel-Euskadi
for going over the Col du Télégraphe in front of Schleck.
Apparently Schleck thinks this is his coronation procession,
and not a bicycle race.

--
Old Fritz

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 2:45 pm
From: atriage

On 22/07/2011 22:34, Frederick the Great wrote:
> Andy Schleck remonstrates with Gorka Izagirre of Euskaltel-Euskadi
> for going over the Col du Télégraphe in front of Schleck.
> Apparently Schleck thinks this is his coronation procession,
> and not a bicycle race.
>

Probably Cuddly Evans will disabuse him of that notion tomorrow.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 3:06 pm
From: Simply Fred

Anton Berlin wrote:
>> http://www.thescore.ie/landis-contadors-coach-used-to-be-my-drug-deal...

Jason Spaceman wrote:
> Floyd likes steak too.

Steak and Jack Daniels.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 3:31 pm
From: Frederick the Great

Evans attacks near the top of the Col du Galibier,
and Voeckler shoots out the back.

--
Old Fritz

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 3:31 pm
From: Ryan Cousineau

Contador led Evans by 23", with Discovery teammate Leipheimer at 31".
No attack occurred.

Neither Leopard-Trek nor BMC have lost any riders yet. Schleck has
Cancellara working for him, but the two teams finished in the same
second on the TTT.

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An impartial and independent investigation is to be initiated against the perpetrator police officials and stern judicial action is to be taken against them.
We demand that a First Information Report(FIR) must be directed to be registered forthwith and the police must be directed to recover the victim girl immediately
We also demand that appropriate charge(s) must be incorporated in the FIR under The Immoral Trafficking (Prevention) Act (ITPA) and the police must be directed to probe accordingly.
Appropriate rehabilitation and compensation is to be provided to the victim.

Thanking you,

Yours truly,

(Kirity Roy)

Secretary, MASUM

National Convenor, PACTI

Particulars of the victim: - Nafija Khatun(name changed), aged about-16 years, residing at village-Kakra, Post Office-Kachua, Police Station-Basirhat, District-North 24 Parganas, West Bengal, India.

Particulars of the perpetrators: - The Officer-in-charge of Basirhat Police station, District-North 24 Parganas

Case Details:-

It is revealed during our fact finding that the victim girl was student of class-IX. She is minor by age, only aged about 15 years. On 16.3.2010 one Amena Khatun, aged about 24 years who used to read in the same school where the victim girl was student took the victim girl to her sister's house. But the victim girl did not return to house. The victim's family started searching for the victim and they also went to the house of Amena Khatun and asked for the whereabouts of the victim girl and Amena Khatun. Then the brother of Amena Khatun accompanied the family of the victim girl to police station and one information was lodged at police station vide GDE no. 1088/2010 dated 17.3.2010. On the next day (18.3.2010) the victim's family received information that on 16.3.2010 at about 12.40 pm the said Amena Khatun and the victim girl boarded into a train at Kakra Mirjanagar Railway Station. The train was destined to go to Sealdah Railway Station. On 28.10.2010 the victim's family received information that the said Amena Khatun returned to her house in Karulia village. The victim's family went to her house and asked her about the whereabouts of the victim girl. On reply she stated that they got off from train at Sealdah Railway Station and immediately 4/5 men forcibly took away the victim girl upon tying a handkerchief on her mouth. She could not say anything more. On further questioning by the family of the victim girl she stated that she was in Mumbai before she returned to her house. Subsequently the victim's family came to know from local people that the said Amena Khatun is lady of questionable character and this raised strong suspicion to the family members of the victim girl that the said Amena Khatun immorally trafficked the victim girl.

The victim's family went to Basirhat Police Station with a written complaint against the said Amena Khatun, but the police refused to take the written complaint and also denied of registering any First Information Report against the accused woman. The victim's family then lodged written complaint before the Superintendent of Police, North 24 Parganas on 6.6.2011 alleging against the inaction of police of Basirhat Police Station not taking any action against the accused person involved in the abduction and alleged trafficking of the victim girl.

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Press Review for July 22, 2011

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Friday, July 22, 2011

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Today's Headlines:

EBRD Warns On Eastern Europe Recovery
Major Aid Donors Pull Out Of Malawi
Catching Small Fish Has A Big Impact
Going Into Hospital Far Riskier Than Flying: WHO
Interview: Incoming FAO Chief Says Brazil Program Offers Model For Fighting Global Hunger

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EBRD Warns On Eastern Europe Recovery. "Any escalation of the eurozone crisis would pose serious risks to the economic recovery in Eastern Europe and could push parts of the region into a new downturn, the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development (EBRD) has warned. The warning comes with publication on Friday of the bank's latest growth forecasts for its 29-country region of operation…." [Financial Times]

Bloomberg writes that "…the EBRD raised its 2011 economic growth forecast for the 29 countries in which it invests to 4.8 percent from 4.6 percent predicted in May, while still expecting a slowdown to 4.4 percent next year, the bank said in its report. The prediction 'assumes a relatively benign external environment in which risks from the euro zone are contained,' the EBRD said…. [However,] an unresolved sovereign crisis would halt investment and capital inflows to eastern Europe and losses booked by western banks, owners of more than 70 percent of regional lenders, would prompt them to curb loans, the EBRD warned…." [Bloomberg]

The Wall Street Journal adds that "…EBRD also said countries in southeastern Europe are particularly vulnerable to an intensification of the crisis, partly because of the role Greek banks play in providing credit. 'Significant parts of the region's banks are owned by Greek banks,' the bank said. 'In the event of an escalation of the crisis, some of these could require financial support and may struggle to keep up their lending to the local economies.'…

EBRD said among its countries of operation, the economies of southeastern Europe have experienced the weakest recovery and are likely to expand by just 2.3 percent this year. By contrast, the bank expects the economies of central Asia will grow by 7.3 percent and the economies of central Europe and the Baltics to grow by 3.5 percent…." [The Wall Street Journal]

Major Aid Donors Pull Out Of Malawi. "…Malawi is facing severe shortages of foreign exchange, leading to strict controls on the export of hard currency and causing problems for businesses that need foreign currency to pay for imports. Power cuts in the country's electricity system have compounded public dissatisfaction….

Last week Britain indefinitely suspended part of its aid program, worth GBP19 million. The World Bank, the African Development Bank, the EU, Germany and Norway have also suspended or ended budget support for Malawi. The UK has expressed concern over Malawi's overvalued exchange rate, which has badly hurt the Malawian private sector. The International Monetary Fund has been pressing for the government to devalue the kwacha on the grounds that the current exchange rate is a barrier to 'economic diversification.'…" [The Guardian (UK)]

Meanwhile, Reuters reports that "…at least 18 people have been killed in clashes between police and demonstrators during violent nationwide protests against President Bingu wa Mutharika, the Malawian health ministry said on Thursday. Spokesman Henry Chimbali confirmed 10 deaths in the northern cities of Karonga and Mzuzu, where protesters angry at chronic fuel shortages and Mutharika's perceived autocracy ransacked the offices of his Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) on Wednesday. The others died in the capital, Lilongwe, and the southern commercial hub of Blantyre after police and troops fired teargas to disperse crowds demanding Mutharika quit…." [Reuters]

AP adds that "…Amnesty International said eight journalists were beaten by police during Wednesday's protests, and a female radio reporter was seriously wounded…. The situation was tense but calm Thursday amid a heavy military and police deployment on the streets in the country's two main cities…." [Associated Press]

Catching Small Fish Has A Big Impact. "It's long been known that disturbing predators at the top of their food chain can have severe effects that cascade down to lower-level species. But a new study shows that fishing for species near the bottom of the food chain can have also a big impact. Research involving the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization (CSIRO), University of Queensland and University of Tasmania suggests that harvesting of small fish can have a substantial effect on the surrounding marine life…." [ABC News (Australia)]

TIME adds that "…fishing species like anchovies and herrings at what are known as conventional maximum sustainable yields (MSY) – the levels at which fishery managers believe produces the most protein without leading to overfishing – can cause problems for the rest of the food web. Forage fish provide the fuel for marine ecosystems; remove the fuel, and that system can break down…." [TIME Magazine (US)]

Reuters writes that "…lead author Tony Smith said that the findings, published in the journal Science, were the first comprehensive analysis of how catching small fish, as well as shrimp-like krill, can disrupt marine food chains and so affect human food supplies…. The scientists, who used computer models to study stocks of small fish off Peru, the California current, southern Africa, the North Sea and Australia, suggested that catches of should be cut sharply, perhaps backed up by no-fishing zones…." [Reuters]

Going Into Hospital Far Riskier Than Flying: WHO. "Millions of people die each year from medical errors and infections linked to health care and going into hospital is far riskier than flying, the World Health Organization (WHO) said on Thursday. 'If you were admitted to hospital tomorrow in any country... your chances of being subjected to an error in your care would be something like 1 in 10. Your chances of dying due to an error in health care would be 1 in 300,' Liam Donaldson, the WHO's newly appointed envoy for patient safety, told a news briefing….

Of every 100 hospitalized patients at any given time, 7 in developed and 10 in developing countries will acquire at least one health care-associated infection, according to the UN agency. 'The longer patients stay in an ICU (intensive care unit), the more at risk they become of acquiring an infection,' it said. Medical devices such as urinary catheters and ventilators are associated with high infection rates…." [Reuters]

The Vancouver Sun adds that "…WHO launched its Patient Safety Program in 2004 to raise awareness of simple common-sense measures that can reduce the incidence of hospitals being places where the sick get even sicker. Since then, approximately 13,000 health-care settings globally have reduced infection rates by having health-care providers wash their hands more frequently, program administrators say.

More than 100,000 hospitals worldwide, meanwhile, use the program's Safe Surgery Checklist. Among the checklist's stipulations: 'Confirm all team members have introduced themselves by name and role.' WHO says the list has reduced surgery complications by 33 percent, and deaths by 50 percent…." [The Vancouver Sun]

Interview: Incoming FAO Chief Says Brazil Program Offers Model For Fighting Global Hunger. In an interview with The Wall Street Journal, UN Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) Director-General-Elect Jose Graziano da Silva said, "Brazil's success in combating hunger could provide a template for governments in the growing fight to feed the world…. Graziano, the father of Brazil's much-lauded Zero Hunger program, said the world food system is undergoing a fundamental shift as rich and emerging countries alike struggle with the growing problem of food security.

He said his experiences as Brazil's extraordinary minister of food security and fight against hunger have been key to shaping his belief that tackling hunger isn't just about producing enough food, but ensuring the poorest have access to it…. Zero Hunger integrated 50 policies, involving everything from direct financial aid for small farmers to low-cost restaurants, in order to feed the poorest and alleviate extreme poverty – the root cause of hunger….

To do this, Graziano said, the FAO must work more closely with its Rome-based sister agencies – the World Food Program, the World Food Council and the International Fund for Agricultural Development – traditionally its rivals…. The private sector also has a role to play, he said, though to do so companies must become more transparent in how they operate…. 'We need to start to work in a more participative and transparent way,' he says. 'We need to show that we can do a good job with the money we have and give our donors good value; if we have good projects we will find money for them.'" [The Wall Street Journal]

Also in This Edition, Briefly Noted… The World Food Program (WFP) will start flying aid into Mogadishu within days, the WFP said Thursday, after the UN officially declared a famine in two regions of southern Somalia. [Agence France Presse]

Somalia's al-Shabab Islamists have denied lifting their ban on Western aid agencies and say UN reports of famine are sheer propaganda. [BBC News]

International Finance Corporation (IFC), a member of the World Bank Group, said Thursday that it has made record investments results in the Asia-Pacific region during fiscal year 2011, with its investment commitments in 120 projects totaling $3.9 billion for the region. [Xinhua]

China's manufacturing sector could be heading for its first contraction in a year as orders drop and factories battle against persistent inflation, according to a survey published on Thursday by HSBC. [Financial Times]

The UN is extending a $370 million grant to finance poverty reduction programs in the Philippines in the next seven years. [Xinhua]

Bangladesh has signed a loan agreement worth $195 million with the World Bank for a project to produce and distribute new national identity cards to an estimated 90 million citizens of 18 years and above. [Xinhua]

European leaders have said the eurozone, the International Monetary Fund and the private sector will all contribute towards a second package of emergency loans for Greece. EU heads of state agreed in Brussels on Thursday to lend insolvent Greece an additional EUR109 billion while at the same time securing a pledge that the private financial sector would make its own contribution of EUR37 billion. [Deutsche Welle]

Tajikistan's central bank raised its 2011 inflation target to 11 percent on Thursday, citing a sharp increase in fuel and food prices for consumers. [Reuters]

Morocco and the Frente Polisario failed to reach any consensus at the latest round of UN-backed informal talks on the Western Sahara, officials said Thursday. [Xinhua]

Egyptian Prime Minister Essam Sharaf promised on Thursday to set up an anti-corruption body and work to end a 30-year-emergency law to placate protesters demanding faster reforms. [Reuters]

Governments and private donors should spend more on preventing humanitarian disasters instead of focusing on mitigating their effects, Global Humanitarian Assistance said Thursday. [Agence France Presse]

Hopes of rescuing a small trade deal from the ashes of the Doha round of global talks are likely to be dashed, several trade negotiators said on Thursday. [Reuters]

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