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Today's topics:
* Big George (spaghetti-legs) Hincapie...9 times in a tour winning team - 6
messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/a01a145fdaf65985?hl=en
* Tour de France, stage 20 summary - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/fe3c1af000d74612?hl=en
* I hope Cadel Evans doesn't win - 4 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/c2e175eb616977e1?hl=en
* Cuisine for RBR Regulars on final day of Tour de France - 3 messages, 3
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/ae04618c4c093624?hl=en
* Jan Ullrich - 7 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/a43dcf43e3df1d4f?hl=en
* If your name is Schleck... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/e2cf8420a23a7787?hl=en
* The kind of racing that makes my day. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/696cbca9c44d84ce?hl=en
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TOPIC: Big George (spaghetti-legs) Hincapie...9 times in a tour winning team
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/a01a145fdaf65985?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 2:47 pm
From: Zenon
On Jul 23, 2:45 pm, --D-y <dustoyev...@mac.com> wrote:
> On Jul 23, 1:46 pm, atriage <atri...@satriage.net> wrote:> Very impressive palmares or whathttp://www.cyclingnews.com/news/hincapie-part-of-nine-tour-de-france-...
> > --
>
> Plus how many stage wins with Cavendish, and the Green Jersey he
> (Cavendish) got screwed out of?
>
> Nobody cares until he wins Paris-Roubaix.
> And then there will be something wrong with that, too. <g>
> --D-y
.
.
Spaghetti legs is right....
.
http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1536&bih=770&q=hincapie+veins&gbv=2&oq=hincapie&aq=4&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_sm=c&gs_upl=833l2707l0l5619l10l9l1l2l2l0l267l1234l0.3.3l6
.
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== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 3:20 pm
From: atriage
On 23/07/2011 22:47, Zenon wrote:
> On Jul 23, 2:45 pm, --D-y<dustoyev...@mac.com> wrote:
>> On Jul 23, 1:46 pm, atriage<atri...@satriage.net> wrote:> Very impressive palmares or whathttp://www.cyclingnews.com/news/hincapie-part-of-nine-tour-de-france-...
>>> --
>>
>> Plus how many stage wins with Cavendish, and the Green Jersey he
>> (Cavendish) got screwed out of?
>>
>> Nobody cares until he wins Paris-Roubaix.
>> And then there will be something wrong with that, too.<g>
>> --D-y
>
> .
> .
> Spaghetti legs is right....
> .
> http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1536&bih=770&q=hincapie+veins&gbv=2&oq=hincapie&aq=4&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_sm=c&gs_upl=833l2707l0l5619l10l9l1l2l2l0l267l1234l0.3.3l6
> .
>
> .
One of the causes of Spaghetti legs is hormonal imbalance, this can be caused by:-
a. Being slammed into the road at 40 mph
b. Certain...erm...preparatory substances
c. Repeated doses of a and b
d. Living on a fucking bicycle for three weeks while you view the French
countryside at high speed while eating chemical stuff nominally called food out
of plastic packets.
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== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 4:54 pm
From: Fredmaster of Brainerd
On Jul 23, 11:45 pm, --D-y <dustoyev...@mac.com> wrote:
> On Jul 23, 1:46 pm, atriage <atri...@satriage.net> wrote:> Very impressive palmares or whathttp://www.cyclingnews.com/news/hincapie-part-of-nine-tour-de-france-...
> > --
>
> Plus how many stage wins with Cavendish, and the Green Jersey he
> (Cavendish) got screwed out of?
Jesus Christballs,
You can turn even a thread about Hincapie into a
thread about poor wittle wronged Cavendish.
That makes you a bigger Cavendish fanboi
than Mark Cavendish, and that's saying something.
A sprint on the Champs without the big sprinters would be
incomplete, but Cavendish is also just lucky he's still in the race.
Fredmaster Ben
== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 5:26 pm
From: --D-y
On Jul 23, 6:54 pm, Fredmaster of Brainerd <bjwei...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 23, 11:45 pm, --D-y <dustoyev...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 23, 1:46 pm, atriage <atri...@satriage.net> wrote:> Very impressive palmares or whathttp://www.cyclingnews.com/news/hincapie-part-of-nine-tour-de-france-...
> > > --
>
> > Plus how many stage wins with Cavendish, and the Green Jersey he
> > (Cavendish) got screwed out of?
>
> Jesus Christballs,
>
> You can turn even a thread about Hincapie into a
> thread about poor wittle wronged Cavendish.
>
> That makes you a bigger Cavendish fanboi
> than Mark Cavendish, and that's saying something.
>
> A sprint on the Champs without the big sprinters would be
> incomplete, but Cavendish is also just lucky he's still in the race.
So, you're predicting #20 on the Champs tomorrow? Me too!
Um, "lucky" he's still in the race? How's that?
BTW, the "screwed" part is true, and it's just a sidebar. Hincapie
gets picked on a lot because he's never won P-R; I was pointing out
that he's had at least two careers (working for GC and working for
stage wins and Green), which I do from time to time because I'm
something of a Hincapie fanboi, too.
You're in here posting about racing and you're not a fanboi yourself?
Who were you rooting for, again?
--D-y
== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 6:31 pm
From: atriage
On 24/07/2011 00:54, Fredmaster of Brainerd wrote:
> On Jul 23, 11:45 pm, --D-y<dustoyev...@mac.com> wrote:
>> On Jul 23, 1:46 pm, atriage<atri...@satriage.net> wrote:> Very impressive palmares or whathttp://www.cyclingnews.com/news/hincapie-part-of-nine-tour-de-france-...
>>> --
>>
>> Plus how many stage wins with Cavendish, and the Green Jersey he
>> (Cavendish) got screwed out of?
>
> Jesus Christballs,
>
> You can turn even a thread about Hincapie into a
> thread about poor wittle wronged Cavendish.
>
> That makes you a bigger Cavendish fanboi
> than Mark Cavendish, and that's saying something.
>
> A sprint on the Champs without the big sprinters would bea complete fucking > waste of time and space and visually as dull as a Cuddly
Evans interview.
Fixed your post for you, no need to thank me it's a free service.
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== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 6:38 pm
From: atriage
On 24/07/2011 02:31, atriage wrote:
> On 24/07/2011 00:54, Fredmaster of Brainerd wrote:
>> On Jul 23, 11:45 pm, --D-y<dustoyev...@mac.com> wrote:
>>> On Jul 23, 1:46 pm, atriage<atri...@satriage.net> wrote:> Very impressive
>>> palmares or
>>> whathttp://www.cyclingnews.com/news/hincapie-part-of-nine-tour-de-france-...
>>>> --
>>>
>>> Plus how many stage wins with Cavendish, and the Green Jersey he
>>> (Cavendish) got screwed out of?
>>
>> Jesus Christballs,
>>
>> You can turn even a thread about Hincapie into a
>> thread about poor wittle wronged Cavendish.
>>
>> That makes you a bigger Cavendish fanboi
>> than Mark Cavendish, and that's saying something.
>>
>> A sprint on the Champs without the big sprinters would bea complete fucking >
>> waste of time and space and visually as dull as a Cuddly
> Evans interview.
>
> Fixed your post for you, no need to thank me it's a free service.
>
The formatting needs some work but I'm sure you get the gist.
--
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TOPIC: Tour de France, stage 20 summary
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/fe3c1af000d74612?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 2:51 pm
From: Simply Fred
Bob Martin wrote:
> Top 10 and favourites GC standings (previous stage in parens) :
> 9 Thomas Danielson 8:15 (was 9th at 7:11)
Best young Amerikan prospect.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 3:39 pm
From: Scott
On Jul 23, 12:40 pm, atriage <atri...@satriage.net> wrote:
> On 23/07/2011 19:37, Bob Martin wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Top 10 and favourites GC standings (previous stage in parens) :
> > 1 Cadel Evans 83:45:20 (was 3rd at 0:57)
> > 2 Andy Schleck 1:34 (was 1st at 0:00)
> > 3 Frank Schleck 2:30 (was 2nd at 0:53)
> > 4 Thomas Voeckler 3:20 (was 4th at 2:10)
> > 5 Alberto Contador Velasco 3:57 (was 6th at 3:55)
> > 6 Samuel Sanchez Gonzalez 4:55 (was 7th at 4:22)
> > 7 Damiano Cunego 6:05 (was 5th at 3:31)
> > 8 Ivan Basso 7:23 (was 8th at 4:40)
> > 9 Thomas Danielson 8:15 (was 9th at 7:11)
> > 10 Jean-Christophe Peraud 10:11 (was 11th at 9:42)
> > .....
> > 32 Levi Leipheimer 1:03:58 (was 32nd at 59:24)
> > 33 Robert Gesink 1:05:09 (was 33rd at 1:02:12)
> > .....
> > 36 David Arroyo Duran 1:14:40 (was 35th at 1:09:30)
> > .....
> > 57 Luis Leon Sanchez Gil 1:46:09 (was 56th at 1:41:57)
> > .....
> > 67 Jens Voigt 1:59:56 (was 63rd at 1:52:23)
> > .....
> > 113 Roman Kreuziger 3:00:59 (was 112nd at 2:55:53)
>
> It's kind of hard to see how Roman's gonna make up 3 hours on the Champs tomorrow.
>
> --
He'll have to be super motivated.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 3:39 pm
From: Scott
On Jul 23, 3:51 pm, Simply Fred <n...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> Bob Martin wrote:
> > Top 10 and favourites GC standings (previous stage in parens) :
> > 9 Thomas Danielson 8:15 (was 9th at 7:11)
>
> Best young Amerikan prospect.
TD isn't young. There are quite a few young Americans who have far
more potential than TD at his advancing age. Tejay is one that comes
to mind.
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TOPIC: I hope Cadel Evans doesn't win
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/c2e175eb616977e1?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 2:54 pm
From: Anton Berlin
Here comes the waterworks....
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 3:12 pm
From: atriage
On 23/07/2011 22:54, Anton Berlin wrote:
> Here comes the waterworks....
Cuddly and Cav are gonna have a podium crying contest...get your barf-bags ready
now...however it's all part of the pageantry and that's what makes the TdF such
an utterly riveting event.
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== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 3:16 pm
From: roberthurst157@yahoo.com
On Jul 23, 4:12 pm, atriage <atri...@satriage.net> wrote:
> On 23/07/2011 22:54, Anton Berlin wrote:
>
> > Here comes the waterworks....
>
> Cuddly and Cav are gonna have a podium crying contest...get your barf-bags ready
> now...however it's all part of the pageantry and that's what makes the TdF such
> an utterly riveting event.
>
> --
Imagine if Voeckler had made the podium.
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 3:34 pm
From: Scott
On Jul 23, 4:16 pm, roberthurst...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Jul 23, 4:12 pm, atriage <atri...@satriage.net> wrote:
>
> > On 23/07/2011 22:54, Anton Berlin wrote:
>
> > > Here comes the waterworks....
>
> > Cuddly and Cav are gonna have a podium crying contest...get your barf-bags ready
> > now...however it's all part of the pageantry and that's what makes the TdF such
> > an utterly riveting event.
>
> > --
>
> Imagine if Voeckler had made the podium.
I'm thinking Voeckler and Rolland upped their market value for next
year's contract negotiations by huge leaps and bounds. After watching
Jerome Pineau ride in support of Voeckler on Friday, I don't know if
he'll command more money but I'd say he will have the love and respect
of every French cycling fan.
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TOPIC: Cuisine for RBR Regulars on final day of Tour de France
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/ae04618c4c093624?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 2:52 pm
From: Anton Berlin
Some recipes - Bon Appétit !
http://www.cooks.com/rec/search/0,1-0,crow,FF.html
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 3:26 pm
From: DirtRoadie
On Jul 23, 3:52 pm, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Some recipes - Bon Appétit !
>
> http://www.cooks.com/rec/search/0,1-0,crow,FF.html
I am a little surprised that there was so little discussion of TD, the
rider that RBR seems to love to hate. He turned in a very respectable
and consistent performance.
DR
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 3:47 pm
From: atriage
On 23/07/2011 23:26, DirtRoadie wrote:
> On Jul 23, 3:52 pm, Anton Berlin<truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Some recipes - Bon App�tit !
>>
>> http://www.cooks.com/rec/search/0,1-0,crow,FF.html
>
> I am a little surprised that there was so little discussion of TD, the
> rider that RBR seems to love to hate. He turned in a very respectable
> and consistent performance.
Yeah he's had a really good race, guaranteed 9nth place in what's been a pretty
tough Tour, of course he's disappointed those who were wishing for an American
win but that era is over. On a side note I hope the 'arms race' with the Giro is
over too otherwise the riders will be facing 21 days of cycling exclusively up
25% grades all day, one day (that'll solve the Cavendish problem no doubt).
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TOPIC: Jan Ullrich
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/a43dcf43e3df1d4f?hl=en
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 3:23 pm
From: atriage
On 23/07/2011 22:42, --D-y wrote:
> On Jul 23, 1:49 pm, atriage<atri...@satriage.net> wrote:
>> Sure you all remember Jan, CAS are getting around to hearing his
>> appeal...sometimes it's hard to say what the biggest joke in this sport is.
>> --
>
> If Alexi can come back...
>
...probably Jan could too if you told him he couldn't have any more micro-waved
Nutella until he started winning bike races again.
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== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 3:35 pm
From: Scott
On Jul 23, 3:42 pm, --D-y <dustoyev...@mac.com> wrote:
> On Jul 23, 1:49 pm, atriage <atri...@satriage.net> wrote:
>
> > Sure you all remember Jan, CAS are getting around to hearing his
> > appeal...sometimes it's hard to say what the biggest joke in this sport is.
> > --
>
> If Alexi can come back...
Yes, but can Alexi come back?
== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 3:58 pm
From: atriage
On 23/07/2011 23:35, Scott wrote:
> On Jul 23, 3:42 pm, --D-y<dustoyev...@mac.com> wrote:
>> On Jul 23, 1:49 pm, atriage<atri...@satriage.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Sure you all remember Jan, CAS are getting around to hearing his
>>> appeal...sometimes it's hard to say what the biggest joke in this sport is.
>>> --
>>
>> If Alexi can come back...
>
> Yes, but can Alexi come back?
I saw a result of his the other day, can't remember where or when, some race I'd
never heard of, he came in well down the field but he did finish and at the age
of 107 that's not bad.
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== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 4:10 pm
From: atriage
On 23/07/2011 22:42, --D-y wrote:
> On Jul 23, 1:49 pm, atriage<atri...@satriage.net> wrote:
>> Sure you all remember Jan, CAS are getting around to hearing his
>> appeal...sometimes it's hard to say what the biggest joke in this sport is.
>> --
>
> If Alexi can come back...
>
> But seriously, folks, this is all part of the process of making sure
> the offender is DEAD.
Yeah that's right, I've just heard the police are gonna bust Amy Winehouse
tomorrow...that's today's bad comment joke out of the way anyway :)
--
== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 4:12 pm
From: atriage
On 24/07/2011 00:10, atriage wrote:
> On 23/07/2011 22:42, --D-y wrote:
>> On Jul 23, 1:49 pm, atriage<atri...@satriage.net> wrote:
>>> Sure you all remember Jan, CAS are getting around to hearing his
>>> appeal...sometimes it's hard to say what the biggest joke in this sport is.
>>> --
>>
>> If Alexi can come back...
>>
>> But seriously, folks, this is all part of the process of making sure
>> the offender is DEAD.
>
> Yeah that's right, I've just heard the police are gonna bust Amy Winehouse
> tomorrow...that's today's bad comment joke out of the way anyway :)
Doh.........................bad taste comment.......
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== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 5:19 pm
From: --D-y
On Jul 23, 6:12 pm, atriage <atri...@satriage.net> wrote:
> On 24/07/2011 00:10, atriage wrote:
>
> > On 23/07/2011 22:42, --D-y wrote:
> >> On Jul 23, 1:49 pm, atriage<atri...@satriage.net> wrote:
> >>> Sure you all remember Jan, CAS are getting around to hearing his
> >>> appeal...sometimes it's hard to say what the biggest joke in this sport is.
> >>> --
>
> >> If Alexi can come back...
>
> >> But seriously, folks, this is all part of the process of making sure
> >> the offender is DEAD.
>
> > Yeah that's right, I've just heard the police are gonna bust Amy Winehouse
> > tomorrow...that's today's bad comment joke out of the way anyway :)
>
> Doh.........................bad taste comment.......
>
> --
She's gonna catch a lot of that, as part of the mess she made.
As a singer, first, and also as a songwriter, the tributes from people
who know what they are talking about are coming in.
'Nuff said on that score.
I was hoping she'd shake loose and put out that great album she had in
her, if she'd had the "help" to do it.
As another fated chanteuse famously noted: "God bless the child that's
got his own".
"Celebrate the work".
--D-y
== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 6:37 pm
From: atriage
On 24/07/2011 01:19, --D-y wrote:
> On Jul 23, 6:12 pm, atriage<atri...@satriage.net> wrote:
>> On 24/07/2011 00:10, atriage wrote:
>>
>>> On 23/07/2011 22:42, --D-y wrote:
>>>> On Jul 23, 1:49 pm, atriage<atri...@satriage.net> wrote:
>>>>> Sure you all remember Jan, CAS are getting around to hearing his
>>>>> appeal...sometimes it's hard to say what the biggest joke in this sport is.
>>>>> --
>>
>>>> If Alexi can come back...
>>
>>>> But seriously, folks, this is all part of the process of making sure
>>>> the offender is DEAD.
>>
>>> Yeah that's right, I've just heard the police are gonna bust Amy Winehouse
>>> tomorrow...that's today's bad comment joke out of the way anyway :)
>>
>> Doh.........................bad taste comment.......
>>
>> --
>
> She's gonna catch a lot of that, as part of the mess she made.
> As a singer, first, and also as a songwriter, the tributes from people
> who know what they are talking about are coming in.
> 'Nuff said on that score.
>
> I was hoping she'd shake loose and put out that great album she had in
> her, if she'd had the "help" to do it.
>
Yeah, another member of the [died at]27 club...it's got some pretty impressive
members. Better to burn out than to fade away they say but I think I'm gonna go
for the fade away option anyway.
--
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TOPIC: If your name is Schleck...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/e2cf8420a23a7787?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 3:37 pm
From: Scott
On Jul 23, 3:37 pm, thirty-six <thirty-...@live.co.uk> wrote:
> On Jul 23, 5:48 pm, Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 23, 9:48 am, atriage <atri...@satriage.net> wrote:
>
> > > On 23/07/2011 16:40, Adama wrote:
>
> > > > Le 23/07/2011 17:12, atriage a écrit :
> > > >> ...then today's racing didn't necessarily proceed in an advantageous
> > > >> manner.
>
> > > > Looks like "only one TT stage in the Tour" is still one too many for them ...
>
> > > Somebody needs to lock them in a wind tunnel with a bicycle for six months.
>
> > > --
>
> > Much of the time loss seemed to have come from Schleck's tentative
> > descending, whereas Evans was nailing it in the twistier parts of the
> > descent. You'd have thought he was riding a crit bike, not a TT bike.
>
> It didn't have the curly handlebar but the dropped position is still
> there. As long as a rider can get his weight forward he is able to
> control it well at speed. There really isn't a lot of difference once
> a rider lifts off the saddle and balances the bike into and out of a
> corner.
You do know the steering geometry, and therefore the handling, is
significantly different between a TT bike and regular road bike,
right?
Can you make a TT bike corner well? Sure, if you know what you're
doing. That was the whole frikkin' point of the post, dumbass... that
Evans knew what he was doing and Schleck did not.
Geez, pay attention.
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TOPIC: The kind of racing that makes my day.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/696cbca9c44d84ce?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 3:55 pm
From: atriage
On 22/07/2011 23:31, Frederick the Great wrote:
> Evans attacks near the top of the Col du Galibier,
> and Voeckler shoots out the back.
>
Just about everyone shot out of the back...hell, even the fucking back shot out
of the back.
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