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* Pinguecula and Cycling - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/148bb8240560aa24?hl=en
* Pitiful TV coverage of the USA "PRO" Cycling Challenge - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/af553971bb2ab7bc?hl=en
* USA Pro Cycling Challenge, stage 4 summary - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/c535f4805ded69cd?hl=en
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TOPIC: Pinguecula and Cycling
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/148bb8240560aa24?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 26 2011 6:22 pm
From: Sean Melcher
Hey all,
Just the other day my eye doctor diagnosed me with Pinguecula, a non-
cancerous growth on the white part of the eyeball due to wind/UV
exposure. I'd imagine that my past 7 years of road racing/riding has
contributed to the condition, and I was wondering if anyone else has
experienced this or knows anyone who has. Any advice on sunglasses,
treatment, methods, doctors, or otherwise would be greatly
appreciated.
Sean
Basking Ridge, NJ
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 26 2011 7:52 pm
From: Zenon
On Aug 26, 6:22 pm, Sean Melcher <sem5...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> Just the other day my eye doctor diagnosed me with Pinguecula, a non-
> cancerous growth on the white part of the eyeball due to wind/UV
> exposure. I'd imagine that my past 7 years of road racing/riding has
> contributed to the condition, and I was wondering if anyone else has
> experienced this or knows anyone who has. Any advice on sunglasses,
> treatment, methods, doctors, or otherwise would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Sean
>
> Basking Ridge, NJ
Dude,
At least you didn't have a pteryguim! Get some sunglasses with side
shields and ask your doctor about using artificial tear eye drops to
keep your eyes moist.
All the best,
Zenon
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 26 2011 9:08 pm
From: Brad Anders
Pretty anyone here in AZ who does outside sports develops this
condition to various degrees. Sub-5% humidity and 110+ temps will do
that to you. I have it, but it's not bad. Sunglasses help slow the
development, but if the exposure is enough, you get it eventually. If
yours isn't irritating you, or preventing you from wearing contacts,
then you can slow the progression by using good sunglasses that block
not only UV, but as much wind as possible. If yours is worse, then you
need to discuss treatment options with an ophthalmologist (an M.D) -
not an optometrist, or an optician. There are tons of web references
on Google that discuss this condition and various forms of treatment
for advanced cases.
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TOPIC: Pitiful TV coverage of the USA "PRO" Cycling Challenge
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/af553971bb2ab7bc?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 26 2011 10:08 pm
From: --D-y
On Aug 26, 8:02 pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Aug 25, 11:24 am, --D-y <dustoyev...@mac.com> wrote:
>
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> > I kept waiting for Phil to exclaim "I can't work under these
> > conditions!!!" and leave.
>
> > Which would serve this race organization right.
> > Not only "technical difficulties" (actually, "near-total inability")
> > to broadcast footage of the racing, but inept motorcycle drivers who
> > didn't follow the action.
>
> > If this had been the TdF, we could have seen the descent from
> > Independence Pass into Aspen. I rode that one "several" times during
> > the early 70's; I haven't seen it in recent years but I understand the
> > road is not vastly improved IRT width, guardrails, etc. Especially for
> > a large group, that's a fairly technical descent, and it was raining
> > (BTDT on that road, too, since it rains often in the afternoon-early
> > evening).
>
> > There were some gaps opened up, certainly.
>
> > Maybe we'll get to see some replay today? Since the replay during the
> > show seemed to work, maybe they should have just shown the whole stage
> > on replay?
>
> > "Ice on the wings"? Didn't they run even one test on the TV equipment
> > before the race started? Or at least fix it overnight, after Day 1 was
> > totally screwed?
>
> > What an embarrassment to my country. For shame!
> > --D-y
>
> I'm watching on Radioshack's Shack Tracker and finding the picture
> breakup not so annoying since the feed has no commercials. Versus
> drove me nuts with the commercials and their stupid lead-in graphics.
> Versus spent more money and time showing their graphics then showing
> the race.
I didn't see any breakup during commercials on Versus <g>.
What a contrast to Euro coverage, seen on "live TV" during a visit.
Hours and hours of "showing the racing".
SOS for American producers who don't "understand" racing and/or don't
think their viewers understand or would be happy to watch.
Graphics? We don't need no steenking graphics! Except maybe some
"scorecard" presentations to show GC and so forth. That's something
else they don't understand.
Of course, having pro moto drivers/cameramen and pro production would
help. This has been going on for years and years in the good ol' USA.
The actual event is like an allergy or something.
Is it a Spandex problem, after all?
--D-y
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TOPIC: USA Pro Cycling Challenge, stage 4 summary
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/t/c535f4805ded69cd?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 26 2011 10:56 pm
From: Bob Martin
Stage 4 : Aug 26, Avon - Steamboat Springs, 138.4 km
1 Elia Viviani (Ita) Liquigas-Cannondale 2.58.14
2 Michael Morkov (Den) Saxo Bank Sungard
3 Kenny Robert Van Hummel (Ned) Skil - Shimano
4 Robert Forster (Ger) UnitedHealthcare Pro Cycling
5 Dennis Van Winden (Ned) Rabobank Cycling Team
6 Jaime Alberto Castaneda Ortega (Col) EPM - UNE
7 Daniel Summerhill (USA) Team Garmin-Cervelo
8 Alexander Efimkin (Rus) Team Type 1 - Sanofi
9 George Hincapie (USA) BMC Racing Team
10 Fred Rodriguez (USA) Team Exergy
Changes in GC, stage 4 compared to stage 3 :
Biggest gainers by position :
+4 Michael Morkov
+4 Javier Megias Leal
+4 Edward King
+4 Daniel Navarro Garcia
+4 Daniel Lloyd
+4 Carlos Eduardo Alzate Escobar
+3 Thomas Peterson
+3 Peter Velits
+3 Paul Mach
+3 Oscar Alvarez
Biggest losers by position :
-7 Ivan Basso
-6 Thimothy Roe
-5 George Bennett
-4 Sebastien Salas
-3 Brian Vandborg
-3 David Boily
-3 Scott Zwizanski
-2 Christopher Jones
-2 Cristhian Montoya Giraldo
-2 Francois Parisien
-2 Thierry Hupond
Biggest gainers by time :
+0:10 Elia Viviani
+0:06 Michael Morkov
+0:04 Kenny Robert Van Hummel
+0:03 Stefan Denifl
+0:02 Janier Alexis Acevedo Colle
+0:01 Rubens Bertogliati
Biggest losers by time :
-2:28 Sam Johnson
-1:31 Sander Oostlander
-1:31 Scott Zwizanski
-1:03 Ben Hermans
-1:03 Brian Vandborg
-1:03 Craig Lewis
-1:03 Cristhian Montoya Giraldo
-1:03 David Boily
-1:03 David Zabriskie
-1:03 Francois Parisien
-1:03 George Bennett
Favourites by position :
+3 Peter Velits
+2 Sylvester Szmyd
+2 Laurens Ten Dam
+1 Jens Voigt
-7 Ivan Basso
Favourites by time :
-1:03 Ivan Basso
-1:03 David Zabriskie
Top 10 and favourites GC standings (previous stage in parens) :
1 Levi Leipheimer 13:28:43 (unchanged)
2 Christian Vande Velde 0:11 (unchanged)
3 Tejay Van Garderen 0:17 (unchanged)
4 Thomas Danielson 0:21 (unchanged)
5 George Hincapie 0:53 (unchanged)
6 Rafael Infantino Abreu 1:14 (unchanged)
7 Cadel Evans 1:18 (unchanged)
8 Stef Clement 1:42 (unchanged)
9 Bruno Pires 1:49 (unchanged)
10 Rory Sutherland 1:50 (unchanged)
.....
13 Frank Schleck 2:17 (unchanged)
.....
17 Robert Gesink 2:46 (unchanged)
.....
28 Ryder Hesjedal 5:08 (unchanged)
.....
34 Jens Voigt 6:17 (was 35th at 6:17)
.....
36 Ivan Basso 6:28 (was 29th at 5:25)
.....
39 Andy Schleck 6:59 (unchanged)
.....
42 Pieter Weening 7:36 (unchanged)
.....
54 Peter Velits 10:07 (was 57th at 10:07)
.....
70 Sylvester Szmyd 14:22 (was 72nd at 14:22)
71 David Zabriskie 14:56 (was 71st at 13:53)
.....
78 Laurens Ten Dam 17:09 (was 80th at 17:09)
Top 10 on Points table with previous in parens:
1 Elia Viviani 23 (was 9th with 8 points)
2 Levi Leipheimer 17 (was 1st with 17 points)
3 George Hincapie 17 (was 3rd with 15 points)
4 Tejay Van Garderen 17 (was 2nd with 17 points)
5 Janier Alexis Acevedo Colle 13 (was 8th with 10 points)
6 Sergio Luis Henao Montoya 12 (was 4th with 12 points)
7 Michael Morkov 12 (was 0 points)
8 Robert Forster 12 (was 16th with 5 points)
9 Thomas Danielson 11 (was 5th with 11 points)
10 Cadel Evans 11 (was 6th with 11 points)
Top 10 on Mountains table with previous in parens:
1 Walter Pedraza 24 (unchanged)
2 Sander Oostlander 15 (unchanged)
3 Rafael Montiel 14 (unchanged)
4 Rafael Infantino Abreu 12 (unchanged)
5 Eduard Alexander Beltran Suarez 11 (unchanged)
6 Levi Leipheimer 10 (unchanged)
7 Alejandro Ramirez Calderon 10 (unchanged)
8 Andre Steensen 9 (unchanged)
9 Bradley White 9 (unchanged)
10 Christian Vande Velde 8 (unchanged)
Retirements to date : Stage
Bruno Langlois (Can) Team Spidertech Powered By C10 4 <<<
Jonathan Patrick McCarty (USA) Team Spidertech Powered By C10 4 <<<
Giovany Manuel Baez Alvarez (Col) EPM - UNE 3
Andrew Randell (Can) Team Spidertech Powered By C10 2
Daniele Callegarin (Ita) Team Type 1 - Sanofi 2
Dmitriy Muravyev (Kaz) Team RadioShack 2
Ken Hanson (USA) Jelly Belly p/b Kenda 2
Sergio Hernandez (USA) Jelly Belly p/b Kenda 2
Chris Barton (USA) BMC Racing Team 1
Total retirements : 9
(This report can also be seen at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rvmartin2)
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