Tuesday, September 20, 2011

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" Mayer, W. et al., Annalen, 1967, 707, 182-189"
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1.       Tannins and related compounds. Part 3. A new phenolic acid, sanguisorbic acid dilactone, and three new ellagitannins, sanguiins H-1, H-2, and H-3, from Sanguisorba officinalis.

Gen-ichiro Nonaka, Takashi Tanaka and Itsuo Nishioka

J. Chem. Soc., Perkin Trans. 1, 1982, 1067-1073

 

2.        Mayer, W. et al., Annalen, 1967, 707, 182-189

 


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[socialactionfoundationforequity:14309 ICYO-Youth Informaton

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In this issue:-

      Ajay Maken reached China with 500 Member Youth Delegation

    15th National Integration Council (NIC) Meeting held

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ICYO- Youth Information                                      

(E-Newsletter from network of youth organizations in India)
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ICYO - Platform of 411 Youth Organizations in India. 
ICYO - India's largest network of urban and rural youth.

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Ajay Maken reached China with 500 Member Youth Delegation

                                                                    

An Indian Youth delegation led by Shri Ajay Maken Minister of State (I/C) of Youth Affairs & Sports is left for China on 18th September 2011 under Indo- China Youth Exchange Programme. The Chinese Government has the designated year 2011 as the year of India China Youth Exchange and it is the 6th Indian delegation visiting China under the programme. The Premier of China has invited a 500 member Youth Delegation to China while, he was in New Delhi in December, 2010. The Indian Youth delegation consisting of 500 members will visit Beijing, Guangzhou and Shanghai during their ten day stay in China from 20th to 29th September 2011.

 

This year delegation comprises of young leaders from political parties, youth from academics, Panchyati Raj Institutions, folk and culture artists, media, Chinese studies, volunteers of National Youth Corps and National Services Scheme. Efforts have been made to ensure that the composition of the delegation is gender balanced and all the regions are represented.

 

The exchange programme involves interaction with local youth, visits to tourist and cultural sites and introduction to economic and social activities. In addition, it also has elements of educations value with interaction and exchanges with students and faculty member meetings with economic and political personages and interactive session`s in different areas such as culture and sports. It also includes visits to rural areas.

 

 

15th National Integration Council (NIC) Meeting held

 

The 15th meeting of the National Integration Council held in New Delhi on 10th September 2011. Addressing the Council, the Prime Minister Dr. Manmohan Singh said that the Centre and State Governments have to work together to confront the challenges to our internal security and we will strive hard for greater coordination not only between the Centre and the States but also within States.

 

Addressing the Council, the Prime Minister Dr. Manmohan Singh said that the problems of terrorism and Left Wing Extremism constitute two major challenges that our society and polity face today.

 

Youth in agenda:

 

Dr Manmohan Singh mentioned youth in both his opening speech and his closing address. He said in opening speech that "We need to identify and address the causes of radicalization of some of our youth. Very clearly, lack of productive employment opportunities for our young men and women is one factor which aids such radicalization. Education and skill development opportunities have a major role to play in addressing this problem."

 

"The launch of the Rashtriya Madhyamik Shiksha Abhiyan will enable us to build on the gains made in elementary education. We have made efforts at providing more opportunities with greater inclusion in higher education. We hope, these measures will help our youth harness the opportunities that a growing economy like India provides. Whether we are able to reap the benefits of our large population of young people would depend critically on the kind of skills we are able to impart to them. Our Skill Development Initiative is aimed at equipping our youth with the right kind of skills. Several measures in this regard, ranging from more institutional training and vocational education in schools to reforming the apprenticeship law and leveraging opportunities for non-institutional training are at various stages of approval and consideration.'

 

His closing remark Dr Singh noted the various speaker remark on Youth, he acknowledge there concern and said "Several speakers have referred to the need for engaging the energy and initiative of our youth for constructive purposes. I agree with the suggestions made by many esteemed members that opportunities for our youth to acquire skills, engage in nation-building and social work, and interact more actively in sports, cultural and other character-building pursuits need to be enhanced and encouraged. The creation of new opportunities for productive employment for our growing labour force was emphasized by many speakers, and this will be a major theme of the 12th five year plan. In this context, provision of education and health care facilities on an adequate scale assume great importance. I would urge my Ministerial colleagues and Chief Ministers to give careful consideration to this aspect of our discussion as well."

 

In his opening remarks, Union Home Minister Shri P. Chidambaram said that the biggest challenge is the use of violence as an instrument of protest or an instrument of change. Home Minister also shows its concern on radicalisation of youth in the name of religion and caste emboldens them to take to the path of violence.

 

Dr S. N. Subbarao, Recipient of National Communal Harmony Award (also Director of NYP and Chairman of ICYO) is the member of National Integration Council NIC) and attended the meeting.

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To improve and extend the youth work and services through Youth Organizations;
To enhance and demonstrate youth work in the society;
To promote effective youth programmme;
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To organize seminars, conferences, workshops, trainings;
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Consultative Status with Commission on Sustainable Development;
Full Member of World Assembly of Youth (WAY); Asian Youth Council (AYC);
Member of CRIN;
Member of South Asia Youth Environment Network (SAYEN);
Affiliate with ECPAT International, Thailand;
Member of ATSECE-DELHI;
Indian Partner of AIDS Care Watch Campaign;
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Working relation with International Medical Parliamentarians Organizations (IMPO);
Working relation with Asian Forum of Parliamentarians on Population and Development (AFPPD).

Medarticles Pending Request.

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Dear Friends,

Need full text article for the below mentioned titles ASAP.
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2.) Chithra P, Sajithlal GB, Chandrakasan G. Influence of Aloe vera on
collagen turnover in healing of dermal wounds in rats. Indian J Exp
Biol. 1998 Sep;36(9):896-901.

http://www.mendeley.com/research/influence-aloe-vera-collagen-turnove...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=Retrieve&list_...
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3.) CHOPRA IC, GUPTA KC, NAZIR BN. Preliminary study of anti-bacterial
substances from Melia azidirachta. Indian J Med Res. 1952 Oct;40(4):
511-5.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=Preliminary%20study%20of%20an...
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6.) Baswa M, Rath CC, Dash SK, Mishra RK. Antibacterial activity of
Karanj (Pongamia pinnata) and Neem (Azadirachta indica) seed oil: a
preliminary report. Microbios. 2001;105(412):183-9.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11414503
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7.) Ozaki Y. Anti-inflammatory effect of glycyrrhizin topically
applied to the cotton pellet by granuloma porch method in rats. Nat
med. Vol.56; no.6; pp. 261-263(2002).

http://sciencelinks.jp/j-east/article/200305/000020030503A0074146.php
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8.) Okpanyi SN, Ezeukwu GC. Anti-inflammatory and antipyretic
activities of Azadirachta indica. Planta Med. 1981 Jan;41(1):34-9.

https://www.thieme-connect.com/ejournals/abstract/plantamedica/doi/10...

DOI: 10.1055/s-2007-971670
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9.) Tian B, Hua YJ, Ma XQ, Wang GL. [Relationship between
antibacterial activity of aloe and its anthaquinone compounds].
Zhongguo Zhong Yao Za Zhi. 2003 Nov;28(11):1034-7.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15615409
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Transformation of Agrobacterium Using Elechtroporation

This protocol was adapted from "How to Transform Arabidopsis," Chapter 5, in Arabidopsis by Detlef Weigel and Jane Glazebrook. Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory Press, Cold Spring Harbor, NY, USA, 2002.
 
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Article 3


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1. Holtmann B, Wray RC. A randomized comparison of triangular and
rotation-advancement unilateral cleft lip repair. Plast Reconstr Surg
1983; 71(2): 172-179.
2.Shaw GM, Carmichael SL, Laurent C, et al. Maternal nutrient intakes
and risk of orofacial clefts. Epidemiology. 2006; 17:285-291.
3.Annegers JF, Hauser WA, Elveback LR, et al. Congenital malformations
and seizure disorders in the offspring of parents with epilepsy. Int J
Epidemiol. 1978; 7:241-247.
4. Honein MA, Rasmussen SA, Reefhuis J, et al. Maternal smoking and
environmental tobacco smoke exposure and the risk of orofacial clefts.
Epidemiology. 2007; 18:226-233.
5. Shaw, GM., Lammer EJ. "Maternal periconceptional alcohol
consumption and risk for oro facial clefts. The journal of pediatrics
1999; 134(3), 293-303.
6. Melnick M, Bixer D, Fogh-Andersen P,Conneally PM: Cleft lip with or
with out palate: an overview of the literature and an analysis of
Danish cases born between 1941 and 1968.Am J Med Genet 1980;6:83-97
7. Curits E, Fraser FC, Warburton D: Congenital cleft lip and palate:
risk figures for counselling. AM J Dis Child 1961; 102:853-857

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Transformation of Agrobacterium Using Elechtroporation

This protocol was adapted from "How to Transform Arabidopsis," Chapter 5, in Arabidopsis by Detlef Weigel and Jane Glazebrook. Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory Press, Cold Spring Harbor, NY, USA, 2002.
 
PRATIPAL SINGH
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2011/9/20 koushik reddy <dr.p.k.reddy@gmail.com>
1. Holtmann B, Wray RC. A randomized comparison of triangular and
rotation-advancement unilateral cleft lip repair. Plast Reconstr Surg
1983; 71(2): 172-179.
2.Shaw GM, Carmichael SL, Laurent C, et al. Maternal nutrient intakes
and risk of orofacial clefts. Epidemiology. 2006; 17:285-291.
3.Annegers JF, Hauser WA, Elveback LR, et al. Congenital malformations
and seizure disorders in the offspring of parents with epilepsy. Int J
Epidemiol. 1978; 7:241-247.
4. Honein MA, Rasmussen SA, Reefhuis J, et al. Maternal smoking and
environmental tobacco smoke exposure and the risk of orofacial clefts.
Epidemiology. 2007; 18:226-233.
5. Shaw, GM., Lammer EJ. "Maternal periconceptional alcohol
consumption and risk for oro facial clefts. The journal of pediatrics
1999; 134(3), 293-303.
6. Melnick M, Bixer D, Fogh-Andersen P,Conneally PM: Cleft lip with or
with out palate: an overview of the literature and an analysis of
Danish cases born between 1941 and 1968.Am J Med Genet 1980;6:83-97
7. Curits E, Fraser FC, Warburton D: Congenital cleft lip and palate:
risk figures for counselling. AM J Dis Child 1961; 102:853-857

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2011/9/20 koushik reddy <dr.p.k.reddy@gmail.com>
1. Holtmann B, Wray RC. A randomized comparison of triangular and
rotation-advancement unilateral cleft lip repair. Plast Reconstr Surg
1983; 71(2): 172-179.
2.Shaw GM, Carmichael SL, Laurent C, et al. Maternal nutrient intakes
and risk of orofacial clefts. Epidemiology. 2006; 17:285-291.
3.Annegers JF, Hauser WA, Elveback LR, et al. Congenital malformations
and seizure disorders in the offspring of parents with epilepsy. Int J
Epidemiol. 1978; 7:241-247.
4. Honein MA, Rasmussen SA, Reefhuis J, et al. Maternal smoking and
environmental tobacco smoke exposure and the risk of orofacial clefts.
Epidemiology. 2007; 18:226-233.
5. Shaw, GM., Lammer EJ. "Maternal periconceptional alcohol
consumption and risk for oro facial clefts. The journal of pediatrics
1999; 134(3), 293-303.
6. Melnick M, Bixer D, Fogh-Andersen P,Conneally PM: Cleft lip with or
with out palate: an overview of the literature and an analysis of
Danish cases born between 1941 and 1968.Am J Med Genet 1980;6:83-97
7. Curits E, Fraser FC, Warburton D: Congenital cleft lip and palate:
risk figures for counselling. AM J Dis Child 1961; 102:853-857

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http://www.nature.com/nchem/journal/v3/n8/full/nchem.1089.html

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2011/9/20 Chhaya <chayarani.ict@gmail.com>
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can anyone send me this article??

journal: nature chemistry 3, 609-614 (2011)
doi: 10.1038/nchem.1089
authors: Ekambaram Balaraman, Chidambaram Gunanathan, Jing Zhang,
Linda J.W.Simon & David Milstein
title: Efficient hydrogenation of organic carbonates, carbamate
alternative routes to methanol based on CO2 and CO

link: http://www.nature.com/nchem/journal/v3/n8/full/nchem.1089.html

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:14307 Karnataka Lokayukta Shivraj Patil resigns

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Karnataka Lokayukta Shivraj Patil resigns
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He resigned after a controversy erupted over allotment of housing
sites for him and his wife allegedly in violation of rules
Submitted on 09/20/2011

New Delhi: Barely two months after he was appointed Lokayukta of
Karnataka, Justice Shivraj Patil on Monday resigned after a
controversy erupted over allotment of housing sites for him and his
wife allegedly in violation of rules.

71-year-old Patil, a former Supreme Court Judge who was made
Karnataka's ombudsman on August 3 succeeding Santosh Hegde, called on
Governor H R Bhardwaj and submitted the papers on Monday.

Stung by the allegations against him, a visibly upset Patil announced
his resignation at a news conference after describing the campaign
against him as "malicious".
Patil, whose office is required to investigate land scams some of
which involve high-profile politicians, himself faced allegations that
he and his wife own three plots of land in Bangalore in violation of
city bylaws.

Patil faced allegations of violating rules by securing the allotment
of a 9,600 sq ft site at the Judicial Employees Layout in 1994 and his
wife a 4,200 sq ft site at Nagavara from the Vyalikaval Housing
Cooperative Society.

Under the norms, the plot allotments violate Sec 10 (a) of the model
by-law framed for House Building Cooperative Societies which bars any
member or his family who has been allotted a site by a society from
getting another in the name of other family members.

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:14307 Jammers in Jharkhand jails to be upgraded

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Existing jammers installed in different jails were unable to arrest
the signals of mobile phones operating on 3-G network
Submitted on 09/20/2011

By Chandrabindu
Ranchi: Third Generation (3-G) mobiles are proving to be a bane for
jail security in the State. Inquiries conducted in the wake of past
jailbreaks yielded that feature-rich 3-G mobile network might stand in
good stead for jail inmates to plan their escape.
Concerned at the possibility of criminals controlling operation for
their gang men from jails through 3-G mobiles, Inspector General
(Prisons) Vijay Kumar Singh has sought the government's nod for urgent
upgrade of the existing telecom system to block signals of high-end
cellular devices, which operate on wide range of frequency.
In a letter to the State Home Secretary, Singh pointed out that
existing jammers installed in different jails were unable to arrest
the signals of mobile phones operating on 3-G network (2100 MHz-2400
MHz frequency).
However, they are capable of clogging signals of 2-G cell phones which
function on 2-G network (900 MHz and 1800 MHz frequency) and CDMA
(code division multiple access) mobiles working on frequency range of
800MHz to 1800MHz.
Sources in the Home Department said that some senior technical
officials of Telecommunications Consultants India Ltd (TCIL), a
government of India enterprise, recently carried out operational
survey of Birsa Munda Hotwar jail premises to study the provision for
technological upgrade of the existing jammer last month.
They are expected to submit the detailed project report and cost
involved in the process soon.
Technical limitations in restricting operation of mobile phones came
to light in course of investigation for Seraikella jailbreak on August
17, in which as many as six under-trials including two hardcore
Maoists, escaped from the prison.
In January also, three zonal committee members of the CPI (Maoists)
are said to have successfully executed their escape plan from Chaibasa
jail with the help of 3-G enabled mobile sets.
IG (Prisons) said that the TCIL might be offered the task of upgrading
strength of jammers installed at all 18 jails across the State after
assessing the detailed project report and the cost involved in the
process by the Home Department.

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Today's topics:

* Why Wasn't Mangold Immediately Receiving Treatment? - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/237b77ec485c1c36?hl=en
* Blah, blah, blah... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/32febad120f7dd42?hl=en
* I really hate this offense... - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/e85f65bbb211f58b?hl=en
* Re-Vamp The O-line - 4 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/4d3a0c340598656d?hl=en
* Cromartie - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/5fe2b6fe20140ff1?hl=en
* Colin Baxter - 4 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/9720352c9c4b510c?hl=en
* Jets have an important advantage over Raiders... - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/958632925e933244?hl=en
* Bullshit call - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/077f35d7f3ca3aa1?hl=en
* Bills-Fitz - 5 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/9b54ecca7ac300b1?hl=en

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TOPIC: Why Wasn't Mangold Immediately Receiving Treatment?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/237b77ec485c1c36?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 19 2011 10:14 pm
From: Harlan Lachman


In article <pbidnR6AAeAKJ-rTnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Papa Carl" <papa.carl@verizon.net> wrote:

> "JetsLife" <JetsLife@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:19bd4226-64cf-4d3c-843b-89efe9605d59@z18g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> >I know little about treating injuries ... but they shouldn't the Jets
> > have started R.I.C.E. or whatever immediately after the injury? Why
> > was Mangold standing on the sideline instead of receiving treatment in
> > the trainer's room?
> >
> > Doesn't controlling inflammation immediately speed up the process of
> > healing?
> >
> > Does anyone have any insights on this?
>
> The inflamation comes later...a few hours afterwards...then you put the ice
> and such...they know what they are doing. The Jets docs and ortho guys are
> the best there is in the game.

Actually, if one waits for the swelling, it is too late. Ice should be
applied immediately to keep the swelling as low as possible. As much as
the injured location can tolerate. Also, till good to have the injured
leg (or arm) elevated.

When it was clear that Mangold was injured more than a little, he should
have been iced and the ankle/back of the leg, elevated.

harlan


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 20 2011 2:52 am
From: "Papa Carl"

"Harlan Lachman" <harlan@eeivt.com> wrote in message
news:harlan-64B7AA.01145220092011@news60.forteinc.com...
> In article <pbidnR6AAeAKJ-rTnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> "Papa Carl" <papa.carl@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> "JetsLife" <JetsLife@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:19bd4226-64cf-4d3c-843b-89efe9605d59@z18g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>> >I know little about treating injuries ... but they shouldn't the Jets
>> > have started R.I.C.E. or whatever immediately after the injury? Why
>> > was Mangold standing on the sideline instead of receiving treatment in
>> > the trainer's room?
>> >
>> > Doesn't controlling inflammation immediately speed up the process of
>> > healing?
>> >
>> > Does anyone have any insights on this?
>>
>> The inflamation comes later...a few hours afterwards...then you put the
>> ice
>> and such...they know what they are doing. The Jets docs and ortho guys
>> are
>> the best there is in the game.
>
> Actually, if one waits for the swelling, it is too late. Ice should be
> applied immediately to keep the swelling as low as possible. As much as
> the injured location can tolerate. Also, till good to have the injured
> leg (or arm) elevated.
>
> When it was clear that Mangold was injured more than a little, he should
> have been iced and the ankle/back of the leg, elevated.
>
> harlan

And I believe that was the case....he kept getting back up on his own I
think. High Sprains are tough though...often they do not swell, don't look
bad and don't hurt till you try and do something other than minimal standing
or walking. But...they can take forever to heal and cause a long, long term
problem that is nagging rather than chronic. At least that was my
experience...especially when my son had one playing in college. He didn't
even start to hurt much till much later at night. He came out of the game,
got back in for a while and then out again. It happened near the end of the
game, he ran into problems later that night when he'd been down for a while
and got back up. That was my personal experience too...but it's so long ago
I really don't remember :-) And...the coach probably told me to walk it off
and get tough.

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TOPIC: Blah, blah, blah...
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/32febad120f7dd42?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 20 2011 5:39 am
From: MZ


On Sep 19, 4:16 pm, JetsLife <JetsL...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Sep 13, 6:40 pm, Señor Patriots <paul.lebl...@bluebottle.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 13, 12:24 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:> Every season, it's the same ol' thing...
> > > The Pats are the greatest team, in the history of all sports... blah, blah, blah.
> > > Belichick, Brady... blah, blah, blah.
> > > The system... blah, blah, blah.
>
> > > Obviously, Brady's great, & they have a great O design, but the rest, outside of a few
> > > great players... blah, blah, blah.
>
> > > What has it been, 4 or 5 years since they won anything, yet... blah, blah, blah.
>
> > > I just laugh at it.
>
> > > Real greatness has become so diluted, in this "Pundit" focused Media-age.
>
> > It would be revealing to know how you define greatness.  Apparently
> > the most regular season wins, most playoff wins, most SB trophies and
> > most NFL records for a QB/Coach tandem surviving a ten year period
> > doesn't impress you.  So what does impress you?  Are you watching the
> > same sport I'm watching?
>
> > If you're arguing that you're sick in the belly of the media attention
> > then I can agree with that sentiment.  I agree 100%.  It's an
> > embarrassment to humanity. I think the attention is way overblown for
> > all of these guys and teams.  It's not real life.  It's a game.
>
> > In the context of a game, though, and in discussing facts and numbers
> > and records, I don't see another team in the league that compares for
> > the last decade (which would be the most relevant decade, I would
> > assume).  I would also put the Colts and Steelers in the greatness
> > category over that time, but they did not win three and have the best
> > overall record and set all those NFL records.  So, I have to say that
> > if there is a Gold Standard in the NFL, you be looking at it up in
> > Foxboro.
>
> Much of which achieved while likely cheating in a major way. James
> Harrison and others have also said as much.
>
> One cannot definitively say the Pats had great success pre-SpyGate
> without the aid of cheating. Sorry, that's just reality. Post SpyGate
> the Pats have always flamed out in the postseason. Coincidence or not?

So they only cheated during the postseason?

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TOPIC: I really hate this offense...
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/e85f65bbb211f58b?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 20 2011 6:00 am
From: John C TX


On Sep 19, 7:15 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "John C TX" <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:4159f95e-fd30-4c5a-8066-a4357d045a01@s3g2000vbx.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 19, 4:44 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "John C TX" <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote in
> > messagenews:dc43392b-e794-4709-aa2b-de9ac6696aa7@g30g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> > On Sep 18, 6:51 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > "Tutor" <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:21d4dc56-a764-466d-bb39-6c823e7e0f90@s20g2000yql.googlegroups.com...
> > > On Sep 18, 2:23 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>
> > > > It's so frustrating... there's no point to it.
> > > > It's just like whatever play he wants to run, he runs, no matter the
> > > > situation.
>
> > > > Shonn Greene runs for 10 yards on 1st down, so next play he has LT
> > > > run,
> > > > for a 3-yd loss.
>
> > > > Funny about Sanchez... he's thrown 2 bad INTs, but he looks so much
> > > > more
> > > > mature out there,
> > > > & in-control of things. Hunter's really having trouble. And Sanchez
> > > > just
> > > > aint getting
> > > > much time to throw. Of course, Mangold's injury doesn't help.
> > > > They really have to do more play-action... and more rushing Shonn.
>
> > > agreed. But the first drive was outstanding. Now, that said, let'd
> > > enjoy this win and enjoy what looks to be a real nice season ahead.
> > > Would hate this forum to become *exclusively* a bitching and moaning
> > > horror show again. TOday was a convincing and dominating win. Far
> > > short of perfection which will NEVER happen.
>
> > > There were some very nice moments. And...I think Sanchez looked really
> > > good
> > > when he was getting it done...better than the past.
>
> > Papa, if he would just relax. He is more dangerous when he has a
> > little success. The first pick he had 2-3 guys that would have gotten
> > him the first down.
>
> > He & the OL buried themselves but if he would have taken a deep breath
> > twice we are up by 10-14 more at half time. The center struggled (3rd
> > string so no surprise) and that contributed but to blame play calling
> > on this makes little sense. The problems in this order were:
>
> > 1. Injury to Mangold
> > 2. Hunter...could switch one and two
> > 3. The OC
> > 4. Sanchez who is taught and controlled by the OC
>
> > Look at the plays & maybe changing it here & there may have helped but
> > unforced int's when you have options that are open is not a tactical
> > issue it is a young dopey QB trying to be the man.
>
> >http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/boxscore?gid=20110918020&page=plays
>
> > Fixed it....see above. Yes...as I have said many times...Sanchez is weak
> > at
> > times, many times and has flaws...but the only OC he has ever had is an
> > idiot. He does not have the comfort of developing behind an O line that
> > protects, or a program with continuity and he got thrown into the mix too
> > early...I don't see how much more can be expected of him...he is not Cam
> > Newton.
>
> We disagree I am shocked.
>
> :)
>
> If he doesn't throw those two picks we are up big & he is on the bench
> resting for the 4 Q. Maybe it is Schott but he was not under pressure
> for the int's. I can partially agree as Mangold could be a bigger
> deal.
>
> The one thing I did notice was this.  If we started with 1st & 10 &
> had no penalties every drive but one lead (int) to points. I know it
> is tough to do but he has issues with 20+ yards for 1st downs.
> ________________________________________________________________
>
> Look, I agree...but I don't think he is that good to start out with...and
> the only "teacher" he has had at this level is someone I find to be very
> flawed.  I do not compare him to the "greats" not a Brady, Manning or any
> past great...compare him to the other young QB's who are doing really
> well...yes, they make big mistakes too..but their upside tends to be much
> brighter and when I look at why that is I often come to the only conclusion
> I can...the type of offense he is playing in causes problems for any
> QB...including guys like Favre.  But...do I think Sanchez was the best
> choice they could have made...Hell no.

One game isn't a trend but if they an keep the penalty count low on
offense that would appear to help the QB & or the OC if your hunch is
correct.

The Mangold stuff is a worry. I watched Ryan's press conference from
11:30 -12:00 & wasn't sure if that was post game (probably not as it
was 30 minutes long) & he was talking about the young center.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 20 2011 12:52 pm
From: "Papa Carl"

"John C TX" <johnctxjets@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:199ef07b-893a-4e81-9d87-adf2ec085383@c22g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 19, 7:15 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "John C TX" <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote in
> messagenews:4159f95e-fd30-4c5a-8066-a4357d045a01@s3g2000vbx.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 19, 4:44 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "John C TX" <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote in
> > messagenews:dc43392b-e794-4709-aa2b-de9ac6696aa7@g30g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> > On Sep 18, 6:51 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > "Tutor" <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:21d4dc56-a764-466d-bb39-6c823e7e0f90@s20g2000yql.googlegroups.com...
> > > On Sep 18, 2:23 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>
> > > > It's so frustrating... there's no point to it.
> > > > It's just like whatever play he wants to run, he runs, no matter the
> > > > situation.
>
> > > > Shonn Greene runs for 10 yards on 1st down, so next play he has LT
> > > > run,
> > > > for a 3-yd loss.
>
> > > > Funny about Sanchez... he's thrown 2 bad INTs, but he looks so much
> > > > more
> > > > mature out there,
> > > > & in-control of things. Hunter's really having trouble. And Sanchez
> > > > just
> > > > aint getting
> > > > much time to throw. Of course, Mangold's injury doesn't help.
> > > > They really have to do more play-action... and more rushing Shonn.
>
> > > agreed. But the first drive was outstanding. Now, that said, let'd
> > > enjoy this win and enjoy what looks to be a real nice season ahead.
> > > Would hate this forum to become *exclusively* a bitching and moaning
> > > horror show again. TOday was a convincing and dominating win. Far
> > > short of perfection which will NEVER happen.
>
> > > There were some very nice moments. And...I think Sanchez looked really
> > > good
> > > when he was getting it done...better than the past.
>
> > Papa, if he would just relax. He is more dangerous when he has a
> > little success. The first pick he had 2-3 guys that would have gotten
> > him the first down.
>
> > He & the OL buried themselves but if he would have taken a deep breath
> > twice we are up by 10-14 more at half time. The center struggled (3rd
> > string so no surprise) and that contributed but to blame play calling
> > on this makes little sense. The problems in this order were:
>
> > 1. Injury to Mangold
> > 2. Hunter...could switch one and two
> > 3. The OC
> > 4. Sanchez who is taught and controlled by the OC
>
> > Look at the plays & maybe changing it here & there may have helped but
> > unforced int's when you have options that are open is not a tactical
> > issue it is a young dopey QB trying to be the man.
>
> >http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/boxscore?gid=20110918020&page=plays
>
> > Fixed it....see above. Yes...as I have said many times...Sanchez is weak
> > at
> > times, many times and has flaws...but the only OC he has ever had is an
> > idiot. He does not have the comfort of developing behind an O line that
> > protects, or a program with continuity and he got thrown into the mix
> > too
> > early...I don't see how much more can be expected of him...he is not Cam
> > Newton.
>
> We disagree I am shocked.
>
> :)
>
> If he doesn't throw those two picks we are up big & he is on the bench
> resting for the 4 Q. Maybe it is Schott but he was not under pressure
> for the int's. I can partially agree as Mangold could be a bigger
> deal.
>
> The one thing I did notice was this. If we started with 1st & 10 &
> had no penalties every drive but one lead (int) to points. I know it
> is tough to do but he has issues with 20+ yards for 1st downs.
> ________________________________________________________________
>
> Look, I agree...but I don't think he is that good to start out with...and
> the only "teacher" he has had at this level is someone I find to be very
> flawed. I do not compare him to the "greats" not a Brady, Manning or any
> past great...compare him to the other young QB's who are doing really
> well...yes, they make big mistakes too..but their upside tends to be much
> brighter and when I look at why that is I often come to the only
> conclusion
> I can...the type of offense he is playing in causes problems for any
> QB...including guys like Favre. But...do I think Sanchez was the best
> choice they could have made...Hell no.

One game isn't a trend but if they an keep the penalty count low on
offense that would appear to help the QB & or the OC if your hunch is
correct.

The Mangold stuff is a worry. I watched Ryan's press conference from
11:30 -12:00 & wasn't sure if that was post game (probably not as it
was 30 minutes long) & he was talking about the young center.
_______________________________________________________________

My son was a running back who could block and carry the ball...so he took a
lot of hits. He played through all kinds of stuff and even carried the ball
over 25 times in a championship game with a broken hand...but the nagging
thing that kept bothering him one year was a high ankle sprain. He's seem
great, able to begin to run etc. And then when he had to do "football" type
work on it...bad news again. Mangold could be a big issue.

I watched Sam Bradford last night, and Cam Newton from Sunday, and Matt
Stafford...they are young QB's who have major potential...AND...LOOK at the
offenses they play in. Right now, Bradford has none of the talent to throw
to the Jets have and he looks good. Still...I'm not giving up on
Sanchez...if you watch football I don't see how anyone can not see the
differences in the offenses of these successful young QB's and the hodge
podge mess the Jets run. Continuity and scheme benefit a young
QB...AND...they need to put a really good O line in front of them...I think
that is a bigger problem because of the lock out...O lines need time to work
together. Lots of variables.

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TOPIC: Re-Vamp The O-line
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/4d3a0c340598656d?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 20 2011 7:52 am
From: Michael


I had a chance to watch a recording of the Jets-Jags game. Hunter is
a diasaster. They need to get him off of the field. Appart from a
few very understandable mistakes, that new center, Baxter appears to
be able to do the job, so I am not as worried now about not having
Mangold for a few weeks. Once Baxter has a cance to prep this week in
practice, he'll probably do a good job of it.

I'm wondering what they can do to get Hunter off the Field. May be
put that kid they got from GB, Schlauderaff in at the LG spot and put
Slauson in at RT. IMHO, I dont think Slauson's *slow feet* excludes
him from being able to do a much better job at RT than Hunter does.
Slauson plated RT at the college level as well as the center...

Bottom line... They gotta think a bit, may be shuffle things around
and get Hunter off of that line. He stright up can not play the
position at this point. That was not Demarcus Ware he was going
against last Sunday.


== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 20 2011 8:34 am
From: John C TX


X-No-Archive: Yes

> I had a chance to watch a recording of the Jets-Jags game.  Hunter is
> a diasaster.  They need to get him off of the field.  Appart from a
> few very understandable mistakes, that new center, Baxter appears to
> be able to do the job, so I am not as worried now about not having
> Mangold for a few weeks.  Once Baxter has a cance to prep this week in
> practice, he'll probably do a good job of it.

I felt slightly better that he had never snapped the ball to Sanchez
before although I do wonder why that was the case. I have hope but
still am worried.
>
> I'm wondering what they can do to get Hunter off the Field.  May be
> put that kid they got from GB, Schlauderaff in at the LG spot and put
> Slauson in at RT.  IMHO, I dont think Slauson's *slow feet* excludes
> him from being able to do a much better job at RT than Hunter does.
> Slauson plated RT at the college level as well as the center...

You may weaken two positions. They also may want the little
experience Slausson brings to the table with a rookie next to him.

> Bottom line... They gotta think a bit, may be shuffle things around
> and get Hunter off of that line. He stright up can not play the
> position at this point.  That was not Demarcus Ware he was going
> against last Sunday.

We will see how good Callahan is over the next few weeks.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 20 2011 9:14 am
From: Michael


On Sep 20, 11:34 am, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> X-No-Archive: Yes
>
> > I had a chance to watch a recording of the Jets-Jags game.  Hunter is
> > a diasaster.  They need to get him off of the field.  Appart from a
> > few very understandable mistakes, that new center, Baxter appears to
> > be able to do the job, so I am not as worried now about not having
> > Mangold for a few weeks.  Once Baxter has a cance to prep this week in
> > practice, he'll probably do a good job of it.
>
> I felt slightly better that he had never snapped the ball to Sanchez
> before although I do wonder why that was the case.  I have hope but
> still am worried.
>
>
>
> > I'm wondering what they can do to get Hunter off the Field.  May be
> > put that kid they got from GB, Schlauderaff in at the LG spot and put
> > Slauson in at RT.  IMHO, I dont think Slauson's *slow feet* excludes
> > him from being able to do a much better job at RT than Hunter does.
> > Slauson plated RT at the college level as well as the center...
>
> You may weaken two positions.  They also may want the little
> experience Slausson brings to the table with a rookie next to him.
>
> > Bottom line... They gotta think a bit, may be shuffle things around
> > and get Hunter off of that line. He stright up can not play the
> > position at this point.  That was not Demarcus Ware he was going
> > against last Sunday.
>
> We will see how good Callahan is over the next few weeks.

i was thiking the same thing... I REALY hope that Rex lests the o-line
arrangment sit with Callahan. I think he is a capable coach.


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 20 2011 1:09 pm
From: "Papa Carl"

"Michael" <mjd1966@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:26562db3-0b1a-4290-9520-c211dd325ffe@ge10g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 20, 11:34 am, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> X-No-Archive: Yes
>
> > I had a chance to watch a recording of the Jets-Jags game. Hunter is
> > a diasaster. They need to get him off of the field. Appart from a
> > few very understandable mistakes, that new center, Baxter appears to
> > be able to do the job, so I am not as worried now about not having
> > Mangold for a few weeks. Once Baxter has a cance to prep this week in
> > practice, he'll probably do a good job of it.
>
> I felt slightly better that he had never snapped the ball to Sanchez
> before although I do wonder why that was the case. I have hope but
> still am worried.
>
>
>
> > I'm wondering what they can do to get Hunter off the Field. May be
> > put that kid they got from GB, Schlauderaff in at the LG spot and put
> > Slauson in at RT. IMHO, I dont think Slauson's *slow feet* excludes
> > him from being able to do a much better job at RT than Hunter does.
> > Slauson plated RT at the college level as well as the center...
>
> You may weaken two positions. They also may want the little
> experience Slausson brings to the table with a rookie next to him.
>
> > Bottom line... They gotta think a bit, may be shuffle things around
> > and get Hunter off of that line. He stright up can not play the
> > position at this point. That was not Demarcus Ware he was going
> > against last Sunday.
>
> We will see how good Callahan is over the next few weeks.

i was thiking the same thing... I REALY hope that Rex lests the o-line
arrangment sit with Callahan. I think he is a capable coach.
___________________________________________________________

Well....I've always thought the two units that need to play together as a
cohesive group the most are D backs and O line. And...O line is always the
most under examinded group on ANY team. They tend to only get really looked
at or appreciated when things go badly. Now...my opinion is they need to
look at who is on the roster now...who has looked good and is not a starter
in a position where there may be some depth and make a trade. They have got
to bring in another capable O lineman. I'm not sure who is ultimately
responsible for the mess they are in...but somebody had to know Hunter was
this bad...and the rest other than Mangold and Brick are journeymen at
best...what the Hell were they thinking? Make a trade NOW ! Somebody out
there needs something they have one extra of.

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 20 2011 8:30 am
From: John C TX


I hate seeing a starting player running back kicks but at 42.5 yards a
return last week & 27.5 he gives the other team something to think
about.


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 20 2011 9:11 am
From: Michael


On Sep 20, 11:30 am, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I hate seeing a starting player running back kicks but at 42.5 yards a
> return last week & 27.5 he gives the other team something to think
> about.

I am glad I settled on a "Cromartie" jersey to wear this season... I
had a feeling he was going to have a good year for the Jets... Not to
mention the nice things he said about Tom Brady... My Gastineau throw
back is staying in the closet this season.

Go 31 !!!


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 20 2011 11:21 am
From: John C TX


On Sep 20, 11:11 am, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Sep 20, 11:30 am, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I hate seeing a starting player running back kicks but at 42.5 yards a
> > return last week & 27.5 he gives the other team something to think
> > about.
>
> I am glad I settled on a "Cromartie" jersey to wear this season... I
> had a feeling he was going to have a good year for the Jets... Not to
> mention the nice things he said about Tom Brady... My Gastineau throw
> back is staying in the closet this season.
>
> Go 31 !!!

I would be afraid of getting served with a paternity suit.

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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 20 2011 8:33 am
From: CaptMyng


Colin Baxter Scouting Report
Projected Draft Position
by FFToolbox Writers
Matt De Lima's 5/11 Mock Draft Not selected
Position: C
School & Year/Status: Arizona - Senior
Jersey Number: #64
Height & Weight: 6'4 - 295 lbs.

2011 NFL Draft Prospect Scouting Report:
Colin Baxter, C, Arizona
For Four years Colin Baxter has been the unsung hero for Arizona's
offense. After redshirting in 2006 and beginning the 2007 campaign as
a backup, Baxter has been a staple in the Wildcats' starting lineup.
Even as a redshirt freshman in 2007, it did not take Baxter long to
earn a starting role and he ended up starting the final 11 games of
the season. Like the 2007 campaign, Baxter again started the 2008
season at the left guard spot. However an injury to then center Blake
Kerley forced Baxter into the middle of the line for the final nine
games of the season.

Baxter performed so well at the center spot that he never left. In
2009 he was a second-team All-Pac-10 honoree following his honorable
mention accolades a year earlier. By 2010 he was earning even more
accolades and was a Rimington Trophy Award finalist. Baxter's
collegiate career ended on a sour note as he was sidelined with a knee
injury for ASU's Alamo Bowl appearance against Oklahoma State.

It is hard to find any player with more starting experience than
Baxter. He may not be the best center out there in any single
category, but he is a smart player who can quickly learn to run an
offense from under center. His versatility to move over and play some
guard is not a bad thing either. Baxter's future is likely at center
and a team that needs depth at that position right away will pick up
Baxter late in the draft.

Last Updated Apr-10-2011 by Joel Welser


== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 20 2011 9:13 am
From: Michael


On Sep 20, 11:33 am, CaptMyng <dfu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Colin Baxter Scouting Report
> Projected Draft Position
> by FFToolbox Writers
> Matt De Lima's 5/11 Mock Draft  Not selected
> Position:       C
> School & Year/Status:       Arizona - Senior
> Jersey Number:  #64
> Height & Weight:    6'4 - 295 lbs.
>
> 2011 NFL Draft Prospect Scouting Report:
> Colin Baxter, C, Arizona
> For Four years Colin Baxter has been the unsung hero for Arizona's
> offense. After redshirting in 2006 and beginning the 2007 campaign as
> a backup, Baxter has been a staple in the Wildcats' starting lineup.
> Even as a redshirt freshman in 2007, it did not take Baxter long to
> earn a starting role and he ended up starting the final 11 games of
> the season. Like the 2007 campaign, Baxter again started the 2008
> season at the left guard spot. However an injury to then center Blake
> Kerley forced Baxter into the middle of the line for the final nine
> games of the season.
>
> Baxter performed so well at the center spot that he never left. In
> 2009 he was a second-team All-Pac-10 honoree following his honorable
> mention accolades a year earlier. By 2010 he was earning even more
> accolades and was a Rimington Trophy Award finalist. Baxter's
> collegiate career ended on a sour note as he was sidelined with a knee
> injury for ASU's Alamo Bowl appearance against Oklahoma State.
>
> It is hard to find any player with more starting experience than
> Baxter. He may not be the best center out there in any single
> category, but he is a smart player who can quickly learn to run an
> offense from under center. His versatility to move over and play some
> guard is not a bad thing either. Baxter's future is likely at center
> and a team that needs depth at that position right away will pick up
> Baxter late in the draft.
>
> Last Updated Apr-10-2011 by Joel Welser

thanx for posting... i was saying in an earlier post... after watching
baxter play at center, he really looked like he had the tools... great
scouting by the jets... he looks like a real find. i am not so worried
now about mangold being out for a few weeks...

IMHO, Hunter is the guy they need to get off the field


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 20 2011 12:34 pm
From: buRford


On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:33:58 -0700 (PDT), CaptMyng <dfusco@gmail.com> wrote:

>Colin Baxter Scouting Report
>Projected Draft Position
>by FFToolbox Writers
>Matt De Lima's 5/11 Mock Draft Not selected
>Position: C
>School & Year/Status: Arizona - Senior
>Jersey Number: #64
>Height & Weight: 6'4 - 295 lbs.
>
>2011 NFL Draft Prospect Scouting Report:
>Colin Baxter, C, Arizona
>For Four years Colin Baxter has been the unsung hero for Arizona's
>offense. After redshirting in 2006 and beginning the 2007 campaign as
>a backup, Baxter has been a staple in the Wildcats' starting lineup.
>Even as a redshirt freshman in 2007, it did not take Baxter long to
>earn a starting role and he ended up starting the final 11 games of
>the season. Like the 2007 campaign, Baxter again started the 2008
>season at the left guard spot. However an injury to then center Blake
>Kerley forced Baxter into the middle of the line for the final nine
>games of the season.
>
>Baxter performed so well at the center spot that he never left. In
>2009 he was a second-team All-Pac-10 honoree following his honorable
>mention accolades a year earlier. By 2010 he was earning even more
>accolades and was a Rimington Trophy Award finalist. Baxter's
>collegiate career ended on a sour note as he was sidelined with a knee
>injury for ASU's Alamo Bowl appearance against Oklahoma State.
>
>It is hard to find any player with more starting experience than
>Baxter. He may not be the best center out there in any single
>category, but he is a smart player who can quickly learn to run an
>offense from under center. His versatility to move over and play some
>guard is not a bad thing either. Baxter's future is likely at center
>and a team that needs depth at that position right away will pick up
>Baxter late in the draft.
>
>Last Updated Apr-10-2011 by Joel Welser

He certainly did an admirable job on Sunday.
He seems to be a bit light, though... he'll need to bulk up.
But overall, if he's able to improve at all, this one was a good pick-up by management.


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 20 2011 11:36 am
From: Ritchie


On Sep 20, 12:13 pm, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Sep 20, 11:33 am, CaptMyng <dfu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Colin Baxter Scouting Report
> > Projected Draft Position
> > by FFToolbox Writers
> > Matt De Lima's 5/11 Mock Draft  Not selected
> > Position:       C
> > School & Year/Status:       Arizona - Senior
> > Jersey Number:  #64
> > Height & Weight:    6'4 - 295 lbs.
>
> > 2011 NFL Draft Prospect Scouting Report:
> > Colin Baxter, C, Arizona
> > For Four years Colin Baxter has been the unsung hero for Arizona's
> > offense. After redshirting in 2006 and beginning the 2007 campaign as
> > a backup, Baxter has been a staple in the Wildcats' starting lineup.
> > Even as a redshirt freshman in 2007, it did not take Baxter long to
> > earn a starting role and he ended up starting the final 11 games of
> > the season. Like the 2007 campaign, Baxter again started the 2008
> > season at the left guard spot. However an injury to then center Blake
> > Kerley forced Baxter into the middle of the line for the final nine
> > games of the season.
>
> > Baxter performed so well at the center spot that he never left. In
> > 2009 he was a second-team All-Pac-10 honoree following his honorable
> > mention accolades a year earlier. By 2010 he was earning even more
> > accolades and was a Rimington Trophy Award finalist. Baxter's
> > collegiate career ended on a sour note as he was sidelined with a knee
> > injury for ASU's Alamo Bowl appearance against Oklahoma State.
>
> > It is hard to find any player with more starting experience than
> > Baxter. He may not be the best center out there in any single
> > category, but he is a smart player who can quickly learn to run an
> > offense from under center. His versatility to move over and play some
> > guard is not a bad thing either. Baxter's future is likely at center
> > and a team that needs depth at that position right away will pick up
> > Baxter late in the draft.
>
> > Last Updated Apr-10-2011 by Joel Welser
>
> thanx for posting... i was saying in an earlier post... after watching
> baxter play at center, he really looked like he had the tools... great
> scouting by the jets... he looks like a real find. i am not so worried
> now about mangold being out for a few weeks...
>
> IMHO, Hunter is the guy they need to get off the field

Agree, I think Baxter will be fine but Hunter has to stay off the
field. There is a report that Sanchez has a bruised throwing arm. They
have to protect him better. He is taking way too many hits and if it
continues they are going to lose him for the season. And I have zero
confidence in Brunell. Too bad they lost Greg McElroy for the season
because he looked good in the preseason.

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TOPIC: Jets have an important advantage over Raiders...
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/958632925e933244?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 20 2011 10:07 am
From: Michael


Jets... Other than Hunter, they draw very few yellow flags... Raiders
draw flags left and right. If the Jets play their usual game and the
Raiders do too, the Jets have a huge advantage. This is one game
where they have to be patient, play efficiant, mistake free football
and let the Raiders hand them the game.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 20 2011 1:11 pm
From: "Papa Carl"

"Michael" <mjd1966@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:eddf884f-207d-4301-9afc-bcab50162b56@k29g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
> Jets... Other than Hunter, they draw very few yellow flags... Raiders
> draw flags left and right. If the Jets play their usual game and the
> Raiders do too, the Jets have a huge advantage. This is one game
> where they have to be patient, play efficiant, mistake free football
> and let the Raiders hand them the game.

OH GOD NO!!!! Herm Ball....Marty Ball.....Please...Play to Win the Game !


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 20 2011 1:30 pm
From: Michael


On Sep 20, 4:11 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> news:eddf884f-207d-4301-9afc-bcab50162b56@k29g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Jets... Other than Hunter, they draw very few yellow flags... Raiders
> > draw flags left and right.  If the Jets play their usual game and the
> > Raiders do too, the Jets have a huge advantage.  This is one game
> > where they have to be patient, play efficiant, mistake free football
> > and let the Raiders hand them the game.
>
> OH GOD NO!!!!  Herm Ball....Marty Ball.....Please...Play to Win the Game !

"Hello... You play to win the game"

In this case, with the O-line the Jets have, Herm Ball might be the
way to go. I am not saying they should not take their shots downfield
every now and then... But they should play Herm Ball this time out

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TOPIC: Bullshit call
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/077f35d7f3ca3aa1?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 20 2011 11:25 am
From: "Splat!"


On Sep 18, 3:13 pm, MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 18, 3:05 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Sanchez was still in field of play.
> > if that play was a Jest pushing a Jag or called if it was Tom Brady you'd
> > all be screaming bloody murder.
>
> Most of the Jets yards have been via penalty. Sanchez is terrible,
> even his completions are miracle catches that should be intercepted.
> The Jets running game actually looks worse than the Patriots running
> game.

Shut up, bitch

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TOPIC: Bills-Fitz
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/9b54ecca7ac300b1?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 20 2011 11:33 am
From: Michael


http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Buffalo-Bills-have-franchise-QB-in-Ryan-Fitzpatrick-Schein-Nine-092111

I REALLY want to see what the Bills do vs. The Pats...

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 20 2011 12:14 pm
From: IYM <"S U N risr"@optonline.net>


On 9/20/2011 2:33 PM, Michael wrote:
> http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Buffalo-Bills-have-franchise-QB-in-Ryan-Fitzpatrick-Schein-Nine-092111
>
> I REALLY want to see what the Bills do vs. The Pats...
>

As a Bills fan, I do as well - We'll see how he does against a top tier
team and Brady. Beating up the pathetic Chiefs and squeaking by a
mediocre team in the Raiders does prove anything to me... Beat up Brady
and the Pats in a convincing manner will raise my eyebrows and get a
"hmmm" out of me. My hopes have been crushed more times from that team
then I care to mention. They seem to always find a way to lose in the
end....The last was when they went 6-0 a few years ago to start the
season and then ate a big chit-choke sandwich and missed the playoffs....


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 20 2011 12:34 pm
From: Michael


On Sep 20, 3:14 pm, IYM <"S U N risr"@optonline.net> wrote:
> On 9/20/2011 2:33 PM, Michael wrote:
>
> >http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Buffalo-Bills-have-franchise-QB-in...
>
> > I REALLY want to see what the Bills do vs. The Pats...
>
> As a Bills fan, I do as well - We'll see how he does against a top tier
> team and Brady.  Beating up the pathetic Chiefs and squeaking by a
> mediocre team in the Raiders does prove anything to me... Beat up Brady
> and the Pats in a convincing manner will raise my eyebrows and get a
> "hmmm" out of me.  My hopes have been crushed more times from that team
> then I care to mention.  They seem to always find a way to lose in the
> end....The last was when they went 6-0 a few years ago to start the
> season and then ate a big chit-choke sandwich and missed the playoffs....

If they make a good go of it vs. the Pats this week, they will start
getting some attention.


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 20 2011 12:37 pm
From: buRford


On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:14:40 -0400, IYM <"S U N risr"@optonline.net> wrote:

>On 9/20/2011 2:33 PM, Michael wrote:
>> http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Buffalo-Bills-have-franchise-QB-in-Ryan-Fitzpatrick-Schein-Nine-092111
>>
>> I REALLY want to see what the Bills do vs. The Pats...
>>
>
>As a Bills fan, I do as well - We'll see how he does against a top tier
>team and Brady. Beating up the pathetic Chiefs and squeaking by a
>mediocre team in the Raiders does prove anything to me... Beat up Brady
>and the Pats in a convincing manner will raise my eyebrows and get a
>"hmmm" out of me. My hopes have been crushed more times from that team
>then I care to mention. They seem to always find a way to lose in the
>end....The last was when they went 6-0 a few years ago to start the
>season and then ate a big chit-choke sandwich and missed the playoffs....

I've always like FitzPatrick, seemed to have good instincts, & a toughness needed at QB.
Being from Harvard probably hurt him... the geek factor & all.

I'm more interested in seeing how the Jets play against them ;)


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 20 2011 1:08 pm
From: Michael


On Sep 20, 3:37 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:14:40 -0400, IYM <"S U N risr"@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> >On 9/20/2011 2:33 PM, Michael wrote:
> >>http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Buffalo-Bills-have-franchise-QB-in...
>
> >> I REALLY want to see what the Bills do vs. The Pats...
>
> >As a Bills fan, I do as well - We'll see how he does against a top tier
> >team and Brady.  Beating up the pathetic Chiefs and squeaking by a
> >mediocre team in the Raiders does prove anything to me... Beat up Brady
> >and the Pats in a convincing manner will raise my eyebrows and get a
> >"hmmm" out of me.  My hopes have been crushed more times from that team
> >then I care to mention.  They seem to always find a way to lose in the
> >end....The last was when they went 6-0 a few years ago to start the
> >season and then ate a big chit-choke sandwich and missed the playoffs....
>
> I've always like FitzPatrick, seemed to have good instincts, & a toughness needed at QB.
> Being from Harvard probably hurt him... the geek factor & all.
>
> I'm more interested in seeing how the Jets play against them ;)

I think the Jets will give the Bills a harder time than the Pats. The
Bills will have a hard time putting points up on the Jets. Pats vs
Bills will probably be a shootout. The Jets defense will probably win
the game vs. the Bills.


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