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* Bills-Fitz - 8 messages, 7 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/9b54ecca7ac300b1?hl=en
* Re-Vamp The O-line - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/4d3a0c340598656d?hl=en
* Now I feel better... - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/aa4bf7a1db2ffbe6?hl=en
* Unintended benifit of Nnamdi fail... - 6 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/0eeeab43fa02ba4f?hl=en
* Bullshit call - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/077f35d7f3ca3aa1?hl=en
* My man Cro Superior to Nnamdi - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/de434d427000513d?hl=en
* damn stealers fan made me limp in the package!!! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/b59b3567ae1f5f5e?hl=en
* So i wonder - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/c77c79951fcc35e0?hl=en
* lmao @ your hapless Colts - 4th and 2 bwahaha in yur ass bitch - 1 messages,
1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/702be5535ca7f01b?hl=en
* Jets - Raiders prediction - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/e6b5d509749c97e1?hl=en
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TOPIC: Bills-Fitz
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/9b54ecca7ac300b1?hl=en
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 20 2011 7:21 pm
From: "JKConey"
"Michael" wrote in message
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http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Buffalo-Bills-have-franchise-QB-in-Ryan-Fitzpatrick-Schein-Nine-092111
I REALLY want to see what the Bills do vs. The Pats...
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They'll lose 52-38
-- JK Sinrod
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com
== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 21 2011 12:57 am
From: Señor Patriots
On Sep 20, 2:37 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>
>
> I've always like FitzPatrick, seemed to have good instincts, & a toughness needed at QB.
> Being from Harvard probably hurt him... the geek factor & all.
>
I am sniffing that he's the real deal. Both of our teams will have a
chance to find out what he's really got. I think he's for real.
> I'm more interested in seeing how the Jets play against them ;)
I do look forward to those games. But I will look forward to the
Bills more now that they are going in the right direction. It could
be that there are three quality teams in the division and to me that
makes it much more interesting. If Miami would get its head out of
its ass it could be the deepest division in the league.
== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 21 2011 5:29 am
From: John C TX
X-No-Archive: Yes
> >> I REALLY want to see what the Bills do vs. The Pats...
>
> >As a Bills fan, I do as well - We'll see how he does against a top tier
> >team and Brady. Beating up the pathetic Chiefs and squeaking by a
> >mediocre team in the Raiders does prove anything to me... Beat up Brady
> >and the Pats in a convincing manner will raise my eyebrows and get a
> >"hmmm" out of me. My hopes have been crushed more times from that team
> >then I care to mention. They seem to always find a way to lose in the
> >end....The last was when they went 6-0 a few years ago to start the
> >season and then ate a big chit-choke sandwich and missed the playoffs....
>
> I've always like FitzPatrick, seemed to have good instincts, & a toughness needed at QB.
> Being from Harvard probably hurt him... the geek factor & all.
I am with you as he gave us fits in Mangini's last year.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200810120nyj.htm
>
> I'm more interested in seeing how the Jets play against them ;)
I don't have time to hate the pats. The AFC East looks tougher this
year.
== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 21 2011 6:27 am
From: Michael
On Sep 21, 3:57 am, Señor Patriots <roamin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sep 20, 2:37 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>
> > I've always like FitzPatrick, seemed to have good instincts, & a toughness needed at QB.
> > Being from Harvard probably hurt him... the geek factor & all.
>
> I am sniffing that he's the real deal. Both of our teams will have a
> chance to find out what he's really got. I think he's for real.
>
> > I'm more interested in seeing how the Jets play against them ;)
>
> I do look forward to those games. But I will look forward to the
> Bills more now that they are going in the right direction. It could
> be that there are three quality teams in the division and to me that
> makes it much more interesting. If Miami would get its head out of
> its ass it could be the deepest division in the league.
i agree 100 %. it is much more fun if all the afc eadt teams are
good. as i jet fan, i am always asked if i hate the brady and the
pats... not even close... the pats are one of the best things about
jets football. it would be great if the bills are actually getting
better. that would mean two more sensational div rival games for the
jets AND... if the jets are in contention for the div, pats vs. bills
would be fun too. i get to watch div rivals knock each other off. as
of yet, the bills have not proven much of anything given their first
two opponents... we'll get a good idea of who they REALLY are this
weekend. GO BILLS !!!
== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 21 2011 9:31 am
From: buRford
On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:57:38 -0700 (PDT), Señor Patriots <roaming13@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Sep 20, 2:37 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I've always like FitzPatrick, seemed to have good instincts, & a toughness needed at QB.
>> Being from Harvard probably hurt him... the geek factor & all.
>>
>I am sniffing that he's the real deal. Both of our teams will have a
>chance to find out what he's really got. I think he's for real.
>
>> I'm more interested in seeing how the Jets play against them ;)
>I do look forward to those games. But I will look forward to the
>Bills more now that they are going in the right direction. It could
>be that there are three quality teams in the division and to me that
>makes it much more interesting. If Miami would get its head out of
>its ass it could be the deepest division in the league.
>
As a Jets fan, I'm fine with Miami keepin its head where it is.
They'll always be #1 on old-tyme Jets fans crapola list ;)
== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 21 2011 10:43 am
From: Señor Patriots
On Sep 21, 8:27 am, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Sep 21, 3:57 am, Señor Patriots <roamin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sep 20, 2:37 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>
> > > I've always like FitzPatrick, seemed to have good instincts, & a toughness needed at QB.
> > > Being from Harvard probably hurt him... the geek factor & all.
>
> > I am sniffing that he's the real deal. Both of our teams will have a
> > chance to find out what he's really got. I think he's for real.
>
> > > I'm more interested in seeing how the Jets play against them ;)
>
> > I do look forward to those games. But I will look forward to the
> > Bills more now that they are going in the right direction. It could
> > be that there are three quality teams in the division and to me that
> > makes it much more interesting. If Miami would get its head out of
> > its ass it could be the deepest division in the league.
>
> i agree 100 %. it is much more fun if all the afc eadt teams are
> good. as i jet fan, i am always asked if i hate the brady and the
> pats... not even close... the pats are one of the best things about
> jets football. it would be great if the bills are actually getting
> better. that would mean two more sensational div rival games for the
> jets AND... if the jets are in contention for the div, pats vs. bills
> would be fun too. i get to watch div rivals knock each other off. as
> of yet, the bills have not proven much of anything given their first
> two opponents... we'll get a good idea of who they REALLY are this
> weekend. GO BILLS !!!
More drama and more competition is better to me. It tests teams,
builds their mental and emotional strength, gives them more chances to
find solutions to bad situations, builds their game time physical
conditioning, gives them opportunities to practice meaningful 2 minute
drills, builds a bond amongst the players, gives fans a lot more
energy in the highs and lows, creates a charge of energy to get back
at them next time, etc. I'm glad the Jets are a good team, and I'm
glad the Bills are going in the right direction. The Pats owe your
team, especially, for creating a lot of drama and excitement twice a
year. That doesn't happen with irrelevant competition.
== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 21 2011 11:13 am
From: IYM <"S U N risr"@optonline.net>
On 9/21/2011 1:43 PM, Señor Patriots wrote:
> On Sep 21, 8:27 am, Michael<mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> On Sep 21, 3:57 am, Señor Patriots<roamin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sep 20, 2:37 pm, buRford<buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> I've always like FitzPatrick, seemed to have good instincts,& a toughness needed at QB.
>>>> Being from Harvard probably hurt him... the geek factor& all.
>>
>>> I am sniffing that he's the real deal. Both of our teams will have a
>>> chance to find out what he's really got. I think he's for real.
>>
>>>> I'm more interested in seeing how the Jets play against them ;)
>>
>>> I do look forward to those games. But I will look forward to the
>>> Bills more now that they are going in the right direction. It could
>>> be that there are three quality teams in the division and to me that
>>> makes it much more interesting. If Miami would get its head out of
>>> its ass it could be the deepest division in the league.
>>
>> i agree 100 %. it is much more fun if all the afc eadt teams are
>> good. as i jet fan, i am always asked if i hate the brady and the
>> pats... not even close... the pats are one of the best things about
>> jets football. it would be great if the bills are actually getting
>> better. that would mean two more sensational div rival games for the
>> jets AND... if the jets are in contention for the div, pats vs. bills
>> would be fun too. i get to watch div rivals knock each other off. as
>> of yet, the bills have not proven much of anything given their first
>> two opponents... we'll get a good idea of who they REALLY are this
>> weekend. GO BILLS !!!
>
> More drama and more competition is better to me. It tests teams,
> builds their mental and emotional strength, gives them more chances to
> find solutions to bad situations, builds their game time physical
> conditioning, gives them opportunities to practice meaningful 2 minute
> drills, builds a bond amongst the players, gives fans a lot more
> energy in the highs and lows, creates a charge of energy to get back
> at them next time, etc. I'm glad the Jets are a good team, and I'm
> glad the Bills are going in the right direction. The Pats owe your
> team, especially, for creating a lot of drama and excitement twice a
> year. That doesn't happen with irrelevant competition.
Well, I hope the Bills do give you a good fight. A different team and
staff, this I see as a pivotal game - yes it's only week three - but it
is for them. A win will give them the confidence that they can compete
with any team....a loss, but close game will still help by saying that
they look like they are moving in the right direction. A blowout loss,
esp at home, will make it look like the first two games were only wins
because the opponent sucked. We all know KC is bad, but Oakland seems a
mid-pack team. Seeing how the Jets play them will be as interesting as
seeing how the Bills play the Pats...
== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 21 2011 2:37 pm
From: "Papa Carl"
"buRford" <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:57:38 -0700 (PDT), Se�or Patriots
> <roaming13@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sep 20, 2:37 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I've always like FitzPatrick, seemed to have good instincts, & a
>>> toughness needed at QB.
>>> Being from Harvard probably hurt him... the geek factor & all.
>>>
>>I am sniffing that he's the real deal. Both of our teams will have a
>>chance to find out what he's really got. I think he's for real.
>>
>>> I'm more interested in seeing how the Jets play against them ;)
>>I do look forward to those games. But I will look forward to the
>>Bills more now that they are going in the right direction. It could
>>be that there are three quality teams in the division and to me that
>>makes it much more interesting. If Miami would get its head out of
>>its ass it could be the deepest division in the league.
>>
>
> As a Jets fan, I'm fine with Miami keepin its head where it is.
> They'll always be #1 on old-tyme Jets fans crapola list ;)
I've watched too much lousy football and the kind of ball that generates a
"let them loose it" attitude...so on this one, I'm going for as many good
teams as possible and a lot of competition. That eliminates the tendency to
just sit back and wait for someone else to lose it, you need to actually
play the game, coach the game, make plays, be proactive and go win it and
the result if a much better product to watch. OMHO Papa Carl
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TOPIC: Re-Vamp The O-line
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/4d3a0c340598656d?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 21 2011 7:01 am
From: Michael
On Sep 20, 10:11 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "John C TX" <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:6fcfde98-daa4-4dc2-824c-57449eed3c00@c22g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> X-No-Archive: Yes
>
> revamp does not have to be hyphenated.
lick my balls :-)
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TOPIC: Now I feel better...
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/aa4bf7a1db2ffbe6?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 21 2011 8:16 am
From: buRford
Whew... I was worried, but not anymore!
Despite the rough start to his career, Ducasse still has a huge supporter in GM Mike
Tannenbaum.
"I think Vlad is going to have a great career," Tannenbaum told ESPNNewYork.com. "I
feel really good about him. He's like the other guys we drafted in 2010 (Kyle Wilson, Joe
McKnight and John Conner). They still haven't had an off-season program."
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 21 2011 8:23 am
From: Michael
On Sep 21, 11:16 am, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> Whew... I was worried, but not anymore!
>
> Despite the rough start to his career, Ducasse still has a huge supporter in GM Mike
> Tannenbaum.
>
> "I think Vlad is going to have a great career," Tannenbaum told ESPNNewYork.com. "I
> feel really good about him. He s like the other guys we drafted in 2010 (Kyle Wilson, Joe
> McKnight and John Conner). They still haven t had an off-season program."
Translation
"i hope i didnt totally screw up two consecutive drafts as badly as it
appears right now"
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TOPIC: Unintended benifit of Nnamdi fail...
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/0eeeab43fa02ba4f?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 21 2011 8:28 am
From: Michael
The Jets brass wanted Nnamdi and crapped out. It might have worked
out better in the end. Nnamdi cant return punts like Cro... Cro also
appears to have a major chip on his shoulder... In the end, the a
motivated and "dissed" Cro may be better for the Jets than Nnamdi
would have been. Once the Jets signed Cro again, I predicted that
he'd have his best pro year and would out-do Nnamdi... Looks like Cro
prophecy is on the way to taking shape. Nice job, Tanny... Since we
cant give him props for Wilson and Ducasse, at least he can get credit
for Cro. It was not intended, but what the heck...
== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 21 2011 10:56 am
From: Señor Patriots
On Sep 21, 10:28 am, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> The Jets brass wanted Nnamdi and crapped out. It might have worked
> out better in the end. Nnamdi cant return punts like Cro... Cro also
> appears to have a major chip on his shoulder... In the end, the a
> motivated and "dissed" Cro may be better for the Jets than Nnamdi
> would have been. Once the Jets signed Cro again, I predicted that
> he'd have his best pro year and would out-do Nnamdi... Looks like Cro
> prophecy is on the way to taking shape. Nice job, Tanny... Since we
> cant give him props for Wilson and Ducasse, at least he can get credit
> for Cro. It was not intended, but what the heck...
You might as well take the ST advantage. To me that's counts more
than defense in this new sport. To me the defenses of the league can
no longer keep up with the offenses. We are watching an entirely new
sport. This sport is dominated by offenses and ST. ST are especially
potent for putting up points within a few seconds, and deflating the
other team emotionally.
Maybe I'm wrong and this is due to the strangeness of a lockout
season. We'll know in a few more games, but I don't expect the trend
to change. The defenses are just not able to dominate right now. The
message to me is: Find ways to score points or you're going to lose a
lot of close games.
== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 21 2011 1:11 pm
From: Mark Zarella
On Sep 21, 1:56 pm, Señor Patriots <roamin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sep 21, 10:28 am, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > The Jets brass wanted Nnamdi and crapped out. It might have worked
> > out better in the end. Nnamdi cant return punts like Cro... Cro also
> > appears to have a major chip on his shoulder... In the end, the a
> > motivated and "dissed" Cro may be better for the Jets than Nnamdi
> > would have been. Once the Jets signed Cro again, I predicted that
> > he'd have his best pro year and would out-do Nnamdi... Looks like Cro
> > prophecy is on the way to taking shape. Nice job, Tanny... Since we
> > cant give him props for Wilson and Ducasse, at least he can get credit
> > for Cro. It was not intended, but what the heck...
>
> You might as well take the ST advantage. To me that's counts more
> than defense in this new sport. To me the defenses of the league can
> no longer keep up with the offenses. We are watching an entirely new
> sport. This sport is dominated by offenses and ST. ST are especially
> potent for putting up points within a few seconds, and deflating the
> other team emotionally.
>
> Maybe I'm wrong and this is due to the strangeness of a lockout
> season. We'll know in a few more games, but I don't expect the trend
> to change. The defenses are just not able to dominate right now. The
> message to me is: Find ways to score points or you're going to lose a
> lot of close games.
If the league made defense harder to play, then don't you think
they've made STs (kickers and KR in particular) a hell of a lot harder
than that?
== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 21 2011 2:39 pm
From: "Papa Carl"
"Se�or Patriots" <roaming13@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8be55725-0abd-4689-9862-497d774a8eb9@dq7g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 21, 10:28 am, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> The Jets brass wanted Nnamdi and crapped out. It might have worked
> out better in the end. Nnamdi cant return punts like Cro... Cro also
> appears to have a major chip on his shoulder... In the end, the a
> motivated and "dissed" Cro may be better for the Jets than Nnamdi
> would have been. Once the Jets signed Cro again, I predicted that
> he'd have his best pro year and would out-do Nnamdi... Looks like Cro
> prophecy is on the way to taking shape. Nice job, Tanny... Since we
> cant give him props for Wilson and Ducasse, at least he can get credit
> for Cro. It was not intended, but what the heck...
You might as well take the ST advantage. To me that's counts more
than defense in this new sport. To me the defenses of the league can
no longer keep up with the offenses. We are watching an entirely new
sport. This sport is dominated by offenses and ST. ST are especially
potent for putting up points within a few seconds, and deflating the
other team emotionally.
Maybe I'm wrong and this is due to the strangeness of a lockout
season. We'll know in a few more games, but I don't expect the trend
to change. The defenses are just not able to dominate right now. The
message to me is: Find ways to score points or you're going to lose a
lot of close games.
I think I agree and I think some guys who "get it" like BB follow suit and
get on the band wagon. This is the way the game is being played, and rules
are setting it up this way. Some stuff gets called a TD that would never
have been that back in the day.
== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 21 2011 3:59 pm
From: Michael
On Sep 21, 5:39 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Se or Patriots" <roamin...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:8be55725-0abd-4689-9862-497d774a8eb9@dq7g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 21, 10:28 am, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > The Jets brass wanted Nnamdi and crapped out. It might have worked
> > out better in the end. Nnamdi cant return punts like Cro... Cro also
> > appears to have a major chip on his shoulder... In the end, the a
> > motivated and "dissed" Cro may be better for the Jets than Nnamdi
> > would have been. Once the Jets signed Cro again, I predicted that
> > he'd have his best pro year and would out-do Nnamdi... Looks like Cro
> > prophecy is on the way to taking shape. Nice job, Tanny... Since we
> > cant give him props for Wilson and Ducasse, at least he can get credit
> > for Cro. It was not intended, but what the heck...
>
> You might as well take the ST advantage. To me that's counts more
> than defense in this new sport. To me the defenses of the league can
> no longer keep up with the offenses. We are watching an entirely new
> sport. This sport is dominated by offenses and ST. ST are especially
> potent for putting up points within a few seconds, and deflating the
> other team emotionally.
>
> Maybe I'm wrong and this is due to the strangeness of a lockout
> season. We'll know in a few more games, but I don't expect the trend
> to change. The defenses are just not able to dominate right now. The
> message to me is: Find ways to score points or you're going to lose a
> lot of close games.
>
> I think I agree and I think some guys who "get it" like BB follow suit and
> get on the band wagon. This is the way the game is being played, and rules
> are setting it up this way. Some stuff gets called a TD that would never
> have been that back in the day.
i dont like the direction the game is going in. it is bs. if a db
looks cross-eyed at a wr, he gets a flag. the rules for line play
gives all the advantages to the offense. if you dont hug and kiss the
qb when you sack him you get a flag. if you plaster a wr, you get a
flag. no three man wedge... kick it closer to mid field so there are
no more exciting run backs. they are turning the game into fast food
bull shit for people that dont know what real football is. even worse
than that... football was born of american blue collar folk. i guess
too bad for them that they cant afford tickets to the games now. i
for one done want to watch one pampered jeark-off play a game of catch
with another pampered jeark-off. i want real football.
== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 21 2011 5:27 pm
From: "Papa Carl"
"Michael" <mjd1966@verizon.net> wrote in message
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On Sep 21, 5:39 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Se or Patriots" <roamin...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:8be55725-0abd-4689-9862-497d774a8eb9@dq7g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 21, 10:28 am, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > The Jets brass wanted Nnamdi and crapped out. It might have worked
> > out better in the end. Nnamdi cant return punts like Cro... Cro also
> > appears to have a major chip on his shoulder... In the end, the a
> > motivated and "dissed" Cro may be better for the Jets than Nnamdi
> > would have been. Once the Jets signed Cro again, I predicted that
> > he'd have his best pro year and would out-do Nnamdi... Looks like Cro
> > prophecy is on the way to taking shape. Nice job, Tanny... Since we
> > cant give him props for Wilson and Ducasse, at least he can get credit
> > for Cro. It was not intended, but what the heck...
>
> You might as well take the ST advantage. To me that's counts more
> than defense in this new sport. To me the defenses of the league can
> no longer keep up with the offenses. We are watching an entirely new
> sport. This sport is dominated by offenses and ST. ST are especially
> potent for putting up points within a few seconds, and deflating the
> other team emotionally.
>
> Maybe I'm wrong and this is due to the strangeness of a lockout
> season. We'll know in a few more games, but I don't expect the trend
> to change. The defenses are just not able to dominate right now. The
> message to me is: Find ways to score points or you're going to lose a
> lot of close games.
>
> I think I agree and I think some guys who "get it" like BB follow suit and
> get on the band wagon. This is the way the game is being played, and rules
> are setting it up this way. Some stuff gets called a TD that would never
> have been that back in the day.
i dont like the direction the game is going in. it is bs. if a db
looks cross-eyed at a wr, he gets a flag. the rules for line play
gives all the advantages to the offense. if you dont hug and kiss the
qb when you sack him you get a flag. if you plaster a wr, you get a
flag. no three man wedge... kick it closer to mid field so there are
no more exciting run backs. they are turning the game into fast food
bull shit for people that dont know what real football is. even worse
than that... football was born of american blue collar folk. i guess
too bad for them that they cant afford tickets to the games now. i
for one done want to watch one pampered jeark-off play a game of catch
with another pampered jeark-off. i want real football.
________________________________________________________________________
Lord have Mercy ! Has Hell frozen over????? Did the earth change is
direction?????? I am in total and complete agreement with Michael, and not
only that but with his description of it. I grew up in a blue collar town,
with factories and a lot of working class people. The entire town turned
out for a Saturday football game. People would show up at an office at the
high school all week long to secure a ticket because at some point they
closed the gate. People would sit on the rooftops of houses all around the
field which was NOT near the school but on the East End of town and easily
accessible. One coach had been there for decades and was loved by all, an
icon in town. We had a Freshman Team, a Sophomore Team, The JV Team and the
Varsity. Everybody came out for the sport. And it was not a flashy game at
all. A lot of the time it was two TE sets and a full house backfield.
Sometimes we'd throw and even run out of a split with a flanker but not if
we couldn't move the ball first by pounding it. If we lost a game, we went
from the game field to the practice field for a "learning session."
And...it was very good for me, and I suspect a lot of others. I would never
have made it out of college without it and that tough background in the
sport.
I'm not saying we need to go back to that...but this sucks...totally
sucks...but it fits right in with the way the power structure feels about
the working man. I am so damn glad I was taught to respect a man because of
who he was and how he treated me, not by the job he had. I was told if the
man worked at all...it was dignity. My best friends on the team were a kid
who lost his Dad in the war, a kid whose Dad was a doctor, a kid whose Dad
worked in the factory across the street from the football field, and my Dad
who worked in an explosives plant...and the game taught us we were all the
same. I'm sick of the crap they play today...but, I watch it :-)
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TOPIC: Bullshit call
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/077f35d7f3ca3aa1?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 21 2011 11:34 am
From: "JKConey"
"MuahMan" wrote in message
news:76c7e680-4386-46d4-8397-92cd8bc8cc05@v18g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 18, 3:05 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Sanchez was still in field of play.
> if that play was a Jest pushing a Jag or called if it was Tom Brady you'd
> all be screaming bloody murder.
Most of the Jets yards have been via penalty. Sanchez is terrible,
even his completions are miracle catches that should be intercepted.
The Jets running game actually looks worse than the Patriots running
game.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You're totally right, so how'd he beat your brains out twice last year?
-- JK Sinrod
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 21 2011 6:19 pm
From: "WaterBoy"
"Se�or Patriots" <roaming13@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cb88d7c7-9710-40cc-ac5d-928cfbbc2c55@w28g2000yqw.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 18, 6:15 pm, "WaterBoy" <some...@somewhere.com> wrote:
> "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:j55fde$qp1$1@dont-email.me...> Sanchez was still in field of play.
> > if that play was a Jest pushing a Jag or called if it was Tom Brady
> > you'd
> > all be screaming bloody murder.
>
> Are you kidding me? If you so much as look at Brady the wrong way there is
> a
> flag thrown. I don't know which team is worse with gift calls, Squeelers
> or
> Patsies???
>
> WaterBoy
Would this be a conclusion formed by analyzing stats, or just your own
personal observations?
Hateful fans are guaranteed to do one thing all the time: See what
they want to see. So count me as unimpressed. It's been done a
million times. It's called whining.
No it's not whining. It's part of the game. Sometimes the Jets, get the
benefit of some calls, most of the time, they get screwed. But that's nor
here or there. Last year, I think it was Brady's helmet that got grazed by a
hand of the defense, totally unintentional, and they got flagged for 15
yards.
I usually enjoy ready your posts Se�or, but you are a blind Pats fan. It's
all good, I couldn't care less about officiating so long as they call it
down the middle. What gets me are these stupid ass calls, or border line
calls only going one way. Weather it the Jets, Broncos, Giants, dolphins, it
just sucks to get gypped out of a play here and there because of the
officials using "Judgment" calls, or an official is 25 yards away making a
call, when there is an official right there watching the play.
WaterBoy
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 21 2011 6:25 pm
From: "WaterBoy"
"Se�or Patriots" <roaming13@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cb88d7c7-9710-40cc-ac5d-928cfbbc2c55@w28g2000yqw.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 18, 6:15 pm, "WaterBoy" <some...@somewhere.com> wrote:
> "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:j55fde$qp1$1@dont-email.me...> Sanchez was still in field of play.
> > if that play was a Jest pushing a Jag or called if it was Tom Brady
> > you'd
> > all be screaming bloody murder.
>
> Are you kidding me? If you so much as look at Brady the wrong way there is
> a
> flag thrown. I don't know which team is worse with gift calls, Squeelers
> or
> Patsies???
>
> WaterBoy
Would this be a conclusion formed by analyzing stats, or just your own
personal observations?
Hateful fans are guaranteed to do one thing all the time: See what
they want to see. So count me as unimpressed. It's been done a
million times. It's called whining.
Also forgot to mention the Dolphin game last year against the Steelers.
Freaking zebras handed the game to the Steelers. Dolphins got royally
screwed. I am by no means a Dolphin fan, but to lose a game like that was
AWFUL!!! Dolphins played hard and because of a "Judgment" call they lost...
WaterBoy
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TOPIC: My man Cro Superior to Nnamdi
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/de434d427000513d?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 21 2011 1:50 pm
From: Michael
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/7329/cro-im-better-playmaker-than-nnamdi
By Rich Cimini
"When Antonio Cromartie re-signed with the Jets, he was beseiged with
questions about Nnamdi Asomugha, the team's first choice to start
opposite Darrelle Revis.
That was nothing. If Cromartie had signed with the Raiders, Asomugha's
former team, the comparisons to the All-Pro cornerback would've been
non-stop. The Raiders, whom the Jets play Sunday in Oakland, were hot
for Cromartie during free agency. It came down to Jets and Raiders.
Frankly, Cromartie believes the Asomugha comparisons would've been off
base. Why? Because in one respect, Cromartie thinks he's better than
Nnamdi. Yeah, that's right, better.
"My style of play and his style of play are totally different,"
Cromartie told ESPNNewYork.com. "I feel I'm more of a playmaker than
he is."
Cromartie is confident, and why not? He's coming off one of the best
games by a Jets cornerback in recent memory, a two-interception game
against the Jaguars. So far, the Jets' four-year, $32 million contract
for Cromartie looks like a solid investment.
The Raiders, who lost Asomugha in free agency, went hard after
Cromartie. He's an Al Davis kind of player -- fast, freakishly
athletic and a man-to-man corner. For Cromartie, the decision came
down to a shot at the Super Bowl. Evidently, he didn't think the
Raiders are close.
"For me, it was about being able to win now, having a chance to win
the Super Bowl," Cromartie said. "Oakland is an up-and-coming team and
coach (Hue) Jackson is doing a great job. They're a team that, in the
near future, is going to be a great team.
"They were trying to sell me that I could be one of their No. 1
corners (with Stanford Routt), but here, with the Jets, I feel like we
have two No. 1 corners -- 1A and 1B.""
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TOPIC: damn stealers fan made me limp in the package!!!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/b59b3567ae1f5f5e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 21 2011 3:00 pm
From: "R�vNsf�n �"
"Dean McEwen Jr" <STEELER_NATION@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:8037-4E7A2C3D-1053@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net...
: You think I care that you have or will develop diabetes? I hope you die
: from it.
Lonely psychos like yourself who post under one name and respond to yourself
under yet another are by far more apt to blowing their confused heads off or
diving off a 90 foot bridge, long before any illnesses that I may develop
will take me.
You only display your need for acceptance via the number of posts you make
to yourself while you pose as me. Just fall in line behind the rest of my
bitches...bitch!
~Drew
"Talk is cheap, ...lets just play"
Johnny Unitas - Baltimore Colts
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TOPIC: So i wonder
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/c77c79951fcc35e0?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 21 2011 3:44 pm
From: "R�vNsf�n �"
"SteelerfanNW" <dave52959@hotmai1.com> wrote in message
news:gqgj77t59rvf0rdulgo05kuoe2nui2i6mn@4ax.com...
: On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:02:02 -0400, "R�vNsf�n �"
: <noemail2u@nospam4me.org> wrote:
:
: >"SteelerfanNW" <dave52959@hotmai1.com> wrote in message
: >news:jt4h77h36k68f20nnl1937pveigc7fiv50@4ax.com...
: >: On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:13:21 -0400, "R�vNsf�n �"
: >: <noemail2u@nospam4me.org> wrote:
: >:
: >: >"SteelerfanNW" <dave52959@hotmai1.com> wrote in message
: >: >news:71lc77pi297e5uh2glhgcinml8r2dtfh74@4ax.com...
: >: >:
: >: >: Is the Baltimore D too old now?
: >: >
: >: >Obviously not as long as they keep playing the Steelers. 35-7 stands
as
: >it's
: >: >own irrefutable evidence.
: >:
: >:
: >: So does giving up over 300 yds passing a game.
: >
: >Sure it does. Outside of your obvious attempt to improve your seating
: >assignment upon the new Urination bandwagon once it arrives, ...as an
: >alleged knowledgeable football fan please tell us you were just kidding
: >because you know there is no significance to any 300 or 1000 yard passing
: >game if this results in a mere 7 points.
: >
: It is significant if your alleged team keeps allowing it, unless
: you live in the dream world of you'll get 7 turnovers every game.
I wasn't dreaming two Sundays ago though I fully understand why you prayed
that you were. How many times this season do you think Goodell is going to
let the Steelers play the Shehags anyway? They are after all the ONLY team
your steelers have beaten in 2011.
: Not
: to mention any knowledgeable fan would have understood my original
: comment wasn't a shot at your alleged favorite team. Thats what I get
: for clearing out the filters.
No... no... no... butters'. It was Johnny Carson that was famous for his
"mind reading" skills, ...not your's truly. Just say what you mean, and
mean what you say, ...because I'm not going to interprite for you. That is
exactly why they recognized the profitability of printing "Hooked On
Phonics - Urination Special Edition #6".
:: >Would you really go,
: >..."nanner - nanner - nanner, ...you may have shot and killed my boys,
but
: >they are going to bleed all over your custom floors?
:
: Why not, you're going nanner-nanner over beating us for the first
: time in 5 years where we don't start a 3rd or 4th string qb. It just
: took our starter playing like a 5th stringer to do it.
Look butters'... the Ravens didn't just beat your Steelers QB, they beat
down all those senior center bingo players like the toothless barking old
dogs that they are. And butters', we are talking the kind of beat down where
the line stops just shy of "attempted murder", "first degree assault", and
"1st degree perverted sex acts".
The Rooney-Tunes in fact were actually put right back on their plane to
sPlittburgh after they attempted to press charges against Ray-Ray and his
hit squad. Your players should have shut their mouths while they WERE AHEAD.
Instead they mouthed off and were humbled unmistakably by the Ravens. So cut
corners yourself by swallowing any additional shit you intend to talk.
--
~Drew
"Talk is cheap ...lets just play"
Johnny Unitas - Baltimore Colts
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TOPIC: lmao @ your hapless Colts - 4th and 2 bwahaha in yur ass bitch
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/702be5535ca7f01b?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 21 2011 3:59 pm
From: "R�vNsf�n �"
--
--
~Drew
"Talk is cheap ...lets just go play"
Johnny Unitas - Baltimore Colts
"Dean McEwen Jr" <STEELER_NATION@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:29393-4E772EF5-459@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net...
: Big Titans! lol You have accomplished making the Titans look better than
: they actually are... ya kno, like we did 4 you last week.
:
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TOPIC: Jets - Raiders prediction
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/e6b5d509749c97e1?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 21 2011 6:59 pm
From: Michael
The past few days I have read a number of *expert* commentators giving
their reasons why the Raiders will beat the Jets. I just watched the
Raiders-Bills replay on the NFL network. Given what I saw... There is
little to no chance that the Raiders will put up more than 17 points
on the Jets defense. Even an average defense can make the Jets
offense look bad at times, so I'll say that if the Jets offense can
manage 17 + points, the Raiders have little to no chance at beating
the Jets.
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