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alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets - 25 new messages in 14 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* Best Jet LB in team history ??? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/c613db9e923f88e6?hl=en
* Who Here Believes We Win Sunday Night? - 4 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/20b2079a5beb3b10?hl=en
* Just thought I'd mention - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/413b78a1842e534d?hl=en
* OT: The officials grew eyes ??? - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/ebf11137dc0a8e06?hl=en
* Maybin back with Jets to help pass rush - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/e04e18d4ca4b8e7c?hl=en
* OT: Eagles - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/1ce6ca19e9bd0c8c?hl=en
* OT: Cardinals HOZED by officials - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/1a4c2dd7c7294bf6?hl=en
* Chico Please Don't Eat Tamales Before A Game! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/aa2d12aad00ef624?hl=en
* This is going to be a long game... - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/6c10c693a84893ab?hl=en
* Silver lining? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/c26645dc337b2812?hl=en
* We Suck - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/76893ac33c2cb7c1?hl=en
* Rex Ryan is a child - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/e39fca600a3faa9d?hl=en
* I.C.E. is on the way to take the Mexican rapist into custody. - 1 messages,
1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/df897bf8d4f5e3f8?hl=en
* This game is on management... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/3f9c421b399bb25f?hl=en

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TOPIC: Best Jet LB in team history ???
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/c613db9e923f88e6?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 1 2011 11:54 pm
From: oldnasty@mindspring.com


On Saturday, October 1, 2011 10:48:00 PM UTC-4, Papa Carl wrote:
> "JKConey" <jkc...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:j68cdk$48s$1@dont-email.me...
> > "Papa Carl" wrote in message
> > news:P9idnQjiNOubFBrTnZ2dnUVZ_jSdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> >
> >
> > "JKConey" <jkc...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > news:j67tru$dmc$1@dont-email.me...
> >> "Michael" wrote in message
> >> news:c0548e81-8373-4b7a-866e-3f610d19017e@18g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
> >>
> >> Taking a quick break from the current Jets..
> >>
> >> Who's the best all around LB in Jets history ???
> >>
> >> 1. Grantham
> >> 2. Lance Mehl
> >> 3. Greg Buttle
> >> 4. Kyle Clifton
> >> 5. Mo Lewis
> >> 6. Davis Harris
> >> 7. Other
> >>
> >> I'm not sure... Grantham was before my time.. Do you see any one of
> >> those guys being the easy pick ???
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Grantham..... best on your list, by far, but even better was Al Atkinson.
> >> What about Mo Lewis?
> >>
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >
> > As I think I said before...I think Atkinson belongs on the list for
> > sure...maybe the best of them all.
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >
> >
> >
> > Glad you agree. I was too lazy to read all the replies.
> >
> >
> > -- JK Sinrod
> > www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com
>
> __________________________________________________________________________________
>
> Plus...he kept Namath from total self destruct mode. They roomed together.

Yes. By all accounts he was not just a first-class player but also a first-class person. Just what Namath needed as a roommate. I bet he could've written a book about being that -- and still could. Somebody pay him!

Those Jets are always remembered as a big offensive team but they had the best defense in the AFL. Ralph Baker, the third LB, was very good too.

The whole D was very innovative and aggressive with Walt Michaels and Buddy Ryan coaching them. Those were the days when it was really true that "offense sold tickets and defense won championships". Namath & Co got all the glory -- but the Colts got only a late 7 in SB III.

The misfortune of the D was that the offense fell apart after '69, so while it continued on at a top level for some time longer, because the team as a whole did poorly the D never got recognized for how good it was.

Lots of very good D players on that team never got the recognition they deserved. Atkinson is one. Philbin would be in the HoF if he'd played on team that had more than two good winning seasons. So would Winston Hill on the O ... but I digress.

The top O and top D overlapped for only two years in that Jets era, 68 and 69. Before then Namath and the O were lighting it up but the D couldn't stay with them. After then the D was still clamping 'em down, but the O fell into the crapper.

Then the D finally fell into the crapper and it was 25 years of misery.

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TOPIC: Who Here Believes We Win Sunday Night?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/20b2079a5beb3b10?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 2 2011 7:52 am
From: "RävNsfän ®"


Still Roper <mark_edwards_2000@yahoo.ca> wrote in news:c4fc32c7-6c3e-4780-
9f43-ab081bead0e3@j1g2000yqj.googlegroups.com:

> On Oct 1, 2:04 am, JetsLife <JetsL...@aol.com> wrote:
>> For all the nation to see?
>>
>> We did it once a couple weeks ago. Maybe my hope outstrips reality.
>>
>> What is reality, alas?
>>
>> Oh, that's right, it's what we make of it.
>>
>> Yes, I BELIEVE we will be victorious Sunday night!
>
> Because I'm drunk and because the NFL is so fucked up.
>
>
>
Drunk and stoopid is no way to go through life, still doper!

--
~Drew

"Talk is cheap ...lets just go play"
Johnny Unitas - Baltimore Colts

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 2 2011 8:11 am
From: Julio Sanchez


On Oct 1, 2:04 am, JetsLife <JetsL...@aol.com> wrote:
> For all the nation to see?
>
> We did it once a couple weeks ago. Maybe my hope outstrips reality.
>
> What is reality, alas?
>
> Oh, that's right, it's what we make of it.
>
> Yes, I BELIEVE we will be victorious Sunday night!

What's the big deal? The Ravens beat a mediocre Pitt team,
lost to a better but not great Tennessee team, and beat a bad
Rams team.

The Jets seem to go as Sanchez goes and are a pretty good
road team. They are probably embarrassed by last week.
I don't see why the Jets can't win handily unless Sanchez
has a bad game. This week, the ESPN pickers are all picking
Baltimore, but last week they all picked the Pats and look
what happened.

Julio


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 2 2011 1:56 pm
From: "RävNsfän ®"


Sorry you keep falling on your fat arse Butters', ...how is that headache ?
--
~Drew

"Talk is cheap ...lets just play"
Johnny Unitas - Baltimore Colts

"RävNsfän ®" <noemail@nospamme.org> wrote in message
news:j69tqm$mpk$2@speranza.aioe.org...
: Still Roper <mark_edwards_2000@yahoo.ca> wrote in news:c4fc32c7-6c3e-4780-
: 9f43-ab081bead0e3@j1g2000yqj.googlegroups.com:
:
: > On Oct 1, 2:04 am, JetsLife <JetsL...@aol.com> wrote:
: >> For all the nation to see?
: >>
: >> We did it once a couple weeks ago. Maybe my hope outstrips reality.
: >>
: >> What is reality, alas?
: >>
: >> Oh, that's right, it's what we make of it.
: >>
: >> Yes, I BELIEVE we will be victorious Sunday night!
: >
: > Because I'm drunk and because the NFL is so fucked up.
: >
: >
: >
: Drunk and stoopid is no way to go through life, still doper!
:
: --
: ~Drew
:
: "Talk is cheap ...lets just go play"
: Johnny Unitas - Baltimore Colts
:


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 2 2011 4:15 pm
From: "RävNsfän ®"


"Julio Sanchez" <hoolio3sanchez@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a50e1000-a411-4ced-a5d6-6946a170ac39@fx14g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 1, 2:04 am, JetsLife <JetsL...@aol.com> wrote:
> For all the nation to see?
>
> We did it once a couple weeks ago. Maybe my hope outstrips reality.
>
> What is reality, alas?
>
> Oh, that's right, it's what we make of it.
>
> Yes, I BELIEVE we will be victorious Sunday night!

What's the big deal? The Ravens beat a mediocre Pitt team,
lost to a better but not great Tennessee team, and beat a bad
Rams team.

The Jets seem to go as Sanchez goes and are a pretty good
road team.

The Ravens are a pretty good home team. Somewhere around 23-11 at home I
believe.

:They are probably embarrassed by last week.
:I don't see why the Jets can't win handily unless Sanchez
:has a bad game.

C'mon ...really? Whom do you think will have caused Sanchez to have a bad
game? The Jets defense is 31st over three games and not just from one bad
game. In fact IIRC, Sanchez had one of his better games last week and the
Jets still lost big-time to an inferior opponent. There are many reasons
against the Jets winning "handily", as you say. That stated, ...on any given
Sunday is an NFL fact.

: This week, the ESPN pickers are all picking
: Baltimore, but last week they all picked the Pats and look
: what happened.
: Julio

You missed something, ...they also picked the Ravens last week, ...and look
what happened. This is a Conference game with play-off implications toward
home field. That won't be overlooked by the Ravens any more than the Jets.

Got to cut this off to make kickoff so wish my Ravens luck and I'll check
back tomorrow to get or give the kudos. It will be too late when I return
home, considering the post-game victory party and all that.
--
~Drew

"Talk is cheap ...lets just play"
Johnny Unitas - Baltimore Colts

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TOPIC: Just thought I'd mention
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/413b78a1842e534d?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 2 2011 10:14 am
From: paddy_nyr


On Sep 30, 10:12 pm, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Do you realize that Suggs will be across from Hunter ??? And, unless
> Magold plays, Ngata will be across from an undrafred rookie
>
>
Not a pleasant thought.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 2 2011 4:22 pm
From: JetsLife


On Sep 30, 10:12 pm, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Do you realize that Suggs will be across from Hunter ??? And, unless
> Magold plays, Ngata will be across from an undrafred rookie

Losing Rob Turner was a huge blow to the depth of the offensive line.
IINM he'd be at center tonight if Mangold can't go. I have a funny
feeling tho Mangold will be starting.

As for Hunter vs. T-Sizzle: we'll see what Hunter's made of. Hunter is
an experienced talented vet but newer as a front-line starter. He's
got the tools and fire ... we'll see what happens tonight.

Ngata is Ngata. We'll see how the Jets manage him.

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TOPIC: OT: The officials grew eyes ???
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/ebf11137dc0a8e06?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 2 2011 11:38 am
From: Michael


I'm watching the Texans vs. Steelers over here... At the end of the
half, the Texans blocked a Steelers FG attempt and one of Texans ran
it back for a would-be TD. There was a block in the back that was
called against the Texans. The TD was called back and the half was
over... Incidentally, that block in the back was no where near the guy
running the ball back for the Texans... None the less... Rules are
rules...

During the Steelers vs. Cardinals super bowl game, at the end of the
half, a Pittsburg defender picked off a pass from Warner and ran it in
for a "heroic" Steelers TD. The half ended. On that Steelers TD run
back in the Superbowl, a flagrant block in the back was made against
one of the Cardinals during the TD run back. This block in the back
was an instrumental part of the play and was quite visible. Too bad
for the Cardinals the officials didn't feel like calling that sort of
thing at the time. That TD that was given to the Steelers was a
difference maker for the Steelers. Withot those points, they lose the
Superbowl.

Too bad for the Texans, only the Steelers get such great "favors" from
the officials.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 2 2011 12:13 pm
From: Michael


On Oct 2, 2:38 pm, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> I'm watching the Texans vs. Steelers over here... At the end of the
> half, the Texans blocked a Steelers FG attempt and one of Texans ran
> it back for a would-be TD.  There was a block in the back that was
> called against the Texans. The TD was called back and the half was
> over... Incidentally, that block in the back was no where near the guy
> running the ball back for the Texans... None the less... Rules are
> rules...
>
> During the Steelers vs. Cardinals super bowl game, at the end of the
> half, a Pittsburg defender picked off a pass from Warner and ran it in
> for a "heroic" Steelers TD.   The half ended.  On that Steelers TD run
> back in the Superbowl, a flagrant block in the back was made against
> one of the Cardinals during the TD run back.  This block in the back
> was an instrumental part of the play and was quite visible.  Too bad
> for the Cardinals the officials didn't feel like calling that sort of
> thing at the time.  That TD that was given to the Steelers was a
> difference maker for the Steelers.  Withot those points, they lose the
> Superbowl.
>
> Too bad for the Texans, only the Steelers get such great "favors" from
> the officials.
Y
As I expected, the Steelers were going to come out after half time and
start taking over the game with help from the officials NOT calling
any holds. Number 79 on the left side of the steelets line has been
grabbing on to defenders with both hands and holding the shoulder
pads. # 66 was flipping bear hugging his guy... the Steelers are
running better because they are using their usual secret weapon....
the officials


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 2 2011 1:49 pm
From: "R�vNsf�n �"


"Michael" <mjd1966@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:b8c0ebc7-2583-49e7-847f-3d0a4c3265a3@n15g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
: I'm watching the Texans vs. Steelers over here... At the end of the
: half, the Texans blocked a Steelers FG attempt and one of Texans ran
: it back for a would-be TD. There was a block in the back that was
: called against the Texans. The TD was called back and the half was
: over... Incidentally, that block in the back was no where near the guy
: running the ball back for the Texans... None the less... Rules are
: rules...

Actually there was another BITB closer to the returner and performed seconds
after the first. I'm going to guess that the second may have drawn the flag.


: During the Steelers vs. Cardinals super bowl game, at the end of the
: half, a Pittsburg defender picked off a pass from Warner and ran it in
: for a "heroic" Steelers TD. The half ended. On that Steelers TD run
: back in the Superbowl, a flagrant block in the back was made against
: one of the Cardinals during the TD run back. This block in the back
: was an instrumental part of the play and was quite visible. Too bad
: for the Cardinals the officials didn't feel like calling that sort of
: thing at the time. That TD that was given to the Steelers was a
: difference maker for the Steelers. Withot those points, they lose the
: Superbowl.
:
: Too bad for the Texans, only the Steelers get such great "favors" from
: the officials.

--
Fortunately the Texans found it within themselves to overcome those bad
calls that were made. I'm still waiting to find out which Texans defender
made the "illegal contact" foul where Ben was sacked on a third and long in
the first half.

I see Ward had the smile knocked off his face again <snicker>. He was going
to drop the ball anyway, ...but awesome regardless.
--
~Drew

"Talk is cheap ...lets just go play"
Johnny Unitas - Baltimore Colts

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TOPIC: Maybin back with Jets to help pass rush
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/e04e18d4ca4b8e7c?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 2 2011 12:32 pm
From: Michael


On Sep 30, 8:50 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Johnny Morongo" <Moro...@Burf.com> wrote in message
>
> news:j65gn0$3ia$1@dont-email.me...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 9/30/2011 10:57 AM, John C TX wrote:
> >> On Sep 30, 11:26 am, Johnny Morongo<Moro...@Burf.com>  wrote:
> >>> On 9/30/2011 6:13 AM, John C TX wrote:
>
> >>>> On Sep 29, 8:00 pm, buRford<buRf...@buR.ford.com>    wrote:
> >>>>> On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:57:13 -0700 (PDT), John C
> >>>>> TX<johnctxj...@gmail.com>    wrote:
>
> >>>>>> X-No-Archive: Yes
> >>>>>>> Is this a desperate/panic move ? Are things that bad that they have
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> resign a guy they cut and no one picked up?
>
> >>>>>>> I would imagine he's brought in more for his speed than his pass
> >>>>>>> rushing ability.
>
> >>>>>>>http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets/maybin_back_with_jets_to_shore_up...
>
> >>>>>> Maybe to light a fire up Westerman or maybe Westerman is that bad.
>
> >>>>> I've never understood the love-affair with Westerman.  What's he ever
> >>>>> done?
> >>>>> Maybin has the speed,&    in the short time he was here, he showed
> >>>>> little flashes.
> >>>>> His problem is his size... he needs to add bulk to really be a LB.
> >>>>> I always thought he might be interesting at safety ;)
>
> >>>> At 240 he is small&    I know you are joking but someone has to make up
> >>>> Coleman's&    Lowery's sacks.
>
> >>> You know, from the little I saw of him he looked to me to have the speed
> >>> of a safety.
>
> >> He did get  back there.  Does he look better playing with 1st string
> >> vs 1st string?
>
> > I don't know, but couldn't you use him as a cover safety, especially as
> > neither Smith or Leonard are known for their cover speed?
>
> ___________________________________________________________________________ ____________________
> I have seen quite a number of times when some kid who was a serious track
> star came out for football...couldn't catch real good so they made him a D
> back...and found he couldn't find the ball or follow it either...Maybin
> should have more football skills that that...but speed will not make him the
> cover guy...now, if he was a good basketball player and fast...and he can
> hit...we are really into something.

During the preseason, maybin looked so fast and effective, I was
wondering if the jets hit pay dirt. Since he was not retained, I
gathered that he was not capable of doing anything at practice vs the
jets top of the line guys. Probably his lack of size and inability to
handle contact vs a guy that had a good pro skill set was obvious at
practice. Very much like clowney. Looks great but only vs scrubs. I'd
guess that is why maybin was let go. He can't do anything vs Bona
fied pros. Now I'm wondering why he was resigned. No way would they
have let him go in the first place if he was able to perform vs first
string talent. I think the resigning represents desperation.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 2 2011 4:47 pm
From: "Papa Carl"

"Michael" <mjd1966@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:b16074f6-8e49-4e02-91a6-49ff7ec29c5d@c1g2000yql.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 30, 8:50 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Johnny Morongo" <Moro...@Burf.com> wrote in message
>
> news:j65gn0$3ia$1@dont-email.me...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 9/30/2011 10:57 AM, John C TX wrote:
> >> On Sep 30, 11:26 am, Johnny Morongo<Moro...@Burf.com> wrote:
> >>> On 9/30/2011 6:13 AM, John C TX wrote:
>
> >>>> On Sep 29, 8:00 pm, buRford<buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:57:13 -0700 (PDT), John C
> >>>>> TX<johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> X-No-Archive: Yes
> >>>>>>> Is this a desperate/panic move ? Are things that bad that they
> >>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> resign a guy they cut and no one picked up?
>
> >>>>>>> I would imagine he's brought in more for his speed than his pass
> >>>>>>> rushing ability.
>
> >>>>>>>http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets/maybin_back_with_jets_to_shore_up...
>
> >>>>>> Maybe to light a fire up Westerman or maybe Westerman is that bad.
>
> >>>>> I've never understood the love-affair with Westerman. What's he ever
> >>>>> done?
> >>>>> Maybin has the speed,& in the short time he was here, he showed
> >>>>> little flashes.
> >>>>> His problem is his size... he needs to add bulk to really be a LB.
> >>>>> I always thought he might be interesting at safety ;)
>
> >>>> At 240 he is small& I know you are joking but someone has to make up
> >>>> Coleman's& Lowery's sacks.
>
> >>> You know, from the little I saw of him he looked to me to have the
> >>> speed
> >>> of a safety.
>
> >> He did get back there. Does he look better playing with 1st string
> >> vs 1st string?
>
> > I don't know, but couldn't you use him as a cover safety, especially as
> > neither Smith or Leonard are known for their cover speed?
>
> ___________________________________________________________________________
> ____________________
> I have seen quite a number of times when some kid who was a serious track
> star came out for football...couldn't catch real good so they made him a D
> back...and found he couldn't find the ball or follow it either...Maybin
> should have more football skills that that...but speed will not make him
> the
> cover guy...now, if he was a good basketball player and fast...and he can
> hit...we are really into something.

During the preseason, maybin looked so fast and effective, I was
wondering if the jets hit pay dirt. Since he was not retained, I
gathered that he was not capable of doing anything at practice vs the
jets top of the line guys. Probably his lack of size and inability to
handle contact vs a guy that had a good pro skill set was obvious at
practice. Very much like clowney. Looks great but only vs scrubs. I'd
guess that is why maybin was let go. He can't do anything vs Bona
fied pros. Now I'm wondering why he was resigned. No way would they
have let him go in the first place if he was able to perform vs first
string talent. I think the resigning represents desperation.
____________________________________________________________________________________________________

They've been building this team from the outside in....with high skill
position players and no foundation....they are desparate.

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TOPIC: OT: Eagles
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/1ce6ca19e9bd0c8c?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 2 2011 4:47 pm
From: "WaterBoy"


How bad do they look right now? I wonder if this trend will continue all
season for the Eagles...One can only hope!

WaterBoy

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 2 2011 4:51 pm
From: "Papa Carl"

"WaterBoy" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:HaWdnR37ntexZRXTnZ2dnUVZ_vCdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> How bad do they look right now? I wonder if this trend will continue all
> season for the Eagles...One can only hope!
>
> WaterBoy

Like another team I know, they built it around all skill players...QB,
receivers etc...no meat, no potatoes...no line. Vick damn well better go
back to scrambling all the time.


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 2 2011 4:54 pm
From: Michael


On Oct 2, 7:47 pm, "WaterBoy" <some...@somewhere.com> wrote:
> How bad do they look right now? I wonder if this trend will continue all
> season for the Eagles...One can only hope!
>
> WaterBoy

As I said in my predictions before the season started... Eagles fans
in for a big let down.

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TOPIC: OT: Cardinals HOZED by officials
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 2 2011 5:04 pm
From: Michael


Good grief... The officials had it in for the Cardinals today. They
gave the game to the Giants. A Hand full of VERY bad calls in favor of
the Giants who were outplayed. Worst of all was the 'he gave himself
up call'. A Giants wr made a football move, went down, was not
touched and then he spilled the ball on the turf while it was still
live. A Cards defender picked up the live ball, but the officials had
decided that the play waover, even though it wasn't. That horrendous
call gave the game to an undeserving team.

Nice job Giants. A GARBAGE win fit for a GARBAGE team.

See you chumps in December.

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TOPIC: Chico Please Don't Eat Tamales Before A Game!
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 2 2011 6:08 pm
From: "mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu"


They make your hands greasy and the ball slippery!!

mr dude

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TOPIC: This is going to be a long game...
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 2 2011 6:14 pm
From: Hammer


...


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 2 2011 6:42 pm
From: Percy Flage


On 03/10/2011 02:14, Hammer wrote:
> ...

... or worse, a really short one.

All over by the half.

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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 2 2011 6:46 pm
From: BruceEdwards


On Oct 2, 9:42 pm, Percy Flage
<percy.flage_REM@OVE_ianwhitephoto.co.uk> wrote:
> On 03/10/2011 02:14, Hammer wrote:
>
> > ...
>
> ... or worse, a really short one.
>
> All over by the half.
>
> --
> Percy Flage
> "Life is too short to have to explain everyday."

*********************
What a joke! is Rich Kotite wearing a Rex Ryan mask? This won't just
be a looooooong game. It will be a very long and losing season. We
lost too many good players as a result of the lockout. We miss the
backup tight end Ben Hartstock who could really block. Of course, we
have no pure pass rusher. Rex needs tone down the bluster.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 2 2011 6:53 pm
From: Percy Flage


This train wreck should expedite Schotty's departure.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 2 2011 7:06 pm
From: ohboy


We scored. We still suck.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 2 2011 7:04 pm
From: Antonio Veranos


Scenario, in order:

A: Ravens hit Sanchez, forcing a fumble for TD.

B: Play is reviewed, with confirmation that Sanchez fumbled.

C: During the Ravens extra point, the Jets call a timeout specifically
so that Rex Ryan can whine at the referee.

Like father, like son, I guess...

--
Antonio Veranos

<insert witty comment here>

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 2 2011 7:04 pm
From: "El Spico"


Throw his no good Mexican ass back over the border.


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 2 2011 7:09 pm
From: buRford


Very simply, they chose to go with what they had, rather than trying to improve the OL.
We all knew they had a problem at RT, and a big lack of depth.
So, once we lost Robert Turner, then Mangold, we've gotten exactly what would've been
expected.
And in the process, they're gonna get Sanchez killed.

On the D side, we're having the exact same problems as last season, a lack of
pass-coverage, in the middle of the field... and a weak pass-rush.

And lastly, they have an offense that is totally predictable. It often looks like
opposing defenses are in the huddle. They decided to stand-pat with the same OC, and
again, they got what would be expected. He has no clue how to adjust to what defenses
throw at him.

This is on management for going for imaginary players (Aso), & ignoring weaknesses they
needed to address.

The only hope, is that the players are tough pros, and will not quit.
So, maybe this can turn into a game, if the Ravens let-up a bit... a natural human
reaction to totally dominating an opponent.


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Montek Singh meets PM on poverty line, to make statement tomorrow
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Kalyan Ray,New Delhi,Oct 1, DHNS:

In what can emerge as a fresh public health challenge, literate young
men in southern India are increasingly getting involved in high-risk
activity of having sex with men without protection, making them
vulnerable to HIV/AIDS.

Though there is barely any reliable statistics available on the MSM
(Men having Sex with Men) prevalence, as many as 8,615 members of the
MSM community were interviewed in a new behavioural survey carried out
in 15 districts of Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka, Maharashtra and Tamil
Nadu.

In majority of the districts, HIV prevalence ranged from 5 to 30 per
cent among high risk men while prevalence of other sexual diseases in
the same community vary from 2 to 20 per cent.

The researchers claimed that actual numbers of the MSM population
could be more because it was "representative sample", which means only
about 700 MSM people from each districts were interviewed for the
study conducted between 2006 and 2010. The scientists took care to
ensure that the same person is not interviewed twice.

The average age of MSM members vary between 24 and 30. Most of them —
between 70 and 90 per cent — can read and write, and almost one-third
of them are married. But a very few are circumcised, which has a
protective effect against HIV.

The estimates of Indian MSM population vary drastically. While the
National AIDS Control Organisation claims it could be 3.5 lakh, the
UNAIDS has put the figure at 400,000.

"Its difficult to reach out to that population and map them. There is
no enumeration. The study has representative samples to highlight
their high-risk behaviour," Ramesh Paranjape, director of National
AIDS Research Institute, Pune, told Deccan Herald.

NARI along with four other institutes under Indian Council of Medical
Research, Avahan — Indian HIV/AIDS unit of Bill and Melinda Gates
Foundation — Karnataka Health Promotion Trust and non-governmental
outfit FHI 360 carried out the behavioural study.

It reached out to the MSM community in four Karnataka districts —
Bangalore (Urban), Belgaum, Bellary and Shimoga.

The report shows that barring three districts — East Godavari and
Vizag in Andhra Pradesh and Pune in Maharashtra — everywhere else a
significant chunk of the MSM community did not use condom in their
last sexual activity primarily because the partner did not want it and
non-availability of condoms. In certain cases, cost also plays a role
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Sunday 2 October 2011

''Better economic relations will help both.''

Talks between trade and commerce ministers of India and Pakistan,
Anand Sharma and Makhdoom Amin Fahim, held in New Delhi this week, has
made progress in some areas, though some outstanding issues still
remain to be acted upon. Official level talks in April had prepared
the ground for a meeting of ministers. Apart from the talks, the
engagement included interaction between large business delegations of
both countries.

The entire programme has underlined the importance both countries have
attached to the need to improve mutual trade and business relations.
Though this should have been the priority for the two neighbours,
politics has affected the growth of commerce. That still is the case
but there seems to be an effort to give more importance to trade and
economic relations than in the past.

The ministers have set an ambitious target of more than doubling the
trade volume from last year's $ 2.3 billion to $ 6 billion by 2015. If
normal trade channels are established this is easily achievable
because the unofficial trade, through other countries and by illegal
means, is much more than what the official figures suggest.

The steps announced after the talks, which include liberalisation of
the business visa regime, lifting of the ban on bilateral investment,
implementation of the South Asia Free Trade Agreement (Safta) norms
and improving customs facilities, will help to increase trade volumes.
There is a move to open branches of Indian banks in Pakistan and for
Pakistani banks to open their branches in India. Pakistan will also
lift the curbs on petroleum imports from India. India did well to
announce that it would not oppose the European Union's three-year
tariff waiver for commodities from Pakistan, especially those from the
areas affected by floods.

This was a major goodwill gesture.

A major disappointment was the failure of Pakistan to grant the Most
Favoured Nation (MFN) status to India. India granted Pakistan the
status in 1995 and has ever since been expecting Pakistan to
reciprocate the measure. Though there have been reports that Pakistan
has finally decided to do so, it seems to be still worried that its
economy would be adversely affected by increased Indian imports. This
is a wrong apprehension because improved trade and integration of
economies will only benefit both countries. Better economic relations
will also help to promote political ties.

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How many Slams would Sampras have won if Fed had been in the same era? - 20
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...Ok, but did Fed & Safin beat Sampras in Wimbledon finals? - Sat, Oct 1 2011
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On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 22:10:53 -0700 (PDT), Joe Ramirez ...do the dead have to
pay taxes joe? bob - Sat, Oct 1 2011 5:42 am
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The Don: From Princess to Fighter - 1 new
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On Sat, 1 Oct 2011 13:02:33 +0100, "grif" <griffin_...@hotmail.com> wrote: ...
Yes, quite a change from being the joke of the Tour. - Sat, Oct 1 2011 6:00 am

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Felangey - Do Agassi's results between 2003-2005 count ? - 12 new
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On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 19:43:21 -0700 (PDT), John Liang ...maybe - and he'd
likely have the same success doing it as sampras had at FO. bob - Sat, Oct 1
2011 6:11 am
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Birdman breaks up with Safarova - 5 new
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On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 23:00:32 -0700 (PDT), Court_1 ...all of that is well and
good, just don't continually preach how "independent" you are while doing this
pls. some other women actually have to make it on their own and they are more
qualified to speak on the subject. bob - Sat, Oct 1 2011 6:18 am
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..."..point to his head and shrug." I do that sometimes too, but not for the
same reason. - Sat, Oct 1 2011 6:55 am
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tsonga photoshop thread at fark.com - 1 new
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A lot will probably be fark.com inside jokes, but there's bound to he a couple
good ones: [link] - Sat, Oct 1 2011 8:37 am
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...Old news... ...[sorry, couldn't resist] P - Sat, Oct 1 2011 10:00 am
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Zvonereva a counter puncher? - 1 new
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...Why even watch the match it funny without the sisters or Belgium women
tennis just does have the name power need to excite people - Sat, Oct 1 2011
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One player to win it for us - 2 new
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...what about mac - Sat, Oct 1 2011 12:02 pm
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"FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer" ...Only $75K? Only a moron would try to get away
with only paying the going Democrat rate for a Republican. - Sat, Oct 1 2011
12:28 pm
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Del Potro - 1 new
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Many here have had to re-assess their outlook for DelPo since he sustained his
wrist injury and subsequent surgery. To my mind, a bright promising tennis
career has been severely compromised. Witness the dearth of Del Po posts here (
rst being the ultimate barometer of a player's success). :) So here's my
hypothetical. - Sat, Oct 1 2011 4:32 pm
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New ATP profile pics are out - 2 new
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[link] Rog has the best photo for sure~~ murray is trying to smile, nole is
lame, soderling and ferrer are cute, ogre is f-ing ugly~~ - Sat, Oct 1 2011 6:
57 pm
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Every musical dollar comes to me - 1 new
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Your cash and checks are worthless anyway, but I take it as a favor to you. My
only standard form is gold, and silver. Shall ye delete your entire rock and
roll collections for the good of the Wereo. - Sat, Oct 1 2011 6:55 pm
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Murray seems to have the giggles - 1 new
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...No I dont think Murray goes through highs or lows just plan boring all the
way - Sat, Oct 1 2011 8:51 pm
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The five most exciting players to watch - 5 new
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[link] - Sat, Oct 1 2011 10:10 pm
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