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Attached, Antiphospholipid syndrome: a comprehensive review of a complex and multisystemic disease


2011/11/9 Pedro Aguilar Salinas <pietro_03@hotmail.com>

Hi everybody! anyone could help me with this article urgently!!!


THANKS A LOT!! 

Clin Exp Rheumatol. 2009 Jul-Aug;27(4):668-77.

Antiphospholipid syndrome: a comprehensive review of a complex and multisystemic disease.

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[socialactionfoundationforequity:14453 Domestic Violence has driven over 780,000 Married Men to suicide!

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Press release on "RIGHT TO LIFE for men" campaign

Domestic Violence has driven over 780,000 Married Men to suicide!

Protest against the Unconstitutional Domestic Violence Act

At Shri. Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar statue, RBI square, opp. Vidhansabha

on 6th November 2011 from 11.00 AM to 3.00 PM

The insanity, unconstitutionality and the male hatred inherent in the
marital laws of India is no longer a new thing. It is a well known
fact that there is a dire need for a drastic rationalization and de-
genderization of the marital laws in India.

India, is one of the first countries to have a non-bailable,
cognizable and non-compoundable criminal offense for marriage breaking
which is not only inter-gender discriminatory but also intra-gender
discriminatory. It's the highly controversial, draconian and inhuman
law of the Indian Penal Code – the IPC Section 498A. This law
considers husband and his family as"Guilty until Proven Innocent" and
is a very facilitating "tool of arrest on demand" since 1983.

This law has been responsible for the arrest of millions of innocent
citizens of India including husbands, mothers, fathers and siblings of
husbands, octogenarians, infants and has also abetted the suicides of
a few million people ever since its inception.

As if, all this wasn't enough, the Govt. of India was benevolent
enough to introduce another gender biased piece of legislation – "The
Protection of Women from Domestic Violence Act". As the name suggests,
it is applicable only to women. But, to be specific, to married women
all wives only!

Married Indian Males are losing the most fundamental right of all, THE
"RIGHT TO LIFE". It is not at all uncommon to see people laughing
whenever a married men tries to express his problems or says that his
spouse and in – laws are torturing him. The audience might find it
funny but it is a sad reality for those 61453 married men who were
driven to take their own lives in 2010 being unable to bear the
torture and lakhs more such who continue to live an abused life
without even a semblance of acceptance of abuse. This was as per the
data presented by the National Crime Records Bureau(NCRB), Home
Ministry report released by Hon'ble Union Home Minister P. Chidambaram
on Thursday, the 27th of October 2011.

According to statistics released by the Ministry of Home Affairs, in
the last fifteen years (1995 - 2010) over 776812 married men have been
claimed by rampant domestic violence against them. In a shocking
revelation of suicide statistics for the year 2010 reveals that once
again almost double the number of married men have committed suicide
in comparison to married women as the report attached here
corroborates. The rate at which the suicide rates of married men are
increasing from 1995 according to the govt reports (See Annexure ) is
truly astounding. The figures for a last few years also are equally
concerning.

National Crime Records Bureau – Ministry of Home Affairs Suicide
Statistics

Year Married Men Married Women

2010 61453 31754
2009 57639 30224
2008 58192 31300
2007 57593 30064

SIFF attributes the tremendous increase in suicides of Indian married
males to the complete lack of understanding and unavailability of
remedies on the issue of domestic violence against men in India.

SIFF research has shown that while international studies world over
have proved that both men and women are equally likely to be victims
of domestic violence, in India a male facing domestic violence has
almost nowhere to look for help. The Indian courts have passed little
relief and very recently one of the most prominent Indian High courts
apathetically observed, "Though men are victims of violence, such
incidences are few and far between, thus ruling out the possibility of
protection from the parliament", while dismissing a petition
challenging the constitutionality of the Domestic Violence Act as it
violates Article 14 of the Indian Constitution.

The DV Act, as it is affectionately called by its victims – the
Harassed Husbands – has many a weapons to destroy husband and his
family. Some of them are listed here

It has provisions for ordering interim maintenance over and above that
ordered in Section 125 CrPC (Refer Section 20(d) of the Act) –
inbuilt violation of the principle of "Double Jeopardy".
It has provisions for ordering a husband to refrain from entering his
own house.
It has provisions for ordering a father to stay away from his own
children – inbuilt formula to create a fatherless society that can
result in more crime in the society.
It has provisions to jail a husband on mere statement by wife (Refer
section 31 and 32 of the Act) – inbuilt violation of Articles 20, 21
and 22 of the Indian Constitution that jointly provide the "Right to
Fair and Free Trial" to any citizen of India. This single provision
renders the Act as unconstitutional and liable to be scrapped,
provided there is willingness in the Indian Govt. to do so.
It has provisions for a case under Section 498A to be filed – this
defies the very argument with which the Act was filed. It was told by
the feminists that since 498A cases are taking very long time to
finish, we should have a civil law and now this very civil law has a
secret tunnel leading back to the same Section 498A. This clearly
shows the moral bankruptcy of the feminists and intellectual
bankruptcy of the lawmakers declaring either of them ineligible to
propose or formulate any laws.
There is no proper definition of offense in the Act and a mere reading
of the Act makes the very institution of marriage as the onset of
Domestic Violence on a wife as if husbands have no other job in life
but to beat their wives.
This Act is very dangerous for husbands and there is a dire need to
protest against it and urge the Indian Govt. to repeal the Act.

Psychologists and Social workers are also equally to be blamed for
this carnage since they fail to understand the issue of Domestic
violence on men and shockingly even after their deaths they term those
men to be weak and irresponsible. It becomes imperative to mention
here that the peculiar feature of domestic violence against men is its
total lack of social acceptance let alone extending any kind of
support to its victims. Finding no helping hand from the society,
government or the media, these male victims have no option left but to
commit suicide.
Indian males demand their "Right to Life" back

The responsibility of these self annihilated innocent male lives
ultimately rests with the Government. The Government cannot simply
shake its hands off this responsibility and pass off these suicides as
being due to 'financial reasons'. Whereas in reality, as per the
analysis of NCRB itself (a Govt. body), the contribution of "financial
reasons" to suicide lies low at a meager 2%. INSAAF strongly
recommends that the Indian government should stop neglecting the
suicides of Indian Married males and allocate adequate budget to
spread awareness of domestic violence on men and provide adequate
redress mechanisms at the social and legal levels so that lakhs of
innocent men who can be still be saved can claim back their "right to
life"

SIFF "Right to Life" Campaign

The yearlong "Right to Life" campaign for Indian men will be
officially inaugurated on International Men's Day ( IMD) on November
19th 2011 . As part of this campaign INSAAF plans to

Provide free counselling to married men facing emotional,
physiological, physical or financial violence at the hands of their
spouses or in-laws.
Spread awareness in the society and media on the issue of Domestic
Violence on men
Conduct seminars for the judiciary and legislature with the intention
of creating effective redressal mechanism for male victims.
Provide the framework for the creation of a Protection of Men from
Domestic Violence act ( PMDVA).

About SIFF : INSAAF is an international think tank specializing in
social and gender research. Consisting entirely of intelligentsia
possessing vast collective expertise in advancing social reform,
legislative consultation and advisory research this Non Governmental
Organization (NGO) has branches both the United States and in India.
We have presented our research in front of various standing committees
of government and provided credible data and unbiased factual research
on various legislative issues some of which are Lokpal Bill, Civil
Nuclear Liability Bill, Judicial Accountability Bill and Sexual
harassment at workplace bill.

Supported by: INSAAF Save Indian Family Foundation, Save Family
Foundation Delhi, All India Men's Welfare Association, Association for
International Men's Rights Activism

http://www.saveindianfamily.org,http://savefamily.org

Rajesh Vakharia created the doc: "Press release on "RIGHT TO LIFE for
men" campaign Protest against the Unconstitutional Domestic Violence
Act At Shri. Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar statue, RBI square, opp.
Vidhansabha on 6th November 2011 from 11.00 AM to 3.00 PM"

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* Down Goes Frasier!! Down Goes Frasier!!! - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Penn State sex scandal - 21 messages, 7 authors
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* Canadian Loch Ness Monster Filmed!! Probably By Cloud Screamer - 1 messages,
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TOPIC: Down Goes Frasier!! Down Goes Frasier!!!
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 7 2011 8:34 pm
From: "mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu"


Pretty sure he ain't getting up this time.

mr dude (if you peeps only knew how long I have waited to post this -
next to Abe Vigoda of course)

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Penn State sex scandal
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ne-patriots/t/fc4be8f116f97b0b?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 21 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 8 2011 3:23 am
From: Ritchie


On Nov 7, 6:20 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Ritchie" <ritchie1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:aa2f68bd-143b-425c-b213-a8df87dcf186@h5g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 7, 5:07 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > why didn't one of these football players just punch the guy and say "keep
> > your paws off me you fucking pervert" these weren't HS students but D1
> > football players. , they are rather big dudes.
>
> > the most disgusting thing though is how all the reporters are rearing up
> > on
> > their hind legs and pontificating about a story they know little of.
>
> The victims were children as young as 8 and 10 years old. Maybe you
> should inform yourself before making a comment.
>
> ======================================================================
>
> the reports said football players at Penn State. they don't have 10 year old
> players, blame the reports

Not one report that I have heard or read has mentioned football
players! Admit that you spoke without any knowledge, you assumed and
you were wrong. Be a bigger man.


== 2 of 21 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 8 2011 6:47 am
From: "Ray O'Hara"

<Deadmeat> wrote in message
news:4eb8691e$0$21184$c3e8da3$e408f015@news.astraweb.com...
> On 11/7/2011 6:20 PM, Ray O'Hara wrote:
>> "Ritchie"<ritchie1965@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:aa2f68bd-143b-425c-b213-a8df87dcf186@h5g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>> On Nov 7, 5:07 pm, "Ray O'Hara"<raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> why didn't one of these football players just punch the guy and say
>>> "keep
>>> your paws off me you fucking pervert" these weren't HS students but D1
>>> football players. , they are rather big dudes.
>>>
>>> the most disgusting thing though is how all the reporters are rearing up
>>> on
>>> their hind legs and pontificating about a story they know little of.
>>
>> The victims were children as young as 8 and 10 years old. Maybe you
>> should inform yourself before making a comment.
>>
>> ======================================================================
>>
>> the reports said football players at Penn State. they don't have 10 year
>> old
>> players, blame the reports
>>
>>
> I've been hearing about this story since today's Mike and Mike in the
> morning. Not one of the reports says football players, they all say kids.


and Peter Vescey in the NY Timwes states Sandusky is charged with 40 counts
of abusing boys OVER 15. and doing so in the Penn State showes

so ASSHOLE why would he be charged with that if they were kids 8-10? and why
would kids be in the Penn State showes

It seems you are the misinformed ASSHOLE


== 3 of 21 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 8 2011 6:47 am
From: "Ray O'Hara"

"Ritchie" <ritchie1965@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:aa2f68bd-143b-425c-b213-a8df87dcf186@h5g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 7, 5:07 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> why didn't one of these football players just punch the guy and say "keep
> your paws off me you fucking pervert" these weren't HS students but D1
> football players. , they are rather big dudes.
>
> the most disgusting thing though is how all the reporters are rearing up
> on
> their hind legs and pontificating about a story they know little of.

The victims were children as young as 8 and 10 years old. Maybe you
should inform yourself before making a comment.

====================================================================


and Peter Vescey in the NY Timwes states Sandusky is charged with 40 counts
of abusing boys OVER 15. and doing so in the Penn State showes

so ASSHOLE why would he be charged with that if they were kids 8-10? and why
would kids be in the Penn State showes

It seems you are the misinformed ASSHOLE


== 4 of 21 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 8 2011 6:48 am
From: "Ray O'Hara"

"yoyodog" <connarchNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:j9a3ko$t37$1@news.datemas.de...
>
>
> "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-ohara@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:j99p3t$rti$1@dont-email.me...
>>
>> "Ritchie" <ritchie1965@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:aa2f68bd-143b-425c-b213-a8df87dcf186@h5g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>> On Nov 7, 5:07 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> why didn't one of these football players just punch the guy and say
>>> "keep
>>> your paws off me you fucking pervert" these weren't HS students but D1
>>> football players. , they are rather big dudes.
>>>
>>> the most disgusting thing though is how all the reporters are rearing up
>>> on
>>> their hind legs and pontificating about a story they know little of.
>>
>> The victims were children as young as 8 and 10 years old. Maybe you
>> should inform yourself before making a comment.
>>
>> ======================================================================
>>
>> the reports said football players at Penn State. they don't have 10 year
>> old players, blame the reports
>>
>
> That is one lame ass pathetic excuse for not knowing the story. Not a
> single story mentioned football players, unless you are reading someone
> else's wrong and pathetic excuse for facts from some blog or something.
> Just admit you didn't know and move on...


it seems I'm right

40 counts of abusing boys 0VER 15\


== 5 of 21 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 8 2011 6:49 am
From: "Ray O'Hara"

"Ritchie" <ritchie1965@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:05cc16a3-ece1-4964-8fcf-3d301b558358@h24g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 7, 6:20 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Ritchie" <ritchie1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:aa2f68bd-143b-425c-b213-a8df87dcf186@h5g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 7, 5:07 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > why didn't one of these football players just punch the guy and say
> > "keep
> > your paws off me you fucking pervert" these weren't HS students but D1
> > football players. , they are rather big dudes.
>
> > the most disgusting thing though is how all the reporters are rearing up
> > on
> > their hind legs and pontificating about a story they know little of.
>
> The victims were children as young as 8 and 10 years old. Maybe you
> should inform yourself before making a comment.
>
> ======================================================================
>
> the reports said football players at Penn State. they don't have 10 year
> old
> players, blame the reports

Not one report that I have heard or read has mentioned football
players! Admit that you spoke without any knowledge, you assumed and
you were wrong. Be a bigger man.


===============================================================


and Peter Vescey in the NY Timwes states Sandusky is charged with 40 counts
of abusing boys OVER 15. and doing so in the Penn State showes

so ASSHOLE why would he be charged with that if they were kids 8-10? and why
would kids be in the Penn State showes

It seems you are the misinformed ASSHOLE


== 6 of 21 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 8 2011 6:55 am
From: "yoyodog"


"Ray O'Hara" <raymond-ohara@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:j9bfdn$3qn$1@dont-email.me...
>
> <Deadmeat> wrote in message
> news:4eb8691e$0$21184$c3e8da3$e408f015@news.astraweb.com...
>> On 11/7/2011 6:20 PM, Ray O'Hara wrote:
>>> "Ritchie"<ritchie1965@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:aa2f68bd-143b-425c-b213-a8df87dcf186@h5g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Nov 7, 5:07 pm, "Ray O'Hara"<raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> why didn't one of these football players just punch the guy and say
>>>> "keep
>>>> your paws off me you fucking pervert" these weren't HS students but D1
>>>> football players. , they are rather big dudes.
>>>>
>>>> the most disgusting thing though is how all the reporters are rearing
>>>> up
>>>> on
>>>> their hind legs and pontificating about a story they know little of.
>>>
>>> The victims were children as young as 8 and 10 years old. Maybe you
>>> should inform yourself before making a comment.
>>>
>>> ======================================================================
>>>
>>> the reports said football players at Penn State. they don't have 10 year
>>> old
>>> players, blame the reports
>>>
>>>
>> I've been hearing about this story since today's Mike and Mike in the
>> morning. Not one of the reports says football players, they all say
>> kids.
>
>
> and Peter Vescey in the NY Timwes states Sandusky is charged with 40
> counts of abusing boys OVER 15. and doing so in the Penn State showes
>
> so ASSHOLE why would he be charged with that if they were kids 8-10? and
> why would kids be in the Penn State showes
>
> It seems you are the misinformed ASSHOLE
>

Again, you've completely screwed yourself up. The shower incident was
because Sandusky brought a kid from the underpriviledged kids program to the
University.

Don't post anything anymore you're making a fool of yourself.

I strongly suggest you listen to the Kim Jones/Mike Francesca podcast (I
believe that that is the most accurate analysis I've heard/read to date)
then come back and have a dialogue
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/audio-on-demand/mike-francesa-1/

== 7 of 21 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 8 2011 7:14 am
From: Deadmeat


On 11/8/2011 9:47 AM, Ray O'Hara wrote:
> <Deadmeat> wrote in message
> news:4eb8691e$0$21184$c3e8da3$e408f015@news.astraweb.com...
>> On 11/7/2011 6:20 PM, Ray O'Hara wrote:
>>> "Ritchie"<ritchie1965@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:aa2f68bd-143b-425c-b213-a8df87dcf186@h5g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Nov 7, 5:07 pm, "Ray O'Hara"<raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> why didn't one of these football players just punch the guy and say
>>>> "keep
>>>> your paws off me you fucking pervert" these weren't HS students but D1
>>>> football players. , they are rather big dudes.
>>>>
>>>> the most disgusting thing though is how all the reporters are rearing up
>>>> on
>>>> their hind legs and pontificating about a story they know little of.
>>>
>>> The victims were children as young as 8 and 10 years old. Maybe you
>>> should inform yourself before making a comment.
>>>
>>> ======================================================================
>>>
>>> the reports said football players at Penn State. they don't have 10 year
>>> old
>>> players, blame the reports
>>>
>>>
>> I've been hearing about this story since today's Mike and Mike in the
>> morning. Not one of the reports says football players, they all say kids.
>
>
> and Peter Vescey in the NY Timwes states Sandusky is charged with 40 counts
> of abusing boys OVER 15. and doing so in the Penn State showes
>
> so ASSHOLE why would he be charged with that if they were kids 8-10? and why
> would kids be in the Penn State showes
>
> It seems you are the misinformed ASSHOLE
>
>
That hole you're digging keeps getting deeper and deeper, moron.


== 8 of 21 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 8 2011 7:16 am
From: "yoyodog"


"Ray O'Hara" <raymond-ohara@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:j9bfho$4hp$1@dont-email.me...
>
> "Ritchie" <ritchie1965@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:05cc16a3-ece1-4964-8fcf-3d301b558358@h24g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 7, 6:20 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "Ritchie" <ritchie1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:aa2f68bd-143b-425c-b213-a8df87dcf186@h5g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>> On Nov 7, 5:07 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > why didn't one of these football players just punch the guy and say
>> > "keep
>> > your paws off me you fucking pervert" these weren't HS students but D1
>> > football players. , they are rather big dudes.
>>
>> > the most disgusting thing though is how all the reporters are rearing
>> > up
>> > on
>> > their hind legs and pontificating about a story they know little of.
>>
>> The victims were children as young as 8 and 10 years old. Maybe you
>> should inform yourself before making a comment.
>>
>> ======================================================================
>>
>> the reports said football players at Penn State. they don't have 10 year
>> old
>> players, blame the reports
>
> Not one report that I have heard or read has mentioned football
> players! Admit that you spoke without any knowledge, you assumed and
> you were wrong. Be a bigger man.
>
>
> ===============================================================
>
>
> and Peter Vescey in the NY Timwes states Sandusky is charged with 40
> counts of abusing boys OVER 15. and doing so in the Penn State showes
>
> so ASSHOLE why would he be charged with that if they were kids 8-10? and
> why would kids be in the Penn State showes
>
> It seems you are the misinformed ASSHOLE


Let's make it even easier for you then maybe you can post the Peter Vescey
article:

http://tinyurl.com/7qrggs8

Penn State sex abuse scandal investigation will continue
By Nicole Auerbach, USA TODAY

HARRISBURG, Pa. - The Pennsylvania state officials investigating child sex
charges in connection to former Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry
Sandusky are asking for help: They want anyone with information regarding
alleged victims to contact them.

At a news conference Monday, Attorney General Linda Kelly said her office's
grand jury investigation has identified six of the eight victims included in
the investigation. They would like to identify the other two - and hear from
any new victims.

One of the two unknown victims was involved in one of the most disturbing
pieces of the story.

According to the grand jury, a former Penn State graduate assistant said
he'd caught Sandusky subjecting a boy who appeared to be about 10 years old
to anal intercourse in the showers of the Penn State locker room in 2002.

"Today, as we stand here, we encourage that person - who is now likely to be
a young adult - to contact investigators in the attorney general's office,"
Kelly said. "We also encourage anyone else who has information related to
this case to please contact (us).

"We're determined to quickly respond to any new witnesses or any additional
information that may appear."

Kelly and Pennsylvania State Police Commissioner Frank Noonan said the
pattern of sexual abuse, which led Kelly to call Sandusky a "child
predator," means there might be more victims than the eight in the grand
jury report. Noonan said he anticipates he will hear from new victims.

Sandusky met all the alleged victims through his charity organization, the
Second Mile, where he first encountered the boys, then used gifts such as
trips to Penn State football games to maintain contact. Victims' grand jury
testimony described overnight visits at Sandusky's home, where he made
physical contact. Other testimony included stories about showering with
Sandusky that made victims uncomfortable.

One victim's mother reported allegations of sexual abuse to her son's high
school in Clinton County, Pa., in 2009, which banned Sandusky from the
school district. The school reported the allegations to authorities,
prompting the investigation that has been happening for the past two years.

That chain of events stands in stark contrast to Penn State's inaction
following the alleged abuse in the locker room shower in 2002.

The grad assistant reported what he'd seen to football coach Joe Paterno,
who testified that he notified his superior, Penn State athletics director
Tim Curley. Curley and Gary Schultz, the university's senior vice president
for finance and business, met with the grad assistant a week and a half
later.

No further action was taken, and nobody reported the alleged abuse to
authorities.

Curley and Schultz were arraigned Monday for failing to report and also for
perjury related to their grand jury testimony.

"The sexual abuse of a child is a horrific offense that understandably
arouses strong emotions within all of us and can cause scars that last a
lifetime for its victims," Kelly said. "Failing to report sexual abuse of
children is a serious offense and a crime."

Said Noonan: "This is not a case about football. It's not a case about (the)
university. It's a case about children who have had their innocence stolen
from them and the culture that did nothing to stop it or prevent it from
happening to others."

Noonan said this investigation was particularly unusual because there were
multiple incidents from the late 1990s to 2009 - including the 2002 incident
with an adult eyewitness - where people were informed about possible child
abuse but didn't report it to the authorities.

"I don't think I've ever seen something like that before," Noonan said.

Noonan, like Kelly, used the news conference as a platform to reach out to
other potential victims of child abuse. He encouraged victims and anyone
with knowledge of sexual predators to contact the attorney general's office.

Noonan said the attorney general's office and state police are advocates for
victims of abuse, and those victims should feel safe reporting incidents.

"If there are any adults out there who may have knowledge about sexual
predators and crimes they are committing, they (shouldn't) be wondering what
their legal responsibility is," Noonan said. "What I want them to know is as
a human being, they have a responsibility.

"If you have that information, I believe it's your obligation to bring it
forward."

== 9 of 21 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 8 2011 7:23 am
From: "PatsSox"

"Ray O'Hara" <raymond-ohara@hotmail.com> wrote in message ...

> "Ritchie" <ritchie1965@gmail.com> wrote in message.
> On Nov 7, 6:20 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "Ritchie" <ritchie1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:aa2f68bd-143b-425c-b213-a8df87dcf186@h5g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>> On Nov 7, 5:07 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > why didn't one of these football players just punch the guy and say
>> > "keep
>> > your paws off me you fucking pervert" these weren't HS students but D1
>> > football players. , they are rather big dudes.
>>
>> > the most disgusting thing though is how all the reporters are rearing
>> > up
>> > on
>> > their hind legs and pontificating about a story they know little of.
>>
>> The victims were children as young as 8 and 10 years old. Maybe you
>> should inform yourself before making a comment.
>>
>> ======================================================================
>>
>> the reports said football players at Penn State. they don't have 10 year
>> old
>> players, blame the reports
>
> Not one report that I have heard or read has mentioned football
> players! Admit that you spoke without any knowledge, you assumed and
> you were wrong. Be a bigger man.
>
>
> ===============================================================
>
>
> and Peter Vescey in the NY Timwes states Sandusky is charged with 40
> counts of abusing boys OVER 15. and doing so in the Penn State showes
>
> so ASSHOLE why would he be charged with that if they were kids 8-10? and
> why would kids be in the Penn State showes
>
> It seems you are the misinformed ASSHOLE


Peter Vecsey writes for the NY Post.. not the Times. His brother
George works at the Times. George Vecsey wrote in his column... "The
legalities of all this are going to have to play out. We do know that
Sandusky was arrested on 40 counts of abusing boys over 15 years." Over
15 years... as in over a period of 15 years... not 15 years old.
Here's the column...
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/08/sports/ncaafootball/Penn-State-Paterno-College-Football-George-Vecsey.html?_r=1&ref=georgevecsey


== 10 of 21 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 8 2011 7:25 am
From: "PatsSox"

"Ray O'Hara" <raymond-ohara@hotmail.com> wrote in message ...
> "Ritchie" <ritchie1965@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:aa2f68bd-143b-425c-b213-a8df87dcf186@h5g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 7, 5:07 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> why didn't one of these football players just punch the guy and say "keep
>> your paws off me you fucking pervert" these weren't HS students but D1
>> football players. , they are rather big dudes.
>>
>> the most disgusting thing though is how all the reporters are rearing up
>> on
>> their hind legs and pontificating about a story they know little of.
>
> The victims were children as young as 8 and 10 years old. Maybe you
> should inform yourself before making a comment.
>
> ====================================================================
>
>
> and Peter Vescey in the NY Timwes states Sandusky is charged with 40
> counts of abusing boys OVER 15. and doing so in the Penn State showes
>
> so ASSHOLE why would he be charged with that if they were kids 8-10? and
> why would kids be in the Penn State showes
>
> It seems you are the misinformed ASSHOLE
_____________________________


WRONG. It wasn't Peter it was George Vecsey... and he never said
over 15 years of age... he said 'over 15 years'.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/08/sports/ncaafootball/Penn-State-Paterno-College-Football-George-Vecsey.html?_r=1&ref=georgevecsey


== 11 of 21 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 8 2011 7:31 am
From: "yoyodog"


"Ray O'Hara" <raymond-ohara@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:j9bfgp$4d4$1@dont-email.me...
>
> "yoyodog" <connarchNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:j9a3ko$t37$1@news.datemas.de...
>>
>>
>> "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-ohara@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:j99p3t$rti$1@dont-email.me...
>>>
>>> "Ritchie" <ritchie1965@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:aa2f68bd-143b-425c-b213-a8df87dcf186@h5g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Nov 7, 5:07 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> why didn't one of these football players just punch the guy and say
>>>> "keep
>>>> your paws off me you fucking pervert" these weren't HS students but D1
>>>> football players. , they are rather big dudes.
>>>>
>>>> the most disgusting thing though is how all the reporters are rearing
>>>> up on
>>>> their hind legs and pontificating about a story they know little of.
>>>
>>> The victims were children as young as 8 and 10 years old. Maybe you
>>> should inform yourself before making a comment.
>>>
>>> ======================================================================
>>>
>>> the reports said football players at Penn State. they don't have 10 year
>>> old players, blame the reports
>>>
>>
>> That is one lame ass pathetic excuse for not knowing the story. Not a
>> single story mentioned football players, unless you are reading someone
>> else's wrong and pathetic excuse for facts from some blog or something.
>> Just admit you didn't know and move on...
>
>
> it seems I'm right
>
> 40 counts of abusing boys 0VER 15\

How about posting a link, a resource?

I found this quote that appears in several news reports that might explain
your confusion:
"He is charged with sexually abusing eight boys over 15 years."

That quote appears over and over in newspaper articles... Obviously the
sentence states a period of 15 years, the time that Sandusky had contact
with the Second Mile foundation.

== 12 of 21 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 8 2011 7:33 am
From: Deadmeat


On 11/8/2011 9:47 AM, Ray O'Hara wrote:
> <Deadmeat> wrote in message
> news:4eb8691e$0$21184$c3e8da3$e408f015@news.astraweb.com...
>> On 11/7/2011 6:20 PM, Ray O'Hara wrote:
>>> "Ritchie"<ritchie1965@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:aa2f68bd-143b-425c-b213-a8df87dcf186@h5g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Nov 7, 5:07 pm, "Ray O'Hara"<raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> why didn't one of these football players just punch the guy and say
>>>> "keep
>>>> your paws off me you fucking pervert" these weren't HS students but D1
>>>> football players. , they are rather big dudes.
>>>>
>>>> the most disgusting thing though is how all the reporters are rearing up
>>>> on
>>>> their hind legs and pontificating about a story they know little of.
>>>
>>> The victims were children as young as 8 and 10 years old. Maybe you
>>> should inform yourself before making a comment.
>>>
>>> ======================================================================
>>>
>>> the reports said football players at Penn State. they don't have 10 year
>>> old
>>> players, blame the reports
>>>
>>>
>> I've been hearing about this story since today's Mike and Mike in the
>> morning. Not one of the reports says football players, they all say kids.
>
>
> and Peter Vescey in the NY Timwes states Sandusky is charged with 40 counts
> of abusing boys OVER 15. and doing so in the Penn State showes
>
> so ASSHOLE why would he be charged with that if they were kids 8-10? and why
> would kids be in the Penn State showes
>
> It seems you are the misinformed ASSHOLE
>
>
This comes directly from the indictment, Have someone read
it to you:

> As the graduate assistant entered the locker room doors,

he was surprised to find the lights and the showers on.

He then heard rhythmic, slapping sounds. He believed the

sounds to be those of sexual activity. As the graduate assistant

put his sneakers in his locker, he looked in the shower. He saw a
naked boy

... whose age he estimated to be ten years old, with his hands up
against the wall

, being subjected to anal intercourse by a naked Sandusky. The graduate
assistant was shocked

but noticed that both [the victim] and Sandusky saw him. The graduate
assistant left immediately, distraught.


== 13 of 21 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 8 2011 7:41 am
From: Deadmeat


On 11/8/2011 10:23 AM, PatsSox wrote:
> "Ray O'Hara"<raymond-ohara@hotmail.com> wrote in message ...
>
>> "Ritchie"<ritchie1965@gmail.com> wrote in message.
>> On Nov 7, 6:20 pm, "Ray O'Hara"<raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> "Ritchie"<ritchie1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:aa2f68bd-143b-425c-b213-a8df87dcf186@h5g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Nov 7, 5:07 pm, "Ray O'Hara"<raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> why didn't one of these football players just punch the guy and say
>>>> "keep
>>>> your paws off me you fucking pervert" these weren't HS students but D1
>>>> football players. , they are rather big dudes.
>>>
>>>> the most disgusting thing though is how all the reporters are rearing
>>>> up
>>>> on
>>>> their hind legs and pontificating about a story they know little of.
>>>
>>> The victims were children as young as 8 and 10 years old. Maybe you
>>> should inform yourself before making a comment.
>>>
>>> ======================================================================
>>>
>>> the reports said football players at Penn State. they don't have 10 year
>>> old
>>> players, blame the reports
>>
>> Not one report that I have heard or read has mentioned football
>> players! Admit that you spoke without any knowledge, you assumed and
>> you were wrong. Be a bigger man.
>>
>>
>> ===============================================================
>>
>>
>> and Peter Vescey in the NY Timwes states Sandusky is charged with 40
>> counts of abusing boys OVER 15. and doing so in the Penn State showes
>>
>> so ASSHOLE why would he be charged with that if they were kids 8-10? and
>> why would kids be in the Penn State showes
>>
>> It seems you are the misinformed ASSHOLE
>
>
> Peter Vecsey writes for the NY Post.. not the Times. His brother
> George works at the Times. George Vecsey wrote in his column... "The
> legalities of all this are going to have to play out. We do know that
> Sandusky was arrested on 40 counts of abusing boys over 15 years." Over
> 15 years... as in over a period of 15 years... not 15 years old.
> Here's the column...
> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/08/sports/ncaafootball/Penn-State-Paterno-College-Football-George-Vecsey.html?_r=1&ref=georgevecsey
>
>
Wow. He's calling everyone names, and he doesn't have the comprehension
skills of a 15 year old.


== 14 of 21 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 8 2011 8:12 am
From: Deadmeat


On 11/8/2011 10:25 AM, PatsSox wrote:
> "Ray O'Hara"<raymond-ohara@hotmail.com> wrote in message ...
>> "Ritchie"<ritchie1965@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:aa2f68bd-143b-425c-b213-a8df87dcf186@h5g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>> On Nov 7, 5:07 pm, "Ray O'Hara"<raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> why didn't one of these football players just punch the guy and say "keep
>>> your paws off me you fucking pervert" these weren't HS students but D1
>>> football players. , they are rather big dudes.
>>>
>>> the most disgusting thing though is how all the reporters are rearing up
>>> on
>>> their hind legs and pontificating about a story they know little of.
>>
>> The victims were children as young as 8 and 10 years old. Maybe you
>> should inform yourself before making a comment.
>>
>> ====================================================================
>>
>>
>> and Peter Vescey in the NY Timwes states Sandusky is charged with 40
>> counts of abusing boys OVER 15. and doing so in the Penn State showes
>>
>> so ASSHOLE why would he be charged with that if they were kids 8-10? and
>> why would kids be in the Penn State showes
>>
>> It seems you are the misinformed ASSHOLE
> _____________________________
>
>
> WRONG. It wasn't Peter it was George Vecsey... and he never said
> over 15 years of age... he said 'over 15 years'.
> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/08/sports/ncaafootball/Penn-State-Paterno-College-Football-George-Vecsey.html?_r=1&ref=georgevecsey
>
>
So, not only did he get the story wrong, he also got the writer wrong.

Hilarious.


== 15 of 21 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 8 2011 8:38 am
From: "PatsSox"

<Deadmeat> wrote in message ...
> On 11/8/2011 10:25 AM, PatsSox wrote:
>> "Ray O'Hara"<raymond-ohara@hotmail.com> wrote in message ...
>>> "Ritchie"<ritchie1965@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:aa2f68bd-143b-425c-b213-a8df87dcf186@h5g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Nov 7, 5:07 pm, "Ray O'Hara"<raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> why didn't one of these football players just punch the guy and say
>>>> "keep
>>>> your paws off me you fucking pervert" these weren't HS students but D1
>>>> football players. , they are rather big dudes.
>>>>
>>>> the most disgusting thing though is how all the reporters are rearing
>>>> up
>>>> on
>>>> their hind legs and pontificating about a story they know little of.
>>>
>>> The victims were children as young as 8 and 10 years old. Maybe you
>>> should inform yourself before making a comment.
>>>
>>> ====================================================================
>>>
>>>
>>> and Peter Vescey in the NY Timwes states Sandusky is charged with 40
>>> counts of abusing boys OVER 15. and doing so in the Penn State showes
>>>
>>> so ASSHOLE why would he be charged with that if they were kids 8-10? and
>>> why would kids be in the Penn State showes
>>>
>>> It seems you are the misinformed ASSHOLE
>> _____________________________
>>
>>
>> WRONG. It wasn't Peter it was George Vecsey... and he never
>> said
>> over 15 years of age... he said 'over 15 years'.
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/08/sports/ncaafootball/Penn-State-Paterno-College-Football-George-Vecsey.html?_r=1&ref=georgevecsey
>>
>>
> So, not only did he get the story wrong, he also got the writer wrong.
>
> Hilarious.


Hey... he had the right newspaper. :)


== 16 of 21 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 8 2011 11:00 am
From: Ritchie


On Nov 8, 9:49 am, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Ritchie" <ritchie1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:05cc16a3-ece1-4964-8fcf-3d301b558358@h24g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 7, 6:20 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Ritchie" <ritchie1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:aa2f68bd-143b-425c-b213-a8df87dcf186@h5g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> > On Nov 7, 5:07 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > why didn't one of these football players just punch the guy and say
> > > "keep
> > > your paws off me you fucking pervert" these weren't HS students but D1
> > > football players. , they are rather big dudes.
>
> > > the most disgusting thing though is how all the reporters are rearing up
> > > on
> > > their hind legs and pontificating about a story they know little of.
>
> > The victims were children as young as 8 and 10 years old. Maybe you
> > should inform yourself before making a comment.
>
> > ======================================================================
>
> > the reports said football players at Penn State. they don't have 10 year
> > old
> > players, blame the reports
>
> Not one report that I have heard or read has mentioned football
> players! Admit that you spoke without any knowledge, you assumed and
> you were wrong. Be a bigger man.
>
> ===============================================================
>
> and Peter Vescey in the NY Timwes states Sandusky is charged with 40 counts
> of abusing boys OVER 15. and doing so in the Penn State showes
>
> so ASSHOLE why would he be charged with that if they were kids 8-10? and why
> would kids be in the Penn State showes
>
> It seems you are the misinformed ASSHOLE

Again you are wrong and you resort to name calling like a child! Go
fuck your mother again and tell her to educate you!


== 17 of 21 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 8 2011 11:02 am
From: Ritchie


On Nov 8, 10:14 am, Deadmeat <Deadmeat> wrote:
> On 11/8/2011 9:47 AM, Ray O'Hara wrote:
>
>
>
> > <Deadmeat>  wrote in message
> >news:4eb8691e$0$21184$c3e8da3$e408f015@news.astraweb.com...
> >> On 11/7/2011 6:20 PM, Ray O'Hara wrote:
> >>> "Ritchie"<ritchie1...@gmail.com>   wrote in message
> >>>news:aa2f68bd-143b-425c-b213-a8df87dcf186@h5g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> >>> On Nov 7, 5:07 pm, "Ray O'Hara"<raymond-oh...@hotmail.com>   wrote:
> >>>> why didn't one of these football players just punch the guy and say
> >>>> "keep
> >>>> your paws off me you fucking pervert" these weren't HS students but D1
> >>>> football players. , they are rather big dudes.
>
> >>>> the most disgusting thing though is how all the reporters are rearing up
> >>>> on
> >>>> their hind legs and pontificating about a story they know little of.
>
> >>> The victims were children as young as 8 and 10 years old. Maybe you
> >>> should inform yourself before making a comment.
>
> >>> ======================================================================
>
> >>> the reports said football players at Penn State. they don't have 10 year
> >>> old
> >>> players, blame the reports
>
> >> I've been hearing about this story since today's Mike and Mike in the
> >> morning.  Not one of the reports says football players, they all say kids.
>
> > and Peter Vescey in the NY Timwes states Sandusky is charged with 40 counts
> > of abusing boys OVER 15. and doing so in the Penn State showes
>
> > so ASSHOLE why would he be charged with that if they were kids 8-10? and why
> > would kids be in the Penn State showes
>
> > It seems you are the misinformed ASSHOLE
>
> That hole you're digging keeps getting deeper and deeper, moron.

Forget it, the idiot lacks basic comprehension skills.


== 18 of 21 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 8 2011 11:21 am
From: "yoyodog"


"Ritchie" <ritchie1965@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:bab0fde5-2260-492f-b27b-59886bc609d2@w1g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 8, 9:49 am, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "Ritchie" <ritchie1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:05cc16a3-ece1-4964-8fcf-3d301b558358@h24g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>> On Nov 7, 6:20 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > "Ritchie" <ritchie1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >news:aa2f68bd-143b-425c-b213-a8df87dcf186@h5g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>> > On Nov 7, 5:07 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > why didn't one of these football players just punch the guy and say
>> > > "keep
>> > > your paws off me you fucking pervert" these weren't HS students but
>> > > D1
>> > > football players. , they are rather big dudes.
>>
>> > > the most disgusting thing though is how all the reporters are rearing
>> > > up
>> > > on
>> > > their hind legs and pontificating about a story they know little of.
>>
>> > The victims were children as young as 8 and 10 years old. Maybe you
>> > should inform yourself before making a comment.
>>
>> > ======================================================================
>>
>> > the reports said football players at Penn State. they don't have 10
>> > year
>> > old
>> > players, blame the reports
>>
>> Not one report that I have heard or read has mentioned football
>> players! Admit that you spoke without any knowledge, you assumed and
>> you were wrong. Be a bigger man.
>>
>> ===============================================================
>>
>> and Peter Vescey in the NY Timwes states Sandusky is charged with 40
>> counts
>> of abusing boys OVER 15. and doing so in the Penn State showes
>>
>> so ASSHOLE why would he be charged with that if they were kids 8-10? and
>> why
>> would kids be in the Penn State showes
>>
>> It seems you are the misinformed ASSHOLE
>
> Again you are wrong and you resort to name calling like a child! Go
> fuck your mother again and tell her to educate you!

What I find pathetic is that even IF the abuse was on boys over 15, that Ray
seems to feel like that's not as bad as 10 year olds...

== 19 of 21 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 8 2011 11:25 am
From: "The Inconvenient Truth"

"yoyodog" <connarchNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:j9bvf2$7ee$1@news.datemas.de...
>
>
> "Ritchie" <ritchie1965@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:bab0fde5-2260-492f-b27b-59886bc609d2@w1g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
>> On Nov 8, 9:49 am, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> "Ritchie" <ritchie1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:05cc16a3-ece1-4964-8fcf-3d301b558358@h24g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Nov 7, 6:20 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > "Ritchie" <ritchie1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> >news:aa2f68bd-143b-425c-b213-a8df87dcf186@h5g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>>> > On Nov 7, 5:07 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > > why didn't one of these football players just punch the guy and say
>>> > > "keep
>>> > > your paws off me you fucking pervert" these weren't HS students but
>>> > > D1
>>> > > football players. , they are rather big dudes.
>>>
>>> > > the most disgusting thing though is how all the reporters are
>>> > > rearing up
>>> > > on
>>> > > their hind legs and pontificating about a story they know little of.
>>>
>>> > The victims were children as young as 8 and 10 years old. Maybe you
>>> > should inform yourself before making a comment.
>>>
>>> > ======================================================================
>>>
>>> > the reports said football players at Penn State. they don't have 10
>>> > year
>>> > old
>>> > players, blame the reports
>>>
>>> Not one report that I have heard or read has mentioned football
>>> players! Admit that you spoke without any knowledge, you assumed and
>>> you were wrong. Be a bigger man.
>>>
>>> ===============================================================
>>>
>>> and Peter Vescey in the NY Timwes states Sandusky is charged with 40
>>> counts
>>> of abusing boys OVER 15. and doing so in the Penn State showes
>>>
>>> so ASSHOLE why would he be charged with that if they were kids 8-10? and
>>> why
>>> would kids be in the Penn State showes
>>>
>>> It seems you are the misinformed ASSHOLE
>>
>> Again you are wrong and you resort to name calling like a child! Go
>> fuck your mother again and tell her to educate you!
>
> What I find pathetic is that even IF the abuse was on boys over 15, that
> Ray seems to feel like that's not as bad as 10 year olds...

sez a lot about ray, huh? :-(


== 20 of 21 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 8 2011 2:06 pm
From: nomdeveritas@webtv.net (Tristan daCunha)


Hey PatSawx; Tilly Brady took it up the ass on Sun.
Her bitch Ochocinco too.
Tell us about that perfect season, again!!

== 21 of 21 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 8 2011 2:25 pm
From: "yoyodog"


"The Inconvenient Truth" <doandroidsdream@electricsheep.com> wrote in
message news:j9bvmn$9kc$1@news.albasani.net...
>
> "yoyodog" <connarchNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:j9bvf2$7ee$1@news.datemas.de...
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>>
>> "Ritchie" <ritchie1965@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:bab0fde5-2260-492f-b27b-59886bc609d2@w1g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Nov 8, 9:49 am, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> "Ritchie" <ritchie1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:05cc16a3-ece1-4964-8fcf-3d301b558358@h24g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Nov 7, 6:20 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > "Ritchie" <ritchie1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> >news:aa2f68bd-143b-425c-b213-a8df87dcf186@h5g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>>>> > On Nov 7, 5:07 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > > why didn't one of these football players just punch the guy and say
>>>> > > "keep
>>>> > > your paws off me you fucking pervert" these weren't HS students but
>>>> > > D1
>>>> > > football players. , they are rather big dudes.
>>>>
>>>> > > the most disgusting thing though is how all the reporters are
>>>> > > rearing up
>>>> > > on
>>>> > > their hind legs and pontificating about a story they know little
>>>> > > of.
>>>>
>>>> > The victims were children as young as 8 and 10 years old. Maybe you
>>>> > should inform yourself before making a comment.
>>>>
>>>> > ======================================================================
>>>>
>>>> > the reports said football players at Penn State. they don't have 10
>>>> > year
>>>> > old
>>>> > players, blame the reports
>>>>
>>>> Not one report that I have heard or read has mentioned football
>>>> players! Admit that you spoke without any knowledge, you assumed and
>>>> you were wrong. Be a bigger man.
>>>>
>>>> ===============================================================
>>>>
>>>> and Peter Vescey in the NY Timwes states Sandusky is charged with 40
>>>> counts
>>>> of abusing boys OVER 15. and doing so in the Penn State showes
>>>>
>>>> so ASSHOLE why would he be charged with that if they were kids 8-10?
>>>> and why
>>>> would kids be in the Penn State showes
>>>>
>>>> It seems you are the misinformed ASSHOLE
>>>
>>> Again you are wrong and you resort to name calling like a child! Go
>>> fuck your mother again and tell her to educate you!
>>
>> What I find pathetic is that even IF the abuse was on boys over 15, that
>> Ray seems to feel like that's not as bad as 10 year olds...
>
> sez a lot about ray, huh? :-(
>
Another thing that says a lot (and he says it twice)... "doing so in the
Penn State showes". I'm thinking what the hell is a showe? And then I
realized that chowder in Boston is Chowda. So I guess a shower in Boston
must be a Showe... LOL...


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 8 2011 5:20 pm
From: "mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu"


The monster is named "Ogopogo" in Canada. Here in the US we call it
"Logs".

A man visiting British Columbia's Lake Okanagan last week claims to
have captured video of Ogopogo, Canada's version of the Loch Ness
Monster.

According to a report in the Vancouver Sun, "An Okanagan man has video
he says proves the Ogopogo may be more than just a figment of our
imagination. Richard Huls says he always believed in the possibility
of the monster rumored to be living in Okanagan Lake. Last Thursday,
while visiting a West Kelowna winery, Huls shot video that he believes
proves something does indeed live in the water. 'It was not going with
the waves,' Huls said. 'It was not a wave obviously, just a darker
color. The size and the fact that they were not parallel with the
waves made me think it had to be something else."

http://www.lifeslittlemysteries.com/ogopogo-canadian-lake-monster-video-2158/

mr dude

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 8 2011 6:45 pm
From: mrl


Another great move by BB, goes down the drain.

The Pats are becoming the new Red Sox.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 8 2011 7:11 pm
From: "RävNsfän ®"


"John Good" <jonnybgood@aol.com> wrote in message
news:j9bvag017a3@drn.newsguy.com...
: >...and Flacco was seen pissing in the open end zone of the Heinz Senior
: >Center as an added reminder to Woodley for making his stewpid comment,
: >...when the NFL channel asked him if he thought Joe Flacco could ever
lead
: >the Ravens to a Super Bowl..., and Woodley responded...,"...he (Flacco)
will
: >never beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh during his (Flacco's) lifetime to
get
: >to the SB.
: >
:
: For the record Joe Flacco has not yet made it to the Super Bowl, either
through
: Pittsburgh or any other city. You're free however to save this post for
February
: and re-post it then if you'd like.

For the record, Joe Flacco is closer to a SB at this time, than Woodley is
now or was when he made his under qualified, highly over-opinionated
statement back in June 2011.

First and foremost review LaMoron's exact statement:

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2011/06/steelers-olb-lamarr-woodley-joe-flaccos-ravens-wont-go-to-super-bowl-in-this-lifetime/1

Woodley: Flacco's Ravens won't go to Super Bowl 'in this lifetime'
When asked if Ravens QB Joe Flacco can lead Baltimore to the Super Bowl,
Steelers OLB LaMarr Woodley responded:

"No, not at all because they have to go through one team -- that's the
Pittsburgh Steelers in that AFC championship."

Hello-o-o-o-o LaMarr Woodley, ...Joe Flacco has by both action and deed,
not just once but twice this season walked the walk by going both through
and over Pittsburgh, Big Benji and the Pittsburgh Steelers as a whole.
Certainly feel free to talk the talk every June prior to regular season.
Even if you do watch from the side-lines as the four year QB that you
disrespected out-duels your QB and bitch-slaps your #2 or #6 (whatever)
defense for a second time.

LaMarr Woodley, ...Joe Flaccid the four year QB for rival Baltimore has
bluntly ended your hopes and dreams for a championship defense and SB
repeat, ...where will you be taking your family during the 2011 playoff
season?

"So in order for them to get to the Super Bowl, they have to beat us, and
we're not gonna let that happen once we get that close.

Hello-o-o-o-o LaMarr Woodley, ...it is half-way through the season and
"they" have beaten Pittsburgh twice like an moldy old dust filled rug. Three
times won't be close to being a charm ...in Charm City.

"So that's not gonna happen in this lifetime."

Oh but it will LaMarr Woodley, ...and you will still be on the sideline
talking and talking and talking ...the talk.

So what LaMarr was generally opining about in June of 2011 did not
anticipate the harsh realities of what can transpire when men who play the
game, do in fact "play the game" ...instead of talking about playing the
game.

Additionally, despite the Ravens season sweep of the Steelers which included
the first beat-down in B'more followed several weeks later by a Joe Flaccid
two-minute recipe for making Steelers humble-pie in sPlittsburgh, PeeYeah.

Thanks bad John Good, ...but Joe Flacco decided that he would upstage
Woodley with his play rather than his big fucking mouth. In doing so Joe
Flacco has also eliminated the prospect of a championship going in, through
or any (phucking) where near sPlittsburgh, PeeYeah, in this year of 2011
a.b., (After Baltimore).

While I would personally relish watching Joe Flacco and the Ravens ass_phuck
Benji and the Steelie McBeems' for a third time live in B'more, I have
serious doubts that the Steelers are even capable of giving the Bengals a
game at this point and immediately after playing and losing to the more
physically superior, less age toothy, Baltimore Ravens.

BTW Strickland, 5T3313R5, John Good..., why is it that only after that
opening day ass_kicking in Baltimore did all of you (once) regulars decide
to change your old nicks prior to reposting back to the NG, ...and..., does
this most recent Steelers loss to B'more account for your 2nd new nick of
John Good in less than 10 weeks? Also, should we anticipate similar such
nick changes from Brian, Mike, Ricky McEwen, the noxious sTankee McGaygee,
Gilligan, the Skipper, Thurston & Lovee, the Professor and Maryanne,
...there on Gilligan's Isle, PeeYeah?

~Drew


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