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Today's topics:
* Pats trolls? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/812ab7cc9a8b0678?hl=en
* Who thinks the Jet O will show up? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/a52d6176bbff4e58?hl=en
* Jills getting lit up - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/4aca54cae3e399f2?hl=en
* Why are the Jets OL allowed to hold? - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/cdaccffb9e9991af?hl=en
* Wide Left! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/351c60032d61971f?hl=en
* Santonio Holmes is a punk - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/b17d7da201a50235?hl=en
* Hope the O gets back to... - 5 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/5501f88f02743df6?hl=en
* Mangold - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/d631e5580bbbcaf3?hl=en
* O-Line playing poorly - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/cd558becf35d2287?hl=en
* As usual, Pats getting bogus calls - 6 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/094d0f0e38ef2574?hl=en
* Both of these teams suck. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/9a64bbde4806a5a0?hl=en
* Maybe if the Patriots have 6 more injuries.... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/580d9f8343d0eb2b?hl=en
* Here come the BS calls... Helmet to helmet. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/c50254e19bbf1a40?hl=en
* Patriots vs The Officials - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/a973b7e3d2119b48?hl=en
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TOPIC: Pats trolls?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/812ab7cc9a8b0678?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 13 2011 4:27 pm
From: MuahMan
On Nov 13, 5:43 pm, "JKConey" <jkco...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "MuahMan" wrote in message
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> news:bc626fa0-177f-4a65-a711-db8fd513229d@f29g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
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> On Nov 13, 2:20 pm, Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > On Nov 12, 10:17 pm, MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Nov 12, 8:17 pm, "PatsSox" <Pats...@NErawks.com> wrote:
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> > > > "Tutor" <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote in message...
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> > > > On Nov 11, 5:21 pm, "PatsSox" <Pats...@NErawks.com> wrote:
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> > > > > "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote in message ...
> > > > > > "JKConey" <jkco...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > > > > >news:j9eb2c$m44$1@dont-email.me...
> > > > > >> Unusually quiet considering the upcoming game, no?
> > > > > >> JK Sinrod
> > > > > >>www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com
> > > > > >>www.facebook.com/MyConeyIslandMemories
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> > > > > > I hope it stays that way too. They are afraid...they aren't going
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> > > > > > shout much.
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> > > > > I think we're all in a state of shock! Ssssssh... or you'll wake
> > > > > the assholes. :))
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> > > > How much more intense will it be if the Jets win on Sunday?
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> > > > Perish the thought!
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> > > If the Jets win it will be on some bogus bullshit 80 yard PI with 20
> > > seconds left. The Jets will get the ball on the 1 inch line and run it
> > > in to take a one point lead with 12 seconds left. Oh wait, that
> > > happened already last week.- Hide quoted text -
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> > haha... you still haven't gotten over * * *
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> > no playoff wins without cheating ever since.
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> If the Jets win, it won't be earned one. It will be a gift from the
> officials. The Jets can't beat the Patriots straight up. The Jets have
> no QB.
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> The dope keeps trying to bait, but no one wants to play with a cretin
> like him. Poor Bwian.
They have nothing to say since it's true.
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TOPIC: Who thinks the Jet O will show up?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/a52d6176bbff4e58?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 13 2011 4:59 pm
From: cd
I have virtually no confidence in this offense to do anything.
Schottenheimer serves up an offense that is so balanced that
Bellichick feels no need for any additional fiber in his diet the week
the Pats play the Jets. My feeling is that if the defense doesn't
mall the Pats, the offense will eventually compromise the Jet D by
middle of the third quarter. When the defense does well, players
compliment Rex, Pettine, Sutton, and it keeps going, but I get the
feeling the offense is exclusively Schotty. I wish we had a coaching
staff on offense as flexible and dynamic as that on D.
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TOPIC: Jills getting lit up
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/4aca54cae3e399f2?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 13 2011 5:16 pm
From: Deadmeat
On 11/13/2011 5:47 PM, JKConey wrote:
> "Ray O'Hara" wrote in message news:j9p3fs$akg$1@dont-email.me...
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> The Jills are making Romo look like Johnny U.
> it's looking like tonights winner will have 1st place to themselves,
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> Ray I didn't see your apology for being wrong on the 15 year olds vs 15
> years error you ranted about last week?
>
He'll never admit he was wrong.
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TOPIC: Why are the Jets OL allowed to hold?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/cdaccffb9e9991af?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 13 2011 5:38 pm
From: MuahMan
Why do the Jets OL have full immunity from holding penalties? They
hold on every play but never get a flag.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 13 2011 6:32 pm
From: Tutor
On Nov 13, 8:38 pm, MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why do the Jets OL have full immunity from holding penalties? They
> hold on every play but never get a flag.
You're such a marvelous guppie. I've got you trained so well now. Good
boy!
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TOPIC: Wide Left!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/351c60032d61971f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 13 2011 5:38 pm
From: MuahMan
Good Kick Folker!
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TOPIC: Santonio Holmes is a punk
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/b17d7da201a50235?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 13 2011 5:53 pm
From: MuahMan
He should be flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct everytime he does
that hand the ball the ref drop it at his feet bullshit.
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TOPIC: Hope the O gets back to...
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/5501f88f02743df6?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 13 2011 6:11 pm
From: buRford
They're doing the same Offense, that was ineffective earlier in the season.
They need to get back to what's been working lately... rushing Shonn, & play-action.
When they pass a lot, they move the ball, & stall in the redzone.
Also, they're back to replacing Shonn, immediately after he gets a 1st-down, rather than
letting him get going.
Disappointed in D's intensity. Was hoping they'd come out like they did last week.
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 13 2011 6:14 pm
From: MZ
On Nov 13, 9:11 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> They're doing the same Offense, that was ineffective earlier in the season.
> They need to get back to what's been working lately... rushing Shonn, & play-action.
> When they pass a lot, they move the ball, & stall in the redzone.
> Also, they're back to replacing Shonn, immediately after he gets a 1st-down, rather than
> letting him get going.
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> Disappointed in D's intensity. Was hoping they'd come out like they did last week.
Burf, play to the strengths and weaknesses of the opponent. Any team
that doesn't pass a lot against the Pats D doesn't deserve to win.
Passing is the right move today.
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 13 2011 6:35 pm
From: buRford
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:14:56 -0800 (PST), MZ <forums@mdz.no-ip.org> wrote:
>On Nov 13, 9:11 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>> They're doing the same Offense, that was ineffective earlier in the season.
>> They need to get back to what's been working lately... rushing Shonn, & play-action.
>> When they pass a lot, they move the ball, & stall in the redzone.
>> Also, they're back to replacing Shonn, immediately after he gets a 1st-down, rather than
>> letting him get going.
>>
>> Disappointed in D's intensity. Was hoping they'd come out like they did last week.
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>Burf, play to the strengths and weaknesses of the opponent. Any team
>that doesn't pass a lot against the Pats D doesn't deserve to win.
>Passing is the right move today.
In this case you're wrong, Mark.
They never score when they run the O this way... and the OL gets shaky after a while, and
Sanchez gets antsy. They never play well, when pass is the first-option, even against a
suspect 2ndary. You'll also notice that even though they're passing, they haven't tried
to stretch the field yet... another symptom of this ineffective strategy.
They need to do play-action, and so far, the Pats haven't stopped Greene... so, why run an
ineffective O?
Fortunately, for you guys, they're back to killing drives by removing Greene.
The Jets need to do what they do best, and make the Pats stop them.
Then, the passingwill open up for them, as it always does.
That's the way the Jets win games, not passing.
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 13 2011 6:45 pm
From: buRford
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:35:19 -0500, buRford <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:14:56 -0800 (PST), MZ <forums@mdz.no-ip.org> wrote:
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>>On Nov 13, 9:11 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>>> They're doing the same Offense, that was ineffective earlier in the season.
>>> They need to get back to what's been working lately... rushing Shonn, & play-action.
>>> When they pass a lot, they move the ball, & stall in the redzone.
>>> Also, they're back to replacing Shonn, immediately after he gets a 1st-down, rather than
>>> letting him get going.
>>>
>>> Disappointed in D's intensity. Was hoping they'd come out like they did last week.
>>
>>Burf, play to the strengths and weaknesses of the opponent. Any team
>>that doesn't pass a lot against the Pats D doesn't deserve to win.
>>Passing is the right move today.
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>In this case you're wrong, Mark.
>They never score when they run the O this way... and the OL gets shaky after a while, and
>Sanchez gets antsy. They never play well, when pass is the first-option, even against a
>suspect 2ndary. You'll also notice that even though they're passing, they haven't tried
>to stretch the field yet... another symptom of this ineffective strategy.
>They need to do play-action, and so far, the Pats haven't stopped Greene... so, why run an
>ineffective O?
>Fortunately, for you guys, they're back to killing drives by removing Greene.
>The Jets need to do what they do best, and make the Pats stop them.
>Then, the passingwill open up for them, as it always does.
>That's the way the Jets win games, not passing.
You see, another drive.
Shonn rushes, they take him out, and the drive stalls.
And the OL can't block the Pats, a sack, & a punt.
It's the same thing all the time, and the Jets O is making the Pats D look effective.
That's not how the Jets win games. That's what they were doing during their 3-game losing
streak. And Sanchez gets beaten up.
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 13 2011 6:55 pm
From: MZ
On Nov 13, 9:35 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:14:56 -0800 (PST), MZ <for...@mdz.no-ip.org> wrote:
> >On Nov 13, 9:11 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> >> They're doing the same Offense, that was ineffective earlier in the season.
> >> They need to get back to what's been working lately... rushing Shonn, & play-action.
> >> When they pass a lot, they move the ball, & stall in the redzone.
> >> Also, they're back to replacing Shonn, immediately after he gets a 1st-down, rather than
> >> letting him get going.
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> >> Disappointed in D's intensity. Was hoping they'd come out like they did last week.
>
> >Burf, play to the strengths and weaknesses of the opponent. Any team
> >that doesn't pass a lot against the Pats D doesn't deserve to win.
> >Passing is the right move today.
>
> In this case you're wrong, Mark.
> They never score when they run the O this way... and the OL gets shaky after a while, and
> Sanchez gets antsy. They never play well, when pass is the first-option, even against a
> suspect 2ndary.
Burf, it's not "suspect". They've run out of players. In a few
minutes, they'll be playing WRs back there. No, seriously, they ran
out of defensive backs. Why would you NOT pass against a team that
doesn't have their defensive backs?
The Pats entered 2011 with:
CB McCourty
CB Dowling
CB Bodden
SS Chung
FS Meriweather/Sanders
Presently, not a single one of those players is on the field.
> You'll also notice that even though they're passing, they haven't tried
> to stretch the field yet... another symptom of this ineffective strategy.
> They need to do play-action, and so far, the Pats haven't stopped Greene... so, why run an
> ineffective O?
Main problem I've seen is the OTs, especially Hunter who's terrible.
With some clever help from the backs and TEs, which probably means
running more tight sets (this spread stuff needs to stop...), the Jets
O should be able to score 2-3 TDs in the second half.
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TOPIC: Mangold
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/d631e5580bbbcaf3?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 13 2011 6:18 pm
From: "Ray O'Hara"
is that his name or a descrription
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TOPIC: O-Line playing poorly
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/cd558becf35d2287?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 13 2011 6:28 pm
From: Tutor
Yuck from MetLife.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 13 2011 6:56 pm
From: "Ray O'Hara"
"Tutor" <dcat4434@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:136c3d23-465f-4327-975b-3c1cfa7d0c92@u5g2000vbd.googlegroups.com...
> Yuck from MetLife.
but they are being allowed to hold at will.
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TOPIC: As usual, Pats getting bogus calls
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/094d0f0e38ef2574?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 13 2011 6:17 pm
From: Tutor
The fix is in.
== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 13 2011 6:36 pm
From: buRford
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:17:02 -0800 (PST), Tutor <dcat4434@yahoo.com> wrote:
>The fix is in.
You're not at the game, Tut?
== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 13 2011 6:35 pm
From: MZ
On Nov 13, 9:17 pm, Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The fix is in.
Can't we just make one thread for you and MuahMan to troll each other
in each week? That would make the newsgroup a lot more readable.
== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 13 2011 6:37 pm
From: MZ
On Nov 13, 9:17 pm, Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The fix is in.
LOL how about now? Pats safety was just called for a PF for hitting
his own teammate.
== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 13 2011 6:37 pm
From: buRford
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:36:36 -0500, buRford <buRford@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:17:02 -0800 (PST), Tutor <dcat4434@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>The fix is in.
>
>You're not at the game, Tut?
Never mind... I see yer there.
Hope it gets better ;)
== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 13 2011 6:58 pm
From: "Ray O'Hara"
"MZ" <forums@mdz.no-ip.org> wrote in message
news:cb644f78-1e70-4176-ba29-34a625dd83a9@p16g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 13, 9:17 pm, Tutor <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The fix is in.
LOL how about now? Pats safety was just called for a PF for hitting
his own teammate.
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or Wilfork being blatantly held on the TD
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TOPIC: Both of these teams suck.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/9a64bbde4806a5a0?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 13 2011 6:46 pm
From: MuahMan
It's the Suck Bowl.
Whoever sucks less will win it.
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TOPIC: Maybe if the Patriots have 6 more injuries....
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/580d9f8343d0eb2b?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 13 2011 6:48 pm
From: MuahMan
On top of the first 7, the Jets will be able to score?
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TOPIC: Here come the BS calls... Helmet to helmet.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/c50254e19bbf1a40?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 13 2011 6:37 pm
From: MuahMan
Apparently if the Patriots defender hits another Patriots defender
it's a penalty on the Patriots.
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TOPIC: Patriots vs The Officials
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-jets/t/a973b7e3d2119b48?hl=en
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Date: Sun, Nov 13 2011 7:01 pm
From: MuahMan
The officials have a small lead.
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